WILDEST SHOW EVER?! HEATED Debate With SUPER Woke Liberal Feminist LA Girls?! | Dating Talk #213

Date: 2024-11-18
Duration: 10h 19m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_02Toni J(guest)
SPEAKER_03Andrea Johnson(guest)
SPEAKER_05Mary Grace(guest)
SPEAKER_06Eric Hutchins(guest)
SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_08Sinead Barrett(guest)
SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_12Unknown Female(guest)
SPEAKER_13Tira Hos / Hannah Recard(guest)
SPEAKER_14Kayla Hardy(guest)

Key Moments

00:00:09
QuoteBrian Atlas opening announcement.

welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast

00:04:11
IntroTira Hos intro: 23, Ohio, mental health advocate/waitress.

hi I am Tira hos 23 years old from Ohio mental health Advocate on TikTok also a waitress

00:04:21
IntroHannah Recard intro: actress/model, LA, declines to give age per agent advice.

hi my name is Hannah recard I am an actor by occupation I prefer not to answer my age

00:06:21
IntroAndrea Johnson intro: 34, Southern California, marketing director.

my name is Andrea Johnson I am 34 from Southern California I am a marketing director

00:06:33
IntroMary Grace Langhorn intro: 23, Santa Barbara, surgical assistant.

I am Mary Grace Langhorn 23 from Santa Barbara California surgical assistant

00:07:04
IntroKayla Hardy intro: 25, Malibu, fashion model.

I am Kayla Hardy 25 in Malibu fashion model

00:07:15
IntroToni J intro: 26, LA, singer-songwriter and actress.

my name is Toni J 26 singer songwriter and actress from LA

00:07:26
IntroSinead Barrett intro: 25, Ohio, waitress/barista, nutrition student.

my name is Sinead Barrett waitress and barista two jobs also studying for bachelor in Nutrition

00:07:49
IntroEric Hutchins (ilosophical) intro: 39, Newark NJ/Charlotte NC, construction mgr and content creator.

my name is Eric Hutchins AKA ilosophical YouTube Instagram social commentary full-time construction project manager

00:08:30
IntroAndrew Wilson intro: host of The Crucible, political analyst and satirist.

my name is Andrew Wilson host of The Crucible entertainment Channel YouTube political analyst

00:26:04
QuoteMary Grace describes her last relationship ending due to boyfriend violating criminal restraining order; his mother is threatening to sue her for rent.

she had an active restraining order against him so that was a threat and I didnt know this until I moved so she ended up reporting it to his probation officer

00:30:58
QuoteToni J reveals she is a widow; husband passed away around 2021; first date since widowhood was the day before this episode.

he actually passed away you are a widow then correct yes okay were you married I was

01:34:24
QuoteKayla reads Reddit post about girlfriend who slept with a Tinder hookup while telling the poster she wanted to take it slow.

recently Jess and I ran into a guy... I thought you should know that Jess and I hooked up right after Christmas

02:30:25
ControversySelf-rating round. Panel rates looks 1-10. Andrea insists everyone is a 10. Brian rates himself 10 sarcastically. Approximate ratings: 7 (Tira), 8 (Sinead), 10 (someone), 5 (Brian joke), 9 (Toni), 9 (someone), 7 (someone), 5-6 (Kayla), 8 (Eric?), 5 (Andrew), 10 (Brian sarcastic).

ask everyone to rate their own looks on the scale of one to 10 seven eight ten five nine nine seven five or a six strong eight give myself a five

03:10:12
ControversyMan vs. bear debate. Most women initially chose bear over a random spawned man in the forest. Reasons: fear of assault/rape. Brian and Andrew challenge the statistics.

I said man but I changed my answer to Bear I say pick bear because humans sometimes are unpredictable

03:12:30
QuoteHannah says a man could take away her dignity AND kill her; a bear would only kill her. Justifies picking bear.

a man could potentially take away my dignity and then kill me whereas bear will just kill me

04:34:00
ControversyBrian presents top-20 most dangerous US jobs infographic (94-99.9% male). Argues societal collapse if all men vanished. Hannah argues women are increasingly entering these fields.

top 20 most dangerous us occupations logging workers 95 percent male fishing workers 99.9 percent

09:27:00
ControversyTransgender debate: Hannah says she would allow puberty blockers for child after 2-year consistent request plus doctor recommendation. Brian and Eric argue this is effectively irreversible and parents should just say no.

I would start them if after 2 years still felt the same exact way I would allow them to take a low dose of something

10:17:06
OtherBrian wraps show calling it one of the best panels in a long time. WoW raid outro to streamer ampy.

this is one of the wildest panels it was good really interesting conversation one of the best panels we had in a very long time

Topics Discussed

00:00:07
Announcements & Introductions

Brian announcements (WoW Classic Fresh guild, merch, Discord, Twitch, donations). Guest introductions: name, age, location, occupation. Educational background round. Relationship status round.

00:28:00
React: Eric's Viral Clip (Women & Assertive Men)

Panel reacts to Eric Hutchins' viral clip about women claiming to want assertive men but choosing passive men. Debate on women dressing provocatively vs. modestly. Traditional values vs. modern liberation. Eric argues women's behavior is contradictory to stated preferences.

01:34:24
Reddit: Girlfriend Slept With Tinder Date While "Taking It Slow"

Kayla reads Reddit post: man's girlfriend hooked up with Tinder guy while telling him she wanted to "take it slow" physically. Panel debates pre-exclusivity obligations, moral duty to disclose, and whether the woman's behavior was valid. Andrew argues STD-disclosure analogy; Eric says the man was "green" and naive.

02:30:25
Self-Rating Round (1-10 Looks)

Viewer question asks panel to rate their own looks 1-10. Ratings given (order approximate due to diarization): 7, 8, 10, 5, 9, 9, 7, 5-6, 8, 5 (Andrew), 10 (Brian, sarcastic). Spirals into debate over whether everyone is a 10 (Andrea's position) and rating dictators/celebrities for attraction.

03:10:12
Man vs. Bear Debate

Classic internet debate: if you were alone in a forest, would you rather encounter a random man or a random bear? Most female panelists initially picked bear; reasoning cited: men's unpredictability, fear of assault. Brian and Andrew challenge the statistical reality (% of men who would actually assault). Hannah estimated 40% of men; others 15-20% or 2%. Mary Grace switched to man.

03:40:00
Body Count, Purity, and Double Standards

Extended debate on body count standards for men vs. women. Whether high body count changes a woman psychologically. Double standard discussion: why is male promiscuity more accepted? Debate on women wanting a "redemption arc" at 30 after years of casual sex. Eric argues prior relationships reveal what a woman defines as manhood.

04:34:00
Men in Critical Infrastructure / "What If All Men Disappeared"

Brian pulls up infographic of top 20 most dangerous US occupations (logging 95% male, mining 99.9% male, etc.). Argues society would collapse within weeks if all men disappeared due to male concentration in critical infrastructure. Panel pushes back. Eric and Andrew support the argument. Hannah argues women are increasingly entering these fields.

07:45:00
Age Gap Relationships

Prompted by Kayla's disclosure that her boyfriend is 15 years older. Panel debates whether large age gaps are acceptable. Kayla defends her 3-year relationship with a 40yo (she is 25). Brian challenges the dynamic at ~7:54 ("vulnerable college girl").

08:07:00
Women's Rights Equal to Men?

Panel survey question: do women have equal rights to men? Andrea and Hannah disagreed. Both clarified they meant globally, not specifically USA. Brian challenges them to name a specific US right men have that women don't — neither could name one clearly. Brian raises toplessness in public as a minor asymmetry.

09:27:00
Transgender / Puberty Blockers Debate

Debate on whether trans-identifying children should receive puberty blockers. Hannah says she would allow her 14-year-old to start blockers after 2 years of consistent request + doctor recommendation. Brian and Eric argue blockers are not reversible in meaningful ways and compares to getting a tattoo. Hannah takes back the tattoo comparison. Eric and Brian argue parents should use authority ("because I said so").

Transcript

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05:41:20
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthink like Angelino Jolie steps to him he might be like oh I I was when I
05:41:30
Brian Atlasfilled that out that's what I was under the assumption of so but in terms of like oh no okay here you have I'm trying
05:41:39
Brian Atlasto think okay lizo money status success boom put lizo in the club and then put like a nobody
05:41:50
Brian Atlas21-year-old who lives with her parents and she's not in debt but she she's a barista $18 an
05:41:57
Brian Atlashour all the men in that club who they who they graving to gravitating towards I shouldn't have used Liz though for this no that was a great ex that was
05:42:08
Brian Atlasa great visual it because of gravity I shouldn't have because of gravity I shouldn't have said this well if we're
05:42:15
Brian Atlastalking for when I say gravitate I mean not I I mean um colloquially not lit literally like the gravity because of the
05:42:26
Brian Atlasmass uh you know what I mean yeah was that offensive if we were on a date saw I saw the pun if we were on a date would you have like a sidebar conversation
05:42:37
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwith me about this like Brian that was really offensive don't body shame no no honestly the with with my experience with men uh spefic saying it's okay the
05:42:49
Brian Atlasbody shame P people how [ __ ] dare you you piece of [ __ ] this is really offensive okay sorry go ahead Jesus Christ
05:43:00
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardunbelievable um in my experience with dating men is that with women's bodies a a lot of times it's kind of ingrained that they will make a comment on it and that's not something that necessarily I
05:43:12
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardcan change or fix I can always if it's an offensive remark like truly offensive like targeted I of course will say something but sometimes I have to pick my battles and what I actually want to bring up especially when you're first
05:43:25
Brian Atlasdating someone because you don't want to just like combat with everything that they're saying but you do want to get to know them one one other question okay and then we're going right back to the lizo one though you're not going to
05:43:36
Brian Atlasescape the lizo question question a guy comes to a date with a plastic water bottle are you saying something no like how dare you uh pollute the
05:43:48
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardenvironment you want to see the rainforest burn no I'm not going to comment on their water bottle that's not something they make Gatorade makes water now anyways oh whatever that is okay I don't
05:44:00
Brian Atlasknow I was one time like years a no this was like uh four or five years ago I was on date with a girl and I brought a water bottle not not unlike this to the date
05:44:11
Brian Atlasand she says something about the water bottle you do live in California she must have been like an environmentalist but I brought a water bottle to the date mind you when
05:44:23
Brian AtlasI'm at home I have like a RO system like so I drink from a glass it's convenient to just running out the house let me grab a bottle of water yeah she
05:44:33
Brian Atlasliterally tanks the date because I brought a ball of water tanks it she's like wo you need to watch your plastic consumption sir the day was but that's what I mean
05:44:46
Brian Atlasthat's literally what I mean what we're straight back to what we were talking about earlier not everyone is going to be your cup of tea I think you should let the you should really rethink like letting the arler thing pass to be hon TBH well I I'm very happily involved
05:44:59
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwith someone who doesn't need T that word so it's okay yo wait what's your boyfriend's name like first name I don't want to disclose okay I'll I'm just going to guess it's uh Bartholomew oh my God wait hold on that
05:45:10
Brian Atlasis not that's not his name but that's my nickname for him it's an inside joke but that's [ __ ] crazy wow I it was the
05:45:21
Brian AtlasVenus was a l Mercury Jupiter I don't know Bartholomew is he watching this [ __ ] is he [ __ ] watching this [ __ ]
05:45:30
Brian Atlasbarol you is is he uh did he drive with you down to Santa Barbara no he did not he's you going to see him tonight at like 1:00 a.m. okay okay Bartholomew the
05:45:41
Brian Atlasmoment she steps through the door call her a [ __ ] and I want to see if this is the true test of your guys's relationship yo
05:45:52
Brian Atlasshe steps through the door barthol Bartholomew you have to call her the arser and if she's like oh my God that's so funny and
05:46:03
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardshe that's the and then if she's the one if if she's like cool with it you going to be cool with it he's going to do it he's not going to do it he's already in bed I guarantee you he goes to bed like
05:46:16
Brian Atlasreally early okay text him and be like as soon as I step through once you try once you get your phone you're going to text him and you're going to say Bart b b
05:46:26
Brian Atlasb call me a I made a bet with Brian you have to call me a I don't know this is too contrived at this point just [ __ ] call her a r word when she walks the door and you have to have sex with them
05:46:37
Brian Atlasafterwards and while during sex he has to also call you defin definitely not happening wait Damen can you search up that Reddit Thread about like calling
05:46:47
Brian Atlassomebody an RW like dirty dirt Reddit Dirty Talk [ __ ] okay just Google it just Google it you'll find it um okay lizo sorry I'm sorry oh my God bro the [ __ ] caffeine's getting to
05:47:00
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardme lizo or hot nobody 20-year-old Barista who do the guys pick well you
05:47:13
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardsaid she's 20 so obviously they're going to go for her regard like they like young girls guys like young
05:47:21
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardgirls 21 to make it so she can drink I guess yeah yeah they they'd pick the younger girl like nine times out of 10 I would say can you pull that up Damian do you
05:47:34
Brian Atlashave it Damian did you find the thread or
05:47:40
Brian Atlasdo uh do you I mean is it is it the dirty talk one do you have
05:47:56
Brian Atlaslike oh my God here I'll send it to you I'll send it to you or should I just read it I don't know if we need the red thread okay here I'm going to read something to you guys uh not me but an
05:48:07
Brian Atlasold friend of mine really quiet softspoken polite guy a total gentleman and a graduate student in the liberal arts oh yeah that's okay also pretty
05:48:17
Brian Atlasalso pretty inexperienced tentative and vanilla sexually he's dating this really cool girl for maybe two months she's much much kinkier in bet she floats the
05:48:27
Brian Atlasidea of dirty talk and apparently likes to be objectified even demeaned a bit from time to time he's hesitant but wants to please her and doesn't dismiss the idea outright changes the subject
05:48:40
Brian Atlasand figures that they'll revisit the idea another time anyway they have sex a few days later for the first time since the conversation they're really going at it doggy style and she tells him to talk
05:48:51
Brian Atlasdirty to her he says that he can't think of anything to say so he says nothing and she then repeats the request but the second time she is not [ __ ]
05:49:01
Brian Atlasrequesting but demanding it he comes up with yeah you like that you [ __ ]
05:49:11
Brian Atlas[ __ ] he came up with it all by himself he he's never he's never struck me as one for embellish embellishment so I believe him he said that it was for that
05:49:20
Brian Atlaswas it for the sex that night although they are still together two years on that's love that's that is love that's love you know power to them all
05:49:32
Brian Atlasright that's crazy all right all right um let's see oh uh do you have any thoughts on this one the woman's career money status no does it make her more attractive it it does to a man who
05:49:44
Unknown Femalethinks like a woman you know what I'm saying a lot of guys are they try to compete with women think like them and they think that [ __ ] matters and it really doesn't wait to like say to go off something you said earlier you said like a woman like if she can take care
05:49:55
Eric Hutchinsof her own like that's more attractive to you so doesn't status kind of matter no I said as long as she can take care of herself but she doesn't have you can take care you can take care of yourself working at best by as a as a manager you
05:50:08
Eric Hutchinsdon't have to be auditioning for revolt or some [ __ ] you know what I'm saying like you could just be a regular girl with a regular job like so so there's value in taking care of yourself but high value status
05:50:21
Eric Hutchinsis a little more than that you know what I mean she doesn't have to have a blue check and be trending on I don't care about none of that [ __ ] she's got to be able to take care of herself cuz the real talk the baddest women is the ones that just in the neighborhood like regular like it's not the ones that's on
05:50:34
Kayla HardyTV it's the most beautiful woman I've seen would never a celebrity so that's just me did you also say though that they should split dates so what if the guy makes significantly more and she
05:50:44
Eric Hutchinscan't split dates no no now this the thing right good question me I'll say me and some men I know you don't got to pay for the we
05:50:55
Eric Hutchinsjust want to see an effort like in other words I'm paying for the date you you'll cover the tip or we'll go to like an after hour spot you like I'll get the hookah just show me that you care because I feel like when go on a date I'm paying especially in the beginning
05:51:09
Eric Hutchinswhen I don't know we don't owe each other anything I feel like I'm paying the price of admission to the you show you're paying the price of admission to the Mi show it's it's not about neither one of us we're paying for each other's
05:51:21
Eric Hutchinsenergy so who are you to or who am I to say what's what in the early beginning but if I'm balling out of control I'm going take care of it because I got it and it's not that big I'll pay for my homie I don't care like if I had like I'll pay for a Strang I don't care it's
05:51:35
Eric Hutchinsjust money you know what I'm saying and if I I like to see people happy but I just want to see effort on her part you don't have to pay for the date but show me that you care something or pick up something for me I thought of you I I brought you like one girl brought a
05:51:47
Eric Hutchinshookah to me one time so it's like just show that you care show some type of gesture you don't have to cover the whole thing but don't just show up and be cute all the time like do something I'm also curious too like what if the
05:51:59
Eric Hutchinsguy was struggling should the woman pick up after his well if you're struggling you shouldn't go to a place where money is required you know there's Parks there's museums you know be creative you
05:52:11
Eric Hutchinscan cook you can have a picnic in a park you know use your creativity because if you don't have no money you don't need to be inviting women out to date you can invite them to meet you can do a little ice breaker but I'm not going to invite
05:52:23
Eric Hutchinsa woman to a date and I don't have no money that's just
05:52:29
Toni Jstupid anybody else like think guys would pick lizo just curious anybody lizo some dudes would you can just say come
05:52:38
Toni Jon I I mean my opinion some guys would there are some guys that would pick lizo because of her status and money that's
05:52:48
Toni Jjust a fact because what else are you picking lizo for like like let's be honest so wasn't she dating an NFL athlete as well yeah mhm so someone of
05:53:01
Eric Hutchinsher own caliber May pick her too maybe like a front that was mad funny there's so many jokes that could be made from but I'm going let that slide cuz you you said the NFL play as her caliber I I can
05:53:11
UnknownI can go so many places with that shout out to lizo hey would you would you hit hit how what do you mean how it's like not Hunter would you would you
05:53:22
Eric Hutchinssmash lizard yes no but I would only because I probably get a bag out of her like I I'll bang the bag out of her but like out of out of Interest no she's I'm I don't like big girls you don't like big women no I'm not into big girls okay
05:53:35
Eric Hutchinsyou got to at least be shapely like she's not shapely I've seen some big girls that like they they they got hips and stuff like she's shout out to lizo sh so you would have sexual intercourse with lizza for a bag for what's a bag
05:53:48
Eric Hutchinsfor money come on no but is it like a thou what what is I mean like what is like bag that only she got like I'm not going to hit her for no 300 like I'm she going to take me shop like she going to break me off she going take you shopping
05:54:00
Brian Atlasyeah she's going to be sugar where she taking you to wherever I want oh [ __ ] I'm not I'm good I don't know if I could do it to be honest you're a successful
05:54:11
Brian Atlasguy you don't you don't need you would do it I would no for for 2 million you wouldn't hit Li okay I'll do it for two exactly exactly she's not even ugly she just she just not in the best shape I
05:54:23
Brian Atlasdon't know if I could like I'm not like I'm average down there though like I'm kind of average down there so I don't know if I could like get to it though I would love my man hit loo for
05:54:34
Brian AtlasI I don't know if I could get actually girl there's pills for that don't worry no it's not I just don't even know if I could big girl sex is a
05:54:44
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardlittle different than regular girls put anywhere and it would for me sing she singing while we're having sex yeah a th% a shoulder elbow any any wet crease you can find
05:54:56
Toni Jlike no I'm straight it's like you on a love seat or some [ __ ] I for 2 mil that's fair 100,000 [ __ ] 50 B that's crazy but so that that's is that
05:55:07
Toni Jmasculine or what what kind of no this this is hypothetical it's not masculine it's not it's not it's giv real that's why and it's also hypothetical a little confused I'm just sitting sounds
05:55:20
Eric Hutchinsconfused let's give her a round of applause she got some points on the board Point she she made she she got some points on the board shout out to you but like it's hypothetical in real reality I don't even want to I I just say in reality what I would do I don't
05:55:33
Brian Atlaseven care about a woman's money in reality Okay so hypothetical baby there you go fair fair enough uh yeah I uh yeah I don't really care about like the the career money status to be honest
05:55:45
Eric Hutchinsthough doesn't yeah I'll date like a barista you know it's like the ti video that came out years ago shorty was on the fries and he changed a life you can have whatever you like like we don't care about that [ __ ] but I don't think a
05:55:58
Eric Hutchinswoman would do that on the other the other foot I think the catch with women is if you're in tip top shape I think women will give you a I've seen women make adjustments for a guy I think that's the
05:56:10
Eric Hutchinsonly X Factor you can get being broke if you broke but you got you built like a tank she'll pay them bills for a little while not forever but she'll definitely say all right let's see what's up what if he's like hung like a rhino that too
05:56:23
Eric Hutchinsbut I think if he in shape because you got to find that out later cuz you might be unattractive and have that so I don't know if that really matters but I think if you in shape women will give you a shot regardless of your
05:56:34
Sinead Barrettincome is that right ladies will good we know we don't even deal with men I'm talking about y'all y y y y would y'all do that I think it's like a preferred preference for someone to be
05:56:45
Eric Hutchinsin shape but like that wouldn't be like the determining factor of it you know put like this let me rephrase it you got a broke guy and you um with nobody and you got a broke guy with a little body I
05:56:59
Eric Hutchinsthink y'all would give him a chance I don't think you're going to just say you're mine but I think you'll say I'll give him the benefit of that would you give him just a chance because he's in shape even though he's not financially where he want to be but he's in like it
05:57:11
Sinead Barrettstill shows that you value yourself and try to be healthy I still think that's a good factor of somebody being in shape you know exactly that's long-term girl go goals that they're working towards yeah 100% uh couple another dating
05:57:24
Brian Atlasquestion going around the table do you think men who care about body count are insecure starting with you I wouldn't
05:57:32
Unknown Femalenecessarily say insecure but when it's a double standard the only time I would call insecurity is the double standard but if there's no double standard then I would say if like what
05:57:46
Unknown Femaledo you mean if there's no double standard like to say if a man has like 20 bodies and then I would say like oh I have 22 and they're like now I'm mad what do you mean like so I feel like
05:57:56
Unknown Femaleif if there's not a double standard then no but if there is like I've [ __ ] this many girls but you couldn't have [ __ ] that then yes that's so wrong in they're insecure yeah well I one of the one of
05:58:08
Brian Atlasthe questions in the do you disagree is not hypocritical for men with high body counts to prefer to date low body count or virgin women uh I think three or four of you circled you disagree so you think
05:58:22
Brian Atlasit is hypocritical uh so that's kind of a different question though so we'll come to that one later uh so it is
05:58:33
Brian Atlasinsecure depends on the person I ask their answer really okay so you're saying essentially you're saying like if the guy also has a low body count and he wants to date a women with a low body count fine I don't find that insecure
05:58:45
Brian Atlasthat's your standard and that's fine but then what about okay the guy with a high body count he wants a girl with a low body count is that insecure yeah wait why because you can go out and do it but your woman couldn't
05:58:57
Unknown Femalego out and do it like your past doesn't matter but for some reason my past matters that's what I mean I feel like that's why are you insecure about my past but I'm secure about yours it's whatever we're going to go on with
05:59:08
Brian Atlaswhatever I'm vowing to be with you I'll I'll let everybody respond before I give my uh response so what do you think our men insecure for caring about a woman's body count if it is hypocritical like in that in that situation just uh I mean
05:59:20
Brian AtlasI'm not so much looking at the hypocritical component I'm more so looking uh are just men whether they have a low body count high body count are they uh inse insecure if they care about a woman's body count that's like a
05:59:33
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardloaded question cuz if they do have a low body count and they want someone who also has a low body count then that's fine I think but if they have well couldn't they I mean I would even be willing to say that in
05:59:44
Unknown Femaleboth scenarios they could both be insecure and they could both not be insecure I would to say to go back then I would say no cuz that might be just standard but to like when we're going on further questions I'm going to probably
05:59:55
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardcontradict a bit I would say it would make me like if they if they were interested in me solely based off of that number and nothing else like or not
06:00:07
Brian Atlasinterested you know depending on so so they liked you but then they found out your body count and for them the body count was too high yeah if that would that be insecure if theirs was
06:00:19
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardsignificantly higher than mine MH I would say that that's insecure and I would say that it's probably if if they had a bad reaction to that in my head what I would be thinking is wow they
06:00:30
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwant a virgin girl because they're so bad in bed that they would be insecure that she's better that would be my first interpretation of instant anger that would be my first interpretation if we
06:00:42
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwere having a nice dinner everything was cool and then they like it's a deal breaker for them yeah and deal breaker yeah and it was a deal breaker that's the only reason that they don't want to pursue you anymore because that yeah I
06:00:54
Andrea Johnsonwould say that in that in that it would be insec I'll let everybody answer on this go ahead yeah I think my answer is pretty similar if um you know someone asks me what my body count is and then there's his
06:01:06
Andrea Johnsonhigher or the same I feel like that's just a sign of insecurity okay all right your thoughts if it's a deal breaker no so uh
06:01:18
Kayla Hardyis a man insecure if he cares about a woman's body count no okay and okay go ahead I feel like it's one of those things where you're damned
06:01:29
Kayla Hardyif you do damned if you don't because either way the number I don't think is going to make them happy no matter what they're just going to get jealous no matter what even though it's
06:01:40
Unknown Femalezero well if it's zero that's talking some people actually not like zero either yeah actually they might not like zero I want to say some people actually don't like I don't know I've never had a guy ask my body count like some people
06:01:52
Unknown Femaledon't like that responsibility of like some people don't like that well I wouldn't ask the guy like that much if yeah that's s like sometimes zero can make someone mad too I think that's what I'm saying yeah it's like damn if you
06:02:05
Brian Atlaswell I think let me I I do want to jump in really quick on this uh you said the zero would make a guy mad it could I'm not saying all men like cuz most men would probably no experience but I have met men that did not want to be with
06:02:17
Brian Atlasvirgins sure I I there's probably men that are like that but I think the men would not like that she's a virgin because they perhaps perceive that as oh
06:02:29
Brian Atlasshe's a virgin like let's say the guy's angle here is he wants to have casual sex like he wants to have sex quickly he doesn't want to wait so he's probably making this assessment of okay she's a virgin I'm going to have to wait 6
06:02:41
Brian Atlasmonths I'm going to have to wait till love whatever it is um I don't think they would really have an issue with it if she was down to [ __ ] immediately like I can't imagine oh oh she's a virgin and
06:02:53
Unknown Femaleshe wants to [ __ ] me once and then that's it I mean assuming that's what he wanted too I can't imag oh see the perspective I've always gotten is that they just didn't want to deal with the annoyance of the woman after they took
06:03:03
Brian Atlastheir virginity that was literally their explanation you know and it's attach so it's likeis women there's a lot of crazy promiscuous women who like I I don't understand this whole like oh she's a
06:03:17
Unknown Femalevirgin she's going to be like stage five Clinger like no I don't think so but like from who I talked to that was their assumption and I'm like I get it like and you're kind of Unforgettable in that person's life for and like it's kind of valid to say like someone with a zero
06:03:29
Brian Atlasbody count that could make someone feel insecure about it too I don't want the responsibility of that just you know sure sure um going around the table your thoughts are men insecure if they care
06:03:38
Sinead Barrettabout the On's body count no okay your answer to this um uh that's a good question I feel like if it's a deciding
06:03:46
Sinead Barrettfactor of dating that person then yeah um yeah and so uh should bodyc matter going around just a yes or no really
06:03:59
Andrea Johnsonquick honestly no I wouldn't say so I would say no but depends on if you're being respons responsible like is that person have a high body count not using condoms or being safe that would change
06:04:11
Brian Atlasmy perspective on I would have to agree with your your answer so uh should matter yeah it shouldn't matter matter okay no let's let's even just grant that no in a perfect world no CDs yeah then
06:04:23
Brian Atlasno no uh so going around the table lot you guys said body count shouldn't matter uh doesn't matter what's your body count
06:04:33
Brian Atlaseight hold on say it again eight four I won't tell that number did you write it in the no I did not uh do you
06:04:42
Brian Atlaswant to give us a range no I do not is it more than a 100 I will not say is it more than a thousand I'm not telling you is it it's over 9,000 you you didn't write it here right
06:04:55
Brian Atlasyou're not going to little be a little trickster I have to look at look for it or whatever then not lying okay wait no that's not me you got
06:05:06
Mary Graceunder 30 wait you said under 50 yeah and then I'm like under 30 I'm pretty sure but over over 10 for sure you said over 20
06:05:17
Mary Gracefor sure yeah over 20 under 30 okay over over 20 under 30 under 50
06:05:26
Kayla Hardyokay yeah sure I put na cuz I don't know um I'm not someone that really like writes down people's names and stuff like I know people do that to keep track
06:05:36
Kayla Hardyso I don't I don't have a GU um let me you put na I think
06:05:43
Sinead Barrettso is that what you wait sorry uh what about you uh four four wow gir uh that's just for me and
06:05:56
Sinead Barrettthe main above I feel like I don't want the whole world to know that number you want to give us a range it's under 10 okay wait then so you forgot not that I forgot I just
06:06:09
Kayla Hardydon't count every single one so I don't know what to I don't know what the number is because wait you don't count every single one no not like off the top of my head
06:06:20
Eric Hutchinsno a range what's your body count hold on bro hey hey how you going to skip me for the other question to come to me for that one I ain't get to answer none of them other ones hey well I let you um
06:06:31
Brian Atlasnow you're back you're back now I'm definitely like under 50 definitely under 50 yeah that's all I got bro I'm under
06:06:42
Eric Hutchins50 I you're kind tall guy right I mean but I like this when I find a good thing I like to keep it around you know what I'm saying I like to keep going back to the well you know what I'm saying so let's start let's start got wet definitely want to go back no desert you
06:06:55
Brian Atlasknow what I'm saying wow yeah yeah I like that but cuz here's the thing right like if your body count was three like you don't just forget the three bodies I could when you
06:07:07
Kayla Hardystart forgetting that's like I feel like that's 20 plus no not that I forget it's just I don't count a lot of them that maybe would count but cuz I've had
06:07:18
Kayla Hardyserious relationships for the past you know eight years so I couldn't guess what mine is because how many serious relationships have you had three three okay so it's at least three yeah that's
06:07:30
Eric Hutchinsfair yeah yeah uh but oh do you that number okay can I answer the body did the body count matter question yeah yeah of course I think I think it does matter
06:07:41
Eric Hutchinsbut I don't ask women for it cuz I'm just like I don't believe you you know what I'm saying so it's like I'm not about to sit here and say oh really just had three like I I don't know you know what I'm saying so I don't even care but do does it matter it does matter I think
06:07:53
Eric Hutchinson a biological level maybe not an emotional level maybe not a political level but I think I've read a study recently where it said when a woman has about two to 10 Partners her ability to
06:08:05
Eric Hutchinsbond with a man decreased by 40% so me personally I think that's true cuz I see women I think the more women have experiences it kind of get hard to cuz they take on the energy of these men but don't men too I want to say is there
06:08:17
Eric Hutchinslike a stud for men I mean I think I think I want to know the other side one side putting their energy all right all right all right I don't think it's an exchange of energy it is but you're
06:08:30
Eric Hutchinsactually receiving the man is actually giving now maybe he's a overg giver but I rather be a overg giver than a over re physically exactly that's what I'm saying you re receiver because you're
06:08:42
Unknown Femaletaking on the energy of the man the man is really giving you his energy so for example may you laugh all you want so feminine energy just doesn't exist I didn't say it don't exist during sex though cuz like women can't transfer
06:08:53
Eric Hutchinstheir energy I'm just saying man if you're being penetrated if you if a man got three women right and he's dealing with all three of them they're becoming more like him if a woman is dealing with three men she's becoming like them it's
06:09:06
Eric Hutchinsa difference between com becoming like them and him becoming like him it's all going to a point women who are promiscuous a lot of times have a lot of mental issues in my in my opinion but I don't even ask same with men same with
06:09:17
Eric Hutchinsmen possibly definitely it's not possibly like it's actually that is a statistic I could tell you possible me personally I don't even ask wom about their body count you know
06:09:29
Eric Hutchinswhat I'm saying but I do think that a woman with multiple bodies I'm more concerned with the type of guy she was with I think the type of guy she was with previously to me personally means more to me because for example she was
06:09:41
Eric Hutchinswith seven good guys and she was with one former criminal that one dude that have way more impact on her than the seven Church boy she dated so to guys getting with
06:09:53
Eric Hutchinsstrippers and stuff oh yeah absolutely I agree you know what I'm saying because you it lowers your cuz you think every woman just this wild sexual crazy demon it's like every woman's not like that but I just feel like biologically I think it affects women more does does it
06:10:05
Unknown Femaleaffect men yes it does I just think it affects women more I want to say I feel like men are able to I mean like women kind of have to learn how to play the game men just kind of do we compartmentalize like we can catch your body and keep it pushing like they've been doing it since young like I had to
06:10:17
Kayla Hardylearn how to like you know turn off the feelings turn men definitely have higher body counts than women subjectively like way way higher you'd be surprised I think it's mechanical more
06:10:30
Eric Hutchinsmechanical for men yeah I think these days women are becoming more I think these days wom we're more Mas yeah I think women now have sex with you and keep it pushing I think now today more I I will
06:10:41
Kayla Hardyconcede to that hell yeah a lot more women are celibate as well because we have this in between of like celibate women and like not celibate they I know a lot of celibate
06:10:52
Eric Hutchinswom know a lot of celibate women yeah they sell a bit all right they sell a little bit depends on how much trying to they got a price not all of them but be surprised who are these wom men come on
06:11:04
Eric Hutchinsman y'all stop back like stop act like you don't know what's going on man who are these group who are these men that'll see you in the woods and just attack you cuz who them who are they I don't know you got a point I don't know
06:11:16
Eric HutchinsI don't know I guess they in they from the same place make believe land exactly they both from the same place Disneyland I don't know but Joe you said you're an actor yeah you're an excellent actor not
06:11:29
Eric Hutchinssaying that you're fake no no no what I'm saying is your decorum in the midst of heated conversations Excell you know what I'm saying so I could I know that you can kill a ro so I'm looking for so
06:11:40
Eric Hutchinsthat's good yeah cuz I had conversation a lot of women they really picking on youting I would say picking on you every time but you handle it though I've been on a lot of panels with even men that can't handle it so the way you was able
06:11:53
Eric Hutchinsto stand in the grace of fire like you going to be a dope actor so that's dope all of yall got pretty good decorums you know pretty good you know what I'm saying the future looks bright cuz I heard some young women with some some some sound mind so you know I'm
06:12:05
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardoptimistic for the future I got a daughter you know I love how the comments though when we first began this were like all these classy women blah blah blah and then it was like these hate comments All way through I hate the trolls man I hate the trolls trolls oh
06:12:18
Eric Hutchinsmy gosh they're very the trolls the commment is could be extreme I deal with the same thing like on my own channel like same I had a show where I had a guy that um he Advocates marriage mhm so all the dudes was mad at me cuz I was like
06:12:31
Eric Hutchinshey I understand cuz there men that just say you know women are terrible yeah and I think you should get your passport move okay but that there's men that's saying hey I'm a married man I have a successful marriage and I'm speaking
06:12:43
Eric Hutchinstowards people who still want that there's nothing wrong with that and a lot of men got mad at him I'm like how can you get mad at a man who has a wife what else should he speak toward us and he's trying to help other people get he's talking to people who wants what he
06:12:56
Kayla Hardyhas like that that like two worlds can exist I think extremism gets crazy why do you think men don't like women cuz obviously women don't like men for the reasons that like I like women I love women I love wom but you were saying
06:13:07
Eric Hutchinsthat one guy you were saying those guys say they don't no but the but These Guys these YouTube guys and a lot of times you don't know what they look like cuz I you don't know who's behind that screen
06:13:17
Eric Hutchinsthey're all kach Chads yeah so some sometimes you know you I hate to be vain but sometimes you ever seen you like you can hear somebody have attitude or hear their talking points then you actually see them it's like oh I know why you mad you know what I'm saying so it's like a
06:13:29
Eric Hutchinslot of these dudes and these trolls and women they have a lot of personal gripes they don't like themselves they don't like how they look so they can really get off their little Animas in these little chats in these panels so I don't
06:13:40
Unknowneven take the trolls serious like they sorry for the delay Del thank you man thank you Brian and Andrew for all the Insight first
06:13:51
Unknowntime donating 54 in 30 your male virgin here with all the female high expectations should I still look for a wife interesting um damn I almost maybe we
06:14:04
Brian Atlasgot to get you on the Mythic and he sent it in twice bro hold on Yo thank you for the TTS man I really appreciate it uh we'll give you advice here in just a sec but you sent it in twice I'm going
06:14:14
Unknowntyphoon donated $200 thank you Brian and Andrew for all the Insight first time donating 5 4 in male virgin here with all the female
06:14:26
Brian Atlasexpectations is there really any point in trying to continue to find a wife bro you got to find yourself a 411 woman get get yourself a little shorty not an
06:14:36
Brian AtlasAmerica legally a dwarf maybe 49 I think it has to be 410 49 gets you into legal dwarf territory uh you got to date shorter brother and you got to level up all the dimensions look your your Delta
06:14:48
Brian Atlashands your dealt you got to just level up you got to minmax all the dimensions get get your money right get fit get treaded that's what you got to do but yeah it's gonna be tough that's tough
06:15:00
Brian Atlasthat's tough I should maybe he uh shoot me a DM on Instagram and uh it would I might start bringing in oh boy I'm gonna get like a billion [ __ ] I should say said it I might
06:15:12
Brian Atlasoccasionally bring on like a guy here and there you know so uh we'll see but send me a DM on Instagram I'll talk to you thank you Mythic typhoon appreciate it bro oh but he he wants advice to find
06:15:23
Brian Atlasa wife you could become a passport bro dude that's his best bet you could go you there's L America be careful of what yeah be yeah she's she's a passport bro
06:15:34
Andrea JohnsonI'm not you are dating a Colombian wait yes Colombian Colombian woman that doesn't make me a passport bro they go specifically to
06:15:44
Brian Atlaslookes what they go specifically to look for like you I know why you were there I didn't specifically go for that uh so okay and uh I think uh East uh Asia Asia
06:15:57
Brian Atlasis also good for the passport Bros if you want to find uh and they're they tend to be a bit shorter also the Latino women on the shorter side a was crazy
06:16:06
Mary Gracethough I've got a friend she's 49 oh yeah single D but I'm pretty sure what type of height you want though she she taller than her you know oh [ __ ]
06:16:17
Mary Graceokay Mythic typhoon her name's Pam like pam pam that's rough I know no I love her she's my best like only a little better than
06:16:25
Brian AtlasKaren yeah Pamela Pam H Pamela I mean it is like the office though has she found her gym no okay no I'm her gy basically oh okay all right uh let's see here what do
06:16:39
Brian Atlaswe have Mythic typhoon though thank you for the TTS man uh let's see here we were talking about let's see oh the body count thing you you kind of already went into that oh the the hypocritical thing
06:16:51
Brian AtlasM yeah so I actually don't think that there's and this is also a question here I don't think there's anything wrong with a guy who has a high body count
06:17:01
Unknown Femalepreferring to date a woman with a low body count or even virgin I can't actually think of any why that would be like wrong or even hypocritical I guess not that's just their standard cuz I could say the same thing a woman with a
06:17:13
Unknown Femalehigh body count just wants a man with low body count and if that's okay for R but if that's I guess that I mean it's just her standard it is what is yeah but
06:17:24
Brian Atlasnot that I agree but it just is what is cuz I feel like that's just a standard that someone might have I don't think it's hypocritical though like it might be hypocritical if
06:17:35
Brian Atlashe's like these [ __ ] like if he was talking [ __ ] about high body count women and then he was like one sleeping with a bunch of women contributing to said problem and then two he has a high body count himself he's talking [ __ ] about
06:17:48
Brian Atlasthem like he's like oh this behavior is like abhorent blah blah blah blah blah but he's still like continuing to just like have string uh one after the other one night stand one night stand one night stand I can't yourself but if you value your woman that much you need to
06:18:01
Unknown FemaleValue yourself that much and like it's the golden R you learn it when you're 5 years old treat people the way you want to be treated if you're going around [ __ ] everyone I treat people how you want to be treated you know how about
06:18:11
Brian Atlasthis scenario the guy is 30 years old and he's had some long-term relationships he's had some one night stands here his body count is 30 which I
06:18:22
Brian Atlasthink most people would say yeah it's a bit on the high side uh so but he's like well I despite my body count being 30 I don't want to date a woman who has a body count of 30 I'd much rather date a
06:18:34
Brian Atlaswoman who's got a body count of like three or less or a virgin is she younger cuz then that would well that gets into age Gap stuff but like let's just I mean say she's 3 years younger
06:18:46
Brian Atlasthan him cuz I feel like if he's older is inevitable for him like he's going he's going to have more experience he lived on the earth longer he's going to have a higher body count cuz he lived on the earth longer then I feel like that's
06:18:57
Brian Atlasyou're going to have you know as you age you're going to ACW more sexual relationships typically but I I just feel like if that's what you want out of the world you're not going to treat yourself like that what do you mean I I
06:19:10
Brian Atlasactually don't think that's the case at all like a guy who's had sexual experiences even through his own sexual experiences could come to some conclusion or determination that like it seems to be like he he starts noticing
06:19:22
Brian Atlaspatterns and he's like these women who have like body counts similar to mine they are less faithful they are like low they're not as high quality as these
06:19:32
Unknown Femalewomen who happen to have uh low body counts why is it more respectful for a w a man to realize that at 30 but for a woman you already caught 30 B so you're just done for it you know what I'm
06:19:44
Brian Atlassaying like why is it more respectful for a man to do that but a woman couldn't change the same way yeah so a couple things so first I don't think promiscuity is good in either gender like I'm not like 100% same like 100%
06:19:57
Brian Atlasyeah I'm not saying like cuz there is this common I guess uh response to this my position is like well why is it okay for men like D I actually don't think it's good for men or women to be
06:20:08
Brian Atlaspromiscuous I don't think I wouldn't encourage it um I do think there are some differences though uh when it comes
06:20:15
Brian Atlasto this but so sorry I uh your question was um can you repeat your so like say that I'm also like I turned 30 and I'm like wow the men I'm dealing with they're crappy I don't want to sleep
06:20:28
Unknown Femalearound anymore I want to deal with a man that has less body count so I feel like you do that but what does your stance still stay the same same I well it wouldn't be a double double standard in
06:20:38
Brian Atlasso far as a woman who say she racked up a body count of 30 and she's like oh I want to go and date a guy with a low body count yeah or uh is your stand still the same no she can do it I yeah
06:20:51
Brian Atlasno objections whatsoever that's I was wondering I do think there's still a difference though and I think women are uh they tend to care less about body count they seem to be more forgiving of men who have a past of promiscuity and also I think there is a differential
06:21:04
Brian Atlashere so this kind of ties into something else here on this list um so basically any woman has the
06:21:14
Brian Atlascapacity to be a [ __ ] yeah like any woman if she wanted to even if she's unattractive could go like [ __ ] a hundred dudes in a year if she wanted to uh most women probably don't want to do
06:21:26
Brian Atlasthat but like they can so because sex is harder to get for men what you're going to end up HP happen or seeing is is that like women who are just undesirable they
06:21:37
Brian Atlascan still like get sexual access from men but men who are UND undesirable to women they typically don't have that same level of sexual access to women so men who can get laid a lot are just
06:21:49
Brian Atlasgoing to be like kind of across the board deemed as attractive whether that's physically attractive whether they have Riz or game or they can elicit The Click or the vibe because a lot of men can't like elicit because some men
06:22:03
Brian Atlaslike they're nervous on first States like most of you are probably not going to feel the click with a guy who's like kind of like his eye contact is [ __ ] and he's fumbling and his voice is shaking a little bit he's not going to give you
06:22:15
Brian Atlasthe click or the vibe or the chemistry I guarantee you that so um the men that are capable of elicit and these are typically players right like most players they can get you they can get the chemistry from you they can get the
06:22:27
Brian Atlasclick the vibe whatever um because they' done it with a bunch of other women that's how they got sex from all these other women so these men who are like super acve in one metric or the other whether they're good-looking they have
06:22:38
Brian Atlasstatus maybe they're rich whatever it is uh women don't need any of these other components to have sex like a woman could actually be physically unattractive and like [ __ ] a 100 dudes in a
06:22:49
Brian Atlasyear you got a point not going to lie you do have a point yeah so I think the difference here is is that like when it comes to the assessment of a partner men
06:22:59
Brian Atlasare going to look at a woman and like she could have a high body count but like a woman who has a high body count doesn't necessarily correspond with her
06:23:10
Brian Atlasbeing like like surface level attractive and I'm not even talking like I'm not even talking physically attractive but like like a like a terrible [ __ ] woman can like go [ __ ] a hundred dudes but
06:23:21
Brian Atlaslike actually well I can maybe make the same like scumbag dudes can also like get [ __ ] so I don't know um maybe that's not the best argument but in any case like H I know there's like a
06:23:33
Eric Hutchinsstronger Steel Man to my position but I can't it's not coming to my brain I mean women like men who who women women like men who get women they like they that's what attracts them but we don't like when they brag about their body count
06:23:45
Eric Hutchinsespecially if it's high no you probably don't but at the same time it's a million women going to Chris Brown concert knowing danwell he's not picking them and they're still take a thous spend th take a picture with him so they know he has other women they know he's messing with other women and they're
06:23:57
Eric Hutchinsstill drawn to them because that they are kind of turned on by that because sometimes I've heard women say well if nobody else want you why should I so it's kind of like it's kind of like uh it's little it's a little catchy cuz
06:24:09
Eric Hutchinsit's a little funny it can go either way but women really like a man cuz it's a skill set getting women is a skill set getting men is doesn't require anything you just got to be there so to get multiple women I have to be witty I have to be Charis charismatic fake job I got
06:24:22
Eric Hutchinsto you know do a little thing like he said like you don't have to do nothing to get get men men have to have certain attributes to get women which so often times those attributes are attractive to
06:24:32
Brian Atlaswomen yeah like the skill set required from a guy or just like whatever maybe its status or whatever like the the requisite skill set for a man to get laid in order to like get that high body count is like has to be something
06:24:46
Unknown Femalewhereas women you can just show up I want to say I did Circle a question that said that it's it's um easier for girl girls to go on dates than men so or not I didn't
06:24:57
Unknown FemaleCircle it so yeah I guess I agree with that 100% but yeah no it's like like any of you women here
06:25:07
Brian Atlascould like if you wanted to you guys could go have sex with like 100 dudes in the next month and every single woman at this table let me ask you okay let me
06:25:17
Brian Atlasask do you think you could like if you want you wanted to you're like I want to have sex with a 100 men in the next 30 days do you think you could do it I mean if I wanted to if you wanted to I know I
06:25:28
Brian Atlascould but that wouldn't right yeah like the amount of men like if you were to pull men and be like in the next 30 days do you think you can [ __ ] a hundred
06:25:37
Eric Hutchinswomen no I I I Know Rich with some status a regular dude can't do that a regular woman working at Burger King can do that
06:25:47
Brian Atlasthe average person average even I would argue even like a below average looking woman she can do it we've had them on the show Elite men can possibly do that yeah so like the when
06:26:00
Brian Atlasit comes to like the getting laid thing you use a great word there Elite so like like the sexual optionality that even
06:26:10
Brian Atlasthe average or below average woman has is comparable the sexual pull that you have is comparable to as a guy to get that same amount you have to be an aess
06:26:22
Brian Atlascelebrity you have to be a professional athlete like a musici like top tier musician
06:26:29
Eric Hutchinsfamous like s insane status insane something or other and if you look at it even those guys who are famous and have
06:26:40
Eric Hutchinsthe pick of the litter they often just end up dealing with the same girls that somebody else dealt with like you see these girls go from future to thisy so even the elite men are having obviously trouble because if you if you a if
06:26:52
Eric Hutchinsyou're a rich man and you can have any woman in the world and you only seem to get Drake's ex or Chris Brown's X they're even having trouble doing it obviously cuz that doesn't make sense to me if you can have access to the World
06:27:04
Eric Hutchinswhy do you want the ex of somebody who's in your field in your craft so even Elite men who make money still can't just get what they want so they even have it worse than a woman who ain't got nothing go figure so what I was going to
06:27:17
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardsay it's not necessarily that I was kind of thinking about it's not necessarily hypocritical well I mean I think that it's hypocritical but if we're not arguing hypocritical for a high body
06:27:27
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardcount guy to want a low body count girl my issue with it in my experience personally is that that I will have gone on a date with a guy and he will say what's your body
06:27:40
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardcount and I say it and he gets excited and he doesn't get excited because he genuinely cares about me likes my interests anything like that he was like oh you know like in the past it would be
06:27:50
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardlike oh she has like one or two meanwhile he has 20 or 30 and he views it I feel like more as like a purity thing and it's like it kind of gives me personally the ick oh boy okay because
06:28:03
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardbecause because I think that someone you know having a high or low body count I don't think I'm any more or less pure than someone who
06:28:13
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardhas you know a higher or low body count you know well your sexual Purity would be less
06:28:20
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardpure any for me personally I don't want someone I guess who looks at my amount and is like oh well I want to be with her because you know she's less
06:28:33
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardexperienced than me I if a guy previously would have gone and like asked me out and we went on a date and he asked me that question I like immediately shut it down I'm like this isn't going to work because you
06:28:45
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardasked that question and like the very first time that I never felt that was with my current partner so like everyone has different preferences of what they want and maybe it's hypocritical or not hypocritical but I think that there is
06:28:58
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthis kind of like there's so many guys that are getting with girls and they are having these high body counts but then girls
06:29:08
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardlike are expected to be completely pure like like snow and it's kind of like not pure but pure for for me I just don't I guess I
06:29:18
Tira Hos / Hannah Recarddon't understand why like why they would want that because we're men and we we know that other men's energy is still I
06:29:28
Eric HutchinsI even seen a study where if a woman is pregnant like if a woman had unprotected sex with men and N ejacula or whatever that DNA even affects the child you have
06:29:40
Eric Hutchinswith her so it's a yeah look at up like his the DNA of other men are in the child that they have with the woman so it's a huge thing when it when it come to men and women like I said we keep
06:29:52
Eric Hutchinsthese conversations real emotional but scientifically it's just it's just different it's like if you got a cup of water if one person put their finger in it you might take a sit but if I put my finger in it she put her finger in it she put her finger you're not drinking
06:30:04
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthat water I know but if your cup of water that you drink already like has a ton of fingers that have been in it but then you want a new cup of water my I
06:30:15
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardguess my issue I'm the cup you can just wash the cup off the water is the water I guess my issue I guess my issue with it comes down to some girls are fine and
06:30:28
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthey they they like view lower body counts for themselves as like Purity and that's what they want and they want like a guy who has you know who who likes that and
06:30:39
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthat's fine and that's great and all but like I guess I guess what I'm saying is what
06:30:51
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwhat is the motivation for a guy to like I guess look down on a girl for for that when he's done the same exact thing like I know you guys explained it but I still don't necessarily understand I mean cuz
06:31:03
Eric Hutchinscuz some stuff you cuz you're not a man so we're telling you what it is we you we it's not stopping us from bonding with her having sex with multiple men will prevent you from bonding with I've seen it with my own eyes like women who
06:31:16
Eric Hutchinscome out of the sex World come out of the porn life they be crazy they it'd be hard for them to attach themselves they they've desensitized something that is highly valuable a woman's sexuality is
06:31:27
Eric Hutchinsvery powerful that that is her not to limit her to just sex but it's a powerful thing like you can life comes out of you so to just let anybody come in there over and over and over and over and over and over that's going to just
06:31:39
Eric Hutchinsaffect your ability to pair with the man and when I've met women with high body counts they're very argumentative they're very they like to debate they're not the most agreeable women they're
06:31:51
Eric Hutchinshard to bond with because you're literally dealing with the men in them and they are it's like those men are still in them they they they're all over the place they're confused like I said one man with multiple women they're
06:32:02
Eric Hutchinsbecoming more acquiescent to his energy so it's coming to a point it's like the bottom of the pyramid as opposed to the top the top is very the top is comes to a point the bottom is very broad so the woman who has a lot of men she's the
06:32:15
Eric Hutchinsbroad bottom the men that is dealing with multiple women he's the top so they're all getting like me but if you're dealing with multiple men you're just like them a master of a jack of
06:32:26
Kayla HardyTrades is a master of none so it's a difference um if it's easier for women to get laid though then wouldn't they have higher body accounts just because of the they they kind of do though
06:32:37
Eric Hutchinsthat's it says but but the fact that she it' be it'd be easier for them to like but that's why it says a lot about a woman who doesn't do that because if it's easy for you to just get any man and you choose not to do that that says a lot about you as a woman which makes you what more attractive because that
06:32:50
Eric Hutchinsmeans you're showing decorum that means you're showing self-control even a woman who is being respectful in today's time cuz everything about today's time is more advocating for women to be sassy and talk back and all that so to me
06:33:02
Eric Hutchinsbeauty is a respons responsibility not a bargaining chip so but then are but then are men trying to get high body counts like for practice essentially is that I don't think they try to I don't think it's a I don't think we do it on purpose
06:33:13
Eric HutchinsI think it just it happens because as a man some women just give it up easy and a lot of times women be starting that sexual activity I've had women get mad at me cuz I wasn't trying to have sex with them they thought I was weird I'm
06:33:25
Eric Hutchinslike no I really was just trying to get to know you so it's definely men though that are the Chasers that are pursuing that's what I'm saying we're pursuing so oh so exactly so if you're constantly pursued by multiple men and you're able to deny that that says a lot about you
06:33:39
Eric Hutchinsas a woman that means you're ad dope woman cuz you could easily just acquest to that and you're like n I'm so that says more about you a man he at least acquiring some type of skill by getting these type of women he has to be a
06:33:50
Eric Hutchinslittle Charming Choice essentially yeah he has to be a little Charming you can't just be any kind of guy and get women you got to know how to talk you got to know how to dress you got to know how to make a laugh so even though it's not great like he said nobody should be
06:34:02
Eric Hutchinspromiscuous but but there's a skill set that's learned by Men by dealing with multiple women what are women learning by getting multiple men nothing she just lower lowering her her value in my opinion what if she's like crazy
06:34:15
Brian Atlasincredible in bed she's had like so many experiences so she's a porn star be that yeah all right great but nobody wants to marry that though I think really maybe Adam 22 huh wait okay so a couple things
06:34:26
Brian Atlashere um so you you made you raised a couple interesting points previously but like you said okay well what does a woman gain she will you know if she has more sexual experiences higher body count she gets
06:34:38
Brian Atlasbetter in bed I mean my counter to this would be well a woman could have like 20 one night stands with 20 different men but she only slept with them once whereas she could have like maybe one
06:34:49
Brian Atlastwo three long-term partners and she's had sex with like all of them a hundred times and so like I would I would argue that the woman who's had like sex multiple times with like the same one
06:35:00
Brian Atlastwo or three Partners is likely to be better sexually than her like more hyper promiscuous uh I mean even if we like
06:35:11
Brian Atlaspair it off one even if it's like a onet toone so here's the scenario a girl has a boyfriend and she slept with him 100 times and that was her only body versus a woman who slept with a 100 different
06:35:22
Brian Atlasmen one time each I'm still kind of prepared to say that the girl with the boyfriend probably still better in bed it's it's a little gray but in any case I I'm still prepared like that's
06:35:35
Brian Atlasprobably not a scenario that's really going to manifest itself uh as as frequently so what you find in promisc promiscuous women is often times they don't have like prolonged sexual
06:35:46
Brian Atlasexperiences with men they'll have one night stands uh the man honestly is probably not going to give her any feedback in these situations because he doesn't care whereas like a boyfriend might try to guide her might say oh this is what I like this is what I don't like
06:35:57
Brian Atlasin a promiscuous one night stand casual encounter most people are not going to like actually voice like oh hey I like it when you do this or I like it when
06:36:07
Brian Atlasyou do that so I think that's one component there um but then also um even if a woman is bad in bed I'll just grant you like you you dating a virgin and uh
06:36:19
Brian Atlasone I don't even think she would be bad in bed but like if you're the guy in this scenario and he you do have experience as the guy uh if you know how to lead you can have good sex with a girl who's had no
06:36:31
Brian Atlassexual experience I don't know if you can say this same thing about uh like a woman who's like dealing with a n like do you really want to teach a guy how to [ __ ] you probably not it's going to be a turnoff for most women unless you're more dominant or whatever in the bedroom
06:36:44
Brian Atlasbut if if you're a bit more submissive in the bedroom as a woman and the guy's the leader and most of virgin women are probably going to defer to your leadership when it comes to sexual activity because she lacks experience uh and you know how to lead in the bedroom
06:36:56
Brian AtlasI'm pretty sure you can you just tell her what to do here's what I like I think you're G to have a pretty uh Stellar sexual experience with her despite her being a virgin and I want to add this real quick I think the woman's
06:37:09
Eric Hutchinshaving a skill set in sex is a overrated narrative you ain't got to really do [ __ ] like men are the ones who really got to do all the work like what do you really have to do to have good
06:37:19
Eric Hutchinssex a woman just has to be in my opinion receptive a little flexible enthusiastic and just you know have the the the right attitude she don't have to do a lot of
06:37:31
Eric Hutchins[ __ ] you know what I mean so this good sex what does that mean like good sex mean it's it's wet and you're you you can handle it you don't have to do nothing I'm working I have to really know what I'm doing I got to really know how to hit your [ __ ] a woman ain't got
06:37:44
Brian Atlasto do that that riding [ __ ] y'all think y doing we don't give a [ __ ] about that [ __ ] yeah that crazy [ __ ] don't care that crazy [ __ ] I got I got something on this though I 100% agree with you as long as she's like enthusiastic about it
06:37:56
Brian Atlasand she's a good sport and she's openminded that's all it takes and receptive yeah and and on that note there is like better for yall y ain't got to do [ __ ] there there is a I think a differential between like what it
06:38:08
Brian Atlastakes to be good and bad between like a man and a woman and so I think just the like the actual how do I properly
06:38:17
Brian Atlasarticulate this like the actual physical act of sex I think it's typically going to be like in terms of it being pleasurable for the man versus the woman
06:38:27
Brian AtlasI think it's much more like like actually physically intensive and demanding for the man versus the woman in terms of like so for