WILDEST SHOW EVER?! HEATED Debate With SUPER Woke Liberal Feminist LA Girls?! | Dating Talk #213
Date: 2024-11-18
Duration: 10h 19m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_02Toni J(guest)
SPEAKER_03Andrea Johnson(guest)
SPEAKER_05Mary Grace(guest)
SPEAKER_06Eric Hutchins(guest)
SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_08Sinead Barrett(guest)
SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_12Unknown Female(guest)
SPEAKER_13Tira Hos / Hannah Recard(guest)
SPEAKER_14Kayla Hardy(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:09
QuoteBrian Atlas opening announcement.
“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast”
00:04:11
IntroTira Hos intro: 23, Ohio, mental health advocate/waitress.
“hi I am Tira hos 23 years old from Ohio mental health Advocate on TikTok also a waitress”
00:04:21
IntroHannah Recard intro: actress/model, LA, declines to give age per agent advice.
“hi my name is Hannah recard I am an actor by occupation I prefer not to answer my age”
00:06:21
IntroAndrea Johnson intro: 34, Southern California, marketing director.
“my name is Andrea Johnson I am 34 from Southern California I am a marketing director”
00:06:33
IntroMary Grace Langhorn intro: 23, Santa Barbara, surgical assistant.
“I am Mary Grace Langhorn 23 from Santa Barbara California surgical assistant”
00:07:04
IntroKayla Hardy intro: 25, Malibu, fashion model.
“I am Kayla Hardy 25 in Malibu fashion model”
00:07:15
IntroToni J intro: 26, LA, singer-songwriter and actress.
“my name is Toni J 26 singer songwriter and actress from LA”
00:07:26
IntroSinead Barrett intro: 25, Ohio, waitress/barista, nutrition student.
“my name is Sinead Barrett waitress and barista two jobs also studying for bachelor in Nutrition”
00:07:49
IntroEric Hutchins (ilosophical) intro: 39, Newark NJ/Charlotte NC, construction mgr and content creator.
“my name is Eric Hutchins AKA ilosophical YouTube Instagram social commentary full-time construction project manager”
00:08:30
IntroAndrew Wilson intro: host of The Crucible, political analyst and satirist.
“my name is Andrew Wilson host of The Crucible entertainment Channel YouTube political analyst”
00:26:04
QuoteMary Grace describes her last relationship ending due to boyfriend violating criminal restraining order; his mother is threatening to sue her for rent.
“she had an active restraining order against him so that was a threat and I didnt know this until I moved so she ended up reporting it to his probation officer”
00:30:58
QuoteToni J reveals she is a widow; husband passed away around 2021; first date since widowhood was the day before this episode.
“he actually passed away you are a widow then correct yes okay were you married I was”
01:34:24
QuoteKayla reads Reddit post about girlfriend who slept with a Tinder hookup while telling the poster she wanted to take it slow.
“recently Jess and I ran into a guy... I thought you should know that Jess and I hooked up right after Christmas”
02:30:25
ControversySelf-rating round. Panel rates looks 1-10. Andrea insists everyone is a 10. Brian rates himself 10 sarcastically. Approximate ratings: 7 (Tira), 8 (Sinead), 10 (someone), 5 (Brian joke), 9 (Toni), 9 (someone), 7 (someone), 5-6 (Kayla), 8 (Eric?), 5 (Andrew), 10 (Brian sarcastic).
“ask everyone to rate their own looks on the scale of one to 10 seven eight ten five nine nine seven five or a six strong eight give myself a five”
03:10:12
ControversyMan vs. bear debate. Most women initially chose bear over a random spawned man in the forest. Reasons: fear of assault/rape. Brian and Andrew challenge the statistics.
“I said man but I changed my answer to Bear I say pick bear because humans sometimes are unpredictable”
03:12:30
QuoteHannah says a man could take away her dignity AND kill her; a bear would only kill her. Justifies picking bear.
“a man could potentially take away my dignity and then kill me whereas bear will just kill me”
04:34:00
ControversyBrian presents top-20 most dangerous US jobs infographic (94-99.9% male). Argues societal collapse if all men vanished. Hannah argues women are increasingly entering these fields.
“top 20 most dangerous us occupations logging workers 95 percent male fishing workers 99.9 percent”
09:27:00
ControversyTransgender debate: Hannah says she would allow puberty blockers for child after 2-year consistent request plus doctor recommendation. Brian and Eric argue this is effectively irreversible and parents should just say no.
“I would start them if after 2 years still felt the same exact way I would allow them to take a low dose of something”
10:17:06
OtherBrian wraps show calling it one of the best panels in a long time. WoW raid outro to streamer ampy.
“this is one of the wildest panels it was good really interesting conversation one of the best panels we had in a very long time”
Topics Discussed
00:00:07
Announcements & Introductions
Brian announcements (WoW Classic Fresh guild, merch, Discord, Twitch, donations). Guest introductions: name, age, location, occupation. Educational background round. Relationship status round.
00:28:00
React: Eric's Viral Clip (Women & Assertive Men)
Panel reacts to Eric Hutchins' viral clip about women claiming to want assertive men but choosing passive men. Debate on women dressing provocatively vs. modestly. Traditional values vs. modern liberation. Eric argues women's behavior is contradictory to stated preferences.
01:34:24
Reddit: Girlfriend Slept With Tinder Date While "Taking It Slow"
Kayla reads Reddit post: man's girlfriend hooked up with Tinder guy while telling him she wanted to "take it slow" physically. Panel debates pre-exclusivity obligations, moral duty to disclose, and whether the woman's behavior was valid. Andrew argues STD-disclosure analogy; Eric says the man was "green" and naive.
02:30:25
Self-Rating Round (1-10 Looks)
Viewer question asks panel to rate their own looks 1-10. Ratings given (order approximate due to diarization): 7, 8, 10, 5, 9, 9, 7, 5-6, 8, 5 (Andrew), 10 (Brian, sarcastic). Spirals into debate over whether everyone is a 10 (Andrea's position) and rating dictators/celebrities for attraction.
03:10:12
Man vs. Bear Debate
Classic internet debate: if you were alone in a forest, would you rather encounter a random man or a random bear? Most female panelists initially picked bear; reasoning cited: men's unpredictability, fear of assault. Brian and Andrew challenge the statistical reality (% of men who would actually assault). Hannah estimated 40% of men; others 15-20% or 2%. Mary Grace switched to man.
03:40:00
Body Count, Purity, and Double Standards
Extended debate on body count standards for men vs. women. Whether high body count changes a woman psychologically. Double standard discussion: why is male promiscuity more accepted? Debate on women wanting a "redemption arc" at 30 after years of casual sex. Eric argues prior relationships reveal what a woman defines as manhood.
04:34:00
Men in Critical Infrastructure / "What If All Men Disappeared"
Brian pulls up infographic of top 20 most dangerous US occupations (logging 95% male, mining 99.9% male, etc.). Argues society would collapse within weeks if all men disappeared due to male concentration in critical infrastructure. Panel pushes back. Eric and Andrew support the argument. Hannah argues women are increasingly entering these fields.
07:45:00
Age Gap Relationships
Prompted by Kayla's disclosure that her boyfriend is 15 years older. Panel debates whether large age gaps are acceptable. Kayla defends her 3-year relationship with a 40yo (she is 25). Brian challenges the dynamic at ~7:54 ("vulnerable college girl").
08:07:00
Women's Rights Equal to Men?
Panel survey question: do women have equal rights to men? Andrea and Hannah disagreed. Both clarified they meant globally, not specifically USA. Brian challenges them to name a specific US right men have that women don't — neither could name one clearly. Brian raises toplessness in public as a minor asymmetry.
09:27:00
Transgender / Puberty Blockers Debate
Debate on whether trans-identifying children should receive puberty blockers. Hannah says she would allow her 14-year-old to start blockers after 2 years of consistent request + doctor recommendation. Brian and Eric argue blockers are not reversible in meaningful ways and compares to getting a tattoo. Hannah takes back the tattoo comparison. Eric and Brian argue parents should use authority ("because I said so").
Transcript
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02:51:21
Andrea Johnsontradeoff is really worth it but I will say that I don't think that having more baby fat made me look bad it's just that now that I'm older I still don't look my age but I like that I look more my age
02:51:34
Brian Atlasif that makes sense okay um we were going around the table on something it was oh the magic wand do you take it so just to clarify
02:51:49
Mary Graceit because you had mentioned it as well I'm assuming that in the 10 years I do have access to procedural things like
02:51:59
Mary Gracebotox for wrinkles or Advanced longevity science you know you know like freaking science biohacking sort of things
02:52:10
Mary Graceexercise access to I don't know a different routine to work on musculature and composition so is that out of the picture as well well I mean to to be
02:52:20
Brian Atlasfair I I know these procedures are available I guess I just want really quick before I I answer that question uh to the panel here uh a woman at 20 who's
02:52:32
Brian AtlasTaken good care of herself and you know there's not any crazy skin defects or crazy acne or anything just assume
02:52:40
Brian Atlasnormal girl 20 years old um comparing her to herself at for and let's let's um there's different ways we can approach this there's like body and then face
02:52:52
Brian Atlaslet's stick to just face to begin with but I guess we could do body too let's assume she's fit though at 20 and also fit at 40 so there's like perhaps some differences to like the skin right like I mean you start getting like little
02:53:05
Brian Atlasdots and skin differences and stuff whatever but assume the fitness is like pretty comparable at both ages um do you guys think that a 40-year-old woman who
02:53:15
Brian Atlashas Botox and all that [ __ ] is going to be more attractive than the natural herself naturally at 20 somewh sometimes that is possible
02:53:27
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardbecause when you're in your early 20s even late 20s sometimes you're not always taking care of yourself CU you're grinding you're working longer hours like you're just you're just trying harder in life and I feel like once you
02:53:38
Brian Atlasget older I would just make a counter argument and say that like you've comparing 20 to 40 like you're just are you saying that the stress from 20 to 40 there's there's no stress that's
02:53:49
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardaccumulated in a 20e period I'm not saying that what I'm saying is having more time for yourself and not 20y olds or 40y olds are more stressed out 20 20 40y olds it depends it depends on the
02:54:02
Toni J20-year-old and it depends on the 40y old you know how much easier life was when I was 20 versus now at 35 but I differ what's the what's the what's the environment it's a different environment
02:54:15
Unknown Femaleright now the 20-year-olds right now have stressed the hell out and not even that what you could say that like I mean you could ask a 50-year-old man like what's his hardest time he might tell you now and not 20 but then another 50-year-old man might tell you when he
02:54:28
Brian Atlaswas a teenager it was the hardest time of his life and the rest was easy that stress will have already acred the I don't know if mitochondrial damage like the the stress has already had its
02:54:40
Unknown Femaleimpact so you've already acred the like supposed damage that would have occurred from the stress but you know when you go through something the first time and you have to learn the tool so then you have a tool so then you're like oh I can get
02:54:53
Brian Atlasthrough it next time let's assume the stress level is identical how about that just to make things simple the stress level is identical we're making this question really deep like why is this question so
02:55:04
Brian Atlasdeep the next and it's like we're never going to win this here the scenario here's the scenario I would argue I mean I'm I'm granting that the stress level
02:55:12
Brian Atlasis equivalent I genuinely think that the the AC accumul culated and acrude damage from the stress is going to be
02:55:23
Brian Atlasgreater this impact on uh your looks is going to be greater at 40 than what has manifested itself at 20 but I'll just grant that the stress is totally the same whatever so if we're comparing a
02:55:37
Brian Atlas20-year-old woman to her 40-year-old self but the 40-year-old self has access to what's currently available on the market Botox
02:55:49
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwhatever the [ __ ] the other stuff is I don't know which one's more attractive I I would still say maybe the older version cuz you have more confidence you have more life skills
02:55:59
Andrea Johnsonlike when you're younger oh my God sorry lookwise we're never going to 20y Old I think confidence affects your look that's like a really big part of how you
02:56:11
Andrew Wilsonpresent yourself I just wonder why all the beauty products in are anti-aging and none of them are forward aging I've never seen one time a beauty product that was marketed this will age you 10 years I've never I've never seen that
02:56:21
Andrew Wilsonnever seen any marketing of like this will this will give you more wrinkles i' I've literally never seen that in my life it always seems to be the reverse all the beauty products seem to be oh this will make you look younger this
02:56:33
Andrew Wilsonwill make you uh you know um well that's it really just it'll make you look younger right that's how they Market almost all of them I want to I want to
02:56:40
Brian Atlasalmost Grant to you that the 20-year-old is shy and then the 40-year-old is confident I would say honestly to Hon to
02:56:53
Unknown Femalethat dire I don't want to Grant it because I do feel prettier now only because when you get older you start looking back like oh I can't see what I had then so I do feel like actually in 10 years time I would not I would think that I'm prettier now than at 30 does
02:57:06
Andrew Wilsonthat make sense well can I ask one more quick question can can the women at the table just quickly raise their hand if they've ever used an an item called anti-aging
02:57:16
Andrew Wilsoncream some form of anti-aging cream retinol retinol whatever a product that is marketed is anti-aging cream any
02:57:26
Andrea Johnsonproduct marketed is anti-aging cream really I have for sure yeah I'm terrible at skin care none of y'all are going to answer I mean I haven't used
02:57:36
Andrew Wilsoncream but I've gotten Botox if that counts really you don't use any type of skin skin cream which is designed to hide wrinkles eliminate them make crow's
02:57:48
Andrea Johnsonfeet things like that that would be anti-aging cream no I use only natural products like coconut oil and stuff not everybody does I was always taught you don't start using things unless you need I was kind of going to wait till I was
02:58:00
Sinead Barrettolder yeah like when I need it I'll use it but I'm like 20 okay here we we get everybody well I don't understand what's the coconut oil do you're supposed to use that stuff kind of before you actually get the wrinkles as supposed to
02:58:12
Andrew Wilsonum yeah but what does the coconut oil do what is it there moist MTI things it make your skin do it makes your skin look uh better
02:58:20
Tira Hos / Hannah Recarddoes it I mean it's it would be the same youthful appearance does it I think there is a big difference between Anti-aging products and products that
02:58:32
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardtreat other things like acne hyperpigmentation there's there's so many products out there that aren't necessarily anti-aging if we're talking about anti-aging like things that are
02:58:42
Kayla Hardymade for mature skin right this I don't understand well let's let's get everybody answer magic wand do you take the magic wand so yeah I was just going to say you know I know a lot of beautiful 40-year-olds and I think that
02:58:55
Kayla Hardythe one thing they don't like is coming with terms of their age not that they're less attractive I don't think they're less attractive than me but I think it's just it's hard for them to admit that
02:59:05
Kayla Hardyyeah so do you take yes I would take the wand because I would stop at 35 and I feel like people do look better in their 30s just because they have more of their life together they don't party as much
02:59:15
Brian Atlassleep with their makeup on and all that kind of stuff we pick up D has been I can actually but the best things that I've been through I looked better after actually like I've had gloves you're making this extreme
02:59:26
Brian Atlascomparison like these 18-year-old women are meth addicted heroin addicted like the average 18 19yearold is May okay maybe they're binge drinking on the weekend that damage has already been
02:59:40
Brian Atlasaccured and they're going to be looking rough in their 30s because of all the drinking that they did it's not like instantaneous you go out and binge drink one weekend and then you're looking rough as [ __ ] it takes time to acrw that
02:59:53
Brian Atlas[ __ ] and that's why like when you see somebody in their 30s and they partied [ __ ] hard it what the first time they went and partied they didn't start looking rough immediately they're rough in their 30s but then they already got through
03:00:05
Brian Atlasthat and they they got in the healthy lifestyle and now I mean look I'll Grant like if you're living really rough like maybe you're going to get some bags under your eyes and [ __ ] but like I just
03:00:16
Brian AtlasI don't understand this whole oh well the 20-year-old who's partying they're and then that same they partied and then they're like on the health
03:00:27
Brian Atlasgrind they already aced the damage to your liver maybe but not necessarily always on the outside but y'all make it out like oh okay they binge drink twice a week yeah not the
03:00:38
Brian Atlasbest thing to do uh but they they're not like I mean we could use the extreme like what they're doing [ __ ] heroin and meth and they're all methed out and [ __ ] and then they've been so so for 10 years like is that the example we're
03:00:50
Brian Atlasusing or we're using like the average amount of some that somebody parties which I don't think is going to like manifest itself immediately in like immediate outward damage I guess just the things you go through such as College the partying and then when you
03:01:03
Kayla Hardyaccomplish that you kind of like feel better about yourself and so then you get in a about okay 35y old woman who is uh going through a divorce how about
03:01:14
Kayla Hardyher well sometimes people glow up after breakups I mean my horrible relationship I got Cotter after um do you take the wand I would take the wand she takes the wand do you
03:01:25
Brian Atlastake the wand I'm a little bit confused about the wand the wand it it uh it advances your physical appearance just your physical appearance 10 years time you stay there for another 10 years and then you age accordingly uh you don't
03:01:37
Brian Atlasyou're not going to die sooner you're not going to get health problems sooner just your out appearance we advance at 10 years you don't take it who yeah who said they would take the wand real quick every other girl besides her no I said
03:01:50
Andrew Wilsonno and cuz remember I said oh you don't take the one iang my they all take the so here's so here's the deal The Crucible and whatever podcast will actually pay to have cosmetic surgery done to you so that we can add wrinkles
03:02:01
Andrew Wilsonto your face it's completely harmless right conceivable way hang on they they make a mockup model of you in your face right it's 100% safe and they will go in
03:02:13
Andrew Wilsonright and they will definitely age Your Face Forward by 10 years who's who's where's my t I'll pay for it we will raise hands here's Myers have to pay you're going to take it yeah right bro I
03:02:24
Brian Atlasjust I mean I feel like this do we have it in the Discord Damian can you pull up the Discord see if we have the uh yeah they're going to age us like 50 plus years age uh we'll do it we'll wait until she's back from the bathroom why
03:02:37
Brian Atlasdon't we pull up twitch though while we're waiting for her to return guys go to twitch.tv SL whatever drop us a follow and a prime sub that's twitch.tv/ whatever guys it's been 12
03:02:48
Brian Atlasminutes since we last had a prime help can somebody test it out see if I think it's bugged boys can you guys test out and see if a Prime's available also guys drop us follow get us to 95,000 followers on Twitch guys I'm
03:03:00
Brian Atlasgoing to be streaming World of Warcraft on Twitch and then um shout let's pull up the Discord uh we'll we'll pull that up after we go through the stack on Discord guys discord.gg whatever let's get that
03:03:12
Unknown Femalepulled up uh so we'll do that before we go to the age stuff we'll go to the uh go ahead oh okay we'll do yeah no I said no I
03:03:22
Unknown Femalesaid no next why do I look so angry damn that's 10 years or 20 years like that is not 10 years not 10 years
03:03:33
Unknownmy family doesn't look like that you look the same you look the same hey she's right that coconut oil for real all right
03:03:42
Andrea Johnsonnext disgusting wow yikes why what's going on with the upper chest are on I feel like these are not 10 years realistically not 10 years we have coties
03:03:54
Unknown Femaleno horrible that's yeah that's not that is definitely not 10 years time terrible
03:04:02
Unknownit's like like 30 years 30 damn D what the che some mil
03:04:12
Brian Atlasnext oh I was even invol this [ __ ] uh oh oh boy my father look way better than
03:04:22
Brian Atlasthat oh that's it a whole we got Andrew I hat mine hey that's Andrew looking
03:04:30
Brian Atlasgood okay all right of of course I like that all right thank you oh and then uh let's uh oh pull up the other stuff on
03:04:41
Brian AtlasDiscord got the other stuff like from the intro guys discord.gg whatever me and Andrew have a big announcement guys you for you nerds out there okay guys we post BTS on the Discord so you got to join go to the
03:04:54
Brian Atlaswall of whatever show them the bingo card guys if you want to play Bingo during the during the thing and then guys me and Andrew we're [ __ ] teaming up boys for The Horde we are playing why
03:05:06
Brian Atlascan't I find it what the [ __ ] there it is lower the volume a bit pull it back up pull it back up pull it back up hello all right guys the World of
03:05:17
Brian AtlasWarcraft tab go to discord.gg whatever me and Andrew we're we're starting a guild boys we're starting a guild now boys this is going to be serious [ __ ] bro we're going to be clearing
03:05:29
Andrew Wilsonmolten core easy why wait wait why does that say the alliance I can't play with you guys it's Alliance No it's h yeah we're not we we're not doing Alliance wait
03:05:41
Brian Atlaswhat what did you say we're not doing we're not no way if it's Alliance no I said I said hor didn't I oh okay I think yeah we can't can't do Alliance no Alliance yeah we're going to do horde
03:05:53
Brian Atlaswe're going to do horde um so guys if you're interested go to that Discord fill out the only send in one message fill out the application if you want to be part of
03:06:04
Brian Atlasthe the whatever Guild it's going to be and and then The Crucible will be part of the The Guild it's a guild good talk okay
03:06:16
Brian Atlasum what were we we're talking about the rating thing or whatever the magic wand magic wand yeah um oh here final question on this do you think men will
03:06:27
Brian Atlasfind you more attractive in 10 years time as compared to now I don't know I'm not a man
03:06:40
Unknown Femaleuh I don't know uh yes yeah we'll go with yeah okay physically attractive to
03:06:50
Kayla Hardyclarify uh probably not okay probably okay I think so no okay it depends on their age I feel like they always like 10 years younger so so if they're 10
03:07:02
Kayla Hardyyears older than if I'm 35 they're 45 they probably will you know they'll always like younger that's what I'm saying no okay uh
03:07:13
Brian Atlasno okay good talk good talk all right guys uh we're doing something a little new today um I have here um I have them fill out a questionnaire
03:07:26
Brian Atlasit's the first time we've ever done this in addition to all the pre-show notes we have uh it's a lot so we probably won't be able to get to everything uh I have them do a little circle for
03:07:37
Brian Atlasall the all my toxic positions that they disagree with um the first one though that we're going to start with is the bear uh so going around the table would
03:07:48
Unknown Femaleyou rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest um random man random bear like literally like lit we're being so
03:07:59
Unknown Femaleliteral right now I would have to say I don't want to say that though um well what did you write on the I think I left it blank to be honest with you you did leave it blank you I just looked at it and I was you do have to
03:08:11
Unknown Femaleanswer though it's a hard this a hard question and by the way I feel like this is a bad comparison to be completely honest though so like you're not allowed to
03:08:22
Unknown Femalechange your answer what whatever you wrote here you have to say it like are we talking about like any man random okay so it's a random man a random man okay look here's the scenario cuz I was
03:08:33
Unknown Femaletaught to run from a bear I know how toor pinkar it's a pink bear oh then a bear hold on here's the scenario okay I mean it
03:08:43
Brian Atlaswas already kind of written but he said you could have just read it but you randomly spawn in the
03:08:52
Brian Atlasforest you randomly spawn just there okay then two buttons spawn in front of you one of them would spawn a random man the other spawns a random bear so you
03:09:03
Brian Atlasget to pick which one spawns but we can't change your answer I would say a bear no you can't change your answer you got whatever you wrote here you have to say what it so just whatever you wrote in the thing I only say a bear because my family used to go
03:09:16
Brian Atlasbear hunting so I know how to run okay so you picked Bear all right uh I picked bear okay I said depends on the man well it's a random man you don't know that's
03:09:25
Kayla Hardywhy I don't I'm okay I picked bear bear man because I thought he was manly when read it I didn't know that it was going to be some random strong does it
03:09:36
Kayla Hardychange honestly yeah oh so now bear it depends on who it is but yeah no but it's a random so it could be then I don't trust that he's I guess a strong Mony man it could randomly be that wor
03:09:48
Kayla Hardyscary strong no that's good because then he can protect me no no no there it's not a bear and a man he's not protecting you from the bear there's either a man or a
03:09:59
Kayla Hardybear like you're one-on-one with a man or a bear oh I was thinking like just he could protect me in any situation in the woods that's what but yeah I get I get what you're saying it'd be bad to that's a really strange answer anyway like what
03:10:12
Andrew Wilsonif the random man spawned and he's like oh I don't give a [ __ ] about you protect yourself that's a he gives you to the be my chances of surviving in this
03:10:23
Andrew WilsonForest without you greatly increased yeah why didn't I trust my survival instincts leave you here okay I guess I pick bear then uh I said man but I changed my
03:10:34
Brian Atlasanswer to Bear thought we couldn't change answer okay I say man all the way wait so bear bear can I change my answer
03:10:44
Mary Graceyeah World change what want to change it yeah but you said we couldn't so I was sticking with the scripts okay but originally you wrote originally I wrote why did you change CU it might be a grizzly bear and I don't I don't [ __ ]
03:10:56
Mary Gracewith those i' rather [ __ ] with a stranger in the woods than a grizzly bear okay um so those of you uh two questions then
03:11:08
Unknown Femalethose of you who said bear why like why why do you pick the bear and then why don't you pick the men see I would pick the man if I could have the choice of man but since I don't have
03:11:21
Unknown Femalethe choice I pick bear because wait can you tilt your mic down down a little bit yeah there you go go ahead yeah but I I say pick bear cuz like I don't humans sometimes are unpredictable and if it's
03:11:34
Unknown Femalea random person I don't know what they're going to do and a bear like they're just nature they just probably will run at you and you kind of just yeah so just so I understand this correctly essentially I think what
03:11:44
Brian Atlasyou're saying is with the man while the bear could kill you with the man the man could also kill you he could also assault you in other ways is that a fair assessment but the bear might be nice and might kill me okay we'll come back
03:11:56
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardto that what about you why so why do you pick the bear why don't you pick the man I have two answers um why I picked the bear I grew up in rural Arizona so I
03:12:09
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardfeel like I and I I went camping all the time seing lots of bears I feel comfortable in that situation for one and then two you a man a random man and
03:12:20
Tira Hos / Hannah Recarda random bear a man could potentially take away my dignity and then kill me whereas bear will just kill me so I mean or like eat you and let you die slowly
03:12:33
Brian Atlaswell I mean a man could do that too sure sure um how many just but have you encountered a bear before I have yeah mhm how many men have you encountered a lot they're scary hundreds
03:12:45
Brian Atlasof thousands I I deal with all the time for my job yeah but like just walking down the street yeah like you've how many men do you think you've like just walked by I'm not entirely Millions I wouldn't
03:12:56
Brian Atlassay Millions a maybe you were in a classroom start adding these up you were in a mean thousands of L stre certain thousands right it doesn't matter the statistic of how many men I've gone past
03:13:09
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardbecause if we're being quite honest the amount of men who have done horrible things to me is pretty high of those situations what what's the percentage
03:13:19
Brian Atlasum enough for me to not to to not feel safe around Men by myself not to feel safe okay all right before uh we'll get everybody's answers before we get into
03:13:30
Andrea Johnsonuh any of the details so um what about you uh what was the question okay why do you pick the bear okay and why don't you
03:13:40
Andrea Johnsonpick the man I think the bear is more predictable and with the man I have questions why is he alone in the middle of the woods what know um why am I alone with him I just I don't know what he's
03:13:53
Brian Atlasgoing to do I I don't think this is going to change your answer but in the scenario I gave um he randomly spawns yeah so you like click the thing man oh what am I do in here what the [ __ ] mhm
03:14:04
Andrew Wilsonyeah so there's no like there's no this could be a guy who's Saudi Arabian guy who comes in directly from North Korea or this could be a guy who's from Albuquerque New Mexico working the
03:14:16
Brian Atlasnight shift at at Ralph's right so that's that's what you're dealing with there's not like a motivation as to why he's in the woods really okay I still wait actually I do
03:14:26
Brian Atlaswant to uh do you think men who are like in real life who do go into the woods or go on Hikes like do you think like what
03:14:36
Brian Atlaspercentage of those men are like going to that environment with this like Express intent to like go victimize a
03:14:45
Andrea Johnsonwoman I have no idea but I love camping and I car Camp often and I've had times where there was just a random man like
03:14:54
Andrea Johnsonlooking in my car and just like standing in front of my car I I don't trust it so okay something bad happened okay sure um
03:15:04
Mary Graceall right uh what about you I I initially put bear oh you you're switching your answer but I switched it to man okay yeah is that your genuine new position you know I think
03:15:16
Mary Gracephysicality wise I trust myself to be able to defend myself against a man irregardless of the weight or stature versus taking a chance on an animal like
03:15:28
Brian Atlasa wild animal but you're still even if you pick the man like still like you're still assuming that the man poses like a
03:15:38
Kayla Hardya risk essentially no I mean not not intuitively not innately maybe if you okay sure what about you I mean I don't feel safe hiking alone sure
03:15:50
Kayla Hardyso I would not feel safe with a man in the woods because they are the higher percentage of psychopaths as well so that it's also what what percentage of men are
03:16:01
Andrew Wilsonpsychopaths because it's a random man over women it's like in the '90s 90s wait 90% of men are not 90% of men but over women no that's not true
03:16:11
Andrew Wilsonpsychopathy doesn't even exist psychopathy is not in any any American um psychological book any of the dsm's psych psychopathy is not even there other things you would associate
03:16:25
Kayla Hardypsychopathy doesn't even exist let's just grant it though what percentage of men are psychopaths I just saw something that like you walk by a certain amount of psychopaths on the street and the
03:16:36
Kayla Hardypercentage higher is men yeah but what percent I don't know but I mean you could look at serial killer statistics and they're mostly men so you could I
03:16:45
Brian Atlasguess make a percentage of that I mean so if uh I I don't understand though so like let's say the
03:16:55
Brian Atlaspercentage is 0.00001 in women and it's 0.00002 in
03:17:05
Brian Atlasmen I I like that that would be yeah Tech more serial killers which are all psychopath which Super R you know how rare serial killers
03:17:15
Andrew Wilsonare what what percentage of women are also very much um it's it's up in the air how many women are serial killers because they kill stealthily versus overtly so uh especially in nursing
03:17:27
Andrew WilsonHealthcare things like this when they're in positions of caretaker roles that's when women tend to kill the most um men on the other hand they just do it much more violently right yeah I was talking about in the woods technically but so
03:17:39
Brian Atlaswhat give us what's the percentage of serial killers I guess now we could look it up yeah do okay how about this do you think it's less than
03:17:49
Unknown Female1% of what the of the population is less than 1% is a lot so probably maybe I don't know you think so you went to high school right yeah I graduated college
03:18:01
Brian Atlashow big was your high school um like 2,000 people your class or the whole all four years my class my class so there were 8,000 people at your high school yeah I went to a big high school okay so 4 thou uh
03:18:12
Andrew Wilsonso so I give you the clarification Brian real quick yeah roughly one point .2% of adult men in the united states are considered to have clinically significant levels of what are considered Psychopathic traits compared
03:18:23
Andrew Wilsonto 0.7% of adult women however the traits with they which they consider to be Psychopathic um does not actually make
03:18:33
Andrew Wilsonyou a psychopath right so um they're looking at things like um uh hang on let me pull up the traits here it would be things like
03:18:44
Andrew Wilsoncommunication um other things like lack of empathy but these things are lower in men anyway and those things on their own don't actually create the conditionals for any type of uh Borderline
03:18:55
Andrew WilsonPersonality Disorder so hard to say exactly but even by the metric it seems that um well it is true that men would slightly outnumber them this seems like it's a trait problem we're associating
03:19:07
Kayla Hardyit with traits that are more masculine yeah violence yeah but so what can you just what percentage of men do you think are serial killers it's very low I know I shouldn't have
03:19:19
Kayla Hardybrought up the percentage thing I was just saying that they outnumber the woman well so I would feel in the woods with
03:19:30
Toni Jthem okay okay um all right what about you I just think like men are unpredictable and I think unict yeah bear is predictable bear predictable okay and then I don't think
03:19:42
Brian Atlasyou picked bear uh this is a point Andrew's brought up before to those of I think you said predictable you said predictable unpredictable uh just curious so if you walked up to a man and
03:19:54
Brian Atlaspadded him on the head versus walking up to bear and padded the bear on the head maybe a little rough you know a little hard
03:20:06
Andrew Wilsonuh which one do you think is going to react more violently towards you is this the same thing a random man am I saying it yeah random man random
03:20:19
Andrew Wilsonman or random bear if you just walked over to any random guy like right now in Santa Barbara you were just walking down the street and you walked over to some random guy he just patted him on the head versus if you're walking down the street in Santa Barbara and he walked over to a black bear and patted it on it
03:20:32
Andrew Wilsonon the head what do you think the outcome difference would be it's the bear the bear is predictable wait no she picks the bear no I know you pick the bear but if you patted the bear on the head versus patting the random guy on
03:20:44
Andrew Wilsonthe head what do you think the result would be the result difference would be do you think that the bear would oh I don't know if you went over and triy to Pat it on a head perhaps eat your face whereas the man would not
03:20:55
Andrea Johnsonlikely right yeah I mean makes sense but if I'm in the middle of the forest or woods and a bear and a man spawn I'm not going to
03:21:07
Brian AtlasPat either of them on the head yeah but which one would pose a bigger threat if you were to do this obviously bear but that wasn't the
03:21:17
Brian Atlasoriginal question sure but I mean it it helps further kind of articulate the risk factor here but um and then what do you pick I guess or your thoughts on
03:21:27
Toni Jthat I guess your it kind of supports your theory like the questions are like supporting your theory on how like I I
03:21:36
Toni Jthink like a man could do a lot of things he could kill you he could saay it it could be a diff a lot of different things but a bear yes could kill you yes it would be thear can I say one one
03:21:48
Brian Atlasquick question then I'll let you come right in just uh one other follow-up question here um I'm assuming a lot of you guys either directly or implied
03:22:00
Brian Atlasthere's a risk when it comes to the men you're you're fearful of essay with this man alone in the forest um so my question is what percentage of men do
03:22:09
Unknown Femaleyou think would be inclined to victimize you in this way I I don't think they feel inclined I this is going to sound terrible I just feel like some men don't
03:22:21
Unknown Femaleknow that they're even doing it like they genuinely are just so ignorant to what they're doing they're they're in their world they're living in it well this would not be like a a date grape
03:22:31
Brian Atlasscenario yeah I know where there so this is like he would have to like essentially violently assault you in this so we're talking about violently assault because if like say if I'm at a
03:22:43
Unknown Femalebar and like a guy like comes by like touches my ass and he just keeps grabbing he might think that if like I don't turn around and say something that he's just allowed to keep touching me do you know what I'm trying to say like I feel like sometimes they think that they're entitled they
03:22:56
Unknown Femaledon't even realize what they're doing they're sexually assaulting someone but they don't even realize like so I'm not saying like I don't know sometimes I think also men think
03:23:07
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthat it doesn't matter how many NOS they get as long as they get a yes or as long as you stop saying no and that's not the same as a yes or as long as you don't say anything yeah as long as you don't
03:23:19
Unknown Femalesay anything not all men but some men like I'm not saying that all men but like I think a lot of men just genuinely don't know what they're doing and that that that in the harm that they're doing because they're just feeding their own
03:23:30
Brian Atlasego in a way okay so I mean even I suppose granting your expanded definitions of uh you know or granting the definition how your definition
03:23:42
Brian Atlasexcuse me mumbling over my words here granting how you view these certain crimes or whatever uh going ahead and granting that what percentage of men are
03:23:53
Brian Atlasgoing to do that in a given situation then I
03:24:00
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardsuppose I'll say 40% 40% okay um for me it doesn't matter percentage if there's even a 1% possibility I would rather die
03:24:10
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardby a bear than be raped even if it was 1% try to use uh like sorry Sor um essay I would I'd even if it was 1% yeah but you don't think it's
03:24:22
Brian Atlas1% do you I don't know what the percentage what do you think it is of men that would do that that would be capable so it's a it's a random men out of the population random men so what
03:24:34
Brian Atlaspercentage of men in the population do you think would be would do this or would be inclined to doing that in the scenario
03:24:42
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardpresented in that exact scenario I don't know maybe maybe 20 maybe like 15 it's not it's not we'll say 20 we'll say 20 what do you think I don't know
03:24:54
Andrea Johnsonthe percentage but I remember when I was in college reading something that's saying that like one in every four college student females will be aay or
03:25:04
Andrea Johnsonuh something like that so I'm going to say it's maybe 2% I don't know okay before we get into well okay go ahead it's how so 25% for you
03:25:17
Andrea Johnsonyou said one and four so you're going off that so 25% I mean I'm not everyone's in college I don't know I'm I'm just going to say 2% because I have no idea wait 2% yeah 2% is a lot different than one and four it is but in college you're going out you're partying
03:25:30
Mary GraceI'm trying to consider that so I'm just going to say 2% all right 2% all right I'm sorry just to clarify so it's what percentage I feel any given man yeah is
03:25:40
Mary Graceinclined to aggressively act out just 2% okay like 10 or 15 10 or 15 more than 1%
03:25:50
Brian Atlasdefinitely so yeah good well okay more than 1% could be 99% 2% okay and then you're well you didn't pick pair men make me feel safe like not all men but
03:26:00
Brian Atlaslike whoever my other person is as long as they make me feel safe yeah wait so um I'm actually kind of surprised because Andrew we've we've asked this frequently we've had this this is one of
03:26:12
Brian Atlasthe first times we've had such low numbers given uh there those were pretty high numbers well the
03:26:21
Brian Atlasone Andrew a couple of girls said 1% 2% that's low comparatively speaking um but we did get a 40% from you and a 20% from
03:26:31
Unknown Femaleyou I said like 15 or 20 15 or 20 okay um so you said 40% but with the question I was the first to answer did you mean like literally initiate or just like to think about doing stuff like that
03:26:43
Brian Atlasbecause I answered on basically like do men have those thoughts and want and are entitled to do it you think I mean I would still think 40 40% of men want like they're fantasizing
03:26:53
Brian Atlasabout uh essaying women I still think that's pretty high but or being with women they can't have so yeah that's what the conversation wait y' hold on wait that's wait that's a little
03:27:03
Brian Atlasdifferent fantasizing about a woman that they can't have uh don't y'all fantasize about like well that's not I who y'all can't ever have [ __ ] NFL players uh athletes famous musicians
03:27:16
Brian Atlasno you don't you don't have like a celebrity crush not that's [ __ ] [ __ ] y'all it's a part of my disorder literally Anye I don't think it's like are you saying it's like like
03:27:27
Brian Atlasuh mental sa for guys have a sexual fantasy with like a famous woman or something no I thought you were saying they have those thoughts that's it that was all it what do you think what do you what do you think most what do you think
03:27:40
Unknownone of the most common if not the most common sexual fantasy of women is uh know I have no idea that's actually really good argument that's a
03:27:51
Andrew Wilsonfantastic argument I yeah it's it's yeah refering to inels you talking about guys that can't get sex and they violence entitlement to women diting
03:28:02
Andrew Wilsonnobody's answering the question can I jum in what do you think the most common sexual fantasy of a woman is I don't know I a British accent yeah
03:28:13
Brian Atlasdefinitely word dominance Bango I mean yeah no I mean it's no it's much more than think it's much more than that they
03:28:22
Andrew Wilsonhave a grape fantasies that have those more not all I don't like I don't I'm just going to hang on I'm just going to go off the
03:28:34
Andrew Wilsonfacts here all right we'll make sure that we we all get it right uh number 10 Strangers in the Night um nine group
03:28:44
Andrew Wilsonsexs uh um seven laying you out on display for other people to see meaning you're having sex in front of other people six sexually
03:28:53
Andrew Wilsonravaged uh five or I'm sorry four to leave it as a tip and then uh two strap on I'm going in that's pretty brutal
03:29:05
Unknown Femaleright the [ __ ] is this uh and then number one is sa fantasies number one that doesn't mean there was not a single thing I I think you said that I
03:29:16
Andrew Wilsonfantasize about I'm not going to lie same well okay while that could be true I just want you to understand that there's all sorts of things which I'm sure would be ATT attributed to the
03:29:27
Andrew Wilsonmajority of men that perhaps could not be attributed to me here's a really good one I have blue eyes that's really really really rare in men right but that has nothing to do with how common brown eyes are right so even though I don't
03:29:40
Andrew Wilsonfit the mold it doesn't really mean anything I'm not saying anybody here has fantasies of being sa I'm just saying saying that it's the number one
03:29:49
Eric Hutchinsfantasy well is what is I guess you something on this yeah this is a a this was a lot um for one he just said um
03:29:59
Eric Hutchinsthat was a list of women's fantasies top 10 top 10 reported by women yeah now remember previously how I told you that women say something and do something else now if you ask the common
03:30:11
Eric Hutchinswomen they just said that's their biggest fear but you just did a poll that that's their biggest fantasy so you see how women can say one thing and think and do something totally different so I just want to say that two it's very
03:30:23
Eric Hutchinsalarming that women would rather take a chance with a wild animal who is extremely unpredictable over a man who can possibly not do none of those things
03:30:34
Eric Hutchinsthat there is a potential with a man there is no potential with the bear none he's going to kill you or kill you later so for women to pick the bear over a man who can potentially build a fort with
03:30:46
Eric Hutchinsyou make a campfire and just totally assume he's going to hurt you just it's just very disturbing that women have these at least they say they have these fantasies that men would just do this
03:30:58
Eric Hutchinsthey just assume such negativity about men it's just kind of disturbing to hear that it's like I would never take a chance with a wild ravaging bear than a human being without having a chance to I can't even talk to the bear you can at
03:31:10
Eric Hutchinsleast bargain with the man maybe you just discarded the the the the the common interest of talking over a Savage Beast it's just crazy how women think today no off I think it's disturbing
03:31:21
Eric Hutchinsthat we've been in positions where we feel that way rather than wait can I uh go ahead go ahead go je I do Andre TT yeah that's what like but that's that sounds good but according to the list
03:31:33
Eric Hutchinsthe number one fantasy of women is the thing that you all are saying that you hate that doesn't mean we want it to happen to us you do I don't believe you do I'm just saying it's just a contra it
03:31:44
Eric Hutchinsjust it just shows the duplicity contradictory nature of women that I spoke of earlier by if you y I'm not saying y'all feel this way
03:31:55
Eric HutchinsI'm just saying it's just proof of the contradictory nature of following what women say as according to what they do because if I feel like most women should feel how y'all feel but according to his
03:32:05
Eric Hutchinspoll the number one thing was the most appalling thing that they're saying out of their mouths and it's just contradictory like when that movie Shades of Gray came out women love that
03:32:16
Unknown Female[ __ ] a fantasy isn't a safe situation it actually happening in an abusive way is not something you're saying how was a Sal a fantasy and also let me add to this a lot of sa victims will fantasize
03:32:27
Unknown Femaletruma their trauma even though it was a bad experience for them they then fetishize their own traum as a man I would never ftiz somebody beat me and you're a man we are women I don't like I say what y'all say and what y'all do is two different things it don't make sense
03:32:40
Eric HutchinsI don't see how you can fantasize about something that you put on that you deem is so negative that doesn't make it's just genuinely men that's been that that do fantasize over no they end up being they end up
03:32:53
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardbeing that they turn all the way over that's what they do I would also like to ask I guess what is the percentage of these like the this statistic that we got in from the poll how many women what
03:33:05
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardcountry were they from what age demographics were they like there's just so much so many other questions centered around I'll tell you the answers to that so this is Center around mostly the
03:33:16
Andrew WilsonWestern World these polls were done between Australia uh uh Western Europe and the United States Canada things like this and the way that they gathered the data was from dating sites for the most
03:33:28
Andrew Wilsonpart they gathered them from dating sites uh women tend to be more honest in the background of those and so do men and that's how they can gather up different preferences and also what women commonly search for when they're
03:33:40
Andrew Wilsonlooking for um you know corn for instance uh what they're what they're searching for you can gather the data that way as well and this is what we come up with now men got all kinds of freaky [ __ ] too don't
03:33:52
Andrew Wilsonget me wrong right they got all kinds like the the thing that they top one of their top searches pretty gross right but uh so so I understand the both sides thing right I'm not even necessarily
03:34:04
Andrew Wilsonsaying I've always thought that the thing about this that was so bothersome to me in a different way is that women most commonly say well if a man spawned in the forest when they say I would choose him over the bear he's going to
03:34:16
Andrew Wilsonprotect me and I've always thought well that's a pretty assumed entitlement right it's pretty assumed entitlement that you just instantly assume any man in the forest is has some obligation to protect you like I would just be like
03:34:28
Andrew Wilsonwell I'm spawned in with you but I don't know you good luck hope you don't die I'm getting out of this Forest now see you later but it's always that that has always been the detail the answer that
03:34:39
Andrew Wilsonhas bothered me I understand why so here I'll give you an example let me give the let me give this question back the other way to Brian Atlas and to the gentleman who's there would you rather be spond
03:34:51
Andrew Wilsoninto the forest with a random bear or with a gay prisoner random gay prisoner so there's no it could possibly be that he has no intention of course of essing you
03:35:02
Andrew Wilsonbecause it's random right but you know also there's is the chance that he could would you prefer to be spawned in with the bear or with the gay prisoner random gay prisoner by the way gay
03:35:14
Eric Hutchinsprisoner gay prisoner gay prisoner I take the gay prisoner was he gay before he went to prison I'm going to take the human every time cuz we can I don't have to do nothing with you but you're you're a human you you have arms and legs you
03:35:25
Andrew Wilsoncan help me pick some [ __ ] up like I can't do nothing with no bed 100% yeah I think that that that seems reasonable to me it's within the confines of reason it's like okay but now they're in the same position you're in so now they
03:35:37
Andrew Wilsoncould easily also be overpowered by this person this person all they even have more information they know that this person likely has more volatility than the average person and they are in the
03:35:49
Andrew Wilsonsame kind of vulnerable position but according to reason they go well but the chances are still way better even with a gay prisoner than they would be with a bear so this is how you put you're taking your position putting it on them
03:36:02
Andrew Wilsonbut the answer is far different and so you kind of wonder why that is in fact I would even go so far as to say this uh somebody said with the sa the dignity aspect that's terrible for women when they get S absolutely but think about it
03:36:14
Andrew Wilsonfrom a man's perspective vers man's dignity that's brutal as well and so yet they're still willing to take the chance the other direction and so it makes you wonder why and really quick Andrew even
03:36:26
Brian AtlasI think even granting if this gay prisoner is like 30% faster and stronger than you you still take it you still take it yeah yeah I think that I think that you can continue with the
03:36:37
Andrew Wilsonconditionals to the point where almost it it almost would seem more reasonable to take the bear if and most men would still will take the idea of the gay prisoner because they're just looking at
03:36:49
Andrew Wilsonthe chances of if a random gay prisoner spawn in with you um that this person can at least be reasoned with and a bear is going to eat your face right yeah and and and I just felt like I said it just
03:37:01
Eric Hutchinsreal disturbing dis assumed negativity when it comes to men like even when he brought up the uh the poll of the women your first response was well where they from it's like when it comes to these these lists with women all this Nuance is required but when it come to men it's
03:37:14
Eric Hutchinsjust assumed that they going to do that but you don't ask well what's his upbringing what's his mentality like where is he from those questions are not asked when it comes to men when it comes to women it's like all we need all this nuance and it's like I feel like modern
03:37:25
Eric Hutchinswomen live in this world between fear and fantasy I want to bring up something about the when you're done they they they uh they they're in this even when it comes to stuff that women watch women
03:37:37
Eric Hutchinslike to watch a lot of you know uh romantic films or these Fantastical situations that never happened and then on the on the they like to watch horror and all these crimes of when men are
03:37:49
Eric Hutchinsjust doing this this these diabolical things to women it's like if you're constantly feeding your mind fear and fantasy you're not dealing with reality which is in neither one of these worlds and I just feel like you could just tell
03:38:00
Eric Hutchinswhen you ask women certain questions that they just really think the worst of men it's just embeded in y'all I don't know what's going on today I think go ahead I'm sorry I'm going to go out on a
03:38:11
Andrea Johnsonlimb oh got it I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that the ladies that are answering these polls when it comes to the essay they're thinking about okay
03:38:22
Andrea JohnsonI'm fantasizing about someone who is dominant who is handsome who I uh you know maybe it's I don't know uh someone
03:38:31
Eric Hutchinswealthy that's Dom far we're more interested ver a random man that's still I respect that but you still just making an excuse because it's
03:38:42
Eric Hutchinsa woman instead of just dealing with what it is like I'm not making an excuse you are because you added you added mad stuff to it it you added that he's rich and anybody kind of like you've done earlier what did I add what give me an
03:38:55
Eric Hutchinsexample like when we were watching the video and you were talking about it give me example cuz I didn't cuz you said that I'm assuming that a woman who fantasizes about being assaulted is
03:39:07
Eric Hutchinstalking about a man who's handsome and talk you don't want to be assaulted by somebody you're attracted to so that doesn't make sense to me anybody that you appeal to you don't want them to assault you that that doesn't make sense
03:39:20
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardto me I don't see question that didn't get answered um how many women answered in total in the world how many women answered that poll with that answer I'm assuming it was I know I don't know what
03:39:32
Andrew Wilsonthe total of them are I don't think it matters hang on I don't think it hang on hang on I'm trying to answer okay sorry so I I'm not sure that that would matter all you would need is to have a
03:39:43
Andrew Wilsonstatistical enough say sample size that it was statistically significant and the studies that I'm reading say that their sample sizes are statistically
03:39:54
Andrew Wilsonsignificant um another thing who is uh funding those studies well most of these were funded by uh women's clinics uh though many of them I would have to look
03:40:05
Andrew Wilsoninto uh the background but most of the time studies are funded by Progressive institutions not conservative ones so I don't see how how there would be a publishing bias against women exactly
03:40:16
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardbecause sometimes there occasionally is depending on who who puts on the study oh I have a related to that I have a quick question she cited this like commonly perpetuated statistic in
03:40:28
Brian Atlascolleges one and four are you prepared to make the same sort of criticism over the uh no because looked into that you looked into that one I actually have familiar is it valid I I would I think
03:40:40
Brian Atlasthat it is very so one in four women have been like full-blown essayed yeah I would say more than that of what do you think about the doj what do you think about the Like official like FBI and doj
03:40:52
Brian Atlasstatistics they actually like these are they're collecting actual crime data instead of pulling random like they're actually an analyzing the well here's the here's here's the data point that
03:41:04
Andrew Wilsonbacks up Brian the data point is that when pulled college students who are male give significantly higher numbers of being Saed than women do um all I was trying to mention with the
03:41:17
Andrew Wilsonpoll is that you said that it was gathered from dating Ops many women are not on dating Ops sometimes times resarch has done these many many different people have done these uh one such study that you can look at National
03:41:30
Andrew WilsonInstitute of Health this is from these are government studies uh though they don't tell you some of the information that you're asking and I would have to look into the undercurrent I think that that's fair right to ask who's
03:41:41
Andrew Wilsonconducting the studies and why they do seem to be statistically significant so hang on uh Team of researchers based University of North
03:41:51
Andrew WilsonTexas and Notre Dame studied 355 women that's statistically significant a part of the research involved participants being able to read rward fantasy scenario over headphones to investigate
03:42:03
Andrew Wilsonhow aroused they became in the study published the academic Journal of sexual behavior participants were and mo yeah the and the the number of how many did
03:42:13
Andrew Wilsonwas kind of Staggering right so um that's just one study one aspect of this study but there's other ways that this uh research is conducted I can't give you all the details because you don't
03:42:24
Brian Atlasknow them but it does seem like it's a fairly firm fact that this is pretty common also this the one in four study it included things like for example cat
03:42:34
Brian Atlascalling it included cat calling it also included where one of the parties did they have more than one alcoholic
03:42:42
Brian Atlasbeverage so they counted cons sensual sex but if even both of the parties had had more than one or two drinks they
03:42:53
Toni Jcounted that as sa do you think that that's sa if like if someone is yeah if someone is absolutely who said absolutely I mean if you're if if both
03:43:04
Brian Atlasparties are under the influence is that what you're saying sure yeah yeah okay well I guess both if both parties has had two beers is who said you said
03:43:15
Brian Atlasthat's sa yeah I mean because two beers well they still know what they're doing don't they I would say it depends on how the be hold stop stop stop stop stop hold on I guess I'm confused at the
03:43:26
Kayla Hardyquestion so a man has two beers a woman has two beers no they have sex is that essay oh no I thought you meant just if they were intoxicated that it doesn't count or something that's what we we
03:43:39
Mary Gracemisunderstood we misunderstood yeah it's too woke like people are super sensitive wa wait wait wait hold real quick I just want to give you the rest of this the results of the
03:43:51
Andrew Wilsonstudy which also explored other sexual and aggressive fantasies self-esteem blah blah blah 52% of the women had fantasies about force sex with a man 32%
03:44:01
Andrew Wilsonhad fantasies about being fullon R worded by the man 28% had for had fantasies about forced oral sex by a man
03:44:11
Eric Hutchinsand 16% forced anal sex and hold on hold on but y'all see how when the data
03:44:21
Eric Hutchinscomes it's always a push back when it comes to the woman's perspective cuz I've met many women and they've told me they've take my they've taken my hand
03:44:31
Eric Hutchinsand put it on their neck oh I don't know oh it sounds good but in reality there's a difference from being they feelt listen listen listen violence is violence I don't I don't play I don't
03:44:42
Eric Hutchinseven like to play fight I only like to fight for real to me if someone wants to pretend to be rough in a violent man like when is how is choking ever is nothing soft but she trusts that person
03:44:54
Eric HutchinsI get it but it still it still speaks to the Pathology of the woman when did my grandmother didn't do that no than my mother they do that today you know once a of course of course but but of course but it's always convenient when it comes
03:45:07
Eric Hutchinsto the women but when it come to man is it's definitely definite like that's just bias like like I was saying most women if to SL L even want your man to pretend to do something that in real
03:45:18
Eric Hutchinslife would be negative speaks to the Pathology of the woman why do you want me to pretend to choke you when did that become sexual when did that become intimate when did that become loving when did that become becoming of a
03:45:30
Eric Hutchinsfeminine woman to be choked by her man it doesn't make sense y'all can make all the excuses you want but it don't make no damn sense it's a fantasy part of in fantasy that's where Liv part of it
03:45:41
Brian Atlasactually is science when you uh allow a certain amount of oxygen to be deprived from the brain you orgasm harder I want to move away hold on guys guys guys let's move away from Andrew brought up
03:45:53
Brian Atlasthat one example I want to move away from the study about women's fantasies let's get back to kind of like the meat of the conversation here uh so you brought up this one in four number okay
03:46:04
Brian Atlasso this includes I mean I'm just curious here if uh the man had two drinks the girl had two drinks is that essay is that what it is according to to
03:46:15
Brian Atlasthe study I believe there was some component even consensual sex between two people who had had consumed some degree of alcohol they deemed it as sa
03:46:25
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardif it's consensual I don't count it as sa but they it also depends on body weight so two drinks for a 5 fo2 nothing versus a 6' 7 I'm sorry you're not going
03:46:36
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardto be blackout off of two drinks even if you're 5all all I'm saying is like alcohol conversion in height and weight for two people who weigh very different
03:46:47
Brian Atlasthings I'd argue Men drink more heavily than women so I'm I gave you an example where it's like the equivalent but let's say that the man's more drunk than the
03:46:57
Andrew Wilsonwoman is is that a say yeah if he's more if he's more drunk he's not blacked out but I mean how do how would I I don't even understand how you would beap
03:47:09
Andrew Wilsonlike if if two people go out and they get drunk no two people are going to have the same level of impair right there no two people are going to have the same level of impairment so one one's always going to be slightly or
03:47:20
Andrew Wilsoneven more less impaired than the other person even if they're both drunk I don't even know how you would quantify that like how would you quantify that oh well you had six drinks and she had three so now you're equally impaired so
03:47:33
Kayla Hardynow you can have sex like that that just seems absurd on its face right okay men get also more aggressive when they've had more to drink so if they're sloppy drunk they could still sexually wom get more aggressive when they drink too Wom definely get aggressive okay so if we