01:53:44Andrew Wilsonokay hang on hang on like it's saying that because you're with a girl uh for a straight year right the relationship is going really well and suddenly you learn very pertinent information to to this
01:53:56Andrew Wilsonrelationship that you now have to deal with and so you look outside external for guidance because you don't know exactly how to deal with a situation you've never been in I don't think that's a knock on the guy either I think it's him just going hey wait a second uh
01:54:09Andrew Wilsonthis is something I haven't experienced before and most men probably haven't been in the situation where they have a long-term relationship where they find that pertinent information out a year or two in I don't think I'd beat him up about it I think though that she should
01:54:21Andrew Wilsonprobably if he wanted to avoid this situation I I would think that the moral odd here would be the disclosure just like it would be with the STD and then situations avoid it but he knows now and he's still looking for convincing so
01:54:33Eric Hutchinswhat I'm saying is most men who have experience with women when it doesn't go their their way most masculine dominant men they're not going to wait around and figure out if she's with me or not once she shows you she's not on your team you
01:54:46Eric Hutchinsyou move on and you keep it pushing you don't go online and post to random people and say hey do you think I should take her back and I'm not knocking him he's not a bad guy he's just very green when it comes to women what advice would
01:54:58Eric Hutchinsyou have given him would you give him literally that's the advice she's not the one for you she's not the girl she's not the girl for you you was a good dude and you're too good for her keep it
01:55:08Andrew Wilsonpushing there's PL hang on so hang on I agree with you right the advice is leave perfect so a guy like that doesn't have the requisite experience looking for guidance from a male comes to you asks
01:55:20Eric Hutchinsyou you say leave why would you knock him for that I'm not knocking him I'm I'm I mean we you it's it's semantic at this point what I'm saying is that's not the right approach for this situation my
01:55:31Eric Hutchinsbrother don't take your grievances to strangers suck it up and do something with your time take that energy that's frustrating with her and go do some push-ups go go go go vent
01:55:42Eric Hutchinsto your boys go get a drink go play Madden something don't take it to the internet and think that oh cuz he still wants her he's looking for validation to stay not looking for a solution he's looking for a reason why he should
01:55:54Kayla Hardyignore her Folly which lets me know he's not experienced with women he's very green maybe he's also having resentment that he that she met that guy on the internet and so now he's going to the internet well I think there's a bit more
01:56:06Brian Atlascontext in the post we're going to pull it back up maybe there's some explanation as to why he went to the internet I think if I saw his girlfriend was uh trying to like cope and Gaslight him a little bit so let's pull it back
01:56:18Brian Atlasup I'll have you read the rest of it scroll down please hide the overlay scroll down I'm going to have you read where it starts relevant comments scroll
01:56:28Kayla Hardyscroll down scroll down scroll down okay all right in my opinion if you're dating someone and moving towards a serious relationship you don't freaking bang other people this would be a deal breaker for me but you do you man
01:56:42Brian Atlasif you can't get past it then end it little clarification here that's from like a comment or from the original Reddit thread uh oop I'm I believe that's just original poster so this is a response
01:56:52Kayla Hardyuh this is the actual guy who uh with the girlfriend issue go ahead yeah that's how I feel as well it would have been one thing if she was just talking to other guys in the early stages while we were defining things of course that's
01:57:05Kayla Hardyfine and normal but it feels like a slap in the fact that she face he meant face that she found another guy to sleep with after we had already gone on quite a few dates and I made it clear I thought we were moving towards a serious relationship which she seemed to also
01:57:17Kayla Hardyacknowledge there is no way she didn't know I would feel hurt that she did that scroll down a bit here we scroll down scoll down conf okay read that one yeah her logic made no sense to me she tried to explain that with guys she wants to be in a
01:57:30Kayla Hardyrelationship she wants it to feel special and wants it to build an emotional connection but for guys she sees no future with she sometimes can just just wanted physical fun that meant nothing but I just can't wrap my mind
01:57:42Kayla Hardyaround that it feels like a gut punch that as we were getting closer and building a connection she didn't want to be intimate with me but instead preferred to find someone else no matter how she rationalizes is it it's hard not
01:57:53Kayla Hardyto feel like a second choice and there was an update 23 Days Later read the update please as the title says I decided to break up with Jess I kept going back and forth because I was worried I was throwing away a great thing over something that happened in
01:58:05Kayla Hardythe past but the problem is I thought I really wouldn't be able to get past it I can't help what she did was really shitty yes I know that technically she did not cheat but she knew that I wanted a real relationship at that and that we were potentially moving in that
01:58:17Kayla Hardydirection but meanwhile she expected me to plan and pay for interesting dates Court her and proved that I was worthy of her while she happily hooked up with randos who basically did nothing but
01:58:28Kayla Hardyshow an interest in [ __ ] [ __ ] that in a follow-up conversation it also came up that her friends sort of guided her to act like this that she should basically allow herself to have fun and to keep her casual options open but with me to
01:58:40Kayla Hardymake me work for it and show that I wasn't just looking for sex but was capable of being a committed partner the whole thing just seems so manipulative and ugly and these were also mutual friends who I considered to be nice
01:58:51Kayla Hardygirls and now my friends as well now I never want to see any of those pieces of [ __ ] ever again anyway I know this is starting to sound a bit like a rant LOL but I felt pretty pissed off and basically called it quits the actual
01:59:03Kayla Hardybreakup was actually quite unpleasant No harsh words were exchanged but just cried and we just kind of talked about some happy times I guess that's the hardest part about this like I don't think she is a bad girl and maybe we
01:59:14Kayla Hardycould have had a nice future together like we did over the past few months but in the end I do think I made the right decision I want to be with someone who treats me well from the get-go not someone who manipulates me while playing
01:59:24Eric Hutchinsgames just so she can have her cake and eat it too uh you had something really quick but yeah um like from what I'm seeing the guy just is not he doesn't understand women like that she she
01:59:37Eric Hutchinsdidn't like him that much she was still feeling him out and she was willing to go on dates and he was willing to acquest to that cuz he doesn't know women and he was way more into her than she was into him when a woman wants to
01:59:49Eric Hutchinshave sex with you and when she likes you she knows right away at that point she all you can do is make her could turn her off but she she wasn't really attracted to that guy she's seen that he can be the guy that can be nice but the
02:00:02Eric Hutchinsguys that she was really attracted to was the guys that she was sleeping with so he just he's not a Vic he's not he's not he's not he's not we're not going to knock the guy but he just he just wasn't paying attention to the red flags I'm
02:00:14Andrew Wilsonsorry yeah but but but where does he learn to do that you have to get out you got to get your feelings h i mean you don't know how to fight until you get punched in the face that's why I don't understand the argument right it's like I get what you're saying that the guy's a simp but he doesn't have a lot of
02:00:26Andrew Wilsonexperience with women blah blah blah blah blah nobody's disputing that and I'd give him the same advice you would leave but how exactly do if you're conflicted and you don't have this requisite experience which is what you're talking about how do you get it
02:00:39Andrew Wilsonother than to have stuff like this happen go to friends mentors people like this and discuss it with them and another thing like on these just real quick on these Reddit threads things like this many of the times I think that
02:00:50Andrew Wilsonthis is done by people so that other people can see what's going on and and they can have a reference point if something similar is happening to them right so it makes sense well the way I learned cuz I I didn't have nobody say
02:01:03Eric Hutchinshey don't do this don't do this I just paid attention to my environment and I look at what women did in real time and I knew what not to do and I wasn't going to play myself you never had any conflict with women that you went your
02:01:14Eric Hutchinsfriends with of of course but I'm not taking a woman on multiple dates spending hella bread and she's telling me we're taking it slow like I'm not I never went through that that's just me personally but I thought you wanted a traditional woman and doesn't a
02:01:28Eric Hutchinstradition I didn't say we have to have sex but I'm saying I'm not about to be spending money multiple multiple times and you're still trying to figure it out like sometimes date doesn't have to be money spent cuz once you start spending money men's men's emotions get attached
02:01:40Eric Hutchinsto their money so what I'm going to do is say hey so I won't get mad at you let's go take a walk let's go to museum something that's not costing me anything so I don't feel so upset when things go left men try to start investing it oh
02:01:53Eric HutchinsI'm going to take her and take it there she hasn't done nothing for you but show up so that's on him so I do want a traditional woman but I understand we don't live in traditional time so I'm not going to put myself in a traditional situation that's going to get me played I'm going to play regular do something
02:02:06Eric Hutchinsthat's cost efficient cuz if she really likes me she going to be there if you really like a dude he don't got to take you to root Cris now the guy that you're not really sure about he might have to spend some money but the guy that you know you really like he just got to show
02:02:17Eric Hutchinsup so I will put her in situations where she has to show me that she likes me naturally not because I'm paying for this or paying for that not saying we can't get something to eat but you're paying for one 2 3 four multiple dates
02:02:29Eric Hutchinslike you got to just be smart and realize that hold up this is not supposed to go like that she still trying to figure me out I just think you just got to be smarter than that and look around and see that most women they know when they like a guy y'all know right away if y'all like a guy from the
02:02:42Eric Hutchinsfirst conversation if you could see yourself being with him by the second third conversation you can see if you can see yourself being physical with him it doesn't take a long time so I just think he just needs more experience he probably a young cat but he just needs some more experience he just got he got
02:02:54Brian Atlashe just pop got his cherry pop he'll be all right maybe uh I I was thinking uh back when I used to be on on dating apps uh
02:03:06Brian Atlasand I'm not on dating apps anymore and I feel like I the women I date now has changed a little bit so my position on this has changed a little bit but my position used to be because I knew what happened when it came to meeting people
02:03:19Brian Atlason dating apps kind of to your point to your point if you're meeting somebody on a dating app you have to go in and I'm not saying that this is how it should be but it is how it is uh you kind of have
02:03:29Brian Atlasto go in assuming that they're probably [ __ ] somebody else and so for this reason I was actually like bro I'm not going to be a traditional guy with you if there's a chance you're [ __ ]
02:03:40Brian Atlassomebody else or dating multiple other people at the same time a lot of girls do this they'll like entertain other dudes while they're [ __ ] at least one other guy two other who knows what they're doing it's like I would feel
02:03:53Brian Atlaskind of wrong if I was investing even it's a even if it's a $20 [ __ ] hamburger I ain't going to pay for a girl on a date and then oh do all the the gentlemanly traditional [ __ ] and
02:04:05Brian Atlasthen you you get the doggy bag to go you take it over to the dude's house who you're [ __ ] who never paid for anything you [ __ ] him on the first date and then you want me to be traditional you want me to pay for a
02:04:15Brian Atlasfirst date I was always like n we can go 50/50 My Views have changed a little bit in so far as I I feel like I'm dating different kinds of like well I got off the dating apps dating different kinds
02:04:26Brian Atlasof women like vetting them beforehand are you involved with any other dudes I'll just straight up ask like are there other dudes in the picture if there are I'm not interested but back then I'm like yeah these girls are probably
02:04:37Eric Hutchinsdating maybe even [ __ ] another dude not going to pay for the first aid and real quick a lot of times a woman really likes you and she respects your effort she'll offer to pay for the date or do something for you or I'll
02:04:50Brian Atlascook just come no so it's like she didn't offer him nothing but I owe you and he he ate that up like no you're you're a clown yeah and also just I mean a point on this like in terms of if you
02:05:02Brian Atlaswant to get the girl you should pay for the date it's just like the most Optimum move like even if it's unfair whatever like you should just pay for that [ __ ] because it's just like some girls are going to be like oh okay they're going to have an issue with it so if you're if you're actually your goal is to get the
02:05:15Brian Atlasgirl like you can do the whole like oh equality [ __ ] but if you're trying to like min max be most Optimum when it comes to dating you should you should pay but it's like I like looking at it from Principal like if a girl is [ __ ]
02:05:28Brian Atlasanother dude like you should not be doing traditional [ __ ] for her like she she can get your providing and protecting when she's your girlfriend when she's your girl but if she like imagine you [ __ ] died for a chick and then like she was going to [ __ ] another
02:05:41Kayla Hardydude that night like what the [ __ ] you know that's a little extreme it could be that way though you never know like life is life and it could also happen when you're exclusive you know like oh like cheating yeah and
02:05:54Eric Hutchinsso I feel like you are what you attract and if you want a traditional woman you have to be a traditional man dating in relationships is if be honest it's a dice roll it's all it's all a gamble it's all of it is a gamble man you don't
02:06:05Eric Hutchinsknow so to come in with this High Hopes G golly whiz type of [ __ ] like nah bro like you got to be real realistic you know what I'm saying and as a man I'm sorry I never jumped into a situation
02:06:16Eric Hutchinslike I got insurance plans I got friends like I'm not just blindly just giving you everything like no you going to earn this [ __ ] and I'm going to put you in situations where it's not a transactional situation you don't owe me nothing I don't owe you nothing we're
02:06:29Eric Hutchinsjust get I'm assuming you're talking to a person now sometimes I kind of want you to talk to somebody because now you can compare contrast and say okay I see you got to let sometimes you got to let things go to see if it's really worth it
02:06:40Eric Hutchinsso if she's talking to another guy don't be jealous assume that you're she's not your girl she's not in your bed you should assume she's talking to somebody else and you should too you should be talking to somebody else you're just
02:06:52Eric Hutchinstalking I'm I'm not saying you should be having sex with multiple people but if take away the intimacy part male and female in the beginning I don't think there anything wrong with
02:07:02Eric Hutchinsliterally talking to different people you're gauging out who's who and what's what so a man come into a situation well we had a date she told me that we might and I believe her then that's what you
02:07:14Eric Hutchinsget like who where you from like I don't know it's all about where you from and how you grow up I grew up in a fast-paced environment so I had to learn quick some people grow up in these rural towns and they just you know Old
02:07:26Eric HutchinsMcDonald had a farm ass upbringings and they try to deal with people you know what I'm saying in different environments they think everybody going to feel sorry for them but the world is fast bro you got to catch on quick I grew up in the New York City
02:07:37Eric Hutchinsmetropolitan area I learned real early that women say one thing and do something else I've seen all the pretty good girls go with the bad guys so I'm not going to go and say I'm going to save her no I'm going to move accordingly so some dudes just need to
02:07:49Eric Hutchinsget out their neighborhood move from their neighborhood their environment go somewhere else and just you know get get get you know Ro s they Royal o get that wind beneath they they Wings you feel me like get out get out your head the wind
02:08:03Brian Atlasyeah it's going to happen like people get played every day be like get over it like you'll be all right you a man yeah but Andrew um I this sort of ties into some conversations we've covered this topic before uh this one's a little diff
02:08:16Brian Atlasa little different but I mean the whole like waiting for sex thing and I think like this is just another example on the pile of this this is the probably every guy has some sort of story like this um
02:08:27Brian Atlasand we hear it from the the women on the show too um but Andrew does this further solidify kind of at least my position on this when it comes to the whole like
02:08:37Andrew Wilsonwaiting for sex thing well not I mean not really um because your idea here is you want disclosure right and you want disclosure so that you can make the determination because you're saying look
02:08:49Andrew Wilsonif if uh you want to make me wait but you just made this other guy who didn't wait not wait then you have already established that uh you know that she's disclosed this right in this
02:09:01Andrew Wilsoncase this guy was victimized now he could say well he didn't have the requisite experience but then if you also say in the next sentence and the thing that'll save him from that in the future is getting the requisite experience then we have to admit that he
02:09:12Andrew Wilsonwas victimized there's really no way around that right okay so in this case so in this case uh Brian I'm not sure how it actually helps your case because you would demand disclosure or else you wouldn't know that she wasn't willing to sleep with you right or that she had
02:09:25Brian Atlasslept with another guy so you could apply the standard well it's more so I guess it it ties into this whole thing of you're you're dating a girl and she wants to wait and then it does there
02:09:38Brian Atlasdoesn't have to even be another guy in the picture but like she previously like she's had some one night stands her last boyfriend they got they hooked up quickly and then you come into the
02:09:48Andrew Wilsonpicture and then she's like oh I want to three months I want you know whatever it is and I'm just like yeah but how would you know that right I mean I would get the disclosure hopefully that's but that's my whole point right it's like so
02:10:01Brian Atlasthat's why this doesn't actually solidify your position because had he had the disclosure this this whole thing wouldn't have happened to begin with right oh well I'm I'm not really talking anymore about that specific situation
02:10:13Brian Atlasit's more so just kind of the the general like the waiting the whole waiting thing that I have a quarrel with where like if if look women are free look if
02:10:25Brian Atlasif you had sex with a 100 men I mean I wouldn't be interested in you if you had sex with 100 men but if she previously had sex with 100 men uh within 30 minutes of meeting them and then I come
02:10:36Brian Atlasinto the picture I mean that would immediately be a disqualifier but okay just for the sake of uh the hypothetical and then you want to make me wait 6 months to have sex I'm like I'm I'm going to lose
02:10:48Andrew Wilsoninterest can I like I'm just not interested yeah I mean of course that but but this this has always been your position your position on this has always been pretty consistent which is just I would feel like I was playing second fiddle if you decided that you
02:11:00Andrew Wilsonwere going to make me wait and the last 10 guys you were with or five guys or four guys or three guys you immediately went in um that that I mean what why would I do that right what was so special about them that you would do that with them and then not special
02:11:14Brian Atlasabout me that you wouldn't do that with me so I I mean I've always understood the argument yeah it's just a raw deal it's a raw deal for the guy and I would just like I would I would doubt the sincerity of the position it just feels
02:11:25Andrew Wilsonmanipulative it's like look you're free to do what you want I'm just probably going to immediately I've always thought that it was faking virtue that the idea was to fake virtue that's always been my position yeah and and there I think one
02:11:36Brian Atlasof the girls maybe said it here at the table it's like um I'm trying to think what it was but basically what was it oh
02:11:46Brian Atlasit's like okay so they view like the guy who's worthy of the relationship ship it's like oh you're worth waiting for but it's like so you treated the guy
02:11:56Brian Atlaswho's most who's deserving of the relationship worse than the [ __ ] boy it doesn't make sense like you're so
02:12:05Brian Atlasimportant to me I treated sex like it was sacred for you but not the other 50 guys who I gave it to on the first night who were [ __ ] boys and we [ __ ] yeah
02:12:16Andrew Wilsonbut that's because I respect myself now Brian and I didn't respect myself then right that's because I respect myself now true yeah I think it's I I do I do think that there's a significant amount of fake
02:12:29Andrew Wilsonvirtue that comes with this and the idea is just um uh she's [ __ ] testing you right [ __ ] testing you and uh the The Virtue The Virtue aspect of this is to say well look I'm I'm virtuous you're
02:12:41Andrew Wilsonvirtuous we're all virtuous um when may perhaps that's not the case because most of the time I hear them say this is I want to make the right guy wait um the right guy being a guy who I consider virtuous so if you're not sleeping with
02:12:54Andrew Wilsonhim because he doesn't want a woman who is promiscuous then wouldn't you just be faking this as a virtue that's that that then becomes the question yeah I I think
02:13:02Eric Hutchinsguys got to realize and it's kind of tricky but you got to understand how women speak they're not going to give you the answers they're going to speak in code sometime I know it sounds weird
02:13:15Eric HutchinsI know a lot of guys is so black and white and say well she should have said it she's not going to say it if she likes you you she's not going to make you wait unless you're a she's a virgin she unless she's a virgin and she's
02:13:27Eric Hutchinstelling you to wait is cuz she doesn't like you that much she likes you enough to see that you might take care of her but who she who who she likes for a relationship and versus who she's attract like who she's attracted to
02:13:38Eric Hutchinsversus who she thinks is safe for her is two different things and sometimes guys are the safe guy you're not who she's attracted to and we be thinking why is she attracted to women are attracted to
02:13:50Eric Hutchinsobjectivity regardless of what they say and I think a lot of times men be listening to what women literally say and believe them and she's not going to tell you the answer she's going to reveal certain things and women y'all may not admit it but it's true women
02:14:03Eric Hutchinsgoing to tell and say certain things that publicly feeds their image but behind the scenes they not always going for the super duper nice guy he might be a little rough around the edges he might be going through something they don't
02:14:15Eric Hutchinswant this cookie cutter guy so a lot of guys who come with that cookie cutter energy and get played out they think the woman did them wrong it's like no you too busy listening to women tell you what a man should do instead of just
02:14:27Eric Hutchinsbeing a man and follow your energy don't be abusive don't be wild but a woman who likes you is not going to tell you to wait she don't even talk like that she's only talking that like that to the guy
02:14:38Eric Hutchinsthat know she knows will wait while she actually gives herself to the guy who just be hisself and she likes that so I think guys just need to learn about women more I don't I don't understand this position though because it just
02:14:51Andrew Wilsonit's from my end it just seems like you're blaming the let's ask the ladies the men say the men say well wait yeah I listen to what she actually said and heard exactly what she said and so yes
02:15:03Andrew Wilsonof course based on what she said I did X thing uh that's how human beings operate right we listen to what each other then that's what we have to go on you ever had a girl say stop doing it but she want you to keep going hang on just
02:15:15Andrew Wilsonlisten I just listen listen back hang on okay so I think that the idea here that there's like a special code that is easy to crack or something like this I think that that's uh in in many ways
02:15:26Andrew Wilsonfoolishness I think ultimately that men themselves what other barometer do they have to go off of except communication they have to communicate now like with anything you have to utilize intuition
02:15:37Andrew Wilsonwith communication and understand double speak get that from men sometimes too uh but I don't I don't really understand what else you have to go on and if you say well you should have known better even though she told you everything in the opposite it just sounds like you're
02:15:49Eric Hutchinsblaming the guy for it G the woman a pass I'm not giving her a pass cuz I know it's like this man you can listen to what people say you going observe what they do I don't listen to what people say I look at what they do I look
02:16:00Eric Hutchinsat the the actions of women I see women say I want a nice guy but do they all do they often Time end up with the guy that's cookie cutter and perfect most of the time no so obviously what they're
02:16:11Eric Hutchinstelling you is not what they want so as a man it's like you got children your children your child might say something but you know they mean something else like you're the man you supposed to have this sick sense of life that's why we're
02:16:24Eric Hutchinsthe leaders we don't everything a woman says is not literally what she wants she's going to say things because women are trying to protect their image most often they're not they don't want to come off like like I know a lot of women secretly I've met friends female friends
02:16:37Eric Hutchinsthat say you know I really want I I I I want to dress like this but I want people look at me this way or sometimes I want to be a little more liberated or one day I want to try stripping I don't think it's cool but women are not going to always tell you their inclinations
02:16:49Eric Hutchinsyou got to just as assume and look at society and look at the world we live in if she wants you she's going to give herself to you she's not going to make you wait for No six and seven and8 months and if you believe that because
02:17:00Eric Hutchinsshe said that I just don't think you're paying attention to what women actually do you're listening to what they say but that's what I'm saying it's all about where you come from where I come from you got to read body language you got to read how people move if I listen to what
02:17:12Andrew Wilsonpeople said all the time I wouldn't even be here so I'm looking at more than just what they're saying I'm looking at what they're doing wom are these excellent manipulators as you are kind of pointing out and stating it's a manipulation
02:17:26Andrew Wilsontactic because they're actually doing the opposite of what they're saying why is there some assumption here then that if this is the case that they're not going to have their actions at least in some way sink up to what it is they're
02:17:36Andrew Wilsontelling you the hundreds and hundreds of men that I talk to for instance they say there was no signs of problems it seemed like she was acting the exact same way she uh she she told me right she was
02:17:47Andrew Wilsonacting the same way that she told me these red flags were not always apparent right and then bam there's a bombshell like what happened to this poor guy bam hits with he's hit with a bombshell everything's going good everything seems
02:17:58Andrew Wilsonto sink up everything she's saying and doing seems to be uh on par right he doesn't see any of these red flags and then bam gets hit with a bombshell and it's like so if it is the case in the one side you say Well they're kind of
02:18:10Andrew Wilsonexpert manipulators got to read between the line and if you read between the lines uh you'll know how to kind of crack this code it's like okay but at the same time then why couldn't they just also uh you know sink their words with their
02:18:23Andrew Wilsonactions and trick you that way it see that seems to be something which happens often she did it for the other guy that she liked she didn't do it for him yeah but he didn't yeah but he didn't know that it if you she never did anything to
02:18:35Eric Hutchinsbased on that post it was a lot of assumptions and I think I feel it seems like he was talking like a girl to me that's how women talk I don't hear men saying like that talking like that no offense ladies he was talking like he was in his feelings he didn't sound like
02:18:48Eric Hutchinsa man to me he didn't sound masculine to me just because she agreed to eat your food that you bought does not mean she likes you because that's what she said her actions are going to show you that to it's intuition it's read between the
02:19:00Eric Hutchinslines it's she didn't do nothing but just go on dates it's intuition right but all she did was go on dates with him and he said I think it's going good I took her out to eat three times and she can't she actually showed up I think
02:19:12Unknown Femalewe're going places that's what he believed that's on him can I add something does that mean that his feelings are just completely invalid now is that what you're saying what I'm saying is he you can't put yourself in
02:19:24Unknown Femalesituations where you're not getting anything but words I I understand that but some people like when it's happening they can't see for what it is so for you to say like he's dumb he shouldn't have done that I don't actually believe that cuz I feel like when you actually like
02:19:37Unknown Femalesomeone you can't see that you're getting played or you wouldn't sit there and get played you know what I'm saying so as much as he would have liked to seeing that he was getting played I don't think that he saw it and to say that he should have been more of a man he should have been more of a man who cares how masculine it is I still think
02:19:51Eric Hutchinshis feelings are valid you know I think if he looks back he's going to say ah cuz a lot of times when I talk to and that's fine but does that inv invalidate his entire experience no but I can't call him a victim you know what I'm
02:20:01Eric Hutchinssaying I just think he was misled and I think he just was not really he's he doesn't really understand the relationship Dynamic today and he's very he's just very green and bless his heart it's not we need good people like that
02:20:13Eric Hutchinsthat's great that he's very green and he just assumed took things at face value that's cool but if you deal in this modern world with these modern women and until it's you know she's your woman she's not your woman if you want to keep
02:20:26Eric Hutchinsfinancing dates for a woman that you haven't confirmed that's your woman that's a gamble that you're taking brother yeah like 100% but I still feel like he might not have like relationship experience before I still feel like his
02:20:38Unknown Femalefeelings are valid cuz say that was his first relationship he's figuring it out he is 100% right in my opinion only CU like you got hurt like you didn't know what was happening you didn't know what you're were doing so to say just be more of a man I feel like he's learning let
02:20:51Toni Jhim learn like you know no he he learning he he going to learn a l there are red flags though the first red flag is first of all you're dating for a year and you're just going on dates like what what are we doing mean that's definitely
02:21:02Toni Jred flag that's a red flag like like he said I agree with him like us women if we know we like someone we're typically
02:21:10Toni Jnot going to say no now you guys may disagree but if we're being honest yeah we're not going to be like oh no I'm going to make you wait for 7 or8 like
02:21:20Toni Jthat's crazy that's really like this is we're in 2024 like let's be real that's not even realistic and and he he there were red flags he just didn't see them for whatever the reason was but he has
02:21:32Unknown Femaleto take an accountability for just like we do we all get in bad relationships we live and we learn but you got to take accountability I mean Hello who does that but it's still his story and he's still like you know what I'm saying like
02:21:44Unknown FemaleI'm not saying that like he should have done what he done and like he should continue doing what he does but what I'm saying is like to invalidate his feelings completely is
02:21:54Toni Jweird allowed someone to to go on a date for to date a girl for a whole year and just go on a bunch of dinner dates I thought they still doesn't take away from what it is and assume we're in a
02:22:05Andrew Wilsonrelationship but it is a little strange we expect him to take accountability for he didn't do anything wrong he he played he didn't do anything wrong to anybody else he wronged himself he played
02:22:17Sinead Barretthisself he disrespected hisself in his time and his he was that doesn't seem like he's if that mattered that much if that mattered that much to him um then that should have been established in the
02:22:29Andrew Wilsonbeginning yeah I just kind of reject this idea that men have like some type of six sense crystal ball where they can see in the future and just know not about seeing the future Li Ty it it
02:22:41Andrew Wilsonseems it seems to me completely reasonable to have uh you know expectations of the opposite sex that they don't lie and mislead you and [ __ ] a bunch of dudes while you're dating them that just seems it seems it seems
02:22:53Andrew Wilsontotally reasonable to me to have that expectation now I understand the argument of saying but Andrew in the current modern dating world that's not reality I understand that portion of it right perhaps it's not reality but that
02:23:06Eric Hutchinsdoesn't mean that I'm going to bash a guy for having those expectations cuz totally reasonable expectations to be like well bashing we're not bashing based on what that I'm sorry y'all based on what that thread said I didn't see
02:23:18Eric Hutchinsanything conclusive from her side that would make me think she's mine or she's waiting for me he's saying it felt like it seemed like he she didn't say you're
02:23:28Eric Hutchinsmy guy and we have a future he say she's giving off feelings as if it might be people lie and men do too I've been a situation where I have friends and I love I'm all for the brothers I'm all for the men I'm all I'm for people
02:23:42Eric Hutchinsperiod but I'm not going to just say whatever just to fit anybody's narrative I got friends they say yo she tripping she doing this and then you'll get you'll really un be a fly the W the situation and be like bro you goofy that's not that's that's what you're
02:23:55Eric Hutchinstelling me she did she didn't really do it like that like men embellish too and men lie to themselves too because the girl is cute and they like it's a Reddit thread we don't know what she said and
02:24:06Eric Hutchinsthe stuff that he said about her isn't conclusive and it isn't enough for me to put all my sh eggs in one basket and focus on her nothing she did said that
02:24:18Andrew WilsonI'm should be I should be focused on this one he assumed that nothing she said or nothing he said that she said shows me that got on a relationship in the beginning is your intuition and the way that people are acting and the way that they're moving towards each other
02:24:32Andrew Wilsonwhat else do you have what was her actions showing up to eat well hang on hang on maybe thought he she was traditional like you were saying and was waiting to not give herself away yeah if you're under the assumption and you're being LED under that assumption you
02:24:43Andrew Wilsoncould say it was wrong that's fair to say that he was wrong but I don't think it's fair to say he did anything wrong or that he was he was was out of pocket here I think that it's far it's far more reasonable to say okay I had a
02:24:55Andrew Wilsonreasonable expectation uh that we were inside of an actual relationship moving towards that because that's all of the signs all the signals all the everything uh were
02:25:06Eric Hutchinsdemonstrating that now what else do you have except that conversation intuition what else do you have respectfully what was the signs because if a woman if I'm inviting a woman to eat and she shows up to eat was signs but he he didn't
02:25:19Eric Hutchinsexplain nothing he's that's what he said we so we just assume he telling the truth I'm not going to do that I don't assume people telling the truth what I heard was I took what he said okay what
02:25:28Eric HutchinsI heard was I invited her out to eat she showed up and ate multiple times and that I feel like we are getting somewhere that's not showing me anything
02:25:39Eric Hutchinsnow if I took her to eat and she took me to eat then I would say oh maybe she's she's she's uh she's intimate because we're because sex is off the table we're not intimate so we're not having sex
02:25:51Eric Hutchinswhat is she doing to show me that I have a chance with her besides showing up to eat nothing so if you are believing that and thinking because she came to eat which most people will do and you think
02:26:03Eric Hutchinsbecause she came to eat on your dying multiple times that that means y'all are going that's all on him what I don't know no man who would do that for a year I don't know man that seems would you do
02:26:15Andrew Wilsonthat would you do that well I'm only taking the story at the value of story so hang on hang on hang on hang on hang on what I'm not
02:26:25Andrew Wilsondoing is I'm not Reinventing the story I'm only taking it at face value and contending with what the guy is saying now we can add new hang on we can add new inventions to the story in order to
02:26:37Andrew Wilsonmake it sound this way or that way I'm literally only contending with what's being said assuming that for right now it's true because we don't have anything else to match it against okay so okay so we don't but but as men what do we say
02:26:50Eric Hutchinswe push back when women say believe all women so I'm not going to believe all men either based on what he said I took out to eat for a year and she gave herself to somebody else that's not what that means when you say when when they say believe all all women they're
02:27:02Andrew Wilsontalking about a specific thing which is saay right and so that's what the point of contention is there I think genuinely speaking I do believe most men's experience in relationships over most
02:27:12Sinead Barrettwomen to be honest with you I really do I think that was his chance to take that risk factor of waiting for her knowing or not knowing that she has done something but I feel like that's more on
02:27:24Sinead Barretthim on that part but morally it's not uh right for her to do that either in my perspective but again I just think it should have been brought up in the beginning if that was that serious and
02:27:35Sinead Barrettthat um important to him then it just should have been asked in the beginning if she was sleeping with other people or not apparently it wasn't such a big thing to her cuz that's what she's doing um I don't know now that's I now this I
02:27:47Andrew Wilsonwould say right I have to I have to say it's reasonable it's reason to say okay in the beginning we've established firm boundaries this and that uh I understand the principle behind this and it makes total sense to me but this is why I
02:27:59Andrew Wilsonbrown up the hypothetical of for instance if you had genital warts would you disclose it you say yes and it's because you know the person if they're informed of that is going to make a different decision because now they know
02:28:11Andrew Wilsonthe situation I think it's the same thing in this instance that there's some kind of Duty or obligation here if you know that this person is moving towards a relationship but would not if you revealed that information to reveal that information to them that seems totally
02:28:23Andrew Wilsonreasonable same thing if like a guy was a multiple felon wouldn't you want to know that 100% before establishing or or if they were guilty of domestic violence you would want to know that right so uh and the reason you would want to know
02:28:36Andrew Wilsonthose things is because that's the best way you can make an informed decision about what it is that you're doing so I think that there's a duty and obligation to do that so Andrew let me ask you a quick question sure would you take a woman out on dates for a complete year
02:28:48Andrew Wilsonand think that yall going somewhere and didn't do anything what is going two weeks but whether or not whether or not I would so so to answer your question directly right of course not but the thing is is like first first first and
02:29:01Andrew Wilsonforemost right I'll make a couple things clear so here's my Olive Branch to you I don't know anything about women and I know no [ __ ] about dating I've been out of the dating market for years right I'm a what you would consider to be a
02:29:12Andrew Wilsonlogician uh that's basically what I do I run everything through a a f prism for Christian ethics and logic right I'm not saying that you don't know more about dating than me all of you I'm most C most certainly know more than I do I'm
02:29:25Andrew Wilsonin no position about dating at all uh so that's that's kind of my Olive Branch to you but I can just say here that what I'm not willing to do if I'm if if I'm
02:29:35Andrew Wilsonjust looking at it from the prism of uh who's doing the right things who's doing the wrong things from the moral prism from Christian ethics from from these kind of standpoints it seems to me that it's completely reasonable to believe a
02:29:47Andrew Wilsonperson's telling you the truth and to make inferences that if they know that you want to be exclusive and you know that that's what they're working for even if you haven't established that boundary that they have some obligation to tell you that or they're in the wrong
02:30:00Andrew WilsonI think that that's totally fair now is that reasonable or does it map on to the reality of the situation no probably not right so you're probably right there like he should have known this he should have known that maybe all of that's true
02:30:12Brian Atlasright but I still I still think that I'm going to hold if this is all true her accountable for this and not him cuz I I don't see what he actually did okay we are going to move it on we are going to move it on here uh we have a
02:30:25Tira Hos / Hannah Recardquestion here from Stiffler ask everyone to rate their own looks on the scale of one to 10 go ahead seven all right what about you I don't know like maybe an
02:30:38Brian Atlaseight mhm okay 10 all right solid five
02:30:46Brian Atlasokay um nine nine okay seven all right I would say a five or a six what about you I say I'm a a strong eight okay I give
02:30:58Andrew Wilsonmyself a five Andrew what about you well with so many eights nines and tens on the panel I could just never be anything less than a 10 myself yeah we do have we got the 10 and
02:31:10Andrea Johnsonthen we got the nine um I just want to say I think all the ladies here are tens I know everyone said so low just the ladies just just do wait
02:31:20Andrea Johnsonquestion for you uh are all women tens of course yes okay are all men tens yes oh you guys are tense to now your
02:31:32Andrew Wilsonattitude can make you less then but we're saying l no but it's looks looks everyone here is a 10 okay but doesn't it defeat the point of the question if
02:31:42Andrea Johnsonyou so you're saying that all people on planet Earth are of equal attractiveness I would say everyone a 10 but everyone also has their own opinion of beauty right so I might be attracted
02:31:56Andrea Johnsonbe a 10 because that would include you you would have an opinion about beauty as well right yeah but it my attraction to people is different than what you know their actual beauty is yeah sure but if
02:32:08Andrew Wilsonby using whatever the subjective standard is that you use to determine attractiveness for yourself right then you could not make the determination everybody was a 10 if because you find some people less attractive than others
02:32:20Andrea JohnsonI wouldn't say that I find people less attractive than others I just am attracted to certain people well then that's finding some people less attractive than others it means I have a type doesn't mean that they're less
02:32:33Andrew Wilsonattractive yeah but then the type that you're attracted to is more attractive to you than the type you're not attracted to which means that you're attracted to some people not attracted to others so some people they let exal
02:32:46Andrea Johnsonconclusion some people more attractive than other people let me give you an example I think most people would say that Rihanna is extremely gorgeous she's a 10 but is she my type no but I do
02:32:57Andrew Wilsonrecognize that she is a beautiful woman but she's not my type she's okay yeah but so you have less attractiveness towards a woman like this who you also think is pretty right sorry can you repeat that so you
02:33:09Andrew Wilsonhave less so you're less attracted to this woman but you also understand that she's pretty right you can use whatever metric you're using you can still determine she's pretty however that would still whatever you're attracted to
02:33:22Andrew Wilsonattractiveness right if you're rating physical Beauty from your subjective metric then if you're attracted to some people not others then they're less physically attractive than the people
02:33:31Andrea Johnsonyou're attractive to right no I I know Rihanna is a 10 I know she's perfect but she my typ what is she a 10 to you yes
02:33:41Andrea Johnsonshe's a 10 I'm just she's not my type then why aren't you attracted to her I don't know the universe just made me not attracted to her sexual attraction you got a physical ttin you got a mental
02:33:52Andrew Wilsonttin sexual attraction is different than physical yeah yeah but we're talking about looks yeah we're talking about physical Beauty only that's it so physically is everybody a 10 physically
02:34:02Andrew Wilsonshe's a 10 yeah what okay so if so if that is the case right that you say the physical Beauty she's a 10 but you have
02:34:12Andrew Wilsonno attraction whatsoever right then what would you scale somebody that um I don't know was like a multi ICU burn victim half their tongue hanging out of their mouth right they have a
02:34:24Andrew Wilsonhunchback uh you know the whole top of their face is gone there's bones sticking out they're are they a 10 they're still beautiful is Donald Trump
02:34:33Unknowna 10 Donald Trump's a 10 like just every so is Donald Trump a 10 is he a 10 say it I thought we don't get into politics oh we do get into politics well that's
02:34:46Brian Atlasnot you could [ __ ] Donald Trump we a talk about his you you're um your lesbian if he transitioned to woman would you like [ __ ] uh DT he is not my
02:34:56Brian Atlastype no she excuse me oh she my apologies I miss she would transition he would trans I don't know I would love to see Donald Trump as a woman he could be
02:35:06Brian Atlasdude I I was saying so before he ended his last term I was like like just to stick it to the the libs like just transition to a woman and just be like
02:35:19Mary GraceI'm the first female president like [ __ ] you guys that would have been like a massive W no response that would have been funny
02:35:28Mary Graceis who is lizo a 10 no said yeah no wait go I don't want to
02:35:38Mary Gracelook at I'm sorry like I like no what's wrong with there's nothing wrong with lizo but is she a 10 just but she in my opinion is not a 10 out of 10 on a
02:35:50Andrew Wilsonthe next to you who said everybody's a 10 the G next to you said everybody is beautiful and 10 I'm asking is lizo a 10 she's a 10 to some people you know like what you're saying
02:36:01Tira Hos / Hannah Recard[ __ ] BL and actually I think lizo is gorgeous her Skin's Flawless you know it everyone has 10 qualities everyone has 10 qualities that's true everyone at least has something on them that is a 10 quality whether it's your SK talking
02:36:13Brian Atlasabout physical wait what's the what's the 10 quality on Donald Trump go ahead what's the hair to be the hair is his booty you like his booty don't you I don't think I've
02:36:25Tira Hos / Hannah Recardever like You' want to clap them cheek let me let me think probably he has he has like eyes eyes yeah he has oh he has eyes he's a human dope you don't know what I mean I mean he has nice like
02:36:37Tira Hos / Hannah Recardprobably like probably I I haven't you haven't even seen him pull aot pull up the mug shot pull up the mug shot okay you're we're we're going to pull up a photo of
02:36:48Brian Atlastrump and you're going to say what's a 10 on it get that mug shot going uh W okay guys while we're getting that pulled up guys like the video like the video boys like the video also
02:37:03Brian Atlasum can we pull up Stalin too pull up Stalin are we reading Stalin yeah okay hold on we're going to put find a Wikipedia The Young Stalin I'll
02:37:13Brian AtlasGrant you young Stalin not or No it should be old Stalin because after like the millions of murders and then also pull up uh can we pull up uh who is the
02:37:24Brian AtlasArgentinian dictator uh Fidel Castro huh no that's what's his
02:37:33Brian Atlasname what's his name uh P that's Chile oh that's Chile excuse me oh my God I'm obviously an expert in Latin American
02:37:43Brian AtlasMilitary uh P please excuse me P pull up p Saddam Saddam Hussein oh God Osama bin
02:37:52Brian Atlasoh my God we have pull
02:37:57Brian Atlaspull who Nala Nala and then ma ma ma ma dong ma dong you working on it Damian
02:38:08Brian Atlasand then also um it's gonna be all communist rating tonight can we should we also do like some like more fascist people like musolini let's get musolini in there and
02:38:19Brian Atlasthen also for the coup coup day gr well we got to do Carl Mars then I think the kol day gr cou gr we also got to pull up the H man no no can't do that we can't
02:38:30Unknown Femalepull up H man no yeah don't do it really no I didn't expect to rate a dictator today okay what do we got what do we got
02:38:40Andrew Wilsonwho do we have well I mean it's I want them got a date too you do you have it ready Trump is okay let's go Trump okay go pull them up where's the the mug
02:38:53Tira Hos / Hannah Recardshot oh man what do we got f11 is it f11 all let's get it going no the worst picture I want to say he has some nice eyebrows I what's your you know what his
02:39:03Brian Atlashair looks really soft and it's really blonde he's got a t in hair softness yes his hair looks incredibly soft oh let's not do EP wa oh no Hitler but Epstein's
02:39:14Brian Atlasokay all right I think I think that goes against something right probably Guin against Community guidelines here do p and Stalin we'll leave it there okay you got P do you have stal young
02:39:26Mary GraceStalin look at that oh myness you know what he has he has really good skin he has really good skin he you SM would you smash
02:39:37Tira Hos / Hannah RecardPino who was this P would you smash no you wouldn't smash I thought he was a 10 though I wouldn't smash most people okay you
02:39:46Brian Atlassmash no nobody anybody like what okay whatever your loss he said please um and then Stalin young
02:39:55Brian AtlasStalin do you have young Stalin no give us young Stalin young Stalin quick
02:40:03UnknownDamian H it's okay it's okay it's it's okay yeah it's doing good there we go yeah that's him all right he's a handsome he's a handsome
02:40:15Brian Atlasguy you [ __ ] you [ __ ] right would you fck he has good hair who [ __ ] he a nice hair dude if this guy was alive today he'd be [ __ ] all these [ __ ] Lefty
02:40:27Unknown[ __ ] lip tards he'd [ __ ] all of them he'd be smat sorry am I being that's hilarious no it's true bro he'd be [ __ ] perer he'd be Hassan [ __ ] holy [ __ ] that's true dude he'd be [ __ ]
02:40:38Unknownhalf of twitch bro oh my God okay all right good talk um all right young fan booy Stalin yeah there you go all
02:40:47Andrew Wilsonright anyways good talk okay going back to the whole 10 thing um pull up John Wayne gayy real quick
02:40:56Brian Atlassaying John Wayne Casey do John Wayne casy I do uh I do have
02:41:07Brian Atlasuh a question why is it so difficult for average looking women to admit their average amen I'm you know what I mean no offense
02:41:19Andrew Wilsonthat's horrible I'm not talking about you guys obviously you're all all of you are tens but all the other women out there that are averaged they just I feel a um the whatever podcast has the most beautiful women in the world we have the most
02:41:32Andrew Wilsonbeautiful I know this I know for sure that the whatever podcast has the most beautiful woman in the world cuz all you have to do is ask them yeah we just ask them and they tell us cuz what they say Obviously cuz what they say they're right 100% um
02:41:49Brian Atlaslike uh okay all right so uh here we'll do this and then uh do you think you will be better looking in 10 years time so you're 23 better looking at
02:42:01Unknown Female33 it depends better looking in 10 years time I think so I think so
02:42:11Brian Atlasmaybe oh yeah yeah I think so yeah 20 years time at 43 no okay uh we don't know your age safe to assume mid 20s I think um
02:42:24Brian Atlaswhat was the first one 20 years from now uh no do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time in 10 years time yeah I don't know maybe with a Pilates membership I mean you're pretty fit right I mean I could always be more
02:42:36Tira Hos / Hannah Recardfit okay but then like also 10 years of Aging you know what my the women in my family they age pretty well I'm I'm not concerned huh okay uh 20 years time at
02:42:48Andrew Wilsonalso the women on whatever have the most beautiful female family members as well I just want to point this out the most beautiful graceful aging I this is something I know this because
02:42:58Brian Atlasthey tell them yeah yeah it's true it's true my aunt's gorgeous she was gorgeous up until she was like 90 Flawless skin actually hold on we we do have a message
02:43:09Brian Atlashere from Meet the Kaiser I'd give the hman a solid nine n n n n out of 10 all right thank you Kaiser appreciate it not
02:43:19Brian Atlasa 10 hman doesn't get a 10 unfortunate I guess um better looking in 20 years time I don't know maybe maybe not I
02:43:31Brian Atlasthat's hard to say maybe not 30 years time I mean I think I probably not who knows all right that was an answer um you're 34 better looking in 10 years time at 44 I think
02:43:44Brian AtlasI'll look great at any age I mean so I'll just go ahead and Grant that people can be attractive into their 40s 50s Etc um I suppose the question is though you're 34 currently
02:43:55Brian Atlasdo you think you'll be better looking in comparison in 10 years time I'll look just as attractive okay what about 20 years Time same 30 years
02:44:06Andrew WilsonTime same 40 years time yep 50 years time I'm going to look great until I die what happens what happens the day that you die that makes you less
02:44:17Brian Atlasattractive well what what happens the day you die which would make you less attractive I'll be in the ground so the day you die be I mean maybe not there'll
02:44:29Brian Atlasbe an open casket I guess you well I I hope I'll be cremated oh cremation okay so there no like embalming like do you think you'll be hotter after you're embalmed maybe cuz yeah maybe I you know
02:44:42Brian AtlasI've never thought I'd have to think the whole embalming process they can really work magic they put on some makeup put on on little red so you're you know probably be even more attractive you could be hotter I could be hotter that's
02:44:55Andrew Wilsoncrazy yeah they definitely want you to look your best in the open casket you know that's why they put you in a casket but I want to be cremated my ashes spread wow that's yeah but I mean even if you're created they usually will put
02:45:07Andrew Wilsonyou in a casket and let people come pay their respects and then you get cremated right yeah I don't want that uh you just like oh you croak and then right in the
02:45:16Brian Atlasoven yeah that's it really I want I don't want anything better uh so okay um and wait would you are you a model or what do you do for work again who's the
02:45:28Brian Atlasmodel somebody's the model I don't know I'm in marketing oh you're in marketing okay and then uh you're 34 were you better looking at 24 10 years ago than
02:45:36Andrea Johnsonyou are now at 34 M uh at 24 I was just as goodlook but I would say when I was like a kid I looked rough no I'm talking
02:45:46Brian Atlasabout adult I'm just saying going back 10 years 10 years same same same okay uh you are 23 will you be better looking in
02:45:56Brian Atlas10 years time at 33 I believe so 20 years time at 43 no okay you're 25 do you think you'll be better looking at 10
02:46:03Brian Atlasyears time in 35 yes 20 years time at 45 yes 30 years time at 55 no okay all right uh you're 26 better looking in 10
02:46:15Brian Atlasyears time at 36 yes 20 years time 46 yes 30 years time 56 probably not okay
02:46:22Brian Atlasyou're 25 better looking in 10 years time at 35 yeah 20 years time at 45 no
02:46:33Brian Atlasokay you guys heard of this thing called Aging yeah age backwards um so I question for you so you'll be I think you said did you say better looking or
02:46:44Brian Atlasjust the same you'll be the same at 55 the same are better so if I could wave a magic wand that would uh Advance your outward
02:46:55Brian Atlasappearance 20 years MH and you stay there for 20 years and it doesn't Aid like you don't you're not going to die 20 years sooner you're not going to get cancer 20 years sooner if you were to get cancer uh you're not there's no
02:47:08Brian Atlasgoing to uh there's not any actual Health ramifications strictly your outward physical appearance if we could Advance It Forward 10 years 20 years 30 years those of you here at the table who
02:47:18Brian Atlassay you'll be better looking in 10 years time uh do you take me up on it I think every single one of you said you'll be better looking in 10 years time so do you take me up on advancing your outward
02:47:29Tira Hos / Hannah Recardphysical appearance by 10 years um I would say no and the reason why I said I would look better in 10 years time I'm not I can't speak for anyone else but you know skin care treatments taking
02:47:41Tira Hos / Hannah Recardcare of yourself when I was much younger I didn't wear sunscreen I didn't take care of myself like as far as like makeup in like skin care so I think that putting in effort over time and I'll
02:47:54Tira Hos / Hannah Recardjust have more of my life together at that point so I can afford to maybe look better and put more time what would you do in 10 years time that you aren't currently doing now I don't know like
02:48:04Tira Hos / Hannah Recardmaybe skin resurf treatments or like you know uh chemical peels like more expensive moisturizers I I don't know I
02:48:13Brian Atlasmean your skin looks pretty okay right now granted you are wearing makeup but I don't know maybe it will look like amazing in 10 years who knows we don't
02:48:25Brian Atlasknow what technology we will have well assuming you didn't have access to those interventions does your answer change maybe yeah okay uh what about like four did you say in 20 years time
02:48:37Tira Hos / Hannah Recardtoo 20 30 years I don't remember to be honest but I I don't I don't I don't I don't think I'll look better knows so you just said 10 though yeah I said in
02:48:45Brian Atlas10 years maybe okay um so who who takes the deal I'll do it magic wand Advance your looks 10 years you stay there for
02:48:55Unknown Female10 years and then you just continue with your aging you who here takes it oh see I'm only 23 I want to be in my 20s still right now so no but I mean
02:49:07Andrea Johnsondoesn't everybody want to be better looking personally all of you said you'd be better looking in 10 years time personally I just want to go through all the stages I've seen like photos of my mom and my grandmother and they're 20s
02:49:19Andrea Johnsontheir 30s their 40s and I just think they look beautiful at every stage so I would want to go through that okay I have a well I have a followup on this
02:49:28Brian Atlasum when it comes to like wearing makeup uh why don't if like you look better as you get older why don't women you know there there's makeup that's used in theatrics and film for
02:49:40Brian Atlasexample that can agid you and make you look older uh most women are not employing these kind of makeup techniques to make look older like putting on wrinkles putting on lines this sort of thing why do you think that
02:49:53Andrea Johnsonis if you're going to be more attractive in 10 years time I don't think it's necessarily about like the wrinkles or things like that but for example for me one thing that changed when I got older
02:50:04Andrea Johnsonwas just like my face shape and like having a more full face to like my face thinning out a little bit more and to me that makes me more face thinned out as
02:50:13Brian Atlasyou got older or was older yeah I I don't understand this idea idea like the what you talking about like the baby fat or whatever mhm I mean I think perhaps there's a
02:50:26Brian Atlasdifferential here uh what who got this idea that super sharp features on a woman makes her more attractive Beauty culture yeah but if
02:50:38Brian Atlasyou look at like Asian cultures for example like more rounded features are typically exemplified in these we're in America so our Beauty culture is very different yes even in America though like softer features on women tend to be
02:50:49Brian Atlasdeemed uh well it's not that it's one or the other I think a woman with more sharp features can be very attractive but also a woman with more soft rounded features also very attractive I feel like it's whatever fits their face and if a girl does her makeup wrong that
02:51:01Unknown Femalewill fit their face wrong like if you do sharp makeup you're supposed to do soft like you're supposed to do soft but it's it's girl thing I
02:51:09Brian Atlasguess I suppose if the trade-off is my I lose some of the fat in my face but all the other correspond things that come with a I I don't know if that that