WILDEST SHOW EVER?! HEATED Debate With SUPER Woke Liberal Feminist LA Girls?! | Dating Talk #213
Date: 2024-11-18
Duration: 10h 19m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_02Toni J(guest)
SPEAKER_03Andrea Johnson(guest)
SPEAKER_05Mary Grace(guest)
SPEAKER_06Eric Hutchins(guest)
SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_08Sinead Barrett(guest)
SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_12Unknown Female(guest)
SPEAKER_13Tira Hos / Hannah Recard(guest)
SPEAKER_14Kayla Hardy(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:09
QuoteBrian Atlas opening announcement.
“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast”
00:04:11
IntroTira Hos intro: 23, Ohio, mental health advocate/waitress.
“hi I am Tira hos 23 years old from Ohio mental health Advocate on TikTok also a waitress”
00:04:21
IntroHannah Recard intro: actress/model, LA, declines to give age per agent advice.
“hi my name is Hannah recard I am an actor by occupation I prefer not to answer my age”
00:06:21
IntroAndrea Johnson intro: 34, Southern California, marketing director.
“my name is Andrea Johnson I am 34 from Southern California I am a marketing director”
00:06:33
IntroMary Grace Langhorn intro: 23, Santa Barbara, surgical assistant.
“I am Mary Grace Langhorn 23 from Santa Barbara California surgical assistant”
00:07:04
IntroKayla Hardy intro: 25, Malibu, fashion model.
“I am Kayla Hardy 25 in Malibu fashion model”
00:07:15
IntroToni J intro: 26, LA, singer-songwriter and actress.
“my name is Toni J 26 singer songwriter and actress from LA”
00:07:26
IntroSinead Barrett intro: 25, Ohio, waitress/barista, nutrition student.
“my name is Sinead Barrett waitress and barista two jobs also studying for bachelor in Nutrition”
00:07:49
IntroEric Hutchins (ilosophical) intro: 39, Newark NJ/Charlotte NC, construction mgr and content creator.
“my name is Eric Hutchins AKA ilosophical YouTube Instagram social commentary full-time construction project manager”
00:08:30
IntroAndrew Wilson intro: host of The Crucible, political analyst and satirist.
“my name is Andrew Wilson host of The Crucible entertainment Channel YouTube political analyst”
00:26:04
QuoteMary Grace describes her last relationship ending due to boyfriend violating criminal restraining order; his mother is threatening to sue her for rent.
“she had an active restraining order against him so that was a threat and I didnt know this until I moved so she ended up reporting it to his probation officer”
00:30:58
QuoteToni J reveals she is a widow; husband passed away around 2021; first date since widowhood was the day before this episode.
“he actually passed away you are a widow then correct yes okay were you married I was”
01:34:24
QuoteKayla reads Reddit post about girlfriend who slept with a Tinder hookup while telling the poster she wanted to take it slow.
“recently Jess and I ran into a guy... I thought you should know that Jess and I hooked up right after Christmas”
02:30:25
ControversySelf-rating round. Panel rates looks 1-10. Andrea insists everyone is a 10. Brian rates himself 10 sarcastically. Approximate ratings: 7 (Tira), 8 (Sinead), 10 (someone), 5 (Brian joke), 9 (Toni), 9 (someone), 7 (someone), 5-6 (Kayla), 8 (Eric?), 5 (Andrew), 10 (Brian sarcastic).
“ask everyone to rate their own looks on the scale of one to 10 seven eight ten five nine nine seven five or a six strong eight give myself a five”
03:10:12
ControversyMan vs. bear debate. Most women initially chose bear over a random spawned man in the forest. Reasons: fear of assault/rape. Brian and Andrew challenge the statistics.
“I said man but I changed my answer to Bear I say pick bear because humans sometimes are unpredictable”
03:12:30
QuoteHannah says a man could take away her dignity AND kill her; a bear would only kill her. Justifies picking bear.
“a man could potentially take away my dignity and then kill me whereas bear will just kill me”
04:34:00
ControversyBrian presents top-20 most dangerous US jobs infographic (94-99.9% male). Argues societal collapse if all men vanished. Hannah argues women are increasingly entering these fields.
“top 20 most dangerous us occupations logging workers 95 percent male fishing workers 99.9 percent”
09:27:00
ControversyTransgender debate: Hannah says she would allow puberty blockers for child after 2-year consistent request plus doctor recommendation. Brian and Eric argue this is effectively irreversible and parents should just say no.
“I would start them if after 2 years still felt the same exact way I would allow them to take a low dose of something”
10:17:06
OtherBrian wraps show calling it one of the best panels in a long time. WoW raid outro to streamer ampy.
“this is one of the wildest panels it was good really interesting conversation one of the best panels we had in a very long time”
Topics Discussed
00:00:07
Announcements & Introductions
Brian announcements (WoW Classic Fresh guild, merch, Discord, Twitch, donations). Guest introductions: name, age, location, occupation. Educational background round. Relationship status round.
00:28:00
React: Eric's Viral Clip (Women & Assertive Men)
Panel reacts to Eric Hutchins' viral clip about women claiming to want assertive men but choosing passive men. Debate on women dressing provocatively vs. modestly. Traditional values vs. modern liberation. Eric argues women's behavior is contradictory to stated preferences.
01:34:24
Reddit: Girlfriend Slept With Tinder Date While "Taking It Slow"
Kayla reads Reddit post: man's girlfriend hooked up with Tinder guy while telling him she wanted to "take it slow" physically. Panel debates pre-exclusivity obligations, moral duty to disclose, and whether the woman's behavior was valid. Andrew argues STD-disclosure analogy; Eric says the man was "green" and naive.
02:30:25
Self-Rating Round (1-10 Looks)
Viewer question asks panel to rate their own looks 1-10. Ratings given (order approximate due to diarization): 7, 8, 10, 5, 9, 9, 7, 5-6, 8, 5 (Andrew), 10 (Brian, sarcastic). Spirals into debate over whether everyone is a 10 (Andrea's position) and rating dictators/celebrities for attraction.
03:10:12
Man vs. Bear Debate
Classic internet debate: if you were alone in a forest, would you rather encounter a random man or a random bear? Most female panelists initially picked bear; reasoning cited: men's unpredictability, fear of assault. Brian and Andrew challenge the statistical reality (% of men who would actually assault). Hannah estimated 40% of men; others 15-20% or 2%. Mary Grace switched to man.
03:40:00
Body Count, Purity, and Double Standards
Extended debate on body count standards for men vs. women. Whether high body count changes a woman psychologically. Double standard discussion: why is male promiscuity more accepted? Debate on women wanting a "redemption arc" at 30 after years of casual sex. Eric argues prior relationships reveal what a woman defines as manhood.
04:34:00
Men in Critical Infrastructure / "What If All Men Disappeared"
Brian pulls up infographic of top 20 most dangerous US occupations (logging 95% male, mining 99.9% male, etc.). Argues society would collapse within weeks if all men disappeared due to male concentration in critical infrastructure. Panel pushes back. Eric and Andrew support the argument. Hannah argues women are increasingly entering these fields.
07:45:00
Age Gap Relationships
Prompted by Kayla's disclosure that her boyfriend is 15 years older. Panel debates whether large age gaps are acceptable. Kayla defends her 3-year relationship with a 40yo (she is 25). Brian challenges the dynamic at ~7:54 ("vulnerable college girl").
08:07:00
Women's Rights Equal to Men?
Panel survey question: do women have equal rights to men? Andrea and Hannah disagreed. Both clarified they meant globally, not specifically USA. Brian challenges them to name a specific US right men have that women don't — neither could name one clearly. Brian raises toplessness in public as a minor asymmetry.
09:27:00
Transgender / Puberty Blockers Debate
Debate on whether trans-identifying children should receive puberty blockers. Hannah says she would allow her 14-year-old to start blockers after 2 years of consistent request + doctor recommendation. Brian and Eric argue blockers are not reversible in meaningful ways and compares to getting a tattoo. Hannah takes back the tattoo comparison. Eric and Brian argue parents should use authority ("because I said so").
Transcript
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03:47:46
Brian Atlasdon't agree with that study then let's find another one that says what the percentage is there's the doj statistics Daman can you try to find the doj statistics but okay how about this uh a
03:47:56
Brian Atlaswoman has cons there's no alcohol involved a woman has consensual sex she regrets it the next day is this essay no okay but I mean it
03:48:09
Brian Atlashappens but it happens I want say a lot of things happen doesn't make it right but that happens more than often does but that's a whole and actually this this affects African-American men at higher rates at very high rates because
03:48:22
Eric Hutchinsthere's like this racial component that's the roie weight was based on a lie uh who was EMT till EMT till don't get me started yeah we can go on and on that's why I said we speak from a
03:48:34
Eric Hutchinsprivileged position we speak from a privileged position everybody has a different reality so you can get away with something that another person would wouldn't is going to affect them they might have the legal fee they might have
03:48:45
Eric Hutchinsthe means to combat these assumed negative emotions and actions of men as opposed to another man like right now for example I don't know um um his his income but I'm assuming he makes more
03:48:55
Eric Hutchinsthan me he might can get out of a situation like that quicker than I can based on the words of a woman so when we just speak these General like oh no it's just like this no it's not just like that it's very Nuance but it seems like
03:49:07
Eric Hutchinswe only show Nuance for the woman side and not from the man's side like we have to be real about this thing is people take these these topics from these podcasts and they run with it in real life and people's lives really get
03:49:18
Eric Hutchinsjeopardized especially men like the roie Wade thing that was based on a white woman blaming a and I want to make it racial but y'all brought it up wait roie what the the the the rape the um roie um the abortion thing that was the original
03:49:31
Eric Hutchinsif I'm not mistaken the original crime was a white woman blaming a black man saying he sa her and from that she got impregnated and and because of
03:49:42
Eric Hutchinsthat it's a privacy it's more anything about privacy it was a it was a lie the woman who the the the the crime that caused that law to come in to be implemented was a woman who lied on a
03:49:53
Eric Hutchinsblack man who was never essayed by him and that they took that story and made um abortions legal because of that lie that's a fact I think it was a documentary that
03:50:05
Eric Hutchinsthey made on it off um what's that that show what's the um Candace Candace Owens is on the network it got um I don't Bill W Matt wassh is on it too they did a whole documentary about
03:50:16
Eric Hutchinsit they did a whole documentary about roie Wade it was based on a lie I another details the network is the daily wire the daily wire yep they did a documentary on it I and they was talking
03:50:28
Eric Hutchinsabout how that I believe that situation was based on a woman who accused a a man of of saying her and he didn't even do it and he happened to be a black man I want to know how his life
03:50:38
Brian Atlaswent okay this just took a l here I'll move things on here short shortly uh I I guess really quick um
03:50:48
Brian Atlasthose of you you said 20% you said 15 15 to 20 um does this also apply to like your family members like cousins Etc so like one in five of all your family
03:50:59
Unknown Femalemembers I mean I was taught by my dad to protect myself from men so I mean so Tech yeah but like are you willing to throw like one out of five of your like blood under the water and say like one
03:51:09
Brian Atlasin five of your male family members are like inclined to essay a woman yes yeah in fact I know for a fact that some of them have okay well it is look it does happen
03:51:21
Toni Jin families actually happens more I mean are you asking it happens more in than just random people on the street like typically it's somebody that you know or
03:51:32
Unknown Femalesomebody that I say it's somebody's friend it's somebody's son it's somebody's dad like yeah but so I guess final thing here on the bare thing so I
03:51:43
Andrew Wilsonkind of is the position that oh wait so wait it mostly doesn't happen by strangers it mostly happens it mostly doesn't happen by strangers wouldn't that be a a strike against your logic of
03:51:55
Andrew Wilsonthinking that respond responding randomly with a stranger in the woods wouldn't that significantly lessen the idea how many women are alone in the woods just like how many women on average just
03:52:08
Andrew Wilsonspawn into the woods like it's a hypothetical situation yeah I know but hypothetical situations are designed TR to test your logic that's why we make them up right we make them up to see if we can determine what is true and what
03:52:19
Andrew Wilsonis not true and if we're using um logic and reason in order to make determinations uh about things or if we're just using pure emotion or something like that so I have no doubt
03:52:29
Andrew Wilsonthat you feel that this is true right and and there's many things I feel are true but the reason we use hypothetical is to test if the feeling makes any sense and so if the idea is once we get
03:52:42
Andrew Wilsoninto the nitty-gritty wait a second almost you you all agree it's it's mostly somebody you know who would do something like this wouldn't that be a strike against the idea that's spawning with a random stranger in the in the
03:52:53
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardmiddle of the woods you would actually be less likely than you would even with somebody you knew good point not necessar say that the chances are just higher in general no matter who you're around the reason why it's usually higher with people who you know is
03:53:06
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardbecause they can have you in a compromising position like watching you while your parents are gone like something where you're alone where you're isolated that's why it's typically someone we're talking about adult women here adult women this type
03:53:17
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardof thing even adult women are still can still be when you're isolated and when you're alone and if you're in are still more likely adult women are still more likely to be ased by people they know
03:53:28
Andrew Wilsonright but most of the time the people that they know are not are are people like um you know male friends of theirs you know things like this uh those are the people who are who and yes it is
03:53:40
Andrew Wilsontrue they're in a compromising position but it seems like um you it's this intimate knowledge you have with this person that makes them feel like this is in some way appropriate or that they can get away
03:53:52
Andrew Wilsonwith it or this kind of thing do you think if you respond with a random stranger in the middle of a forest that you guys would have way bigger things to worry about then whether or not you know he wants to just
03:54:03
Kayla Hardylike attack you you know and and and um you know and that it just seems kind of silly right maybe it's also a perspective from people on the streets strangers on the streets come approach
03:54:14
Mary Graceus and stuff too it makes no logical sense to choose a bear over a [ __ ] stranger in the [ __ ] Woods it makes no logical sense to choose a bear
03:54:28
Mary Gracestatistically biologically like absolutely none we are running ourselves in circles and it's like we are
03:54:37
Mary Graceemotionally like politicizing the emotion and the feeling of of course we're not saying like yeah sa [ __ ] happens and it sucks and the statistics
03:54:47
Mary Graceit is real that is real that does not devalidate that point at all logistically statistically for the fact
03:54:55
Mary Graceof the argument a bear or a man the odds of survival immediate survival you would
03:55:03
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardchoose a random man I would not I would that makes no logical sense to me I grew up in R Arizona and I've been around bearss seen Bears I used to go camping
03:55:16
Brian Atlasall the time I feel very comfortable in I it just depends on your exp an opinion we'll explore all this really quick pull up the meme get the meme going uh okay
03:55:25
Brian Atlasso brown bear up to 9 ft tall up to 1300 lb claw 4 in by force 1,200 PSI Pelt for 5 in speed 35 mil hour Kyle 510 174 PBS project engineer said hi to you at the
03:55:38
Brian Atlasgym so like look again yes there's some percentage of men that would victimize you terribly but like you have to attribute such a large percentage if
03:55:49
Andrea Johnsonyou're doing a risk assessment of like yeah I'm gonna pick a bear over a man like your risk assessment is flawed the question wasn't about logic
03:55:59
Andrea Johnsonlogically AAL wait let me finish let me finish the pain that someone might feel after being ESS is going to stay with them for the
03:56:10
Andrea Johnsonrest of their life but a guarantee it's not a guarantee it's not a guarantee but what you say 2% you said it's a 2% be the bear from from my experience the bear is probably going to
03:56:23
Eric Hutchinsdo one of two things it's going to probably like eat me or it's going to leave me alone it's just going to and just eat you later go away not e you later just I like you I don't know what y
03:56:34
Eric Hutchinstalking about I don't know what y talking about how many bears have you listen I don't want to en counter them I'd rather deal with a person than a damn rabag bear this sounds guarante to
03:56:44
Eric Hutchinsand a man ain't guaranteed to just take your Womanhood and right so that's why this question there is both sides to it it sounds good it sounds real good we live in a world where your feelings
03:56:56
Eric Hutchinsmatter more than logic but she said it herself it's not even about logic so if it ain't about logic don't make sense cuz there's nothing in your life that logic can be missing and you can succeed from it so let's cut it out and be grown up in here I think people are just doing
03:57:09
Andrew Wilsonit based off experience just based off experience uh very quickly that Arizona only has one species of bear black bears and
03:57:19
Andrew Wilsonthere's only about 2,000 of them in the entire state so there there probably the likelihood they came across too many probably isn't High unless you were going to like a bear Reserve or something it which I have been before
03:57:30
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardand also I've been I I I have been immersed in Wildlife from the time that I could like walk so I feel very comfortable with animals that's my personal opinion and that's based off of
03:57:43
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardmy experience growing up around animals I had a mountain lion in my clubhouse as a kid because I grew up on 5 acres and I felt very safe just watching it from from my
03:57:55
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardfence with binoculars I was about 10 ft away from it my parents didn't see anything wrong with that and they let me do that and I feel comfortable with that I let
03:58:07
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardher name is Dancing with mountain lions dancing with mountain Li what I'm saying is I personally this is my opinion I feel like more comfortable with that than I would a random man who I don't
03:58:19
Eric Hutchinsknow anything about okay but he can at least can I can I say one more thing go ahead goe at least the man there is a potential this is this cuz I I view is
03:58:30
Eric Hutchinsyour view but the fact that you're ignoring the ultimate potential of a human interaction over a ravaging beast it wasn't ignored hold on sweetheart
03:58:40
Eric Hutchinshold I understand I was IGN got it you got it hold on the fact that you ignoring the potential it wasn't IGN my you triggered
03:58:52
Eric HutchinsI get it I got you I know you're mad you got it you got it you the fact that you're ignoring the potential for a human
03:59:01
Eric Hutchinsinteraction over a ravaging beast shows the lack of logic and the assumed uh negativity of men by most women you
03:59:11
Eric Hutchinsreally think if you move that fence and you that mountain lion chill for a week he won't attack you like you you don't even you can't even the fact that you're not even assuming that maybe I can talk
03:59:22
Eric Hutchinsto this man you can't communicate to that bear at all I don't care how many times you FedEd some crackers or something he will hurt you at a higher rate than a human being but the fact that you're just denying the fact that
03:59:34
Eric Hutchinsmaybe I can talk to this person maybe I can communicate you just denying all of that You' talked to way more human men than you've ever talked to lions and bears oh my in your life and you're just going to ignore that you're going to ignore the fact you had that cool guy
03:59:47
Eric Hutchinsyou went to school with your cool Uncle your cool brother the cool guy at the store the guy that helped you get the gas that time you ignoring all of those scenarios of positive men for that small list of negative men as opposed to a a
04:00:00
Eric Hutchins[ __ ] bear just shows to the lack of logic of the Modern Woman Like You Could you can make all the excuses you want but the [ __ ] don't make no damn thank you for assuming that it was ignored but it was not it was not ignored and also sh sound
04:00:12
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardcrazyc goad sounds crazy okay well that's your opinion um is it sexist are you guys willing to admit that your position is sexist against men sexist
04:00:23
Brian Atlasagainst men yeah I think that my can you not be sexist towards men no you can be sexist towards men is it sexist I wouldn't say it is because it's based off of experience okay let me let me follow up with you on that so let's say
04:00:36
Brian Atlaswe replace man with uh let's let's do uh black person does this question become racist like if if you were to answer I'd
04:00:48
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardrather pick a bear over a black person is it a black girl because I'd pick the black girl absolutely it's just a random black person so it could be it doesn't matter their race if it is a man I will choose the bear if it is a woman it is
04:01:00
Brian Atlasyou can say that you can say that if you want because a woman woman but so let's say somebody let's say somebody picked uh the bear over black
04:01:09
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardperson is it is it racist no is it is I'm but but is it
04:01:20
Brian Atlasracist I that's not off of my experience I don't feel that way and I'm not part of the okay here let let me explain it a little bit um so let's say somebody I got a better I got a better way to let
04:01:31
Brian Atlasme let me just ask it and then I'll pass it to you Andrew so I think that would be Prejudice more than racist semantics that's it's that's semantics it's same
04:01:40
Brian Atlas[ __ ] okay different so let's say no so somebody let's say uh a white girl had a had three bad experiences with three
04:01:50
Brian Atlasdifferent black men and for this reason she doesn't want to she'd pick the bear over the black man is it
04:02:00
Brian Atlasracist because of her past experiences with black men and she says I don't care even if it even if cuz you said earlier even if it's a 1% chance I still pick
04:02:12
Brian Atlasthe bear over the man but it was still a man that she picked versus what hold on I mean it was still a bear that okay she had one she had two bad experiences with a black man and two bad experiences of a
04:02:23
Brian Atlasblack woman and collectively she's deciding I don't uh I pick the bear over the the black person because I've had prior bad experience with black people is it racist no I
04:02:35
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthink it would be racist if if it was a white man versus a black
04:02:41
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardman that if we're talking about race here here that that that would be a more parallel situation because a man you two people no if you put two people in a forced if we're saying instead if we if
04:02:53
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwe swapped out the bear if we wanted to make this really even it would be racist if it was a white man in the forest versus a black man in the forest and she said she picked the white over that for
04:03:04
Eric Hutchinsthat reason for that logic but still picking a bear over a man I no it's not a man it's a black person well you said black man a black person no I think question you're trying to ask is if we took your logic and appli that to other
04:03:16
Eric Hutchinsthings it would make no damn sense so back to what I was saying real quick I just think that it just wouldn't make no sense what's being shown is ladies and gentlemen because I can't convince nobody here people out there in YouTube
04:03:28
Eric Hutchinsstreamyard land this is why men are leaving because women are on board with each other despite logic and science it's all about women women women women
04:03:40
Eric Hutchinsit doesn't have to make sense it doesn't have to have any logic it's women overall and women who feel like that are not making it better for other women coming up because men want to be with
04:03:51
Eric Hutchinswomen despite what it looks like despite all the statistics we do love you we do want to be with you but if you have this mentality is going to make men remove thems from you in all areas and I hate
04:04:02
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardto bust your bubble ladies you need us excuse me you do you do need us there is a male loneliness epidemic that's going on but that is not same Fales yeah women
04:04:14
Andrew Wilsonwomen but men are violent when they're in cells women over like you can pull up the exact statistic cuz it is I I have it in front of me but the the female loneliness epidemic is almost on par
04:04:26
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwith the male they report being lonely at almost the exact same race people alone yes but what I'm saying is women who are over a certain age who are childless who are not in a relationship report to have the there it's it's on
04:04:40
Andrew Wilsonthe internet I'm sure I don't have my phone so I can't look up the exact thing but I'm sure they report having heavier amounts of mental health issues they report having heavier amounts of dissatisfaction they report having heavier amounts I think we're reading very different surveys
04:04:53
Andrew Wilsonwell well I don't think so what you're talking about is an article uh what I'm talking about is the actual data which is backing this up not an article which then Min the data but this isn't just for for women right this is men as well
04:05:06
Andrew Wilsonwhen they get in their 30s or 40s and they're childless or don't have a family they also report uh much higher dissatisfaction rates higher higher frames of mental illness they make less money they have less incentives they have Les less motivations basically
04:05:18
Andrew Wilsonpeople need each other right that's uh that's the general motivation if you were to look if you were to look at this though I'd have to have to ask you this I was listening to what you were saying and I thought it made sense you but you said the thing that validates it is
04:05:31
Andrew Wilsonexperience and because it's experience it's not really sexist um the thing that gets me with that is like what if an employer was a man and he didn't want to ever hire women because he'd had really bad EXP
04:05:43
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardexperiences with him that couldn't be sexist right by that same logic could it and let her answer let her answer that couldn't be sex what were the experiences were were all of the women
04:05:55
Andrew Wilsonin his life Rap Made false let's say several of them made false allegations and several of them underperformed and several of them did that they had but he had nothing but negative experiences
04:06:06
Andrew Wilsonwith them and since he since that is what informed him in his hiring practices and that was his experience isn't he then justified in not hiring them and wouldn't it not be sexist then
04:06:18
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardbecause it's based on experience so I'm going to have two parts and I would like if everyone could allow me to finish all the way before interrupting thank you yeah sure goe um what I would say about
04:06:29
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthat is it is sexist because we're talking about pay and underperforming is not the same as being essayed as someone who we're not talking about pay yeah
04:06:40
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwe're just talking about hiring yeah hiring you're if you're Hing someone you're hiring them to pay them for a job that you're hiring them for mhm that has nothing to do with your relationship you don't have to date them you don't have
04:06:53
Kayla Hardyto spend time with them you don't have to date the man you don't have to do anything you don't have to do anything with the man of the forest but aren't you saying that they would be skeptical going into hiring woman why wouldn't be skeptical going into that I'm just
04:07:05
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardtelling it's the same same logic that's what same logic appli so what I'm saying though is from personal experience what I was explaining from personal
04:07:15
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardexperience as someone who has been essayed I would rather take my own life than have that happen again and what I'm saying is there is nothing worse for me
04:07:27
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardin my opinion my this is my opinion there is nothing that someone can do worse to you than that I'm not disputing any of so what I'm saying is underperforming and having the worst
04:07:40
Andrew Wilsonthing done to you cannot even be equated in the situation okay wait let's well let's back up though because I understand exactly what you're saying it it makes total sense to me this is the most horrific thing you could ever think
04:07:51
Andrew Wilsonof and so you're going to select against that thing because this thing happening to you again you'd rather anything else including getting eaten by a bear happened than the thing I completely understand that the question is not whether or not saay is really really bad
04:08:04
Andrew Wilsonand you had a traumatic experience with it though the question is is that is sexist regardless of how it's in formed you said no it's not sexist because that is my experience and it's like okay then
04:08:17
Andrew Wilsonif it's not sexist because it's your experience then a man who was falsely accus of ESS uh in his hiring in his hiring practice let's say would be completely Justified never hiring a
04:08:28
Andrew Wilsonwoman Again by the same logic because he says this the worst thing heang on hang on I'm almost done I just let you finish he can use the same logic he could say I'd rather this the worst thing that's ever happened to me nothing wor I can
04:08:41
Andrew Wilsonnever imagine anything worse than this i' rather anything happen than this again so he refuses to hire a woman that's totally justified based on his experience the same logic back to you yes yes if that is the situation
04:08:54
Andrew Wilsoninitially you said underperforming and you listed a couple not sexist so then he's not being sexist if we're talking about that then yeah that wouldn't be sexist yeah right so then any man who's ever had a false allegation against him
04:09:06
Andrew Wilsonright and then refuses to hire women after that because of that false allegation you think that's totally valid I think that's valid yes why put sexist right yeah don't put yourself in
04:09:16
Andrew Wilsonthat situation then if I gave you a list of men who that's happened to right um like well I I I can name a but the thing is the point is is that if I gave you a
04:09:27
Andrew Wilsonlist of like Fortune 500 company executive CEOs who said that they want to Advocate a policy that no more women get hired by their company because such a think did happen to them are they
04:09:39
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardworking with never say that that was sexist right well that's different if it's if they're CEOs and they're completely detached from ever interacting with any of those women I said it wouldn't be sexist for them to
04:09:51
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardnot want to work with those women no that's not what you said but work have those when I'm thinking I'm thinking of like a restaurant owner I'm thinking of you know someone who has to have someone they're hiring women and those women are
04:10:03
Tira Hos / Hannah Recarddirectly working with them that's what I envisioned when you said women work for them and hiring women and because they're interacting with them and they don't want that I would assume that based on what you
04:10:15
Andrew Wilsontold me your experien is being anywhere near a situation which could potentially lead to that which is what we're talking about spawning into a forest with a random man or a random Bear right just
04:10:27
Andrew Wilsonthe fact you said if it's even one percent that you would not choose that the CEO of the company is saying the same thing if it's even 1% even though I'm detached from these
04:10:38
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardpeople I'm definitely not going to hire them the same exact logic same because if you're the CEO there is not even a 1% chance that you're going to interact with those people you're not going you're not
04:10:49
Andrew Wilsongoing it's even meaning if it was less than that you still wouldn't take it you said if it's anything if it's any percentile if there's any chance here I'll going to prove it to you I'll prove
04:10:58
Andrew Wilsonit to you do you think statistically that a woman can accuse you of saay easier if you hire them or if you don't
04:11:08
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardhire them if so if Jeff Bezos hired me and then I accused him of that after never meeting him I think it would be just as invalid if I was not hired by
04:11:19
Andrew Wilsonhim actually I think it would be more invalid because then it's like yeah but the whole point here is the disassociation the idea here is this it's not whether or not the chances would be unlikely for both just which
04:11:31
Andrew Wilsonthing there'd be a higher chance for in this case of course the chance would be higher that if a woman doesn't in any way or any capacity have anything to do with your company or you her chance of accusing you of sa significantly go down
04:11:42
Andrew Wilsonversus verus her being closer to you so if that's the case same logic as if there was any percentage at all that this could ever happen to me I'm choosing the bear and that's totally appropriate and not sexist and the
04:11:54
Andrew Wilsonreason it's not sexist is because it comes from a place of experience that would be the same thing for a CEO can I chime in so to be sexist to be R I like her to just finish real quick I'm we're almost done almost done with the exchange I would just like to finish it
04:12:07
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardreal quick can you just can you speak to that real quick because it's the same logic that's why I don't understand I think that it's not the same logic only for the reason that you are physically
04:12:17
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardin the company of one and the CEO is not physically in the company or physically in danger of being in a compromising
04:12:26
Andrew Wilsonposition with one of their 12,000 you know 60,000 employees whatever crazy number they you said if there's any percentage if there but there wouldn't be a percentage if they
04:12:39
Andrew Wilsonnever interacted with them you would never do it they would never interact so Brian asked you this he asked you he said if the chances were and he gave you a low say he said if there's any chance if it's even 1% if it's less than that
04:12:52
Andrew Wilsonthere's any chance at all that this could happen to you then no you're not doing it and you're picking the bear because this is the worst thing that could ever happened to you the CEO was falsely accused okay if he was falsely
04:13:03
Andrew Wilsonaccused even once and then says I'll never hire a woman again be just because there could be a chance and this is the worst thing has ever happened it's the same thing you just said okay well if
04:13:14
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwe're going by that logic then sure he doesn't have to hire any woman on uh for the company with the bare situation I said that even if it was 1% chance I
04:13:27
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwould choose dying and not getting assade over that 1% chance my My Punishment or my penalty for taking that
04:13:37
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardis death his penalty for not hiring any woman is probably getting boycotted so yeah you can do anything you want technically we're all born with free
04:13:47
Brian Atlaswill but hold on I I do have to let a couple things come through here burmes Mountain tiger gifted 50 Subs by the way
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Andrew Wilsonburmes I think I have uh oh did I I think you have a custom thing here let me just check one sec here Brian I got out I got a flight I got to catch in
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Andrew Wilsonthe morning oh I thought you could stay until uh it's midnight my time yeah oh your time hold on y oh shoot okay oh yeah okay all right um sorry about that
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Andrew WilsonI gotta gotta fly out tomorrow you want to wrap up did you want to wrap up on anything or do you just have a heart out yeah I do have a heart out I got to get lit four hours and do this guys very nice to meet you I really enjoyed the
04:14:32
Andrew Wilsonspirited discussion Andrew thank you so much man by yeah it was very nice to meet all of you uh in YouTu sir I hope you uh enjoy yeah I hope you guys enjoy the rest of your evening take care yeah shoot us a ra Andrew thank you for uh
04:14:44
Brian Atlastuning in then uh good luck with the uh the timcast thing or whatever all right man uh okay uh hold on I got to let a couple things come through then we'll come back to the conversation burmes Mountain
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Brian Atlastiger gifted 100 Subs on uh on Twitch dude thank you so much man you're a [ __ ] Legend uh Kendall Sanders became a member and then
04:15:10
Brian Atlasuh let's see here we had this one that already came through through we have a couple chats that came through uh I have to read something from uh Andrew if you're still
04:15:22
Brian Atlaslistening oh he left okay well millionaire Bachelor he I'm not going to read your full message but uh Andrew your hit piece was weak as
04:15:32
Brian Atlas[ __ ] that's all I'll read for that uh millionaire so okay um and then we have three from Lucas this C this these came in a while ago so it's about I think or wait hold on
04:15:43
Brian Atlaslet's see Lucas I was on the subway NYC Subway heading to work the other day young woman was attacked not a single man even looked up to see what was going on let let alone help a man is in his
04:15:55
Brian Atlaslate 20 20s standing next to me and then he says by the way Lucas thank you so much for the messages appreciate it uh turned to me and said
04:16:06
Brian Atlaslooks like that bears got to save her congratulations ladies you reap what you seow with the exception of my daughter wife and mother you can literally be on fire in front hold on and then there's
04:16:18
Brian Atlasanother one looks like the Bear's got a save her hey man chivalry is dead and the bear killed it right uh okay burning
04:16:26
Brian Atlastoo crisp and I wouldn't even piss on you he's so upset uh wait where is wouldn't even piss on you to save your life your widespread implicit vilification of men is abhorent you're a
04:16:39
Unknown Femalebunch of snot-nosed delusionally entitled ingrates you see I was going to ask and say that I changed my opinion with all the facts but that was yeah
04:16:48
Unknown Femaleyou're all it takes you're on% it's all over cuz one guy just kind of just uh but I do change my answer because you guys fact checked it and I'm not going to sit here and be like well I'm this no I'm listening to
04:17:00
Unknown Femaleyour facts and I respect that that's all we want we that's all just don't fight logic punch yourself how I see it as it is it's a people problem it's not a women or men problem it's a people problem women can do it men can we're
04:17:13
Eric Hutchinsall doing it to each other we should do it thank you cuz the point is this right here we should be trying to come together to some degree this these conversations and the top this this logic we have it only brings separation
04:17:24
Eric Hutchinsbecause eventually men are just going to say you got it and you might find yourself in a situation where you might need a random man's help but why would a random man help you when you say the things you say so hey uh men have created this luxury where it created a
04:17:37
Eric Hutchinsworld where women have the luxury to even critique men in these ways but men even created that about being provocative and wearing they do but that's and how that's not your preference and stuff but what's wrong
04:17:49
Kayla Hardywith what that got to do with picking a bear over a man no I'm just saying that you were saying stuff about that so why can't we have our opinions about things that happen you can have an opinion but
04:18:00
Eric HutchinsI'm talking about logic what I'm saying is you dress in a certain way online based on women's complaints it's I hear women saying where's the guys at so I'm
04:18:10
Eric Hutchinsaddressing a PL a grip that you have if that's your gripe dress up I don't hear men complaining about being picked over a bear so it's not that's not an issue we're having women are having issues with meeting good guys meeting high
04:18:23
Eric Hutchinsquality guys or maybe not you women but a lot of women have that issue so it's like maybe you should dress a little different maybe you should be a little more reserved maybe you should be a little more modest to fit your complaint men are not complaining about being
04:18:35
Eric Hutchinspicked over a bear like this this is the scenario that women are saying so I'm just dealing with the logic this it's logic in picking telling a woman to cover herself up whether I'm in her life or not that's good advice whether she got a man in her life or not but also
04:18:48
Sinead Barrettlike when women dress like that they get more attention from men so then that kind of confuses women we both be pointing fingers at each other we both do the part it's all it's both sides
04:18:58
Sinead Barrettlike we constantly point fingers you know people buy or guys buy porn but we also provide the porn you know only fans and stuff like that but yeah yeah um okay a couple things here to wrap up
04:19:10
Brian Atlashere on the whole man vers bear thing thing um let's see where do I hold on
04:19:18
Brian Atlashave any of you have had the one night stand no never in yes it's just confusing to me this whole like bear thing it's like the same women who will
04:19:29
Unknown Femalelike go out have a one night stand but you pick the bear I I don't know that's confusing what does that have to do with the bear what it cuz iess you're literally putting yourself alone in a room you put yourself in a
04:19:42
Brian Atlasroom with The Stranger so like that's the same scenario I guess it's like the same exact scenario but okay how about this couple questions here um a couple different twists on the uh Man versus
04:19:52
Brian Atlasbear thing uh let's see where is it hold on um it's uh a gay man does that change anything if it's if he's gay yes if I
04:20:05
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardknow that he if I know he's gay and he will not hurt me in that way then absolutely pick what about trans woman uh what does that have to do with anything well it's male she's m or they
04:20:16
Brian AtlasI don't she's a she she's a she but biologically a male but male if someone has that appendage there is a penis there's the penis but it's a trans woman with a penis what is their sexual
04:20:29
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardorientation when it comes to wanting to have sex with women so would they want to have sex with women yes but he still got that thing got the I feel like they're random you just no that would
04:20:40
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardmake them wait if man this is where we're all
04:20:48
Toni Jgoing it should your answer should be the same your should be the same even if they are gay it should be the same but I I get where you're trying to go with
04:20:59
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardokay fine lesbian transwoman as long as they're sexually attracted to me in any way in any capacity then you don't know you don't know but it's it's a lesbian trans woman wait so they still have to
04:21:12
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardtalkop still have a penis penis still there but they're but you're saying that they would identify at that point as straight no they still have identifies as a woman
04:21:23
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardbut so they would identify as gay but biologically they're lesbian it does for me it doesn't matter what they if they are attracted to women in any capacity I
04:21:34
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwould choose the bear wait even a woman wait like woman shorter than me that I could overtake maybe that's so you're going to like May I don't take advantage
04:21:43
Brian Atlasof her back no no never how dare you [ __ ] I'll show you I'll do it the thing the thing is wait do you think that's act wait wait wait this is this is kind of dark but do you think it's like
04:21:54
Brian Atlasactually happened like somebody trying to like essay somebody but then like they underestimated their victim and then they're like I'mma show you and then they like got them P jail sure
04:22:06
Andrea Johnsonactually I feel like fighter chicks like a video on that like a there was a fighter I think this happened yeah I think so like some like MMA fighter got attacked and she's like like that yeah yeah
04:22:19
Andrea Johnsonyou're about to get [ __ ] up okay wait can I ask a question because you just said anyone that likes women you would choose a bear so like if I spawned
04:22:29
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardoh okay here's here's here's the thing for me it's really the appendage that I have an issue with that because it's the it's the penetration I'm sorry it's really the
04:22:40
Eric Hutchinsthe penetration aspect that has me in picking the bear because that the it's it's really just penetration so yeah even if they like girls I mean even they didn't like they didn't like women they
04:22:51
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardlike Mena though too like are you picking a human over a bear now no I'm like I'm like a girl I would pick a girl over a bear but I wouldn't pick a man
04:23:03
Eric Hutchinsover a bear because there's the appendage at even if he identifies as a woman you still would keep that same um option is what you're saying like even if he's a man that identifies as a woman still has a penis you would still pick
04:23:16
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardyou you wouldn't pick him all if was sexually attracted to wom or if she was then sexually attracted to women no he wasn't he was then no then it would fine but even with the appendage no no I'm saying listen listen I'm going to make
04:23:26
Eric Hutchinsit clear a man that identifies as a woman but he still has a penis but he does but he's not attract but he's not attracted to women he's attracted to uh he's attracted to men but he still has a
04:23:38
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardpenis but that's but that's but that's fine because then it it would be the same situation as a gay man they're not attracted to me they wouldn't want to hurt me but they still have the penis I
04:23:48
Toni Jfeel like but they don't have sexual gratification from from I don't agree I don't agree so if we're going to say if we're going to say get into semantics here all men it would unfortunately have
04:24:00
Toni Jto include trans because they could do anything I mean just because if you still have a penis you have a penis a G man about Fe I told it's about feminism
04:24:13
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardnot going to attack you you don't know that though you don't know that if they're actually if they're actually you don't know that though but we do but in this perfect circumstance in this perfect world not going off of what
04:24:24
Brian Atlassomeone says well then you prove them wrong you prove them you their Theory hold on I got some more scenarios not a perfect world I got more scenario talking about a perfect hypothetical more scenarios more scenarios okay
04:24:35
Unknownhere's the scenario 10 men or 10 Bears 10 Bears 10 Bears because oh man I'm out I'm I'm good man
04:24:46
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardtechon would I rather would I rather be no hold on wait wait guys but in the scenario like I feel
04:24:57
Brian Atlaslike in the scenario where it's one man it's like well you're probably thinking well okay he can get away with it but like in society what H like men are not
04:25:07
Brian Atlaslike cheering on like Grapist in fact I can even prove Pro this if you look at for example the prison system right if a man like if a man on the outside gets
04:25:18
Brian Atlasconvicted of like essaying a woman or even worse like if it's like any sort like children are involved he's got a [ __ ] Target on his back and even men who are criminals criminals and you
04:25:29
Brian Atlaswould question their their moral compass their ethics these men will kill that person they'll kill that person in the jail so even among criminals this idea of this there's this grape culture or
04:25:41
Brian Atlaswhatever even among criminals they're like these people are targets for for violence and for to literally kill them and let me ask you a question I'm going to ask you a question okay what is the ultimate
04:25:53
Eric Hutchinspotential positive scenario from 10 bears as opposed to the ultimate potential of a positive scenario from 10 men like what's the best a bear can do compared to the best a man can do of course so when I first
04:26:05
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardsaid my answer I've pretty much in my mind I the with the first answer one bear one man I've considered the possibility that yes I could get away from a bear but I've also accepted that I might die from that bear and that that
04:26:18
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthat's also a high possibility and that's fine because I would rather die than B I would rather die quickly by many bears tearing me apart than be penetrated by 10 different men that's
04:26:30
Eric Hutchinsnot what I ask you what I ask you is what's the ultimate potential of the positive scenario of a bear of the bear versus the ultimate potential of a positive scenario with the male in other words we're taking away him the bear
04:26:42
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardkilling you and we taking away the manaying you what is who who outweighs who when it comes to the The best scenario what I'm saying is the best case scenario of the 10 Bears versus the 10 man is that the 10 Bears quickly kill
04:26:54
Brian Atlasyou like it's so what's the best case I thinking it's also possible they just leave you alone it's also I I got a really good one I got a really good one they also they can actually help you they can be your
04:27:08
Brian Atlasfriend I'm just saying I don't think you understood the question what about the 100 men or 100 pairs oh my god wow okay if there's a 100 men
04:27:18
Brian Atlasyeah then maybe there is a possibility oh no no no wait wait I can even go back to the 10 so earlier the percentage you said is 15% so that's saying 85% so uh
04:27:30
Brian Atlaslet's just say it's uh two of the men they're trying to get you and then the other 8% of the men would never harm you in any single way so you would even using your own statistics you would you would have to grant that those eight
04:27:41
Brian Atlasother men like and they all they're all witnesses to this if those two men tried to Target you those eight other men you got to be realistic they would come to
04:27:50
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardyour defense okay right in every situation except for any sports team or like hold on random it's not a colletive
04:28:02
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardsports team okay yes what I'm saying though is finish playing soccer is NFL hockey what is it what I'm saying what I'm saying is it depends on if they're random or if they're buddies because if
04:28:14
Eric Hutchinsit's 10 buddies absolutely not I'll pick the 10 I still think I even if they're buddies you think men congregate So based on this logic I just want to get to the bottom of this so
04:28:25
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardbased on your logic when men congregate there's a likelihood that we're just going to go raping and pillaging excuse me graping and pillaging okay every single time that I have been
04:28:36
Tira Hos / Hannah Recarddisappointed morally by people in my life who are men it's when they were together with other men never when they're with women it's when they get together with their buddies with their
04:28:48
Eric HutchinsBros and they make horrible heinous despicable choices that is what happens in my arguing that men do a lot of dumb stuff but does it turn into sa though men might want to jump off a building
04:29:00
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardand do like parkour with some crocodiles or [ __ ] I'm talking about sa when I was in high school the uh I think it was the soccer team no it was the baseball team the baseball team decided to to sneak a
04:29:12
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardgirl onto the bus and they sexually assaulted her bus driver did nothing and I don't even know how she ended up on the bus but all I know is that she had to change schools after that because the amount of humiliation and what they did
04:29:25
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardto her and no she was not a willing participant and no she did not want to go onto the bus but it was for a Sleepaway thing and they yeah they smuggled her on there and they took her against her will okay so back to my
04:29:35
Eric Hutchinsother question is there more scary I I I mean listen I get it is there more I just feel like there's more positive scenarios with the man as opposed to I think the best thing the bear can do is
04:29:47
Eric Hutchinsjust leave you alone the best thing a man can do is a lot of things he can help you out y'all can like each other you can be friends you can actually build something in the forest like I can
04:29:58
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardbuild stuff my I I built my kitchen table myed Asos to a bear you don't need men boy I literally I I'm the handyman in my house not my not my not my talk
04:30:10
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardabout the society needs men well the society needs women and men that being said in my life personally speaking I can survive I can survive in
04:30:19
Brian Atlasa forest absent replication and having children removing that component do you think Society needs men more than women I don't think one is needed more than the other yeah I don't think that
04:30:32
Brian Atlasone is needed more just totally ignorant of the like just the reality of men's involvement in certain professions that are like integral to the uh and how many inventions were taken credit by men that
04:30:44
Brian Atlasactually were created by women I mean this is a total this is a total derailment um even if I grant you that some men took I well that's such a ridiculous uh response to my point but
04:30:55
Brian Atlasso going back to my thing so you won't even acknowledge that men have higher representation in certain key Fields when it comes to infrastructure in this
04:31:05
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardcountry I was raised by are you going to are you going to answer the question or just give us an anecdote wait for her to answer the question is based off raised good feminist no no no that's not what
04:31:17
Tira Hos / Hannah RecardI'm saying I was actually raised in a very non feminism toxic like Southern Baptist background but all of that being
04:31:26
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardsaid I was raised by my father that I do not need a men in any capacity other people around me tried to constantly say that I needed to have men for one reason or another and that was always but my
04:31:38
Tira Hos / Hannah Recarddad taught me how to do everything that I need to do to survive in the woods in the city anywhere I can I can do it I can fix my car I can build things that was a great non-answer can you answer my
04:31:49
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardquestion I can acknowledge that men have provided a lot to infrastructure but that doesn't mean that I need one in my life exclusively it doesn't mean that I need one in my life yeah but you need it
04:31:59
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardby proxy like are you're saying on like an individual like I don't need a husband yeah I don't need a husband I I love my partner and he provides greatness to my life but I am okay with
04:32:12
Eric Hutchinsor without a man is what I'm saying but the fact that you have that idea is because a man made it allow the world to be that way for you to come to that conclusion you go back 200 300 years you
04:32:23
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwouldn't be able to say that a man made it so comfortable for you to not need a man I would say women also made that by all of their sacrifices women's suffrage
04:32:33
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardpretty much anything that my dad has as a Viewpoint that was positive for me is also is is also a direct result to what his family and his like
04:32:46
Eric Hutchinsupbring you you're talking from a like I keep saying it's not about us individual we talking about for the whole world that average woman can't take care of herself without no man we not talking about paying the bills we're not talking about the luxury
04:32:59
Eric Hutchinsthat men have afforded where you can be get paid to press buttons on the computer we talking about in the real world if if the grid shut down right now I'm sorry if the grid shut down right now you couldn't be a model you couldn't
04:33:11
Eric Hutchinsbe some of these jobs were made out of men's advances in in in society so now you feel like you have value because you can be a a marketing rep or something like that that's not even a real job in
04:33:22
Eric Hutchinsreality like even what I'm no even what I'm doing I do I do content that's not a real job in reality we have luxuries where we can create jobs if the grid
04:33:32
Eric Hutchinswent down and it was just water shelter and human aggression what value would women have more than men in that
04:33:39
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardscenario um we quieter stealthier um I honestly I I don't understand this that like what you're what you're trying you understand it's very clear you might not
04:33:51
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardlike it but you understand I don't understand the point of bringing it up I suppose but what I am going to because you need men is that what you guys want us to say that we need men
04:34:05
Eric HutchinsI does we not trying to solve it's not about solving because we can't fix women we're displaying a mindset that men are
04:34:15
Eric Hutchinstalking about it's not about fixing anything women have mind made up we just said both that's what I'm saying no you said both what did you say she's I'm just saying if the GD I'm just
04:34:27
Eric Hutchinssaying the grid went down it would just like she has certain survival skills she's talking about what she has right do you have those survival skills maybe I'll start a maybe I'll start a oh so you you can survive in the woods with with
04:34:38
Sinead Barrettnothing that's really cool that you guys can I don't know if I could but I guess yall good I guess good it's really cool that you guys can do that and like be able to take on what man roles you know
04:34:49
Sinead Barrettthat you're saying but like wouldn't it be nice just to have a male do some of the things that like you have to do of what you say like does that make sense
04:35:00
Sinead Barrettwould it be like a compliment to have a a stronger more fitted man for certain roles like it's just we need men just as much as women or vice vers said you know
04:35:12
Sinead Barrettwhat I'm saying like it's it's great that you can do all them those things but I just think that like we shouldn't hate on men just because we can do those things and we can prove those things like what what are you trying to prove
04:35:25
Toni Jare you trying to be by yourself for the rest of your life and a man told you you could do it that's what gave you confidence it was a man a need and a want is two different things though I mean I'm sure women want men but needing
04:35:38
Eric Hutchinsand wanting something is two different things why you why cuz you're thinking about the fact that you can pay your bills alone that's talking about financially if things hit the fan you are [ __ ] sweetheart all of all some
04:35:50
Eric Hutchinsmen are [ __ ] there's some men that can't survive in the woods I can speak for forever you tell so sweethe you mean to tell me if you was in the woods right now with nothing you just can just find
04:36:02
Toni Jfoliage and and survive and offer dirt and Grub so that would go back to experience cuz I was a girl scout so that's why I'm not even speaking on that because I could I personally could I no I I I really could like I could well
04:36:14
Brian Atlaswhen I see these shows like stranded and all that the women be tapping out ASAP so that's a show this a reality based show like come on I don't even think I could do it that well and I'm a man so there was there was this show where they
04:36:27
Brian Atlasput a group of men on an island and a group of women on an island and these were like you know they knew what they were getting into I would argue like the average woman is not going to like want to go through that sort of experience
04:36:38
Brian Atlasand she doesn't have like the requisite survival skills to do that so this was like a group of survivalist men and like survivalist women and the women they couldn't start a fire they needed to
04:36:49
Brian Atlasessentially like the show The Producers had to basically go in within 3 days and rescue them otherwise they were going to die okay and the men were like kicking it [ __ ] the the Cabana or whatever the [ __ ] you know they were chilling
04:37:02
Brian Atlasokay it's a show it's a show and that's some people's experience but not no yeah be no one said it was fake so hold on yes it's a show it's even worse if we were to just to
04:37:13
Brian Atlasrandomly pluck out like a 100 woman from the general population throw them on the island versus willing participants in this sort of thing so it's like there's just a difference in like a huge variety
04:37:24
Andrea Johnsonof things here I think the original question the original question was do men are women need men and I think the answer to that is no they don't need Men
04:37:35
Andrea Johnsonair quote they don't need men could everyone can you let me finish because you guys always say let me finish let me finish go ahead now would every woman survive and be able to have all of these
04:37:46
Andrea Johnsonskills that are necessary no but are there some let me finish please let me finish what does the word need mean word can you let me finish one one thing can you let me finish one thing and I'll let
04:37:58
Brian Atlasyou finish hold on hold on hold on one thing and I'll let you finish here so hold on just to be clear you're talking about survival so like life or death yeah I think the the operative word need is kind of important as it pertains to
04:38:10
Andrea Johnsonsurvival but go ahead okay what I was saying was that no we do not collectively need you there are women that do have those skills that we could support you're still wrong you're still
04:38:21
Eric HutchinsWR I'm sorry it's about power it's not about logic it's about power opin can't be wrong or right
04:38:33
Andrea Johnsonopin reverse are there men that have all of those skills can you let me finish but I just admited I'm
04:38:43
Brian Atlassorry we need men men are great do no wrong great they're they understand everything their way of thinking is so
04:38:56
Brian Atlasperfect we do a lot of wait hold on hold on hold on hold on go ahead go ahead we let you talk we'll let you talk go ahead if you flip this in Reverse it men do
04:39:05
Andrea Johnsonnot have all of these SK yes I just miss Elliot men do not have all these SK either they don't have all these skills everyone would survive I can you let me
04:39:17
Eric Hutchinsfinish but but I said that I want to say he did say in the beginning I need women and I also said some men can't survive in that scenario either can you let me
04:39:29
Toni Jyouin about shut the [ __ ] up there we go bring it on out know you more than you need us right is that what AR stop guys guys guys hold
04:39:42
Brian Atlason hold on that's what you're guys guys guys stop st hey guys guys guys guys guys guys we have been interrupting her go ahead go ahead just the logic go ahead
04:39:55
Brian Atlasno no go wait guys guys everybody give her a a minute uninterrupted minute go ahead go ahead thank you and please don't say anything so what I was saying
04:40:04
Andrea Johnsonturn to the mic fix your M oh sorry what I was saying is that neither men or women would have all of the skills necessary but women would be able to
04:40:15
Andrea Johnsonsupport each other and women could continue the the race the population sorry without men how would we be a to reproduce can't just like get
04:40:28
Unknown Femaleourselves pregnant though we're getting like andan what you mean sperm banks are you talking about sperm banks but without men we wouldn't have sperm panks oh really like you know what I'm saying
04:40:38
Brian Atlaslike no I'm not talking about SCI existing there's existing sperm banks no I'm not talking about existing sperm sperm banks you
04:40:48
Andrea Johnsonmean how would you continue the species though no I I read about you misspoke no no no no I oh my God the the the bone marrow I can let talk talk yes I read about the study that
04:41:01
Andrea Johnsonthey're developing where women could have babies and it I think it was I don't know if it was developed for lesbians specifically or or what but I
04:41:10
Brian Atlasdon't know if it's 100% you know uh complete yet but erous it's a scientific experience I mean the so you're saying
04:41:19
Mary Gracethis exist this exists today women can uh asexually reproduce I'm not 100% sure sort of can but it's guaranteed to
04:41:30
Brian Atlasbe in vitro no it sort of is true I still think we need men to be honest but but the
04:41:38
Eric Hutchinsfact even even if we grant that uh yeah okay go ahead go ahead I'm just I'm just saying cuz like I said I I made it clear I I said it in this statement I
04:41:49
Eric Hutchinssaid there are even some men that would not survive in the woods did did y'all hear me say that so I don't think that every man can do it but it's a difference between feeling and design
04:42:01
Eric Hutchinswe're designed to do it so even though a man may not know his body is more equipped to learn it and develop that skill quicker than you are but from your perspective and you represent many women
04:42:12
Eric Hutchinsin the west it's not about what makes sense it's about power and it's about proving to yourself that you don't need men after men created a world where you don't need them men made the world way
04:42:24
Eric Hutchinsso you don't have to need a man because you have jobs where you can just type and get paid you can do all these things that are basically strictly based on technology that gives you a false sense of superiority and power that if those
04:42:37
Eric Hutchinsthings were removed from you you would not win they had a exhibition Clara Shield she's a great boxer she got knocked out by an amateur man she's a professional boxer she got knocked out
04:42:49
Eric Hutchinsby amateur man because it's a difference between what Society tells you versus what you naturally are I don't care how you feel what type of bell hooks books you wrote you're not designed to lead
04:42:59
Eric Hutchinsanything but yourself period but you could tell yourself what you want but when [ __ ] hit the fan we going to see who could do what cuz it's hitting the fan right now thank God is a few how old are you 25 God bless you how how old are
04:43:11
Eric Hutchinsyou 23 how old are you doesn't exactly you're 23 years old you're 34 thinking like that that's crazy oh you knew my age though the cuz I want you to say it though that's crazy they young as younger than you when like that's just
04:43:23
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardcrazy we're talking about technological advancements a lot right now this conversation I talk about nature but no we we were talking about infrastructure technological advancements there's a lot
04:43:35
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardof technological advancements especially within medicine that was credited and has now been recredit to women that was originally credited to men kind of giving lots of lots of
04:43:47
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardmedical advancements were initially given credit to men but it was really their subordinates which were women who created it and are now giving getting the credit that they deserve fake news
04:43:59
Mary Graceabsolutely the function of society the F the current function of society we do need men that is my opinion now well to reproduce yes absolutely no no not even
04:44:09
Mary Graceno not even that the fun of the society we have today sanitation welding underwater [ __ ] jobs no women you know I can't [ __ ] overgeneralize all
04:44:19
Mary Gracewomen I have a friend in underwater welding wow the one no good good for you we got an infographic but here's the but here's the thing these baby I don't give
04:44:29
Mary Gracea [ __ ] she doesn't give [ __ ] I know like yes of course there can be women that appreciate and like this job statistically and logically looking at it though