WILDEST SHOW EVER?! HEATED Debate With SUPER Woke Liberal Feminist LA Girls?! | Dating Talk #213
Date: 2024-11-18
Duration: 10h 19m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_02Toni J(guest)
SPEAKER_03Andrea Johnson(guest)
SPEAKER_05Mary Grace(guest)
SPEAKER_06Eric Hutchins(guest)
SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_08Sinead Barrett(guest)
SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_12Unknown Female(guest)
SPEAKER_13Tira Hos / Hannah Recard(guest)
SPEAKER_14Kayla Hardy(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:09
QuoteBrian Atlas opening announcement.
“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast”
00:04:11
IntroTira Hos intro: 23, Ohio, mental health advocate/waitress.
“hi I am Tira hos 23 years old from Ohio mental health Advocate on TikTok also a waitress”
00:04:21
IntroHannah Recard intro: actress/model, LA, declines to give age per agent advice.
“hi my name is Hannah recard I am an actor by occupation I prefer not to answer my age”
00:06:21
IntroAndrea Johnson intro: 34, Southern California, marketing director.
“my name is Andrea Johnson I am 34 from Southern California I am a marketing director”
00:06:33
IntroMary Grace Langhorn intro: 23, Santa Barbara, surgical assistant.
“I am Mary Grace Langhorn 23 from Santa Barbara California surgical assistant”
00:07:04
IntroKayla Hardy intro: 25, Malibu, fashion model.
“I am Kayla Hardy 25 in Malibu fashion model”
00:07:15
IntroToni J intro: 26, LA, singer-songwriter and actress.
“my name is Toni J 26 singer songwriter and actress from LA”
00:07:26
IntroSinead Barrett intro: 25, Ohio, waitress/barista, nutrition student.
“my name is Sinead Barrett waitress and barista two jobs also studying for bachelor in Nutrition”
00:07:49
IntroEric Hutchins (ilosophical) intro: 39, Newark NJ/Charlotte NC, construction mgr and content creator.
“my name is Eric Hutchins AKA ilosophical YouTube Instagram social commentary full-time construction project manager”
00:08:30
IntroAndrew Wilson intro: host of The Crucible, political analyst and satirist.
“my name is Andrew Wilson host of The Crucible entertainment Channel YouTube political analyst”
00:26:04
QuoteMary Grace describes her last relationship ending due to boyfriend violating criminal restraining order; his mother is threatening to sue her for rent.
“she had an active restraining order against him so that was a threat and I didnt know this until I moved so she ended up reporting it to his probation officer”
00:30:58
QuoteToni J reveals she is a widow; husband passed away around 2021; first date since widowhood was the day before this episode.
“he actually passed away you are a widow then correct yes okay were you married I was”
01:34:24
QuoteKayla reads Reddit post about girlfriend who slept with a Tinder hookup while telling the poster she wanted to take it slow.
“recently Jess and I ran into a guy... I thought you should know that Jess and I hooked up right after Christmas”
02:30:25
ControversySelf-rating round. Panel rates looks 1-10. Andrea insists everyone is a 10. Brian rates himself 10 sarcastically. Approximate ratings: 7 (Tira), 8 (Sinead), 10 (someone), 5 (Brian joke), 9 (Toni), 9 (someone), 7 (someone), 5-6 (Kayla), 8 (Eric?), 5 (Andrew), 10 (Brian sarcastic).
“ask everyone to rate their own looks on the scale of one to 10 seven eight ten five nine nine seven five or a six strong eight give myself a five”
03:10:12
ControversyMan vs. bear debate. Most women initially chose bear over a random spawned man in the forest. Reasons: fear of assault/rape. Brian and Andrew challenge the statistics.
“I said man but I changed my answer to Bear I say pick bear because humans sometimes are unpredictable”
03:12:30
QuoteHannah says a man could take away her dignity AND kill her; a bear would only kill her. Justifies picking bear.
“a man could potentially take away my dignity and then kill me whereas bear will just kill me”
04:34:00
ControversyBrian presents top-20 most dangerous US jobs infographic (94-99.9% male). Argues societal collapse if all men vanished. Hannah argues women are increasingly entering these fields.
“top 20 most dangerous us occupations logging workers 95 percent male fishing workers 99.9 percent”
09:27:00
ControversyTransgender debate: Hannah says she would allow puberty blockers for child after 2-year consistent request plus doctor recommendation. Brian and Eric argue this is effectively irreversible and parents should just say no.
“I would start them if after 2 years still felt the same exact way I would allow them to take a low dose of something”
10:17:06
OtherBrian wraps show calling it one of the best panels in a long time. WoW raid outro to streamer ampy.
“this is one of the wildest panels it was good really interesting conversation one of the best panels we had in a very long time”
Topics Discussed
00:00:07
Announcements & Introductions
Brian announcements (WoW Classic Fresh guild, merch, Discord, Twitch, donations). Guest introductions: name, age, location, occupation. Educational background round. Relationship status round.
00:28:00
React: Eric's Viral Clip (Women & Assertive Men)
Panel reacts to Eric Hutchins' viral clip about women claiming to want assertive men but choosing passive men. Debate on women dressing provocatively vs. modestly. Traditional values vs. modern liberation. Eric argues women's behavior is contradictory to stated preferences.
01:34:24
Reddit: Girlfriend Slept With Tinder Date While "Taking It Slow"
Kayla reads Reddit post: man's girlfriend hooked up with Tinder guy while telling him she wanted to "take it slow" physically. Panel debates pre-exclusivity obligations, moral duty to disclose, and whether the woman's behavior was valid. Andrew argues STD-disclosure analogy; Eric says the man was "green" and naive.
02:30:25
Self-Rating Round (1-10 Looks)
Viewer question asks panel to rate their own looks 1-10. Ratings given (order approximate due to diarization): 7, 8, 10, 5, 9, 9, 7, 5-6, 8, 5 (Andrew), 10 (Brian, sarcastic). Spirals into debate over whether everyone is a 10 (Andrea's position) and rating dictators/celebrities for attraction.
03:10:12
Man vs. Bear Debate
Classic internet debate: if you were alone in a forest, would you rather encounter a random man or a random bear? Most female panelists initially picked bear; reasoning cited: men's unpredictability, fear of assault. Brian and Andrew challenge the statistical reality (% of men who would actually assault). Hannah estimated 40% of men; others 15-20% or 2%. Mary Grace switched to man.
03:40:00
Body Count, Purity, and Double Standards
Extended debate on body count standards for men vs. women. Whether high body count changes a woman psychologically. Double standard discussion: why is male promiscuity more accepted? Debate on women wanting a "redemption arc" at 30 after years of casual sex. Eric argues prior relationships reveal what a woman defines as manhood.
04:34:00
Men in Critical Infrastructure / "What If All Men Disappeared"
Brian pulls up infographic of top 20 most dangerous US occupations (logging 95% male, mining 99.9% male, etc.). Argues society would collapse within weeks if all men disappeared due to male concentration in critical infrastructure. Panel pushes back. Eric and Andrew support the argument. Hannah argues women are increasingly entering these fields.
07:45:00
Age Gap Relationships
Prompted by Kayla's disclosure that her boyfriend is 15 years older. Panel debates whether large age gaps are acceptable. Kayla defends her 3-year relationship with a 40yo (she is 25). Brian challenges the dynamic at ~7:54 ("vulnerable college girl").
08:07:00
Women's Rights Equal to Men?
Panel survey question: do women have equal rights to men? Andrea and Hannah disagreed. Both clarified they meant globally, not specifically USA. Brian challenges them to name a specific US right men have that women don't — neither could name one clearly. Brian raises toplessness in public as a minor asymmetry.
09:27:00
Transgender / Puberty Blockers Debate
Debate on whether trans-identifying children should receive puberty blockers. Hannah says she would allow her 14-year-old to start blockers after 2 years of consistent request + doctor recommendation. Brian and Eric argue blockers are not reversible in meaningful ways and compares to getting a tattoo. Hannah takes back the tattoo comparison. Eric and Brian argue parents should use authority ("because I said so").
Transcript
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06:38:38
Brian Atlasexample uh okay I know you probably don't like this but if the girl is just laying there or let's say a girl's just in doggy style and she's not moving at
06:38:47
Brian Atlasall can you bring yourself to climax ABS [ __ ] lutely now I would argue because of the difference in orgasm response
06:38:57
Brian Atlasbetween men and women so if we just are if if we are standing up and you put yourself in doggy position and you you don't get anything from us you just get
06:39:08
Brian Atlasa a a hard on and we'll stay hard we'll stay hard and we won't like premature ejaculate whatever the [ __ ] I don't know where Okay can question for you can you
06:39:19
Brian Atlasguys bring yourself you can't use your hands just uh through penetrative just penetrative
06:39:27
Brian Atlassex can you guys bring yourself to climax if the guy's doing nothing no sometimes some women can some women a
06:39:40
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardlot can't though no some women some women can it depends on the position I think is the the position is the biggest thing okay I don't know whatever uh depends on your enthusiasm to
06:39:52
Eric Hutchinsyourself it be riding y'all get off on that but we hate that [ __ ] like riding does nothing for us not everyone wait you don't like a girl on top listen let me tell you listen listen listen I said
06:40:02
Eric Hutchinsfor me Meck that's my favorite I mean d i mean it's two types of writing you got women who do this fake grind thing where they just folding and bending your [ __ ] around [ __ ] they think that does
06:40:15
Eric Hutchinssomething that does something for them that don't do [ __ ] for me now if you're riding me and you know how to ride which most women I've met don't know how to do when you're actually going up and down on I hate to get graphic when you're going don't have to know how no you
06:40:28
Eric Hutchinsdon't but I'm talking about in the position that you're where you're doing the work and you're getting pleased so that's a riding position that's the position where the woman does the most work and right ladies that's the position so in that position a woman can
06:40:40
Eric Hutchinsget pleasure without the man doing anything so so we're talking about a position that requires no effort from the man that's the riding position we on the same page okay so since we're on that position that grinding grinding
06:40:51
Eric Hutchins[ __ ] they be doing it does absolutely nothing for a man your [ __ ] is not supposed to go sideways but that's what it does when she's you when a woman is grinding and winding on you your [ __ ] is going like
06:41:04
Eric Hutchinsthis it's not it's not in one position these people what are you talking about am I am I so y'all never grind y'all never got on like come on man well you only have four bodies do so now so now you're trying to shame me for I'm not shaming
06:41:17
Eric Hutchins[Applause] youe exactly I said you only have four bodies which means you don't have a lot of experience how is that shaming you but how is that shaming you but how is that
06:41:29
Toni Jshaming you I never knocked you for it no okay I'm going to let you have because I'm talking about stuff hold on let me hold up you have more B so you can't really
06:41:41
Eric Hutchinsbe in the conversation got four body all okay can I respond with logic and not emotion we're talking about a position that people who have sex are familiar with cuz they do it often what do body
06:41:52
Eric Hutchinsif you listen you'll learn something if you be quiet that [ __ ] ain't rocket science why you being so defensive ain't no wrong the one who brought up four bodies because it's not you should because you're no we should not you're
06:42:03
Eric Hutchinsnot absolutely sweetheart we we Gucci you don't think this is you don't you don't like what you see no because you don't like what you see come on I don't I don't give a [ __ ] I'm not interested why are we bring
06:42:16
Eric Hutchinsup people's bodies because you're not listening to the context you're just being emotional makeup sex we're not talking about we're not we're not talking about we're not saying because you don't have sex you can't have a opinion get out your feelings sweetheart I'm not doing that
06:42:30
Eric Hutchinsyou we're grown you're here you're invited here so you have a great place to talk what I'm talking about is like I'm not an actor so I'm not going to have that much to say about acting that doesn't mean she's demeaning me by saying that I don't have the experience get out yourself what I'm talking about
06:42:43
Eric Hutchinsis if you're get if you're when you're having sex I've had sex with multiple women a lot of women they like to get on top of you and grind women women that have sex multiple
06:42:56
Toni Jeven you have you ever put be none of your [ __ ] that you got going on just put just say what you got to say and leave me out of it go continue anyway when you have sex with a
06:43:07
Eric Hutchinsman women have you ever got on top of a man and grind going to have you grinded on a man when you're riding him ladies yes or no have you done that before I I like to I like the girl to be on top but
06:43:20
Eric HutchinsI want to do all the work I'm just saying ladies have y have y'all done that before have you got on top of a man and started grinding on him as opposed to going up and down have you done that before you do a little bit of both have have you done it before Oh I know what
06:43:32
Unknown Femaleyou're talking about thank you I'm not talking rocket science bro I what talking but I feel like girls already know that this motion without it picking up is not doing anything to we know okay so so back to the point so where but you
06:43:44
Eric Hutchinsbrought up a position where she say she can get off without Dem man it happens to be a position where we don't feel anything so the position that we
06:43:55
Eric Hutchinsactually get off on you do too but the position that you get off on only you get off on so when I brought up the body count it wasn't to dismiss her it's because maybe you didn't have as many
06:44:07
Eric Hutchinsexperiences which is a great thing so it's not knocking you for that that that's good you have a level of Purity we we don't cuz my my issue is we don't even need you to have a high skill set to have sex so your body count don't
06:44:19
Eric Hutchinseven [ __ ] matter for sex to be good from a man's perspective you just have to be available and willing and we most of the time will do the rest okay what the [ __ ] is so controversial about that so what I was that kind of goes to the
06:44:32
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardpoint that I was was trying to make though is that isn't that kind of redu cuz like when you're when you're dating you want them to be your life partner that's the end goal right I would say for most people who are dating they want
06:44:45
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthey want at the end of the day placeholder girlfriend we're hypothetical she's right we're following goad hypothetical you want you want it to be your your life partner and you want it to be your best friend you want to marry your best friend at least
06:44:57
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthat's how I feel a lot of people feel that's how I feel sure that being said there's such a high like pressure of like body counts and I feel like there's
06:45:08
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthis weird almost like um fetishized like Purity thing that you that you it's not okay not weird sorry not valid you think it's icky you think
06:45:18
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardit's no it's okay sorry sorry you know but for me personally I feel like isn't that kind of like can you see the perspective of women when that's kind of
06:45:29
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardreducing them down to oh well I want to be with them says I don't want to be with them because of like this this Purity and you should want them as a person right you should fall in love
06:45:40
Brian Atlaswith them as a let me ask you a question uh do you acknowledge that like a I would argue a majority of women so when I say majority I mean uh 51% or more uh
06:45:50
Brian AtlasI I would argue 51% or more of women uh would not date a guy if he was shorter than her would you agree with that you think
06:46:01
Brian Atlas51% yeah I think I think a majority of women would not date a man who is shorter than her most women prefer to date taller men I mean you think that's fair
06:46:12
Unknown Femalestatement I I don't know I don't know I don't is that an actual I mean it's no it's is that like is that a statistic it's backed up by findings on dating I think it's true I want to say I dated a short guy
06:46:25
Brian Atlasfor three years and I got made fun of for it so that was my long Rel than me right but so look but again I'm talking about majority here so do some women date shorter men yes do some women not
06:46:36
Brian Atlascare about height absolutely yes but so it's just like why are women allowed to have like XYZ preference like y'all have and you guys also who's pickier men or
06:46:48
Unknown Femalewomen women women who's pick here depends I don't it depends it depends it depends on the individual but it depends on the situation are they dating are they just
06:46:58
Brian Atlas[ __ ] or they generally generally speaking who's pick your men or women women women yeah maybe okay so women have XYZ standard XYZ preference XYZ
06:47:09
Brian Atlasboundary and so it's that's what's confusing to me like you're saying well why is this small little actually your past promiscuity is like really important and it's one like men don't really ask for much but like the thing
06:47:22
Brian Atlasthings we do care about tend to like matter a whole bunch so I I don't understand like why you're trying to diminish like a a male preference when it comes to dating like yeah I think
06:47:33
Brian Atlasyour promiscuity and I I can get into some of the reasons why but I think it's actually super important okay um I'm not trying to
06:47:42
Tira Hos / Hannah Recarddiminish it as your preference personally I guess I am concerned with why so many men like it's like it's like a like an epidemic of men and it's yeah
06:47:54
Tira Hos / Hannah RecardI'll answer it and also it's not that someone prefer like like you guys stated plenty of good reasons why you would
06:48:03
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardvalue someone who has a lower body count but what I'm talking about is the feti fetish ftiz fetishizing of like it's almost like innocence like I guess the
06:48:15
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardreason why I feel like it gives me an ick and you know I've talked a lot with my other girlfriends about this is is because it gives this illusion that you're a child almost like you've had so
06:48:28
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardlittle you've had so little like experiences that like it almost gives you an i of guy is turned on by that and that's what like me and some of my girlfriend's experiences are of like what we view when a guy says that so I
06:48:40
Brian Atlasguess just so I'm clear are you having trouble comprehending an adult woman staying a virgin past the age of 18 no I'm not I'm not I have no like issue with that it's more the guy's
06:48:52
Brian Atlasperspective of like why that's so but you're you're trying to pathologize like sort of an one an innate evolutionary and biological preference of men also it actually makes sense intellectually if
06:49:03
Brian Atlasyou think about it but um let me ask you a question uh what do you object to more a man who is who's 30 who dates a 30-year-old virgin because you think this is
06:49:15
Brian Atlasreminiscent of like a woman being a child or a man who's 30 who dates an 18-year-old what's more OB objectionable to you a 30 wait a
06:49:26
Brian Atlas30-year-old man who dates a 30y a 30-year-old man who dates a 30-year-old woman who's a virgin versus is a 30-year-old man who dates an 18-year-old I should have added this dates an
06:49:35
Tira Hos / Hannah Recard18-year-old who slept with 10 men what's more objectionable to you I I would say is he dating the 30-year-old because he genuinely likes her as a person or he
06:49:48
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardlik both of them as a person okay but what I'm saying is would he date the 30-year-old over that because of the body count that's when I feel like it becomes like a weird situation but I still feel like if he slept the
06:50:00
Tira Hos / Hannah Recard18yearold that is weird to me well we can get into the age Gap stuff here in a bit but yeah I can uh so hold on more it's more objectionable I don't I I
06:50:11
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthink it just it's it it seems like inzing I guess like in I know what you're you know what I'm trying to say infantilizing yes that word but you you acknowledge that there
06:50:23
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardare women in their like mid to late 20s who are virgins yes but are they staying virgins because of the same reason that guys are wanting virgins I guess it's the motivation I think you're thinking for us we're
06:50:36
Eric Hutchinstelling you our men want it it has nothing to do with keeping you as a child it's just that there's a psychological aspect to women dealing with multiple men we don't want to deal with that we're not trying to control
06:50:47
Eric Hutchinsthe fact that you've been with another guy and we're jealous no there's Mental effects to women who've been with multiple men it's not about we want you to be like a child we're telling you right now what it is it's the mental
06:50:58
Eric Hutchinsside effect of her inability to parabond after a certain time are there women I'm sorry Are there women are more evolved mentally who can thwart that absolutely
06:51:10
Brian Atlasare they the majority no we have a chat here coming in oh boy okay uh these girls have had so much love sausage that their uh V vagine and AR souls are
06:51:22
Brian Atlascombined what the [ __ ] just blank faces reminiscing about when they're what the [ __ ] bro come on do I can't read that part uh thank you thank you Hunter Biden that's great hunter appreciate um to add
06:51:34
Brian Atlason to what he says I I I said I was going to get into it but I didn't so when it comes to why men care about body count there's a there's quite a few different reasons um one is the STD component right and this is actually
06:51:47
Brian Atlassomething that's ingrained in both men and women so like obviously we want to avoid like something that could negatively impact our health there's obviously in addition to that there's an intellectual level here when it comes to
06:51:59
Brian AtlasSTDs there's a social stigma that's attached to this it's going to be harder to probably find it like imagine if you have to like disclose by the way if somebody you have to disclose you have herpes to like are they going to walk away from you at that point yeah you're
06:52:11
Brian Atlasgoing to have a more difficult time like securing a partner because of this so like the STD component is a big thing that's on the intellectual level but on the evolutionary level this is something that exists in men that doesn't exist in
06:52:21
Brian Atlaswomen and here's why so uh well there's a couple things so uh as a woman it comes down to I don't know if you've heard this term paternity uncertainty so
06:52:32
Brian Atlasas a woman if you have a child like you birth a child there's no doubt that the child is yours like there there's no oh
06:52:43
Brian Atlasmy husband chea on me is it my no like whoever put it it like it's your kid no matter what whoever you sleep with as a man since you guys are the ones who give birth there's no way for us to know if
06:52:56
Brian Atlasthe child is ours and so and you might say well okay there's DNA tests yeah but that doesn't do hundreds of thousands of years of evolution where DNA tests were not available so a woman who sleeps with
06:53:09
Brian Atlasanother man and that let's assume that we sleep with the same woman at the same time you go back uh I don't know 70 70 years and say
06:53:20
Brian Atlasa woman sleeps with three men at the same time they all um yeah you know what I'm saying
06:53:30
Brian Atlasum no no way to tell who the father is and then so it comes down to like okay am I going to get tricked into raising a child that's not mine am I going to
06:53:41
Brian Atlasinvest my resources to raise a child because there's a the the gene is selfish we want to uh we want to uh survive and replicate we want to be able
06:53:52
Brian Atlasto have children have Offspring and so like it is one of the biggest L's a guy can take in his life to
06:54:02
Brian Atlasraise a child that he thinks is his but isn't so men have like a massive disgust response women have it too but like to a lesser degree men have a huge disgust
06:54:14
Brian Atlasresponse when it comes to promiscuity and women because of this one thing and it's just evolutionary I know there's DNA tests but it doesn't like in for example when it comes to
06:54:23
Brian Atlasuh who here has like has anxiety or has a panic attack right so like we have you can go see a psychologist and they can explain to you oh this is fight ORF
06:54:35
Brian Atlasflight response um they can actually like they can prescribe you medication uh they can explain to you oh there's not actually like a tiger that's about to kill you but you still get that
06:54:47
Brian Atlasadrenaline dump and then you you're having like a panic attack or like anxiety so even having an intellectual understanding of why you're like having an an It can actually help a little bit
06:54:59
Brian Atlaswhen it comes to anxiety like if you understand what's going on but like it doesn't necessarily prevent people who suffer from like anxiety disorder panic attack disorder doesn't necessarily like oh I can intellectualize why I'm having the panic
06:55:12
Brian Atlasattack my panic attack disorder is now solved it that typically for some people that can resolve their uh the disorder for most they're going to need further
06:55:20
Brian Atlasintervention uh other sorts of things but so because of this if a woman [ __ ] a bunch of other dudes we can't determine who the father is massive L for a guy
06:55:33
Brian Atlashere's an example right let's say and this is why there's a bit of a different judgment when it comes to promiscuity between men and women so a woman let's say this is you go back a 100 years right a woman who has 10
06:55:45
Brian Atlashusbands and they're all sleeping with her at the same time right who's the father you don't know like there's no way to know who's the actual father
06:55:54
Brian Atlaswhereas a man who has 10 wives and they're all loyal to him
06:56:06
Eric Hutchinsand we got to understand that double standards exist for example we both can earn money but I'm expected to be a little more established
06:56:18
Eric Hutchinsthan the woman is it fair can we make the argument that men are we have feelings to and yeah but the truth is this is what it is it's not fair but we have double standards ours are economic
06:56:29
Kayla Hardyyours are physical that's life it's unfortunate too because then it causes you know men to abandon their families when they have multiple wives and kids and that's a huge problem well I'm not in favor of
06:56:41
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardpolygamy I'm not in favor of polygamy but no like what you said earlier about like the the like STDs that to me makes perfect sense and I understand why
06:56:53
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardsomeone would want that from that perspective and I am listening to your your second point and I um understand like you know that's that's how where
06:57:04
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardyou're coming from that being said with so many men still being promiscuous when they're younger and then having that double standard that we've
06:57:13
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardacknowledged um is it kind of unrealistic I suppose to think that every guy out there should have a girl that has a super super low body count
06:57:24
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthough because if guys are going out and having sex with these girls to get their experience then where are the girls going to be yeah yeah where are these girls so so I
06:57:35
Brian AtlasI actually agree with you here I I 100% agree with you uh there's not enough low body count women to probably go around if that's kind of what you're saying
06:57:47
Brian Atlasyeah yeah so like some men are going to like after they're going to have to settle actually well I mean I don't know if they would settle on this well there's also some men who don't care
06:57:56
Brian Atlassome men don't care a lot of a lot of men don't care my mine does not I I'm not sure about that you should have a conversation with him like ask
06:58:06
Brian Atlashim you should ask him hey babe hey bar follow me bar I you know what though I I think men will lie about this for a couple reasons one he's already in a relationship with you two like sometimes
06:58:19
Brian Atlasit's hard to like once you're in a situation can you get out of it but I think that and if he's trying to get you and you reveal like and he's trying to sleep with you mhm most men are not
06:58:29
Brian Atlasgoing to be like oh I mean h some men will it'll be a deal breaker for but like a lot of men they're not going to pass up the chance for sex so they'll just like oh whatever um oh wait I had
06:58:41
Brian Atlassomething really oh you should try this with your boyfriend be like um would you prefer because you brought up like oh be better in bed right um You should ask him like so you would prefer me if I had
06:58:52
Tira Hos / Hannah Recard[ __ ] 30 other 30 additional guys right so it's it's funny that you actually mentioned that we've had this conversation and yes he did say that he would have preferred it if I had more he's a different kind of guy if I had
06:59:05
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwell he didn't say it like it was a bad thing but you know when you know obviously my my number is four when we got together it was three you know so he knew that going in and when we had sex
06:59:16
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardfor the first time he was like can you like uh uh like he it was bothersome for him and that was the first time because previously can you been more specific like it was a position or something like
06:59:28
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardlike ar your back better I don't no so like the very the girls be like rounded didn't the first the first three guys that I was with it was you know like it was like you know they didn't give me feedback they
06:59:41
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwere like oh my God you're so amazing You're great and then I got to him yeah and he was like you you've had ZX before like it was almost like he was like it was like like you're so bad at it like
06:59:53
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardlike not bad but it was just you know like it was you know when it it he he just didn't know yet yeah I just didn't know yet you know like there's no shame in that and I would never say that I would he
07:00:04
Tira Hos / Hannah Recarddidn't say it in a mean way he say he didn't say it in a mean way but okay how did he say it then he was like can you like please just like like grapped my head up he was like can we can we can
07:00:16
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardlike let's just kiss um so it was like I mean that's a little different than how you originally painted it but like like he he was he felt like I
07:00:28
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthink he I think that it was a little bit more bothers cuz he had had had more sexual experience that like significantly he did a lot of partying Raves stuff like that and so I think he had like a
07:00:39
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardcertain standard of like what sex was supposed to be and then can I can I ask you one quick question um how long did you wait before hooking up with him him
07:00:50
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardso it I actually do agree with your point that like you know right away like I my like I'm not judging you I'm just yeah every s every single time that I
07:01:01
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardhave like had a romantic partner it's been like I know from the gecko like it's him or it's nothing type of situation first second third date tip yeah something like that yeah okay yeah
07:01:12
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardall right so this started out casually your relationship with him yeah it it's it well I mean like he came in to my to my the restaurant I was working in and he asked for my number and like we went on a date everything was great um we went on a couple dates and I just I
07:01:25
Brian Atlasdon't know like I just knew from like the moment that it was like it was going to be like him who's that girl from Clueless uh Alicia Silverstone you look a little bit like her I know that's just be in a
07:01:36
Brian Atlasremake a little bit um wait so okay so your boyfriend gave you a hard time a little bit of a hard time yeah be and so but so you had the conversation and he
07:01:47
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardsaid I would have preferred a couple other dicks had been inside of you really he didn't verb he didn't say it exactly like that but well he he said he he didn't say I I wished a
07:01:59
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardcouple more dicks were inside you he said he said he said something along the lines of like you know um what what exactly did he say I I said like oh you don't like I I was feeling a
07:02:12
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardlittle insecure because of some of the comments you know like I was like in my head a little bit and I was like you know like would you have preferred you know like or like would you judge me if
07:02:22
Tira Hos / Hannah RecardI had more like like like before we had the conversation the story keeps changing here I feel like okay so like I said
07:02:32
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardessentially like would it be would have would it have been better if I had more or would you if that was the case would you then have judged me like I was asking if it was a double-edged sword
07:02:43
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardkind of thing like is like are you happy or like would you never be happy in this situation well and he and he was like he was like I don't care about your your your body count he was like you know
07:02:55
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardlike it was it was kind of a conversation that we had where it was like moving past this like idea that he didn't want like a pure virgin basically like he didn't want he that's not what he wanted and that was the
07:03:08
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardfirst time that I had heard that out of a guy and I guess in my head for my ethics and my standards that's when I knew like he was the one but I did also recognize hold on it sounds familiar
07:03:20
Brian Atlaswait wait wait hold on hold on wait there's so many things here hold on he's like very feminist he did he vote for kamla of course he
07:03:32
Brian Atlasum the point when you knew he was the one was when he said you're bad in bed I wished you [ __ ] more guys because is anybody else hearing the
07:03:44
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardsame it wasn't it wasn't that it was that it was more of for the first time in like my dating life there wasn't
07:03:51
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardsomeone who was trying to like equate myself Worth to to a number I guess so I it was really refreshing but what still be equating to a number because instead
07:04:03
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardof him wanting your body count to be low he wants it to be high which is still a number like he wants oh you didn't [ __ ] 30 dudes before me [ __ ] guess okay okay I guess it's cuz I come same I I come
07:04:14
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardfrom a southern baptist background and like previous to him all of all of the all of the guys that I was do your parents approve of him oh they they yeah wait really yeah are your parents
07:04:24
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardconservative so my parents used to be a lot more religious when I was growing up like when I was growing up things were incred different mostly because of the church that we were in and it was kind of like
07:04:37
Tira Hos / Hannah Recarda cult if I'm being quite honest now that my parents are older they're like they're still very religious sure but they who did they vote for my my parents
07:04:46
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardvoted uh Democrat oh yeah because my my parents viewpoint on religion and this is also like my viewpoint on religion
07:04:56
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardstill is that how you hold religion is like within you and that's your own like truth and that's that's for you and it's not for anyone else and no two people will believe the like will read a
07:05:08
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardscripture and interpret it the same way and so my parents I feel like kind of view a lot of modernday Christian churches like those mega churches and stuff like that to be like just a modern
07:05:19
Brian Atlasday interpretation of the Pharisees so sure um wait so okay going back to your boyfriend um I'm like I hope my parents
07:05:27
Brian Atlaswait hold on the wait wait wait I had something on this uh your
07:05:36
Brian Atlasboyfriend he he want so he he was he he I he wait oh no no no okay I have it so okay you said it was the first time in
07:05:46
Brian Atlasyour life that you ever heard a man say that he preferred he would have preferred you less pure right wouldn't this just support our position if it was
07:05:59
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthe first time in your life that you heard this from a man that this is a standard that men have for women well because also like where I grew up maybe like the guys that I was dating were all involved oh yeah you're
07:06:10
Brian Atlasin la la is like totally degenerate no no like I grew up in Tucson Arizona no but you live in LA now right yeah but I didn't yeah LA's totally Degen and
07:06:20
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardanyway it it was just refreshing to not be equated to oh is she going to be a good wife is she going to be a good mom to kids like like Asos sorry I'm sorry keep going keep
07:06:32
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardgoing like it it was a refreshing take for me to hear that he was more interested in talking about like I don't
07:06:40
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardknow philosophy at 3:00 a.m. than asking me you know what I bring to the table or if like you know I want to have kids do they have to be biological because you
07:06:53
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardknow that's a big thing for a lot of men is that they want biological kids it was like this kind of like Purity standard of like a perfect little Southern Baptist housewife and like what I was raised to you know what's the opposite
07:07:06
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardof pure well that's what I'm saying is like I don't really believe in this like pess I guess like what what's the opposite of pure dirty unclean I I I do you think
07:07:18
Brian Atlasthe world should be Pure or unclean I I feel like pure is very um like subjective it's subjective what's what about the oceans should the
07:07:30
Brian Atlasoceans be Pure or unclean they should be clean but like so they should be pure well pure pure of what imp well I mean
07:07:39
Brian Atlascontaminants uh there's uh you know I mean with the ocean this is specifically environmental obviously so yeah contaminants I suppose what I was trying
07:07:50
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardto say with but what is so appealing to you about um a man who prefers a woman who is unpure as opposed to Pure I think it was just refreshing to hear him say
07:08:03
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthat like it was just refreshing to have someone say that to me was the first like Intrigue I that's when you knew he was the one well I when I say like the one I was like he was like different he was just so different than every other
07:08:15
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardguy that I had dated which had all been very religious either like Catholic or like part of our church like very like Christian and so for me it was refreshing to hear that in the in first
07:08:26
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardof all second of all it kind of like gave me like this kind of like like like light bulb moment where I was like oh so like not every guy views it that that
07:08:38
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardway and if that is the case then I guess I'm then became like very interested in why certain men view Chastity and things like that and I asked him and he was like honestly I have no [ __ ] idea and
07:08:50
Brian AtlasI was like that's not a great answer thanks I want to just ask I want to yeah I want to ask the other panelists here do you think like of the the men like men in general
07:09:01
Brian Atlasdo you think that most men wait who else is in a relationship you're in a relationship right um I think it's just you two who are in relationships like you've got it and you've been in a
07:09:13
Brian Atlasrelationship for 3 years right um do you think your boyfriend would genuinely like preferred like if you were to ask him uh would you like me more if I had [ __ ] more men before you do you think like what do you think well yeah my
07:09:25
Brian AtlasSituation's not the same no I know but like what do you think he do you think he would like you more if you had slept with more men before him no because I'm a lot younger than him also so well sure
07:09:37
Kayla Hardybut okay um so in general no because that would be really weird with the age Gap and then if I had that on top of it that would be really bad so no well but so look at least my thoughts on this
07:09:48
Brian Atlasthere's there there are djen men out there um but my thoughts on this is that like most men most men are not going to be like
07:10:00
Brian Atlasyeah I really wish my girlfriend [ __ ] more men before she met me well like wording it like that but but that's yeah so you said but you said you
07:10:12
Brian Atlasactually had the conversation we did we did have the conversation the conversation was what he didn't say like oh I wish he would have had more dick he wasn't that like he wasn't vulgar was
07:10:23
Brian Atlasvulgar but he said like was this an actual like it it was overtly expressed like hey you were just not sexually experienced I wish you had more sexually exper sexual experience yeah he was he
07:10:37
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardyeah he was like you know you're just not like as sexually experienced as I am because I think at one point I did at one of the times that we're having sex I did start crying because I just like felt so bad about the situation and he
07:10:50
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwas like you know it's okay your boyfriend made you cry he didn't make me cry I made myself cry about it no he made you cry no like I made myself cry
07:10:59
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardabout it if he was if he was like speaking I'm you're I mean look I but he no he was very sweet about it he was he he wasn't like vulgar he wasn't like you
07:11:10
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardknow bad at all about the situation he was like you know very sweet he he you know hugged me he was like it's okay you know he was like you just don't have like as much experience and like this was like when we were first it's okay
07:11:20
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardyou suck at sex you're terrible and he was like you know he was like I have more experience than you and that's why it's it's you know like it is what it is
07:11:30
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardbut like uh and he was like you know it he he didn't make me feel inherently bad about it but he did say you know like all the other girls that I had been with
07:11:40
Brian Atlashave obviously had XYZ more experience such an L for okay but so uh I guess question for you though so like even granting he was like he wished you were
07:11:51
Brian Atlasbetter in bed are you saying that he would have made the tradeoff of you he would have made the trade-off of he gets you more sexually like you better in bed
07:12:02
Brian Atlasbut the entailment of that is you have an additional like 10 sexual partners is that a tra is that what you're saying and is that would okay so because like a guy you can as a guy
07:12:14
Brian Atlasyou can be like oh okay she's not great in bed but the thought would never cross my mind like my the thought that would cross my mind in this situation is like okay how can I tell her what I like how
07:12:26
Brian Atlascan I give her like tips in a positive way and like try to be supportive and whatever uh it would never be man [ __ ] this [ __ ] I wish she she [ __ ] like 10
07:12:38
Brian Atlasother dudes so I wouldn't have to deal with this so I guess the question is is the entailment that he was dissatisfied with your sexual skill is the entailment
07:12:49
Brian Atlashe would the tradeoff of if he could have gotten you more sexually skilled he would have happily had you had sex with
07:12:58
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardmore men prior to him I I I don't think at this point he cares but maybe at that point I think it was maybe bothersome
07:13:08
Brian Atlasfor him and to the point he wished that you [ __ ] up more men prior to him now I feel like he would have a different answer than when we first got together if that makes sense like now I
07:13:21
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardthink he's he would be fine with it cuz we have made like it out but like in the beginning it was like you know rough so maybe I mean like it's so what I don't understand understand is like you have
07:13:33
Brian Atlasto really be [ __ ] up as a girl to like be bad in bed like you got to [ __ ] up you got to be trying to do [ __ ] to
07:13:42
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardlike be bad in bed okay but we we about do style your back you're good okay that's it but we've talked about preferences you said that you love it when girls ride you and he said that he
07:13:53
Brian Atlashates he doesn't like it when girls ride him the gr ride yeah I don't like not the gr I don't like if she's going like I I don't like the Jackhammer like the I don't like the
07:14:05
Brian AtlasJackhammer wait what's the Jack the Jackhammer is like speed got it got it don't like it I'm more of a gentle I prefer ay you know guys prefer more gentle sex you know like I don't like I
07:14:17
Tira Hos / Hannah Recarddon't want the girl like okay this and I don't want to this might be TMI but what you said you dislike is like the exact thing that barthol will call him that he loves that
07:14:29
Tira Hos / Hannah Recard[ __ ] so it's like I feel like every guy is different in like what they want in Sex and relationship and all of these things but if we're pushing I guess what I was in a roundabout this is a very
07:14:42
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardlong way to get to this is like if we're pushing Like A Narrative of like guys and girls need to be a certain way like is anyone ever going to be happy and
07:14:52
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardtruly fulfilled in a relationship like a a normal person who's you know like like not I guess just like a just someone
07:15:02
Brian Atlaslike not not I don't know just is the expectation maybe too high that is a good question we do have some chats coming here that I we got to try to get through this tax donated $200 grao sorry
07:15:14
Unknownfor the delay on this I apologize gross when your body counts are high because when you have sex a man is entering your body literally and metaphorically a dishonorable man can be smch and corrupt
07:15:26
Brian Atlasyou from the inside out graffo sorry for the delay on this I I'm very sorry uh that did come through from gito we have a couple other ones coming in
07:15:40
Brian Atlasuh okay I can't pull that one up bro you can I'll send a refund or whatever uh oh wait it's uh Giani I realized I loved my boyfriend when he told me he wished I
07:15:51
Brian Atlasbanged more dudes that only came that only came up because she didn't make his pee PE feel a certain way she literally loves cumer porn BN brain pathetic do
07:16:03
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardyou do you have a response to that what does that even mean sorry you know what I meant is you know first of all when all of this happened it was like the first two times we had sex after that everything was was great you know we got
07:16:15
Brian Atlasexperience down everything was fine but it was the first few times that we had sex so it wasn't an ongoing thing wait wait wait just just to rewind a little bit here the origination of this entire
07:16:26
Brian Atlasconversation was I think I brought something up like yeah most men would not like do the tradeoff of like their girlfriend having 10 sleeping with 10
07:16:38
Brian Atlasadditional women or sorry 10 additional men prior to them if it means she's like marginally better or even way better in the bedroom in this case you're like oh
07:16:47
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwell actually my boyfriend yeah cuz I cuz sounding like it's not no like it no it just had a 30 minute conversation for nothing go ahead no no go ahead go no it
07:16:58
Brian Atlasit that's how that's how it was and what I'm saying is like wait wait I have to interrupt you so you said it was the first two times you guys had sex okay maybe the first couple times F even
07:17:10
Brian Atlaseven if sure let's say it was F the first five times weren't great in fact I even think for most couples the best sex you're going to have is deeper into the relationship than early on because you guys got to figure out this is actually
07:17:22
Brian Atlasa very normal phenomenon I think the first time having sex you know she doesn't know what you like you don't know what she likes you're figuring it out maybe there's nerves involved I don't actually think that this is a rare
07:17:35
Brian Atlasphenomenon that the sex isn't always the best the first time in any case um you said that it was remedied within like a couple sexual encounters what man in his right mind if it was remedied within
07:17:48
Brian Atlaslike five sexual encounters would still make the trade-off of I wish for those five early sexual encounters like those first five sexual encounters I I'm holding it against her I'm holding those
07:17:59
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardfirst sexual encounters against her and she should have [ __ ] 10 other men because of that no man no man is ever making that deal unless he's a cuck I think for him he maybe felt also bad for
07:18:12
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardme personally because he was like you know he felt like he like robbed me of different experiences of being with other people I think was also part of the conversation he robbed you like like
07:18:23
Brian Atlaslike his his words not mine his words not mine okay like he because he he robbed you of getting to [ __ ] other men oh my God this guy no and like I know about so like have
07:18:34
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardyou guys we no we're in a he a no we're in completely committed seven years oh seven years yeah we're we're fine we're good what I was trying to say is that
07:18:44
Brian Atlasyou know I want to rob my girl of other sexual experiences with other you're [ __ ] damn right I'm robbing you I am robbing you of other sexual experiences
07:18:55
Tira Hos / Hannah Recardwith men that's called commitment damn right I'm robbing you of sexual experience because okay here's here's here's the last he's a little bit older than me and so that's also part of I'm
07:19:08
Eric Hutchinshe felt like he was taking away my hot ears oh I'm he supposed yeah for him they they hot with him I'm sorry baby but let me ask you a question you don't
07:19:17
Eric Hutchinshave to answer it but did his sexual proclivities with you expand the more you was with him he sound like a freak what I said his sexual like proclivities like stuff he wanted from you did it
07:19:30
Eric Hutchinsincrease as y'all started having more sex cuz it sounds like he's him I have never pegged him not into that absolutely not no no he's definitely giv Peg Vibes he trust me he is not a peg
07:19:42
Eric HutchinsVibe guy who did he vote for sorry I don't know some people just over sexualize I think that's I think that's the real problem just with the our with America periods there's too much pressure on sex
07:19:54
Eric Hutchinsgood or bad I think we just been over sexualized especially my generation like late '90s early 2000s should he come on the show that sorry go ahead be crazy I think the late ' 90s early 2000 it was
07:20:04
Eric Hutchinsthis big porn rush and I think this Rush of porn and the ACC accessibility to it has increased the demand of what a woman need like a lot of dudes do think that she needs to be this super freak and I
07:20:16
Eric Hutchinsthink that comes from a porn addiction because back in the day women didn't have to be all that she didn't have to dress look a certain way even men cuz now if you look at porns all the dudes are in shape and all the women have a
07:20:29
Eric Hutchinscertain phenotype it wasn't like like that back in the day social media too social media too so now it's like after porn everybody had to be a certain uh aesthetic female wise and every man had to be in perfect shape I think these
07:20:39
Eric Hutchinsappetites come from porn and I think when men expect women to have this crazy sexual uh experience I think it's because they're comparing you to really pornography so do you think with that
07:20:51
Tira Hos / Hannah RecardViewpoint though that men shouldn't be so heavily reliant on porn of course too much of anything is not good for you so like do you watch
07:21:00
Eric Hutchinsporn no okay I have but I was younger but as I got older it's like it desensitizes you to it to me it has the
07:21:09
Eric Hutchinssame effect that um seeing too much to too many women dress a certain way um all the time it the sensitizes you to the cording it desensitizes you to how she feels and it kind of It kind of put
07:21:21
Eric Hutchinsyou in a place of looking at her from an objective perspective like so I think that's why I say women dressing different it's not just about us it's protecting her and is forcing the man to pull something else out of you because
07:21:33
Eric Hutchinsif he's constantly seeing you getting screwed and porn and he's constantly seeing your ass on Instagram unless he's very highly developed and mature he's going to just be looking at you as a sexual
07:21:44
Brian Atlasobject if I'm in a relationship I don't I don't watch porn okay yeah uh how do man we talk that's crazy we talked about a lot of things I'm going to try to get things wrapped up
07:21:55
Brian Atlashere hopefully pretty soon um that is really interesting though thank you for being so like open about all that appreciate it that was uh
07:22:06
Brian Atlashopefully he okay with it too let's go to Twitch really quick go to twitch.tv whatever twitch.tv whatever guys drop us a follow and a prime sub guys it's been
07:22:16
Brian Atlasan hour since we last got a prime Brian has a small PP first off crew 87 it's average get it right and uh thank you for the prime though appreciate it guys it's been an hour since we last had a
07:22:28
Brian Atlasprime can you guys I think it's bugged boys can you guys check if it's you know and guys drop us a follow over there on Twitch I'm going to be streaming World of Warcraft maybe on Thursday we'll see I don't know I got to still assess if I even have time for that [ __ ] I gotta I
07:22:41
Brian Atlashave I work 70 hours a week so I don't know if I have time but I'm still I'm debating it I'm debating it oh we got crazy Ace thank you for the gifted five Subs appreciate it okay guys and uh here let's I'm going to try to get through as everything as quickly as possible I'm
07:22:54
Brian Atlasgoing to have to skip some of these things because there's a lot we won't be able to get to all of it um oh last thing on the like hypocritical thing um
07:23:03
Brian AtlasI guess my final thoughts on this are um in order for you to want to be with
07:23:11
Brian Atlassomeone do you need to be exactly the same oh no what do you mean like personality well so let me ask you guys this and this is for the whole panel I'd like you guys to answer and I'll start
07:23:23
Brian Atlasover here on this side with you so we get we do a different angle um are there things that you design desire and a
07:23:30
Brian Atlaspartner that you do not possess no well into the mic I guess yes
07:23:41
Brian Atlaspenis there's that yeah right you want me to name things well like uh do you want a guy who's taller than you yes okay but so there's are you saying
07:23:53
Brian Atlasthere's perfect symmetry in the things you desire in a man so like do you want the masculine man yes wait why you feminine no I okay are
07:24:05
Brian Atlasyou masculine no okay do you want a dominant man yes are you
07:24:13
Kayla Hardydominant no oh okay uh what about you pretty much the same thing masculine um makes more than me just cuz I want to have a child wantes Prov do you want to
07:24:26
Brian Atlasbe a stay at home yeah you want to stay at home right cuz my mom was yeah and my mom career yes uh going back to you really quick and I'll come right back to you though um who should pay on the first
07:24:36
Brian Atlasdate into the mic into the mic uh the guy the guy okay so that's that is an asymmetry right in what you want like you wouldn't pay for the first dat right you want the guy to make the first move you want him to ask you out you want him
07:24:48
Kayla Hardyto go for the first kiss etc etc right same with you yeah and I disagree with what he was saying earlier about how a woman should split after a few times and that's how you know that she likes you I made I gave context I didn't just say
07:25:00
Eric Hutchinsthat don't remix my [ __ ] I said don't get it twisted I said make an effort to do something didn't I did I did I not say that ladies I misunderstood you said
07:25:10
Brian AtlasI'm very clear communicating bab well uh what about you what was the question oh um are there things that you desire in a
07:25:18
Brian Atlasboyfriend that you do not possess yeah okay like what um a dominant personality okay maybe like asks you out takes initiative takes initiative first dat
07:25:31
Mary Graceyeah I think there's a lot of feminine aspects that I want to let myself Express as a female that wants that like traditional soft female Divine you know
07:25:40
Mary Gracewhatever and I feel like I need somebody who can be the man that can let me Express that yeah I like sherly but
07:25:50
Mary Graceyou're not chivalrous back right meaning well shivalry is typically something that's like one directional male to female you know I I feel like I am kind of sh shess back because I I
07:26:02
Mary Gracethink it's a give and take and like I want them to know that my effort is reciprocated I appreciate what they give to me and that is me reciprocating with
07:26:11
Brian Atlaseffort so you pay for First Dates then I I have okay um what about you um sorry repeat the question again yeah so um are
07:26:22
Brian Atlasthere traits that you desire in a partner that you yourself don't possess yes like uh and then what about you I guess yeah yeah right what about you
07:26:34
Brian Atlasyeah so for example like I don't think it would be hypocritical for a woman to find um to want a guy who's funny but she's not funny I think we can all agree
07:26:45
Brian Atlaslike I don't think there's actually anything hypocritical like just because a woman herself isn't funny what would actually be wrong with like an most women I think would desire a guy who can
07:26:56
Brian Atlasmake them laugh and is funny I don't think that's hypocritical m right and so in that same light a man who has a high body count who's like whoo I find this trait
07:27:09
Brian Atlasattractive in the woman low body count or virgin I don't think that makes him a hypocrite in the same way that women desire traits in men that they don't possess themselves I actually thought
07:27:20
Andrea Johnsonabout that question more and I kind of just reversed it and I thought okay if a man has a low body count and he's looking for a woman hypothetically
07:27:30
Andrea Johnsonwith a higher body count cuz he wants experience or whatever the case may be would I find that hypocritical hypocritical and I thought no I wouldn't so why would I find the reverse way it's
07:27:43
Brian Atlasmore of just a preference so wait just so I understand this would be if somebody wanted if somebody wanted somebody who was sexually experienced but they were lacking in sexual
07:27:55
Brian Atlasexperience but they so they wanted to date somebody sexually experienced there would be an asymmetry there no you would you would not view that as hypocritical even like how how dare this person with
07:28:06
Andrea Johnsona lack of sexual experience how dare they date somebody with more sexual experience than them essenti is that a fair yeah cuz at first I thought okay well I think that it is hypocritical for
07:28:18
Brian Atlasa guy to want someone with a low body count but now that I think about it no I don't think and I don't know if you answered you I think you answered right you desire yeah yeah so I just you know
07:28:28
Brian Atlasthat's interesting okay and then we have let's see here oh we got something grafo sorry for the delay again brother here you go I apologize uh women do you find
07:28:39
Brian Atlasthat men these days expect you to be able to perform like a p star do you expect do they expect you to deep throat gag or other crazy things that were
07:28:48
Brian Atlasunheard of before corn normalized them yes yeah that's probably definitely yeah that's definitely a thing um grafo sorry for the there I do
07:29:00
Brian Atlasappreciate um what the hell I appreciate it thank you graffo thank you so much um I wonder
07:29:09
Brian Atlasif this relates to uh yeah it is a good point all right uh oh man we're not going to be able to hit all of these but um maybe we'll do one or two more and
07:29:19
Brian Atlasthen we'll wrap uh age Gap relationships I think a couple of you had objections there on the age Gap relationships um I think or no you're okay with them it
07:29:31
Brian Atlassounds like oh you're okay yeah you exed that out uh I think you had an issue with age Gap relationships I disagree but it really does depend on like where that age Gap
07:29:44
Brian Atlaslies in my op 30y old the example I provided 30-year-old dating a 19-year-old yeah no yeah no
07:29:55
Brian Atlaston you said also age Gap relationships icky 19 to into the mic if you can please 19 uh yeah 30-year old dating and 19-year-old
07:30:07
Unknown Femaleyeah it's kind of like but hey what do I know so I don't know why do you want someone fresh out of high school and you're like a very long-term adult at this point so wait what do you mean like if you're just get like there's a 19-year-old is just getting out of high
07:30:20
Unknown Femaleschool they're just now experiencing could be in their first or second year of college oh first or second year in college but still when I was in my first or second year in college no thoughts behind the eyes like just 19 you're just you're out of home yeah so should women not be allowed to vote I'm not saying
07:30:33
Unknown Femalewomen shouldn't be allowed to vote I'm saying that 30y old 18 well can I finish yeah go ahead I'm saying that 30-year-old men or women shouldn't date 19-year-olds in my opinion because why
07:30:45
Mary Gracearen't you with someone your own a why are you going for someone that's more vulnerable in life why how are they more vulnerable they're 19 so do you think it might be taboo and that's might be like
07:30:56
Mary Gracea fantasy to either one or both of them and they they deserve to be in a taboo relationship them but so go ahead and they could but my main concern is like
07:31:09
Unknown Femalefrontal lobe is not developed haven't experienced relationships I mean that's kind of BS the whole frontal lobe thing but yeah I mean Tech it does develop when you're in your 20s that's why I never take medication not this like so
07:31:21
Brian Atlasyou're saying like 18yar olds are just like totally arler like they can't think at all all that's not what I'm making at all so then but why can they consent to having sex with someone their age then I'm just saying I feel like it's
07:31:34
Brian Atlaswrong I don't agree with it I'm not saying that it should be illegal or not illegal yeah let me can I present to you an example here so like what would you find more objectionable like an 18-year-old woman or 19-year-old woman
07:31:45
Brian Atlasuh she is uh she's dating men her age but they're just using her for sex and she's like one after the other after the other I mean this is a complaint I hear from a lot of young women these younger college
07:31:58
Brian Atlasguys they don't want to relationship they just want to what you doing 11:00 p.m. on a Friday um what situation would you prefer to see a woman in that or she's dating a
07:32:10
Unknown Female30-year-old guy who's monogamous and loves her and she's in a relationship with them what do you think is like better for her mental health I'm just still stuck on why is a 30-year-old want to be with a 19-year-old like that's really just what I'm stuck on answer
07:32:24
Brian Atlasthat but you you have to answer my question first I don't really know how to answer it like it just so just to be clear here's your position you would rather a 19-year-old woman like [ __ ] say a dozen
07:32:36
Brian Atlasmen her own age that just discard her after [ __ ] her once or twice or three times versus being a uh a loving caring monogamous relationship with a 3-year-old man that's position well now you're just bringing up she's sleeping
07:32:48
Unknown Femalearound with a bunch of men well that was the entailment that was the scenario but it's different why couldn't she just sleep around with the same 18-year-old or 19yearold wait what why couldn't they sleep with one 19y old it's hypothetical
07:32:59
Brian Atlasto test the L that has no logic there's one people and then multiple people that's not logic different I grant you that a woman who's 19 could get into a relationship with another 19-year-old but I'm I'm testing
07:33:12
Brian Atlasyour logic here so in the hypothetical scenario I presented you have a 19-year-old woman who and I actually don't think it's really that far-fetched that this
07:33:24
Unknown Femaleactually occurs really frequently in college a lot of women they're having sex when I was 19 if I dated a 30-year-old that wouldn't H that wouldn't have gone well for me so
07:33:35
Brian Atlaspersonally my opinion is I don't agree with it yeah but I mean I you said that you have like the borderline personality disorder I don't know if that plays into it um why would what specifically about the age Gap relationship would not play well for
07:33:48
Brian Atlasyou it it just makes me extremely uncomfortable why are you not doing people your own age like what but let's say um uh you know Ryan Reynolds
07:34:00
Unknown Femaleyeah would you date him I don't know him you don't know Ryan Reynolds I mean I know of him but like I go date all personality like I don't date for looks like I genuinely don't if you looked at All My Exes you'd be like
07:34:12
Unknown Femalewhat the [ __ ] like genuinely you'd be like what the f Crush mm no you can't think of it's like a BPD thing like I just genuinely like I if I I've never really had an idol or looked up to someone like it just is what it is like
07:34:25
Brian Atlasso you would um do you know Henry Caville caval no you I don't know a lot of people I didn't watch a lot of movies growing up would you dat um have you seen the movie Fight Club I haven't watched Rocky I haven't
07:34:37
Eric Hutchinswatch a Titanic I hav't watch like I that's F can I can I say something about this go ahead I I agree with the ladies I feel like um at 19 I think once you hit I think you got a little window to
07:34:49
Eric Hutchinsdeal with that I think any man over 23 shouldn't be dealing with a 19-year-old me personally why though because the blowback is not worth it when there's so many other women what do
07:34:59
Eric Hutchinsyou mean the blowback it just I think it just looks weird like in today's society maybe in the 8 1500s when you know we was you know dealing with castles and
07:35:09
Eric Hutchinsall that but I'm talking about today I just think as opposed to other options like if you're 23 I think that's when that should be the last moment you deal with 19
07:35:20
Brian Atlas18 the te the word te at the end is crazy to me person I don't like it either the whole teen thing that's totally disingenuous