07:27:17Ankaon a date in Oregon he drove 50 miles to the middle of nowhere and there was a zoo um yeah like we like my family was in Oregon and then um I was I kind of
07:27:27Ankalike snuck out and um I met him and he's like let's just go to a place I was like I don't know I was young dumb I was like 19 and so like we went to the middle of nowhere and his family had a farm but
07:27:40Ankalike not a regular Farm there's like giraffes and zebras and like wild like like other animals and stuff petting zoo or something or it wasn't even like I don't know any petting zoo that has like a giraffe a safari it was like a private
07:27:53AnkaZoo it was yeah it was almost like a private Zoo but it was like in the middle of like a random State nice did you end up dating him or no cuz I don't live in Oregon so I don't really do long
07:28:04Ankadistance you drove with him 50 miles to the zoo I mean I'm guesstimating it was like it was like4 it was you and him it was just me
07:28:13Brian Atlasokay all right um just curious would you rather watch a Evil Dead Rising with a bear or with a man who
07:28:23Ankacries um I feel talking specifically H that's a good question actually I don't know if the bear would have I feel like is a man who cries like really a threat yeah exactly a man who cried like with
07:28:36Brian Atlasthat specific guy know like he's not a uh okay um all right uh going to Ellen Ellen you said uh you wanted to talk about pre-relationship quotas what does that
07:28:47Ellenmean oh just like certain things that you should do before you in a or like in a relationship mhm like
07:28:58Ellenwhat um just kind of like personality aspects I guess like what um they have to be like a gentleman
07:29:08Ellenthey have to be gentlemen okay you have to be kind and considerate what are some like gentlemanly things that a guy can do or should do um I think it's really nice if like they open like the car door
07:29:22Brian Atlasfor you if you're going to go on like a date open the car door why yeah or um I don't know I just feel like it's like a nice gesture or like they like but you're not are you not capable of opening a car door like you don't possess the strength to do it or no I
07:29:34Ellenhave the strength don't you think it's a bit sexist that a man would assume like you can't do it yourself I mean I guess another thing that I think is just like a kind gesture
07:29:45Ellenis like if they like walk you to your door um because you know it's probably like a that's an interesting one the like why I just feel like it's like a
07:29:56Brian Atlasconsiderate act in case somebody jumps out of the bush attacks you um I don't know I just that's what I've been told but you would you would
07:30:07Ellenwant this on the first date right I think I I don't expect it but it would be nice you it you would like it though I would like it okay if a guy didn't do it would it you call into question no I
07:30:19Brian Atlasjust think nice gestures but what's the entailment there so like you want the guy to walk you to the door um make sure you get home safe uh what would the expectation be for example if there was some you jumped out of the Bush and he
07:30:31Ellendid walk you to the door would you want him to physically intervene on your behalf and protect you um I mean I would just kind of grab him and like run away or like try to get into
07:30:43Ellenthe house as fast as possible I allowing him to deal with the violent threat no no I'm I'm no I'm with him like I want us to both get to
07:30:53Brian Atlassafety but you would want him to attempt like let's say you couldn't would you want him to physically confront the attacker or just let them beat you guys up no like I would fight back too I
07:31:05Brian Atlaswouldn't just expect him to fight if he let me ask you this the guy walks you to the door some crazy violent person jumps out of the Bush starts trying to attack you um he
07:31:17Brian Atlasruns faster than you and he just runs away leaving you to be attacked would you feel uh like whoa I can't date this guy that's just not what a good human being would do they would you know but
07:31:29Ellenearlier you said like you would try to run into the house and he would stay to defend no I would run in with him into the house to get us both to safety that's the priority okay that we're both
07:31:40Ellenbut so if he ran away and like just that's a horrible thing to do if somebody's in danger you should help them even at the cost of his
07:31:51Brian Atlaslife I mean I feel like if somebody was you know getting beat up I would go yeah let me ask you a question have you ever uh you go out and party out here yeah
07:32:02Brian Atlassometimes have you ever seen fights between two men no you've never seen a do you go out to the parties at all I do I've never seen you've never seen a physical altercation between two men not
07:32:13Brian Atlason the night set how often have you gone out to party and stuff like decent number of we you walk the Main Street you know the street I'm talking about yeah you've never seen a physical altercation or fight maybe I'm just not
07:32:25Brian Atlasthere at those times but uh in general have you ever seen a physical altercation between two men no actually I mean you are young you are 18
07:32:36Brian Atlasbut um or no you're I'm 18 oh no you are 18 sorry I got my numbers mixed up um I mean perhaps one day you'll see one so you think uh you see two men fighting you're going to
07:32:47Brian Atlasintervene I mean but like why are they fighting just like I don't know maybe one guy's beating up on the other I don't know who knows why would I interview you said a
07:33:00Ellengood person would intervene if somebody's in danger yeah being in the street fight's dangerous I mean you gave me a scenario earlier and I responded to that like if
07:33:13Ellensomebody walked me to the door and somebody jumped out at us but you said you would like engage in the fight but have you ever been in the fight no I haven't been in a fight but I'm just saying like if somebody was attacking me
07:33:24Brian Atlasand somebody that I was with obviously I would fight back or I would run away with the person that I was with I mean I think the scenario would play out something like this you probably wouldn't start fighting this man who
07:33:37Ellenstarted attacking you you would look to the man who's with you to defend you I would look to run away first if I can I mean I don't so you would run away but
07:33:47Brian Atlasthe man would stay in fight why wouldn't the man just run away with me fights are like there would not be time to like have a sidebar conversation with your
07:33:59Brian Atlasdate and be like what should we do somebody's coming throwing the punch the man has to like then you DOD and then you run away what you hope to dodge it I mean I'm and
07:34:11Brian Atlasthe guy starts keeps chasing you then we keep I don't and he's faster and he catches up are you going to start throwing punches or is the guy going to have to turn around and start [ __ ]
07:34:20Brian Atlasthe guy up I hope he does I don't I don't oh boy all right um okay I mean things are I mean I would
07:34:30Brian Atlasleave the guy and run away myself well she's honest I guess um the the reason I I'm going here is because you say you want the guy to walk you to the door so basically you're saying you want a guy who's willing to protect you
07:34:43Ellenbut that protection is is one directional I'm not saying I want him to walk me to L I think the gesture is nice I don't that's the kind of
07:34:53Ellenunderlying go ahead go ahead I think the gesture and like it's about like the kindness behind behind it not necess like I don't know how often these physical altercations okay what are some
07:35:05Brian Atlasof the other gentlemanly things you want a guy to do like more like just personality traits okay um what kind of like so
07:35:17Ellenwhere is the reciprocation from the woman's part like what do I do so you're saying men should adhere to these traditional gender roles should women adhere to traditional gender roles I never said they should should adhere to
07:35:30EllenI said that it would be a nice gesture you would be but okay I mean there's more than one way to say something but that doesn't mean that I expect it that's the traditional gender role if you gesture for the women to do a nice
07:35:42Ellengesture for the woman um maybe I would make him like cookies I don't know that's Act
07:35:50Brian Atlasof okay but like I I guess my confusion here is that like if you had two men and they were like both pretty similar but
07:36:00Brian Atlasone of them did these like romantic or gentlemanly gestures it would occur to me that you would like if you had to if you ended up picking one you would pick
07:36:10Brian Atlasthe one that demonstrated these like romantic or uh gentlemanly
07:36:18Ellengestures um I'm sorry I'm like not really running on much sleep so I but I think Tiffany can answer that okay Tiffany you want to answer on behalf of
07:36:31Brian Atlasyour friend over there um wait what was the question well look the reason I'm kind of like uh exploring it a little bit here is you had like a really massive
07:36:43Brian Atlasobjection to the bow thing which seems pretty benign but like you want a guy to like okay look at if you actually like explore the physical requirements okay the guy needs to get out of the guy picks you up in his car you want him or
07:36:56Brian Atlasyou would prefer or you would like it or you would get extra Brown points however you want to frame it you want him to get out of his car walk all the way around open the car
07:37:07Brian Atlasdoor my lady walk back around get back in the car like it's gentlemanly right so you have that expectation on men to take that physical action right but
07:37:19Ellenyou're saying that it's an expectation but I never said that it was an expectation do you have no expectations for men I doubt that no but you're saying that these are the expectations that I hold but these are not
07:37:31Ellenexpectations I clearly St that they're gestures they're kind gestures they're kind gestures so you don't expect kind gestures what are some expectations you do have I just expect them to be good human
07:37:43Brian Atlasbeings and that's that's really it like I'm just looking for a good person I don't really so okay so the guy gets extra brownie points if he does these things
07:37:54Brian Atlasit's kind it's gestures all right so if men were to say well women who do these things earn them extra Bounty points and they're more likely to be picked over a woman who
07:38:06Brian Atlasdoesn't I mean isn't this kind of dancing around what an expectation is like I know you don't like the framing of what expectation entails but if it's
07:38:15Brian Atlaslike okay if as a man you do XYZ you have a greater chance of getting me as a girlfriend as a sexual partner whatever it is you have a better chance of
07:38:27Brian Atlasgetting me isn't this essentially de facto an expectation expectations are requirements I never stated that these things are
07:38:39Brian Atlasrequirements right but if if a pattern of behavior means that this individual is more likely to pick me as opposed to the other men that she's entertaining then
07:38:49Brian Atlaslike I mean isn't it like maybe it's not an expectation but there's a significant social pressure on men to do these behaviors that's enforced by women
07:39:00Ellenit's not enforced by women per se it's a kind gesture just like I would look for like humor in a guy I think that would bring him browning points okay if
07:39:11Brian Atlashe was humorous like what's the difference between like different I guess like browning points yeah I I suppose but plenty of women perhaps might not want to date like a more serious individual who
07:39:24Brian Atlasdoesn't have the capacity to make them laugh or isn't funny
07:39:31Brian Atlasis that a statement yeah okay all right um look it's just interesting to me you guys want we went around the table I asked kind of what do you bring to the table what do you expect from men or
07:39:43Brian Atlaswhat do you want in a man and you listed all these things but like you guys really object to certain things like I don't know it's just like men should pay for First Dates most
07:39:52Brian Atlasof you maybe you you on a personal level don't um you don't want that you're like fine 50-50 I'm cool with 50/50 but like I'm sure you can at least acknowledge like there's a there's a subset a large
07:40:05Brian Atlassubset of women who have this expectation of men that men pay for First Dates if they don't there's not going to be a second date they're just going to be like almost mocked if they don't pay for the date um it's just really interesting to me though like
07:40:19Brian Atlaswhen we say men should do this men should do XYZ men should do whatever men should do that's not really met with much objection from y'all but the Moment Men start saying women should do this
07:40:31Brian Atlasyou start getting really in your feels and in your emotions and in your feminism and being like well hold on no women shouldn't have to do any of these
07:40:43Tiffanythings if a man said a woman should have my babies I would happily have his baby if it's something I want to see I do it the guy the guy wants to provide it's in
07:40:54Brian Atlastheir it's in their biology and do nice Gest for women so men want to provide it's in their
07:41:03Brian Atlasbiology is it in women's biology to follow men and be submissive to men no but yes but that does not include bowing well you said that men like
07:41:16Cena[ __ ] woman so what does that have to do with anything what Brian just said Brian just said that like would you be submissive to your men but you wouldn't right like you wouldn't bow to them but you would
07:41:29Cenaexpect for them to pay for the first date so what do you give your man in return what do you provide for your boyfriend in return have his babies be a mother to
07:41:40Cenahis children well that's in the future what would you provide for him
07:41:47Tiffanynow my presence being me it's a potential though it's a woman's an investment right
07:41:56Brian Atlaswhat but why why is it okay to say that this is in men's nature I don't disagree with you Tiffany I do think it's in men's nature but um why is it then wrong to say certain things are in women's
07:42:11Brian Atlasnature it seems like it's only sexist or you know in One Direction like it's only sexist if there's like expectations on women there should be expectations on
07:42:24Tiffanywom I think women should do kind gestures as well like what that's what I asked you what do you think think women should do bow do my laundry I know bowing is do my laundry on the first day
07:42:35Brian Atlaseverything except bowing here's okay going to the bow thing really quick uh just show of hands who would who would uh your your uh I don't know I don't know first dat for
07:42:47Brian Atlassome of you might be weird man chill chill out bro like you're making me seem like a psychopath for you're a psycho bro you're defin bro you got Kanye tattoos show that's psycho you're psycho bro psychopath over here freaking psycho
07:42:58Brian Atlasokay um who here objects to a man a man saying a woman should do his laundry on the first dat I object
07:43:11Brian Atlasobject object any objections object you would do a laundry on the first date yeah okay would you do a guy's laundry on the first date I don't think so you don't think so would
07:43:22Chloeyou do laundry on the first day chlo why am I going to this man's place on the first day you've never you've never been to a guy's house no not on the first dat no you've never had a one night stand no that's cap I've never had a one night
07:43:35Brian Atlasstand fine whatever that's fine all right pause I've done it you've done laundry on the first day W room was so messy Lexi I also wouldn't be at their
07:43:47Brian Atlashouse come on Le you've never been over to a guy like you just met [ __ ] went over to his house no okay all right see you now I mean
07:43:57Giannainto the mic I wouldn't do it but I wouldn't mind mind doing laundry okay yeah all right what about you I wouldn't do it on the first day I would do it in the relationship not on the first day
07:44:09Brian Atlassure uh question kind of following up on this um who here has within the like same 24 hours as meeting them who here
07:44:19Brian Atlashas had a uh carnal knowledge with a guy POS starting with with you I guess
07:44:30Brian Atlaswait what uh So within the first 24 hours of meeting a guy have you had carnal knowledge with a dude sex oh p and the V sexual sexual
07:44:42Giannaintercourse yes okay and no really
07:44:48Ankano no girl you got to live Cena yes no Lexi no MM no no
07:44:59Brian Atlasyes wa you I know I know you said that you said you had like casual encounters is she it's casual en it's not like that it's more like POS she being honest braev it's like we've smash we've been friends yo pause has she smashed brav do
07:45:12Ankayou want like do you want to describe San Diego damn bro you going to lie on my podcast what the [ __ ] bro I knew him like before that like I met him before
07:45:22Ankathat L you said first 24 hours with the knowing oh right right okay I'm using technical oh okay Josh
07:45:32Parree I met him before that too like the day before yeah was that like within the 24 hours I thought it was just
07:45:41Brian Atlaslike I if you met at 5:00 p.m. did y'all smash before 5:00 p.m. the next day bro no okay so like how about 48 hours does
07:45:50Brian Atlasthat change anything I guess yes yeah okay all right what about you Alysa yes okay Tiffany no okay all right um well I'll say this
07:46:05Brian Atlasmuch you won't bow for a lot of women won't bow for a guy but you'll do all kinds of sexual act bro it's like okay the same girl who
07:46:17Brian Atlaswon't bow for a guy or do his laundry on the first date like you'll hu Tua you'll spit on that thing you'll Gluck luuck that you'll you'll you'll have sex bro
07:46:30Brian Atlasyou'll have you'll let him blast on your face bro you'll do kind of crazy you'll Peg a dude bro you pegged a dude you pegged a dude on the first date bro is it true Did you Peg you pegged a guy
07:46:39Brian Atlasright yes it was a first date right uh no oh sorry my bad second date something like that oh man see it's CRA you won't bow you won't bow you won't do
07:46:50Brian Atlashis laundry you won't cook him a meal you won't is that a nice gesture cooking a meal no pecking guy no that's very rude it's a very rude gesture even if he
07:47:00Tiffanywants it don't do it go ahead Tiffany go ahead I was just going to say all that for just paying for a day is kind of ridiculous
07:47:11Tiffanyexpecting a girl to do your laundry when you're only paying for one date I do I'd do your laundry if you provide me with a house and a car the [ __ ] that's not fair bro that is fair I
07:47:25Brian Atlascould get like one of these services to do my laundry for like I don't know 30 bucks or something then do
07:47:32Brian Atlasthat well then you guys use a sperm bank okay and get sperm donor how about that okay that doesn't seem very fun Bo
07:47:43Chloeroasted not really I'd be down for that you'd be down for a sperm Bang Yeah before I was in my relationship I was thinking about going to a sperm bank and
07:47:53Brian Atlashaving a donor uh really at [ __ ] 20 I want kids before I'm 25 so okay all right that's cool um what were you saying Tiffany you
07:48:04Brian Atlaswant you got to how to do the man's laundry you need a house and a car and a ring yeah and a ring wife's status damn that's crazy man that's crazy all right um we're going to guys we're going to
07:48:17Brian Atlaslower the TTS to we're going to do a row session we're going to lower the TTS to $20 then we're going to do the rose session then we're going to wrap up any while I'm getting that set up any uh
07:48:27Brian Atlasfinal thoughts from and any of the panelists here speak now forever hold your peace go ahead Tiffany like go crazy or don't go
07:48:40Brian Atlascrazy damn bro y'all see these Tik toks where the girls like oh I'm on a date with a guy and it's like he doesn't really talk is that really dudes who are like that or is that y'all just throwing that
07:48:53Brian Atlasout there like is it is there really guys that aren't carrying conversation like there's there's there's nine of y'all there's one of me
07:49:03Chloehello we carry productive conversations guys carry unproductive conversations that's the biggest baloney I've ever heard major baloney baloney
07:49:18Brian Atlassandwich you know how I know this typically this is actually a studied thing uh women talk about other people and men will talk about like
07:49:29Brian Atlasideas and Concepts and things when they're when they're together like when women are together they typically talk about other people when men are together they talk about things and
07:49:43Chloeideas a full group of men I have been friends with in the past when they get together they play Belly Bongos they don't talk about you hang a bunch of soy
07:49:52Brian Atlasboys so there's no surprise there $20 TTS boys 20 TTS read them and weep uh get them in boys I need to change a couple things on
07:50:04Brian Atlasmy Cena what you got for me bro go ahead talk about Canadian dating or some [ __ ] Canadian bacon bacon yeah go ahead Canadian Bacon's pretty good yeah
07:50:15Brian Atlasyeah uh wait okay uh going around the table do you guys think that body count do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count
07:50:26Brian Atlasno what about you um no okay Lexi no I think sometimes
07:50:35Ankasometimes okay depends okay depends okay I know I wrote something different um I would just say it's based on your values if you want a low body count seek someone who has a low body
07:50:47Chloecount if you have a high one then don't also don't expect someone else to have a low body count and be offended if they have a high body count if you yourself have a high body count wait can you clarify your position on that if you
07:50:59Chloehave a high body count you can't be like oh a girl has to have a low body count that's ridiculous then you should have a low one so you're saying like a a person with a high body count they're only
07:51:09Chloeallowed to dat no I'm saying you shouldn't care hold yourself to the same standards you're holding everyone else to really yeah so do you believe in perfect symmetry between desires between
07:51:20Brian Atlasmen and women that is a weird question what do you well okay let me here I'll reframe it in order for you to desire a trait in
07:51:30Brian Atlasa partner need you also possess said trait to desire it I don't hold any expectation of someone I date unless I
07:51:39Brian Atlashold myself to that yes really yes H um and question what's your orientation like are you straight bisexual okay um perhaps this could be the case for
07:51:52Brian Atlasyou where there's perfect reciprocity and perfect symmetry when it comes to your own character istics and then what you desire in a partner I think this is probably dubious but um even granting
07:52:04Brian Atlasthis do you think that this is the case for most women um is it the case for most women what do you think it's the case for most
07:52:13Brian Atlaswomen that the things they desire in men they also possess all those same traits I think not just woman but I think in general it's not the case no so you
07:52:26Brian Atlasthink attraction in terms of what we're both attracted to is perfectly symmetrical whatever women want in men men also want exactly that in women like I said in a general case with everyone
07:52:39Brian Atlasno I don't think that's the case in my case yes that's the case there's a bit of a delay on the TTS guys well because I guess my confusion here is that I don't think that there's symmetry in
07:52:50Brian Atlaswhat men and women want and also I don't think it's either hypocritical to desire a trait in a partner that you yourself don't possess for example uh just
07:53:00Brian Atlascurious show of hands uh do you guys like men who are
07:53:06Pafunny and I I everybody right are you guys funny I think I'm F funny yeah I don't think I'm funny but I make people
07:53:16Brian Atlaslaugh anyways right but like I I guess what I'm trying to get at here I would not fault a woman who was not like who didn't have like the comedic timing or
07:53:27Brian Atlaswho wasn't funny I wouldn't fault her if she wasn't funny at all for finding somebody who is funny attractive because that is an attractive characteristic to
07:53:38Brian Atlaspossess at least for a man um I don't think it would make her a hypocrite I don't think it would make her wrong despite her total lack of humor perhaps she has a sense of humor that's a bit
07:53:50Brian Atlasdifferent though she can detect she can sense the humor but she can't actually like make people laugh like she's not funny herself I don't think it's hypocritical that's and I I I feel like
07:54:02Chloemost of you would agree it wouldn't be wrong for a woman who's not funny to find funny men attractive I think that's a strict borderline I think that when you're in a
07:54:13Chloerelationship I feel like you should think your partner is funny like really yeah cuz you understand them and you more so you should naturally if you like
07:54:25Chloesomeone I think humor and sharing that sense ofor humor comes in a big play in that so I feel like whether it's you're funny yourself or you understand the
07:54:34Chloehumor and you can joke about it together sharing that is a mutual thing if you're someone who is funny and you're a jokester and you're constantly making jokes and then your girlfriend never
07:54:46Brian Atlaslaughs at anything you say cuz they don't understand it even yeah I know I don't know okay um but you do you think everybody is equally funny then no
07:54:59Brian Atlasthat's why it's Base by base so then certainly there would be like for example a girl who Partners up with a guy who's just like a objectively funnier than her like I said for other people I don't
07:55:11Chloethink it's the case for me I would want my partner to think I'm funny and I want to have a funny y you got to but you got to like remove like you got to look big picture here this is about our opinions
07:55:22Brian Atlasthough so what's a bad opinion our opinions about various things and again but like I'm asking based your experience we're having a conversation about generalities like I could just if if you're having a conversation with
07:55:35Chloesomebody and you can always point to like some exception to the rule it's not really productive okay and I've said this is my personal opinion I've also stated generally do I think it's like that no I've said that multiple times right but
07:55:48Brian Atlasso with the body count thing you're saying well like as a guy if you have a high body count but you desire women with low body count that's like hypocritical or not acceptable it's not about desire it's about requirement if
07:56:00Chloeyou require a female yeah what's wrong with that then why didn't you have a low body count I I don't see how it's even
07:56:10Brian Atlashypocritical I think it is okay I mean so just to be clear so everything when it comes to what you desire in a partner you two must possess it otherwise I'm specifically talking currently about
07:56:23Brian Atlasbody okay so all women who want men to pay for dates are hypocrites because they wouldn't do it themselves I do it myself that's cool but we're talking about women who their standard is they want men to pay for first
07:56:35Brian Atlasdates are they Hypocrites because they don't want to pay for the first date or is this an asym asymmetrical expectation that cannot be
07:56:46Chloereciprocated due to the asymmetry of the standard if a woman wants to follow in line with let's let's even go as far to say traditional male female gender
07:56:56Chloeroles um and a woman requires a man to perform those gender rules let's say paying for the date is one of them and it is a genuine requirement not a preference anything like that is a
07:57:08Chloerequirement then the woman should have no problem too with also being in that gender role too wait so the woman with the traditional gender role should not
07:57:19Chloeof men paying for First Dates she should also be in the male traditional gender role no women who require men to perform their tradition gender role should be with men who want the woman to be in
07:57:31Chloetheir traditional gender role too that's how it is but that's asymmetrical no that's equal not really they want the men to be in their traditional gender role so they should have a man that wants a woman in
07:57:42Brian Atlastheir traditional gender role that's that is the same that's exactly the same right but there wouldn't be like a it's not the same thing there's a difference no there's not I just stated the same exact thing but said man and woman yeah
07:57:55Brian Atlasbut the traditional gender roles themselves are different you have to concede that okay but we're talking about the generality of it are we not that's what you just said I mean I suppose I see what you're doing we're
07:58:07Brian Atlastalking about generality if we're going to talkity it's a man who desires a traditional woman uh the she would be Desiring a
07:58:16Brian Atlastraditional man that's still asymmetry should should right but then the actual entailment of those traditional gender
07:58:26Chloeroles are still different and asymmetrical we're talking about generality you brought up generality nonspecifics so if we're talking about
07:58:38Brian Atlasgenerality that is the case look I'll just look when it comes to this when it comes to the body count thing and you saying well it's wrong for a guy with a high body count to want to desire or perhaps to even exclusively date women
07:58:50Brian Atlaswith a low body count or who's a virgin I don't think it's hypocritical I don't think it's wrong just because this is just the nature of dating men and women don't have like perfectly symmetrical
07:59:01Brian Atlasexpectations and desires and partners for example like women typically don't approach men they want the man to make the first move it would not be hypocritical for the woman to be like oh I don't want to make the first move but
07:59:14Chloethey expect the man to make like to make the first move does that make sense then they should date a man who likes to make the first move that's the same exactly and a guy who has a high
07:59:26Chloebody count can go ahead and date a low body count woman I'm not saying they can't I'm saying to make it a requirement to specifically seek that out is weird wrong what why because it shouldn't matter it clearly didn't
07:59:38Brian Atlasmatter to the guy when he was racking up the body counts so it shouldn't matter to him that a female has them as well well he's made a determination he we all want to get the best that we can get in a partner and he's come to the
07:59:50Brian Atlasconclusion after his his extensive experience that women who uh who are don't display sexual promiscuity actually to make for better partners and for this reason he's making just like a
08:00:01Brian Atlaslogical determination that H despite my past conduct I determine that women who have a low body count or who are virgins are going to make for a better long-term partner airgo I'm going to pick the best
08:00:13Chloeoption that I can get that in of itself is rud and hypocrisy as well how is that hypocritical if we're going by the line that oh well if you have lower let's make that assumption if you have lower that means you're going to be a better partner long-term partner and you have
08:00:27Chloeto experience things and try out your options whatever you worded it then females should be doing the same thing
08:00:37Brian Atlasand they can't paint it as a bad thing then that no I'm not I'm not advocating for male promiscuity I'm saying he happens to have a high body
08:00:47Brian Atlascount okay and and this isn't Central this isn't core to the argument but because of actually his experience he has he has actually come to a determination that actually when it
08:00:58Brian Atlascomes to like long-term relationships women who uh have low body counts make for better romantic partners then I would say that in that case men with lower body counts make for better
08:01:09Brian Atlaspartners and that woman should not date him I mean that's up to her determination but it occurs to me that there's also an asymmetry in so far as
08:01:19Brian Atlasmen have a much greater issue when it comes to female promiscuity than the reverse I would not agree with that but I'm not not going to talk on that you would you disagree with that I disagree
08:01:31Brian Atlasbut I'm not going to talk on that firm decision oh why just curious firm decision is it triggering for you talk about body count firm decision I talked about body counts
08:01:43Brian Atlasbecause talking about like that no I don't really care about that okay uh well going around the table those of you a lot you said body count whatever shouldn't matter not a big deal um going around the table what's your body count starting with POS
08:01:56Brian Atlasgo ahead oh I feel like most people know this though uh but there's new viewers there's new people at the table go ahead range between like 50 whatever 50
08:02:06Brian Atlasto 60 yeah okay um since your last appearance how's the how many bodies um I've been up two two bodies since last
08:02:16Brian Atlastime okay I'm just and you're um 21 right yeah 21 like have you like thought about like just I'm just curious the math or whatever like um like by the time you're 30 like what what do you
08:02:29Pathink the is it going to be like 100 plus you think by 30 no I think right now I'm just like slowing down a little bit more picky yeah but before I was more like I
08:02:41Padid not want to like not be with multiple guys at once um to like the point where like once I threw a party and I had like every guy I was talking to show up and
08:02:53Paeveryone I had everyone like wear the same colors so I knew who they were go to each one of them be like ah wait you did this yeah wait you invited all the guys you hooked up with yeah just all at
08:03:06Paonce I can just like get it over with meet everyone yeah I had everyone wear the same color so I knew who they were [Music] pink wait you actually did this did you
08:03:17Brian Atlassay this on the last show I don't think so I don't know how many men showed up um I only invited seven wait so seven dude was there an orgy afterwards or no so you invited
08:03:29Paseven dudes who were all had carinal knowledge of you and they all wore pink and then they just like had a bro SES and kicked it yeah I don't think anyone like actually knew about it because I
08:03:41Pawas though like themed party so I wasn't odd for me to like tell people like dress code or whatnot so but you only told the dudes that you hooked up with to wear pink yeah everyone else could
08:03:52Brian Atlaswear something else yeah like a different theme to like um the party I had and did they know no I mean they probably know now if you're seeing this that's wild that's
08:04:03Brian Atlascrazy POS what the hell all right I'm going to let the roasts come in um and then we're going to hopefully wrap up here um there's quite a few so um yeah
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08:05:39TTS Reader$19.99 seat five when your world view gets challenged don't shy away and hide behind your Escape goats such as this isn't dating and but from my experience your anecdotal scenarios can't lift your
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08:06:03TTS Readerreprodu 11 retards like her it's amazing most of these girls laugh to argue about things they know nothing about cela's daughter in chair 7
08:06:14TTS Readerbig arante be donated $20 girl with glasses if you're broke then you shouldn't demand a man to pay for anything for you or criticize him for being broke yeah I mean really quick
08:06:26Brian Atlasjust on that like when it comes to the double standards or hypoc hypocrisy like for example plenty of women who have no status want to date High status men like plenty of women who are nobody's would jump at the chance of dating an aess
08:06:39Brian Atlascelebrity a professional athlete a famous musician I bet you all have a celebrity crush it wouldn't be like I don't think there's a asymmetry it
08:06:49Brian Atlasdoesn't mean you're a hypocrite if like you as a woman who's a nobody wants to date a really hot attractive male celebrity that doesn't make you a
08:07:00Chloehypocrite it's fine to want it you shouldn't expect that as a requirement that's all I've said you can want anything you want even I don't even think even if you expect it I don't
08:07:13Brian Atlasthink it makes you a hypocrite whether you can get it or not is a different thing whether you can get it or not is a different thing but uh I
08:07:22Brian Atlasmean look it's like how many like I would a woman who makes $40,000 a year if she followed your worldview is she supposed to turn down a
08:07:33Brian Atlasbillionaire otherwise she's a hypocrite heaven forbid she'd be a hypocrite I man said that they can want it they can you pass on a billionaire you going to pass on that you going to
08:07:45Brian Atlaspass on are you a billionaire I just would you date the billionaire I just stated would you date the billionaire I just stated answer the question I'm not answering the question like that would
08:07:54Chloeyou date a billionaire and I'm trying to answer okay go ahead I stated again many many many many times at this point clearly you are not properly listening
08:08:04Chloeum I have stated that I stated that you've stated many times yes I expect someone to have the same things as me I do not require yeah I don't even think I
08:08:15Chloeclaimed require though okay but you your position was to even desire or want no I specifically said you can desire and want all you want you cannot expect it as a requirement
08:08:28Brian Atlasthat is explicitly what I've said this entire time I don't even see so you're saying a guy who refuses to date women with high body counts but he has a high body count himself and he's like here's my standard I only want to date low body
08:08:39Brian Atlascount women or virgins that's hypocritical it's not hypocritical it is I disagree look up hypocrisy please would it be hypocritical for a woman who does not have a penis to only want to
08:08:51Brian Atlasdate people with penises that's she doesn't have a penis she these all you women here who are straight you [ __ ] Hypocrites you'll only I mean maybe some of you are bu or whatever I don't
08:09:02Brian Atlas[ __ ] you [ __ ] Hypocrites you women and your attraction to male genitalia it is [ __ ] disgusting I am disgusted by all of you right now how dare you desire
08:09:14Brian Atlasa male with a penis if you don't possess a penis yourself I'll allow if you have a big [ __ ] you get the pass though I'll allow and big labia big labia if you have a large labia I I only
08:09:26Brian Atlasdate women with large labia um you also I guess you are also not a hypocrite if you desire a man with a penis but if you have a small labia an
08:09:36Brian Atlasany as they're called not an Audi and any or you have a small [ __ ] you cannot desire man with a a penis you can date a man with a micro penis I'll allow I'll allow
08:09:47TTS Readerit anybody here into micropenises good talk that was good thanks guys Marlin Gonzalez donated $20 fifth
08:09:59TTS Readergirl in Center I'm still lost why would you go to a sketch doctor when your friend was wrongfully shot by a cop and didn't take them to court and go to a real doctor we were
08:10:12TTS Readerkids jackcore M donated $20 chair number five you lost the battle and you're sore about it number seven I will make sure
08:10:22TTS Readeryou never are in o r I'm in Brian I know you want a GF to do the chores but take this trash out realize a network donated
08:10:33TTS Reader$20 how can these girls even take themselves seriously when none of them know the difference between woman and women what does plural mean high body
08:10:43TTS Readercounts the NQ met Griffin and chair 5 BS stories oh wait we were doing body count right pause you your body count is what
08:10:55Gianna60 something like that something like okay uh going around the table body count can we do a range yeah sure okay
08:11:03Giannamine's in between Zer and five okay so four around there or
08:11:11Brian Atlasfive Cena three okay Lexi I have to you have to you have
08:11:19Brian Atlasto I'll get uh yeah you have to okay two okay cool simply those I've dated huh simply those I've dated huh so how
08:11:31Chloeso if you were to add those up in a calculator not answering that if you were to add those up in the calculator plus plus not answering is it
08:11:39Brian Atlasover a 100 no it's under five it's over 9,000 under five that's fair I'll accept that Ellen hold on Ellen you got to do us a solid here okay you've been you've
08:11:51Brian Atlasbeen uh omitting all night you got to come in on the body count question but this is a private question Ellen bro I've been I've been I've been so generous all night I appreciate your
08:12:03Brian Atlasgenerosity Ellen just it what is it like one two come on it's very very I just think it's like it's very low that's it boys it's it's like three or less I just think it's private information that
08:12:16Brian Atlasshouldn't be publicized I think it's public information that should be publicized in various newspapers I have connections with the
08:12:28Brian AtlasNew York Times the Atlantic Washington Post I will publish it in print if you'd like me to I would not like it I would not like to disuss I'm just kidding it's just on the whatever I don't have any
08:12:41Brian Atlasconnections with any of these journals scientific America can I publish it there
08:12:50Brian Atlassorry range will you do a range do me a solid Ellen be a homie are you my homie are are we homies um I think you're really kind
08:13:03Ellenwait really you're not she's just saying that I think you're a kind person for being so generous for letting me um you know like skip over questions if I don't feel
08:13:14Brian Atlasreally [ __ ] [ __ ] this guy Ellen range do me a solid Ellen do me a solid range zero to five beautiful
08:13:24Ankaokay what about you I don't want to two reasons one because my family might watch me and they're like kind of religious two I think I um have chose to
08:13:35Ankaanswer most of the questions so I I just want to par pass on this one all right R how about range will you do range no because I answered like 90% of the questions what's up what is it I
08:13:46Alyssahonestly don't know I sto I'm 26 I sto counting you're 26 I'm go yeah oh okay so uh more than do you want to do range
08:13:55Brian Atlaslike 30 to 40 yeah is that fair 50 maybe like 100 100 plus no like 100 plus it's okay it's here I'm going to write it down 100 plus it's it's
08:14:07Brian Atlasofficial now I mean there's only like I'm a lefty by the way so it's a it's also more official because I'm left-handed uh Tiffany zero all right cool Tiffany rock and roll I'm proud of
08:14:18Brian Atlasyou I guess um wait you have a boyfriend though you guys they are waiting for marriage ah y Christian ah she's a Christian and and she also is a Kanye
08:14:28Brian Atlasfan big Kanye fan so that has everything to do with her virginity uh whatever the answers are multiply by three and that's the real number for all of you um Ellen
08:14:39Brian Atlasif I give you a $2 bill you will you answer same this offer is extended to you and Chloe I what did did Chloe $2 bill do you know how much this is worth
08:14:50EllenEllen I actually used to collect $2 bills so I have a plethora of them at home this is a crisp one though no but mine like brand new minees are brand new
08:14:59Ellenthis is brand new no but I would like to keep my private matters private personal $2 bill you have a collection of $2 bills also no all right than all right
08:15:11TTS Readerhey some things can't be bought for everything else there's V Master Card okay um more chats the [ __ ]
08:15:20TTS Readerbro by the this is the session sated $21 five is literally the lowest C to have ever been on here that's opinions
08:15:30TTS Readerare different seven is just a notch below the mental inability chair for has been the most honest this episode has been awful thank you bro I appreciate
08:15:41TTS Readerawful episode I disag I thought it was good I thought it was it was okay Woody donated $20 Che five with the lived out grandmar glasses what is your prescription or is it a claim to
08:15:54Brian Atlasmarginalization because you're a white woman yeah do you have lenses she actually do we have the ey patch video uh photo Daman did we get an ey patch on her in the Discord in the re I think in
08:16:05TTS Readerthe research tab or whatever a damn bro okay [ __ ] Dariel Frank Castle 512 donated $20 funny how Ellen can criticize men
08:16:17TTS Readerbut can't tell the idiot next to her she's wrong I'm for the draft with this generation they need to be eliminated so we can start from a clean slate it's a rose session you know we're doing a
08:16:27TTS Readerroast session guys and you know they're going to roast LOL paladins donated $20 thank you guys I have a body count of 500 and I only have sex with virgins
08:16:37TTS Readerdefinitely not interested in anyone on this panel boom posted damn that's crazy little paladins and that guy's like a pumper too like that guy he's killing it in season of
08:16:49Brian AtlasDiscovery yeah like he's really good like he pumps like he parses like he's sweaty with it too like full consumes full world Buffs like 300 engineering like he's
08:17:01Brian Atlassweaty good talk um all right we have Michael Jones with the $100 Super Chat so ladies thank you all for being here look if a Madman ran into the whatever podcast right now you would all expect Brian to get up and intervene protect
08:17:13Brian Atlasyou all why it's because that's what men do throughout history that's what men have always done thank you Michael Jones I know took us a while to get to the super chat but uh I do appreciate your super chat I don't know if you're still
08:17:25Brian Atlasin the chat but thank you for the uh Superman Super Chat appreciate it uh we have dragon's Talon a woman's probability of divorce with seven years is 76% if you had more than 10 male
08:17:36Brian AtlasPartners why would a man want to take a chance on you question for the ages Dragon Talon thank you for a dope name bro thank you for the uh Super Chat man really
08:17:48TTS Readerappreciate it thank you thank you more Rose coming through GMD gy donated $20 well played brixon the cognitive dissonance level was off the chart today
08:18:00Brian Atlashave you ever considered a panel of all primates to see if you can get a higher level of intellectual honesty um you know what I do want to get a panel of all uh maybe not all cuz it's going to
08:18:11Brian Atlasbe hard but like female incels feem fem cells if there's any fem cells watching any female incels not fem cells female incels cuz like fem cell there's all
08:18:22Brian Atlaskind of language tricks being played if you're a female incel I want hear from you I want to have you on the show it's a it's I don't even think that's a thing but just for the if you self ID as a
08:18:33Brian Atlasfemale Intel I'd like to hear from you uh let's see we have um really quick to those who said bear
08:18:43Brian Atlaswould you guys be willing to I'll get we'll film it I'll have a cage with a man and then a cage with a
08:18:53Brian Atlasbear I will pay you $10,000 to get in the cage with the bear for 10 minutes what kind of
08:19:02Brian Atlasbear uh it will be there will be a uh a we will roll a dice or some [ __ ] proportionate to the amount of bears
08:19:13Brian Atlasthat are in the United States we will we will uh roll a dice and proportion it to the amount of bears there are you know it could be a Grizzly it could be a black bear it could be a brown bear random bear and then we'll select a
08:19:25Brian Atlasrandom man who's geographically located in this area in California in California geographically located and then there's you'll be presented with the option you
08:19:34Brian Atlascan go in the cage with the man or the cage with the bear seems fun and I will pay you $10,000 to go in the cage with a bear for 10
08:19:47Brian Atlasminutes for the man you'd get a hamburger if you do that I mean at least you get something so there's there's more incentive to pick the bear not just
08:19:57Brian Atlasyour fear of men down down down so I'll I'll pay you $10,000 all right set it up to [ __ ] kick it in a cage with a bear yeah and
08:20:09TTS ReaderChloe you'll do it it's fun sounding y'all crazy bro yall crazy son that's crazy dude Daniel noser donated $20 they're going to roast you the level of retardation in this room is outstanding
08:20:22TTS ReaderI have never heard so much misinformation and disinformation in my life your usefulness to this nation is null along with your US citizenship that's
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08:21:29TTS Readerfirst a bear will start eating you alive right away and it will take you many agonizing minutes to bleed out use wisely your Power of
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08:21:49TTS Readerreally enjoyed the show FYI I am well off financially and cannot find a woman that is not so selfish
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08:22:34TTS Readerhow are babies made Disturbed this is for you you both of us a PO oh okay damn bro uh oh boy they're really coming for
08:22:44Brian Atlasyou oh boy random bear random bear just my personal opinion you chair five are a blank weird ow called and wants his hair come
08:22:57Brian AtlasW brickson for putting up with this idiocracy look she was good she was good um uh can we pull the the Bear meme Damian can you pull up the Bear