HEATED DEBATE With California Boss Babe Feminists?! Andrew Wilson! Goth Dating?! | Dating Talk #215
Date: 2024-11-25
Duration: 9h 08m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_02Lexi(guest)
SPEAKER_03Anka(guest)
SPEAKER_04Tiffany(guest)
SPEAKER_05Ellen(guest)
SPEAKER_06Gianna(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_09Rachel Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_10Alyssa(guest)
SPEAKER_12Pa(guest)
SPEAKER_13Chloe(guest)
SPEAKER_14Cena(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:14
IntroBrian Atlas opens the show with announcements: BLM (Big Labia Matter) nonprofit, WoW guild on Nightslayer realm, Molten Core raid Dec 12.
“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape I'm your host Brian Atlas”
00:03:20
IntroGianna introduces herself: 18, LA, model, studying psychology online at City College.
“hi I'm gaana I'm from Los Angeles I'm 18 and I'm a model”
00:03:51
IntroCena introduces herself: 18, Canada (Montreal), does OnlyFans, studying engineering. Brian notes she's a returning guest.
“hi I'm Cena I'm 18 my occupation I do only fan and I'm in school for engineering”
00:09:09
IntroChloe introduces herself: 20, lives in South Korea (only here temporarily), model and dancer, studied psychology in university.
“my name is yoa I'm 20 years old I live down in Korea so I actually I'm only here temporarily”
00:13:13
IntroAndrew Wilson introduces himself as host of The Crucible, political analyst.
“my name is uh Andrew Wilson I'm the host of the Cru Crucible it's a popular entertainment Channel on YouTube I'm political analyst”
00:32:00
RelationshipAlyssa reveals she's never officially been in a relationship, has a graveyard in her phone (changes exes to tombstones). Reveals her 4-year non-relationship was toxic/abusive. He cheated with her best friend while she was pregnant. She put water in his gas tank. Has a 3-year-old son.
“I have like a graveyard in my phone I don't know if anyone's seen that like once you're gone like you get three tombstones”
00:41:00
RelationshipAlyssa reveals she has had 2 abortions, was supposed to get a third but the ex never took her to the appointment (Missouri, abortion was illegal). Son's father told her if something happened to their son (who had a heart murmur) it was 'on my watch.' No child support, no contact.
“I wasn't supposed to I was supposed to get an abortion um oh and it didn't happen so”
00:51:00
Key MomentPa reveals her ankle injury: occurred during an upside-down 69 position (standing 69 → straddle handstand) with her 7-year situationship guy. Tripped over nightstand. Tells her boss a different story (tripped over a curb).
“he was just grabbing me me off from the bed um and because of I guess the like amount of drinks that we've had”
00:54:42
Key MomentChloe reveals she has Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, is blind in her left eye, went to hospital after sex ruptured an ovarian cyst. Graduated high school at 14.
“I'm tiny and um I'm like barely 53 and I have a genetic disorder”
01:09:00
QuoteTiffany on men liking submissive women: 'I don't think they have to but they usually do — men like to provide.' She also argues from 'Why Men Love Bitches' that overly submissive women bore men and men cheat. Andrew disagrees strongly.
“I think men should pay okay um I think I don't think they have to but they usually do”
01:31:20
Key MomentDebate: Zuckerberg (Facebook/Instagram) vs Tim Stokely (OnlyFans) — who caused more harm? Andrew: definitely OnlyFans, produces nothing good, creates parasocial relationships with lonely men. Alyssa and Cena defend OnlyFans. Most guests say Facebook.
“definitely only fans has done more damage”
01:51:40
QuotePa on having a party where she invited all 7 men she'd slept with and made them all wear pink to identify them — without them knowing.
“I only invited seven wait so seven dude was there an orgy afterwards”
02:00:00
ControversyChloe claims she witnessed two friends get shot by police in Jennings, MO at age 13 during Fight Club roughhousing. Andrew challenges the story vigorously, offers $500 for proof, says it would have been national news. Brian says Jennings is rough and takes her word.
“I have seen probably two people with my own eyes but then I have seen in passing as in like heard from everyone”
02:33:20
Key MomentPa's 7-year situationship guy confessed 'I think I'm in love with you' while they were together (he was drunk). She said 'ask me sober' — he hasn't. He then dropped off a book for her the morning of the show.
“he literally just whispered I think I like he said I think I'm in love with you”
03:04:50
Key MomentSelf-ratings round. Guests rate themselves 1-10. Gianna: 9. Cena: 8. Lexi: 7.5. Pa: 6.9-7.2. Chloe: 8. Ellen: 7. Anka: refused. Alyssa: 8.5. Tiffany: 8. Andrew: 10 (non-objective confidence). Discord sends AI-aged forward photos of each guest.
“go ahead I would say a decent 8.7 nine maybe I'll say nine”
03:37:42
Key MomentRachel Wilson (Andrew's wife) joins via Discord. Delivers detailed argument for homeschooling, stay-at-home motherhood, and birth rate concerns. Asks guests if women fighting to work was good; all said yes. Then asks if staying home is a privilege; all said yes. Rachel points out the contradiction. Asks who would choose babies over career if humanity died out otherwise.
“hello ladies hey Brian thanks for having me on”
04:11:10
QuoteAnka's most quotable moment: 'if Humanity ceases to exist but I get what I want, it's a fair trade-off.' (Later partially walked back.)
“so if it was like the man's going to me... I'd rather choose being mauled”
04:31:40
Key MomentBow video segment: Brian plays video of ex-girlfriend bowing and cooking dinner. Goes around table asking who would bow for their man. Only Tiffany semi-concedes. Brian argues bow takes 3 seconds vs man working 5 hours for a $100 date.
“boom huge bow huge bow and then you know she scampers to get the laundry done after”
05:09:00
ControversyAnka says 'if Humanity ceases to exist but I get what I want, that's a fair trade-off' during Rachel's career-vs-babies hypothetical. Chat erupts. Ogle donates saying she's 'disqualified herself from any future partner live on air.' Anka later clarifies she was partly trolling/rage-baiting.
“if it was like oh whatever I do says you know then Humanity's off but like I mean I'm doing what I want to do”
05:17:20
ControversyAnka estimates 50% of men in a forest and 40% of men alone in a room would assault her. Brian challenges the math (66 million American men). Andrew asks if she'd choose assured death over a random man in the forest — she says yes. Extended bear vs man vs velociraptor vs T-rex debate.
“I would say like in the forest if we're talking about just in the forest it's a 50/50”
06:02:21
Key MomentTrans debate: is it straight for a man to date a trans woman? Gianna, Anka say yes (straight regardless of surgery). Andrew and Brian argue two males having sex is homosexual by definition. Chloe nuanced (depends on surgery/genuine attraction). Brian sarcastically asks guests to 'affirm his identity' as being correct.
“so just to be clear uh would you guys agree that uh homosexual means same sex”
08:00:00
ControversyAt end of show, Chloe admits she was partly rage-baiting during the show after realizing it was political/debate-oriented rather than a light dating show. Says roughly half her extreme positions were genuine and half were trolling.
“I made a decision when I was going to come on here that if this is one of those rage bait more so political ones then I was just going to act just as rage baity”
Topics Discussed
00:03:20
Introductions & Relationship Status
Guests introduce themselves (name, age, location, occupation). Round of relationship statuses including Chloe's Korea story, Pa's 7-year situationship, Alyssa's abusive ex and child, Tiffany's long-distance relationship. Also covers Pa's ankle injury (sexual stunt).
00:51:00
Sex-Related Injuries & Health Stories
Pa's ankle fracture from upside-down-69 stunt. Chloe's ovarian cyst from sex (Ehlers-Danlos syndrome). Discussion of EDS symptoms.
00:56:10
Men Losing Weight / Loose Skin
TTS question about a man who lost 360lbs with loose skin — would guests date him? Mixed answers; Chloe says she wouldn't due to fear of them regaining weight.
00:59:55
Chloe's Korea Life & Family Background
Chloe discusses living in South Korea, her unusual family (mom on 5th husband, 23 siblings), why she can't date white men, debate with Andrew about sibship/dating logic.
01:13:20
Feminist Identity & Core Values
Do guests identify as feminist? Andrew's definition (egalitarianism). What are guests' core values? What do they bring to the table? Discussion of ideal man attributes.
01:24:20
OnlyFans vs Facebook — Societal Harm
TTS question: has Mark Zuckerberg or Tim Stokely (OnlyFans founder) done more harm? Andrew argues OnlyFans produces nothing good; Cena defends OnlyFans as helping lonely men.
02:43:00
Democracy vs Abortion & Political Questions
Would you support a bill tying abortion rights to military draft eligibility? Who's pro-life vs pro-choice? Would you choose democracy or abortion rights? Most chose democracy. Chloe says she doesn't like the US democracy.
03:04:50
Self-Ratings & Aging Attractiveness
Guests rate their own looks 1-10. Discussion of whether they'll be more attractive in 10/20/30 years. AI aging forward images shown. Self-ratings: Gianna 9, Cena 8, Lexi 7.5, Alyssa 8.5, Tiffany 8, Pa 6.9-7.2, Chloe 8, Andrew 10 (joke), Ellen 7.
03:37:42
Rachel Wilson on Homeschooling & Feminism
Andrew's wife Rachel Wilson calls in. Advocates homeschooling as superior (Tucker Carlson appearance). Argues feminism has led to birth rate collapse. Asks guests if women fighting to work was good, and if staying home is privilege. Heated exchange with Anka about career vs motherhood duty. Rachel argues society is unsustainable if women don't have children.
04:22:00
Who Should Pay on the First Date / Bow Video
Brian plays bow video of ex-girlfriend. Would guests bow for their man? None (except Tiffany conditionally). Debate about first-date paying norms — most expect men to pay. Brian's argument: bowing takes 3 seconds vs man working 5 hours for a $100 date.
05:09:00
Abortion, Women's Rights, Child Support
Do women have equal rights to men? Anka argues abortion is the one area of inequity. Brian points out men have zero reproductive rights. Debate: can a man legally avoid child support? Should taxpayers pay? Andrew's body-our-choice vs responsibility argument. Extended back-and-forth.
05:17:20
Man vs Bear Question
Would you rather encounter a random man or random bear alone in a forest? Chloe, Ellen, Alyssa, Anka chose bear. Gianna, Cena, Lexi, Pa, Tiffany chose man. Anka estimates 40% of men would assault her. Extended Velociraptor/T-Rex variants. Debate about whether bear-preference is sexist.
06:02:21
Trans Identity Debate
Is it straight for a man to date a trans woman? Most guests say yes (pre-op too). Brian and Andrew argue biologically two males having sex is homosexual. Chloe most nuanced; says depends on surgery and genuine attraction. Guests define "what is a woman." Extended philosophical debate with Andrew about self-ID logic.
07:59:00
Body Count Discussion
Is it hypocritical for a high-body-count man to require a low-body-count woman? Chloe says yes. Brian disagrees — asymmetrical attraction is not hypocrisy. Body count round: Gianna 0-5, Cena 3, Lexi 2, Pa 50-60, Chloe under 5, Ellen very low (0-3), Alyssa 100+ (stopped counting), Tiffany 0 (virgin), Anka declined.
08:00:00
Roast Session & Wrap-Up
TTS roast session at $20 threshold. Roasts directed at each chair. Chloe admits she was rage-baiting some answers when she realized the show was political. Final body count round. Brian thanks panelists. Wrap-up and raid.
Transcript
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04:38:51
Andrew Wilsonthat um when I came back from Greece so which was how long ago like four or five weeks ago okay so within the last five weeks
04:39:04
Payou've gone on three dates and you're saying that they've all been 50/50 except well I'm sorry two of were 50/50 and one was not really yeah I don't know I haven't been on like many dates I'm just like either at work
04:39:16
Andrew Wilsonor I'm traveling or doing my own thing all right I'm not concerned with the amount of dates you've been on I'm just curious as to who has paid when you have been on them I mean it kind of it really
04:39:27
Pajust like differs depending on like who chooses or who asks or you know if I want to play that game of card rette okay all right let's move it on
04:39:38
Lexiwhat about you I think the man is more likely toay I think also that if it's like a lot of first dates and stuff I think it might be a good idea for the guy to pay if he wants to
04:39:50
Lexilike put on this image that he can take care of you but I think once you're in a relationship especially for a while like I've paid for things for my exes and I've had taken care of the food if we
04:40:01
Giannawanted to go go out and eat but yeah sure what about you CA I think men should pay okay um I think I don't think
04:40:10
Brian Atlasthey have to but they usually do that's been your experience yes okay aanka going back to you you said that women should you disagree that women should go
04:40:21
Anka50/50 the entire relationship what do you mean by that I'm saying that I mean it's an option you know whoever wants to pay can pay like if I want to pick up all the bills for the rest of my
04:40:32
Ankarelationship but he wants to do something different I don't like if I want to pay for all the restaurants but then he wants to pay for all the like movies and other outings they could do that
04:40:44
Ankauh so you disagree with going 50/50 the entire relationship or like it could be 60 40 you know 7030 just depends on what you make it as okay um so I guess my
04:40:56
Brian Atlasconfusion here in relation to the bow video it's weird to me though like you guys think that this is some grand grand ask but a
04:41:09
Brian Atlaslot of not all of you but a lot of women have an expectation that men do certain tasks or men have certain uh duties when it comes to dating courtship relationships uh some women might expect
04:41:20
Brian Atlasa man to open a car door for example might expect a man to protect you in some sort of scenario but specifically when it comes to paying for first
04:41:30
Brian AtlasAIDS so let's assume for a second that you're and I'm uh being charitable I guess on the cost of a first date let's say the cost of a first date is the
04:41:40
Brian Atlasequivalent to one hour of work for the man say makes $20 an hour the date is $20 this is actually probably very
04:41:51
Brian Atlasunlikely but I don't know it takes you out for a hot dog or a burger or tacos or something realistically I think a lot of men are probably going to pay $50 to
04:42:00
Brian Atlas$100 on a first date uh if he works 20 hour $20 an hour a lot of men don't even make that much that's 5 hours of work for him to take treat you to a first
04:42:12
Brian Atlasdate so if women's expectation is men should pay for first dates or if they're the ones asking they should pay for the date the translation there essentially
04:42:22
Brian Atlaswhat you're saying is men should labor for 5 hours to treat me on a date but I can't do a bow which takes no effort that's where I'm confused so going to
04:42:33
Brian Atlasyou you you were very much had a strong objection to the to the request if a boyfriend were to request that you bow but you said the guy should pay for the first date the entailment of that is
04:42:45
Brian Atlasthat if he's working $20 an hour and he takes you out on a $100 date you're saying he has to work five hours he let's say he works a a physical labor job construction job he has to
04:42:56
Brian Atlasphysically labor for five hours if he wants my time how is this not worse than a guy asking for a bow to me specifically to you because
04:43:06
Brian Atlasyou said I would never do a bow but you want a guy to pay for the first date I said I'd prefer it would let me ask you a question you go you go
04:43:17
Brian Atlason a date with a guy he asks you out you get a dinner I don't know it's 40 60 bucks whatever the waiter comes and he says two
04:43:29
Brian Atlaschecks is there me a second date with that guy if I like his Personality yeah so he has to make up for a detriment in his conduct by being more cares
04:43:43
Ellenatic I mean or have a better personality you said you would prefer a guy to pay for the first date I would prefer it why I think it's just like a nice gesture but I wouldn't be opposed to
04:43:56
Brian Atlaspaying myself okay but it is a traditional gender rule right I think it's yeah it's let me let
04:44:07
Brian Atlasme ask the panel this uh for any of you here if a guy wanted to go 50/50 on the first date waiter comes he says two checks you got to pay is there going to
04:44:16
Giannabe a second date no no no no second date no not if he just says two checks
04:44:28
Giannalike no if if he's like talks about it oh why why would he have to talk about it he's got to have your permission to go 50/50 no I feel like it's more of like a respect thing than just to what
04:44:39
Giannado you mean know we're going to go 5050 then just saying like he needs to confer with you no like if I wanted to pay he needs to check to make sure you're willing yeah if I wanted to pay or if he
04:44:52
Brian Atlaswanted to pay full you guys are so it's so entitled totally entitled Behavior imagine if I as a guy said you know what she's got a check with like my
04:45:02
Brian Atlasexpectation as a guy is that you pay the entire bill for me and maybe I'll be considerate but you have to consult with me first before I even consider going 50/50 with
04:45:14
Giannayou you would [ __ ] laugh at that dude you'd be like what the [ __ ] I mean if I want to pay do you pay I want to what do you mean I put my card on the thing but
04:45:26
Brian Atlasthey just they swap it out you know it's not but my confusion here is that you guys have all these expectations on guys and it's like but if we look at something very simple look I know some
04:45:39
Brian Atlasof you are okay with 50/50 some of you would be fine splitting the bill but there's enough women out there who would be like absolutely not if he wants to go 50/50 there's not going to be a second
04:45:50
Brian Atlasdate it's a done deal it's like and those same women will be like they'll be total feminist too they'll be like no I won't pay for the bill blah BL I won't split it's like okay so you won't bow
04:46:02
Brian Atlasfor a guy which takes no effort takes 3 seconds to do but you the entailment of you expecting a guy to pay for the entire bill is that if he's working a
04:46:13
Brian Atlas$20 an hour job and the Bill's $100 the entailment of that is you expect a man to work five hours to be able to take
04:46:23
Brian Atlasyou out so what's a bigger ask a guy saying I would like a woman to bow to me or you saying every single time we hang out and we go to dinner you have to work 5 hours of your life just for the
04:46:34
Brian Atlasprivilege of getting to take me out what's a bigger ask tell me the dinner why because it's five hours versus three seconds of your
04:46:45
Brian Atlastime so is the fair is the fair proposition then for that women should bow to men it's if I got a [ __ ] shovel some B if I got a shovel for
04:46:56
Tiffany[ __ ] 5 hours to take you out I would bow that's on you though why that you're not you're not capable enough to make like $50 an hour or $100 an hour bro
04:47:07
Tiffanyy'all are hold on the average y'all are 18 how many how much money and Men actually want to pay for dates men naturally like providing for women they like women don't want to bow for men they don't don't want to be submissive
04:47:20
Tiffanywe don't want to be that's a feminist mind does not equal bowing bowing is weird it's like a form of worship it's oh my bowing is so it's not a form of
04:47:30
Tiffanyworship bowing is not a form wait so if an atheist weird and actually men don't like maids when women bow bow to them and cook for them and clean for them and
04:47:41
Tiffanytake care of everything hold on what and and cater to them all the time no that's that's when men actually go out and cheat men like the
04:47:51
Brian Atlaschase Tiffany what the what are you talking about men just to be clear so uh men don't like it when when women do all these things for them yeah they they think they do but they actually don't I
04:48:03
Andrew Wilsonwould disagree no my God this this is this is this is like they think they think that they want a non vexing submissive woman but what really want as woman who acts like a [ __ ] all the time what was I what were we thinking we were
04:48:15
Andrew Wilsonway that's exactly right men love [ __ ] there's a whole book about here I was thinking that men prefer to have women who are completely non vexing and generally take care of their roles in
04:48:26
Andrew Wilsonthe in the home because that's what all of them report but as it turns out I was wrong what they really want is somebody to be an annoying brat and Vex them all day gez I wish that I had known that earlier
04:48:41
Brian AtlasTiffany that's fake news bro that's fake news not fake news they so you're saying men want uh like quarrelsome
04:48:53
Brian Atlasdisagreeable non-helpful nons submissive women that's is that what you think men want non you said like I submission doesn't
04:49:05
Brian Atlasequal bowing if I say I would argue exactly be submissive I want you to do
04:49:15
Brian Atlasthis wouldn't that be submissive and you don't you do it and you don't oh I want to have a conversation about it I want to question it wouldn't you just do it wouldn't that be
04:49:25
Tiffanysubmissive submiss men like submission to an extent when it's too much and the girl doesn't have her own mind
04:49:34
Brian Atlasand basically will bow down to them they don't like it what have you tried to do this with a man like what evidence
04:49:44
Brian Atlasso men are that's just what evidence do you have that this is true I guess I did you just make it up in your
04:49:55
Tiffanyhead no it's it just sounds good right just common knowledge no it's common knowledge it's common it just sounds good no it's common knowledge from
04:50:05
Brian Atlaswho the experience of the experiences of many women wait so just to be clear one thing one thing really quick one thing really quick so when you say experiences of women so the experiences
04:50:17
Brian Atlasof women are men will like you less if you treat them well you do nice things for them you're helpful you help them out with
04:50:28
Brian Atlascertain uh household duties you're saying men detest these these things in women and and they much prefer and they'd much prefer dealing
04:50:38
Brian Atlaswith a woman who refuses to do yes they hate they hate it they hate they they hate they hate women who who are submissive essentially no I think in a
04:50:50
Alyssaway it's to an extent no I think she's saying like they get bored get bored yeah they do okay I have an input I'm sorry okay you're talking about a man I think you're talking about a boy to be
04:51:02
Alyssahonest there's a difference wait me or no like you're talking about a man so yes a man wants someone to be submissive yes a man wants to take care of home and
04:51:10
Alyssafor the you know his woman to you know all that but a boy does not a boy is
04:51:18
Andrew Wilsonwho essentially likes the drama and the toxic and the back and forth and all of that actually really good point like I think I would tend to I think yeah there
04:51:32
Tiffanytwo different things two two different things he's not way that's why in movies we always see we always see um the portrayal of when the the the wife's at home and she's
04:51:43
Andrew Wilsoncalling her husband at work oh babe we are you going to come home I I have dinner made for you and then the guy go we don't see that in movies at all what we see in movies and what we see in media is Homer Simpson and men are
04:51:55
Andrew Wilsonportrayed as bumbling [ __ ] idiots that for some reason are uh just happened to gallivant through life working at a nuclear power plant eating
04:52:04
Andrew WilsonDonuts right why everybody ignores how incompetent they are and if only if only it weren't for that beautiful wife who is somehow skinny and petite married to
04:52:16
Andrew Wilsonthis big fat bald guy wasn't there to correct his endless bad behavior why men just couldn't get along it's like give me a break with this [ __ ] men are portrayed in the worst light possible let me give you an example there was a
04:52:29
Andrew Wilsonshow when I was growing up called Home Improvement right where the entire theme of this of the show was that uh the guy was an incompetent [ __ ] who couldn't
04:52:40
Andrew Wilsoneven handle the power to tools on his own show and his wife had to run the entire family dynamic in fact I can give you show after show after show where this is the case get tell me the show
04:52:51
Andrew Wilsonwhere the woman is the nice petite 1950 style housewife who greets him at the door with dinner in modernity she go tell me tell me what that show is called also I don't think Hollywood hang on let
04:53:04
Andrew Wilsonher let her answer tell me what the show is called what is it called I don't know yeah it's called it's called you just made it the [ __ ] up that's I I did it though anyway yeah they did it yeah they they did it in the 1950s with with the
04:53:16
Andrew Wilsonwith the Cleavers from Leave it to Bieber maybe but they don't do it in maternity men don't really know the psychology of themselves what like they don't understand themselves what book
04:53:29
Tiffanywhat stupid book did you read that's just how men are what's the stupid book you read no it's not a book that's just how you said it was a book it was like men love [ __ ] women or something it's
04:53:37
Tiffanyit's titled why women why men love [ __ ] who wrote it I don't know a woman probably yeah men women understand the
04:53:49
Tiffanypsyche of men better than men understand the psyche of themselves wait women understand the psyche of men better than men understand
04:53:58
Andrew Wilsonthis it's by a woman It Is by a woman Sherry Argo right of course it's made by
04:54:05
Andrew Wilsona woman Oh Sherry twice divorced by the way twice SC right she knows she knows what women want doesn't
04:54:17
Brian Atlasshe let I I want to ask the panel do you guys think that men want [ __ ] women no no anybody here think men prefer [ __ ]
04:54:27
Cenawomen over they only prefer [ __ ] women because they can't get women uh like if you think about it like
04:54:38
Cenathose boys who are like oh like I don't want a girl who listens blah blah blah like I'll bow down to this girl blah blah blah it's because they can't get wom and once they get a woman they're going to do everything they can to keep
04:54:49
Cenaher but a man if he has so many options why would he tolerate yeah that no that's a good point I mean uh there are men out there who like
04:55:01
Brian Atlascan't get anything else so they're going to either they don't know what else is out there they think that's normal or they just don't have any other options
04:55:10
Brian Atlasso they're are just going to tolerate men will put up a with a lot for some [ __ ] like they
04:55:20
Brian Atlaswill they'll put up with a lot if they don't get [ __ ] if they get [ __ ] they're not they're going to put up very little and then you're going to be gone or they're just going to keep you around for sex and then you'll never
04:55:32
Brian Atlasget a commitment from him but if you [ __ ] up and you know you start uh winging or whatever the [ __ ] he's like yeah I'm not going to
04:55:42
Brian Atlasdate take this girl seriously um anyways where were we I forgot we were talking about uh who should pay on the first date oh yeah you guys hate the bow for some reason but you want a guy to pay
04:55:55
Cenafor the first date it's like kind of confusing we have two three chats we're going to read uh Cena go for it the reason why the woman say I don't know when they are asked who paid on the date
04:56:06
Brian Atlasis because they just show up and they never even notice that there is a bill female privilege female privilege Yo La paladins thank you for the uh message
04:56:17
Brian Atlasman really appreciate it we do have let's see the what the heck okay um sure read this one ask the panel if China declared war under the moral authority
04:56:28
Cenaof dismantling whiteness and decolonization what is this dir would you side with China or would you stand
04:56:38
Brian Atlaswith the United States of America that's a wild question but [ __ ] it we'll do it um wildly awesome it's a wildly awesome question so would you side with China or would you stand with the United States
04:56:51
Giannaof America if starting with you I don't do politics you got to pick one though no okay um what was the full question because there was like I mean it's not
04:57:03
Giannajust would you side with China or United States yeah here I'll pull it back up again and I'll have you read it for us go ahead panel of China declared war under the moral authority of dismantling
04:57:14
Giannawhiteness and de calization directives would you side with China or would you side with the United States of America okay
04:57:27
Brian Atlasum China or the United States can you re word it I wanted to read it one more time okay China declares war and the re the pretext the
04:57:39
Brian Atlasjustification for the war is they're they want to dismantle whiteness and they want to they think America is a colonizer and for this reason they're declaring war
04:57:52
Brian AtlasChina declaring war against the United States do you stand with China or do you stand with the United States okay then I would stand with the United States United States United States
04:58:07
Ellenus oh um would it be okay if I just don't answer this one are you like you don't want to like offend the CCP or I just don't really like to talk about
04:58:18
Ankalike political stances oh I mean I can't force you to answer the question so uh okay I don't think I'm that informed on
04:58:30
Brian Atlasthis topic specifically well there's nothing to be it's a hypothetical there's nothing to be informed about I mean I guess the US sweet okay I have a serious question um I'm
04:58:43
Andrew Wilsonsorry I have a serious what is whiteness like from the progressive standpoint or the actual standpoint like what is what is the question asking like
04:58:55
Andrew Wilsonyeah so the question is asking from a progressive standpoint uh whiteness would be the idea that uh white men and women are privileged over every other class and the reason that they are is
04:59:05
Andrew Wilsonbecause uh throughout history uh inside of the United States everything has been favorable towards them and so they have a leg up over all other ethnicities that
04:59:16
Andrew Wilsonthey wouldn't ordinarily have if it wasn't due to colonialism and uh essentially white power I would stand with China the
04:59:29
Andrew WilsonUS well for all of you who answered that uh and said that you would stand with the US welcome to conservatism glad to see you over here based
04:59:40
Cenaall right we have Lucas uh Cena can you read it bit late here but curious what language we'd be speaking today if the UN based on the bashed
04:59:55
Cenasolipsism exhibited by Cherry 7 during her combo with Rachel paded those 17 to 23
05:00:03
Cenaboys I'll pull it back up on June 6th 1944 as they prepared
05:00:14
Brian Atlaswait what are are you talking about the US wait on June 6 is that wait June 6th that was uh dday I think that was it wasn't that
05:00:25
Brian Atlasthe preparation for D-Day that was D-Day right I mean but like what language we wouldn't even it honestly Andrew oh no this is a dating podcast not historical
05:00:37
Brian AtlasI even if America didn't actually do a land invasion of Europe R oh we would be speaking wait hold on we wouldn't be speaking German
05:00:48
Andrew Wilsonbecause Russia behind there was is you would be speaking German but well no to your point to your point likely no you still wouldn't we still wouldn't even if
05:00:58
Brian AtlasAmerica yeah I mean Russia was going to yeah so um it is an interesting question though I mean would we per maybe speaking Russian like if if cuz uh with
05:01:10
Andrew WilsonAmerica's help and intervention we prevented like Russia would have just look I don't know wouldn't Russia have just taken no well no I mean nothing would have happened right like you can't
05:01:21
Andrew Wilsonyou can't externally invade the United States and win it's not POS the whole world could do it the whole world could land on the beaches of New York and invade and they wouldn't have a chance no I'm not saying that but Russia would
05:01:32
Brian Atlashave taken more territory in Europe yes that's correct but to I mean but at that point Russia was part of the
05:01:42
Andrew WilsonAllied Powers Yeah I don't know I don't know I don't know what Europe would have be Europe would be speaking Russian
05:01:53
Brian AtlasEurope would it would be very different okay we have Lucas here uh with a followup go ahead CA two to the storm the beaches of
05:02:04
CenaNority Duty obligation responsibility accountability Etc is non-existent and genz women truly
05:02:12
Brian Atlasthe apotheosis apotheosis theal female yeah you got it oh hold on pull it back
05:02:20
Brian Atlasup narcissism combined with the males males of luxury I didn't even say it right damn bro he's just throwing
05:02:32
Brian Atlasout those crazy words just to trip you up Cena he's just throwing it out to trip you up yo Lucas thank you for the chats man really appreciate it let's get into the questionnaire then shall we actually before we get to the question
05:02:43
Brian Atlasquestionnaire uh for you earlier on in the conversation I heard you say you you mention I forgot the context you mentioned women's rights and Reproductive Rights do you recall what the context was I wrote those down but
05:02:55
Brian Atlaswhat was the context um it was just that um what I look for in a man and I said that what he needs to be aligned at least politically with me he needs to be aligned politically with you he needs to
05:03:04
Brian Atlasbe supportive of women's rights and Reproductive Rights when you um just for clarification for any of the men out there who might be interested in dating you uh or just for the sake of the
05:03:14
Brian Atlasconversation when you say supportive of women's rights uh what do you what do you mean by that women's right to education women's rights to um an
05:03:26
Ankaabortion um uh women's rights to be equal with men women's right to have a career Etc sure but so are you saying that women don't have those things currently they do I'm just just saying
05:03:38
Ankafrom yourent you know men who want that submissive woman and that they want that woman that wants to be stay at home wife and I don't want that and that's what I want him to align with I see okay so you're not arguing that women don't have
05:03:51
Brian Atlasthese rights no but there needs to be a continuity of support of existing rights yes okay all right um uh I guess on that going getting into
05:04:03
Brian Atlasthe questionnaire for the whole panel uh I know some of you probably answered in the negative on this but uh do you guys think that when it comes to women's rights are there any right
05:04:14
Brian Atlaslike do women have equal rights to men show of hands do women have equal rights okay let me reframe the question
05:04:25
Brian Atlasthen uh we do have equal rights are there any rights that a man has that a woman does not starting with you I
05:04:35
Giannaguess um not that I can think of at the top of my head
05:04:42
Lexiokay um going around the table then
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Lexino um I'm assuming this is like going towards abortion so I'd say if abortion was illegal then that would be one right
05:05:01
Brian Atlasthat a man has over a woman is that a woman doesn't get full say in healthcare well I mean men don't have any Reproductive Rights at all so it's not
05:05:11
Brian Atlaswouldn't wouldn't equality between men and women be to um have a National Abortion B would that not be
05:05:21
Brian Atlasequality I'm not sure what do you mean I'm just not sure well if men don't have any rights when it comes to their reproduction wouldn't that entail that
05:05:32
Brian Atlasin order for there to be quality women wouldn't be allowed to have any rights when it comes to their reproduction ero there would be uh no right to an abortion would that not be equality
05:05:43
Brian Atlasthen um sure okay so then you're in favor of equality on this topic yeah okay so you're in favor of walking back abortion
05:05:54
Brian Atlasrights for women then no so you're in favor of inequality between men and women in favor of women having more rights that I just think a woman should be able to decide and that's just my stance yeah but I just
05:06:07
Brian Atlasjust to be clear you're in favor of an inequality of Rights between men and women something that favors more rights to women than to men I
05:06:18
Paguess okay sure a lot of women have that position um going around the table um I don't think there are any rights that
05:06:28
Chloemen have more than women okay are we talking strictly legally or also privilege like day-to-day base I'm talking like
05:06:40
Chloebut we could also have a separate conversation about I guess privileges if we are talking from a legal standpoint I don't think there's much nowadays
05:06:50
Brian Atlasinequality as far as that goes MH okay um I feel like I have to think about this question a little bit more you mean I mean you've had a minute while we've gone around the
05:07:05
Brian Atlastable yeah then I just prefer not to answer the question I mean it's like I've given you quite a bit of leeway already on refusing to answer I mean
05:07:16
Brian Atlasyou've written no opinion on a lot of these things I feel like you do have opinions you're just kind of being like intellect uh it's like intellectual cowardice you just don't feel comfortable stating your actual opinion
05:07:29
Brian Atlasis that fair to say it's not intellectual cowardice I just don't really want to publicize My Views so you do have an opinion you're just scared to share it I'll accept that but I mean at
05:07:40
Brian Atlasleast a concession that you're not willing to State your opinion I would just like a little bit of privacy if that's available to
05:07:49
Brian Atlasme I suppose it excuse me I suppose it's just you've come on the podcast to talk so it's kind of counterintuitive but um what about you what was the
05:08:01
Ankaquestion uh it's it's definitely a nuanced question I think that yes on paper women have equal rights to men um but you know if you're in a country
05:08:13
Ankawhere yes like if we're talking about abortion you know your child has um a extreme deformity they won't make it out of the womb alive and you're forced to
05:08:24
Andrew Wilsoncarry this pregnancy and it kills you in the end the man did have more right in this and say in the situation well how so wait wait well and not only that but
05:08:36
Andrew Wilsonany time the abortion argument comes up up the argument is never between the life of the child and the mother for like an atopic pregnancy or something like that that's already been
05:08:47
Andrew Wilsonrelinquished it's always the default that if it's going to be that the baby actually has the chance of killing the mother from some sort of delivery at that point uh everybody agrees religious
05:08:59
Andrew Wilsonand non that you would default for the life of the mother at that point and there's good reasons behind that so like but that's that's not really what's ever entailed in the abortion question almost
05:09:10
Ankano abortion ever happens because of those reasons almost zero of them there have been multiple multiple cases in red states where a mom has identified that her child has an abnormality that it
05:09:22
Ankawon't live out of the fetus and it's a danger to herself to deliver this child and she wasn't allowed the access to abortion that's never happened you can literally look it up yeah I'm I'll literally look it up right now tell me
05:09:32
Ankawhere there was recently a 16-year-old like it was on the operating table she died because it was a risk to her life and this child cannot be aborted earlier on I'm not sure where I
05:09:45
Andrew Wilsonread up on the case it was a while ago I don't remember all the details yeah no that doesn't happen if this is and by the way this is a matter of law they're supposed to default to the life of the mother in the case of inpic pregnancy where there's a
05:09:58
Andrew Wilsondeformity which could kill the mother they always will do the procedure to save the mother's life so I I don't literally that's just sounds like propaganda so to be as maximum
05:10:10
Andrew Wilsoncharitable 16-year-old on operting operating table can't have abortion and it kills her right yes okay and it kills her let's see do you know where this
05:10:21
Brian Atlashappened I I don't know I don't remember I know it's in a red state where I mean so Andrew even granting that this happened I still don't think that this
05:10:30
Brian Atlasis actually evidence of uh some sort of because when we're talking about uh rights and the comparison of rights between men and women equal rights equal
05:10:41
Brian Atlasrights would indicate that there's a comparison being made okay so here I found the I found the case okay at at least this is the only case I can find uh but this was happening due to a
05:10:54
Andrew Wilsonmiscarriage and they were suing because of a uh the miscarriage should have been sped up in order to deliver the fetus exactly at that point hang on at that point that was safer though the doctors
05:11:05
Andrew Wilsonsay it was safer to deliver the fetus they were unaware uh of any pre-existing condition that would have have affected the health of the mother so she was miscarrying and they're being sued for malpractice
05:11:18
Ankabecause they didn't do the correct things they were supposed to do but that really doesn't make your case but this case is happening more literally in Texas they're not teaching certain chapters of the OBGYN residency to their
05:11:30
Ankaresidents because it's not in align with their views and they have to fly out to different states like chapters on abortion give um chapter on um
05:11:41
Ankaperforming abortions Andrew let's just grant it though for what though like but for what instances the instances if you cannot physically deliver this child and it's a
05:11:53
Andrew Wilsondetriment to you then you have there no no there is not any no nobody is refusing to teach OBGYNs in Texas that if the health of the mother and the welfare of the mother is at stake
05:12:05
Andrew Wilsonmeaning she's going to die if she goes into delivery for this kid that they can't do an emergency abortion that is completely nonsense I would love to know you can even send it to me after the
05:12:17
Andrew Wilsonshow but there's no way that that's true there's no simply no way that that's true but are or are they not omitting education yeah I me depends on what it depends on what the education is for
05:12:29
Andrew Wilsonlike okay Public Schools probably omit education for how to build a nuclear bomb yeah so what like good they should omit that education so you need you would need to tell me what the education
05:12:41
Ankais they're omitting and how it would be pertinent to this idea one sec or go ahead go ahead I'm saying it's pertinent because you should teach everything I don't know I know
05:12:52
Ankayou're asking me to say specific examples but if you are in any state in the US did you teach kids how to build ues no because I'm talking about OBG we should teach everything I'm talking about I'm talking about the OB Joan
05:13:05
Andrew Wilsonresidency specifically for medical students cuz that's per the situation if there's a moral dilemma like would you teach a doctor how to poison patients no right so there's all sorts of things that you wouldn't teach people
05:13:17
Andrew Wilsonor in a residency if there's a moral dilemma so the the question is like absent whatever the specific education you're talking about in regards to abortion if it's outside the scope of the moral dilemma why would you teach it to
05:13:29
Ankathem it's not outside the scope of the moral dilemma though then what is it I'm saying they should have full access to know everything whether or not they can that is up to each state yeah
05:13:44
Andrew Wilsonwhy you don't know you don't know why they should have access to all that you can't tell me what it is they not being educated in you can't tell me what state it's in you can't tell me any of these specific cases but you're adamant that it's happening that doesn't sound like
05:13:56
Andrew Wilsoncomplete fake news to you like Poss Democrat propagandizing you can look it up I just looked it up I couldn't find the case anywhere the
05:14:07
Andrew Wilsononly case that I could find was in this miscarriage I couldn't find any case of the mother's actual uh you know body uh going to die based on a previous
05:14:18
Andrew Wilsondiagnosis of a of an of an abnormality that's complete nonsense and by the way the reason Democrats lost the most recent election is because there was women all over the place saying [ __ ] like this and when people would look it
05:14:30
Andrew Wilsonup they found out it was [ __ ] it was total [ __ ] when we get down to it the real moral dilemma of abortion does not come down to Z .1% of them which
05:14:41
Andrew Wilsonhappens uh when it affects the life of the mother almost no abortion is done that way can you at least agree with that almost zero abortion done in the United States has anything to do with the life of the
05:14:53
Ankamother okay but what about if the if it was a 10-year-old and then you're not you know you're not agreeing with the life of the mother it it's not it's not that's true
05:15:03
Andrew Wilsonand I'll I'll directly contend with this okay then we can agree if you were ESS a party sexually assaulted at a party does that mean that you can go home and kill another one of your
05:15:15
Ankakids sorry what's the question again if you were sa at a party and you had two children could you go home and then kill one of them because you were sa did you or did you not consent answer my
05:15:26
Andrew Wilsonquestion before you ask me child I'll answer yours but answer mine so to start with if you are s at a party does it give you the right to go home and un
05:15:36
Andrew Wilsonalive one of your kids no why because that's the life you're taking that exist that's right and so that's the exact counterargument to the argument of you being sa and delivering you don't have a right to then take the
05:15:49
Andrew Wilsonlife of somebody else even though a horrible thing happened to you but you're forced to carry through with it you're not forcing him to do anything you're saying that they're not allowed to kill somebody else who's external to them but you're forcing the woman to go
05:16:01
Andrew Wilsonthrough why I say AAA people all the time to not murder people that's true okay well can we can we please move on another why does it make you uncomfortable that there's a
05:16:11
Ankacounterargument here I I mean I we're having a reasonable conversation you know I I would say that yes I would do need to do more research on the
05:16:22
Brian Atlastopic that's all I'm going to say all right uh so I mean even granting all that stuff I'm you wrote here that uh
05:16:34
Brian Atlaswomen you disagree that women have equal rights to men you also disagree that there is no right a man has that a woman does not uh is there anything I mean you brought up the abortion thing I don't really
05:16:46
Brian Atlasthink that's compelling is there any other right no so just that one I mean that is pretty major one but yes right but so I
05:16:58
Brian Atlasmean considering that men don't have any Reproductive Rights it's not clear to me if this is like an inequality between men and women does that make sense I
05:17:08
Brian Atlasmean it takes two people to make a child so they both should have an equal say so if a man wants a woman to have an abortion but she wants to keep the child he should be able to force her to have
05:17:19
Ankaan abortion no oh so he doesn't have a choice then I don't know why you're throwing these situations at me right now I mean
05:17:30
Brian Atlasthis is a pretty frequent situation that occurs I mean obviously men can't compel women to get abortions but for example like a guy could be on the hook for 18
05:17:40
Brian Atlasyears of his life of child support if he you know didn't want to have a kid and she lies about being on birth control it was a casual encounter she keeps the kid
05:17:51
Brian AtlasI mean these situations do I'm not in favor of men being I don't think men should be able to force women to get abortions but like I'm just a bit confused there I mean in that case no
05:18:02
Andrew Wilsonit's not fair to the man right that's why it has to be their body our choice
05:18:12
Brian Atlasokay um okay but again like I just when it comes to this abortion thing men don't have a right any Reproductive
05:18:21
Brian AtlasRights so you saying uh that you disagree that uh women have equal rights to men there is no right a man has that a woman does not it doesn't occur to me
05:18:32
Brian Atlasthat they're like as it currently stands absent either men being able to compel a female sexual partner to get an abortion or just an outright abortion
05:18:44
Brian Atlasban there there is an inequality between men and women and this inequality is to the I suppose well it depends on your side of the aisle seems to be a right that women
05:18:56
Brian Atlaspossess that men don't in terms of okay you will you will agree okay so Road v Wade pushed it back to the States so there are states where women can still get abortions correct
05:19:08
Brian Atlasyes okay there is there any state where a man has any Reproductive Rights no okay so in order to create equality between men and women you have states
05:19:20
Brian Atlaswhere women have a right correct like for example you have a right to get abortion in California yes what corresponding right do men have in California pertaining to this
05:19:31
Brian Atlastopic so you would have to concede then that women have a right that men don't correct on I guess yeah on your term right because men can't again there
05:19:42
Ankathere is no uh I mean in your case are can are men forced to go through that pregnancy are they forced to carry the child are they then forced to make a choice whether to adopt or then raise this
05:19:55
Brian Atlaschild for the next 18 years so you can't really say that we're equal on that standpoint biologic sure there's there's biological differences but when it comes to rights what right does the man have in
05:20:07
Ankathis situation that the woman doesn't the woman has the right to abortion the man has a right to nothing of on the paper on paper yes what you're saying is right I'm saying
05:20:20
Ankathis is much more of a Nuance to take than you're putting it out to be it's very black and white how you're saying it right now I what is the Nuance I'm failing to see the Nuance that women have they reproductively we have a
05:20:31
Ankauterus that we're forced to carry this child if yes it's in terms of always forced to okay I I'll give you that but if it's rape as say you're too young then you're forced to carry out this
05:20:42
Ankapregnancy and then decide if you want to keep it or not and men can just walk away I mean hold on in California in any state I mean you know what I agreed
05:20:54
Andrew Wilsonlet's just make the concession for the sake of argument that if you're essed underage or essed at all or you have an atopic pregnancy where it would affect your life in those instances only we
05:21:05
Andrew Wilsonwill go ahead and Grant that you can go ahead and have an abortion you're saying do I you still want abortion absent those things right yes
05:21:17
Andrew Wilsonso you only are arguing those things as the outliers because because you're demanding based on those outliers that everybody has the right to abort anyway so we'll just grant it for the sake of argument what could your argument
05:21:29
Andrew Wilsonpossibly be then that there there's no B like uh there's no um rights infringing upon abortion is that what you're saying no I'm just saying that even if Brian Wen
05:21:42
Andrew Wilsonto grant for you okay under the cases of sa and if the mother's life is at risk you can have an abortion but all other abortions are outlawed why is that problematic it's because I believe in
05:21:53
Brian Atlasthe woman's Choice that's right that's it yes that's it okay that's my take but so I'm just again confused because you said you disagree that women have equal
05:22:06
Brian Atlasrights to men there is no right a man has the woman does not is there anything besides the and I it's not clear to me that this abortion conversation it pertains at all
05:22:18
Brian Atlasbecause men don't have any sort of Reproductive Rights is there anything else when it comes to women not having equal rights besides
05:22:28
Brian Atlasthis no okay so do you have equal rights to men in California in California yes in California yes okay um what do you think about just really
05:22:40
Brian Atlasquick on this topic then I'm going to move things along um the man doesn't want to have the kid uh the woman wants to keep the kid what do you tell to what do you say to the
05:22:52
Brian Atlasman if the man doesn't want the kid and the woman is what's his remedy if any they should sit down have a conversation if that's not working the the the woman is stead fast and she's made a choice
05:23:04
Brian Atlasthat she's going to keep the child and he should concede his rights to the child what do you mean conceive his rights like give up his rights give up his parental rights and walk away okay so a man and this is applies to every
05:23:16
Brian Atlassingle state in this country he can he can uh revoke parental rights uh paternal uh he can revoke
05:23:27
Ankathose rights he's still on the hook for child support you realize this right yes doesn't seem very fair does it no and I would argue in that case that um you should not have to pay the child support
05:23:39
Brian Atlasbut that's the way the systems built that is the way the system is built I agree yeah uh why don't you think there's more feminists fighting to abolish uh child
05:23:50
Ankasupport given the unfairness of it for men I'm not sure I mean I would I would say that if he wants no part in raising the child then I don't want his money either and that this is my choice to
05:24:02
Brian Atlaskeep the child um I don't know I don't know why that's not the case all right we have a message here from it's the oh sorry I'll just read it really quick uh Brian you ruined the theme of my D-Day
05:24:13
Brian Atlasquestion yes I get it the USSR after Stalingrad were likely on their way to Victory point was that those young boys did their Duty without question equivocation okay that's a fair point
05:24:24
Andrew WilsonLucas I do appreciate it thank you for the message um so couldn't it be the case then that the reason that the state intercedes on this on the behalf of making the man pay the child's report is because if he doesn't and the woman who
05:24:36
Andrew Wilsondecides that she's going to keep the child even in Le of the man not wanting the child the state says well that burden shouldn't go to taxpayers who are not his father or mother it should go instead to the parents so then would you
05:24:49
Andrew Wilsonuh then support cutting off public assistance to women so that men who equally do not have any paternity over this child should not have to then pay
05:25:00
Ankafor this child who is not theirs um I understand the question I mean I know that's it's it's very controversial um I I think that in the
05:25:13
Ankastance that we want to lower the abortion rate and if if the child does come out I think that the mom would need to get some support in some type of
05:25:23
Andrew Wilsonway now she's now she's ryant not on herself but is rying upon the taxpayer so the reason the state intercedes and says that the father has to pay child support is so that the woman's not
05:25:34
Andrew Wilsonreliant on the taxpayer but instead uh gives responsibility to the parents themselves so if that's the case and you feel like it's unfair that men pay child support if women get the right to choose then how come the taxpayer doesn't get
05:25:46
Ankathe right to choose um I would I would say it's unfair I'm
05:25:59
AnkaI'm I would say that if the mom chose to kept the child and you know the taxpayers really care about the welfare of each and every child fetus you know what like whatever life that gets
05:26:12
TTS Readerbrought into this world then they will pay for that child to be raised and I think it that way but this bucks the question donated $200 I got move I'll
05:26:22
TTS Readerlet ask question someone who's actually smart but has been brainwashed it's sad to see and I sincerely hope she wakes up sometime life tip hang around with people who disagree with you Ogle thank
05:26:35
Andrew Wilsonyou for the TTS uh Andrew I do have to move it on but I'll have you ask your question and then we'll yeah just very quickly the the entailment is the same if you say a man shouldn't have to pay child support because it's not his
05:26:46
Andrew Wilsondecision to bring the the child into the world but yours then why would this necessarily fall to other people in order to take care of this child other than the father that makes no sense well
05:26:58
Ankayou keep bringing up the point that you know this is a sacred life that we're bringing this world then by your stance everyone should you know help yeah but talking about your stance your stance is
05:27:10
Andrew Wilsonthat the father should have no responsibility towards the child if he chooses not to and so shouldn't have to pay child support because the mother's choosing if that is the case the ailment there is why should other people then
05:27:22
Ankahave to pay if they don't want to uh because it's not their child right I think that if the father doesn't want to pay then I I'm in support for the government to pay and I support the taxpayers paying well it's not the
05:27:33
Andrew Wilsongovernment paying it's it would be other so then in your so in your scenario here's how here's how it works honey I don't want you or I I I don't want this child well I do but luckily you don't
05:27:46
Andrew Wilsonhave to pay any child support whatsoever because that's what the law says so then you go ahead and have the child and then the taxpayer has to fund the child that you chose to have how's that
05:28:00
Brian Atlasfair I that's my stance okay okay thank you for that appreciate it guys okay uh let's see here we are going to get into the questionnaire more
05:28:11
Brian Atlasof the questionnaire stuff uh what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband starting with uh you go
05:28:21
Giannaahead um I would say more than me okay um not a specific amount just do you know how much you'll be making around the time more than me J
05:28:32
Giannahow much you'll be making um I'm not sure could move around but I
05:28:42
Brian Atlaswould say equal or more than my all right CA what about you seven figures so what is that cuz I mean 9 million is different
05:28:52
Brian Atlasthan 1 million like 1 mil 1 mil is fine 1 mil a year or did you say month a a year right no is that all yeah that's
05:29:02
Brian Atlasjust yeah uh what about you I'd say eventually 150 DK all right but you're not expecting that much early on no okay what about you PA I was actually going
05:29:15
Chloeto say the exact same thing cuz I think it's a little bit more realistic so 150k but not early on okay I think considering and assuming we're both going to be
05:29:27
Chloeworking um as long as they're able to provide for their half and I'm able to provide for my half and we're not stressing about it that's all that I care about all right Ellen what about
05:29:37
Brian Atlasyou I would prefer if they're like working up to around six figures okay what about you I would say I prefer that they're working up to six figures yeah and you said 100,000 plus
05:29:49
Brian Atlasbecause you will be as well all right what about you it doesn't matter does it matter really yeah they can work at
05:29:58
Brian AtlasMcDonald's been there so so no then no okay Tiffany 100
05:30:06
Brian Atlas150k you you said 100 to 200k here oh did I yeah yeah fair enough okay all right um and then height question how
05:30:18
Giannatall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date I'm 5'8 so I'd prefer somebody like six foot and
05:30:26
Giannaabove especially because I'm always wearing heels too so sure okay 52 and 511 and above all right what about you
05:30:37
PaLexi I'm almost 5'2 and I'd say 510 and above okay minimum height 510 what about you P I'm 5'2 I think my minimum height like shortest would probably be like 5'8
05:30:50
Brian Atlassomething around that um oh really quick just going back here um last last boyfriend how tall was he he was six foot last boyfriend how tall was
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Brian Atlashe I'm not sure 510 did you send in Canada I don't know uh Lexi how tall is your last boyfriend 6'2 6'2 okay 6'2 6'2
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ChloeChloe uh height um I'm roughly 53 um and then you prefer yeah I prefer people closer to my
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Chloeheight preferably like 54 to 5'8 um current boyfriend how tall is he I think about 5'6 5' sish something like something like that Ellen how tall are
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Brian Atlasyou I'm 5'3 and you would date anyone above 5'7 okay how how tall was your last boyfriend I think he was around
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Brian Atlas5'11 okay uh you're 56 or no sorry you're five what five foot even you're five foot and you want to date five how
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Brian Atlastall was uh your six month oh he was actually like 5'4 good for him all right uh Alyssa you are 53 yes and you will date minimum
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Brian Atlasheight is 5 six Tiffany what about you 55 I would say 5'9 and above all right and then moving on to the last one of the last questions before we get back to the
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Giannadisagreements would you rather cross paths with a man or bear in the forest starting with you go ahead I really don't know what that entails but I would
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Brian Atlassay a man I mean just a man so random man random bear essentially what does that like what do you mean by that so you got the whole US population of men the whole
05:32:41
Brian AtlasUS population of bears could be a random man could be a random bear could be a black bear brown bear grizzly bear oh and then could be like a serial killer sure it's a random could be a serial
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Brian Atlaskiller could be Kyle you pull up the meme really quick actually hold on we we'll wait for the meme um man or bear I would say man okay Cena what about you I
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Brian Atlassaid that it depended on what type of man well it's r random man random Rand you don't get to pick right random man random
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Lexibear a man okay Lexi what about you the man you says depends on what type of bear well since you said it was like
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Lexirandom bear random man I feel like the odds of you coming to like like if it's a brown bear that kind of sucks if it's a black bear if you're just loud at all
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Pasure okay pause um when I first came on I said bear but after talking about it a little bit I'm changing it to man all right Chloe a
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Brian Atlasbear Ellen I think I wrote a bear but Bear yeah bear a bear a man all right so I think
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Brian Atlasit was uh let's see uh bear bear bear bear let's talk to you guys a little bit uh why do you pick bear and why don't you pick man go ahead
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ChloeChloe um I trust animals more than I trust people um I think there's more solid reasons why animals do things than there are people do things but I also I will
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Chloesay part of it just my delusions I like to think I'm a little animal charmer so I like to make believe and think I could be friends with it but okay and why
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Chloedon't you pick men I don't trust them you don't trust men yeah okay um just don't trust them that's it I think the average man is less
05:34:40
Brian Atlastrustworthy than the average bear that's a pretty big indictment of men but um all right Ellen why uh why do you pick bear and why don't you pick
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Ellenman wait like where's the setting is it like a forest yeah Forest yeah like a deep set forest or like a camping ground like
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Brian Atlasyite um it it is uh the AR gone forest in France so there's probably still some