She Sent Her Ex Gorilla ?! Body Count RESETS After 7 Years?! Single Since 2007?! | Dating Talk #209

Date: 2024-10-30
Duration: 7h 43m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_02Cena(guest)
SPEAKER_03Silly (Sylvie)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Leah(guest)
SPEAKER_05Tiffany(guest)
SPEAKER_06Megan(guest)
SPEAKER_08TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_11Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_12Elizabeth(guest)
SPEAKER_13Tony(guest)
SPEAKER_14Alex(guest)

Key Moments

00:18:24
QuoteCena claims projected income of six figures per month from OnlyFans (started 2 months ago). 'I started two months ago... six figures so that's your projected projected income yeah from the rate that I'm going.'
00:23:08
ControversyLeah accuses TTS donors of toxic masculinity for comments about Cena. Andrew spends several minutes arguing that Leah's generalization about men is actually toxic femininity by her own definition.
00:43:10
QuoteBrian asks Leah: 'You're 21, will you be better looking at 31?' — Leah says yes. Cena says she wants a nose job and will be most attractive at 29, still better-looking than now at 59.
01:07:21
QuoteAlex reveals ex cheated on her with her doppelganger, convinced her to cut hair in a bob, then dated a third lookalike. 'He sent my extensions back in because I don't want to be a triplet anymore.'
01:23:50
QuoteTony says: 'penis size cancels out body count' — then clarifies she meant the reverse. Extended discussion on whether sex acts cancel each other out.
02:00:20
QuoteTony reveals single since 2007: 'You've been single since the Bush Administration. Yes. George Bush. That's true. That's affirmative.' — 17 years single.
02:36:40
ControversyAndrew and Alex heated argument about collective standards for unattractive women. Andrew: 'You're dumb as a box of [blank] rocks' — Alex fires back that if women are dying less in combat roles it means they do the job better.
03:15:50
ControversyAndrew quotes Ephesians 5:22 to argue Tiffany (Christian) should be willing to bow to her husband. Tiffany: 'I'm not your maid, I'm your wife.' Extended theological debate about submission, worship vs respect.
03:23:00
QuoteBrian on first date requirements: woman must do laundry on a washboard, hang clothes on clothesline, churn butter within 3 days, and knit a cardigan. 'She has to be a virgin dwarf under 25 who knows how to knit and churn butter.'
04:21:40
QuoteAlex bows to Brian on camera. Then champagne bottle struggles — Brian cannot open 3 consecutive bottles (15-minute ordeal). Cena opens one easily after Brian fails.
04:38:20
OtherTony (walkoff) announces she has to leave at 12:30am, has been waiting 20 minutes. Brian: 'That's kind of rude but okay.' Tony leaves before the final roast session.
06:52:10
QuoteBrian's hypergamy/makeup speech: women use makeup to inflate dating value, chase men out of their league, end up in situationships, then marry 'suckers' in 30s and divorce within 3 years. 'That's why we have two 10s at the table.'

Topics Discussed

00:03:01
Introductions

All 8 guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian also teases Andrew Wilson joining later.

00:13:00
Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares relationship status, longest relationship, who broke up with whom. Tony reveals she's been single since 2007 (17 years). Leah reveals she dated a woman for 2.5yr. Silly reveals her open relationship. Megan reveals ex died of overdose.

00:46:40
Cena's OnlyFans Career

Extended discussion about Cena (18yo) doing OnlyFans to pay for engineering school and provide for parents. Panel debates ethics, parental approval, Asian family dynamics, income claims (~6 figures/month projected), plans to become influencer. Tony encourages her to stick with engineering. TTS donors weigh in heavily.

01:31:30
Self-Ratings (1-10 Looks)

Panel rates their own looks 1-10. Andrew (calling in) joins and asks probing questions about whether guests can describe an unattractive woman. Debate about delusion vs confidence. Brian shows old Instagram photos. Age advancement AI filter used on Discord. Discussion of whether women will look better in 10/20/30 years.

01:50:00
Dating Stories & Pre-Show Notes

Each guest's notable dating stories/hot takes: Alex moved to Oklahoma for cheating ex (doppelganger story). Tony's obese blind date, bad long-distance year-long phone relationship, 6-kid man. Megan's car fire ex story, sending gorilla poop. Silly's open relationship and GameStop boyfriend. Fish pick debate.

02:10:00
Toxic Masculinity Debate

Leah accuses certain donor comments of toxic masculinity. Andrew rebuts: is her generalization about men toxic femininity? Extended back-and-forth about definitions. Leah clarifies she was addressing specific comments about Cena as a woman doing OnlyFans.

02:27:50
Monogamy & Open Relationships

Silly asks why monogamy is 'the way to go.' Andrew argues open relationships fail 95% of the time. Discussion of Silly's open relationship structure. Andrew explains why monogamy creates societal stability. Silly's previous open relationship ended when boyfriend found another woman.

02:50:00
Cultural Nationalism & Dating Within Culture

Tiffany's hot take: date within your culture and nationality. Andrew frames it as 'cultural nationalism.' Japan example. Debate about whether this is racist. Alex disagrees. Tiffany clarifies: Americans should date Americans (assimilated). Discussion of non-English speakers in America.

02:52:20
Only Men Should Make Family Decisions

Tiffany's hot take: men should make family decisions (for benefit of family not themselves). Andrew debates this, argues man's sacrifice (dying for family) justifies leadership. Debate on man laying down his life vs woman's role. Tony asks about income earners and submission.

03:16:40
Sex as Duty in Marriage

Panel debate: is sex a duty/obligation in marriage? All guests say yes with caveats. Andrew poses: woman on chemotherapy — still obligated? Discussion gets nuanced. Jake donor asks: if wife declines sex and man cheats, is she to blame?

04:06:40
Election / Voting Debate

Panel reveals voting intentions. Tiffany won't vote (no point). Tony voted Chase Oliver first, Trump second (Alaska ranked choice). Silly can't vote (Belgian). Andrew argues third-party voting is futile — two-party system inevitable due to collective power dynamics. Upcoming election co-stream announced (Nov 5 Election Day).

04:21:40
Bowing to Your Man

Brian shows bow video of ex-girlfriend. Panel reacts. Tony has softened since first seeing the bow argument. Most women say they would bow for the right man. Tiffany objects (not a maid). Andrew quotes Ephesians 5:22. Discussion of submission, sacrament, Asian wife bowing culture. Andrew: choking analogy (reciprocal obligations).

04:28:20
Champagne Pop Spectacle

Donor sends champagne. Brian struggles to open multiple champagne bottles for 15 minutes (becomes a running bit). Cena opens one easily. Andrew mocks Brian relentlessly. Eventually a different brand opens. Cheers to donor 'Walking Rosco.'

04:46:40
Women in Military / Male Sacrifice

Andrew's argument: men collectively die for women; women don't die for men collectively. Alex counters with women in military. Elizabeth (Army vet) provides insider perspective on women's combat roles. Andrew argues women are physically incapable of same roles. Jessica Lynch cited as example of why women shouldn't be in combat zones.

05:30:00
Hypergamy & Dating Market

Brian's speech on how makeup artificially inflates women's dating market value, causing them to chase men out of their league. Alex pushes back claiming she makes ~$800k/year (disputed by Andrew and Brian given 20K Instagram followers). Body count discussion as context.

05:46:40
Makeup Debate

Andrew and Brian debate whether makeup is deceptive. Panel watches Asian transformation video. Makeup wipes challenge — no one takes off their makeup on camera. Leah admits she wore makeup to fit in with other women at the show. Discussion of deception threshold, men being disadvantaged (can't wear makeup). Brian argues makeup inflates women's dating market value.

06:11:40
Body Count & Alpha Widow Discussion

Panel gives body counts. Brian discusses alpha widow concept applying to men sexually. Discussion of whether virginity is better for a man. Cena and Tony give their body counts.

07:18:50
Andrew Wilson's Outro

Andrew leaves the show (~7:18). Brian announces Andrew will be on Sunday show and Election Day co-stream. Panel thanks Andrew.

Transcript

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05:32:41
Andrew Wilsonthem better it's because they're incapable of doing most of these jobs even when they're in the position of doing them that makes my argument not yours pH physically physically they can't do it
05:32:54
Leahyes my my little comment to that would be that I have done enough of the research um about my own country and what's happening and there is no such
05:33:04
Leahthing as physical equality when it comes to men and women we're different physically and uh even though that's they drafting old men in the Ukraine they're not drafting young women yeah
05:33:16
Leahthis is this is an incredibly heartbreaking topic but of course there are thousands hundreds of thousands of women
05:33:24
Leahin Ukraine that are committing to to protecting our country right now but it would be insane of me to say that they are physically capable of
05:33:37
Leaheverything that the men do but of course we we can be eternally gr grateful for everything that both of the genders are doing for us is just
05:33:48
Alexthey can't be physically as capable as the man but I think to to revisit the heart of the the conversation Andrew was that is there any example of women
05:33:59
Andrew Wilsonlaying their life on the line for men but this has already been determined as being true yes but your whole point was that it wasn't what does the word what does the word Collective mean what does
05:34:10
Andrew Wilsonit mean okay what does the word Collective mean can you tell me what the word Collective means so I just want to make sure that you got the argument down I got it down what what does the word
05:34:20
AlexCollective mean the word Collective is the majority the group all of the women all of the men gotcha so so when I say literally say to you yes there are
05:34:31
Andrew Wilsonexamples of women laying their lives down for men that's not in dispute here right it's never been in dispute it's never even been a part part of my argument it was yielded immediately right away the second you said it I conceded to it has nothing to do with my
05:34:44
Andrew Wilsonargument my argument is about the collective collectively men lay their lives down for women collectively women do not lay their lives down for men if you can give me an example where collectively women do that I can't wait
05:34:54
Elizabethto hear it okay I do think though that there is a place for women in the military and they there is roles where women will go on deployment the roles to sign no I mean there's other POS
05:35:08
Elizabeththat milit that women have in the military like me I was 88 Mike which is a truck driver so you were a truck driver right right so it's not just job [ __ ] with people we'd say go get us a mic 88 right that's what you'd say new
05:35:19
Elizabethpeople yeah but it's not just admin payroll clerk jobs and there's plenty of men carrying those payroll clerk jobs as well yeah but they're not deploying 88 mics who are females in combat zone yes
05:35:30
Elizabeththey do that's how Jessica Lynch got they have mass that's how Jessica Lynch got abducted in o if1 is she was an 88 mik overseas in the Gulf because the
05:35:41
Andrew Wilsonfirst time that they didn't send out a huge MP escort with the mike 88s that's why so the thing is by the way right my point of why they shouldn't be in military
05:35:53
Andrew Wilsoncombat she got captured and then they graped her right and that was a demoralizing effect on the American Military massive demoralizing effect she should never have been there and by the way I'm going to say this again and
05:36:06
Andrew Wilsonlet's see if you can just dispute this if we collectively allowed women into combat zones the enemy would capture them they would sexually assault them and they would send them back to their home countryes pregnant and the reason that they would do that is because it would be the most demoralizing thing
05:36:20
Andrew Wilsonthey could do I don't think women should be in combat zones but that's not saying what I just said can he answer to what I I mean I guess yeah that's how wouldn't you if you were in charge of a foreign
05:36:31
Andrew Wilsonmilitary and they were deploying women into the combat zones and you wanted to demoralize their military wouldn't you instruct your soldiers to capture those women sa them and send them home pregnant uh I don't think I would
05:36:44
Elizabethinstruct my soldiers to don't know that I would instruct them to do that if you wanted to demoralize the enemy wouldn't you do that I mean I I'm not arguing that they would do that I mean they
05:36:55
Elizabethliterally throw kids in front of trucks with bombs on them so I'm not arguing that they would do that I would not initiate that if you were in charge of a military
05:37:08
Andrew Wilsonand you were fighting a war for protection for your nation right it's just like the Japanese instructed their soldiers to kill Medics first and the reason they instructed them to kill Medics first is because they wanted the
05:37:20
Andrew Wilsonwounded on the battlefield screaming to demoralize the enemy there is no reason for us to assume that the enemies of the United States if we deployed women in combat roles to front lines would not
05:37:30
Andrew Wilsoninstruct their soldiers to capture them essay them as publicly as possible and send the video and pregnant women back their country of origin in order to demoralize their enemies but that's a
05:37:41
Andrew Wilsoncrime of War they don't care about crimes of War that's fictitious made up [ __ ] okay I you who follows do you know who follows war crimes the West follows what war crimes are the enemies
05:37:54
Andrew Wilsonof the West don't give a [ __ ] there's no crimes in a war because it's a war they don't care they don't care the Israelis just blew up hundreds of people in public
05:38:05
Andrew Wilsonwith their pagers they don't don't give a [ __ ] about war crimes nobody cares about war crimes nobody cares because it's a war okay that's a completely feminine thought process that men give a
05:38:17
Andrew Wilson[ __ ] about war crimes they don't care why does it exist then because collectively countries want to make themselves look really good on paper they want to look like they're part of Geneva conventions they want to
05:38:28
Andrew WilsonOutlaw flamethrowers they change their uniforms all the time they do all sorts of things and then in the midst of War what they'll do is they'll shoot white fos us over a spider hole set people on
05:38:39
Andrew Wilsonfire wait for them to run out so that they can shoot them which is against the Geneva Convention and they don't give a [ __ ] am I wrong you were in the military you know yeah yeah and they don't get
05:38:51
Andrew Wilsonpunished for it ever no they don't care they don't care listen if you're in a war your job is to win the war mhm your job is to kill the enemy with extreme aggression it's to poison them it's to
05:39:03
Andrew Wilsonstab them while they're sleeping it's to murder them in any possible way you can think of to do it so that you win that's Warfare I think you see another kind of
05:39:13
Andrew Wilsonnews than I do then you think that because in the Civilized world that we conduct Warfare a certain way the British learned this lesson the hard way gentleman Warfare went right out the
05:39:25
Andrew Wilsonwindow the second Guerilla tactics were introduced so the thing is is that no all it takes is one person saying these rules are stupid we're going to throw them out and we're going to kill the enemy however we see fit who's to stop
05:39:38
Silly (Sylvie)them they're in a war what are you going to do come kill them they're already in a war yeah they're point they're already in a war they don't kill sometimes there
05:39:47
Alexare consequences I don't know I feel like I don't it's okay I you feel like I I want to engage I I feel I know you want to engage but like I don't
05:39:58
Alexuh I don't know I feel like though there is like some kind of consideration for um maybe not war crimes but like like for instance like nuclear weapons
05:40:10
Andrew Wilsonand stuff there's a reason why that that doesn't occur even though it could you know so yeah it's because the nuclear armed nations would blast each other into smithin I I'm aware I understand
05:40:20
Alexbut I'm just saying I feel like your point was that like people don't give a [ __ ] because they just want to win the war I feel like people do to a certain extent we would use we would use nukes
05:40:32
Andrew Wilsonif we needed to win a war bad enough we would use them in fact in fact it's it's part of our Warfare Doctrine it's it's part of our Warfare
05:40:43
Andrew WilsonDoctrine in fact soldiers are trained in order to and and how to sustain their lives in the event of a nuclear detonation for a reason it's because
05:40:54
Andrew Wilsoninside of all game three War plans in the United States there's always the Assumption somebody could use a nuclear bomb Lucas donated
05:41:04
TTS/Donations$100 a man's duty to sacrifice his life is so vigorously enforced by society that when the Titanic sank one man survived and spent the rest of his life
05:41:14
Brian Atlasbeing called a cowed by other men do fact check me h i mean didn't more than one survive from Titanic but thank you
05:41:24
TTS/DonationsLucas appreciate it man we have four more coming through you guys want TTS is 100 get them in thank you Lucas appreciate it man Lucas donated
05:41:34
TTS/Donations$100 what Andrew is talking about is a a settled anthropological concept known as male expendability STFU and learn
05:41:46
Andrew Wilsonsomething no no what we should do is because women die less in combat because they're incapable of doing combat roles it's then put them in combat roles because they're better at it that's uh woman logic
05:42:00
TTS/Donations101 all right thank you Christine donated $100 ladies don't let andw win best thing to do is reframe the question and
05:42:10
TTS/Donationsavoid answering him directly until he gets tired I like to bring up anecdotal examples that are long so he tires I hate
05:42:21
Meganmen I love Christine love you appreciate it appreciate it Christine uh that
05:42:31
TTS/Donationswas thank you Lucas donated $100 holy [ __ ] red if you were a firste associate firm you'd fired on the spot
05:42:41
Brian Atlasusing the exception to argue against the rule under GW grat that's why I'm a model now babe all right Lucas thank you man thank you Christine thank you guys so much for
05:42:53
Brian Atlasall your uh patronage there I'm going to try to get through all the notes Here uh so Andrew will be coming back he just stepped away for a moment uh let's see
05:43:02
Brian Atlashere uh okay going to you you said c like crazy dating stories uh wait hold on there was a bad the one guy who went
05:43:15
Tonyto the bathroom and never came back oh stiff Toth the bill you already talked about that though so rude rude the one guy who didn't know the difference between what I I told him I was a musician and
05:43:27
Tonythen he did a call back later and he he said oh you're a magician right and I was like no musician and he's like oh that's the same thing and I was like did you also remember I'm a therapist it's not the same thing and then you totally
05:43:40
Tonydifferent had some bad dating experience with liberal men um that's that was uh that was the ugly that was just general liberals e
05:43:51
Brian Atlasi there's nowhere to go oh okay with having com like there's nowhere to go in relationship you said there's this one guy who you went for a
05:44:02
Tonywalk he asked you out again and then you gave him a chance dinner what happened yeah he asked me over uh to his place for dinner and I agreed and uh when I
05:44:13
Tonygot there he was showing me around his backyard and showing me all some some different areas that he'd done some Landscaping on and I was like oh this is your house and he's like no this is my
05:44:23
Tonymom's house and I was like your mom's not going to come home tonight is she he's like well maybe is that a problem and I was just like I don't I wasn't
05:44:34
Tonytrying to meet your mom tonight and um then later I went to leave and he went to give me a kiss and I wasn't having that and he's like is this
05:44:44
Brian Atlasbecause I live with my mom yes wait going around the table really quick um would you date a guy who
05:44:53
Tonylives with his parents no into the mic please no no no it depends but if you're going to invite me over to your mom's
05:45:04
Elizabethhouse there should be some disclosure okay no absolutely [ __ ] not all right into the mic please I mean I don't know cuz if they're taking care of their mom and their mom's not well or something
05:45:18
Brian Atlaslike yeah yeah yes okay interesting uh let's see and then uh that one guy who's trying to get to
05:45:29
Brian Atlasknow me so I'm like okay give him a chance do you have any kids you have few how many kids did he have six how many baby moms
05:45:39
Brian Atlasfour nice good luck I'm not your person crazy uh you also said that who are all these men paying for all the dates I've gone Dutch for
05:45:50
Tony99% of dates one guy paid once and that was cool he was really Shor us yeah that was last December um uh it was unexpected he just kind of pulled out
05:46:02
Tonythe card quicker than I did and it was just taken care of before I knew it and that never happens um I paid for the drinks later okay is Andrew back by the
05:46:12
Brian Atlasway wait are these guys in Wisconsin no I'm in Alaska yeah I'm here okay uh you said that uh you hear men say on this podcast that men are attracted to women's aesthetic appeal and then also
05:46:23
Brian Atlassay women are lying when they wear makeup I can understand that at times women completely alter their appearance with makeup but I don't believe that's the norm and makeup is used to enhance enhance appearance you can be well-groomed without makeup and makeup
05:46:36
Tonycan be a Le part of a general grooming routine yeah I feel like I've heard men on this podcast say that wearing makeup is makes you a liar and I I just feel like that is a really absolutist type of
05:46:47
Tonyposition to take and if you if you enjoy looking at women who look pretty why wouldn't you want them to pretty themselves
05:46:55
Tonyup uh well I suppose not when it comes to a deception right there's a threshold I can I could I could agree that there's a threshold yeah but all makeup is on
05:47:07
Tonythe scale of deception I don't see it that way I see it as an enhancement is shaving deceptive and would you want a woman who shaves what do you mean like
05:47:18
Brian Atlasshaves shaves her legs shaves her armpits do you want your woman to shave initially you said grooming makeup is grooming make to do with grooming sure isn't that deceptive she has hair on her
05:47:31
Tonylegs no that's her authentic self how would it be deceptive though by shaving It Off off that's not the natural presentation wouldn't that be deceptive to pretend like you don't have
05:47:44
Brian Atlashair I don't think that would be deceptive now I I feel like it's in the same category as a gentle application of makeup no I think it's completely different one hair has to do more so
05:47:55
Brian Atlaswith with grooming than it has to do with changing your appearance because for example uh one of the reasons men would might prefer a woman with shaved legs
05:48:07
Brian Atlasdoesn't even necessarily have to do with something visual but with something tactile wait what yeah why why you
05:48:16
Brian Atlaslaughing that's literally true Loop there's also an appearance yeah appearance-wise too I suppose but
05:48:26
Brian Atlasthere's also like a more there's actually like a greater utility to shaving like it if a woman has spiky legs it's pH physically
05:48:38
Brian Atlasuncomfortable to [ __ ] her you're talking about if the [ __ ] is is [ __ ] spiky it's uncomfortable bro so there's actually a
05:48:49
Tonygreater utility there so it's higher on the scale of an of of the grooming routine make sure you do that part first makeup is an afterthought but I think that makeup can
05:49:01
Brian Atlasbe part of a grooming routine it has nothing to do with grooming though and do you see it as a whole separate category makeup
05:49:13
Brian Atlasyeah yeah it would be different when I think of grooming I think taking care more so of your hygiene make makeup does not improve your hygiene in fact it probably makes it worse what do you um
05:49:26
Brian Atlashow could it not you're literally clogging your pores with makeup it makes you more prone to acne that's bad for your hygiene okay exist for a reason I
05:49:35
Brian Atlasmight it exists it exists to create a facade of what you desire to look like but actually don't that's what it exists for so you can feel more confident and
05:49:46
Brian Atlasyou can feel less insecure about how you're na you naturally look so if you're a girl you want to wear makeup you got to speak into the [ __ ] mic I've told you like seven a girl you wouldn't wear
05:49:57
Brian Atlasmakeup is that what you're saying I don't know I'm not a woman okay yeah so you can't even speak about it you're allowed to have opinion have you
05:50:08
Brian Atlasever wait have you ever had an abortion no oh you can't speak about abortion then because you've never had one okay meow oh hold on actually wait
05:50:19
Brian Atlasshould you be allowed to vote because you can't damn you can't go to war do you oh my God you can't be forced to war should you be allowed to vote why is this first all why is he smiling yes ah
05:50:30
Tonyhe loves women should be allowed to vote I just think um yeah women should be allowed to vote no I didn't do anything I was just listening do do you prefer Pamela Anderson with makeup or without
05:50:42
Brian Atlasmakeup I would not be attracted to her one because that doesn't she have hepatitis from B whatever the [ __ ] that guy's name is she has plastic surgery she has plastic surgery which is my
05:50:53
Andrew Wilsonbigger gripe than the fact that surgery I don't I'm a natural body supremacist perhaps perhaps I can now I don't entirely agree with Brian's makeup take
05:51:03
Andrew Wilsonjust to be fair okay but I will but but I am going to going to kind of take his part on this uh women are often called the fairer sex
05:51:14
Andrew Wilsonin fact I'll ask this question do you think if you think that there are more beautiful women than there are handsome men go ahead and raise your hand yeah more beautiful women than
05:51:27
Andrew Wilsonhandsome feel like it's easier to be beautiful as a woman than it is to be exactly so my argument is just very simple that absent all makeup and all Beauty regiment
05:51:39
Andrew Wilsonstandards that come along with that do you still hold the position that there would be more beautiful women than handsome men raise your hand you still do you still think that
05:51:50
Andrew Wilsonwomen even absent their makeup because here's the thing what do we have to draw the parallel towards when I look around
05:51:59
Andrew WilsonI see men not wearing makeup and I see them not doing these incredible grooming kind of things that when women do and so they go well uh well well this guy's you
05:52:11
Andrew Wilsonknow as as far as women go they're much prettier than men and this type of thing but I think that if women walked around their natural state absent all of the makeup and beauty and this and that you would find that actually they're pretty
05:52:23
Andrew Wilsonmuch on par because men they have the disadvantage it's not even socially acceptable to wear makeup and yet there's still very very many of them considered to be quite handsome so I
05:52:34
Andrew Wilsonoften wonder well if all the women are walking around without makeup would we still make the association that they were the fair sex we still have boops yeah I mean men can have boobs too
05:52:47
Tonybut I wouldn't say that that makes them the fair the fair or not fair sex right you know I think maybe it just kind of goes along with the feminine that women like to decorate like this apartment would look different if if a
05:52:59
Tonywoman decorated it there'd be more stuff on the walls and I think it's similar to like how we like to wear jewelry and we like to decorate and we like to enance the appearance yeah understand I'm not
05:53:10
Andrew WilsonI'm not disputing that right what I am disputing is that when Brian says it's a deception aren't men almost instantly disadvantaged because after all if a guy's walking around with guyliner on
05:53:21
Andrew Wilsonand make up and [ __ ] like that that's not considered masculine right so they're preferred in their natural yeah they're preferred in their natural state so whereas women can go through these
05:53:32
Andrew WilsonBeauty regimens and they defend them however the amount of women in this know for sure having been on that podcast in person many times and off of it almost
05:53:41
Andrew Wilsonno woman in person looks like they do on camera they almost always look way worse in person almost always you know I don't I I just think
05:53:53
Andrew WilsonBrian am I wrong about that by the way am I crazy or do almost all the women look way worse in person than they do on camera the uh cameras in the studio
05:54:03
Brian Atlaslighting do a lot of favor uh lot of favors lot of lot of favor these cameras
05:54:13
Tiffanyyeah I think everyone looks a whole lot better in person than they how would you know what would you be comparing that to I have the best Lighting on
05:54:22
Leah[Laughter] YouTube H yeah um look it's a deception it's a de what's up what do you got I want to share one extremely
05:54:33
Leahsincere moment about makeup When I Was preparing for the show specifically I was thinking about either
05:54:42
Leahputting makeup on or not and I really wanted to not put any as usual because I don't use any makeup
05:54:51
Leahin real life because I want my skin to breathe not because of any other reason and the only reason why I still put the
05:55:01
Leahmakeup on is because I knew that almost I'm not talking about by you girl you have no makeup on like and you have no makeup on but I knew that the absolute
05:55:12
Leahmajority I knew that the absolute majority of the women that are going to come to the podcast are going to wear the makeup on and I was thinking okay
05:55:22
Leahgirl all right put the mascara on all right kind of hide those little pum pums that you had because the majority of the people are going to do it and you
05:55:32
Leahprobably unintentionally are going to show yourself and not in the best way because of the people that are definitely going to put the makeup on
05:55:42
Leahit's just a very honest talk that I wanted to vocalize right now but I I definitely have those days you didn't want the women who are around you to
05:55:53
Leahlook more beautiful than you I I knew that probably I would look that's one way to put naturally I
05:56:02
Leahwould look different from the women the totally I know better they so you yeah I wanted to fit in for sure
05:56:12
LeahAndrew I can agree with what you're saying right now for sure and there are definitely some days in my life when I when I'm thinking I wish all the women
05:56:23
Andrew Wilsoncould just ditch all the makeup just go outside if that is the case Brian has a whole bunch of makeup wipes there my challenge to you would be to go to the bathroom and take all the makeup off and
05:56:34
Leahcome back man I would love to do it can I just do it cuz this is this would be amazing honestly should do it who will do it do you even have the makeup on I do oh let's [ __ ] get rid of it I
05:56:46
Leahdon't know there are so many days in my life when I'm thinking oh I wish all the women just put all their makeup off just
05:56:54
Leahabsorb the sun rays and just chill they don't need to um you know prove anything to anyone they're they're gous found the foundation all that is off then people
05:57:06
Leahcan see for themselves whether or not there was a deception or not right ah [ __ ] it [ __ ] it I'm talking about the natural beauty that we all of the women around me have it right now well this is actually why I make it a habit when
05:57:18
Leahwomen aren't wearing like if I'm dating somebody and they she's not wearing makeup to compliment her when she's not wearing makeup yeah [ __ ] cuz one day you're going to see her in the morning with no makeup on and if you're planning
05:57:29
Andrew Wilsonto like traing a dog bro huh you use your positive reinforcement you're traing him like it's a tree like dog no it's not the newspaper and you're like bad when they put the makeup on when
05:57:40
Leahthey don't you're like oh you're a good girl no it's not it's not wa wait wait wait my intention is definitely not to hate on the makeup I'm wearing my makeup right now and I'm proud of it I love my
05:57:51
Leahmakeup no no no no this is not the point it's just I again generally I just always think about that moment when a man that I would possibly be interested
05:58:01
Leahin he would see me without any makeup in the morning morning and that would be real me it would not be the same me in the evening at that expensive restaurant
05:58:13
Tonythat we're spending time at you know it's different you feel me so where are the wipes yeah where are I just don't I just don't see makeup as a deception I
05:58:25
Tonysee it as um part of the feminine and I see it as like decoration and I'm not trying to get away with anything yeah I agree I don't care if somebody sees me without makeup let me ask you a question
05:58:37
Andrew Wilsonum let's assume that you were with kind of your dream guy right you slept with him for the first time and it was absolutely amazing okay and then he found out the next day he was on Viagra and he couldn't get it up was that a
05:58:49
Cenadeception Viagra is so different than makeup first of all I don't think so cuz it it's just like helping you yeah no I'm not hang on let me ask
05:58:57
Tonyher me no no you yeah you Tony yes answer please
05:59:06
Tonythat's it's it's hard to answer I um I don't if I knew about it then no but if I did not then yes but you if I tell you I'm wearing makeup then it's not deceptive right
05:59:18
Andrew Wilsonmakeup tweet pulled yeah right right but the the point here is is that if then you could make the choice right based on this information knowing that this guy could not perform would you have ever wasted
05:59:29
Andrew Wilsonyour time sleeping with him in the first place as long as the Viagra is still there yeah I know but the idea here is just if you think it's a deception then that could inform your decision alternatively to whether or not
05:59:42
Andrew Wilsonyou would ever have done this action with a person to begin with I would say makeup has the same effect for many women that men would pursue a woman who they think is beautiful when absent the makeup perhaps they're not this is the
05:59:55
Andrew Wilsondefinition of catfishing so how you could say this is a deception or not a deception I have no idea uh I think that you're just so to be charitable to your view I think it has to do with int
06:00:07
Andrew Wilsonright so I don't think you're intending to be deceiving by putting makeup on that's where I would deviate from Brian uh however that does not mean that it is not used very deceptively by most women
06:00:20
Alexwho tend to not look anything like what they look like in in makeup they just don't they don't look anything you disagree that's fair I think you're putting a lot of power in the capability
06:00:30
Andrew Wilsonof makeup like like oh are we I mean I don't take yours then take yours off what if she doesn't want we have the makeup wipes right there take them off if if I'm putting a lot of power what if
06:00:41
Alexshe doesn't want no no no hang on hang on let me call your bluff take yours off I have last one first of all I spent a lot of time and money on this makeup right and you know what Andrew you not
06:00:53
TTS/Donationsyou're not worth it so I'm not taking it off for you and also those those ones gave me hives so I'm never on my face way too much talking that makeup
06:01:02
TTS/Donationspring $100 just specifically for Andre and if it's okay with Brian with your position on third party voting do you think it's wrong not to vote at all if you believe neither Prim candidate
06:01:15
Andrew Wilsonshould be president I need a quick answer on this yeah I think you should still vote I think you should still vote for the lesser of two evils because the only way you can apply political power thank you practicing gentlemen appreciate it we have also Lucas here
06:01:27
TTS/Donationscoming in all right Lucas donated $100 ha model nice attempt at
06:01:37
TTS/Donationsself-aggrandisement wife [ __ ] ton hotter [ __ ] ton smarter and BTW [ __ ] ton more successful at modeling to boot now take
06:01:46
Alexher mediocrity back home and learn some humility is that to you I I guess we could assume so right I guess then go back to your wife and stop spending $100
06:01:57
Andrew Wilsonto talk to me babe all right by the way by the way I just wanted to point out something that's very interesting as I'm looking examining the panel here as well well I noticed that some of you are
06:02:08
Andrew Wilsonaround my age but none of you have any gray hairs that's really interesting I would say that that would be statistically impossible that at least some of you should have at least a few gray hairs where are they where are the
06:02:20
Tonygray hairs I have never dyed my hair and my mom 19 years older than me still doesn't have any gray hairs I'm going to have great hair for a long time so I I assume that at least some of you would not have
06:02:32
Andrew Wilsongray hair sure but I don't think all of you would not be able to have some so where are they after this conversation with you I might have
06:02:42
Tonysome pull up the Tweet please pull up the Tweet won't you just Dy him away all right make it bigger make it bigger or just click on it this is not is that real this is not real that's not real
06:02:54
Andrew Wilsonthere's no way that's real no it's not look at the shape of her face that's not real that's her or him I don't even know they use tape they use tape to tape back certain aspects of their skin that's
06:03:06
Brian Atlasdeceptive if that's and then do the the video one it's like this Asian woman who's now I can rub my
06:03:18
Alexeyes you guys have been calling us stupid all night but you guys believe that that is the capability of makeup we're going to show you yes show us show
06:03:28
Andrew Wilsonus makeup wearers there's plenty of you can take your 300th L for the night when we show you if it's not uh no wait wait wait no audio no audio take it
06:03:39
Brian Atlasoff okay go ahead Put on window tab please no window tab just window just you can switch it to window tab acts
06:03:49
Brian Atlaslike a goon too the window tab you can switch it to window tab oh this is not makeup this is skin care
06:03:58
Brian Atlasyeah hold on it's a whole [ __ ] transformation she's doing all right she pulled that out of her ear she's also a magician like a
06:04:15
Tonymusician yeah what just happened something happened to her
06:04:21
Tonychin some AI stuff just happened right now her face is getting smaller and smaller yeah yeah that whole jawline different person there's a filter or something on
06:04:33
Brian Atlasnow okay then go back scroll back to the beginning SC back to the very beginning totally totally different okay but they added like contact some like
06:04:43
Alextechnology yes that's component of the Cosmetics I'm not contacts Cosmetics I would say is like within the realm of something you could buy at Sephora yeah
06:04:52
Andrew Wilsonyou're not buying you're not buying a face reconstruction Lally okay well well I OB to all of it hang I'll just grant
06:05:01
Andrew Wilsonit 40% of it 40% of what you just saw was raw AI filters that still leav 60% that wasn't that's still such a facial
06:05:11
Andrew Wilsontransformation it's incredible and so yes you you of course you can put stock and makeup I've seen what people can do and why I don't even know why you would deny it you've seen horror movies with
06:05:23
Andrew Wilsonspecial effects and makeup artists who can make people look like aliens from other planets I don't know why you think that women can't make facial Transformations that makes no sense yeah no that's true you can also use makeup
06:05:34
Tonyto make yourself much uglier than you are in in real life like Charlie sterin in that one serial killer movie I mean it's used to enhance or or
06:05:45
Andrew Wilsonnot enhance beauty standards but you can you can transform people to the point where they look like monsters from another world but somehow we think that it's impossible for people to make these facial Transformations where they look
06:05:57
Alexextraordinarily beautiful when they're really not yeah there's a threshold that that it becomes deceptive all right next I sent you the thing seems like you're implying that we're doing this right now but if you're nut why don't you take
06:06:09
Andrew Wilsonwell I don't know you're not the one taking your makeup off no but it's like why should she have to she's I feel like she shouldn't have to nobody said she had to it's just called in poker we call this calling your bluff when you say hey
06:06:22
Andrew Wilsonmy hand is way better than you think it is and I say well that's fine let's play our cards the other person tends to fold right because you're calling their Bluff the thing is is like if you think the makeup isn't doing a bunch of heavy
06:06:33
Alexlifting for your face then prove it well if you're saying that you can get it up without Viagra then is anybody asking you to prove that on camera yeah well here's the thing right
06:06:45
Andrew Wilsonin this particular case I'm not making the claim that Viagra does not enhance the face or the penis to the point where you can get an erection you are making
06:06:55
Andrew Wilsonthe claim that makeup cannot enhance the the face to the point where you can have a completely different standardization of what the beauty is that's the distinction all of the men that I've
06:07:05
Alexdated and have that have seen me without makeup H I have never like had anybody be like you deceived me last night at dinner like no one has said that well I
06:07:18
TonyI know but you can just prove us all wrong right now with that analogy not paying the distinction of deception is whether or not taking Viagra was a
06:07:29
Andrew Wilsonsecret because nobody's makeup is a secret it's right on your face just just the one is fun yeah no no no that's the the point is not whether or not you can
06:07:39
Andrew Wilsonput makeup on your face and we don't know you have makeup on your face the point is the deceptive nature of it I don't give a [ __ ] if women enhance their face with makeup I don't care right
06:07:51
Andrew Wilsonthat's that's Brian's argue he doesn't like it I get it I don't see it as any different than a person who has burn scars on their face who has surgery in order to make those burn scars go away I
06:08:02
Andrew Wilsondon't care it doesn't bother me but there is clearly like you stated a threshold and when I hear cope like no makeup really just doesn't do much I'm just at Natural Beauty and you go yeah
06:08:14
Andrew Wilsonwell here's the wipes let's prove it you see very quickly that there's a lot of coke going on makeup is doing a lot more heavy lifting than women pretend that it's doing now here I'll prove it right
06:08:26
Andrew Wilsonnow the three most makeup women that I see right now on the panel would be the one who identified as a 10 at the end of the table the one in red and then the only fans girl will any of you right now take your makeup off on camera any of you no we're
06:08:39
Megannot saying that it's not deceptive we're just saying we look good with and without makeup but when there's cameras and lighting we know the lashes yeah but which way do you look better which way do you look better I think I would look better without makeup but I will wear makeup okay take yours off I don't have
06:08:53
Meganto Tak it off I'm on camera and the lighting is like in my face why would you ever put makeup on if you think you look better without it are you dressing yourself down no I'm saying when there's like lights and cameras in my face like
06:09:05
Cenathe eyelashes pop so Ian will make them pop well is it the same as saying like if there's a men and you shave your beard and you look different without a beard you prefer to have a beard on
06:09:16
Andrew Wilsonisn't that the same for like women they prefer to have makeup on yeah have makeup on all the time I think that a man is trying in that point to enhance his standard of beauty or possibly hide
06:09:27
Andrew Wilsona scar or any number of different reasons right I'm not making the case that women wearing makeup is some evil I don't think it is MH right I don't have the same position that Brian has on this
06:09:38
Andrew Wilsonand never have but I still see it as pure Co when a woman who is dressed in makeup to the gills I don't know how
06:09:46
Andrew Wilsonlong it took you to put your face on 10 but a couple yeah right no [ __ ] right like an hour to deceive y'all this it's Hours come on and in any case when you
06:09:58
Andrew Wilsonpretend well this really just doesn't do much for me it's just enhancing the incredible beauty that's already there and really doesn't changed anybody's perception of me at all when put to the test when the makeup wipes are in front
06:10:10
Andrew Wilsonof you we find out maybe that's not the case like for instance right I would shave my beard on camera I don't give a [ __ ] now really change how I look very much
06:10:21
Alexyou should do it then as soon as you remove your B your makeup you'll do it if I take my makeup off you'll I'll take makeup off take off your makeup I have the makeup wi you got the I love this
06:10:33
Andrew Wilsontake it off I'm makeup wipes actually there's regular soap in the bathroom soap soap literally what no no no you can't go to the bathroom you have to take the makeup off where we can see so
06:10:46
Andrew Wilsonwe know that you're not only taking off some parts of the makeup to still continue to enhance the beauty right I think you're just jealous you can't put on makeup why couldn't I put on makeup yeah you could I mean you could yeah
06:10:58
Meganokay well then I don't even understand the argument made no sense you know what this this conversation is just irrelevant because we're all cute with without makeup and you're just yeah we're allti you're trying to be a hater right now but it's fine the know I think
06:11:10
Andrew Wilsonis really sexy guys who don't smoke cigarettes you know what I think is really sexy women who do oo where have we gotten now nowhere nowhere I really appreciate that
06:11:22
Tonyyou and Brian have some distinct differences in your opinions and that it's not just Macho group think on everything or anything no we we disagree about uh about several things but we agree I
06:11:34
Andrew Wilsonwould say 90% of things but we we definitely have different perceptions on many things we have one more video related to this but men don't have to be collectivists in order for other men to
06:11:46
Tonylike us that's the fair that's that's the advantage we have that women don't seem to have I disagree oh that poor eyebrow but that eyeball is going to fall
06:12:01
Brian Atlasdown that's makeup that's not real that's makeup yeah you can let it play through one more time it's also contacts is it yeah her eyes completely
06:12:12
Brian Atlaschanged yeah uh I don't think she's wearing contacts she is her eyes got that color first I'm pretty sure it's just the she's wearing a lot of skin in any case um that tape you're
06:12:23
Brian Atlastalking I need to find this tape you guys she she's wearing a lot of makeup probably most women do not wear that much makeup but I don't think you can deny that uh
06:12:35
Brian Atlasthat's quite the transformation yeah both of those videos that you presented past theh I think there's a couple components here is that what
06:12:44
Brian Atlasmakeup will do though is that women will start to believe that that's what they look like and so what you have happening in the dating Marketplace is a lot of women
06:12:56
Brian Atlasare chasing after these top tier guys and through the use of makeup they've artificially inflated their uh value in the dating Marketplace because men care
06:13:08
Brian Atlasabout beauty men care about looks if you've artificially and I don't think you can deny that it's artificially inflating your physical appearance through the use of makeup or other cosmetic procedures certainly can't be
06:13:19
Brian Atlasdescribed as natural you've raised your so-called rating I mean it's funny but you're Caked Up in makeup so I know you want to cope about it not Caked Up I am Caked Up
06:13:29
Brian Atlasand my hair is died and my nails are done and my lashes are done and now what when I guess look what I'm trying to say what I'm trying to say is what I see happening you got to let me finish okay what I see happening in the dating
06:13:41
Brian AtlasMarketplace is that women are curving men that they think they would be settling for or they think are not in their league but here's the big mistake
06:13:52
Brian Atlasthat a lot of women make is that you are terrible assessors of male attractiveness and your own attractiveness that's why we have two 10 at the table that's we have why we have
06:14:03
Brian Atlasnines and eights at the table have two you said you're 10 and then you said up and because of this because of this you
06:14:13
Brian Atlashave a delusional or inaccurate to be charitable sense false sense of your own attractiveness air go you got to let me finish I'm I let you guys talk air go
06:14:26
Brian Atlasyou're going to be chasing after men who are out of your league these men will give you sexual access because you want sexual access from them they'll give you sexual access they'll never give you commitment access they'll never give you girlfriend access
06:14:38
Brian Atlasthey'll never give you wife access you'll spend your 20s [ __ ] men outside of your league then when you're 30 or in your late 20s you're like whoa why haven't I been able to lock down a guy but you were
06:14:51
Brian Atlasable to hook up with the NFL players these rich guys in Dubai or wherever the [ __ ] you go to and you sleep with these men who have proposed to me where's the
06:14:59
Brian Atlasring I said no Okay cool so in any case you you guys are chasing after men out of your league hold on hold on you're chasing after men who are out of your league that's why you constantly find
06:15:12
Brian Atlasyourself in situationships and [ __ ] buddies and sneaky links but the guy will never give you commitment wait and you're chasing after men out of your league who won't give you that commitment and then and then the men who
06:15:25
Brian Atlasare actually in your league you spend your 20s rejecting them you spend your 20 20s rejecting the men who would give you commitment who would be your boyfriend who would give you marriage and then in your 30s maybe you end up
06:15:38
Brian Atlaswith one of these suckers who didn't get much attention when he was younger invariably you get married to him you're still thinking of the really hot guys you [ __ ] in your 20s within three years you've now divorced him and then
06:15:49
Brian Atlasthe cycle continues you probably have maybe you got a kid from him maybe not and uh yeah makes for a terrible Society to live in you're so loud and wrong it's so crazy how is that wrong that's cuz
06:16:01
Brian Atlasyou don't know what guys I'm going after fale hold on hold on hold on fale no no no no hold on hold on female hypergamy is the rule not the exception I what that means hypergamy the tendency to
06:16:12
Brian Atlaslike date outside of your level it could be socioeconomically it could be status it could be looks it could be personality no you're so wrong Brian do you want a funny guy do I want a funny guy do you want a funny guy I want a guy
06:16:25
Brian Atlaswho makes me Google okay are you funny I'm hilarious that's cool so I didn't laugh tonight but okay uh you actually did if you play it back okay cool that's the only thing I just laugh funny lady
06:16:36
Andrew Wilsonwhat do you call a woman who can't have how much do you make per year unbearable how much do you make per year like that was a groer what a that was a grer I
06:16:45
Brian Atlaswrote it myself stop at least like 80,000 okay have you dated a guy who makes a million dollars a year yeah I do I have oh wow that's really hypergamous
06:16:57
Brian Atlasof you to be dating somebody so far outside your socioeconomic status congratulations uh um no because first of all I'm rich in spirit do you think a
06:17:09
Brian Atlasguy who makes 80k can date a girl who's making a million answer the question though do you think a guy who's making 80k is dating a girl who can make a million or is she going after other
06:17:20
Meganmillionaires okay I like how you go from one minute saying acting like you speak what was that thing you said African-American verbage and then now you're speaking like your like Jim
06:17:29
MeganNeutron like what the heck and second of all I look fantastic without Mak here Brian with all these with all these Jimmy Neutron words no literally like
06:17:42
Meganhave you ever dated uh somebody who has status or is famous maybe rapper musician oh it's not a [ __ ] race thing
06:17:55
Meganbro have you ever dated a professional athlete no I don't like athletes have you dated a you can direct those questions over here or a magician have
06:18:04
Meganyou ever date a famous musician okay yeah wow that's weird like you're dating a guy who has more status than you no I'm dating a guy who has talent and like
06:18:16
Alexwho has more status than you okay hypergamy boom roasted you've dated an NFL player correct NBA player he need to stop smiling it makes me annoyed when he smiles no and I have more status than
06:18:27
Andrew Wilsonmoney than any guy I've ever dated so wait what what PL did I just take for my smile you don't like the smile either you're just smiling at like the most like it's like a Sinister smile it's not it's not like a nice smile wait okay
06:18:40
Brian Atlasthat's cool us see when it's paired with the Palpatine keep going Bri the best okay um have you dated an NBA player no NFL player yes what other professional uh no I've only dated one professional
06:18:51
Brian Atlasathlete and it was an NFL player correct and you but you also said you're more famous and I said I have more status and money than him NFL player correct he probably has a Wikipedia page do you no
06:19:04
Brian Atlaswe make her let's focus on the money aspect the money aspect you were making more money than the NFL player I have more money than him yes what's kind of model are
06:19:15
Alexyou I I I have more money than he did I paid I paid for things I paid the bills what kind of model are you kind of feel like we're not getting the answer on the
06:19:26
Alexwhat kind of model oh I'm a regular model like what nudes or no no nothing nude but um I yeah bikini yeah okay told
06:19:36
Brian Atlastheik Runway don't get too worked up lowest salary in NFL uh the minimum salary is
06:19:48
Brian Atlas$700,000 in 2022 next question hold on the minimum salary for a firste player is current oh
06:19:56
Brian Atlasas of 2024 but you I don't know when you dated him is 7 uh 700 wait it's it's almost 8 $100,000 okay you make more than that
06:20:08
Alexyes I do have more money than the guy no do you make more than that a year uh do I make more than $800,000 a
06:20:17
Alexyear I would say I'm in the ballpark of that doing what modeling modeling you you make I just bought myself a Porsche last week next question Brian you got it
06:20:29
Alexyeah did you finance it no I bought it cash C pull you love to pull up Instagram P up pull it up it's on my Instagram
06:20:42
Alextotally cap there's no way okay pull up my Instagram Brian it's Alex 44 forever it's the first picture there he's peanut butter and jealous you L are like why you still a
06:20:53
Brian Atlaswoman hater even your friend you um is nicer you you're like a trust fund baby you can just say it it's okay wait I'm Nic
06:21:01
Brian Atlastrust trust fund trust fund I said have more money sure correct you're being intentionally kind of just like y'all just like y'all but you're being a bit vague about it so it's the
06:21:14
Alexmoney is not from the modeling it's from your parents no it's not from my parents I bought my Porsche last week with my own money my parents did not sign off on
06:21:24
Andrew Wilsonit everything is in my own name and with my own cash paid in full that your parents gave why you I guess I guess the
06:21:32
Andrew Wilsonquestion to ask is are you making through some type of job or modeling almost $800,000 a year yes I am stop the cap
06:21:45
Meganokay wait why do you assume she's capping why do you assume that I'm cing fuar it's giving literally PB and jelly no literally but why do you assume that I'm capping so I mean I'm going to Google the average salary of a model
06:21:57
Brian Atlasgood for you okay but like those are people on Google like so that and I even think this is high they're saying the average salary for model is 995,000 per year I think that's even dubious but in
06:22:07
Brian Atlasany case that's the average salary top earners make around $200,000 a year so you're in the one percentile you're in the 1 percentile models I looked at your
06:22:18
Brian AtlasInstagram you're following while not well why don't we pull up the Instagram by the way I don't need to pull it up but you have 20,000 followers which isn't nothing but also it wouldn't you
06:22:29
Andrew Wilsonhave it listen I'm going to be honest 20,000 followers for who is a million dollar plus a year I didn't say million dollar plus I said I am
06:22:40
Andrew Wilson800,000 yeah 8,000 plus a year corre job 20,000 followers for model is nothing on Instagram it's dirt it's nothing okay well I mean I don't literally nothing I
06:22:51
Andrew Wilsonbarely try all I do is post on Instagram I post like next to nothing ever and I almost have that following okay and I don't do anything on it I literally don't do anything on it what
06:23:03
AlexPublications have you been um I've been I'm not a I'm not a print model like that I do I do Ecom I've done Runway shows I've done music videos I've
06:23:14
Brian Atlasdone campaigns like look I want to spare you the embarrassment just walk back that you lied about your about my income your
06:23:25
Alexincome absolutely not no you're right I can show you I mean I don't know when I when I applied for my car I had to put my income earnings on on the sheet do you want me to bring you I mean it could
06:23:36
Alexbe a rental oh my God rental you're such a hater oh my well okay a rental it's okay it's a rental you're right you got me you got me anyways look um where what
06:23:48
Alexwere we talking about they don't like to see women who make money no they really I don't care I I just doubt it well how much do you make a year I'm a broke
06:23:58
Brian Atlasstarving college student you're in college yes 35 in college yeah I know it's rough deceptive it's my 15th year oh damn uh I'll pray for you I'm a
06:24:11
Brian Atlasstarving college student my degrees will keep me warm at night you know that's a Kanye West never God damn it Tiffany no it's not drop the
06:24:22
Brian Atlasball say that again it's it's like from one of his songs wait say it again my degrees will keep me warm at night but it's not him it's like one of his SKS
06:24:33
Brian Atlasone SK called Dropout yeah good talk anyways what the [ __ ] were we talking about you're you being a hater you makeup and elating your position in the dating Market I know for a fact if
06:24:46
Alexyou were a girl you would wear so much makeup so much makeup I bet you as much as you love to talk about Broke Girls but then when a girl tells them that they're not broke they can't believe it exactly and I bet if you were a man you
06:24:57
Andrew Wilsonwould be I've met a lot of wom who have a lot of money I'm not disputing any of that I'm not even disting you make I I didn't dispute it once all I said was
06:25:07
Andrew Wilsonthat 20,000 Instagram followers for a model of the caliber I would expect to be close to a million a year at 20,000 considering I have 12.1 I'm booked every
06:25:18
Andrew Wilsonsingle day two to three times the day like I don't know I'll let you respond just let me finish I'll let the man finish I'm just saying that it seems rather low is there some other
06:25:31
Andrew Wilsonsocial media platform where you have many more followers than that no there's not yeah that's that you've run all sorts of campaigns all over the world and you're in all these cover magazines
06:25:42
Andrew Wilsonand you have 20,000 Instagram followers I'm guessing the girl next first of all a million dollars a year is not that much money guys like it's really not that much money a million dollar are you
06:25:54
Alexif it's not then you know what I agree with you if a million dollars is not very much money go ahead and send it to me I'll send you the PayPal I'm talking about making that as your salary a year like it's not as much money as it sounds like first of all it's
06:26:09
Andrew Wilson.1% of the United States that makes over 500k a year are you what what are you talking about I mean the earners the high income earners are talking about taxing right now the high income
06:26:22
Alexthreshold starts at 400,000 trust me I'm well aware of that Andrew trust me I'm well aware of that what is that I want you guys to try
06:26:33
Tonyto that's very challenging you can't do this you can't do this you have to bring one finger they have to go in reverse okay oh I'm impressed that's really hard um I'm really happy for you that you're
06:26:44
Brian Atlasum that you're so successful and I believe finger like this one finger backwards one finger forward one finger back why no the same time it's really good brain exercise I wanted to share that
06:26:56
Tonytoday is actually the 50th anniversary of when women were first allowed to hold a credit card in their name and we now the him sick cuz he's jealous oh my God who
06:27:07
Tonythe hell cares I'm really happy for you that you bought a car in cash and women are now like the biggest holders of debt in the country way to go thank you who kind of based wait okay hold on I got to
06:27:20
TTS/Donationslet some of the chats come through hold on we're really winning it LOL paladins donated $100 and2 stop the cap 800k a year is way
06:27:30
TTS/Donationsmore than you having a total amount higher than that a porch is 6 150k I own three 800k a year is way more than that oh wait I got to do the sorry
06:27:42
Brian Atlaslittle paladins I forgot to put on your little special thingy my bad bro here I'll put it on right now thank you Paladin sorry
06:27:52
TTS/Donationsbro I forgot I have aquatic donated $100 the water boy on the Detroit Lions gets paid more yearly than you do who's he talking about about me I guess yeah excuse me sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry
06:28:05
Brian Atlassorry sorry sorry sorry sorry yo quatic thank you dude good to see you in the chat brother the water boy on the Detroit Lions yeah that's crazy son that's crazy that's wild can I ask you one last
06:28:16
Tonyquestion about deception sure if a woman avoids farting in front of you for like the first 6 months of a relationship is she deceiving You by trying to make you think that she doesn't
06:28:27
TTS/Donationsfart 00k a year with 20K Instagram followers I guess than puts Brian a 12 million a yeah stop the cap F shizel my
06:28:38
Andrew Wilsonnizzle thank you la paladins dude good to see you to be to be maximum charitable I'm sure that there's many millionaires who have very low social media following but it just seems like