She Sent Her Ex Gorilla ?! Body Count RESETS After 7 Years?! Single Since 2007?! | Dating Talk #209

Date: 2024-10-30

Duration: 7h 43m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLeah (Ukraine/DT211)>

TTiffany (DT215)>

MMegan (DT209)>

EElizabeth (DT209)>

SSylvie (DT209)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_02Cena(guest)

SPEAKER_03Silly (Sylvie)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Leah(guest)

SPEAKER_05Tiffany(guest)

SPEAKER_06Megan(guest)

SPEAKER_08TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_12Elizabeth(guest)

SPEAKER_13Tony(guest)

SPEAKER_14Alex(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteCena claims projected income of six figures per month from OnlyFans (started 2 months ago). 'I started two months ago... six figures so that's your projected projected income yeah from the rate that I'm going.'

ControversyLeah accuses TTS donors of toxic masculinity for comments about Cena. Andrew spends several minutes arguing that Leah's generalization about men is actually toxic femininity by her own definition.

QuoteBrian asks Leah: 'You're 21, will you be better looking at 31?' — Leah says yes. Cena says she wants a nose job and will be most attractive at 29, still better-looking than now at 59.

QuoteAlex reveals ex cheated on her with her doppelganger, convinced her to cut hair in a bob, then dated a third lookalike. 'He sent my extensions back in because I don't want to be a triplet anymore.'

QuoteTony says: 'penis size cancels out body count' — then clarifies she meant the reverse. Extended discussion on whether sex acts cancel each other out.

QuoteTony reveals single since 2007: 'You've been single since the Bush Administration. Yes. George Bush. That's true. That's affirmative.' — 17 years single.

ControversyAndrew and Alex heated argument about collective standards for unattractive women. Andrew: 'You're dumb as a box of [blank] rocks' — Alex fires back that if women are dying less in combat roles it means they do the job better.

ControversyAndrew quotes Ephesians 5:22 to argue Tiffany (Christian) should be willing to bow to her husband. Tiffany: 'I'm not your maid, I'm your wife.' Extended theological debate about submission, worship vs respect.

QuoteBrian on first date requirements: woman must do laundry on a washboard, hang clothes on clothesline, churn butter within 3 days, and knit a cardigan. 'She has to be a virgin dwarf under 25 who knows how to knit and churn butter.'

QuoteAlex bows to Brian on camera. Then champagne bottle struggles — Brian cannot open 3 consecutive bottles (15-minute ordeal). Cena opens one easily after Brian fails.

OtherTony (walkoff) announces she has to leave at 12:30am, has been waiting 20 minutes. Brian: 'That's kind of rude but okay.' Tony leaves before the final roast session.

QuoteBrian's hypergamy/makeup speech: women use makeup to inflate dating value, chase men out of their league, end up in situationships, then marry 'suckers' in 30s and divorce within 3 years. 'That's why we have two 10s at the table.'

Topics Discussed

Introductions

All 8 guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian also teases Andrew Wilson joining later.

Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares relationship status, longest relationship, who broke up with whom. Tony reveals she's been single since 2007 (17 years). Leah reveals she dated a woman for 2.5yr. Silly reveals her open relationship. Megan reveals ex died of overdose.

Cena's OnlyFans Career

Extended discussion about Cena (18yo) doing OnlyFans to pay for engineering school and provide for parents. Panel debates ethics, parental approval, Asian family dynamics, income claims (~6 figures/month projected), plans to become influencer. Tony encourages her to stick with engineering. TTS donors weigh in heavily.

Self-Ratings (1-10 Looks)

Panel rates their own looks 1-10. Andrew (calling in) joins and asks probing questions about whether guests can describe an unattractive woman. Debate about delusion vs confidence. Brian shows old Instagram photos. Age advancement AI filter used on Discord. Discussion of whether women will look better in 10/20/30 years.

Dating Stories & Pre-Show Notes

Each guest's notable dating stories/hot takes: Alex moved to Oklahoma for cheating ex (doppelganger story). Tony's obese blind date, bad long-distance year-long phone relationship, 6-kid man. Megan's car fire ex story, sending gorilla poop. Silly's open relationship and GameStop boyfriend. Fish pick debate.

Toxic Masculinity Debate

Leah accuses certain donor comments of toxic masculinity. Andrew rebuts: is her generalization about men toxic femininity? Extended back-and-forth about definitions. Leah clarifies she was addressing specific comments about Cena as a woman doing OnlyFans.

Monogamy & Open Relationships

Silly asks why monogamy is 'the way to go.' Andrew argues open relationships fail 95% of the time. Discussion of Silly's open relationship structure. Andrew explains why monogamy creates societal stability. Silly's previous open relationship ended when boyfriend found another woman.

Cultural Nationalism & Dating Within Culture

Tiffany's hot take: date within your culture and nationality. Andrew frames it as 'cultural nationalism.' Japan example. Debate about whether this is racist. Alex disagrees. Tiffany clarifies: Americans should date Americans (assimilated). Discussion of non-English speakers in America.

Only Men Should Make Family Decisions

Tiffany's hot take: men should make family decisions (for benefit of family not themselves). Andrew debates this, argues man's sacrifice (dying for family) justifies leadership. Debate on man laying down his life vs woman's role. Tony asks about income earners and submission.

Sex as Duty in Marriage

Panel debate: is sex a duty/obligation in marriage? All guests say yes with caveats. Andrew poses: woman on chemotherapy — still obligated? Discussion gets nuanced. Jake donor asks: if wife declines sex and man cheats, is she to blame?

Election / Voting Debate

Panel reveals voting intentions. Tiffany won't vote (no point). Tony voted Chase Oliver first, Trump second (Alaska ranked choice). Silly can't vote (Belgian). Andrew argues third-party voting is futile — two-party system inevitable due to collective power dynamics. Upcoming election co-stream announced (Nov 5 Election Day).

Bowing to Your Man

Brian shows bow video of ex-girlfriend. Panel reacts. Tony has softened since first seeing the bow argument. Most women say they would bow for the right man. Tiffany objects (not a maid). Andrew quotes Ephesians 5:22. Discussion of submission, sacrament, Asian wife bowing culture. Andrew: choking analogy (reciprocal obligations).

Champagne Pop Spectacle

Donor sends champagne. Brian struggles to open multiple champagne bottles for 15 minutes (becomes a running bit). Cena opens one easily. Andrew mocks Brian relentlessly. Eventually a different brand opens. Cheers to donor 'Walking Rosco.'

Women in Military / Male Sacrifice

Andrew's argument: men collectively die for women; women don't die for men collectively. Alex counters with women in military. Elizabeth (Army vet) provides insider perspective on women's combat roles. Andrew argues women are physically incapable of same roles. Jessica Lynch cited as example of why women shouldn't be in combat zones.

Hypergamy & Dating Market

Brian's speech on how makeup artificially inflates women's dating market value, causing them to chase men out of their league. Alex pushes back claiming she makes ~$800k/year (disputed by Andrew and Brian given 20K Instagram followers). Body count discussion as context.

Makeup Debate

Andrew and Brian debate whether makeup is deceptive. Panel watches Asian transformation video. Makeup wipes challenge — no one takes off their makeup on camera. Leah admits she wore makeup to fit in with other women at the show. Discussion of deception threshold, men being disadvantaged (can't wear makeup). Brian argues makeup inflates women's dating market value.

Body Count & Alpha Widow Discussion

Panel gives body counts. Brian discusses alpha widow concept applying to men sexually. Discussion of whether virginity is better for a man. Cena and Tony give their body counts.

Andrew Wilson's Outro

Andrew leaves the show (~7:18). Brian announces Andrew will be on Sunday show and Election Day co-stream. Panel thanks Andrew.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasglued the champagne bottles I I destroyed 50% 90% the the the super glue

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Brian Atlasdeadlift or something all right thank you realistic heart I appreciate that okay well here's another cheers walking Rosco if you send another one I

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Brian Atlasreminded them Andrew thank you unbelievable how could you betray me friends like me look you know what this isn't the

Brian Atlasfirst time I failed to open multiple champagne bottles okay damn Trader Joe's why did you get rid of the German bottles okay good talk uh we

Brian Atlaswe were talking about you see why the French lose all the Ws look Andrew look okay the French are very physically strong people you're an look

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Brian Atlaswe beat Napoleon boy we beat Napoleon well you guys have a geographical advantage because wait but the your own Islanders you're Irish Andrew the your

Andrew Wilsonown Islanders you were Waring amongst yourselves okay well I'm Irish and English oh excuse me excuse me Andrew excuse me look so half of me was sent in

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Andrew WilsonCuisine yes what is fast FR what French dish is even famous like thing you can get Burger King you can literally go through a Burger King

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Andrew Wilsonappropriating our Cuisine yeah I going go get a sausage croissant tomorrow in uh in honor of the French people Bri

Brian Atlasfrom Burger King look Andrew you're just jealous about things that you know I can

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Andrew Wilsonmakes me seconding I'm like damn maybe she's considering sending this guy feet pick it seemed like you were it seemed like he had to think about it for a few minutes you were just like well yeah

Andrew Wilsonmaybe maybe I'll put all 10 digits on a photo for you know like it it seemed like there was a possibility for trash band so oh we were talking about the bow video so we'll wrap up on that and then

Brian Atlaswe'll get through the rest of the notes um in addition to the Bowing I on the first date I expect her to do my laundry how do you get her to her to your house on the first date easy bro you picked

Brian Atlashoes huh you picked a hoe that would go to your house on the first dat I picked a very classy girl to go to my house all the classy girls go to your house on

Andrew Wilsonfirst date of course that's that's how it is she do my laundry fold in fact wa wait what is this criticism you're talking to other men on your first first date like what what are you talk what do

Andrew Wilsonyou mean that's not that's not a good criticism to be like Brian has a girl over to his house on the first date if you're texting other guys on the first date it's like what not on the date just

Tonypre what you said it was on the date the guy no not on the date while I'm chatting with some this happened one time when I was chatting with someone and then he was like where'd you go I thought we were chatting and I was like

Tonyoh sorry I was on another chat that wasn't on a date it was on a date I was I was on my couch getting to know you FaZe right I I stated earlier you can't

Tonyreally get to know somebody via messaging it's I'm just trying to get to the date so I can actually meet you I can learn so much more in five minutes of being in person not that I know everything about you in 10 minutes that's not my claim but I can catch a

TonyVibe where you can't you can't catch a vibe in messaging not in my opinion I don't mean to be rude but you're too old to say that Vibe catch a Vibe okay damn I think the hippies came up with that [ __ ] though

Brian AtlasBrian wasn't that hippies who came up too to say no no no but I'm not I'm not trying to be mean to you I'm too old to say catch a Vibe how old are you 35 how

Brian Atlaswould you like me to phrase it no but you can say catch a Vibe no no yeah you are a hippie I like for example I'm 35 okay hold on I'm not allowed to say

Andrew Wilsonbet I can't say bet who told you that I I that's a '90s that's a '90s thing though bet yeah yeah you're [ __ ] up I

Andrew Wilsonfeel like you're allowed to say that's super like P so you're like you're like you know you're cool there's certain things I wouldn't say no I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure that's a '90s thing bro

Brian Atlasno I was in the '90s I was in the '90s too people said heard I've never heard in a in a movie or anything like from that era or even when

Brian AtlasI was young people weren't saying bet in the way they're saying bet like it's like an acknowledgement

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Brian Atlassaid bet in the90s Brian no bet is like a gas 20 I heard it's like a within the it's like a 2020s thing here I'm going to

Brian AtlasGoogle this [ __ ] hold on yeah bet so much more I don't even know okay actually [ __ ] it who cares um okay things first date but when it comes to doing my laundry I take it a step

Brian Atlasfurther she has to do that [ __ ] on a washboard she doesn't get a laundry machine I have a I have a washboard that she has to use also

Brian Atlasclothes lines she doesn't get a dryer either also I expect within the first first three days she has to churn butter that's that's right if she

Tonydoesn't know how to churn butter she ain't the one have you met Nara Smith no who the [ __ ] is that guy I think at times that you're intentionally provocative absurdly provocative when it

Brian Atlascomes to laundry right when it comes to laundry if she won't find someone who will if she wanted to she would also she should be able to make me

Brian Atlasa quilt a what a quilt quilt you don't know about quilts Cena you to get with the game get with the program you don't

Brian Atlasknow about quilts bet bet I also would like a pair of MOX

Brian Atlasmoxin moccasin my bad and she has to knit me a card again oh that's right that's what I deserve because I am

Tonya king according to who a virgin dwarf under 25 who knows how to knit turn Butter

TonyJesus I know my worth you know your worth I know my worth okay okay that's good I'm a strong independent King King all the kns I know are virgins under

Leah25 are you are you okay yeah are you are you cuz what you just mentioned

AlexI mean I identify oh okay I got to take a break reaction oh oh I think those people were right and

Brian Atlas[Laughter] they she's I don't know if you can hear her she's cackling in the bathroom wait wait be

Brian Atlasquiet can you guys hear that yeah she's cackling in the bathroom okay awkward uh wait where were we okay pre-show notes okay back to the pre-show notes so why don't really quick Tiffany why won't you

Tiffanyknow you're kind of traditional is I guess yeah why don't you why wouldn't you do the bow because I'm not your maid I'm your wife we're on equal standing and we don't live in the

Andrew Wilson1950s you're a Christian right yeah so what does have to do evil standing what are you talking about yeah it goes what is the what are you an egalitarian

Andrew WilsonChristian Christianity is a patristic faith patriarchy go it is it is but it's we're of equal value yeah you're of equal ontological value nobody would ever say otherwise nobody would ever say

Andrew Wilsonthat a woman by bowing I'm kind of say it's like kind of implying that I'm like lesser than you ah now we get to the heart of it so what you're saying is is you don't want to do it because there's an implication there so yes Christianity

Andrew Wilsonis a patristic faith you can see bowing all over the Bible you bow to God you're supposed to treat your husband submit your saying not to your husband isn't CHR that's just like so stupid I well

Andrew WilsonI'd like to know then are you supposed to submit to your husband as you are unto the Lord yes and would you bow to God yes okay then what's your

Andrew Wilsonargument your husband is not your God I'm sorry are you supposed to submit to your husband as you would unto the

Andrew WilsonLord would you like me to read it for you here I'll read it for you I just want to make sure that uh the Bible that we don't get this wrong

Andrew Wilsonright we'll just make sure this is Ephesians 5:22 wives submit to your husbands as to the Lord so I just want to I just want to know is part of your submission to

Brian AtlasGod bowing that's for you

Andrew Wilsongo um oh no you you to you're kind of interpreting it in a weird way answer the question yeah I'm just wondering is part of your submission to God

Andrew Wilsonbowing technically you kneel yeah I mean you kneel you would you wouldn't bow I'm sorry you don't ever bow your head to pray damn you do while you pray oh you

Andrew Wilsondo that's crazy and who are you praying to God and is that a form of submission when you bow your head yeah and are you supposed to submit to your husband as you do unto the

TiffanyLord it is a form of submission but it's also kind of a form of worship wouldn't worship your husband Andrew ask that question

Andrew Wilsonagain yeah so here's the question very simple you agree with me that you bow your head for prayer yes and who are you bowing your

Andrew Wilsonhead to God and is that a form of submission to God yes but it's also hang on let me ask the questions and then you can answer and do you agree

Andrew Wilsonthat Ephesians 5:22 says wives submit to your husbands as to the Lord yeah gotcha [ __ ] okay so then if you are to bow to God as a form of submission and you are to submit to your husband as you went

Andrew Wilsonunto the Lord what could your objection to bowing possibly be bowing is a form of worship mhm you

Andrew Wilsondon't you don't worship your husband is a form of worship yeah it is prove it you prove it I don't need to prove it your claim you prove it it isn't how do

Andrew WilsonI how how do how do I prove your claim that bowing is worship wait also Andrew so you're saying so you're saying in every Asian country when they bow to each other they're worshiping each other so they're

Andrew Wilsonall a bunch of Heretics so Christians depends on I want even all Christians in Asian nations are Heretics no because even in Asia wives

Tiffanydon't bow to their husbands you do that with a stranger or someone older than you as what a sign of what respect a

Andrew Wilsonsign of respect and submission to their station station yeah what do you mean

Andrew Wilsontheir station a submission to their station in South Korea North Korea Japan any of these Asian Nations if somebody

Andrew Wilsonis your boss you bow as a form of submission to their Authority yeah yeah oh okay that's really weird so it's not heretical for them to do it but somehow

Andrew Wilsonfor you it becomes worship can you explain how it's possible that you can submit in Asia where the workers bow to their boss they don't Asian wives don't bow to their

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Andrew Wilsonconversation go ahead tiffan yeah yeah so uh I'm I'm sorry this is very confusing to me where did you come up with the idea that Asian wives don't bow

Tiffanyto their husbands no um from being in Asia which part South Korea South Korea they definitely bow to their husbands yeah no they don't I'm literally hod

Andrew Wilsonthey definitely do yeah they definitely do no they don't not only do they so here's the thing right they where's your proof where is your pro brought himself

Andrew Wilsonback wife and yeah that chick bowed that chick bowed oh yeah she did she came from a highly traditional family and she bowed all the time suck it suck

Brian Atlasit that's right baby that's right took three tries W suckers you thought you get you thought you were

Brian Atlasgoing to get hatrick Rosco but no the hatrick

Brian Atlasdenied this is one of leest performances oh denied denied Rosco boom roasted sorry go ahead keep talking about that

Andrew Wilsonhang on so you you speak do you speak Korean yeah Yogi meu juio um give me beer yeah give me beer

Andrew Wilsonwhat and give me a beer I only know that because my brother right station in Korea came back with a Korean wife who bow her [ __ ] head to him all the time so I'm pretty

Andrew Wilsonintricately familiar with the culture and the expression of the culture and yet wives definitely bow to their husbands in no they don't I have like four aunts def yeah they definitely do

Andrew Wilsonyeah it's very common now maybe now you could make the argument that some don't I'm sure that they don't but uh but yeah culturally that was something that happened in Korea basically in fact for

Andrew Wilsontraditional women right that still happens uh to this day in Korea no I don't think so oh okay when's the last

Andrew Wilsontime you went to Korea this summer and you did and you're saying that no wives are bowing their heads in no that's so

Andrew Wilsonweird that's just weird no one does that yeah they do it but okay I do want the last time you've been in

Andrew WilsonKorea I haven't been in Korea but again but again it doesn't matter you can still be familiar with the culture even if you have not been in the culture [ __ ]

Andrew Wilsonown and in any case none of that refutes the argument that that bowing is worship that's that would be saying that all Japanese people are worshiping anytime they bow to each

Andrew Wilsonother that makes no sense it depends on the C it depends culture so why would the culture why would the vow here instantly mean worship then that makes that makes

Andrew Wilsonno sense we got to do a cheers really quick to to to Rosco by the way the other three champagne bottles we have wait for me wait for me I got to have the woman bring me down a drink real Qui just give me give me give me one minute

Andrew Wilsongive woman I know you're listening to this broadcast bring down a double for me and then and then [ __ ] bow while you're at no I'm kidding I'm joking I'm it was funny but anyway oh uh the we

Brian Atlashave three remaining champagne bottles and they're all the first brand that I struggled to open you can still get your

Brian Atlashatrick you can still get the hatrick just saying just saying uh oh we have our friend Selena gornes Selena Gores donated

TTS/Donations$100 I have to sleep but before I do I have to say you're brick has been the thing since the 9s been saying my it has

Brian Atlasmany uses but none are new the slang term bet originated in African-American vernacular English a a and likely comes

Brian Atlasfrom the gambling word world bet is used to express Okay blah blah blah origin oh [ __ ] the term was recorded in a

Brian Atlascollection of Campus slaying in the 1990s and was like popularized by black popular culture wait when was this look

Brian Atlasdude when look [ __ ] Google this is [ __ ] [ __ ] I did not start hearing bet used in this way until like 2020s

Alexuntil the '90s are you familiar with African-American vernacular English yes I speak it [Laughter]

Brian Atlasfluently watch this don't do it don't do it don't do it don't do it I was just gonna say I wasn't GNA say the n word you thought you thought I was gonna say the NW or something no I was just going

Brian Atlasto say word up fiszel my nizzle keep my arm so brizzle why you don't look at me that way bet bet Brian bet

Brian AtlasShakespeare right I [Music] am not sure if I'm going to get canceled

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TTS/Donationsrandomly touches the back of your neck comes behind you while doing dishes and Embraces you kissing you your hair is perfect right now and fits your

Leahbeautiful face stop it get all right Brian I'm ready for the cheers now you know what

Brian AtlasPanda by the end of this podcast I start liking you thank you to to Rosco to Rosco Salud Sal Salud

Brian AtlasRosco what is he drinking he's drinking double shots of vodka oh or no it's Ever Clear actually he's

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Brian Atlaslook I never heard bet until the 20 2021

Brian Atlasmaybe am I just getting yeah you're insane man you you looked it up yourself I'm getting gasit yeah maybe look maybe the term existed

Andrew Wilsonin a small no it was in movies it was in '90s movies and all the stupid mcoms you'd hear some dummy say bet it no somebody find me a clip clip it send it

Brian Atlasto me if it's true I will concede to Andrew that never mind um anyways good talk oh

Leahhow do you feel about the term cooked is it that's new I love this term are you cooked I'm I'm kind of cooked I'm like you been getting cooked that's for sure

Leahyeah uh do you guys use it I love this it just cracks me up all the time were you cooked before or after you got that back of head tattoo no I've been cooked since like four years

Leahold it's just a yeah it's so what's your mental diagnosis no no no no no no I'm totally healthy but you know

Andrew Wilsonthe goofy P you know aspect of me it's it's cooked I'm totally yeah you're oh hey hey Brian I got the clip I got the clip it's from Kid and Play Brian it's

Andrew Wilsonfrom Kid and Play bet Brian bet Brian kid play what what now Brian what now all right uh send it to my Instagram

Brian Atlassir send it to my Instagram said they found it somebody said they found it well listen up

Brian Atlasokay sounds good um what were we talking about here let's get through the notes we got to get through the notes here you know got to get through the notes uh going back to you

Brian AtlasTony we talked about the obese guy uh oh oh you okay this whole stemmed from you said you want to honor and worship a man but you never bow to a man even if he's your king I'm not so even like you're perfect man you for your perfect man

TonyI've already revised my position on this when we first started talking about it that um The more I've learned about what what it looks like it's not quite as um big of a production as I originally

Tonyimagined in my head and when I saw the video I've I've I've softened into this idea um but not for any man and not on the first state but for the right man I would do what he needs to feel special

Brian Atlassure you said you want to be submissive to man and follow his lead but that doesn't mean that I shouldn't have any input that should be fairly considered in big decisions does negotiation and compromise have a place in relationship how does that fit into absolute

Brian Atlassubmission Andrew probably would like to have it back and forth with you on this one um and can I add something to that sure um because this is something that we

Tonytalked about earlier what if I'm the primary income earner in a relationship and maybe that's not ideal but when it

Tonycomes to Abs if if I was the if I was more of the provider would the expectation of the role change like or would I be expected to relinquish all of

Brian Atlasmy income to the man to make decisions with it I yes you you would and I'll explain why one thing real quick first

Brian Atlasif I were to start dating Kylie Jenner yeah she's G to listen to

Andrew Wilsonme I will I will explain my rationale before you say you want to die alone yeah yeah I and I I I like hearing your point let's start let's start with this

Andrew Wilsonif you had to put a value on on something what is the most valuable thing you can think of the most valuable thing you could ever Envision the thing

Andrew Wilsonwhich if it's taken away can never be gotten

Andrew Wilsonback I would say I would say life life okay say life would you disagree with that no you can never get that back yeah right once it's taken you can never get

Andrew Wilsonit back a man's obligation is to die on your behalf so if there's a threat or danger to you his job is to die before you die you cannot replace that so he

Andrew Wilsoncannot be replaced by anything else because his job is to sacrifice himself for you so yeah you give up the money and you give up the control you give up the power but the exchange to all of

Andrew Wilsonthat is that when the lifeboats go off of the Titanic who gets in them first who gets in them first women and children yeah women and children so if

Andrew Wilsonthe man is to be the sacrifice for you he gives his life for you then why is it problematic for you to turn over the dominance in a relationship to

Tonyhim I don't want to be the dominant but especially if I'm the bread winner I would want

Andrew Wilsonsignificant consideration die women don't die for men ever they don't ever die for men men die for women all the time non-stop women do not sacrifice their lives for men you can't show me a

Andrew Wilsonhistoric standard anywhere where that's ever happened they don't do it there may be some exceptions where some woman has done self- sacrifice on behalf of a man for her life versus his essentially it

Andrew Wilsonnever happens I mean for all practical purposes men are always the ones who give up their lives on behalf of women and children their actual life now uh you can make an argument that well a

Andrew Wilsonwoman gives up her life over years of time and blah blah blah but that would apply to men too Men actually lay their lives down defense of you defense of the nation defense of your home defense of your honor defense of your pride defense

Andrew Wilsonof your name they lay their lives down for everything here's an example of this right I just want to ask the panel and we can ask the entire panel this question and I think that through this

Andrew Wilsonwe'll be able to reason this out if a man who you are with you're walking down the street and another man insults your honor do you think that it's appropriate

Andrew Wilsonand would you want the man that you're with to protect your honor meaning if a if a man you're with you're walking down the street arm and arm and another guy comes by and pinches

Andrew Wilsonyour ass don't you prefer that your man turns around and smacks him across the mouth raise a hand yeah that's right that's right and about

Andrew Wilsonand hang on when does that happen in Reverse not often so the thing is is that men are always there putting by the way a physical confrontation with

Andrew Wilsonanother man doing that on your behalf leads to death it leads to death for men just protecting your honor leads to death for men all the time in fact more

Andrew Wilsonmen in the United States are killed with feet and hands than they are with AR-15s because this is such a happen stance thatr it happens so often that men engage in physical combat with each

Andrew Wilsonother often on behalf of women's honor this does not happen in Reverse so since that is the case yeah give up your money yeah give up your money give up your control because that's what you get in

Andrew Wilsonexchange we don't get that in exchange who's dying for us not you not women women aren't Dying For Men show me where women are collectively Dying For Men

Andrew Wilsonanywhere ever nowhere nowhere go ahead I'm waiting I want to hear giving birth to their child collectively when collectively can you

Andrew Wilsonguys name that women have ever died on behalf of men laid their lives down on behalf of men give me child birth no they don't do it during child birth they're not doing it on behalf of men

Alexthey're doing it on behalf of their children they're doing it on behalf of their um I think women are doing it on behalf of the baby that their man put inside of them so I would argue that they are doing it for and a man is not

Andrew Wilsonphysically capable of doing that now they kill their children now they kill him they don't even bother having them anymore nobody was talking about that yeah but we are talking about that isn't

Andrew Wilsonyou saying that you saying that you will birth your child you're not doing that on behalf of your man that's Insanity a child can be a man as well right I think it means like your man like your your

Andrew Wilsonpartner yeah we're talking about somebody who is doing the thing for the purpose of the protection of EX thing men lay their lives down and the

Andrew Wilsonhistoric standard that I can appeal to is that men collectively always lay their lives down for women and prot your hang on stop stop let me finish the reverse never happens point to me where

Silly (Sylvie)the reverse ever happens okay so protecting your baby by giving child birth isn't enough I don't even know what that

Andrew Wilsonmeans what does that even mean so abortion or not it's is the same it's not protecting your child if you get but you're if you're bearing you're burying your child you're not

Andrew Wilsondoing that on behalf of your man you're doing that on behalf of you and the child yeah so a child can be a man as well right no a child's not a man no

Alexwhat what what I would be a boy masculine then I think that's just like a women's role though that men are not capable of so I

Alexmean you are doing it on behalf of your joint couple as a woman and you are risking your life we expected to do this for strangers children and strangers women otherwise we would not have a Lifeboat analogy would

Andrew Wilsonwe I think it's also kind of like a dangerous thing though I think like you should answer to what I actually just said which is why do we have the Lifeboat analogy that women and children get a life I'm not disagreeing with you it's not my those aren't my women and my

Alexchildren why do they get on the lifeboats first I'm not disagreeing with you that that's a man's role but I'm just saying that I do think that a woman going through child birth is an example of her doing something that's risking

Alexher life on behalf of a man they're not doing it on behalf of men demonstrate doing it on behalf of your husb man you're doing it on behalf of your husband who put the child inside of you no you're not doing it first of all most

Andrew Wilsonchild births are not even done anymore by the husband these get Knocked Up by some random guy that you never even talk to again how are you doing on behalf of men why do women and children get in the

Andrew WilsonLifeboat because men have always been sacrificial Lambs on behalf of other men and women and children because you're the weaker Sexes and you both both women and children look you laugh how am I

Tonywrong are I'm sorry women the stronger or weaker sex does it have anything to do with women and children can inform the future more so than men like children can to

Andrew Wilsonbe one man can repopulate against 50 women but women are limited to only being able to be pregnant from one man at a time so no that argument makes no

Andrew Wilsonsense either there to be the truth is is that one single man could repopulate the Earth one woman could not one single man could repopulate the entire planet Earth

Andrew Wilsonas long as could screw a different chick and impregnator a woman cannot do that that's why we need when you talk about the necessity of the future a single woman could not be

Andrew Wilsonnecessary to the Future whereas a single man could be yeah I agree that men and women should be on earth both of them oh well I mean that's great what a great argument I also agree

Andrew Wilsonthat they deserve to be on earth men are stronger but they need women and and women I agree that the whatever podcast Studio should have Windows I mean I I don't know what what the helling about yeah we we both not need each other

Andrew Wilsonright yes so what yeah well yeah okay but this has nothing to do with my argument this has nothing to do with my argument oh but you can have the argum here's my argument ready I'm going to tell you my

Andrew Wilsonargument again because you just don't seem to understand it right men collectively lay their lives down for women women collectively do not lay their lives down what about women in the military what about them are they I'm

Alexsorry do you think that the military is made up of mostly men or women no no no I'm just speaking about the specific women in the milit who are they what is what what do you think the word collectively means I'm

Alexasking you a question Andrew women in the military women in the military restate my argument I'm restating my question women in the military I need

Andrew Wilsonyou to contend with the argument I made first can you restate my argument this has nothing to do with what I'm talking about can you restate my argument your argument is that women do not lay their

Andrew Wilsonlives down for men women in the military have signed up that's not my argument you're lying the collective group of women in the military collectively the group of them what does word Collective

Alexmean the group of women in the military that would be the collective of women in the military are laying their lives down that is a collective of women okay so so just to get this right just to get this

Andrew Wilsonright I just want to make sure that that that we're correct here let us assume for a second that if we're looking at all the prisons in the United States with prison guard and you have one prison that has more female guards than

Andrew Wilsonmen but all the other prisons have more male guards than they do women when you say the word who collectively make up the most amount of prison guards okay

Andrew Wilsonthe majority you would say well yes it's men except in this one prison who gives a [ __ ] it it has no no bearing on the argument at all okay so women in the military are not laying their lives down

Andrew Wilsonfor men they're only laying their lives down for American women I'll tell you what give me a war name any War you want and I'm going to tell you the combat deaths of women in that war from being in the mil speak present

Alextimes speak in present time any present War any present War I'm talking about present Wars that we are I'm talking about present Wars too any present War okay I think that you're just upset that

Andrew WilsonI I disproved your point and it's okay didn't disprove it's okay it's okay women lay their lives down for men too it's okay talking can you answer my question can you give me a present War and I'll give

Alexyou the deaths the military deaths of there's not an equal number of men and women in the military or a majority of women in the military so of course there's going to be more men who die if you put more men out to die more men

Andrew Wilsonwill die per capita then we can do it per capita right so we can take the percentage of women who are in the military who die versus the percentage of men are there women in the military dying on behalf of men yes or no we can

Andrew Wilsonjust do that by per capita right okay we can just do it per capita okay no I'm asking you are there women wom in the military who are dying on behalf of men there some women there are some women who die in the military yes okay on

Andrew Wilsonbehalf of men that would not show that the collective of women are willing to die on behalf of men I can demonstate I think that when when the military is 50/50 let's revisit this conversation and then I guess that let's let's visit

Andrew Wilsonit right now we have visited it and I think you don't want to visit it anymore I'm I want to visit it right this second I I've been visited it I've been visited it and I told you that women give me a

Andrew Wilsonwar in modernity any war in fact that you want and I will give you the combat deaths of women in that war and will match let's look at the military enrollment of women it's not the same let me finish let me finish I think

Andrew Wilsoncurrently we're in war with him let me finish so that you can understand my point I will take the per capita deaths of women in that war in the percentage and will match them towards men in the same role who do you think dies more

Andrew Wilsonokay yeah but are women assigned the same combat roles as men in these what I just said you're not even listening so one more time no but I'm but I'm saying women are willing to do those roles are they assigned to them though it's like talking to a brick wall you don't even understand what I'm saying I do

Andrew Wilsonunderstand what you're saying you're saying per capita death so stop talking I can give you the argument and resp goad goad okay I will take all of the

Andrew Wilsoncombat roles of women all of them match them against all the combat roles of men in the same exact capacity and then we can see who dies more in those capacities

Andrew Wilsoncomat are just SM get the argument out you're already freaking out I can't even get the argum calm yeah okay so anyway I will take all of the combat deaths match it against

Andrew Wilsonthe percentage of women in those roles versus men and then we can determine per capita how many women in the same exact role die versus men which one do you think dies more in the role versus the

Alexpercentage of them in that role can I respond Andrew yes I I think you just proved that women do the job better and don't get killed oo I don't know what you're proving that women have done the

Alexjob better and are not getting killed what I mean isn't that what you just proved that you're dumb as a box of [ __ ]

Alexrocks is that not what you just proved though that if women and men are doing the same combat roles and men are dying at a higher rate than the women doing the roles clearly these roles should only be assigned to women then it's

Andrew Wilsonbecause the they assign them the way that they assign them in combat right the women are still given a lesser job even in the combat that's what I just said before that though I said that women are not assigned the same roles

Alexyou said let's talk about men and women in the same roles but that's not I don't know why I don't know why you don't understand this you can be infantry and a woman you can be assigned to the role

Andrew Wilsonof infantry and a woman you can even be sent to the nation as infantry as a woman right and with the the male infantry that is the same job allocation however still those

Andrew Wilsonassignments are going to be less rigorous on behalf of women because of capability yes the percentage of women because of assumed capability no no so um hi I'm Elizabeth I'm prior service

Elizabethmilitary I served in the Army in my husband's active duty Army he's in the Infantry thank you okay go ahead um I would say that women are not dying in the same amount as men but I also would

Elizabethsay even if they are in an 11 Bravo slot for infantry they're not doing the same tasks as men and whether it be from assignment think it's because they're not capable of doing those believe that

Andrew Wilsonthey're not capable of doing some of the roles that men do in the military as a woman literally are incapable physically of doing those jobs

Andrew Wilsonas an 11 Bravo or as a 13 Bravo or as a 19 Delta or as I mean whatever combat role you want to assign it to it doesn't matter it's not because women are doing

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