She Sent Her Ex Gorilla ?! Body Count RESETS After 7 Years?! Single Since 2007?! | Dating Talk #209

Date: 2024-10-30

Duration: 7h 43m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLeah (Ukraine/DT211)>

TTiffany (DT215)>

MMegan (DT209)>

EElizabeth (DT209)>

SSylvie (DT209)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_02Cena(guest)

SPEAKER_03Silly (Sylvie)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Leah(guest)

SPEAKER_05Tiffany(guest)

SPEAKER_06Megan(guest)

SPEAKER_08TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_12Elizabeth(guest)

SPEAKER_13Tony(guest)

SPEAKER_14Alex(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteCena claims projected income of six figures per month from OnlyFans (started 2 months ago). 'I started two months ago... six figures so that's your projected projected income yeah from the rate that I'm going.'

ControversyLeah accuses TTS donors of toxic masculinity for comments about Cena. Andrew spends several minutes arguing that Leah's generalization about men is actually toxic femininity by her own definition.

QuoteBrian asks Leah: 'You're 21, will you be better looking at 31?' — Leah says yes. Cena says she wants a nose job and will be most attractive at 29, still better-looking than now at 59.

QuoteAlex reveals ex cheated on her with her doppelganger, convinced her to cut hair in a bob, then dated a third lookalike. 'He sent my extensions back in because I don't want to be a triplet anymore.'

QuoteTony says: 'penis size cancels out body count' — then clarifies she meant the reverse. Extended discussion on whether sex acts cancel each other out.

QuoteTony reveals single since 2007: 'You've been single since the Bush Administration. Yes. George Bush. That's true. That's affirmative.' — 17 years single.

ControversyAndrew and Alex heated argument about collective standards for unattractive women. Andrew: 'You're dumb as a box of [blank] rocks' — Alex fires back that if women are dying less in combat roles it means they do the job better.

ControversyAndrew quotes Ephesians 5:22 to argue Tiffany (Christian) should be willing to bow to her husband. Tiffany: 'I'm not your maid, I'm your wife.' Extended theological debate about submission, worship vs respect.

QuoteBrian on first date requirements: woman must do laundry on a washboard, hang clothes on clothesline, churn butter within 3 days, and knit a cardigan. 'She has to be a virgin dwarf under 25 who knows how to knit and churn butter.'

QuoteAlex bows to Brian on camera. Then champagne bottle struggles — Brian cannot open 3 consecutive bottles (15-minute ordeal). Cena opens one easily after Brian fails.

OtherTony (walkoff) announces she has to leave at 12:30am, has been waiting 20 minutes. Brian: 'That's kind of rude but okay.' Tony leaves before the final roast session.

QuoteBrian's hypergamy/makeup speech: women use makeup to inflate dating value, chase men out of their league, end up in situationships, then marry 'suckers' in 30s and divorce within 3 years. 'That's why we have two 10s at the table.'

Topics Discussed

Introductions

All 8 guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian also teases Andrew Wilson joining later.

Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares relationship status, longest relationship, who broke up with whom. Tony reveals she's been single since 2007 (17 years). Leah reveals she dated a woman for 2.5yr. Silly reveals her open relationship. Megan reveals ex died of overdose.

Cena's OnlyFans Career

Extended discussion about Cena (18yo) doing OnlyFans to pay for engineering school and provide for parents. Panel debates ethics, parental approval, Asian family dynamics, income claims (~6 figures/month projected), plans to become influencer. Tony encourages her to stick with engineering. TTS donors weigh in heavily.

Self-Ratings (1-10 Looks)

Panel rates their own looks 1-10. Andrew (calling in) joins and asks probing questions about whether guests can describe an unattractive woman. Debate about delusion vs confidence. Brian shows old Instagram photos. Age advancement AI filter used on Discord. Discussion of whether women will look better in 10/20/30 years.

Dating Stories & Pre-Show Notes

Each guest's notable dating stories/hot takes: Alex moved to Oklahoma for cheating ex (doppelganger story). Tony's obese blind date, bad long-distance year-long phone relationship, 6-kid man. Megan's car fire ex story, sending gorilla poop. Silly's open relationship and GameStop boyfriend. Fish pick debate.

Toxic Masculinity Debate

Leah accuses certain donor comments of toxic masculinity. Andrew rebuts: is her generalization about men toxic femininity? Extended back-and-forth about definitions. Leah clarifies she was addressing specific comments about Cena as a woman doing OnlyFans.

Monogamy & Open Relationships

Silly asks why monogamy is 'the way to go.' Andrew argues open relationships fail 95% of the time. Discussion of Silly's open relationship structure. Andrew explains why monogamy creates societal stability. Silly's previous open relationship ended when boyfriend found another woman.

Cultural Nationalism & Dating Within Culture

Tiffany's hot take: date within your culture and nationality. Andrew frames it as 'cultural nationalism.' Japan example. Debate about whether this is racist. Alex disagrees. Tiffany clarifies: Americans should date Americans (assimilated). Discussion of non-English speakers in America.

Only Men Should Make Family Decisions

Tiffany's hot take: men should make family decisions (for benefit of family not themselves). Andrew debates this, argues man's sacrifice (dying for family) justifies leadership. Debate on man laying down his life vs woman's role. Tony asks about income earners and submission.

Sex as Duty in Marriage

Panel debate: is sex a duty/obligation in marriage? All guests say yes with caveats. Andrew poses: woman on chemotherapy — still obligated? Discussion gets nuanced. Jake donor asks: if wife declines sex and man cheats, is she to blame?

Election / Voting Debate

Panel reveals voting intentions. Tiffany won't vote (no point). Tony voted Chase Oliver first, Trump second (Alaska ranked choice). Silly can't vote (Belgian). Andrew argues third-party voting is futile — two-party system inevitable due to collective power dynamics. Upcoming election co-stream announced (Nov 5 Election Day).

Bowing to Your Man

Brian shows bow video of ex-girlfriend. Panel reacts. Tony has softened since first seeing the bow argument. Most women say they would bow for the right man. Tiffany objects (not a maid). Andrew quotes Ephesians 5:22. Discussion of submission, sacrament, Asian wife bowing culture. Andrew: choking analogy (reciprocal obligations).

Champagne Pop Spectacle

Donor sends champagne. Brian struggles to open multiple champagne bottles for 15 minutes (becomes a running bit). Cena opens one easily. Andrew mocks Brian relentlessly. Eventually a different brand opens. Cheers to donor 'Walking Rosco.'

Women in Military / Male Sacrifice

Andrew's argument: men collectively die for women; women don't die for men collectively. Alex counters with women in military. Elizabeth (Army vet) provides insider perspective on women's combat roles. Andrew argues women are physically incapable of same roles. Jessica Lynch cited as example of why women shouldn't be in combat zones.

Hypergamy & Dating Market

Brian's speech on how makeup artificially inflates women's dating market value, causing them to chase men out of their league. Alex pushes back claiming she makes ~$800k/year (disputed by Andrew and Brian given 20K Instagram followers). Body count discussion as context.

Makeup Debate

Andrew and Brian debate whether makeup is deceptive. Panel watches Asian transformation video. Makeup wipes challenge — no one takes off their makeup on camera. Leah admits she wore makeup to fit in with other women at the show. Discussion of deception threshold, men being disadvantaged (can't wear makeup). Brian argues makeup inflates women's dating market value.

Body Count & Alpha Widow Discussion

Panel gives body counts. Brian discusses alpha widow concept applying to men sexually. Discussion of whether virginity is better for a man. Cena and Tony give their body counts.

Andrew Wilson's Outro

Andrew leaves the show (~7:18). Brian announces Andrew will be on Sunday show and Election Day co-stream. Panel thanks Andrew.

Transcript

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Alexhusband's needs are met I did not say by you if you're bald and in chemotherapy and you don't feel like doing it and you're like you know what like I'm just focused on trying to live right now if

Alexyou want to go sleep with somebody else and that's just that just to fulfill your physical needs like I think that that would be a potential solution I mean yeah but if they're if they're Christians they can't do that that's not

Brian Atlasan option right Flashlight by the way we're going to do a I mean we you can guys can keep talking we're going to do a uh TTS pizza party it's going to be a roast session

Alexif you guys want so get your TTS you guys continue talking though but we got some pizza here give the girls a little breather yeah so I think it's Case by

Alexcase basis but I think that your oig I thought it was obligation before no obligation to make sure your man's needs are met but did I say that that's your personal obligation if you're struggling

Alexand in chemo it might not be your obligation maybe give the obligation to the to somebody to take it over temporarily and then when you're feeling back to your best self and you feel like you can you know all right all right well let me get the rest of the answers

Cenain real quick so we'll go next you said it's an obligation right so what do you think in this situation I think it's still an obligation to have sex but I think your

Cenaopinion matters like the wife's opinion if she's in that state it should depend on her okay well that doesn't sound like an obligation that sounds like it's

Leahoptional but we'll go to the next one then uh obligation remember you hey she has an obligation yeah I would say yes of course it's a very strong word but I

Leahbelieve that in the couple that actually does have a potential and that is strong enough um to survive in the future as

Leahthe as the team it will be an obligation that will not hurt them in any way NE emotional or physical you know well that doesn't sound like an obligation it

Leahsounds like it's just optional right no no I I did not want to make it sound optional I believe that it is an obligation and the healthy couples that have a chance to survive in the future

Leahin case that this is the kind of bonding that will last this obligation should

Leahnot give anybody any discomfort and in case um the situation happens well it definitely needs attention and needs to

TTS/Donationsbe fixed either yeah through therapy it needs to be processed and Lucas donated $100 Andrew to answer a rhetorical question dotted simply a tested acknowledgement that the sum total of

TTS/Donationstheir intrinsic value is predicated on their triumvirate of holes [Laughter] that's the funniest [ __ ] I've heard all night you don't even understand what he

Andrew Wilsonsaid but it's so funny okay so um but I don't understand you can't just be any discomfort like uh oh I'm tired from work you wouldn't accept that right so it's not just predicated on discomfort right there there has to be

TTS/Donationssome other criteria that we're applying here the legendary trash Panda donated $100 panel you meet the perfect guy six

TTS/Donationsfigure income early' 40s dad B wants to wife you but refuses to get legally married Covenant marriage only Share three I can fix you let me see damn

Leahfeet what the [ __ ] do you mean by that he can fix you uh but but what how what does it have to do with my

Leahfeet I I genuinely want to understand what happened what does it mean why why feet he masturbates to women's feet all right

Andrew Wilsonbut how can he fix me by that well he's not saying he would fix you by that he's saying he could fix you using external mechanisms but he wants a picture of

TTS/Donationsyour feet to fap to because he's a cumer all right anyway Johnny spal donated $30

TTS/DonationsAndrew I was looking forward to your debate with Stiller Hunter why did you have to make him leave like

TTS/Donationsa whiny little bald baby bch oh W for Andrew O Brian no hot dogs today Johnny

TTS/DonationsJust Pizza Jake donated $30 if a wife declines to have sex and a man sleeps with another woman is she to blame good question I mean we were that was

TTS/Donationsliterally going to be the lead in to the to the next question right Sons of Liberty donated 29 $9.99 who will or would you vote for if

TTS/Donationsyou could Trump or cumala if cumala name one policy of hers that you support besides abortion wait so we'll get back to Jake's we'll read uh we'll answer

Brian AtlasSons of Liberty so Jake said here I'll pull it back up really quick I want the entire panel to answer sorry guys it's pause one sec Jake donated

TTS/Donations$30 if a wife declines to have sex and a man sleeps with another woman is she to blame here just show up hands on this from the whole panel is she to

Brian Atlasblame is the hand yes or okay all right how about we'll go around then yes or no yeah yeah the hand is yes no they can't do it they don't understand the instructions go ahead okay um yes or

Alexno not always okay do I accept the non so I'm saying that like sometimes I feel like if a woman is being like if you haven't had sex with your wife in like a long

Alexlong time like she's being like she's just not into it whatever and he cheats like it is it's not like justifiable but I guess it's more understandable okay what about

Brian Atlasyou no no these aren't simple absolute questions to answer we're doing we're doing a brief session you got to get

Silly (Sylvie)answers here no but it's my turn to answer Andrew's question next no if they if they talked about it and they agreed upon it yes okay but you guys are all

Brian Atlasfine like Justified he can divorce her you're fine with that oh yeah okay all right and then oh uh who are you gonna vote for Trump or

Brian AtlasCala Trump you're a Canadian Trudeau or poier

Brian Atlaspoier Trump okay we are gonna Annex Canada I'm not eligible to word who who who would you vote

Leahfor I will skip that question sorry I feel like we know I've been a third party voter since 2012 so you're so you're vote Trump this

Tonytime though right I've been a third party voter for since 2012 and I sent in my absentee valot before I left and it was it was not for RFK it

Tonywas not for Trump no you have failed us you have failed Us in every Rec conceivable I had hope for you I had hope Andrew we have ranked Choice voting

Tonyin Alaska and um I voted for Chase Oliver first and then Trump second so he gets a half a vote from me yeah but he could have got the full vote but I need to I needed to represent

Tonya third party because it's important to vote for third parties so that they become contenders um no onea are you're not voting no why not there's no point

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TTS/DonationsI'm not going to answer that question okay you I live in Belgium oh she's by the way can I just say real quick Matt donated $30 why do you deserve to

Andrew Wilsonvote the suffrage movement go ahead Andrew you're about to say yeah I was going to say the third party position that you have is actually really silly here it's actually impossible to ever

Tonyhave more than two parties who are established it's it's actually impossible you're never going to have why is it impossible if you vote for them then they're electable the the argument that I often hear is that part

TTS/Donationsis donated $30 it seems Andrew is conflating obligation and necessity a bit in this line of questioning well we never got through the line of questioning I was going to point out a

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TTS/Donationsyou cheating on it you fat pig just kidding Andrew needs more coffee I can see his cup getting empty by the second

TTS/Donationsyeah good point woman rings darel Frank Castle 512 donated $30 if she's in the hospital and can still talk then she can

TTS/Donationssck dck Andrew I'm going to lose to my wife tonight we had a bet chair 3 was going to rage quit by now you need to go

TTS/Donationsharder Johnny spiral donated $30 why bother being in an open relationship if you're not even going to [ __ ] other people sounds to me like YF convinced

TTS/Donationsyou to stick around until he finds someone better this makes you happy yes at donated $29.99 to the old lady in the beanie are

TTS/Donationsyou wearing a hat on top of your hair hat yes I don't know what that [Laughter] means uh Dylan Joe donated

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TTS/Donations$30 Andrew and Brian would you allow your women to wear a bikini or would you put your foot down that's an interesting one Andrew you first uh no I would prefer a one

Alexpiece why wait why the laugh it's just like okay like all right goes the didn't even say anything you just said okay like nothing to

Andrew Wilsonsay well I mean um while I know that it seems like it's an unreasonable standard to allow your significant other to go out and get Googled in her bra panties I prefer not to do

Brian Atlasthat respect brother I you know what I'm more of a burkini guy like I would like I'll take it to the extreme like it's not even a one piece Andrew like you're on some simp [ __ ] dude like she's

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Andrew Wilsonwalk around all the time with their shirts off I find that to be highly disrespectful I've always saw that my dad told me when I was a little kid um regardless of the shape that you're in don't walk around with your shirt off

Andrew Wilsonthat's what trashy people do and generally I have found now this is not always the case but I have generally found that men who walk around with their shirt off usually are trashy people it's just

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TTS/Donationsthese come through Smithers 25 donated $30 what can a man do in a small Midwestern town to get the attention of

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TTS/Donationswhy we have the perfect one for you babe $9.99 if you move to a country try to learn their language I don't have a problem with passport Bros because I'm

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TTS/Donationssent if you move to a country try to learn their language I don't have a problem with passport Bros because I'm tired of giving 110% just to try to live

TTS/Donationsup to unrealistic standards I voted today Trump the legendary trash Panda donated $30 I am the legendary trash Panda I

TTS/Donationswill never stop cuming chair 3 listen BBG join discord.gg whatever find me just ask for me I will come I will make you a perfect Trad wife

TTS/Donationswith citizenship oh these Naes donated $30 just because most women have sex out of wedlock are you doing that no because

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TTS/Donationspresident is ridiculous because no third party can control the Congress and Senate so a thirdparty president will not be effective and a waste of time actually have a better argument than

TTS/Donationsthat K bear donated $3.33 chair one what dayak is up with your roots those roots are a cry for

Brian Atlashelp louder than any therapy session you could book [ __ ] you kitten bear what a dumbass username oh literally damn okay uh wait okay really quick Cena you said

Brian Atlasyou're going to finish that pizza in three bites go quick do it in three bites wait you're hiding behind the microphone you got

Alexoh oh one one bite you got that by everybody knows the

Alexrules what the [ __ ] wow that that was okay she did it for free for free for free hot good job that

Tonywas that was very good you okay getting a little she needs some milk could I speak to Andrew's last

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TTS/Donationsmarriage also would cancer have to consideration the weakened body and weak muscles and sensitive nerves terminal uncore L donated

TTS/Donations$33 chair one 304 chair 2 Asian 304 chair three Dum

TTS/Donations304 chair 4 how many cats do you have chair five just dumb chair six racist 304 chair 7 chill chair Belgian

TTS/Donations304 you should have all been swallowed damn what the [ __ ] Dariel Frank Castle 512 donated $30 CH two should definitely

TTS/Donationsstick to of she couldn't answer basic questions Andrew asked her plus who would hire a woman to do a man's job

TTS/Donationsjust get back in the kitchen trumpets okay Dylan Joe donated $29.99 can we get a Halloween ear stream

TTS/Donationsit' be interesting to see the degeneracy cranked up to 11 girl in red seems like quite a mean-spirited B uh yeah probably know Halloween IRL

Brian Atlasstream and even in Santa Barbara like all the Halloween stuff is like this past weekend the weekend before it's kind of weird how they they'll do the Halloween stuff like the week prior but yeah unfortunately unfortunately no the

Brian AtlasIRL stuff is on hold for the time being but um if there's any other 30s that come through for the next minute or two I'll kind of like allow the leeway we're

Brian Atlasback up to or well I the TTS is 100 down from 200 so if you guys want that's the new threshold

Andrew WilsonTTS is 100 um did you can I uh can I quickly address the voting thing real quick with um with chair chair 4 I'm really sorry I don't usually say chair 4 or lady in red like that I wasn't here

Andrew Wilsonat the beginning of the show so I wasn't able to write your names down so please forgive me for that um but so so chair for my argument to you for why a third party is not ever going to be viable has

Andrew Wilsonnothing to do maybe with other arguments you've heard uh voting is a collective power and since voting is a collective power you're always going to end up with two parties because you have to inside

Andrew Wilsonof a democracy collectivize in order to move an issue so a single person inside of a democracy has no power they only have power through Collective ation so you'll always see two parties no matter

Andrew Wilsonwhat because that is how you will be able to have the broadest appeal to power is through that sort of collectivization that's why everything is polarized and it doesn't matter what democratic Nation you go to it's always going to be the

Tonysame the polarization is actually exactly what I find so disagreeable between the two- party system um and when when you think of when you think of

TonyElections on a more local level then um independent libertarian green parties have a more um have a better chance of getting a seat and we see this in Alaska

Tonyfor example um Alaska has the highest independent voter turnout in the country and it was actually one of the compelling reasons that I moved there from Wisconsin because Wisconsin being a

Andrew Wilsonuh a very significant swing state but that doesn't speak to the argument so the the argument here specifically is in a national level for politics you will never be able to see anything but a

Andrew Wilsontwo-party system because individual people have no power people only have power as a collective so the second you see one party right exercise power meaning they have X

Andrew Wilsonamount of people who have moved in collectively to exercise this power there will always be an offset party who then equally must collectivize to X extent in order to offset that power you

Andrew Wilsoncan never have a third party or a fourth party or a fifth party because otherwise you can never move the issue forward so it'll always be collectivization between Duality it'll never be uh Trifecta it'll

Tonyjust it'll never it'll never happen that's something I would need to think more about I I also appreciated the comment that was talking about the the Senate rep and Congress representation

Tonystill being two but even if there were a viable thirdparty candidate as the leader it would still be a two-party system getting behind it but then if that third party person was proposing

TTS/Donationsideas then the two-party system has to to has to weigh weigh that out and decide which way to go with

TTS/Donationsthat donated $33 I do have to move too not the first time shoving it in on camera huh I only wanted to point out that um aot that every presidential

TTS/Donationselection has been decided before Alaska votes are counted these NES donated $30 the I've dated an Asian girl before that was obsessed with getting a white nose

TTS/Donationshating her beautiful flat Asian nose look up emilyn win no women should end up like her because they hate

Brian Atlasthems um is okay she unfortunately was at the not at the table I think that was

Brian Atlasdirected it uh Tiffany there but uh huh oh she died this uh this woman from

Leahthe plastic surgery or something H okay what no no no nothing nothing I'm fixing the microphone so you will not be mad

Brian Atlasyep good submissive yeah patriarchy wins again all right let me get through the notes Here guys so uh Alexandra you said you have a crazy dating story you moved to

AlexOklahoma for your ex who was cheating on you the whole time with a person who looked exactly like you yes like could be your twin yes so well there's a little bit more to the

Alexstory so um yeah did move to Oklahoma um I did find out he was cheating on me with somebody who looked exactly like me um on top of that my ex was like you know you really should cut

Alexyour hair into a bob like you would look so good with a Bob and I was like you know what okay like maybe I would look good with Bob I cut my hair into a bob then I find out that the girl he was cheating on with on me with looked

Alexexactly like me with a blonde bob oh [ __ ] okay we break up whatever like that was strange but you know maybe a coincidence maybe he just likes blondes

Alexor I don't know weird we break up um he he was an athlete so uh his teammates after we broke up were trying to talk to

Alexme and stuff and then my ex got with another a third triplet who looked exactly like us with a blonde bob and

Alexwas posting pictures of her on his close friends for his teammates um to pretending that it was me um so they

Alexwould assume that we were back together but it was actually just a third doppelganger and the most ironic part of

Alexthe story is that his mom hated me like hated me so I just love the fact that the girl he chose to be with next looked exactly like my twin I didn't even have

Alexto do the karma she did it for me so that's my crazy dating story my ex totally has a very very extremely specific type I don't know are we

Alexallowed to show pictures of other people on this no not really well they did look exactly like me hence why I put my extensions back in because I don't want to be a triplet

Brian Atlasanymore oh um yeah that's uh that was a cool uh story

Brian Atlasum oh uh yeah yeah my bad uh and then you also you wanted speak on motherson Dynamics in a relationship and how moms can be insane yeah um I just think like I mean I feel like this is not even that crazy

Alexcompared to some of the other things we've talked about today but um yeah I think that you know moms a lot of times when there's like a lack of a a father

Alexin the home that moms like can gravitate towards their sons and then kind of develop this like relationship that's not a mother son relationship it's more like a

Alexan actual relationship um and yeah I don't know if anybody else has experienced something like that before but it's just like I think that was also part of the crazy

Alexdating story is that this this insanely close relationship between his son and his mother to the point where it almost gives like incestual I don't know it's just weird like

AlexI um like I feel like as a girlfriend it's uncomfortable for the the mom to be like holding hands with her son and like

AlexI don't it's just like too much like I feel like these type of Dynamics like are not discussed enough and like it's just it's weird and that's my take on mother son

Alexrelationships he was holding hands with his mom in front of me yeah not holding my hand making me walk behind them how old was he 24 yeah that's [ __ ] up weird

Andrew Wilsonwell sometimes you need help crossing the street you know when your mom can help was he white you know how it was it a white guy no it wasn't a white guy what but I don't think that's really relevant I'm just I'm just curious no he

Alexwas black but um I don't think that that's really relevant wait why are you all nodding your

Alexlike but um I feel like wouldn't you expect it more of a white guy though you know what I mean I don't know I think like the main I think I don't think it's

Alexreally a racial thing necessarily I think it's just like the common denominator though between like men who do this is always like the lack of a father figure in the home growing up so

Brian Atlasthey they get this like kind of codependent relationship yeah yeah has anybody else at the table uh experienced that no but I've seen it I've seen like pictures I don't know if

Elizabethyou saw that picture that went roll of the mom like jumping into to her High School son he was like picking her up or like the moms who Jake donated $100

TTS/Donationsa chair one no need to have the pattern on your hand no man will ever notice it when it's being

Alexused I don't get it you don't have to get it wait oh oh you're like okay is thater this one yo Jake thank you very

Brian Atlasmuch I have two more coming through uh there was one other that kind of slipped by I'll let that one come through but guys we did bump it to donated $30 I've dated an Asian girl before that was

TTS/Donationsobsessed with getting a white nose hating her beautiful flat Asian nose look up emilyn win no women should end up like her because they hate thems I looked her up apparently she died

TTS/Donationsbecause donated $30 plastic surgery for the life of me I can't understand these modern-day women's resistance to modest attire my film made my wife quit being

Brian Atlasan eagle cheerleader when they switched their uniforms to show more skin mm word uh okay uh thank you Lucas did

Brian Atlasyou have a quick response to the plastic surgery thing the nose one I don't think I want to be white just because I want to get a nose job I just want to prety your nose okay all right and then going over to Megan here with some of your pre-show

Megannotes you said uh why don't you tell us the crazy story about the setting the car on fire thing oh tell us about that okay um so one

Megantime I met this guy at a club and like we I just met and like he was trying to like hook up and like I don't do that I'm demure I'm classy I don't to hook up with guys I just meet you a [ __ ] liar

Meganyou're [ __ ] liar stop the C that wasn't me that was Andrew who did that I am not capping but any so I hung out with this guy twice and I went hook

Meganup with him so then he blocked my number and had me block for like 2 months and then he like granly unblocked me and like I kind of missed him so we hung out and we're like watching a movie and he

Megangets a call from his neighbor that his ex had his car on fire oh wow so he ran out and his car was in flames and yeah that could have been my car so luckily I

Megandidn't drive girl I got used at I know I thought you set the car on fire too no I would never do something like that I would never

Brian Atlasokay and then you also uh wrote hey wait really quick just on that have any of you ever slashed a guy's tires no done anything to get revenge on

Alexthe X of course yeah go ahead I mean like but I'm not like that crazy but like I did throw like the

Andrew WilsonPlayStation out um all the what you threw out his PlayStation yeah well broke the PlayStation what kind of monster are you

Alexwhat'd you do that for um I he was cheating um what well his PlayStation wasn't cheating maybe he was on that well yeah so that but I

Alexdon't think that that's that crazy I don't know Playstation phone had to go you just what else did you destroy I didn't destroy anything else but the bags were packed up and left out all of his stuff was moved out of our apartment

Andrew Wilsonand put into the hallway yeah that makes sense but like why destroy the stuff though um I that was like my initial reaction

Andrew Wilsonum yeah I don't know I was mad you know what his gamer tag was up to like was he a call of dut was he a Call

Andrew Wilsonof Duty player no what what was he playing um he would play like sports games then it's okay oh man a lot of work that's a lot of work tons of achievements unlocked he just destroyed

Alexit all well I I think the bigger issue was the phone which was that was also that also had to go like petition for men to not have phones a little closer to M I

Meganthink yeah okay and uh I sent poop to a guy's house can't believe you wreck wait what what you

Meganwhat I said it was a combo pack of like gorilla like sheep like cow poop poop and I sent it to his house how did you get Gorilla poop there's a website for it I can send it to you it is that what

Andrew Wilsonwomen do see this is my former self I'm speaking about myself in the people's houses or he deserved how you verify that how do you verify that like it's

Megangorilla I know did he reach out to you after uh yeah he did he said it he he he thought was kind of funny but also

Meganjust like you're crazy and I'm like I guess you deserved it wait can you do that again that laugh

Brian Atlaslater okay uh so okay Megan you said your modern you said modern dating is ratchet for a

Meganclassy girl like me well like you but like me know I just feel like people are like or I just feel like certain guys just like don't understand one good girl

Andrew Wilsonwith a thousand [ __ ] you know what I mean isn't yes it's a Kanye vers Kan a Kanye yeah still stands and I just feel like I I'm going to name I shall name this

Andrew Wilsonargument the appeal to West argument huh go ahead go ahead just go ahead wait wait what I think it was like a all right Andrew do you want to explain it she

Megandoesn't get it Kanye Kanye West you're appealing to Kanye West lyrics for your argument no I'm just saying it's like a good quote I don't know if he originated it I know he said it but it doesn't mean

Meganit came only from him like maybe someone back in the day started it but I just think it's like the whole point is I feel like guys aren't very loyal nowadays and I'm a loyal girl and I just think not being loyal it's kind of

Brian AtlasRatchet but you said you're a classy girl I am a classy girl well I'm going to have the uh the chat make the determination here can you pull up her Instagram

Brian Atlasweit and you know huh okay go ahead all right scroll down scroll down wait what the heck I look

Brian Atlasclassy right yeah hold on slow it down a little bit okay there's some bikini stuff careful Andrew there's bikini pictures we don't want to trigger you scroll down keep

Brian Atlasgoing I mean uh this is cute yeah like a little uh okay it's cute

Meganyeah I think it's good I mean there's you you know okay little surfing thank you I'm yeah

Andrew Wilsonactivities is it so chat classy or not classy classy not classy no boom hello there's the red hair I like the like the little passive aggressive

Andrew Wilsoncomment of uhoh there's going to be bikinis Andrew better better watch out we insist on showing you our ass Andrew every turn and there's the booty pick

Brian Atlasthere there's you in uh uh thigh high I was going through a goth I was going through a phase uh-huh uh-huh okay I think we get the idea yeah

Brian Atlasclass all right I think you're cute class class class um cool story bro I guess okay let's see I got to get through the rest of everybody's notes Here we

Brian Atlashave oh she just went to the bathroom Okay uh why don't we get to Tony then Tony uh you said you've been well we went over this earlier you've been single since age 23 you're now 41 never

Brian Atlasmarried no children you hate online dating it's a nightmare why are we doing this uh funniest stories are bad message exchanges once a guy stiffed me with the bill when he went to the bathroom yeah

Tonywe were having dinner and then I guess he was done so he just yeah he went to the bathroom and he never came back how long did you wait for uh 15 20 did he

Tonytext you like peace out no no did you like order a lot of food or something or no he had like chicken wings and fries and had a Sal yeah oh yeah we we had

Brian Atlasdinner talk about classy and then you said uh why do people move so fast it's gross and this isn't the movies when I say I am dating I want to browse the market but then men think I'm sleeping around and I'm not

Brian Atlasit's all these hoes that give good women a bad name so I don't chat exclusively and it takes time to get to know someone uh and I don't have time to go on walks and drink coffee with one man at a time doesn't mean I'm sleeping around also

Brian AtlasI'm only looking for actual men uh so there's a couple things there um you want to browse the market but then men think you're sleeping around and you're not I'm I guess I was just

Tonythinking of one specific chat exchange where I was chatting with someone and then he was like Hey I thought we were chatting what happened and I was like oh sorry I was just chatting with someone else he's like this isn't going to work out like I don't I I don't do multiple people and I was like sorry I don't chat

Tonyexclusively I'm just what do you mean where are you chatting with them yeah this was at a time when I was trying online dating and I have since given that up but you told him you were chatting with someone else girl I'm doing this all wrong I I came here for

Alexthe lessons lers well you well as as a guy would you be like sorry I can't answer the phone I'm on the phone with my other girl like of course you wouldn't say that well that's not but

Andrew Wilsonnot that's when you say that that sounds like um you know you're you're dating both of them uh and like intimate there's a like intimacy involved there so I think I

Andrew Wilsonthink that you said your point was that you'll date multiple men you're not sleeping with them you're just going on dates right at a at a time I I would

Tonyschedule uh maybe two or three coffee dates in the same week yeah never NE none of those ever got a second date I mean cuz once I would move towards a

Tonysecond or a third date then um then there then you know there's a spark there's a spark if I'm if I'm agreeing to meet with you

Brian Atlasagain okay um you uh and when it the two to three dates a week oh that was that I mean like pretty frequent for a period no I usually um I only last online for

Tonylike two or three weeks at a time like I I only buy a month just to force myself to stick around for a minute usually after like 2 days I'm like M why are you looking at me gross you said one time

Brian Atlasyour friend set you up with her friend he was very obese he was so very obese I'm like whoa well I know what you think of me he had money but that doesn't cancel

Tonyout this was the first message I sent you I was drinking a little bit that night that's okay um yeah uh I had a friend sent me up with someone and so it was a blind date I went on a blind date

Andrew Wilsonand um I felt like I deserve a warning cuz he would need a seat belt extender uhhuh he was a little robust

Tonywas he he was a little robust big back big back big front qu big really money isn't everything

Tonymoney's very insignificant actually all you need is enough compared like to you though like was he

Tonywas significantly bigger I don't need a seat belt extender okay just um I'm I'm just going to circle back to the the first uh barometer that I said all right

Brian Atlasuh okay and then you said here's a hot take with a general degree of Relativity penis size cancels out body count I think I should have said that the other way around body count cancels

Tonyout penis size but what does that so just explain so essentially if you have a really high body count and you've seen and touched

Tonymany of them then your barometer is your your your scale your sample size is wide and deep and if you only had one or two

Tonythen you wouldn't even know the difference you would just have one and enjoy one uh but I I ALS I also qualifi that with cl can you just clarify penis size cancels out body count I should

Tonyhave said it the other way around body count cancels out penis size but it goes I don't even um I don't even understand what you mean in that way so if you if you didn't have such a high body count

Tonythen penis size wouldn't matter so much to you I see okay and and and I also clar or qualified it with a general degree of Relativity I mean if you have a micro and it's your first one that you

Tonyever saw and then you might talk to your friends is this normal how how small how small are they supposed to be I know the smart Out start out small but don't they get bigger how much bigger it's not very it's not getting very much bigger sure

Brian Atlasyeah uh you said that you want to honor and worship a man but you would never bow to a man even if he's your king I'm not a peasant I'm the

Tonyqueen um it was the first time that I ever saw you present the Bowing argument that I that I had big feelings and that's when I messaged you or got on your insta and I was like I I uh it felt

Tonylike the type of ask where you would um so when you suggested it you never had the video before and when you first suggested it because it's not part of our C our American culture the

Tonyimagery that it Drew up for me was like this big Grand bow that was kind of a production um but when I saw your video and I was like oh that it's it's it's quaint it's simple it's an

Tonyacknowledgement and I think I would need a Tit for Tat what do you mean he would have to bow back to you um no but um I think I would enjoy forehead kisses and

Tonyso so you would I would bow to you or bow to a man I wouldn't bow to any man for the record but a man who I really adored I would be willing to bow for him

Tonyto him if I get forehead kisses that could be our trade that's something that would be important to me why does it have to be a trade why do you need me to buy

Andrew Wilsoncuz I want well the way that you frame it sounds transactional like everything you do in a relationship has some type of transactional purpose I don't think that relationships or healthy marriages

Andrew Wilsonoperate off of transaction they operate around um mutual love and adoration so the thing is is uh if a man wants to be

Andrew Wilsonbowed to right and a woman adors him why does there need to be a transaction I don't I don't really understand that part of it it seems to me that it's just just don't want to do it right and so in

Tonythis way since I don't want to do it if you if you meet me in some place doing something that you don't want to do then then it's acceptable well I guess I I wouldn't just start from the assumption

Tonythat you don't want to do it um I would think that you would want to make me feel loved just like I'm trying to make you feel whatever it makes you feel by being bowed

Andrew Wilsonto I don't know what what do you get out of it but this is the thing right is like say this guy makes you feel loved in a thousand different ways right just

Andrew Wilsonnot in that way he's considers this to be a grandio posture from you to uh observe your submissive nature to his authority so that's what he requires of you right why does he need to do

Tonyanything back like what what's even wrong with requiring that to begin with really you know after after I after this topic was presented I started noticing of myself that when I would walk into a

Tonyroom with people that I um want to acknowledge or honor I noticed that like when I come into a room I kind of give a little nod and I

Tonywas like oh I wonder if this is related to what your um expressing or or or asking for is um is that nod is kind of like the beginning of of a bow no no

Brian Atlasthat's the no that's acknowledgement understanding here just before before we get into it so the panel is kind of more privy to what we're talking about go ahead and play the bow

Brian Atlasvideo this is my ex-girlfriend I took this video uh boom huge bow Tod her how to do that um so this is like after a long podcast day like long day of work

Brian Atlasyou know just getting home she's like getting the laundry all done and uh she has the dinner ready um so this is kind of like the ideal

Brian AtlasDynamic for me like she she wasn't perfect of course but you know um so dinner ready like there was the

Brian Atlasbeer she opened the the beer and and play it

Brian Atlasagain uh let it boom huge bow um so that's this is my expectation for a girlfriend I expected honestly on the

Brian Atlasfirst date I need I need the bow on the first date date um why why are you looking at me that

Leahway why do you need the bow on a first your mic down bro just leave that [ __ ] there come on bro I'm changing the positions this is why the mic is Chang me you don't need to explain that just do

Brian Atlasit why do you need the bow well I need you to tilt your mic down a little bit and then I can tell you why why do you need the bow

Leahrespect you do not feel respected without the B this is a huge issue this is a problem how is the huge issue why it's Monumental because this really has to do with the

Leahself-perception of a man why don't you feel respected without the [ __ ] bow what's the wow no I still feel respected I need more respect though why would you

Leahwhat happened what's that why okay why why the presidents do not need the bow from any person that they meet or any any other leaders or the people

Alexthe actually in Japan the hot country of the day um Everybody bows to each other and I kind of love it are you going to you going to hit a bow real quick oh I'm I'm literally like that girl I swear to

Brian AtlasGod okay let's see it right now you want me to bow for me okay you want to stand up stand up yeah let's see it wait wait who okay go go we got to do it on camera wait they can't even see

Brian Atlasyou here go over there go go go behind the chair go behind the chair go kind of like uh wait this way a little bit no back that

Brian Atlasway a little more a little more the microphone is a little back that way you keep getting bro by the way it looks like the microphone's your penis just

Brian Atlasright now I was looking out for you bro it looks F surprise that was good that was good well

Brian Atlasdone um so yeah that's my requirement I'm very low maintenance as you can tell I wonder why Dam why is it so hard for

Leahyou to just scoot your chair into the table like I don't get it bro can you just scoot your [ __ ] into the table no bro I can't cuz her knees are here and I don't have enough space for my knees all

Tonyright well [ __ ] the table then [ __ ] the table [ __ ] the whole pod no shitty small space um yeah I've I've softened to the bow since I first wrote your message I wrote I wrote you a message the first

Brian Atlashere going around the table would you bow for your man yes yes yeah for the right man no no oh my God after he bows

Alexfor me all right into the mic please yes yeah wait everybody said Yes except I'm going to start doing that actually

Brian Atlasmaybe you just put us on game look look the the feminist mind virus wants to tell you you shouldn't do this but like if your goal is to actually secure the

Alexman I want my man to be happy he like like it and I clean dinner will be ready I'm I'm literally I I think that girl is great like honestly all these women you guys are like

Brian Atlascomplaining not you guys necessarily but a lot of women are complaining oh it's so hard out there dating I can't find a relationship it's like why not try certain things to make yourself more

Brian Atlasappealing set yourself apart first time you hit the bow ladies I'm just saying just try it even try if you got a boyfriend just do it to a boyfriend uh so I have a a question on it I I'm

Andrew Wilsonwondering I knew a guy he I was talking well it it a person I was recently talking to mhm oh he said

Brian Atlasoh sorry go ahead go ahead go ahead wait did you freeze everything okay well uh I just there I have the moderation delay so actually okay

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TTS/Donationstheir dialed killing personalities weight in gold yo walking Rosco uh sorry to interrupt you there Andrew I'll just let this other one for champ pop interrupt away I'll let this

TTS/Donationsone come in we had a delay on and I didn't catch it just I'll just get me the I'll open it perceptions music donated

TTS/Donations$999.99 than Brian your videos broke people out of the normal life and opened their minds black girl you're cute but you need to marry a white boy from the

Andrew Wilsonthat would be culturally a Korean girl heed it wait what the [ __ ] anyway this guy I was talking to he actually he actually

Andrew Wilsonsaid something about this bow thing that I thought was pretty interesting I'll get the panels take on it so I understand there's a lot of women who would be uncomfortable with the bow but

Andrew Wilsonhe said listen um this girl that he was with she likes to get choked she likes it that's her big thing and he's super uncomfortable with it he does not like

Andrew Wilsonit uh but he does it for her anyway because she likes it even though it makes him uncomfortable she he still does it because she likes it if that's

Andrew Wilsonthe case right I don't think anybody would object to that that uh that he does this because she enjoys it one new sh if we're comparing this to the idea of

Andrew Wilsonthe bow um isn't this basically the same thing like okay you're uncomfortable with it but so what you do it for him anyway cuz he likes it isn't that basically the same thing in

TonyReverse I don't know I feel like I want to make my man feel like a king like I don't know if that's what it takes then that's what it takes I actually looked it up after I um like a day after I sent

Tonythat that message asking do Queens bow to their kings and um were different schools yeah there were different schools of thoughts they do and I was

Andrew Wilsonsurprised to learn that yes they not only do they but it was a requirement in most courts that they did upon acknowledgement bow and many cases kneel

Andrew Wilsonbefore their King before they were even allowed to take the throne so for the day for the business of the court so uh it you I mean that's what Thrones were it was to oversee the business of the

Andrew Wilsoncourt but any in any case uh to my question if she likes to in this case if she likes to get choked and he's doing that for her and he doesn't like it

Andrew Wilsonmakes him uncomfortable but she likes it right uh unless you see a problem with that I don't see how this wouldn't just be the same thing in Reverse yeah that's actually a fair analogy and it makes

Tonymore sense to compare those things than the Tit for Tat that I proposed because it would it um instead of a tip for Tat or a trade rather it's hey this is how I

Tonywant to be loved and then can you just that down and remember it yeah see that makes more sense God do you have a katana bro I they

Brian Atlasdon't sell the same Champagne Ball it's one of these not there I don't get to twist it six times I don't get to Twisted six it's one of these [ __ ]

Andrew Wilsonweird ass uh it's not a noral bro it's see anything in either of these chats but the big capital L's just nothing but L's for Brian bro I've been killing it

Brian Atlaswith the champagne bottles and like it's one of these [ __ ] new bottles that doesn't have the little twist six times and then it just the L it won't [ __ ] open it's an L do you still have the

Brian Atlascage for there wasn't even a cage it's one of these California oh my God Bro [ __ ] this brand bro I'm just going to put this BL put yo [ __ ] this [ __ ] yes brand bro on

Brian Atlastop of it it says it is like the cheapest and you can buy hey don't say that this is primo [ __ ] this is PR Bro Look it's got

Andrew Wilsonthis dumbass [ __ ] cap it doesn't even [ __ ] this a Twist does it have a broke do you have to break a seal you have to break the seal yeah look it doesn't know hand it to the women so

Brian Atlasthey can open the bottle yeah please good for you I twisted it bro I [ __ ] twisted it dude [ __ ] this bro Rosco [ __ ] you no I'm just kidding R thank for the champ bro Rosco I'm going to have to get

Tonya different pain you would want a woman to be able to open that and not you right all right here Ana sit down and you try oh God don't forget to Bow don't let

Andrew WilsonTony I loosened it is he still is he back there fighting with it is he fighting with it right now he gave it to Anessa sit down pass the

Brian Atlas[Laughter] B all right go ahead wait you not open one I'm underage okay pass bro watch I loosened that [ __ ] I

Tonyloosened that [ __ ] open the thing bro don't open it seal at the bottom my gosh [Music] oh I love that for

Backgroundyou thank you oh no oh no [Laughter]

Brian Atlasgreat BR great w i see I loosened that [ __ ] for her bro I loosened it okay can we can we

Brian Atlasget some cups or something who wants the champagne I have some wait hold on let me check the the [ __ ] was that what the [ __ ] was that bro like literally wait uh

Brian Atlashold on champagne champagne champagne mhm champagne yes thank you yeah you're 20 one right yeah champagne yes okay all right so

Brian Atlaseverybody besides plates for you yeah let's let's get rid of the plates Ana can grab those all right uh Rosco Rosco thank you thank you very much for the champagne pop look I was doing really

Brian Atlasgood there with the but they got rid of the bottles the other champagne bottles so I had to [Music] buy my syllable I'm hold on what's that

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