She Sent Her Ex Gorilla ?! Body Count RESETS After 7 Years?! Single Since 2007?! | Dating Talk #209

Date: 2024-10-30

Duration: 7h 43m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLeah (Ukraine/DT211)>

TTiffany (DT215)>

MMegan (DT209)>

EElizabeth (DT209)>

SSylvie (DT209)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_02Cena(guest)

SPEAKER_03Silly (Sylvie)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Leah(guest)

SPEAKER_05Tiffany(guest)

SPEAKER_06Megan(guest)

SPEAKER_08TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_12Elizabeth(guest)

SPEAKER_13Tony(guest)

SPEAKER_14Alex(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteCena claims projected income of six figures per month from OnlyFans (started 2 months ago). 'I started two months ago... six figures so that's your projected projected income yeah from the rate that I'm going.'

ControversyLeah accuses TTS donors of toxic masculinity for comments about Cena. Andrew spends several minutes arguing that Leah's generalization about men is actually toxic femininity by her own definition.

QuoteBrian asks Leah: 'You're 21, will you be better looking at 31?' — Leah says yes. Cena says she wants a nose job and will be most attractive at 29, still better-looking than now at 59.

QuoteAlex reveals ex cheated on her with her doppelganger, convinced her to cut hair in a bob, then dated a third lookalike. 'He sent my extensions back in because I don't want to be a triplet anymore.'

QuoteTony says: 'penis size cancels out body count' — then clarifies she meant the reverse. Extended discussion on whether sex acts cancel each other out.

QuoteTony reveals single since 2007: 'You've been single since the Bush Administration. Yes. George Bush. That's true. That's affirmative.' — 17 years single.

ControversyAndrew and Alex heated argument about collective standards for unattractive women. Andrew: 'You're dumb as a box of [blank] rocks' — Alex fires back that if women are dying less in combat roles it means they do the job better.

ControversyAndrew quotes Ephesians 5:22 to argue Tiffany (Christian) should be willing to bow to her husband. Tiffany: 'I'm not your maid, I'm your wife.' Extended theological debate about submission, worship vs respect.

QuoteBrian on first date requirements: woman must do laundry on a washboard, hang clothes on clothesline, churn butter within 3 days, and knit a cardigan. 'She has to be a virgin dwarf under 25 who knows how to knit and churn butter.'

QuoteAlex bows to Brian on camera. Then champagne bottle struggles — Brian cannot open 3 consecutive bottles (15-minute ordeal). Cena opens one easily after Brian fails.

OtherTony (walkoff) announces she has to leave at 12:30am, has been waiting 20 minutes. Brian: 'That's kind of rude but okay.' Tony leaves before the final roast session.

QuoteBrian's hypergamy/makeup speech: women use makeup to inflate dating value, chase men out of their league, end up in situationships, then marry 'suckers' in 30s and divorce within 3 years. 'That's why we have two 10s at the table.'

Topics Discussed

Introductions

All 8 guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian also teases Andrew Wilson joining later.

Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares relationship status, longest relationship, who broke up with whom. Tony reveals she's been single since 2007 (17 years). Leah reveals she dated a woman for 2.5yr. Silly reveals her open relationship. Megan reveals ex died of overdose.

Cena's OnlyFans Career

Extended discussion about Cena (18yo) doing OnlyFans to pay for engineering school and provide for parents. Panel debates ethics, parental approval, Asian family dynamics, income claims (~6 figures/month projected), plans to become influencer. Tony encourages her to stick with engineering. TTS donors weigh in heavily.

Self-Ratings (1-10 Looks)

Panel rates their own looks 1-10. Andrew (calling in) joins and asks probing questions about whether guests can describe an unattractive woman. Debate about delusion vs confidence. Brian shows old Instagram photos. Age advancement AI filter used on Discord. Discussion of whether women will look better in 10/20/30 years.

Dating Stories & Pre-Show Notes

Each guest's notable dating stories/hot takes: Alex moved to Oklahoma for cheating ex (doppelganger story). Tony's obese blind date, bad long-distance year-long phone relationship, 6-kid man. Megan's car fire ex story, sending gorilla poop. Silly's open relationship and GameStop boyfriend. Fish pick debate.

Toxic Masculinity Debate

Leah accuses certain donor comments of toxic masculinity. Andrew rebuts: is her generalization about men toxic femininity? Extended back-and-forth about definitions. Leah clarifies she was addressing specific comments about Cena as a woman doing OnlyFans.

Monogamy & Open Relationships

Silly asks why monogamy is 'the way to go.' Andrew argues open relationships fail 95% of the time. Discussion of Silly's open relationship structure. Andrew explains why monogamy creates societal stability. Silly's previous open relationship ended when boyfriend found another woman.

Cultural Nationalism & Dating Within Culture

Tiffany's hot take: date within your culture and nationality. Andrew frames it as 'cultural nationalism.' Japan example. Debate about whether this is racist. Alex disagrees. Tiffany clarifies: Americans should date Americans (assimilated). Discussion of non-English speakers in America.

Only Men Should Make Family Decisions

Tiffany's hot take: men should make family decisions (for benefit of family not themselves). Andrew debates this, argues man's sacrifice (dying for family) justifies leadership. Debate on man laying down his life vs woman's role. Tony asks about income earners and submission.

Sex as Duty in Marriage

Panel debate: is sex a duty/obligation in marriage? All guests say yes with caveats. Andrew poses: woman on chemotherapy — still obligated? Discussion gets nuanced. Jake donor asks: if wife declines sex and man cheats, is she to blame?

Election / Voting Debate

Panel reveals voting intentions. Tiffany won't vote (no point). Tony voted Chase Oliver first, Trump second (Alaska ranked choice). Silly can't vote (Belgian). Andrew argues third-party voting is futile — two-party system inevitable due to collective power dynamics. Upcoming election co-stream announced (Nov 5 Election Day).

Bowing to Your Man

Brian shows bow video of ex-girlfriend. Panel reacts. Tony has softened since first seeing the bow argument. Most women say they would bow for the right man. Tiffany objects (not a maid). Andrew quotes Ephesians 5:22. Discussion of submission, sacrament, Asian wife bowing culture. Andrew: choking analogy (reciprocal obligations).

Champagne Pop Spectacle

Donor sends champagne. Brian struggles to open multiple champagne bottles for 15 minutes (becomes a running bit). Cena opens one easily. Andrew mocks Brian relentlessly. Eventually a different brand opens. Cheers to donor 'Walking Rosco.'

Women in Military / Male Sacrifice

Andrew's argument: men collectively die for women; women don't die for men collectively. Alex counters with women in military. Elizabeth (Army vet) provides insider perspective on women's combat roles. Andrew argues women are physically incapable of same roles. Jessica Lynch cited as example of why women shouldn't be in combat zones.

Hypergamy & Dating Market

Brian's speech on how makeup artificially inflates women's dating market value, causing them to chase men out of their league. Alex pushes back claiming she makes ~$800k/year (disputed by Andrew and Brian given 20K Instagram followers). Body count discussion as context.

Makeup Debate

Andrew and Brian debate whether makeup is deceptive. Panel watches Asian transformation video. Makeup wipes challenge — no one takes off their makeup on camera. Leah admits she wore makeup to fit in with other women at the show. Discussion of deception threshold, men being disadvantaged (can't wear makeup). Brian argues makeup inflates women's dating market value.

Body Count & Alpha Widow Discussion

Panel gives body counts. Brian discusses alpha widow concept applying to men sexually. Discussion of whether virginity is better for a man. Cena and Tony give their body counts.

Andrew Wilson's Outro

Andrew leaves the show (~7:18). Brian announces Andrew will be on Sunday show and Election Day co-stream. Panel thanks Andrew.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasnecessarily reflect the views of the whatever Channel with that said and without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location

Alexand occupation go ahead hi um my name is Alex I'm 25 I'm originally from New York um but I live in LA now and my

Alexoccupation is a model all right uh what kind of modeling um kind of anything and everything um I do music videos I've

Alexdone Runway I've done Ecom mhm whatever comes my way okay and uh any school yeah um I went to college at GW in Washington

Brian AtlasDC okay uh what did you study a little closer to the mic if you can I studied political science political science okay so you got your Bachelor yeah my

Cenaundergrad um Bachelor yes all right cool what about you hi my name is Cena I'm 18 years old I'm currently in school for

Cenaengineering and my occupation I do o okay and where are you from Toronto Canada okay you speak French maybe a

Brian Atlaslittle okay and uh you're what kind of engineering do you want to do or mechanical mechanical engineering okay

Brian Atlasgot it uh and then what do you do on o o stuff o stuff well I mean people do all kinds of different uh things on

Brian Atlasthere so well I guess you have to check it out to find out right okay uh we do have I think maybe one of your Tik talks

Leahto react to a little bit later so okay uh what about you hi my name is Leah I'm 21 I was born in K of Ukraine and moved

Leahto LA four years ago my occupation I'm getting my masters in theater next semester so I'm an actress okay uh and uh have you been in

Brian Atlasany uh TV shows or films or commercials anything like that most of the projects that I was a part of was about theater theater project what Productions like a couple Productions you've done the most

Leahrecent production was related to my university directly it's Seas Sun California State University Northridge it was an amazing play called guarded um

Leahwritten by Bon B Alvarez this play demonstrated the biases of the Hollywood Life just in

Brian Atlasshort okay and what's your favorite play oh um or top three if it's hard to

Brian Atlasprobably my wait can I guess rent why I don't know I just get that rent rent I did not know this place how do you not you're a theater kid and you

Leahdon't know rent okay I have no idea maybe it's before your time um sorry okay all right well what are your top three my top three would be okay the

Leahfirst one is called um the mocking bird for alenka it's a Ukrainian play that um

Leahthat the shows the life of the survived people during the World War II and uh the second one I would say that I love the productions for rhinoceros it's

Leaha it's an absur play that is really hard to work on but just very complex worth it to try and then third the third

Leahone maybe it will be allergies for Angels punks and R who the [ __ ] is that guy sorry I don't know any of those plays but they sound they sound great I

Brian Atlasmean you're not the theater matri okay I'm not I'm not but uh um and are you the plays you do are they musicals are you a singer what I'm not a good singer

Brian AtlasI make music and I'm not a good singer no okay yeah ridiculous so I definitely do not specialize in musicals okay can I have you just uh tilt your mic down just a little bit

Tonyand maybe scoot into the scoot it like tilt it down and tilt it down yeah and then scoot into the table what about you hi I'm Tony Ray I'm 41 I'm from Alaska and I'm a speech

Brian Atlastherapist all right uh how long uh speech language speech language pathologist how long You' been doing that for 11 years 11 years okay

Brian Atlasvery cool uh can you tell me if you detect any uh how do I put this irregularities in my my speaking or Cadence and you can criticize it or

Tiffanyfeedback nothing yet nothing yet okay nothing yet goody what about you hi I'm Tiffany I'm 19 years old I'm originally

Tiffanyfrom Irvine and I'm a student at UCSB majoring in econ and polyi all right and it's your uh sophomore year right yes

Meganall right welcome back what about you hi I'm Megan I'm 25 and I live in LA and I edit websites and I live stream on bego

Meganand I started my own podcast so yeah all right uh any school yeah I went to ocidental what did you study media production okay you got your bachelor's

Elizabethmhm all right cool what about you I'm Elizabeth I am a 35 and I'm an associate marriage and family therapist in

Elizabethaddition to a Survivor leader and human trafficking Advocate and consultant so you advocate for human trafficking victims of human traffing oh [ __ ] okay I

Silly (Sylvie)antium trafficking in favor like you're advocating for it no okay just checking what about you hi my name is Silly I'm 30 years old and I'm from Belgium um and

Brian AtlasI'm a parking inspector all right any school yeah High School just High School okay you didn't go to college or anything and you're a parking inspector yes how long you been doing that for

Brian Atlashalf a year half a year what were you doing before that um I sold games at like some kind of GameStop thing okay like a okay for seven years for seven

Silly (Sylvie)years okay so retail basically yes okay uh and your parking inspection job is it through the police like are you or is it it's through the city through the city

Silly (Sylvie)yeah so I have to check if um par um if parked cars uh have paid for their parking spot if they didn't I have to find them wait and you're uh from

Brian AtlasBelgium yes but the Dutch speaking part of it yes yeah because you don't sound you don't have like a frenches accent oh

Brian Atlasthanks you're the first one who says that and what part of Belgium um yeah F Flemish part so Flemish part okay is

Brian Atlasthere a city or you don't if it's it's close to Brussels close to Brussels you're in the Brussels metro area just next to

Brian Atlasokay cool uh and do you uh have you ever gone to any altercations while giving out a parking ticket cuz a lot of people don't like parking enforcement you are the enemy of a lot of people yes I am

Brian Atlasthe enemy okay yeah um I get GS to a lot yeah all right cool and uh by the way guys uh Andrew I know it's in the title Andrew uh is going to be joining us but

Brian Atlashe's going to be calling in a little bit later there's some uh kind of family stuff going going on with him but he will be calling in a little bit later uh so he'll be uh here soon we're going to go around the table actually really

Brian Atlasquick I had a couple questions for you I noticed you had an interesting tattoo on your Instagram but it's not visible right like can if can we see it or it's still visible if I move my hair a little actually uh Daman why don't you just

Brian Atlaspull up CU we just have your Instagram we'll just pull up the photo let's go it's a little easier and I I want the story behind the cuz it's an interesting tattoo uh yeah go

Brian Atlasahead so it's I'm winning and is that like a Japanese what is that the um it's actually a very special

Leahdrawing that my tattoo artist created for me so it was not pre-drawn I showed him the idea and that image I don't not know if

Leahit's going to sound funny a little but it it came to me in the dream actually and one day I woke up with an idea that I would love to have this kind of a

Leahguardian that will be right in the back of my head and will see all the [ __ ] that is happening behind my back so it will protect me do you believe in god um

LeahI'm agnostic do you understand what it is um agnostic basically um states that they

Leahdid not know and they did not have a very specific image for the God but at the same time they can feel or sense that there's something they just did not believe in any of the

Tonyportraits that are already created but by some religions does anybody here how the tattoo they regret I have a quick question I was I was wondering did you shave your head have to shave your head

Tonyto get that tattoo did you have to shave it big bald yeah yeah I was in Berlin and I shaved my head and the next day I got the tattoo that's amazing I shaved my head too yeah that's awesome are you guys

Brian Atlasbonding over your shaving your heads have you ever shars episodes well I I uh I used to have dreadlocks and so I I had shaved my head

Tonyoh yeah have that in comma with you and then I shaved my head and have that in comma with you I have a tattoo I regret you have a tattoo I regret what is it is it your Kanye tatto yeah it's the

Brian Atlasballerina from Runaway well don't you have like multiple Kanye West inspired tattoos I have three so you only regret one yeah the other two you I like them

Tiffanyyou like those why do you regret that one cuz it's on my waist and it's like too it's like too much it's too big too big yeah it's just the size of it yeah

Brian Atlasit's not the design no just and the location yeah okay okay cool all right so we're going to go around the table what is everybody's current relationship status

Alexif you're single single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead um I'm currently single

Alexum and I have currently been single for a year since my last relationship actually this month so um and it's been

Alexthe best year ever so no regrets there um and my longest relationship was 4 years I've had two relationships that were almost that length my only two ever

Alexum and I'm proud of that I think for your relationships you learn a lot about yourself you learn oh don't do that and uh so who broke up with who I I'm always

Alexthe one who dumps them always always you've never been dumped 100% always the dumper how many dumps have you done that

Brian Atlassounds two and I'm two for two that sounded kind of uh PA wow okay uh what about you what was the question again oh uh

Brian Atlasrelationship status if you're single how long have you been single longest relationship so I've been single for a year my longest was a year and a

Tiffanyhalf okay uh what about that guy that was with you is that

Tiffanynot what like who was you what what what what no there was a guy standing with her while she was waiting

Cenaso I was just wondering who that is your brother at a manager esort no no escort no not like male escort like you

Brian Atlasknow like I don't know um okay uh you said your longest relationship was 1.5 years yes okay

Brian Atlasand uh who broke up with who I broke up with him why complicated

Cenauhhuh I guess we were both young and immature yeah so I guess I just took the

Brian Atlasleap and decid to do it okay and uh wait and you're 18 how long uh when did you start your only fans 18 right like the

Brian Atlasday after your birthday or no two months ago September okay oh so you just turned 18 no oh you you started your only fans

Brian Atlas2 months ago yes okay all right relationship status single okay how long you been how long you've

Brian Atlasbeen single for for about 2 years all right longest relationship 2 and a half years who broke up with who that person

Brian Atlasbroke up with me okay was that the one that ended two years ago mhm okay uh man or woman woman okay okay and you're uh

Brian Atlasbisexual correct straight oh yeah but you dated a woman for 2 and a half years yeah that's the problem explain that

Leahone long story short that woman broke up with me because she already sense that I did not love her anymore and I was not conscious about my own personality

Leahenough to realize it on time that I'm not into women and that I cannot commit to a woman like that so she was already felt very unhappy and unfulfilled while I thought that is just a complicated

Leahperiod of the relationship so I was incredibly grateful when she did it for me and for both of us you're grateful she done to you yeah I'm so happy that she did

Brian Atlasbecause that's when my best life started I'm so sorry I'm not made for a woman that's it okay so you were it was like an experimental

Leahphase or something it was actually the most successful a relationship I ever had I have never feel felt that loved that secure that respected but again I

Leahneed a man I see myself only with a man so at some point I was not feeling comfortable or happy in the relationship as well okay uh but you have dated men

Leahbefore then yeah uh you said you've been single there for 2 years I mean have you dated in this time period I did not have a partner but I did date dating in

Leahgeneral seeing new people going on a DAT yeah are you is there currently a guy in the picture [Laughter]

Leahno no no guy no not even texting well many many are texting but it's such a regular texting it's not like sneaky link no it's like oh hey

Leahwould you like to go to the park one day I'm like oh I'm busy okay that's it huh yeah not happening unfortunately when's the last time you went on the

Leahdate maybe two weeks ago two weeks ago okay first date yeah and last date first date last date yeah you didn't like him

Leahno why is that H he ended up being bisexual and uh I knew you were going to say he was gay or by or whatever sorry I do not know if

Leahthat's allowed but yeah that's that's the problem number one yeah I did not I would not be able the theater guy the what theater theater the no no it's just

Leahthe it was not the energy that I'm striving for would you date a bu guy then no no why not usually when I deal with

Leahthe by guys they they literally did not have the energy I need I I'm not interested in sharing my men with with the other men I'm not interested in having this

Leahrisk into the relationship especially when that's a bottom I'm so sorry that that guy was a bottom too what he's a bottom yeah how did you

Brian Atlasknow you asked him he shared he told you yeah yeah wait just really quick to the whole panel just show of hands would you

Brian Atlasdate a bisexual man any nobody would you did a bisexual girl uh uh maybe

Brian Atlasyeah I'd prefer to date a straight girl though but yeah I suppose I would date a by

Brian Atlasgirl what why are you looking at me Tiffany what the [ __ ] um uh so wait okay what's the in the two years you've been single what's the longest you've like

Leahseen a guy four months four months but not boyfriend girlfriend it was like a casual hookup no it was it was getting

Leahto the point of relationship but thankfully never happened also by no just just a dumbass

Tonyjust all right what about you um I'm single okay my longest relationship was 2 and 1/2 years but he was my best friend for like 2 and a half years before that so we were in relationship

Brian Atlaswith each other for like 5 years but we were only an item for two and a half years were you guys having carnal knowledge yes we lived together no I mean for the previous two and a half

Tonyyears just friends yeah strictly friends and roommates but strictly friends until it changed yeah you guys weren't together for 5 years no no I said we were together for two and a half years no but then you said five did I not no

Tonyhe was my best friend for 2 and a half years and then he was my boyfriend for 2 and a half years did she not say five we were I heard five we were in I heard of five yeah we were in relationship for a

Tonytotal of five years including 2 and A2 years as my best friend and 2 and A2 years as my boyfriend and maybe I'm just being pedantic but I I don't know if I would consider you guys in a

Brian Atlasrelationship for five years to you had a friendship for two and a half years and then you were in a relationship for two and a half years I'm being a bit nitpicky on that but uh so that's your

Tonylongest relationship uh and you've been single for how long that was 2007 so 17 years you've been single for I have not called anybody a boyfriend for

Brian Atlas17 years or committed to anything uh so you've been single since the Bush Administration yes George Bush that's true that's that's affir that um you've

Brian Atlasbeen celibate for 17 years I did not say that oh okay all right just you know just claric clarify wait so okay your 2.5 year relationship was which was your

Brian Atlaslongest that ended in 2007 so you would have been uh 20 early 20s 24 okay 23 something like that all right

Tonyand huh what uh since then what's the longest period of time you've been involved with a man or there was a man that I talked to on the phone we had a

Tonylong distance I'm going to say relationship but I want to be careful the way I use that word with you Brian yeah I'm very triggered by triggered we um

Tonyum he it was a longdistance thing we talked on the phone a lot and then um I went to go visit him and I was like I don't actually like spending time with you this was a big waste of time that

Brian Atlaswas about a year but you only saw him in person once mhm and you guys carried on a long distance like you met online um no he was the brother of a friend of

Tonymine and um we talked on the phone at FaceTime for a year mhm but you only met in person once for a week and then it

Brian Atlasended yes I ended so there was like a a year buildup of like you started long distance damn that's

Tonyokay that's uh I really I really it's important to me to get to know somebody for a year sorry did I say that out loud my bad well there was nothing that we can

Tonydo across the country um to uh be physically closer and like get to know each other that way but when we when we were physically closer just proximally

Tonythen I was like you know what I actually don't like spending time with you like the way I thought I might there there's I I learned a lot I don't want to be in a long-distance relationship I don't feel what was the issue when you guys met in

Tonyperson I don't want to ne se bad bad sex it was a lot of other things penis too big um I don't eat ramen noodles for lunch to small he didn't uh tip the

Tonywaitress that's problem wait sorry what one um can't be with someone who doesn't tip the waitress that's embarrassing that and being embarrassed a bad job it was

Tonypretty consistent but um yeah I think being embarrassed is one of the worst feelings in the world and I couldn't possibly wait feel embarrassed what were you embarrassed about about tipping the waitress poorly the The Tipping thing

Tonyokay yeah I'd have to like go back to the restaurant and buy some syrup and add 10 bucks and be like give that did you pay for the date uh we were you guys what a great question he did a couple times yeah yeah maybe that's the way I

Tonycould have recovered I should have gone Dutch and then I could have made a good tip yeah you could have contributed to the oh and and I did like I would go back and I would buy buy a souvenir from the restaurant and then I'd add a tip to the little item that I bought so that I

Tonycould make sure that she's taken care of okay uh and then did you guys have carinal knowledge that's such a funny phraseology yes during that week yes was it it wasn't good

Brian AtlasI cannot confirm or deny your question Brian well I mean it would give us good insight into perhaps the cause of this you know you guys spoke it wasn't

Brian Atlashypnotizing not not hypnotizing okay all right um so didn't tip sex was mediocre is that pretty much the base

Tonythe coral I guess there's just a there's just a big difference between the way that you spend time with someone in person and then the story that you make up in your mind about somebody when you're just on the phone or just messaging people it's the same way that I feel like when you're messaging

Tonysomeone online and you're trying to get to know them and you think that you've gotten to know them well enough that you agree to like have a date and then you have a date and you're like oh my God I just wasted weeks messaging this person

Tonyand I can tell and weeks you wasted a year but go ahead on the phone and with FaceTime video I I thought I thought that that was how often you guys talk

Tonyum several times a week three four times a week a couple hours at least an hour at least an hour yeah somebody do math on that with the time difference yeah with the time difference it was really inconvenient and I um when we actually

Alexspent time together it just wasn't the magic who flew out to who I flew out to him did he pay for your flight 2 no oh

Brian Atlasyou paid for your own flight yes oh no no have you been flown out before um yes I have

Alexyes I have how many times have you been flown out um a few times not it's not like something I do regularly where too

AlexMiami out the country baby does oh out the country business class only too um where like um I any Middle Eastern

Alexcountries uh yes Saudi one of my exes was Arab so okay yes yeah which country he's from Kuwait so we went all over the

AlexMiddle East together yeah okay yes and you've been flown out to Europe yes I have been flown out to Europe uh but not in like a weird way

Alexlike um in a way of like I was talking to somebody and we decided to go together not in a way of like any type of like transactional uh thing okay sure

Brian Atlashow many times total do you think you've been flown out m probably like a handful like five maybe okay all right cool um

Brian Atlasso single since 2007 yes uh and did you say the longest period of

Brian Atlastime that you've been involved with somebody since then like have you had a one-year thing a six-month thing no just the the phone relationship um otherwise

Tonyno everything Fizzles out pretty quickly why is that why is that that's a great question I'm asking you let's get to the bottom of this is it them is it you once you get to be in your 40s and you're never married and no kids you start to

Brian Atlaslearn that it's you um but uh so what's your uh what's your analysis what's your assessment of yourself then you know I I maybe being a

Tonylittle self-deprecating when I say that um but I I'm I'm looking for um a good match and I'm not I don't want to just settle on like oh okay you

Tonyum it I don't know I want to be in love I want to love somebody more than I've ever loved anybody in my whole life and that takes time and I think that love probably looks and feels a lot different

Tonyin your 40s than it does in your 20s and so that's a really hard um place to get to to to love somebody really hard and to to have a meaningful relationship

Tonywith somebody why aren't you on dating apps shutter I I I've done that I've done that it feels like a reject

TonyClub um what do you what do you mean reject Club people who couldn't find the match in real life so they have to go to the reject Club yeah so you yeah I'm hearing you yeah that's why I got on there and I'm

Tonylike you know what I'm going to I'm going to find I'm going to put I'm going to find the exit I'm not going to do this anymore it's like but aren't they they're kind of in the same boat that you're in yep anyways I in any case I

Tonydon't think if somebody's on a dating app it doesn't mean that they're rejects I know I'm I'm being a little harsh I'm being a little harsh but in any case um so what are you looking for in a

Brian Atlasman um I want somebody who impresses me impress yeah I want to be impressed in what capacity that's going to wear off

Tonybut um you could impress me with anything your your talents your talents um your talents your skills your knowledge maybe you know lots of stuff about lots of things so like high high

Tonyintelligence high IQ yeah you could High Intelligence or maybe um just a a uh someone who knows how to fix things around the house or and these are all options you don't have to be all of

Tonythese things but they got to be one or a few you have to be interesting interesting yeah interesting interesting okay um what so what are the other things provoke an intellectual

Tonyconversation um I want somebody who we can have shared meals together and we enjoy the same kinds of food I want someone who he doesn't have to make as much money as I but I want him to be

Tonyable to afford to go on vacations with me and I mean I can I can kick in and I can help um I I break six figures okay would you like the guy to also make six

Tonyfigures or I mean that would be nice but I'm totally flexible because I I know not I don't want to be too narrow um I'm really open to the person sure um but as far as what they bring to the table I I

Tonydon't want to completely take care of them but you know what if this man can build a house from the bottom up I'll buy that I'll buy that house and you build it honey that would be fine wait you want a

Brian Atlasmen who can build the no on his own no I'm not a complete Absol there's like HVAC there's plumbing and you all of

Brian Atlasit right I'm not if you could find a man who could actually build a house on his own it wouldn't even have to have all

Tonythat I live in Alaska and I'd be happy in a dry cabin um a I uh a cabin maker okay um I'm not hung up on a per let's go

Brian Atlasback really quick to the income 50,000 too

Tonylittle no I think that that would that'd be adequate but just someone who can afford to go on vacation with me and live the lifestyle that I want to live I can take care of my part okay so what is the lifestyle that

Tonyyou want to live I want to go out to the theater enjoy some shows um I want to go to concerts and I want to be in the front row um I'm going on a vacation to Peru right now and I'm going on a 7-Day

TonyYoga Retreat in Machu Pichu and I would love someone who can pay their own way to join me on a trip like that so you'd want them to go 50/50 with you on the vacationing and stuff yeah even if you out earn them by well I mean I can I

Tonycould pay for like the flights but like as far as like when it comes to this vacation for example um I I paid for like the yoga retreat for myself I would want him to pay for you know participating but if he doesn't want to

Tonyparticipate in the yoga retreat then he can go on his on a different we can find a different vacation and I'll go on Yoga Retreat and he can go on a cruise and play poker sure okay you can impress me

Brian Atlaswith how well you play poker you could impress me lots of different ways okay so you want somebody to impress you you want someone to be interesting any any

Brian Atlasother things are there any uh physical traits like height or uh that sort of

Tonything I want someone who can fit in a regular airplane seat belt and who doesn't have to ask for a seat belt extender okay um

Tonyso somewhat you don't want to dat no Beast guy see I want to be careful with that word because it's uh he doesn't have to be perfect the that would that would be my my measurement my my barometer is fit into a don't have to

Tonyask for a seat Bel extender so he could be obese just not that obese right yeah I don't I don't know how to frame it what about height not I'm a short lady I mean I you can get you can I would go

Tonypretty short and I would go go shorter than I someone shorter than you I mean five foot go down to 5 feet but if you're if it's if the man is shorter

Cenathan 5 feet he's going to need a shorter woman wa I have a question wouldn't you want to date someone who's like a provider well yeah that would be great

Tonydo you think you've lowered your standards over the years yes okay quick yes what were what were your standards when you were 20 yeah um at that time I would want somebody who would out earn me but at that time I didn't know what

Cenamy earning potential was going to be wait so what's the difference now like why is it lowered so much is it because of the cuz the pool is a lot more narrow okay yeah I'm just going to

Brian Atlasbe perfectly candid okay um and so in the past year how many First Dates have you gone

Brian Atlason uh one this year um just one yeah okay then any sneaky links sneaky links that's like uh casual flame hookup type

Tonything um no nothing casual but um the last time I kind of matched with somebody was um maybe two or 3 months ago uh someone

Tonythat I've known for a while we linked we linked for like a week um Cardinal

Brian Atlasknowledge affirmative affirmative okay cool all right um how and if they're not impressive or they're not interesting is that a deal breaker see I think that

Tonypeople become interesting once you start to get to know them um almost everybody's in the friend zone right off the bat because I'm just trying to get to know you and um my my interest in you

Tonygrows when I learn more about you and what your skills and talents are and that's when I become attracted to somebody wait and you live in Alaska right yes what's the population of

Brian AtlasAlaska um it's like around 750,000 a little bit under that and are are you an Anchorage that's the a little bit north of capital right uh Juno is the capital

Tonyor it's the it's the most uh populous area yes um you're an hour um or how far from the C uh not the capital the an from Anchorage I'm about a half 20

Tonyminutes 30 minutes from Anchorage but um that's just from the north side of Anchorage it takes another 45 minutes to get all the way across the city so I

Brian Atlasfeel like it's got to be hard to like to date in Alaska it's like the most remote place you know I wish I was thinking of things like that when I was 30 and I

Tonydecided to move there I'm not sure right now I'm buying a house and I'm going to own it in three more years and then I'll be better positioned to make those kind of choices Texas has been kind of on the

Tonybrain lately but um in Alaska they say that the ratio of men to women is 10 men to one woman um and they prob they probably say this other places but a

Tonysaying in Alaska is that the the odds are good but the goods are oddd does that apply to you affirmative affirmative all right

Brian Atlasokay all right what about you I'm in a relationship okay how long You' been in the relationship about a year one year

Brian Atlaslike 11 months all right cool it's long uh long distance or yeah okay uh is this your longest relationship uhuh it's my first ever okay and I

Brian Atlasyou've been on the show like two times I think before two times or three I think three lot like but back in 2023 right it's been a while since we've had you on

Brian Atlasuh if I recall you were celibate prior to this guy yeah still celibate

Brian Atlasmhm stop the C wait wait really yeah are you wait you're waiting till marriage yeah are you're Christian right yeah okay got what about you

MeganI think my shirt says it all oh I can't I'm can you read it for us cuz I can't really see it says I'm single and in the mood to get nervous around someone I find attractive but I don't really get

Brian Atlasthat nervous oh okay so you're single I'm single and ready to do whatever your shirt says uh how long you been single

Meganfor um I've been single for like I want to say like two years but I've had like things with people in between kind of like boys just love me we said I love

Meganyou the two guys in between that but my last guy um yeah uh longest Royal relationship three years into the mic into the mic three years three years all right who broke up with who I broke up

Meganwith him because I saw him benm moing this girl that he was not allowed to talk to I mean not that he wasn't allowed to talk to but we agreed that if he talked to her he would talk you see what the note was was it like for plan b

Meganor something I think she was like 50 bucks or something I don't I don't know exactly what it was but I think she was buying like something from him if you know what I mean

Meganwhat drugs he was buying drugs can we say that no yeah yeah but

Brian Atlasyeah okay oh my God I said too much and uh the three-year relationship was that the one that ended two years

Brian Atlasago um I mean the both like around 3 years uh there was another threeyear relationship yeah which that which ended

Brian Atlas2 years ago yeah who broke up with who um he passed away from overdose sorry to hear yeah sorry I just got dark a little bit uh okay and then uh let's see what else in the 2-year

Meganperiod you've been single you said there's been a couple guys in the picture only two only two guys in the picture how long were you seeing them like I saw one guy for a year and

Meganthen the other one it like recently ended cuz he's a hoe wait you saw one one of them for a year yeah were you boyfriend girlfriend no it was a

Megansituation [ __ ] yeah he was like a lot older I wanted to live my life but he tra me right how old was he um like uh like early

Brian Atlas40s I'm 25 I'm not like a a baby yeah that's not that bad so like 15 20 year age Gap mhm okay that's fine uh

Meganand were you guys exclusive uh kind of yeah what do you mean kind of I mean you were seeing other guys no I actually wasn't I wasn't

Brian AtlasI no yeah I wasn't I wasn't okay but you been wait and then the other guy was for how long 6 months you said or it was like we met last

Brian AtlasDecember okay and how long did you guys date for well we didn't date but we were like seeing each other for like like 6 months you didn't tape so what was the nature of seeing each other um like we

Meganwould hang out at night during the day actually okay my money making hours I put aside for him um and he was my neighbor so it was like really like convenient like yeah

Brian Atlaslike 4 minutes like that's rare in La he only lasted 4 minutes no it was he was 4 minutes oh sorry I thought we were talking about the nature okay uh so it

Brian Atlaswas like a friends with benfits hook up buddy or we were like friendly neighbors with Benefits friendly neighbors with Benefits yeah he brought me cookies

Brian Atlasoh cool all right what about you I am married okay how long you've been married for S years together for how

Elizabethlong seven and nine months seven years and nine months all right uh kids yes how many kids one all right

Brian Atlasfrom him no different guy yeah okay uh longest relationship 7 years and 9 months the okay all right uh the how

Brian Atlasold's your kid 16 so you were uh 20 19 19 mhm okay how long were you dating that guy we weren't

Elizabethdating it was a greate oh yeah but um yeah so we're we weren't dating but and I don't

Elizabethget any I didn't get any support from him ever child support no child support no well I gave him the option I

Elizabethbasically told him that he could like be in her life um or not cuz he was denying the pregnancy and then

Elizabethum he chose not to and I just said that I would ask that he not contact me until she's old enough to understand and um so I never asked him for

Silly (Sylvie)anything all right what about you uh I'm in a two-year relationship uh my longest relationship is 5 years all right five years uh who broke

Silly (Sylvie)up with who in the 5-year relationship uh me why I changed how

Silly (Sylvie)so I have like a change every five years I don't know I wanted to go out and stuff um and he didn't you wanted to go out yeah what do

Silly (Sylvie)you mean like to bars it was um I was uh with him during covid so um I was inside a lot and we liked it because he's a

Silly (Sylvie)gamer um but then K's yeah helped me in a lot of the house and and uh I wanted to go out and sure he didn't

Silly (Sylvie)how did you meet your current uh boyfriend in a game store at your work no not in in game different game game store yeah he was playing Magic and I

Silly (Sylvie)was um waiting for my graded Pokemon cards he was playing Magic the Gathering

Silly (Sylvie)yes is he good uh he plays Commander so it doesn't really matter wait he was sorry wait repeat the question he

Brian Atlaswas doing magic yes yes doing the magic doing the magic yes on me yeah explain the M the magic magic the Gathering um do you know Pokemon like the card game

Silly (Sylvie)not really you do you know well like I know it but I I'm not really I don't play oh yeah it's a different kind of Pokemon game it's with Magik Arts I love that for you

Brian Atlasyou okay and uh does he wear a fedora no what is that a fedora like it's a gamer

Brian Atlasuniform certain kind of hat oh yeah you're put that on oh thanks it's like that thing so cute that's a that's like the magic the Gathering Yeah

Silly (Sylvie)official head head gear if you magic you have to wear that no that sucks I'll take it back thanks

Brian Atlasum cool actually wait no let's get rid of that okay cool let's see we're going to get into uh some of the pre-show notes guys like the video if you're tuning in Andrew Wilson will be joining

Brian Atlasus in a little bit guys in just a little bit so we're going to get into the notes Here why don't we start with uh Cena all

Brian Atlasright Cena so you do only fans you do exclusive uncentered content solo and BG content yes so boy girl content

Brian Atlasyes how do you know it says it on your o yeah I do a little investigating on the guest beforehand um not investigating but you know research

Brian Atlasrather uh you you're single but uh I mean you do BG content so who are you doing the BG content with not your boyfriend like not it's

Brian Atlasnot your it's like just a guy my roommate your roommate okay um and then you're let's see what else and I think it's either on your Twitter or

Brian Atlasyour o uh just trying to pay for uni yes okay which is the engineering you're pursuing engineering okay

Brian Atlasuh and then I had a question let's pull up her Tik Tok the first one it's uh it's interesting I I was it actually that's

Brian Atlashow I I think I first saw you it up on my for you page and I was like this is this is content it it's it's content do you

Brian Atlashave it all right so you just uh you eat food you do food reviews and food challenges yeah um your most popular one

Brian Atlasis the the burrito one and then next tab audio inous burrito in three bites this is

Brian Atlassauce and it's cat just yeah it's it's okay

Brian Atlasready how you going to finish that [ __ ] in three bites bro that's like that's at least 12 12 20 20 bites no I think I could do that in four bites now why do

Brian Atlasyou put cream okay I try to take just stop that [ __ ] um you why do you put cream on the on the outside the burrito

Brian Atlasit's queso that's queso oh I clearly don't yes I I I raw dog burrito whoa what the

Brian Atlas[ __ ] oh no the chat's going to get me for that one um yeah okay that's cool yeah have you ever been able to in three bites finish a phallic

Cenashaped if you continue watching I actually finish a whole corn dog 6 inch or longer in three bites okay nice I

Brian Atlasknow good job thank you okay cool uh you said there was a date where the guy you went out with kept comparing you to fictional anime

Brian Atlascharacters and K-pop Idols trying to convince you to turn Korean mhm as you looked to the part already yeah so

Cenabasically I went out on the state once with this guy I think he might have been on drugs I'm not sure but he kept comparing me to

Cenaanime characters and I think it's because I'm Asian like oh oh thank you I I wasn't sure thank you for clarifying oh okay

Cenabut I think it's cuz I'm Asian and he kept pulling out photos of like anime girls and like scrolling and like oh my gosh you look like her oh my gosh you look like her and then there are K-pop

CenaIdols that he kept comparing me too and then he was like you know if you like dress like that you would go like you would be so hot

Cenalike that's my biggest fantasy all that stuff and he was saying to me like oh you're not Chinese cuz I'm Chinese right mhm he was saying you're not Chinese you're actually Korean and I was

Cenalike I don't know my own Unicity okay he just kept saying stuff like that so [ __ ] was there a second date hell no do you know what eity that

Tiffanyguy was he was Korean yeah I don't like Korean guys neither do I chill out why don't you like cuz I just

Brian Atlasdon't are you what are you I'm Korean you're Korean yeah you're a self-loathing Korean generally speaking I don't like Korean guys what oh Korean guys yeah why what' you think I

Brian Atlassaid what do you mean you said you don't you said you don't like Koreans no I said I don't like Korean guys oh okay well why why yeah why because a lot of them tend to be like Mama's Boys boys

Brian Atlasreally it's like the culture they grew up in is that is that true I don't yeah well I'm Korean so I would know do you have a brother yeah is he a mama's boy yeah oh

Cenaokay cool uh wait so there wasn't a second date though no maybe in his dreams but not maybe in his

Brian Atlasdreams okay and then you said your take on dating growing up with your father spoiling you you look for men who provide you look for a man who provides

Cenaeverything yes I look for a provider okay uh elaborate a bit a provider like

Cenasomeone who takes care of you who pays for everything like I know you're talking about the 50/50 if you you couldn't find a provider I feel like to me it's like I

Cenawant someone who can provide for me just like my father did because that's my expectations in dating and you know someone who will spoiled me

Cenabut obviously I'll do my part as well cuz there's no like you someone can't just provide for you and you don't like expect to do

Cenanothing for them in return right and so what would you do for them in return like the like the traditional it might be a little iffy but like I would be a traditional

Cenahousewife like I don't mind that like I don't mind so you would quit on fans yes yeah I don't mind like being a traditional housewife taken care of the kids doing my part can you um the

Brian Atlasmicrophone's blocking your face a bit are you able to scoot in your chair this way this way like you are you on the edge of the chair no we're like okay then scoot your mic that works too that

Cenaworks better yeah the mic was just kind of block in your face go ahead I don't remember what I said talking about um would you stop only fans I would I would stop only fans for

Brian Atlassomeone like that but so you said you want a provider so but like you're 18 right so what's the age group that you're typically dating or wood date wood date

Cenayeah I don't think age matters okay yeah but so like 80 that's my

Cenagrandpa um what's the oldest you would go oldest okay 28 2830 okay got it 23 would you but would

Brian Atlasyou date like another 18 or 19 or 20y old no absolutely not okay cuz I was going to say probably most 18 19 20 year olds are not going to be able to provide for you in the way that you want to be

Brian Atlasprovided and those are the men in your uh age group yeah they're probably in college and yes don't have a lot of

Brian Atlasdisposable income yes or no disposable income but uh okay so you uh you would date a guy who's older than you okay and

Brian Atlasuh you also well your father spoiled you yes question were you born in Canada I was yeah okay I got deported

Cenaback to China for 4 years huh H you got deported like not like actually deported I got sent so my parents gave birth to me and then they sent me back for 4

Brian Atlasyears from zero to four yeah like oh okay so you don't you probably don't even remember most of that right I

Brian Atlasdo the zero to not the Zero part like the foure like like some of the three to four feel like do you guys remember like

Brian Atlasstuff that like when you were three no she's 18 May she's 18 I don't think 19 I don't remember anything I mean even when you're in your youth typically you don't

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