ALL RAGE QUIT & KICKED OUT?! HATER Came To DESTROY Brian?! HØE PHASE = GOOD?! | Dating Talk 287
Date: 2026-03-23
Duration: 9h 38m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Julia(guest)
SPEAKER_04Lindsey(guest)
SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_07Laetitia(guest)
SPEAKER_08Chris Love(guest)
SPEAKER_09Maria(guest)
SPEAKER_10Lexi(guest)
SPEAKER_11Veronica(guest)
SPEAKER_12Brooklyn(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:11
IntroAll guests introduce themselves. Lexi reveals findom operation with male manager.
01:35:00
Key MomentBrian: do sex workers deserve chivalry? Sparks central debate.
02:14:00
QuoteBrian: 'Women do jack s---. YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING.' on what women bring to dating.
03:17:40
Key MomentMaria drove across states to cheat, turned around at 'Don't commit adultery' billboard
03:43:00
ControversyBrian tells Maria's boyfriend Luke he should dump her
06:47:00
ControversyVeronica cries and rage quits during weight rejection debate
06:51:00
ControversyLindsey confronts Brian and is kicked off - second rage quit
07:08:00
Key MomentJulia's toxic ex: flew out another girl, got her Korean name tattooed on his ribs
08:16:00
Key MomentLaetitia discusses sex addiction history and 3-year celibacy journey
08:47:00
OtherChris Love can't name Canada, continents, or what a nickel is worth in trivia
Topics Discussed
00:00:11
Guest Introductions and Findom
Lexi (18) does findom with male manager making $10K/mo. Brian questions whether it constitutes fraud/sex work.
00:48:40
Relationship Status Round
Chris Love has 12-13 man roster, 5 dates/week, fake boyfriend arrangement. Maria 12 years with Luke. Laetitia divorced, celibate.
01:35:00
Chivalry for Non-Traditional Women
Brian argues sex workers don't deserve chivalry. Women can't articulate what they uniquely bring to dating.
03:15:00
Maria's Heroin Addiction
10-year heroin addiction. Nearly cheated driving across states. Turned around at 'Don't commit adultery' billboard.
04:04:00
Self-Ratings and Looks
Several rate themselves 10. Brian gives 4-6.5 ratings.
04:16:00
Julia's Racial Dating Preferences
Julia (Korean-American) not attracted to Asian men, prefers white men.
05:13:00
Minimum Income Requirements
Lexi $120K. Chris Love $400K-$20M. Maria $50K. Lindsey 'I don't know.'
06:35:00
Weight Rejection Debate / Rage Quits
Veronica cries and rage quits. Lindsey confronts Brian and also rage quits/kicked off. Two walkoffs.
07:08:00
Julia's Toxic Ex Story
Ex flew out another girl day Julia moved in. Got other girl's Korean name tattooed on his ribs.
07:14:00
Hoe Phase Debate
Julia argues hoe phase can be empowering. Laetitia says her promiscuous past wasn't actually empowering.
08:16:00
Laetitia's Self-Improvement Journey
Former sex addict, celibate years working on herself. 'Married herself' 3 years ago.
08:47:00
Rapid Fire Trivia
Chris Love can't name Canada as country north of US. Brooklyn excels.
Transcript
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04:57:04
Brian AtlasUh let me see if I can do any uh Julia. You're in exclusive relationship with a man 15 years older than you. You're about 6 months into the relationship. You've known him since you're 23. He's
04:57:16
Brian Atlasactually He was your boss when you guys first met. Okay. Cool. Good times. All right, here. Let's do some stuff. Actually, you know what? I got to get up. And then we'll do some
04:57:28
Brian Atlasquestionnaire stuff. We'll read some of you guys's notes that you sent. Uh want you guys Mhm. I feel like I got to give them a prompt while I step away, otherwise >> like, I need a second to chill.
04:57:40
Brian AtlasOtherwise, they're just going to talk about the weather or some [ __ ] like that. >> I want to sit in silence. All right, why don't you guys share
04:57:51
Brian Atlasuh the most toxic thing you've ever done to a guy.
04:57:58
LindseyHave fun. Um I don't know. I don't really have an answer. Me neither. Yeah, I don't do anything toxic. Yes, >> [laughter] >> absolutely. Lies. Yeah, I believe in karma.
04:58:09
Maria>> I've done a lot of toxic things. Let's start with which one? Start with you. Uh [laughter] I don't know. Um Older sister >> into the mic. >> Oh, yeah. Wait, I feel like him now. I don't know. [gasps] I'm just like a
04:58:21
Marialittle toxic in general, you know? >> [laughter] >> Wait, so what's something you've done? I mean, the drugs, you know, of course. Um To a guy, though? To a guy. Uh
04:58:36
MariaWhat? I don't know. Pass, you guys. Pass. Anyone else?
04:58:45
MariaI know. I'm like, let me think of something specific. Like what? >> you do. Wait, give me an idea. You know me.
04:58:54
BrooklynI'm too nice. Just kidding. She is. Someone else. >> I just want to expose you. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, don't expose me.
04:59:09
LindseyGuys, we're doing really bad. We need to keep this going. Well, I just I don't have anything to answer for this prompt. I genuinely have not done anything toxic to a guy. >> What about you? I feel like you've done
04:59:19
Laetitiasomething really toxic. Just being super hysterical. Hysterical? Hysterical. >> Oh. Hysterical. Yeah, like I had anger issues.
04:59:31
LexiSo, being pretty angry. Do you like fight them or do you like do something Like I would not be the guy. >> do stuff to their stuff, like you key their car or something. >> Oh, no, no, no. Like that would be straight to your face. Like if you know,
04:59:44
LaetitiaI spit in your >> them names. Maybe not calling them names, but just getting hysterical on stuff that doesn't It's not a big deal, and I just make a huge deal out of it. Oh.
04:59:56
Laetitia>> Oh, like that's a little toxic. >> So, it's not really completely toward the men. Specifically, it's just like getting completely out of control. You like throw things? What's that? Do you throw things? I did with my first
05:00:08
Laetitiapartner. What did you throw? I was like 19 to 23. We were together. What did you throw? Uh I don't know. Whatever, like Whatever's in your range. >> Yeah, and like Like you pick up the microwave and throw it.
05:00:19
Lexi>> No, I wouldn't go to that like that bad. >> microwave, just like a chair or something. >> No, that would be more like a Yeah, a cup that's on like What? You're just like grabbing the chair and like throwing it? Wait, that's kind of awesome. >> but just a cup or something like that.
05:00:33
LaetitiaLike >> small thing. That's not going to hurt anyone. Yeah, it's Yeah, and I would not hurt them like I've never hurt a man like, you know, physically or like Yeah, you probably could, though. >> you sure that the things you were
05:00:44
Laetitiagetting hysterical about were like maybe justified? Oh, absolutely not. Okay. >> [laughter] >> Like I That's why I had to work on me because I didn't want to get angry as
05:00:54
Laetitiamuch as I was. I didn't want to like that hysterical and anger like throwing stuff was my first relationship with my ex-husband. I was more verbally like
05:01:05
LaetitiaAnd yeah, probably verbally abusive. Like I don't recall like any situation that could have been, but yeah, like considering my behavior and who I was and like how
05:01:16
LaetitiaI was, I would say that I've been very much I like um verbally abusive to them. >> Yeah. Do you think that You're French, right? >> I am. Do you think French people are more aggressive?
05:01:28
LaetitiaWe might be more direct. Yeah. And I'm passionate. And I love that. Very much passionate. I love that so much. Passion is definitely a
05:01:37
LaetitiaAnd I am trying to keep my passion. Yeah. But get my anger under control. And How's that now? It's awesome. Good. And my my last partner, I was the toxic one with my
05:01:51
Laetitiahusband. I was definitely the narcissistic and the toxic one. Um and then with my last partner, I got karma back. Yeah. That That was going to do it. So,
05:02:03
Laetitiait's cool like I Very self-aware as well. So, how did you like So, how did you heal out of that? Today, very much. Yeah, at that point >> How did you heal out of that? How did I what? >> Like go from that those anger issues to
05:02:15
Laetitiabeing able to like, you know, not be like that anymore as much. Because when it hurts, you realize that you don't want it for you and for that person um so, it's just whatever it takes. Like
05:02:28
Laetitiayeah, self-awareness was one thing and I was like, okay, I need to know why am I angry? Like why what triggers me? And like work on those [ __ ] and then
05:02:38
Laetitianow I And now I know better and I'm like if even if I get triggered, I'm just going to sit down, take a couple of deep breaths, and like I And I have way more self-esteem, so it's like
05:02:51
LaetitiaI would just be like, hey, you know what? That doesn't Yeah. belong here and I'm like, I'm not wasting my time with that [ __ ] You want to be pissed off, that's fine, but I'm just going to step away because I don't want that [ __ ] So,
05:03:03
Laetitiait's just yeah, I don't care anymore too much about what people could say or think. Mhm. And it's just So, how like how do you guys handle conflict in your relationships or like dating?
05:03:16
LaetitiaUh Well, I don't date anymore, so that's why it's Like you don't want to date at all ever again? Uh I just like I get back to my dream of meeting the guys that like I want
05:03:28
Laetitiathat the type of relationship that I want. And I am waiting for that Like not waiting, but I am working to be the person that would deserve that guy as much as he deserves me.
05:03:42
LaetitiaAnd like I was saying earlier, it's like, well, yeah, like if you want to be treated like a queen, you need to think of like >> about yourself. >> How Yeah, and like how you would treat your your king as well. And I never
05:03:52
Laetitiareally realized that, so now I Yeah, I just I I still have some work to do and I know it, so >> the fun part. Oh, yeah, no, absolutely. And I don't mind like I
05:04:04
LaetitiaI don't mind waiting. I don't mind if it takes time. I just love the work. I fell in love with myself and I got married with myself 3 years ago. So, it's just like for me, it's yeah, on the self
05:04:15
LaetitiaBy looking for him, I looked for myself and now I have found myself and I just want to keep doing that. It's beautiful.
05:04:25
JuliaYeah. Like I'd rather be alone than be with a man who makes me feel less loved than I like love myself. I'm like, you don't need You'll never settle if you treat
05:04:37
Laetitiayourself like really well and you love yourself. Yeah, absolutely. That's what makes dating fun is with self-confidence. I mean, unless someone brings that to you. Brings what? Like as
05:04:48
Laetitiamuch love and self-love and self-respect. Like if he looks at you the way you look at you in the mirror, That's the one you stay with. In one of In my last In my toxic relationship, like
05:04:59
JuliaI got so upset and would get hysterical like you. Like this girl I just do not know and do not like like desperate and sensitive and fragile and um it's because
05:05:11
Julialike I just was so angry. I was like, how dare you do this to me? And like I just felt like he had to make it right and he had to change. I'll never do that again. I just walk away at this point.
05:05:21
JuliaI'm like, I'm not going to like sacrifice my peace for a guy like that. And I also didn't love myself, which is why I stayed cuz I'm like, oh, I'd rather stay in this because this feels
05:05:33
Juliabetter than what I think being alone would be. Yes. Oh my god, please. Please. I'll have yeah. Yes. Yes, please. Yes. Sure. Yes, yes, yes.
05:05:47
LindseyWell, I was just curious like how you guys handle conflict like with the guys that you're dating as well as the guys who you're in a relationship with. >> Wait, let's do this because not going to lie, your conversation's [ __ ] boring
05:05:57
Brian Atlasas [ __ ] Why don't you guys Who here disagrees with somebody on something? We're all agreeing. >> [laughter] >> From different angles. Do we have some conservative women? Do we have some
05:06:10
Lindseyliberal women? Maybe that's going to have an influence on how you would conduct yourself in a relationship. Where's the disagreement? Okay. I mean, I would say I definitely would be [clears throat] considered more traditional and conservative in
05:06:20
Lexirelationships. So, raise your hand if you're like more conservative rather than liberal. Like In dating, right? >> Oh, I don't know. Are we talking about dating? No, we're talking about dating. Wait, so what's the difference between dating as
05:06:33
Juliaa liberal and as like a conservative? Not like liberal as in Yeah. Whichever one you are, would you have the guy being the other one? Would that be a deal breaker? Wait, wait. Wait, so >> Like if you're a liberal, would the guy
05:06:46
Lindseybeing a conservative would that be a deal breaker? >> look even look at his politics. You what? >> I I wasn't processing it as politics. I thought you meant like in values in a relationship. Yeah, like actual
05:06:57
Lindseyrelationship, not politics like political viewpoints, but like are you conservative partner in a Does that mean like traditional or not? Yeah, pretty much. Liberal or a little more free. Is everyone here like more traditional? No,
05:07:08
JuliaI am, but I don't know if everyone is. I Who Who else is I? I'm like a mix of both. What do you mean by that? Like I'm I'm very much like the female in the relationship. I love to cook, I love to clean, I do laundry, I love taking care
05:07:20
Juliaof my man. But I'm also like I am a little wild and I like to go out and be independent and the caveat. I think that's I feel like everyone who here wouldn't be like a stay-at-home mom. I wouldn't know. You don't want kids,
05:07:34
Lindseyright? But if I did have kids, I wouldn't want to be a stay-at-home mom. I work for a tech company. So who of you guys would be a stay-at-home mom? Would you I mean I
05:07:45
LexiIt sounds so fun. Sometimes. >> [laughter]
05:07:52
Lexi>> I love kids so much. So if a man was like I'd fully like provide everything for you, you'd be like no, I still want to work. Yeah, I mean I'd still want to work. But It's not as much maybe.
05:08:05
JuliaNo, I'd still work. It's two things. Like I do want something that's mine and that I work on and stuff, but also if I had a kid and I didn't work for whatever like 15 years and our kids are teenagers about
05:08:18
Juliato go to high school and my my husband tragically passes away for some reason and let's say he's not very wealthy and doesn't have a great life insurance plan. What the heck am I supposed to do? Yeah, I go out and find a job is what I have to do, but how do I have people
05:08:31
Lindseyhire me when I've had 15 years of unemployment? That's kind of the bigger reason, I guess. And it's very realistic to build businesses that don't require you to work like at places or 24 like you know, at least with what
05:08:44
LindseyI do, I totally be able to be a high earner while still being a stay-at-home mom. So there are ways. I guess it just depends on like what job you have, your kind of lifestyle you have, you know, but
05:08:56
LexiI'd still want to work though. Um wait, I forgot. Yes. Would you still work? Now that you said that like if they died or something, I would probably still I would still work, but I don't think or like I would like
05:09:09
Lexito be like a Pilates instructor or something do that like maybe a couple days a week. But like you know, if they die then it's like you can work full-time. But also I don't want to think about my husband dying also, but I guess you have to think about the future.
05:09:21
LexiYeah, but you should always be thinking about that.
05:09:27
LindseyYou should absolutely be thinking about that what you guys will do long-term.
05:09:33
LindseyWell, yeah, cuz finances. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of legal aspects to that especially if you don't get a pre-nup. I mean even with a pre-nup there's still a lot of like paperwork and things, but
05:09:45
LexiThat's a good question. Do you guys believe in pre-nups? Yeah. What if you make more money than your husband, you know? It's like a yes and a no. What other way around? If the guy is super wealthy. I don't know. I just think it's
05:09:58
Lexigood to have a pre-nup. Like I would I would feel so guilty to take everything from someone and they worked so hard for that. But also I would just like hope that we weren't going to get married and hope in like
05:10:09
Lexiseeing a divorce, you know? Sure in the future. Sure. I don't think anyone gets married hoping But like I feel like it's just like a forever thing. Like I wouldn't get Honestly, I don't even know I believe in
05:10:21
Leximarriage, but like some people just like live life as boyfriend, girlfriend, you know? Like you've been with your boyfriend so long like what's the point of even I mean a wedding and everything, but you
05:10:32
Lindseydon't need to do all that paperwork. Well, I mean if you have kids and you have built if you have a home together and all types of stuff. But it is it's
05:10:45
Lindseythe government becomes once you get married. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like I would say yes and no. The only reason why I say that is because of based off the guys that I've dated, they would not want a pre-nup. So I and I would have to respect that
05:10:57
Lindseybecause you know, that's their decision. Why? I don't know. They just never did. They you know, they felt like they wanted to make sure that I was taken care of in the event that something happened. Wait, what? Like they were wanted me to
05:11:10
Juliabe taken care of in the event that something would happen. No, cuz with the pre-nup you they you're not designated, right? Huh? Like with A pre-nup okay, pre-nup is an agreement
05:11:20
Juliathat if we get divorced under a certain circumstances, this is what will happen. Like assets divided. If you don't have a pre-nup, you're just leaving it up to the government and that can change anytime. So if he really wanted cared about you and is like I
05:11:34
Julialove her so much that even if we divorced, like I want to make sure she's taken care of so I want to give her more than what the government will probably give you. It's just the traditional values. Like some people just view that
05:11:45
Lindseyas a part of tradition. What not having a pre-nup? Yeah. It's not normalized in traditional like relationships. I feel like even my family would be like why are you getting a pre-nup? There's It's just more traditional not to.
05:11:57
LindseyThat's real. The [ __ ] Sorry, continue. And I'm like I live by that. >> [laughter] >> I'm like yeah, I'm like traditional through and through. >> [laughter] >> Is it?
05:12:09
MariaWhat even is it? Yeah, it is more traditional. Luke is calling. No. Oh, oh. I don't know. I think he's ordering the pizzas. Okay, cool. Good. I'm so hungry. I know. Me
05:12:21
Lindseytoo. Honestly, I'm like I want to go home. >> [laughter] >> Like I want to leave.
05:12:29
LexiIt's been running for 5 hours, I think. What is it? 5 hours, I think. So it's probably like 9:30. 10:30. Oh, okay. Got to go back to LA. I know. I'm like I want to go home.
05:12:43
Brian AtlasI'm drinking the [laughter] rest of my Monster. I'm so tired. All right, let's get into the rest of the topics. What is the minimum yearly income to be your future husband? Um I just said 120,000.
05:12:55
Chris LoveOkay. Into the mic, please. I said 400k to 20 million. I don't know.
05:13:07
>> [laughter]
05:13:15
Brian Atlas>> Uh that's a pretty big range. I I really don't know. Well, so but the minimum So is the minimum 400k or is it 20 million? I don't know. It's in between It's in between that. I don't know. It's in between that. I
05:13:28
Brian Atlasjust picked But so you would date a guy who makes 400k. Okay, so that would be the minimum then. What about you, Brooklyn? I don't know. I didn't even put anything. Well, just
05:13:39
Brian Atlassay something then. Wait, what did you say? I said 120k. Same. She's so good for a cult. [laughter] She's a good little sheep. She's so submissive. What should my answer be?
05:13:50
Brian AtlasW W B dog W Brooklyn. Uh what about you? Uh in the south if we're both working he can make like 50k. I'll be okay. I have no idea. I cannot answer that
05:14:03
Brian Atlasquestion. Why can't you know, I've noticed a pattern throughout this whole show. It's nuanced. It's nuanced. It's nuanced. It depends on the guy. So. So you're saying
05:14:14
Brian Atlasif the more attractive the guy is in other traits, the less he the less he can make, but if he doesn't possess certain traits, he has to make up for it by earning more money? No. At least not
05:14:26
Lindseyfor me. I'm sure for a lot of people, but no. So what would you do? Would Because like some guys are low earning right now, but like maybe they're in medical school few years or down the line, you know,
05:14:38
Lindseythere are some people who have a business and I believe wholeheartedly in that business. So I would maybe support them. That doesn't mean I make a lot on my own. So I don't really have to search for that. Typically, I have an issue
05:14:50
Lindseywhen I do date guys who don't earn as much as me, but that's typically cuz it makes them feel insecure over time. I don't really mind. So that's why I'm like I don't know. I don't have like a hardcore number. I pay attention to the
05:15:00
Lindseyman I'm dating, not all these other attributes. So would you date a guy who makes $0 a year? Zero? No. Because that means he's not working for anything for himself. You do have a minimum then.
05:15:13
LindseyI just don't know what it would be. Would that minimum be would you date a guy who works at McDonald's? No, but it has to do with character not how much he makes. I'm just attracted to certain type of guy. Let's say his
05:15:25
Lindseycharacter is amazing, but he works at McDonald's. Are you dating him? I don't think that's a good character. Why would that hold Cuz if he has no plan past that then I don't I know. I don't. You can't have good character and work a
05:15:37
Brian Atlasfast food job. Well, future projection, yes. So character is tied to financial achievement? No, just like goals. Financial goals long-term. Billionaires who are [ __ ] terrible people and then
05:15:48
Lindseythere's guys who make 20,000 a year who are high virtue. Yeah, but for me high virtue includes their future projection. So if it's a guy who works at McDonald's, they typically don't have a plan for the I think a guy who works at
05:15:58
Brian AtlasMcDonald's has the same capacity for virtue as does a That but I'm not looking at that though. So that's what I'm saying. I'm looking at their future trajectory. >> [laughter]
05:16:10
Veronica>> Um I don't know. I said a mill, but I was kind of just joking cuz I don't have a I don't have a specific number. write a mill. So Well, I mean I I have to take that
05:16:21
Brian Atlasseriously. I mean period. Well, okay, but the minimum yearly income that is the question. What is the minimum? By the way, guys uh don't be outside of me that we're going to go late tonight when people can't just give me straight answers. Go ahead,
05:16:32
Brian Atlasanswer the question. A million dollars. Okay, so that is that the the answer minimum yearly income? Yeah. So a guy who makes $500,000, you won't date him. No, I would. Do you know what [ __ ] a minimum Oh my
05:16:44
Lindseygod, I'm actually tilted. Hold on, I got to get up again. Um Do you know what minimum [ __ ] means? Hold on. It's just such a superficial question. I don't know how to respond to that. >> [laughter]
05:16:55
Lindsey>> It is extremely superficial. I'm like I just don't have one. But maybe we can move on. What about you?
05:17:06
LaetitiaOh, well, he said he needed a break, so. Yeah. I was just kind of joking. [laughter and clears throat] I just thought it was funny. I just put a mill. Okay, and what about you? I said
05:17:17
Brian Atlasit doesn't matter the number, it matters the mindset. Exactly. That's what I was trying to say. [ __ ] cope. It matters. Okay. Well, he's got to got to have a billionaire mindset. He's got to have a
05:17:29
Brian Atlasmillionaire mindset. Okay. What did you mean? I disagree with you. Okay, tell Do you have a minimum that you wrote down? Me? No. It the the the mindset matters. Okay,
05:17:42
Julialet's say he's got a great mindset and he works at McDonald's. Are you dating him? Yeah. Okay, cool. What about you, Julia? I said about the same as what I make. Which is what? Right now? Yeah.
05:17:52
Brian AtlasMore than 75K, less than 125K. Okay, pretty reasonable. So, 120K for you, 400,000 to 20 million for you. >> [laughter] >> Uh which is ridiculous.
05:18:04
Brian AtlasBoth answers. Uh >> [sighs and gasps] >> and then Veronica, you said a milli, a million dollars. Uh so, just to be clear, Veronica, just for clarification, will you date a guy who
05:18:16
Brian Atlasuh who makes $500,000? I mean, realistically, yeah. >> Can you speak into the mic for Realistically, yes.
05:18:28
VeronicaOkay, so the minimum is what? The minimum is what? I don't know. I don't have a specific one, I guess. >> But it's not a million, it's Well, that was a joke. It's not a million. If you
05:18:41
Brian Atlaswould date a guy who makes 500,000, would you date a guy who makes 100,000? For the money, yes. Would you date a guy
05:18:49
Brian Atlaswho makes 50K? Sure, is he nice? For sure. Uh 20K? Mhm. Probably not.
05:19:00
Brian AtlasOkay. Uh going to the woman who wants $400,000. >> [laughter] >> Uh so I just put You do That's like uh I think it maybe it's a bit higher now,
05:19:12
Brian Atlasmaybe it's $500,000. That's the top 1% men. Mhm. Someone who makes $400,000 a year, that's a top 1% man. Are you a top 1% woman?
05:19:25
Brian AtlasThe words that came out of my mouth is what I mean. Uh are you a top 1% woman? I mean kind of, kind of not. I don't know.
05:19:40
Brian AtlasOkay. Um do you think a guy who makes $400,000 a year uh do you think you know, how how old What's the age range of men you're willing to date? 30 up to 60.
05:19:53
Brian AtlasOkay, if you do go older, maybe you'll find a guy who's willing maybe willing. Uh the thing is is that most men who make this much money, again, you did go older there, so that's your leeway.
05:20:04
Brian AtlasUh men closer to your age, between the ages of uh you're 28, right? Between the age of 25 and 40 who make $400,000 a year
05:20:15
Chris Lovethey have uh pretty good options and they're not going to date the stripper. Um you're incorrect because mostly that's what the guys I date.
05:20:26
Brian AtlasBut you're not in a relationship. Uh you're 28, you've not had >> And I'm not just a stripper, I'm a licensed hair dresser. >> Okay, I understand that you're other things, too. Okay, well, you know, drug dealer, but he also gives to charity.
05:20:38
Brian AtlasOkay, wonderful. Um the stripper thing is the sticking point, is going to be a sticking point for a lot of men. Men who make that much money, that's a very small proportion of men.
05:20:52
Brian AtlasUh I'm not saying that money is everything. Women go after other traits besides money, but men who are high men who are high earners tend to be generally more appealing to women. Again, not saying it's the only
05:21:04
Brian Atlasthing women care about, women care about other traits, too. Men who make $400,000 a year uh they have probably decent optionality. They have decent choice. Why would they date a stripper?
05:21:18
Brian AtlasThat's fine. Like I said, I date those type of men all the time. Okay, but you have to understand, there's a difference between relationship and marriage interest and
05:21:28
Brian Atlaslust interest. So, just because like women's metric of success is who you can get to commit to you.
05:21:41
Brian AtlasMen will take you on dates in furtherance of having sex with you once, twice, three times. Who will commit to you? Who will wife you up? Who will give you a ring? Who will give you children? Who will be in a relationship with you?
05:21:53
Brian AtlasI don't doubt that you go on dates and can, if you wanted to, sleep with men who do make this much money. The question is, will they wife you up? Will they be in a relationship with you? I mean, I think they're the the people
05:22:06
Chris LoveI've been with their mindset is she's a go-getter, she gets her money. She's young. This is not a career goal for the rest of my life. It's just to stack up, which I've been really smart about. Most people who are
05:22:18
Brian Atlasdancers spend their money on drugs and stuff, so. Okay. I mean, look, again, not saying you should be mistreated, not saying I'm not saying that. What I'm saying though is that these men who make $400,000
05:22:32
Brian Atlasuh they have typically good options. That's fine and I disagree and I agree with that, so. Okay, well, I mean uh all right. I don't know, what do the women here think? Do you think a guy who
05:22:43
Brian Atlasmakes $400,000 uh well, mhm, let's do a callback. Is she deserving of being in a relationship with a guy who makes $400,000 or more a year?
05:22:56
MariaIf that's what he wants. >> What asks the guy? Well, I mean, from a guy logic, I would say like from a guy logic, then probably no. Most guys who earn that much like prefer traditional.
05:23:09
Brian Atlas>> lifestyle. Do you think Do you think a uh a world-class beautiful 10 out of 10 supermodel who's smart and intelligent,
05:23:19
Brian Atlasdo you think that she is going to go for a overweight guy who plays video games all day? Well, I would, so yes. No, [laughter] I've dated guys like that.
05:23:31
LindseySo, yes. Yeah, it depends on the person. No. Yeah, and I would say yes and I think that's very interesting. >> guy that plays video games? I have dated someone like that, yeah. Let me add some
05:23:43
Brian Atlasother qualifiers. He did a lot of other things, too. Wasn't like his whole entire life was just in front of the camera. >> What I'm trying to get at here is oh my god. So bad faith. All right, I'm not even going to bother.
05:23:56
Brian AtlasI just I literally dated someone like that, so I'm That's why I'm saying. And I don't have anything bad to say about him. >> Okay, do you think most models model women Do you Okay, let me ask you like this. As someone who's there backstage,
05:24:08
Brian Atlasyes. Cuz they prefer guys who are not as attractive. That's what they say. >> Okay, whatever. It's a whole thing. Beautiful women have an abundance of options of men. If you have an abundance of options of
05:24:19
Brian Atlasmen, do some of your options include really attractive men with good jobs and good personalities? Then why the [ __ ] would that beautiful woman choose to
05:24:29
Brian Atlasdate the unattractive guy who's broke and smokes weed all day? What the [ __ ] >> Well, you didn't add all that other stuff. This is like common sense. Why do I have to explain this to
05:24:42
Brian AtlasYeah, you didn't bring any of that part into it. You just said if he plays video games and is overweight. >> You're telling You're telling me most women who are in shape, who are beautiful Fine, we'll just use the criteria I used. Most women who are
05:24:53
Brian Atlasbeautiful, given that they have an abundance of options and they probably can date men who have are fit and have nice bodies and who aren't playing video games all day. The two things I gave you was overweight and plays video games all
05:25:05
Brian Atlasday. You think if given the option, beautiful women would rather would sooner date the fat video game player over the the fit um guy who has other things going on in his life? Yes. Only based off of my Yes,
05:25:19
Lindseyyou're [ __ ] delusional. I'm just telling you what we talk about backstage. You're not a model. >> [laughter] >> I'm telling you what we actually talk about backstage at the shows. You're not a model, so you're asking us to generalize. I'm telling you what we
05:25:32
Lindseytalk about. Yes, but I'm telling you what we talk about backstage. >> So, backstage, women they talk about Women who are models aspire to date It's not about aspiration. They feel as though guys who aren't as attractive will treat them better. I'm not saying I
05:25:45
Lindseythink that's right. >> [ __ ] because you ask a girl Girls will tell you even the ugly dudes treat them better. >> No, but I'm telling you what they say at my stuff. If the guys who treat them like [ __ ] anyways, date the [ __ ] good-looking guys.
05:25:57
LindseyI'm telling you what people are saying. I can only go I'm like, I can only go based off experience. I don't hang Okay, so what they say
05:26:08
Brian Atlaswhen you see the boyfriend when you see Okay. Okay, what they say. [ __ ] what they say. Look at what they do. These beautiful women, their boyfriends are ugly. Their boy Hold on. Their boyfriends are [ __ ] chubby video game
05:26:20
Mariaplayers versus and they rejected men who are like fit >> Yes, cuz we're models, we don't like those guys. I'm telling you, we spend all of our time around them. ugly guys. No, we don't want to date other models.
05:26:32
LindseyI'm telling you. Like if you were to be backstage Yeah, but if they look like one, we typically don't go for them. That's what I'm trying to say. Like that's what they say. >> stuff. Oh, yeah. I agree, but I'm just telling you what they say. Do you
05:26:44
Lindseybelieve her? I don't There's a difference between They're different. I'm like, it's not like you're understanding the difference. I'm giving you objective data from my personal experience. I am not saying I
05:26:55
Lindseyagree with these things or not, but I am someone who does these things and I know what they say. So, you asked a question, I'm answering it that yes, they do. Like I personally have noticed that and they talk about it.
05:27:08
Brian Atlas>> they do, so I'm not denying that there might be I'm not saying no women ever do this. Well, you said models specifically. >> No, but I'm not
05:27:18
Brian Atlasthat is an impossibility, but I would if I was a betting man, I would say more often than not a genuinely beautiful woman does not
05:27:28
Brian Atlasaspire to date an obese video like video game player. They don't. I think I think most beautiful women >> [laughter] >> most I'm not some women might want to date a chubby guy, they might like his
05:27:40
Brian Atlaspersonality, they might like whatever. I want to argue that most beautiful women want to date handsome men who have a good physique. He does you know?
05:27:51
Brian AtlasDoes that sound wrong? Like do you think my truth maps onto reality more or does your truth map onto reality more? But I don't know what the general people
05:28:03
Brian Atlasdo. I literally spend my time and like kind of small circles. I know you don't, but that's fine. You don't need to. So you're telling me like you know all these girls who model and you've seen
05:28:15
Lindseytheir boyfriends. >> Yes. And they're like sometimes ugly, fat, all types of stuff. Most of them are single. So I'm like you know the only ones who are I know who are in relationships yes their boyfriends are not attractive and
05:28:28
Lindseymost of them do have jobs that require them to be at home most of the time. They typically prefer guys like that. So that's why I'm saying like it's a whole thing that we talk about. You think
05:28:41
Lindseywomen who are models would rather date a guy who's 300 lb versus a guy who's 180? I mean I'm not saying that. No, I'm just telling you what is said backstage. They would choose somebody who's less
05:28:53
Brian Atlasattractive absolutely. you I'd like to ask the other women here of your beautiful friends, do they gravitate towards overweight men or do they gravitate towards men who are normal physically
05:29:09
LexiDoes that ever any girl but like none of my friends or any girl I've met is been like I want a fat guy that plays video games. This does sound familiar but it sounds like insecure women. That's why I'm saying I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
05:29:22
LindseyI'm just telling you what they say. I don't agree with it. I don't think it's the majority at all. Well I only know well I only spend time in model circles. So I can that's why I said I don't know what the general
05:29:35
LindseyThat's what they talk about yes. Are insecure. Yes. Are you surprised in the modeling industry? Yes. They are some of the most insecure people in the world. Like what would you rate these guys?
05:29:47
LindseyProbably like a five or less. Didn't you say when we were doing this everyone's a 10? Yes, but in realistic what you guys are talking about then yes. If we were going based off of what society standards are then yeah that's what it would be.
05:30:02
VeronicaDo any other women want to win on this do you think? I usually do like to go after like fit attractive guys for the most part. I'm not seeking out a fat man.
05:30:12
LindseyLike does does people actually seek out men? Like I just don't like yeah. I'm like I do not seek out men. I think you're misunderstanding what we mean by seek out. I the the men probably are
05:30:24
Brian Atlasapproaching the women and the women select the men who Yeah [laughter] exactly. Okay, but All right.
05:30:35
Brian AtlasApparently the group of women you are aware of that inform Well a woman could be insecure and still want to date a hot guy. I don't understand.
05:30:47
LindseyI'm telling you. I mean you can I wish you could come backstage with me but [clears throat] I can only go based off of what my friends and the people I'm around say. So you know I can't really go based off of opinions I've never
05:30:58
Brian Atlasheard until now. Um yo can Tiff can you send head down? Hold on one second. I think like most people like I think that
05:31:10
Veronicaa lot of there are a lot of attractive women who do modeling work. I always see them and I'm like girl you can do a lot That's why I'm saying I'm like no this is a big thing. I don't know. It's
05:31:21
Veronicaalways like not like too heinous I guess. My experience has been like a zero and a 10. I don't know. It's always just a there a little bit I'm like whoa there
05:31:33
Lexibut Like what supermodel [clears throat] is dating like like an actual supermodel like you you you know what I'm right like I don't mean no I don't know. Most of them are single. That's what I'm
05:31:44
Lindseytrying to say. They don't have good dating experiences. Dating as a model is like almost impossible. It sucks. It's extremely difficult to date as a model. Most guys are as you literally
05:31:55
Lindseysaid. Runway runway and editorial. Okay. So you know I've had like billboards been on all every top magazine you could possibly think of I've been on it but
05:32:06
Lindseyit's just like people whether it's girls who I try to be friend or guys that I date they stigmatize me pretty quickly and then because of that it becomes very difficult to see me as a person outside of whatever the viewpoints they already
05:32:18
Lindseyhave are. A lot of guys they like the idea of dating a model who's been published on all these things but then once it comes to like actually getting to know me it's like they can't see past that. They just want to talk about the
05:32:29
Lindseymodeling and how I've done this and that or like it's never like more than that. I mean it can be but I just don't feel like they really see me as much as they think they Like what what what are they not seeing
05:32:41
Lindseythat you would want a guy to see? I guess just that it's okay that you can also be intelligent and pretty. Most of the time they just expect me to be a ditz all the time and then when I actually say things or talk about my interests I'm really into robotic
05:32:53
Lindseyengineer for example. So when I start talking about stuff like that it's like a oh actually like you know like they might just minimize it. They won't say no but they'll minimize my interests
05:33:03
Lindseythat are not tied to like appearance or modeling because of that. So just kind of a lot of minimization not being taken seriously in certain ways but that's why I'm so up front on day one cuz I can
05:33:15
Lindseypretty much weed out a guy like that pretty quickly so I don't waste my time. The guys I actually stay with are obviously the polar opposite but I do um get that experience a lot unfortunately most of the time. Would you say modeling
05:33:28
Lindseyis like a majority of your life and your identity? No. What other things? I'm like my probably my social media but I'm mostly a writer so Oh okay. Oh I haven't heard you talk
05:33:40
Lindseyabout that once. I mentioned it you just didn't ask any questions afterwards. No no no I'm a philosophical writer so I release content like pretty much about like the human emotions the human experience and also just encouraging
05:33:51
Lindseyothers to also be okay with authenticity within their own personal lives as well as how to cultivate joy from within. Where did you learn all this? You just sound like it's I don't know. I mean I don't know I'm just What sounds like
05:34:04
Juliarehearsed [laughter] so much. There are there like is there one or two schools of philosophy that really resonate with you like that align with you? That's it. Quakerism my belief system. Oh okay.
05:34:15
Lindseyphilosophy like a school of thought the way you think. No I wouldn't follow anybody else's way of thinking or being. So it's your own school of philosophy that you write? Yeah pretty much. I wouldn't want to write about other
05:34:26
Juliapeople's ideas. I'd rather talk about mine and see who gravitates towards it. Yeah it's your mind and your ideas but if you're talking about philosophy Yeah but philosophy doesn't have to be academic that's what I'm saying.
05:34:40
LindseyIt doesn't have to be academic. Philosophy I mean philosophy existed before academia even existed so as I said I do that. So yeah I just don't see the reason to
05:34:50
Lindseystudy somebody else's. I'd rather just do my own thing you know. I don't want to like study another philosopher I'd rather become my own one essentially. Wait what's your zodiac
05:35:00
Veronicasign? Scorpio. Ooh I love Scorpios. I'm a Cancer we're both water signs. Water signs? I don't know. All I know is I'm a Scorpio. Scorpios are cool like
05:35:10
Lexiemotions. Yes. I like I looked into like I only look into zodiac signs if like I'm talking to a guy oh Do you have a story about like before your current boyfriend like
05:35:27
SPEAKER_01I well I haven't Like does anybody remember the notes that they sent? No. Um oh my god. Wait was it about a beach? The beach? Oh I guess he wants I don't know if he's talking about
05:35:38
Veronica[clears throat] this story. Yeah like I don't remember what I said. I didn't even tell any I don't think I mentioned astrology but I do love it so much. I honestly I didn't really put that much answers on mine.
05:35:52
Lexi>> [laughter] >> I don't know. Cuz you put a lot of experience in there girl. It was like talk about your past dating experiences. Oh my god I was like what do I put here? Yeah I didn't Some guy like I went on this date and this guy
05:36:04
Lexionly ate raw meat and I was like What? Raw meat? Yes I hope he's not watching this. So what that's weird. I've seen people and he was telling me that eating vegetables was unhealthy for me and we were like and he was literally just eating raw
05:36:17
Leximeat on the the date and I was like what the hell is going on? Red flag. And he was like it's better for you like if you cook it it's bad and I was like what? I was like just let him do what he needs to do I guess.
05:36:30
LexiHe only eats raw meat and milk that's his diet. That's wild. [laughter] At least you'll avoid the parasites. Go around one slice or two? Um one. I'll take two. Can I get one
05:36:40
Brian Atlasplease? Two. Okay Tiffany one one two. One. One two. Just one. One. One one. Can I get some more water too please? >> [laughter]
05:36:53
Veronica>> What do y'all usually like who do you usually date like like looks? No I mean like career wise. Bro I don't even know. I know I'm like I don't know either. Yeah I've seen all over no one has jobs.
05:37:06
LexiReally? Like they have jobs but they're like all like side you know it's like they date trading. Tik Tok So talk ads, right?
05:37:17
LexiAll that kind of stuff is all in Miami. Like I swear no one has normal jobs. No, for real. Same with LA. Like No one works, but I do prefer a guy with a stable job though. I feel like more people
05:37:30
Lexiwork than Miami, but it's like it's like half and half. Cuz people in like the Midwest, like I'm sure I don't What do you consider the Midwest? >> No, girl, in the south. >> South, sorry. I'm really bad. I'm really scared for like the geography. But like
05:37:42
Veronicayou guys actually like work, right? Like I feel like everyone works. I work in a warehouse. Yeah. [laughter] >> I'm from Detroit and like I grew up working since I was 15. What did you do? I was just in the restaurant. Same. Like
05:37:55
Veronicaserving and stuff. So would y'all date a dude that was serving at 15? Well, my dad like he's always been in the restaurant. >> he got you in. Yeah. I don't think that was legal, but that's good that's good for you. >> Yeah, I mean I worked at like a Tropical Smoothie. That was my first job when I was 15. Like behind the counter and
05:38:08
Veronicastuff. >> Yeah. I worked at a Tropical Smoothie Cafe. Yeah, I don't anymore. Thank you. Since I moved out here. Thank you so much. Yeah, I do miss it sometimes. Like Yeah, I know. Just to talk to people. Cuz I
05:38:20
Mariastarted working at like 16, 17 as well. Yeah. What do you guys say a guy that worked a blue collar job? I've never dated one, but I would date one. What is a blue collar job? Like manual labor? No. Why? Cuz I just feel like they're
05:38:33
Veronicaprobably gone a lot, right? >> Is there one without any pepperoni on it by any chance? If not, it's so good. I like people I know. He's like, "Bro, you don't eat meat?" Of course.
05:38:46
MariaAnd he's probably tired when he comes home, right? I mean I'm sure he is. That's why like I mean I don't know. Blue collar could be anything with like construction to like Why? Why? Why is it bad for him to come
05:38:59
Lindseyhome tired if you're there to take care of him? I've met are not happy with their lives. They wish they were And I just prefer guys who are happy in their own life and their Oh, so the guy So the guy staying at
05:39:12
Mariahome while their girl goes to work is happy? Oh, no, no, no. I'm saying he has to be happy in his own individual life. But you don't think blue collar Oh, blue collar. Maybe cuz they're busting their ass all day and not making enough money.
05:39:24
LindseyExactly. Oh, yeah, we should just all be yeah. So that's my point. Like I don't want that because it does impact somebody's like feelings and life and they bring that to their home. I It doesn't It's
05:39:37
Lindseynot about the actual job. If I met somebody who was blue collar and I felt like they were really happy doing that, it'd be different, but I just haven't met any yet. So, you know,
05:39:47
Lindseyuntil I do, then the answer is going to be no. Mhm.
05:39:57
VeronicaThis is really good. All right. Yeah, I feel like I should probably date a blue collar man and switch it up a bit. I usually unfortunately date like a drug dealer or rapper and Oh my god,
05:40:10
Veronicagirl, what? I mean I don't seek it out. It kind of just finds me. It just comes to me unfortunately. Ooh. Damn. Yeah, I should probably find a man
05:40:21
Veronicathat's like Good? I mean they're they're not bad people. Well, their choice of decisions are. Yeah, sometimes their decision making is pretty bad. I mean the musicians aren't
05:40:32
Veronicabad, but like, you know. Um maybe I should switch it up a bit. Branch out a bit, you know. So what would you like him to be doing?
05:40:43
JuliaI don't know. Like maybe a blue collar man would be cool. Girl, date like the trades. A plumber, an electrician. They make good money. It's a really secure career to go into now cuz
05:40:55
Julianot men not a lot of men are learning how to work with their hands. Um if anything ever breaks at the house, they'll fix it for you. >> Yes. And you know, you're so right. Yeah. I think it's hot.
05:41:08
Laetitia>> [laughter] >> My stepdad is blue collar. usually date. I mean I'm a mountain I'm a mountain girl and I always like blue collar jobs. Like
05:41:20
LaetitiaYeah, I mean my first boyfriend was like working a little bit on the like we work on ski resort or live on ski resorts. So like any job in the ski resort. I was a
05:41:30
Laetitiaserver my a lot a long time. >> Serving? Yeah, and then I worked on the ski resort as a lifty and then my ex-husband was a groomer. So he was driving get um Like my first
05:41:42
Veronicajob was an elementary school teacher. I graduated early at 16. Then I moved to Oh, I loved it. Yeah. I That's why I love kids so much. It's okay. She'll probably bring another one. No, it's okay. It's okay. I don't need
05:41:56
Laetitiait so bad. It's so good. It's fine. I might pick off the pepperonis. Yeah, pick them off like it's huge. I'll go to like vegan First job was an elementary school teacher?
05:42:05
LindseyYes. A virtual um English as a second language. Uh It's a lot of fun. Huh? How old are you? 26. Oh, dang. Oh, I did a lot of [ __ ] I've lived like 7
05:42:17
Juliamillion lives in one. Cuz I was like you said you didn't go to college. So it couldn't have been like a like a No, it was a full-time job. I I'm No, it was accredited. It was a massive
05:42:29
Lindseyfacility. International, >> Mhm. At the time they didn't care that much. Wait, what? That doesn't make sense. >> cuz of my extracurriculars and my grades, but you know, they accepted >> sense. I'm just telling you what it is. Like
05:42:41
Lindseythat's what I did. It was a lot of fun. And most of my like clients were actually Asian, which I guess doesn't really surprise me because like out there they have a lot of schools and facilities to teach the
05:42:53
Lindseychildren English. Yeah, I did ESL. Yeah, so yeah, so that's pretty much what I would do. And um I don't know. I just remember it being so fun. Sometimes it got tiring though cuz I have to say like apple over
05:43:04
Lindseyand over again. Does anyone else have bottled water? Thank you. Mhm.
05:43:14
VeronicaIt's okay.
05:43:19
LexiYou're welcome. Oh my god. Wait, can I have water? Thank you so much.
05:43:31
LindseyWhat are you saying? So we need you, Brian. I know. I'm like we're not the host. >> [laughter] >> Thank you so much. So what grade did you teach? It was young elementary.
05:43:44
LindseyI do teach some adults though too every now and then, but um they just put me a lot with the children cuz I love kids. I still do a lot of work with children even without like a normal person job. I
05:43:55
Lindseyused to run a daycare. Oh, yeah, I did a lot of work at Oh, at your house? >> Yeah, I had an in-home daycare for a while. Yeah. That sounds awesome. I had a daycare like I loved it. I had a lot of
05:44:05
SPEAKER_01different jobs. I love kids so much. That's so cute. Yeah, I'm like Huh? Bro, you realize you guys are on a [ __ ] podcast? No one gives a [ __ ] ABOUT THIS [ __ ] PODCAST. >> [laughter] >> WE DON'T DO THIS. THIS IS NEW. BRO,
05:44:19
LindseyYEAH, BUT IT'S LIKE YOU BROUGHT US HERE. You're on camera. Like what? Yeah, but this is not a daycare. No one gives a [ __ ] Yeah, but I don't care what they care about. I don't know what they care about. You're on a [ __ ] podcast. Damn. Yeah, but it's not my podcast. Like I step away
05:44:31
Lindseyfor a [ __ ] 5, 10 minutes and it's Yeah, I know it's not your podcast. >> [laughter] >> Right, so there's If you're not here asking the questions. Don't expect a lot of non-podcast having people to know what to do on a podcast.
05:44:42
Brian Atlas>> Well, it's about having a conversation. >> We are having one. One that would be To me it's entertaining. Can I ask you a question? If [laughter] you're in a If you're out with a group of 10 of your friends and one of those girls, she's
05:44:54
Brian Atlasreally she's your best friend and you're just talking to her and you're talking about, "Oh, do you know Billy Bob?" and you're talking about and none of these other girls there know who Billy Bob is. They don't know who Edward is. They
05:45:06
Lindseydon't know Isn't that kind of rude to the other women? I mean Usually they fill in the context, so no. We always So I personally think if I'm in a group of people and
05:45:19
Brian Atlasand I'm not like this is obviously I'm not talking about the podcast now, but if I'm hanging out with a group of people, I'm not going to just talk Say there's three of us. We all know each other and there's one outlier. I'm not going to be like talking about
05:45:31
Lindsey[ __ ] he doesn't know. Okay. I don't know if that makes sense, but I mean it does. I just don't think it pertains to this situation. I don't know who they are. I can't see anything. I don't know what they're talking about. I don't know.
05:45:44
Lindsey>> she was a teacher and never had a degree and I don't believe that. Which is fine. You don't have to. I don't really care. >> [laughter] >> That's I know and that's okay. I don't really mind. I mean I don't need somebody else to validate my life's
05:45:56
SPEAKER_00experience. If I did, I'd probably be way more insecure. All right, hold on. I'm sorry for some of these miss TTS. Hold on. Totally not fat game I've donated $200.
05:46:07
Brian AtlasJF5, where did these models meet their unattractive partners for science? >> [clears throat] >> Typically in school. A lot of them are still in school. >> on that. Mr. Fuco, I see your super
05:46:19
Brian Atlaschat. So I was away from the computer. Um it's coming up. It's below the threshold though, so I see your message though. I'll I'll tell Andrew. I'll tell Andrew. Thank you, totally not fat gamer. Um I will
05:46:32
Brian Atlas>> [snorts] >> I appreciate the TTS. All right. Yeah, dude, you should have You can send me a DM I guess. I will bring it to Andrew's attention. Um all right. Let's see. Let's get trying to blast through the notes.
05:46:46
Brian AtlasUh how tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date? I'm 5'9" and I said 5'10". What about you? 5'2". I would say 5'10". That's not what you put here.
05:46:58
Brian Atlas5'10", yeah. You wrote you're 5'2" and you wrote 6 ft. Mhm. Uh okay, but the question is what's the minimum
05:47:11
Brian Atlasheight of a man you would date? So if it depends on the guy I mean if they're really really really hot, I don't care. I'd date him up. Okay, what about you Brooklyn? Is it
05:47:20
BrooklynBrooklyn or Brooklyn? Brooklyn Do you go by Brooke? No Okay Brooklyn 5'7 and 5'9 5'7 I think I said 5'8
05:47:31
LindseyYeah, what about you? I'm 5'9 but I think the shortest I've ever dated was like 5'6 or 5'7 But I don't really know You wrote I don't know what's my minimum Yeah Bro literally
05:47:43
Brian Atlasso guys get this we have a series of five questions at the bottom here she her answers are as follows I don't know I don't know depends on mood not sure Yes absolutely
05:47:58
Brian AtlasYeah that's just the truth You know I think in order to have a good emotional conversation you need to actually be able to Well we don't talk about stuff like this >> articulate yourself beyond I don't know bro it's the vibe You don't know what I'm
05:48:10
Brian Atlas>> model you're the your profession is the epitome of superficiality what are you Yeah but my conversations are not that But you just proved to literally what I was saying earlier >> I prove literally what you were saying? >> Cuz I was saying I get stigmatized based
05:48:22
Lindseyoff of that but now I mean like in my actual dates like I don't even talk about any of these type of things not even with my friends so I mean this is the first time you guys have asked me these questions >> conversation? I mean you're asking about
05:48:34
Lindseydating preferences that to me are very superficial nothing has to do with like an actual person's character or feelings or nuances it's very like you know Cringe Yeah so let me ask you a question
05:48:46
Brian Atlasa woman who wants to be a stay at home wife and she's traditional and she wants to have three kids can financially speaking wouldn't it be
05:48:57
Brian Atlasa good [clears throat and sighs] idea to date a guy who has the finances to I'm not saying she's a gold digger but you're still what I feel like I'm just young enough to build with someone so >> are you? 26 But I'd rather build with
05:49:10
Brian Atlassomeone >> Okay but this is this is something that women should be it's not superficial women should be to some degree concerned about a man's ability to provide in a relationship I don't
05:49:22
Lindseythink that's superficial But you're not talking about ability abilities are different from actual numbers and heights and criterias and weights and all these things like that's all surface
05:49:34
Lindseylevel of a person I don't like dictate things off of just that If I met someone who doesn't earn in my ideal price but I really like him and I think he's an incredible person with a really great future that I can see myself in I'm not
05:49:46
Brian Atlasgoing to discredit him simply because of his finances >> That's great so if we're talking about general principles here as a man as you become more successful
05:49:56
Brian Atlasas you as you make more money as you improve in your career that tends to make you more attractive to women
05:50:07
Brian AtlasYeah so I mean you can cope all you want about you know oh it's all about the vibes bro and look again I'm not saying women only look for money I'm not saying that but
05:50:18
Brian Atlasyeah if you improve your money more women find you attractive So and okay all right What are the other superficial things
05:50:28
Lindseyyou dislike? I already talked about it like weight eye color hair height those things to me are surface level I wouldn't none of those are deal breakers for me which is essentially what I'm saying
05:50:42
LindseyYou think it's superficial for somebody to care about somebody's weight? Yeah What if that's nuanced and deep? Then no but you're just saying like [clears throat] generally speaking I don't think so Let's say it's not even
05:50:56
Brian AtlasI mean let's say it's not even about necessarily the aesthetics of it it's like what does this potentially say about the person? >> my point that's my I'm lenient You know you have to have concern for your partner hey they might have health
05:51:09
Brian Atlasproblems because they're morbidly obese they're 400 pounds are they going to die at 40 at 50 are they going to have health problems are they going to have you know kind of issues so I I don't think it's superficial but Well that's
05:51:22
Julianot what how I look at it so What about you? [clears throat] I'm 5'4 and I said 5'5 Okay what about you? 5'8 and I said 6 feet >> Okay what about you? I'm 5'7 and I said 5'6
05:51:35
Brian AtlasAll right so you won't date a guy who's 5'10? Not anymore No Okay >> quickly no >> No I understand um
05:51:47
Brian AtlasOkay so even if you you know even if you meet a great guy >> I don't care I said 6 feet I said no >> [laughter] >> What do you want me to answer? All right that's that's fine people can
05:51:59
Brian Atlashave their preferences um Let's see here does anyone pick the bear? Would you rather cross paths with a random man or okay
05:52:09
VeronicaVeronica why do you pick bear? I mean it was low key kind of a joke but I do feel I do feel afraid low key when it's just me and a
05:52:21
Brian Atlasman walking down the street To the point you pick a bear then Hm? To the point that you pick a bear over a man encountering a a bear? No it was it was just a joke I just
05:52:34
Brian Atlaswanted I don't know I thought it was funny I guess So what is your actual position because if it's bear I'll engage you in the conversation if it's man I'm going to move on
05:52:45
Brian Atlas>> I'm going to change my answer to No I would not pick the bear Okay All right let's get into disagreements I don't know if anybody wrote any
05:52:57
Brian Atlasdisagreements but I know some of you had some disagreements in your notes I can look them up or somebody can just give me the prompt
05:53:09
Brian AtlasAnybody? All right I will do the leg work here okay let's go to Hold on No
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Brian Atlas[clears throat] Maria you said that you love the show and you also hate it the show is cringe Not not you Brian well sometimes you But mainly the girls are whatever they
05:53:33
Mariaare That's fair any elaboration there? I mean it's pretty much what it is yeah a lot of the girls that come on
05:53:44
Mariahere have like totally absurd point of views and I don't agree with them at all um I don't know
05:53:55
MariaOkay you said you did van life for three years Yes Were you dating your boyfriend for those three years? >> Yeah Okay so you guys were doing van life together or separate? No together
05:54:07
Mariaand we were together for like I don't know a while before that too and then like had this goal and like built out the van actually he built out the van for me or for us but yeah then we like traveled for like three years
05:54:19
Brian AtlasAnd You in your notes you further write that your you also you mentioned your relationship got rough and you this is where you got into the specifics of the attempted cheating I
05:54:32
Brian Atlasguess you said you drove halfway across the country to meet some dude then turned around when you're three hours away because you saw the billboard that says [laughter] don't commit adultery damn I know right see I'm halfway a good
05:54:44
Mariagirl Had you not seen the billboard do you think you would have gone through with it? >> Maybe I was like God's talking to me >> [laughter]
05:54:56
Brian Atlas>> Have you ever cheated on him properly though? No Okay never you said marriage is a bad deal for everyone why is that? Well just Doing it by the law it's like I don't
05:55:08
Mariaknow God doesn't say you have to like be married by the government it's like actually in the Bible it says for man to like take him a wife not like go get married and sign some papers and
05:55:21
MariaI don't know I guess that's it Okay Yeah I mean I don't want to get married so I mean It's not like a big deal to me like okay like me and Luke like if we never got married I'm not like heartbroken or that
05:55:34
Brian AtlasI don't like need to be married cuz it's like we kind of like already are you know You wrote that dating is not always easier for men if you're a cute girl you will literally have so many guys try to
05:55:45
Mariaget with you tell you anything and lies how how is a bad e supposed [laughter] to know who's a real one these days? Yeah like dudes will literally say anything to girls and case you like only
05:55:57
Mariaknew that cuz I was like messing around you know but yeah I feel like guys are full of [ __ ] a lot and will say anything to try to get in your pants or take you out on a date