ALL RAGE QUIT & KICKED OUT?! HATER Came To DESTROY Brian?! HØE PHASE = GOOD?! | Dating Talk 287
Date: 2026-03-23
Duration: 9h 38m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Julia(guest)
SPEAKER_04Lindsey(guest)
SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_07Laetitia(guest)
SPEAKER_08Chris Love(guest)
SPEAKER_09Maria(guest)
SPEAKER_10Lexi(guest)
SPEAKER_11Veronica(guest)
SPEAKER_12Brooklyn(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:11
IntroAll guests introduce themselves. Lexi reveals findom operation with male manager.
01:35:00
Key MomentBrian: do sex workers deserve chivalry? Sparks central debate.
02:14:00
QuoteBrian: 'Women do jack s---. YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING.' on what women bring to dating.
03:17:40
Key MomentMaria drove across states to cheat, turned around at 'Don't commit adultery' billboard
03:43:00
ControversyBrian tells Maria's boyfriend Luke he should dump her
06:47:00
ControversyVeronica cries and rage quits during weight rejection debate
06:51:00
ControversyLindsey confronts Brian and is kicked off - second rage quit
07:08:00
Key MomentJulia's toxic ex: flew out another girl, got her Korean name tattooed on his ribs
08:16:00
Key MomentLaetitia discusses sex addiction history and 3-year celibacy journey
08:47:00
OtherChris Love can't name Canada, continents, or what a nickel is worth in trivia
Topics Discussed
00:00:11
Guest Introductions and Findom
Lexi (18) does findom with male manager making $10K/mo. Brian questions whether it constitutes fraud/sex work.
00:48:40
Relationship Status Round
Chris Love has 12-13 man roster, 5 dates/week, fake boyfriend arrangement. Maria 12 years with Luke. Laetitia divorced, celibate.
01:35:00
Chivalry for Non-Traditional Women
Brian argues sex workers don't deserve chivalry. Women can't articulate what they uniquely bring to dating.
03:15:00
Maria's Heroin Addiction
10-year heroin addiction. Nearly cheated driving across states. Turned around at 'Don't commit adultery' billboard.
04:04:00
Self-Ratings and Looks
Several rate themselves 10. Brian gives 4-6.5 ratings.
04:16:00
Julia's Racial Dating Preferences
Julia (Korean-American) not attracted to Asian men, prefers white men.
05:13:00
Minimum Income Requirements
Lexi $120K. Chris Love $400K-$20M. Maria $50K. Lindsey 'I don't know.'
06:35:00
Weight Rejection Debate / Rage Quits
Veronica cries and rage quits. Lindsey confronts Brian and also rage quits/kicked off. Two walkoffs.
07:08:00
Julia's Toxic Ex Story
Ex flew out another girl day Julia moved in. Got other girl's Korean name tattooed on his ribs.
07:14:00
Hoe Phase Debate
Julia argues hoe phase can be empowering. Laetitia says her promiscuous past wasn't actually empowering.
08:16:00
Laetitia's Self-Improvement Journey
Former sex addict, celibate years working on herself. 'Married herself' 3 years ago.
08:47:00
Rapid Fire Trivia
Chris Love can't name Canada as country north of US. Brooklyn excels.
Transcript
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01:58:24
LindseyAnd is that fair? I would say no. Now again I think if you don't tell them first then >> No, well, I mean But if you tell them before you go on the date that's a bit different.
01:58:36
Brian Atlas>> Well, no, even if she discloses, hey, just letting you know, I'm a sex worker. We're you're talking about something different now. She should disclose that she's a sex worker Mhm. just out of respect to them because some men that's a massive I mean
01:58:50
Brian AtlasWell, we would know they're going to know already. Well, for some people most people they don't tell them. Huh? You meet on the dating app? Yeah. Yeah, so most people don't say that though.
01:59:01
Brian AtlasI does Wait, so how would they if you don't Do you put stripper in your
01:59:09
Brian AtlasNot all people. I don't think you should assume that people will always Google uh the person.
01:59:18
Brian AtlasI mean >> [clears throat] >> No, no, no, no. No. On the dating app. Under your job, be like stripper. Okay, you can
01:59:32
Brian AtlasWhat What makes you more money? What makes you more money?
01:59:39
Brian AtlasOkay. But regardless of what your secondary job is, uh you could first off on the dating apps you can list multiple jobs, I believe. So, and you could also just tell them
01:59:52
Brian Atlaslike if it's not listed on your bio, you could be like hey, just letting you know, I'm a stripper. I don't know. Um
02:00:04
Brian AtlasBut what if you want You do acknowledge that for some men being a stripper is a uh a deal breaker? Like some
02:00:13
Brian AtlasRight, but so why waste Like I'm almost I'm not even totally thinking of it from the male perspective. Wouldn't it save you time? Like imagine you go on a date with a guy and then you like tell him on
02:00:25
Brian Atlasthe date or after the date, hey, by the way, I'm a [ __ ] stripper, and then he's like, oh, I'm not interested anymore. Seems like it's a waste of time for you. Like I'm a busy person. I don't want to like go on a date with a
02:00:37
Brian Atlasgirl and she finds out something about me or I find out something about her that is a deal breaker. Like I want to know.
02:00:54
Brian AtlasSo, okay, what's the point of going on a date? To what end? Like a guy Like I could, for example I'm not particularly inclined to have a one-night stand. I find them [ __ ] pointless.
02:01:06
Brian AtlasBut Well, okay, so why are you going on the dates? Like what is the It seems like a massive time waste for you. You're not looking for a boyfriend.
02:01:20
Brian AtlasSo, you're leading the men on then. That's even worse now. If you What dating app What dating app are you on? Okay, so on Bumble, doesn't it say
02:01:32
Brian AtlasStop, stop, stop, stop. Stop. On Bumble, doesn't it say you can put what you're looking for? It can be like something casual, um not sure, looking for relationship. What do you put there?
02:01:47
Brian AtlasMeet up. You don't put You put casual. be dating someone right now. I just I'm in my fun era. Is it really fun to like be on a date
02:02:00
Brian Atlasto be on your dating app and like coordinating with like 10 different dudes just to go on one dinner date with them? Like to I don't know like It seems like a waste of time.
02:02:17
Brian AtlasLike it Me personally, it would never occur to me to go just get dinner with a woman and never talk to her again. Like I'm
02:02:28
Brian Atlaseither moving towards a relate Like the intention is uh relationship. Now For me, yes. But I mean, she is not even
02:02:38
Lindseyhaving sex, allegedly. Like so Is it actually fun to Is it actually fun fun to go on I'll be right back. You guys continue. So, what
02:02:59
LaetitiaAnd it's not a waste of time for you.
02:03:11
LexiThere's concerts, there's like celebrity
02:03:23
Lexione or two times? You just like you get disinterested? Oh. Why? Okay. Okay.
02:03:40
LaetitiaOh, okay. Okay. Yeah, why not?
02:04:04
Laetitiadecide what we want. And play accordingly.
02:04:11
Chris LoveHonestly, as long as there's communication
02:04:16
Chris LoveI tell them The morality part that
02:04:25
JuliaWell, I asked you have any of these guys been like, I want to I want to like be exclusive
02:04:33
Chris Lovethe right thing to be like.
02:04:38
LaetitiaYeah. As long as there's honesty and open transparency, then I mean, you're not hurting anyone. Yeah, and I think we make a lot of like, especially in those statements and all of that. It's just like we feel I feel
02:04:50
Laetitialike we are putting all the men's and all the women's inside the same boxes. And it's like, well, we are all so unique and different. Like how can we say that men would rather do that or women would rather do that or we deserve
02:05:01
Laetitiathat or we should do that. Yeah. Yeah, like I tend to agree with you on the answers. I'm just like there's nuances to life.
02:05:19
LaetitiaBut so >> [sighs] >> You might sacrifice for a man, too. It's like, well, if you meet the right guy and he's like, well, listen, like I don't mind about your past, but I do mind you keeping going with it. Like if you want a like a relationship with me,
02:05:32
Laetitiawould you be able to stop what you're doing to stay with me? Yeah, like some men might not like it as you
02:05:40
Laetitiaas a girlfriend your his girlfriend doing so meanwhile you are with him.
02:05:50
Chris Lovecheating. Yeah, I only one person if you agree with that. really committed in dating. But if you're just having fun, then who gives a [ __ ] Yeah, what's wrong with that?
02:06:05
Brian AtlasUh okay. I don't know, man. It just seems like a really raw deal for men that Okay. I don't know, maybe if I frame it like
02:06:17
Brian Atlasthis. If a man is going to act in a traditional way, should the woman also act traditional?
02:06:28
Brian AtlasYes. Does that seem fair? I mean, it seems basic, but But so what I'm seeing and what I'm
02:06:35
Brian Atlashearing is a woman can be Bonnie Blue having a hundred thousand dicks ran through her and I got to be traditional? I got to be
02:06:48
Brian Atlasa gentleman? I got to be chivalrous? You don't have to.
02:07:00
LaetitiaSo They could be chivalrous with their ladies. They should be So, should they deserve to have a traditional lady or should they deserve another sex worker? Like
02:07:15
Brian AtlasIf it goes for woman, then it goes for men, too. Like what would they What would they deserve? Well, I'm This gets into another really interesting topic is
02:07:24
Brian Atlaswhat do women do actually? Like what What, if anything do women do? What is the expectation
02:07:35
Brian Atlasthat is uniquely placed on women to do? Because you say, well, what about the male strippers, Brian? What about the male porn stars? So, okay, tell me the thing that women do that we can have the
02:07:47
Brian Atlaswomen stop doing for the male sex workers. Stop doing for the What do you mean? News flash, I'm going to get [ __ ] crickets because women do jack [ __ ]
02:08:00
LaetitiaYou don't understand the question. No, you don't do anything. YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING. YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING.
02:08:10
Brian AtlasI'M HYPER TRADITIONAL, so I do the house stuff, so. anything. Women don't have to do anything. Hold on. You do need to meet more women.
02:08:20
Brian AtlasYou got to understand what I'm saying. Yeah, articulate to me if Articulate to me what a woman can or should do uh I think can is a better word. So, okay, I
02:08:31
Brian Atlasget I get when all of you are 6 months deep into a relationship, then you'll make him a sandwich. Then you'll cook for him. Then you'll cook for him. Then you will uh
02:08:42
Brian Atlasyou know, [laughter] help clean his house, maybe, even, who knows. Then you'll do things for him. Once you're in the relationship, but there's that you women have expectations
02:08:53
Brian Atlason us right away. My question to you is, what can men expect from women right away? >> To bake them something. Yeah, I'm like I'm so different. >> Not one of you bakes me [ __ ]
02:09:06
Laetitiaanything. You should have brought cookies. >> make you feel like you're the center of attention. >> To make you feel the center of attention, to make you feel like you're the center of attention, to make you like Woah, woah, woah. What? What? Hold
02:09:17
Brian Atlason. That's [ __ ] crazy. It's you're completely reversed. Women have that expectation. Women want to be the center of attention. Women want to feel like princesses. >> just some people? What I wanted to do
02:09:29
Laetitiaand what I was going to do, I am telling you what I was going to do. I am telling you as a tradi- like Saying as a traditional woman I would say I have respect for you. I would like admire you. I would like give
02:09:42
Laetitiayou what you want, ask you what would like I'm not saying I'm ready to do anything. I'm just saying like I would my intention is on you. I am not going to see someone else. I'm not going to talk to someone else. I'm not like I'm just
02:09:54
Brian Atlasgoing to make you feel that you are the center of my world. >> Mhm. That's not really bringing anything >> I'm not dropping my life on you. >> this out. Check this out. Love that. Center of the world. She's dating 10 dudes at the [ __ ] same time. How the [ __ ] >> going to stop. She's saying that she's
02:10:08
Brian Atlasgoing to stop. She's saying that she's going to stop. She's saying that she's going to stop. >> stop stop stop. Hold on. >> dating guys Hold on. So, center of the world, she's dating 10 dudes at the same time. She's going to
02:10:20
Brian Atlas>> too. That's my first like But hold on. Hold on. So, so then should it be the case that she doesn't get her dates paid uh dates paid for until she's exclusive with one guy?
02:10:32
SPEAKER_01Well, she's honest with him. He has the right to say yes or no. And then after that he decide what he wants to do. >> her standard is if you don't pay for the date, it's over. She's not going to continue seeing the guy.
02:10:45
Brian AtlasWell, for now she's just having casual relationships. >> Okay, so can a guy do do that same leverage trick on her? Okay, um if you want me to pay for the first date, all that you can't go on any dates. I'm not the one who's asking. I've had dudes say
02:10:57
Brian Atlasthat. I've had dudes say that. Type of stuff. >> [laughter] >> So? Man should be >> You okay. Hey, I want to take you out on a date, but here are my conditions. If
02:11:09
Brian Atlaswe're going to date each other, there can't be other dudes in the picture. If you're seeing other dudes, it has to be a wrap. You can't be like from our first date onwards, you can't be going on other dates. Mhm. That's not what I mean. I'm saying if I'm in a
02:11:22
Chris Loverelationship with someone, I'm not going to keep seeing other people. Right now it's just casual fun, you know. >> Great. So, men should not pay for dates until they're in a relationship then. Men should pay for the date if they ask the girl. Do you Have you ever asked a
02:11:33
Brian Atlasguy out on a date? No. And you're 28 years old. So, it's like great that that's a great little trickery that you've done there. >> I don't want to be a man. Right, but
02:11:42
Brian Atlasthis the argument that you forwarded is whoever asks should pay for the date. This conveniently ignores the fact that
02:11:51
Brian Atlas99% of all dates that ever have been and ever will be, 99% of them are initiated by men. That's how it should be. >> So, when women right, but when I would
02:12:02
Brian Atlasbe willing to accept the whoever asks should pay thing if women asked men out at comparative rates. Maybe it doesn't
02:12:12
Brian Atlashave to be 50/50. It could be 40/60. Men ask out 60% of the time, but women will do their share too. Then I could get behind whoever asks pays. But when women have the privilege of just
02:12:24
Brian Atlassitting back and letting men come to them and waiting to pick from the men that uh pursue them, then not whoever asks should pay. It's uh it ignores this this component of
02:12:37
Brian Atlaswomen women don't initiate. Women don't approach generally. Women don't initiate. Women don't ask men out for dates at least in the same at the same rate that men do.
02:12:49
Brian AtlasAnd so, when women start asking men out uh at 50/50 rates, then we can talk about whoever asks should pay. Because as a woman, you can never ask you've never asked you're 28, you've probably been on 100 plus dates. You've
02:13:02
Brian Atlasnever asked a guy out in your life, right? You've never paid a date on your your life. I mean I paid for >> If we put you if we put you in a male
02:13:12
Brian Atlasbody, you would be a 28 year old virgin. If we put you in a male body, you've never [ __ ] a woman ever. What? Okay. So,
02:13:24
Brian Atlas>> [laughter] >> what I'm trying to say here is as women, you can be passive and men still come. Men have the burden of initiative. Men have the burden of pursuit. Now, I'm not saying sometimes a woman you might see a guy you fancy.
02:13:38
Brian AtlasYou'll shoot your shot. You'll slide the DM. Women do do that. But the experience for most men, I'd argue most men, especially average men, like an average woman
02:13:50
Brian Atlasbro, average women if they want to, they can [ __ ] a lot. Mhm. But you take an average guy, the guy who works at Walmart, like the the chick that works at Walmart, the chick that works at Chick-fil-A, she could be a
02:14:02
Brian Atlasmassive [ __ ] The dude at Walmart? That guy's not [ __ ] Maybe a little bit. But he's not like [ __ ] the same way a woman who works
02:14:13
Brian Atlasat Walmart can be [ __ ] The point I'm trying to make here is uh if men if things stayed the same in terms of uh
02:14:25
Brian Atlasif men acted like women, where it's like I'm going to sit back and let men come to me, whether that's on internet, dating apps, or in person. I don't force them. No, I know. I know the men do it willingly. I'm not saying you force
02:14:36
Brian Atlasanybody. But if I was a man and I did what you do, which is not initiate and you wait for men to come to you, and you put a man in your body, you would be a 28 year old virgin.
02:14:48
Brian AtlasNot necessarily. No, what? If you're an average guy, maybe >> if I go to a bar, me, or you could put another guy in a bar,
02:14:59
Brian Atlashe could go out 20 nights, no women are coming to talk to him. No women if I go to a bar, go to a party, I'm just kicking it with my drink. I
02:15:10
Brian Atlascould even be vibing. Oh my god, this [ __ ] dog [ __ ] music is so good. No women are going to be like what's up? Bro, want some [ __ ] No,
02:15:20
Brian Atlaswomen don't do that. That's correct. Women don't do So, like as a guy you go out to these environments, or it could even be a dating app. I go on a dating app and I don't send the first message.
02:15:31
Brian AtlasI don't Women sometimes send the first message. I believe women on dating apps have You're on Bumble, right? Question, do they It used to be on Bumble. I haven't been on dating apps in like years.
02:15:43
JuliaOn Bumble, the woman had to message first. Is that still the case or is it No. So, the man Okay, that's fine. The one app where women had to message first they still can do it. >> a specific prompt. Like they can't just message you and say what's up. They have
02:15:56
Juliayou have like a few prompts that if they want to reach out first, they can answer those specific questions. Men can reach out first and women can reach out first on Bumble now. Women can reach out first with whatever they want. Hey, but if a
02:16:08
Brian Atlasguy wants to reach out first, he has to choose from a list of like Oh, wait. That's kind of [ __ ] but Or like you have Wait, so hold on. Wait, what? So, uh they there's like a prompt like what's
02:16:20
Brian Atlasyour favorite color? Or like caption this picture of my dog or something. And men So, women can just send a hey and not answer a prompt. Men have to answer a prompt. Mhm. That's
02:16:31
Brian Atlasso [ __ ] funny. I think it should be the I wonder why. Well, in any case, I remember when I I was on Bumble before they made the switch where only women could message first.
02:16:43
Brian AtlasAnd women the the one app where women have to take the initiative. This is what women did on Bumble. Hey. How's it going? And then so I call it
02:16:55
Brian Atlastoken initiative. And then they immediately push back the entire initiative burden and conversational burden
02:17:06
Brian Atlasright back onto the man as if you had met on any other dating app. So, it's super [ __ ] stupid. Um it's still stupid though because now the men can't just I mean saying hey is a bad way to open on a dating app, but that's besides the point. Where the [ __ ] were we?
02:17:20
Brian Atlas>> [laughter] >> We were asking about dating lines. Dat- dating uh Oh, yeah, yeah. Who should who should pay or whatever? Um Yeah, I don't know. This idea yeah, I guess I was saying Oh, no. Wait, we were
02:17:33
Brian Atlastalking about Oh, yeah. If I'm in the club, no girls are coming to talk to me. You you as a girl go to a club, guys will come and talk to you. Uh you could have like a girl with 300 followers, a thousand followers
02:17:45
Brian Atlason Instagram and she's going to get bombarded with DMs. Uh you could be super clouded up as a guy and in order for a guy to receive as many
02:17:55
Brian AtlasDMs as a girl with like 700 followers on Instagram, you need to have like a million followers on IG to get the same level of attention
02:18:09
Lexithat a woman with a thousand followers has. So, yeah. Women don't really shoot their shot like that. Agreed. Okay. >> [laughter]
02:18:18
Lexi>> Just in general? Yeah, in general like like it's last, but like for me when I see someone I'm interested in, I'll ask for the information or something. >> Well, how much how many times have you
02:18:32
Brian Atlasdone that? Probably like five five, six times. Or more, honestly. And how successful are you? 100%. Yeah, so that's the other
02:18:41
Brian Atlasinteresting thing. So, men like I think for a a man who's a [ __ ] killer I know I don't mean literally, but he's got [ __ ] game and he's running
02:18:52
Brian Atlasthrough girls. 10% success rate. That guy's a [ __ ] stud. 10% success rate. A woman, bro, y'all women have dating on [ __ ] easy mode. Y'all don't get rejected, you don't
02:19:04
Brian Atlasreally deal with reject Well, deal with rejection in different way, but uh even when you do take initiative, which is incredibly rare, your success rate as women is so astoundingly high.
02:19:17
LexiAnd then also guys will be mostly polite. Yeah. >> Guys will be like If you approach a guy, he'll like remember that [ __ ] for That's the thing. Am I raising their ego? But honestly, that's good. That's good.
02:19:30
Brian AtlasI mean >> women provide for men. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Confidence. Yeah. But a man can go through like the amount of attention you've received probably in Miami, you've like you you compare that to an
02:19:42
Brian Atlasaverage guy, like your first day in Miami, you probably received more attention in one day than an average guy will in his entire life. That's the difference.
02:19:54
Brian Atlas>> of sad. That's the difference. But so what I'm saying with her is if a man acted like her, he would be a [ __ ] virgin. Because men have to like we can't
02:20:05
Brian Atlas[clears throat] sit around. Men have to be proactive when it comes to dating. We can't just wait for women to come to us because women don't come to us generally. Now, if you're a [ __ ]
02:20:16
Brian Atlastop-tier guy, women will slide into your DMs or they might approach you, but most men are not top-tier guys. So, what about the other 90%? I don't know. I think men should put more like effort into >> [clears throat]
02:20:28
Lexi>> What effort do women put in? >> Effort in their looks and stuff. Oh. No, I'm You're talking about looks. I thought you're talking about like effort. I'm talking about looks cuz it cuz it's probably easier to become like top 10% man than it is for women cuz
02:20:41
Lexithere's so many beautiful women in the world and there's not as many like, you know, like you see like a really attractive guy, he probably, you know, has I don't know, so many girls, so many girls. Like I'm just going to use Clav
02:20:53
Lexias an example because I'm I know he has his platform and everything, but you see him and like girls will flock to him and like if I don't know, like it's
02:21:04
Lexidifferent. It's different. Uh yeah, I mean, do you want to like [ __ ] him or something? >> No. No, I was Would you date him? >> No, I I've met him a few times actually. No. >> Did he try to [ __ ] her?
02:21:16
Brian Atlas>> No, he was just like he was a little bit rude, honestly. But it's Clav. A lot of guys who get girls like that
02:21:25
Brian Atlasare nonchalant. Yeah. He's just like be gone with you. Exactly. Okay. Uh yeah, I don't know.
02:21:35
Brian AtlasI look, here's my position. We were talking about her being a sex worker, being a stripper. She wants She deserves men paying for first dates. I think if you're not a traditional
02:21:48
Brian Atlaswoman, you don't deserve traditional treatment. I'm not saying you should Okay, I have a question. I have a question. Men should be nice to you. Men should be nice to you. They should treat you well.
02:21:58
Chris LoveBut some of these gestures that are traditional, paying for dates, chivalry, I don't think you deserve it. >> [laughter] >> So, let's say there was a disabled person, a fat person, and they're all women, whatever. So, you're saying they
02:22:10
Brian Atlasdon't deserve the same thing? Wait, what? Just because they're different? Um is the is the disabled person Is the woman who's disabled?
02:22:23
Brian Atlas>> It doesn't matter. They They They all deserve the same thing. Respect. Well, so okay, hold on. So, there's a distinction between respect and being treated well and specific acts of
02:22:35
Brian Atlaschivalry. Everyone should be treated well unless they're a murderer or like a rapist. So, a woman who's a sex worker, I'm not saying she should be abused, I'm not saying she should be treated poorly. She
02:22:48
Brian Atlasshould be treated If a guy's down to date her, he should treat her well. He should treat her kindly. He should But what I'm talking about again is specific acts of chivalry.
02:23:01
Brian AtlasAnd so, should she have her [ __ ] paid for? Nah. In fact, you probably earn more money than most these dudes. Like that's crazy. Like some Imagine a
02:23:12
Brian Atlas19-year-old sex worker who's making $100,000 a month. You're dating some guy in [ __ ] his in college and he's going to be able to [ __ ] pay for you? No, that's ridiculous.
02:23:25
Laetitia>> male sex workers and >> on the same level as me or up. I wouldn't Okay, well, And the men sex workers don't deserve the sandwich, don't deserve the center like the center of
02:23:35
Laetitiainterest, don't deserve the chivalry from the woman then? No. Like they don't deserve all of that? If they're a male sex worker? Just because they're work? Just Yeah, cuz it's like well, yeah,
02:23:47
Laetitiathere is one thing to put your job in the past and there is one thing to keep it going, but if like I don't know, I'm not advocating for those people, but it's just like it seems silly to me to not like They're still human beings, they're still male. Like if you're
02:23:59
Laetitiaattracted to him, you want him, you want him in your life, and he's like compromising with you and not having that job anymore, like his past doesn't really matter at that point and it's like well, does that person then doesn't
02:24:11
Juliadeserve either like any like good stuff from the woman? I mean, I think I mean >> I'm fine with that. Respect and kindness and not
02:24:22
Juliabeing violent and abusive. That's like a universal everybody one standard. I think chivalry and paying for dates and flowers, like that's between one person and the other who are exchanging those
02:24:34
Laetitiathings. I think it's between human and human and not towards what you do or what you don't do. There is woman that are not Honestly, like the first 20 years of my
02:24:45
Laetitialife, I was not deserving of a chivalrous man. Like now I have changed a lot. I have worked on myself. I understand what a traditional woman is and it's like yeah, now I think I I'm
02:24:57
Laetitiastill in progress and I'm still I still have some work to do, but damn it, I didn't worth it before and yeah, now I do and I am working very hard on myself to be worth it even though I have never
02:25:08
Laetitiadone sex work and I I don't think it depends on your job, but who you are and Let me frame it like this. Maybe this is going to be the best one. I failed I think I failed
02:25:19
Brian Atlasin properly convincing or being persuasive on the subject. Does someone who is disloyal deserve loyalty?
02:25:29
MariaNo. No. No.
02:25:35
Brian AtlasLike how about this? Maybe this is good. >> [laughter] >> You guys know like Andrew Tate and Justin Waller, maybe you saw that [ __ ] dog [ __ ] Netflix documentary. Uh some of these guys, you know, they're
02:25:48
Brian Atlasuh open on their end, closed on the woman's end. Do they >> [sighs] >> Hmm. So, it's like they're not loyal to the
02:26:01
Brian Atlaswoman. They're sleeping with other women. Now, they've disclosed this. They're not like cheating necessarily. Um Do you think they deserve the woman's loyalty? No.
02:26:13
Brian AtlasIf I was the woman, no. But some of these women Some of these women put up with it. They're like they don't So, but that that was my point. So, even though you might say that these men who they won't give their loyalty to the
02:26:24
Brian Atlaswoman, but expect loyalty in return, you would say they don't deserve her loyalty. They still get it in some instances. That's what I'm trying to get at here. So, yes, they can still get it,
02:26:36
Brian Atlasbut we're talking about do they deserve it? In this case, um mapping that onto the previous uh conversation,
02:26:46
Brian Atlasdoes a non-traditional woman deserve traditional treatment from a man? I think you can use this loyalty example
02:26:55
Brian Atlasto understand the perspective of Well, hold on. If if loyalty is a performance, if loyalty is behavior, I am performing loyalty.
02:27:07
Brian AtlasI am I am loyal. I am being loyal. I am doing loyal. Could this then not apply to the behavior and performance of traditional roles? So, if I'm going to be
02:27:18
Juliatraditional towards a woman, ought not she be traditional back? Yes. Yeah, I mean, I agree. If I was a man,
02:27:31
Lindseythat's what I would say. >> what I'm saying. If I were a man, yeah. >> That would be my That would be like my boundary >> Yeah, that's pretty much what I said, yeah. As a man, makes sense. But I'm traditional, so I can't relate, so. Are you?
02:27:45
Brian AtlasVery. Okay. >> [laughter] >> Uh let's see here. Um As soon as she returns, we're going to get into
02:27:54
Brian Atlasuh some of the topics, but first we have uh let's see here. Uh I want to do a segment called um Did you show these, Tiffany?
02:28:07
Brian AtlasDid you show the orange one? No, I actually looked at it. Bro. Okay. Do you remember what time it came in? Um no.
02:28:19
Brian AtlasYou got to be on top of the Wait, this Tiffany, that came in Oh, that's [ __ ] >> [snorts] >> Tiffany, that came in 20 minutes ago. Did you show it? No.
02:28:31
Brian AtlasOkay. You It's right there. Okay, whoever whoever that orange super chat is, let me see if I can see it here. All right.
02:28:44
Brian AtlasPolitical overtones. The entire point of her dates are to use her pretty privilege to scam men into paying for her meals. Just pull the the reds, keep them like keep them here. All right, can somebody read this, please?
02:28:56
Lindsey>> [sighs and gasps] >> The entire points of her dates are to use her pretty privilege to manipulate men into paying for her meals. $1,000 spent on her meals a week that she doesn't have to foot the bill on.
02:29:10
Brian AtlasUm >> Good point. I don't use men to buy food. I can buy my own self food. Thank you, Political Overtone, for the $100 super chat. Appreciate it. I mean, he does raise an interesting thing.
02:29:21
Brian AtlasWomen will sometimes do something called a foodie call where you have no genuine interest in the guy or very very low interest. And you'll either use him for the free
02:29:33
Brian Atlasdinner or maybe he's inviting you to an experience. It doesn't necessarily have to be dinner. It could be like, "Let's go to a concert." But you Oh, the concert sounds fun, but you're not so sure about the guy.
02:29:46
Brian Atlas>> [gasps] >> So, not all women do that, by the way. Um just to be clear, and I don't think it's even the majority of time you go on a date a woman is doing this. But it is a phenomenon that men have to be wary of. So,
02:30:00
Juliashe I don't know what the point is, though. Like I said, I'm just having fun. You know what? I think she does deserve it. She deserves it in the way it is. A guy just taking her out on a date doesn't want to settle down. If they're
02:30:13
Juliaokay with that, then yeah. >> not valuable. I'm not leading them on or offering it as like, "I want to settle down with you. I want to take care of you." I would say she does it because of where she like she's not kind of she's
02:30:24
Brian Atlasnot trying to be traditional. Are women owed their dates being No. paid for? Well, do they deserve it? No. >> Cuz it's the same thing.
02:30:36
LaetitiaI don't think that's on a woman. That's like it depends on the woman. >> Yeah, exactly. It's too many nuances.
02:30:51
Brian AtlasOkay, so tell me then, what should men do? If you're not going to bite on deserve or not deserve, what should men do? I want them to just be stable and
02:31:02
Brian Atlasreliable, you know? Someone who's honest and consistent. You guys, going around the table, should men pay on first dates? No. I mean, did I say yes? Yes.
02:31:16
LexiWhat? >> [laughter]
02:31:21
Brian Atlas>> Okay, whatever you circled here, just say yes or no. Okay. Yep. I think so. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Not necessarily.
02:31:33
Brian AtlasNo, but it's nice. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Okay. So, that's two nos and six yeses.
02:31:43
Brian AtlasSo, from there we can get into uh the expectations placed on men. What are the expectations we can place on women? To be loyal, to be affectionate. >> on.
02:31:56
Brian AtlasReally quick here. So, what I'm asking for is unique unique. So, we would both agree that both men and women should be loyal. Both men and women should be affectionate. >> Financial literacy. No.
02:32:08
Brian Atlas>> That's what I would say. Hold on. What what uniquely and specifically should women do? Financial literacy. Most women don't have that. A majority of people
02:32:20
Brian AtlasOkay, a unique thing men should do is men should pay on first dates. Only one person can pay for the date. Therefore, it's unique to the men. Both
02:32:32
Brian AtlasAnd Of course, men should be financially literate, too. You would think, but a majority of them are not. Yeah, but this isn't this wouldn't be something that is
02:32:43
Brian Atlasunique to women. I just don't know most women who know anything about finances that well. I don't that you're not understanding the question.
02:32:51
JuliaWhat should you uniquely women do? Unique. Be engaged. Um have a good conversation. I mean, well, what do you mean by
02:33:04
Brian Atlasunique? Wait, hold on. Everything you've listed the man should do, too. >> [laughter] >> Everything Be engaged, be listening, look good. The man should do that, too. I mean, cook like make their On the
02:33:16
Juliafirst date? Oh, on the first date? Yeah, first date. I mean, no. What should women do? Or even earlier on. What should women do? I mean, I like transparency about trajectory. I don't think either people are required
02:33:28
Laetitiato do anything on the first date. Yeah, exactly. I'm like it's just no. Men are Men are expected to do things on the first date.
02:33:47
Brian AtlasThat's not the standard for the majority of the women on the panel. you are asking us individually I know that. But Okay, that's great. So, if your position is women should not have to do anything, men should not have to do
02:34:00
Brian Atlasanything, this doesn't apply to you. This applies to the women who do say men should. The question thus, what should women do? Be like Okay, if you're going on the
02:34:12
Lexidate and you enjoy the date, I think that the guy, if he enjoyed the woman's company, should pay if he wants to take things further. Wait, sorry. The The man should pay? If they enjoyed the company of the
02:34:25
Brian Atlaswoman. Like if if you go on a date >> Did you hear the Repeat my question back. You No, I I I literally asked what should women do, and your response is men
02:34:36
Lexishould pay for the date. I'm saying that the girls What? the girl should be engaging. The man should also be engaging. Yeah. So, I'm asking what
02:34:47
Brian Atlaswomen should uniquely do. I think maybe like an emotional opening. A lot of guys don't have the space to talk to >> You want to [ __ ] talk about her trauma on the first >> Yeah, I mean, I do. Yeah. Well, usually
02:34:59
Brian AtlasI talk to him for a while before So, okay. The The woman uniquely trauma dumps on the date, and No, not trauma dump. No. That seems like a negative for the
02:35:10
Brian Atlas>> a difference between trauma dumping and talking about emotions. You think a heterosexual man wants to talk about emotions I mean, by experience, yes. Oh my god. Usually I
02:35:22
Brian Atlastalk to them for a while first You're You're dating like a liberal soy boy. No, I've even dated like super conservative. No, I don't date models. I hate models. Oh, yeah, conservative men really want to talk about emotions on the first date.
02:35:34
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, because they don't have the outlet to do that anywhere else. Okay, give me give me a an example of how a man a conservative man that you've been on a date with opened up to you emotionally. Well, usually it's like their history,
02:35:47
Lindseytheir family is more so conservative, not them. So, they just open up. No, like they have like a very highly Republican family. That's what I mean by conservative. So, they by default kind of have an influence in that way. But
02:36:00
Lindseyusually that's what they talk about is how they had to grow up with non-traditional values. >> I can't role-play a nuanced conversation on the spot. >> [laughter] >> I It's individualized to each guy. I don't know what their thing is. How do
02:36:13
Lindseyyou What's the word I ask. Okay, ask me. I just ask them. I'm like, "Well, how does what you do make you feel? Like are you happy in life? Does this truly make you feel satisfied?" But the guys I date
02:36:25
Lindseylike that, so you know, I'm I can't complain about my dating life. Or the guys I've dated at work. I mean, I've had positive experiences, so Yeah, honestly, there's there's been
02:36:37
Brian Atlassome guys that trauma dumped to me, too. Like right when I first meet them. What should The question will be repeated again. What should women uniquely do?
02:36:48
JuliaWell, that's my answer. I don't know the answer. Nothing. Nothing. Oh my god. Oh, [ __ ] I could say I think a lot of men think that if he pays for dinner,
02:37:01
Brian Atlasthe woman should put out. Yeah. No, disagree. You don't think Oh, no. Well, hold on. Let me Let So, okay. I think I think that's wrong. Mhm.
02:37:13
Brian AtlasNow, do I don't know if it's the majority of men, but I would grant that yes, there are men who definitely view view things in that sort of transactional way. That's like
02:37:26
Lindseykind of creepy and weird, and I don't like that. Mhm. Um that's weird. Yeah, so I'm like are we generalizing or individualizing our answers? That's why I keep getting confused. Generalizing.
02:37:39
Brian AtlasCuz I don't know how to generalize. >> most men when they go on a date like are like, "Well, I paid for the date. You're going to have to give me some pussy." Like that They're not thinking that. It's not what I date, you know? Surprise.
02:37:53
Brian Atlas>> [laughter] >> I don't know. I can only speak from experience. Okay, so just to be clear, you guys Look, I'm So, there's a difference between men thinking it, and then there's a difference between men who are
02:38:03
Julialike overt Oh, well, uh I paid for the date. You got to suck my dick. Like that's what More than once it's happened. >> happened. I'm sure I'm sure it's happened.
02:38:19
Julia>> [laughter] >> And I'm the first I'm the first to stand by you and say that's [ __ ] cringe. >> So, when I was dating and on the dating apps, when you know, the few times I did
02:38:31
Juliaagree to go on a date, I said, "There's one caveat. We will split the bill. I don't want some awkward like, 'Oh, no. Like I'm good to get it.' No, no, no. I just want that to be known cuz because I was in these situations where guys just
02:38:42
Juliafelt like they were entitled to some sexual thing because they paid for my dinner. I don't want I don't want to be in that situation. So, 50/50 on the first date. If it goes well enough that I want to go on a second date and you'd like to pay for that second one, I I'm
02:38:56
Brian Atlasopen to that. >> So, but it's interesting. So, um now we're sort of back at deserving. Some men feel as if they deserve that. And again, I agree with you guys.
02:39:08
Brian AtlasThat's [ __ ] weird. I don't think it's wrong for a man to want like of course you guys are women are attractive. Men want to sleep with you. But when it turns into
02:39:20
Brian Atlasuh they're going to get all bent out of shape because you don't want to go home with them or if they're even overt about it like oh, but I they start [ __ ] crying and like oh, but I paid for the dinner. That's [ __ ] cringe. That's
02:39:31
Brian Atlaslame. That's weird. Like don't do that. However, it's a bit of a diversion. I want to get right back to what should women do? Let's not go back to men bad. Let's go to what should women do?
02:39:46
Brian AtlasIt's like I already gave my answer. >> we should just be ourselves. There's nothing Yeah, I mean like >> Men should just be Men should just be themselves too. What do women do? Well, I already answered it from my perspective. >> Which is what? The opening up emotionally? Wait, women should
02:39:59
Lindsey>> [clears throat] >> But that would be That's something both of you do. No, usually they don't know how to start it. Most men are not emotionally intelligent enough to know how to communicate healthily. So, I
02:40:10
Lindseyusually do typically lead the way of emotional intelligence. But again, like they are That's what they like. That's what That's I said I have really positive experiences in dating. I don't
02:40:21
Lindseyhave any toxic past or anything. So. >> both ways. They don't start it. No, like I'm the one who brings it out. So, without like any other spaces to express themselves, if I'm the only outlet
02:40:31
Lindsey>> out? Questions. Asking them direct questions about how their life is, what they do, where they want to go in their lives, like you know, deeper questions. >> ask that too? >> No.
02:40:43
Brian AtlasNo. Can't they ask it too? >> Yes. Okay. So, do you think They can, but most men just don't. >> so do you think if you didn't do that that
02:40:54
Brian Atlaslike before you induced the man to open up emotionally, he was like really turned off by you. He wasn't attracted to you. He didn't want a second date. He didn't want to [ __ ] you. But the moment you induced him to
02:41:06
Brian Atlasopen up emotionally uh
02:41:13
Brian AtlasI can only go based off of experience, okay? I don't know about generalization. >> like if I was on a date with and she was like wanting to have like a really deep convo right away and she's
02:41:25
Brian Atlaslike, "So, Brian, tell me about your most traumatic experiences." I'd be like >> not what I asked. Uh shut the [ __ ] up. >> [laughter] >> I don't ask that. That's like super different. I ask them about what they do. I'm being dramatic. >> Yes, very dramatic.
02:41:39
Brian Atlas>> [laughter] >> If I was interested in the woman, no, I don't think I'd tell her to shut the [ __ ] up. Uh but I mean that more rhetorically. I would be like uh look, we're just having You would not say that. You would No, I
02:41:52
Brian Atlasdon't ask about trauma. That's really intense. >> be like I'd be like, "Hey, look. Um I like you. You're cool, but I don't really want to get into that. We just met. Like let's talk about something else." >> Okay, yeah, but that's an extreme
02:42:04
Lindseyquestion. I don't ask them about trauma. I ask about their life. Like their day-to-day, what their interests are. >> what men do on dates. They ask women about their lives. >> No, not in the same way. Not from an emotional standpoint. They just ask you what you do.
02:42:16
Lindsey>> How does it make you feel that you're a plumber? Yeah, pretty much. They and they open up. I swear. Like I I date incredible guys. I cannot complain at all. I have nothing bad to say about the guys I've ever dated, the
02:42:29
Brian Atlasones I've been on dates on. Like I don't I've never done a situationship, so I can't complain. >> Men got to roll out a $200 dinner and in exchange the woman's going to ask an
02:42:40
Brian Atlasemotionally loaded question about his future. Where do you see yourself in 5 years? And how does it make you feel to know that inflation is [ __ ] and uh you're not going to be able to buy a house and you're probably not going to
02:42:52
Lindseybe able to afford like raising kids and stuff. How's that make you feel? I don't ask about any of those things either. >> [laughter] >> But as I said, I have really great experiences. So, I'm not I guess you're not my target demographic, but in my personal life I do very well with
02:43:04
Lindseydating. So, uh clearly they like what they are getting. I mean, you know, I I usually talk to the guys for a while before I even go out on a date with them anyways. So, you know, I mean Well, yeah, you should talk to somebody first.
02:43:17
Brian AtlasWell, yeah, I'm like Well, so a lot of people will just meet and go on a >> Okay, so besides the she induces an emotional conversation, uh besides that, what what should
02:43:28
Brian Atlas[laughter] women do? What should women do? Do you guys [clears throat] not even know? I mean, I'm just saying like >> a traditional mindset that I give. So. >> Wait, wait, wait. How about this? Let's
02:43:39
Brian Atlassee this. Let's see this. List out List out all the things men should do. On the first date? Uh let's say, you know what? Let's not say just the first date. Why don't we say um
02:43:51
Brian AtlasIn a relationship. Let's do early on. So, first three dates and then maybe we can distinguish and say in a relationship too.
02:44:02
LexiSo, distinguish those. Early on, before girlfriend, and then during relationship. Um if he was talking to other women, stop. Um
02:44:13
LexiUnfollow every girl. Just kidding. Um no, that's fine, I guess, if they're friends. Um That's about it. And early on just stop talking to other girls. You're
02:44:26
Brian Atlas>> If you're getting to know someone Let me bust out the questionnaire here. I feel like this is going to be difficult. Unless here, let me go really quick. Give us two two three things quick. Um I feel like he should have
02:44:37
Brian Atlasself-respect. For people and how they treat others. >> like things men would uniquely do. That is. A lot of guys are douchebags these days. Well, women also can do that. >> Yeah, but if you find someone with the
02:44:51
Brian Atlassame >> Okay, here. I'll just never mind. Let me I reclaim my time. Lexi, on the questionnaire you circled the following to which you agree. Men should pay on first dates. Men
02:45:04
Brian Atlasshould provide protect. Men should be chivalrous. Husband should be willing to die protecting you. Take the bullet. >> That's but that's like later on. Yeah, not like the first date. Well, she It says husband, so clearly Husband, but
02:45:17
Brian AtlasI do think you would have an expectation that your boyfriend of 3 months would protect you. Yeah. And if he was a [ __ ] and a coward, you would lose attraction for him. Yeah. Yeah. If I'm getting like
02:45:29
Brian Atlasbeat up, like I would want him to like >> Yeah. Well, so I think that even though the charitable thing that I would say here is realistically throughout the course of one's life,
02:45:41
Brian Atlaswill most boyfriends or most husbands actually be put in some sort of life or death situation protecting their girlfriend or wife? No, I'd say most don't.
02:45:53
Brian AtlasHowever, there's another component that's a little deeper. You might not even be willing to date a guy who wouldn't be willing should the should the time should should it come to
02:46:05
Brian Atlasthat. So, if a guy's a coward or a [ __ ] regardless of any situation actually manifesting you wouldn't be attracted to him.
02:46:18
Brian AtlasHow would I know? You might not, but maybe for example, like he sees a rat. This is cringe. And he like jumps up on the chair and screams like a chick.
02:46:29
Brian AtlasOr uh you see him get his ass whooped in the fight. Or um he tells you. He's like yeah, you know I don't know. Maybe you've seen a video. I don't know if you saw this video. I
02:46:42
Brian Atlasthink it took place in Costa Rica. It was a couple months ago. This woman was getting her purse snatched and getting stabbed at the same time. And she I don't know if she was with her boyfriend, but she was with a male. And the male did nothing.
02:46:54
Brian AtlasWhile she's getting her purse snatched, getting stabbed by this guy with a knife. And the male is just standing I think it was the boyfriend. She survived. You can't tell me if you were about to
02:47:07
Brian Atlasgo on a date with that guy and you saw that video you're not going on that date. You're not dating that guy. You're like, "This guy is bitch-made." Yeah. Right. So, even if
02:47:18
Brian Atlasnever in the course of your entire life your boyfriend or your husband might never be faced with a situation where they have to physically protect you. May might never happen. But if they don't have the willingness or the capacity to
02:47:30
Brian Atlasdo it, it would be unattractive. >> Yeah. I agree. Right. So, that does come later on. Uh you said men should pay on first dates. Men should provide protect. Your
02:47:42
Brian Atlashusband should be willing to die protecting you. Brooklyn, men should pay on first dates. Men should provide protect. Husband should be willing to die protecting you. Maria,
02:47:55
Brian Atlasmen should pay on first date. Provide protect. Be chivalrous. And should be willing to die protecting you. Lindsay, men should pay on first dates. Men should provide protect. Men should be chivalrous. Veronica, men should pay on first dates.
02:48:08
Brian AtlasMen should provide protect. Men should be chivalrous. Leticia, men should provide protect. It's the same thing. Julia, men should provide protect. Men should
02:48:18
Laetitiabe Men should be chivalrous. So, I just don't like the should. Honestly, like if the should was out of the >> Okay, that's besides the point. What should women do?
02:48:33
LindseyThis is like SAT. Yeah, I'm like I just don't I can't generalize, so I don't know. I don't can only speak from personal experiences. So, They should make a home if there are children. Well, that's like all like
02:48:45
Lindseyafter the relationship, I'm assuming. >> date? Like, I don't know. Like, what would you say? I don't know. In my head, like, the talking stage is like the trial period to a relationship. So, I typically try to show up like how I would in a relationship starting in the
02:48:58
Lindseybeginning. I want them to see what it would be like if they were to date me long-term so that they can fall in love with who I am. So, I'm like and I expect, you know, them to be themselves. So, that's the only expectation is to mirror that energy.
02:49:12
Brian AtlasSo, that's a good question you asked, Brooklyn. What should The man has to answer for what women should do. [laughter] Women can't even tell me. Really quick, before I give my answer,
02:49:23
Juliajust throw it out there. Is there anything that women should do in a relationship? Yeah. >> Yes. What? >> Be demure, respectful. Like, don't be an embarrassment. Well,
02:49:34
Brian AtlasI feel like bring something to the household to finances. The demure thing is somewhat unique, but the other two things you listed, Julia, kind of go both ways.
02:49:45
Brian AtlasUm So, in a relationship, right? >> Yeah, what should women uniquely do? Um uniquely, bake. Men don't bake use usually. Uh okay. So, cook, bake, okay, sure. Clean?
02:49:58
Brian AtlasShould women clean? Sure, but they both should be clean. No, just the woman should clean. No. I think it depends. If it's a traditional relationship, then yes. It depends. It depends. If If I'm paying for everything and she's
02:50:10
Lexinot working, Yeah, she's absolutely absolutely Yeah, I'm doing laundry. I'm Yes. >> taking care of the kids. I'm cooking. I'm doing the traditional stuff. But, if we're both going to work, I feel like
02:50:23
Lexi>> a different Now, you're not in a strictly traditional relationship. But, yeah, that's like the stuff that's uniquely for a I guess a traditional relationship. Yeah, so I would say
02:50:34
Brian Atlasit's being submissive, deferring to his leadership. So, that means being a follower. If you want a man to lead, you have to be a follower. There's There's You can't get around that. What does like being submissive
02:50:47
Brian Atlaslike really mean? Yeah, so acquiescing to his wants and desires. If he tells you to do something, you do it. But, what like what would that be? >> that doesn't mean
02:51:00
Brian AtlasThat doesn't mean if I tell my girlfriend, "Hey, you see that bridge over there? [ __ ] jump off it." No. In that instance, you could be You could defy me. That means
02:51:12
Brian AtlasThat means deferring to me. It means letting me lead. It means don't question every single thing. Don't question me. Don't nag me. Don't henpeck me. Don't be
02:51:24
Laetitiaquarrelsome. Defer to me. Don't question me. If I'm leading you, right? What's the authority? It's not >> Yes, it is. What's the question? What were you tell What's the statement
02:51:38
Brian Atlasyou're saying? >> believe men in relationships should, if you want to Now, look, people can have any kind of relationship they want. You want to peg a dude, you want to make a guy a little [ __ ] [ __ ]
02:51:49
Brian Atlasthen fine. Be in that relationship and it can be all consensual and it can be negotiated. If you're a woman and you want to deal with a traditional man, then defer to his leadership. What's
02:52:02
Brian Atlaslike a statement? As long as he's not a piece of [ __ ] If you want Yes, of course. Can you give an example? Don't defer. Don't be some Yes, you should be The guy should be worthy. Yeah. >> should be deserving. [snorts] The guy
02:52:14
Lindseyshould be virtuous. Can you give an example? >> should have authority in my relationship. Like, what would you say? Like, I'm curious what do you mean like authority over? What you aspects?
02:52:25
Brian Atlas>> So, Yeah, yeah, an example would be Let me think of a good example. Uh here. I'm dating a girl for 2 years.
02:52:37
Brian AtlasAnd it's difficult because the type of woman that I would date that I would want to be in a relationship probably wouldn't do this to begin with. But, yeah, the thing is like
02:52:49
Brian Atlastypically like the type of people you find yourself in a relationship with, they're going to match up with you mostly Well, that's not always true because people get into relationships where things are an issue for the respective partners. For example, women
02:53:02
Brian Atlasend up dating guys with porn who are watch porn. Most women are not cool. I don't think men should watch porn. They shouldn't be gooning it to [ __ ] 100 chicks on Instagram. They shouldn't be following chicks. They shouldn't be liking their [ __ ]
02:53:15
Brian AtlasEven if they're single, they shouldn't be doing that [ __ ] That's [ __ ] lame. But, in a relationship, you're being disrespectful to your girl. You shouldn't be liking You shouldn't be liking Instagram [ __ ] bikini pics. You shouldn't be
02:53:26
Brian Atlaswatching porn. You got to save that [ __ ] for your girl. But, I think for example And it's difficult because I feel like the type of girl I would date, she doesn't party. She
02:53:36
Brian Atlasdoesn't drink. But, my girl comes to me. She would just She would already get it though, is the thing. But, I guess in the scenario she's like She's like, "Hey, Brian. I want to dress like a
02:53:49
Brian Atlas[ __ ] [ __ ] and go to the club with all my single girlfriends." And I say, "No." That's the end of the conversation and she's not going. That's the authority. Okay. Well, I guess your definition is
02:54:02
Brian Atlasdifferent. >> a guy and you want to be a strumpet, you want to go to the club and be a hood rat and do that [ __ ] some guys are going to be okay with that. A lot of guys don't
02:54:12
Brian Atlashave the constitution and grounding to ever tell women no. Yeah. But, I get what you mean. Apparently, it's abusive. It's Apparently, it's abusive to
02:54:22
Brian AtlasIt's considered controlling to some. Okay. Are most women happy when their man is liking Instagram models photos and going to the strip club? >> I'm traditional. I don't I don't go out. I'm not doing any of that stuff. So, I
02:54:35
Brian Atlasagree. >> So, So, look, you can look, I mean, I'm not going to physically prevent you. But, if you're going to go against me on this, you want to go to the club? It's just >> We're not going to [ __ ] We've been dating for 2 years? Back to the streets
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Brian Atlasyou [ __ ] go. Stop the cap. >> I did not mean to press that. >> [laughter] >> I meant to press this. Well, that's my finger slipped. Back to the streets she goes. Look, she wants to be She wants to do hood rat
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Brian Atlas[ __ ] back to the hood she goes. Like, you're not You're not moving in such a way that is relationship-minded. When we're talking about the man should
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Brian Atlasbe provide and protect. I believe a man's duty to protect a woman in a relationship isn't just from physical
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Brian Atlasthreats. It's not just the a burglar breaks into your house and you're going to shoot him or fight him or whatever. That's part of it.
02:55:28
Brian AtlasThere's other components. When a man should protect, the man has to protect the woman from her her own dumbass mistakes. The man has to protect the woman from
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Brian Atlasmaking mistakes that will be the ruination of the relationship. We need guidance. >> Men Men need to Listen. Hold on. Men need to lead. Men need to
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Brian Atlaslead in the relationship. And look, because a lot of y'all Men and women have been brainwashed. Mhm. Men and women have been brainwashed. It's okay to dress like a [ __ ] hoe. It's
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Brian Atlasokay to go to the club and get drunk and go over to some dude's house as for an after-party. If you're in a relationship, if you're a relationship-minded person, whether you're a man or a woman, you don't do that.
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Brian Atlas>> No, even when you're single. >> And so, as a man, I have a duty to protect the woman from perhaps her own mistakes. I need I have a duty to protect my relationship, our relationship. But, isn't that also her
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Brian Atlasjob? It's her job, too. It's I'm not saying Like, I'm not here to micromanage you. You should just get it to begin with. The other thing I need to protect a woman from,
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Brian Atlasand this is also protect the family. Say when we have kids, threats not just of body, but of mind. Mhm. I need to protect her spirit. I
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Brian Atlasneed to protect her mind. How is society How is media trying to propagandize her? Oh, the school system wants to trans our
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Brian Atlaskid? No. Home school? No. Oh. Oh, well, you want to send the kid to to to the school where the you know, they've got
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Brian Atlasall the [ __ ] the the school therapist is going to trans the kid? Uh no. Oh, you as I mean, I'd probably divorce my wife. Oh, you want to trans our kid?
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Brian AtlasGet [ __ ] I will I don't care if I burn through all my [ __ ] money. You're going to trans my [ __ ] kid? [ __ ] no. I'm going for full custody. I don't care if I burn all my [ __ ]
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Brian Atlasmoney. You're not turning my son into a [ __ ] woman. Yes. We agree. >> And so, I have a duty to protect my children. And look, I don't know a lot of the [ __ ] trans [ __ ] that's y'all.