Men INSECURE About Body Count?! NYC Gold Digger Has Roster Of SIMPS?! | Dating Talk #187

Date: 2024-08-14

Duration: 8h 20m

Guests

Brian Atlas

TTamara (Dutch Jessica Rabbit)>

VVivian (DT187)>

AAlexa (DT187)>

MMaddie (DT187)>

DDominica (DT187)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Maddie(guest)

SPEAKER_03(guest)

SPEAKER_05Isis Hong(guest)

SPEAKER_08(audience)

SPEAKER_10Lauren Kofi(guest)

SPEAKER_11Shane Smith(guest)

SPEAKER_12Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_14Tamara(guest)

Key Moments

IntroJaspachy introduces herself: 25yo Las Vegas content creator/OnlyFans

“Hi guys I'm just pachy I'm 25 I currently live in Las Vegas Nevada and I'm a full-time content creator streamer and I do only fan.”

IntroIsis Hong introduces herself: 27yo NYC software engineer/TikToker, born China, Korean parents

“Hi my name is Isis ... I'm 27 ... I do TikTok my username is Isis Hong ... I'm also a software engineer. I got a degree in Biochemistry and computer science. Born in China (Korean parents), moved to Seattle at 15, college at 16.”

IntroTamara introduces herself: Dutch Jessica Rabbit, 28, Netherlands, content creator/student

“Hi my name is Tamara better known as the Dutch Jessica Rabbit I'm from the Netherlands ... I'm 28 I'm an adult industry content creator and I'm also a student studying legal administration.”

IntroLauren Kofi introduces herself: 30yo singer-songwriter/model/actress, Nottingham/London, Blue Therapy

“I'm Lauren Kofi I'm a singer songwriter model and actress ... from Nottingham but I live in London age 30. Was on Blue Therapy.”

IntroShane Smith introduces himself: 37yo Utah comedian, ex-motorcycle club member

“I'm Shane Smith I'm 37 I'm from Utah and I'm a comedian. Grew up with stepfather in motorcycle club, got full sleeves and neck tattoos at 18. I am out.”

Key MomentJaspachy reveals she married at 18, divorced Marine husband after 5 years; he cheated with her best friend

“I am single ... my longest relationship was 5 years ... I got married at 18 out of high school. He said he didn't love me while we were married ... there was infidelity ... he cheated with my best friend.”

Key MomentTamara reveals she had labiaplasty; describes them as extremely large, painful, and brought photos

“I got [labiaplasty] ... they were dead big they removed on each side ... it looks like a dick when I wore a bikini that is how big they were ... I have pictures.”

Key MomentIsis argues Brian is selfish for not wanting marriage since he can get all benefits without it

“If you're selfish and can't convince you to do something unless there's a value I'm providing ... fundamentally if you're selfish you can't be convinced... the only way is if she's a billionaire.”

QuoteBrian states the only scenario where he'd get married: if she's a billionaire

“Yeah that's the scenario in which I'll get married ... if she's a billionaire I will marry her.”

Key MomentSelf-rating round: guests rate looks 1-10 (no 7s). Isis: 6. Jaspachy: 10. Lauren: 8-10. Dominica: 5. Maddie: 5. Brian: 5.

“Starting with Isis what... six. [SPEAKER_03]: five in the US two in European countries... six. [Lauren/SPEAKER_10]: in Texas I'm an eight but in California a six... I'm a 10 sometimes as a model. Brian: five.”

Key MomentIsis reveals she asked a man for a $2,500 Tiffany bracelet as condition for second date; he complied; later had threesome with him and his girlfriend

“He said what designer do you like I said I like Tiffany but I don't like silver ... Buy me something ... about $2,500 ... and that was my first and only threesome — with him and his girlfriend, on my birthday.”

ControversyBrian calls Isis a "certified gold digger" after learning about bracelet demand and roster behavior

“She is a certified gold digger. She grabs dude's dicks within minutes of meeting them but she claims to have a low body count. It doesn't really add up.”

Key MomentBody count round: Jaspachy ~30-40; Isis claims <10 (Brian disputes); SPEAKER_03 mix: 3 and <10; Shane declines (>11)

“Jaspachy: probably like 30ish which is very low for somebody in that ... does porn ... four of those are from this week. Isis: less than 10. [SPEAKER_03]: less than 10 / three. Shane: 11 ... I won't be saying [exact number] at all.”

Key MomentIsis reveals she measured men's penis size on first dates; had 9-inch experience; doesn't need men for orgasms

“I always know [the size] because I measure it ... I don't want men to fool me. He was 9 [inches] ... for someone so handsome he's really not good at sex. If he can't get me off I have my vibrator.”

QuoteIsis TikTok video read aloud: viral "if you wanted to you would" video about staying with wrong partners

“It's not that if he wanted to he would, it's that if you wanted to you would. If you wanted to find a man that treats you the way you want to be treated you would. The problem was never them, it has always been you.”

QuoteShane says he'd like to return for a deeper conversation about the porn industry

“I'd love to. I'd like to... I would love to talk more about the porn industry like in a fair question that I'm always doing.”

Topics Discussed

Show intro and announcements

Brian Atlas opens the show, standard platform announcements: Streamlabs, Twitch, merch, Discord, TTS triggers, BLM (Big Labia Matter) nonprofit joke.

Guest introductions (round 1) — name, age, location, occupation

All guests introduce themselves in order: Jaspachy (25, Las Vegas, content creator/OnlyFans), Isis Hong (27, NYC, software engineer/TikToker), Tamara (28, Netherlands, content creator/student), Vivian (18, Orinda CA, music intern), Lucy (19, LA, student), Alexa (21, Baltimore, OnlyFans/student), Maddie (27, Dallas, deaf thrift store), Lauren Kofi (30, London, singer/model/actress), Shane Smith (37, Utah, comedian), Dominica (22, LA, cosmetology student). Extended discussion of Tamara's Netherlands background, red light district school trips, labiaplasty.

Relationship status round

Brian asks each guest current relationship status, longest relationship, how long single. Jaspachy: single 2.5yr, divorced Marine husband (cheated with best friend), now celibate. Isis: casually seeing someone ~2-3 months, not yet had sex with him. Tamara: single (brief 2-month thing earlier); does not do one-night stands. Vivian: single ~9 months, on-and-off guy for 7 months. Lucy: single. Alexa: single ~1.5yr (ex had Grindr + another girlfriend). Maddie: relationship 1yr 2mo. Lauren: single 1+ year. Shane: married October prior. Dominica: single ~4 months.

Tamara's labiaplasty and OnlyFans discussion

Tamara shares she had a labiaplasty (labia were extremely large, caused pain). Brought photos. Brian's BLM (Big Labia Matter) nonprofit discussed. Shane defends all body types. Discussion of Tamara continuing OnlyFans until financially stable; Shane challenges whether she will find traditional man while doing adult content.

Marriage debate — should men get married?

Extended panel discussion on whether men should get married. Brian lays out financial/legal risks (prenup limitations, community property, divorce attorney costs). Guests attempt to convince Brian. Isis argues Brian is selfish; Brian says he would marry a female billionaire. Tamara argues marriage is about love and commitment, not fear of cheating. Jaspachy argues risks go both ways; references her military marriage experience. Discussion of taking husband's last name — split opinions.

Feminist/patriarchy questions

Quick round: who considers themselves a feminist? (none raised hands). Brief discussion of patriarchy in context of marriage traditions.

Self-rating round (looks 1-10, no 7s)

Brian asks each guest to rate their looks 1-10 (no 7s allowed), starting with Isis. Isis: 6. Jaspachy: rated herself 10 (oscillating). Lauren: 8-10 (model). Dominica: 5 in US, 2 in Europe. Maddie: 5. Others in SPEAKER_03 mix: 5-6. Brian: 5. Extended tangent on Jaspachy's 10 self-rating and whether she's the most attractive at table.

Will you look better in 10 years?

Brian asks each guest if they'll be more attractive in 10 years. Isis: yes to all ages until death. Tamara: yes at 38, maybe 48, no after 58. Lauren: same/slightly better for a few years then decline. Dominica: better at 32, then plateau. Brian gave himself 5/10; Shane says he was better looking when younger.

Musical chairs / panel reshuffle

Brief segment: chairs rearranged when Isis moves or leaves briefly. Show notes section begins.

Height preferences

Brian asks each guest: how tall are you and minimum height for a partner? Isis: 5'3", used to require 6ft but now dating shorter man. Tamara: wears heels, doesn't judge height if he has dominant energy. Multiple guests: 5'2-5'3" heights, minimum ~4'11 to 5'6". Shane: doesn't care about height in a partner. Brian: 5'7".

Pre-show notes: Isis Hong deep-dive

Brian reviews Isis's Instagram and TikToks. Isis's request for $2,500 Tiffany bracelet as condition of second date — she got it, and later had a threesome with him and his girlfriend (her only threesome). Panel debates whether this is sex work. Discussion of Isis's roster period (a first date every day for 2+ months). Brian calls her a certified gold digger; Isis defends authenticity. Isis outed her brother as gay on show (name: Tony). She mentions $200k/year income requirement for men.

Tiffany bracelet / gold-digger / sex-work debate

Panel debates whether Isis getting a $2,500 bracelet from a date constitutes sex work. Tamara says world is transactional. Isis denies it was sex work (sex came much later). Shane argues it's similar to sex work by analogy. Discussion of women having easy mode dating vs men's difficulty.

Body count discussion — does it matter?

Extended panel discussion on body count. Does it matter for relationships? Brian says men prefer lower body count. Shane: high body count affects how people want to date you (not inherent worth). Female guests push back — shame vs double standard. Body counts revealed: Jaspachy ~30-40; Isis claims <10 (Brian disputed); Others in SPEAKER_03 mix: "less than 10" and "3." Shane: declined, >11.

Insecurity about body count — men's perspective

Brian argues it's not insecurity to prefer low body count partners. Jaspachy accuses Brian of shaming women. Shane notes no man has ever wished his girlfriend had more partners. Discussion of hookup culture and whether it benefits women. Alexa discussion of ex-boyfriend (bisexual, had another girlfriend).

Adult content industry and relationships

Panel discusses whether women who do OnlyFans can be in monogamous relationships. Jaspachy says filming is professional, not intimate — boyfriend is consensual. Shane challenges what "commitment" means if partner films with others. Tamara adds perspective from her experience in adult content. Brian: girlfriend who does porn = she's cheating on him if he can't also see others.

Child support, abortion rights, and bodily autonomy

Brian frames asymmetry: women can get abortions, men always pay child support. Should men have legal paternal surrender (opt out of child support)? Extended back-and-forth with SPEAKER_03 guests. Tamara: Netherlands requires both men and women to register for potential draft. Isis argues forced military conscription is worse than abortion bans. Panel mostly agrees women should be drafted if they want equality.

TikTok reaction: Isis Show Season 1 and 2

Brian plays and reacts to Isis's TikTok videos. Videos about orgasms/followers, rotation-era sadness, men not getting her off, going to the mall hoping to see her ex, heartbreak vulnerability. Tamara and panel comment on authenticity vs performing for content. Isis defends truth-telling approach. Panel reaches rare consensus on one of her videos about staying with wrong partners.

Show wrap-up and final thoughts

TTS roast section (10 minutes, $30 threshold). Chat calls Isis "most despicable woman" and "CCP plant." Tamara and Brian banter about going on a date (he declines due to OnlyFans). Shane says he'd love to come back. Isis leaves slightly early. Brian does outro, thanks panel, announces next show Sunday 5pm Pacific.

Transcript

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Brian AtlasShane what about you more often you ending you ending it's me okay so I mean we've asked this question tons of times on the show women overwhelmingly end relationships so this idea that like

Brian Atlaswomen get more attached well how could that actually be true once it's not clear to me if men are actually commitment phobic once women do get

SPEAKER_08commitment women overwhelmingly end said commitments yeah exactly wow Robert Tanner donated two $0000 women are always more at risk in

SPEAKER_08the relationship you bring life into the world you are The Gatekeepers the modern laws are now skewed against men for women to become equal relationships

Shane Smithdestroy H yeah thank you Robert tenner appreciate it as far as men and women and how they handle breakups I think that men it's a sliding scale is is age

Shane Smithhappens so young men handle breakups way worse which is why we become insane and then we have positions that are anti- marriage and stuff and then as we get into our 30s women take those breakups

Shane Smithmuch harder cuz we were ready for the long yeah yeah and you're running out of time you know this kind of thing that's fair yeah uh anyways um the bow video I

SPEAKER_03guess we going back to that would you bow for your man let us bow is that like a normal thing that people do in relationships I've never bowed to anybody in my life so would you that

Brian Atlaslet's say he asked you to do it he showed you the video completely serious way yeah super serious he he saw that video on my podcast he's like oh I kind of like that I'd like my girlfriend to do that would you do it in like a

SPEAKER_03submissive uh however she did it no that CU they not into that you're not no into that okay all right Fair um maybe ironically but I mean like I said I'm

SPEAKER_03all these men I'm like you're oh sorry but um a lot of these like men that I'm dating I mean I'm open to dating a guy that is does make more money than me and all these like bread winner things and

SPEAKER_03stuff but it's like why am I being super like submissive to you like seriously sure when I mean a lot of these men I'm dating they're not they're they're bowing but their boyfriend is behind

SPEAKER_03them I mean I don't want them to Bow I don't I don't expect my man to bow to me I don't I'm you can just be a normal person I want to be equal to my partner mhm or okay yeah

Brian Atlasabsolutely I think I already answered absolutely I think it's so hot okay and then yeah I get that well this is this is for the ladies I would say yes

Shane Smithbecause I also expect him too if he wouldn't do it I would do it that's fair would you want your girl to bow to you would I want my girl um wait wait wait oh go ahead go ahead go ahead yeah sure

Shane Smithyeah I mean if that was how she was expressing like some sort of like excitement or love or whatever I think that's cute I like it making me smile I mean I like to be greeted like

Shane Smithif you get off I travel a lot of come home to someone I'm with and they like open the door before I get there and jump in my arms and give me a kiss that's like the American equivalent I like that yeah wait but so you would

SPEAKER_03expect you're married you'd want your husband to bow to you bow back yeah I mean not right then and there but I would expect him cuz I when I think of bow I think like oh only the woman is

SPEAKER_03bowing I'm like uh what's wrong with that I mean if he it depends the situation like if he's like hey bow right now because I'm telling you to M what's wrong with that

Brian AtlasI don't I don't actually see anything wrong with that no because what is wrong with that there nothing wrong with that she just think I don't actually think there's

SPEAKER_03anything wrong there's nothing wrong nobody my I guess I'm symbolic if it's more like on a like

SPEAKER_03a deeper level I would think of it that way but if it's just like a what's a bow sure if you're both bowing to each other it's like you're about to duel in a movie like what are you doing then just

SPEAKER_03get your swords out and go well was it is it like with the intention of like you are my inferior exactly what I thinking there

SPEAKER_03shouldn't be a power Dynamic if if you're in a what if your your life your partner God I'm so horny right now I would do it I said what would you do if

SPEAKER_03you're if your your wife over there your wife or girlfriend ask you to B A her oh would I do no of course no of course not but you expect her to bow from

Tamarayou men and women are different I a man who bow like I would want the a man I would I would I would be on my it's just the dynamic it's the dynamic I no I would not bow to her would you ask a man

SPEAKER_03to build something for you that's a good one if I needed help maybe if they had extra hands and knew how to what they were doing but here's a question here's a question for you I

Brian Atlascould do it myself then yeah so here's a question why is it that when men will have expectations of women those things have to be reciprocated but when women

Brian Atlashave expectations of men it's very rare that there's an expectation that women also reciprocate that

Isis Hongbehavior because the expectation we have on you is pretty small wait so but about B basic but what's the wait hold on

Shane Smithwomen's expect are small like pretty normal we want comp I don't know earlier you were like he has to make money he has to be funny has a good personality has to be bigger than three in I had a

Brian Atlasbrain fart I had a brain fart can you like repeat the question again uh so well it more it was more so of a statement uhhuh say say that well so okay I was saying that she was saying when I was like oh I would want my

Brian Atlasgirlfriend to do a little bow or something when she greets me she's like well would you do that back because there's an expectation there when men want things men also have or excuse me when hold on

Brian Atlashow's the framing here if a man wants something he has to be willing to reciprocate that to the woman if he wants it but if women want things it's not clear to me if there's an expectation that the woman has the woman

Brian Atlashas to reciprocate that for example if a woman wants a man to pay for First Dates well or will you pay for First Dates yeah that's really a rare uh reciprocal

Isis Hongexpectation I think your statement it's a one directional expectation statement is saying always I don't think that's true I think women wants certain things and men want certain things it's not

Isis Honglike it's not like oh you I you have to reciprocate and no but she's saying her her comment those kind of things you preach tradition that sounds like

Shane Smithtradition I don't really preach tradition I do but I I was waiting on like I feel like sort of I preach it a bit I think it's very telling the people who would bow and and

Shane Smiththe idea that if you wouldn't because you think it's demeaning says a lot about how you're interacting with the other sex and how you feel about them and how you allow them to feel about you because the fact that you instantly

Shane Smiththink of you bowing to someone as being somehow disrespectful or demeaning is like that never entered my mind for a second I thought it was like a sweet

Shane Smithsign of respect as opposed to like a demeaning thing to to submit yourself to someone is not to demean them that would be like if I was like oh I have plans today but my girlfriend needs me to help

Shane Smithher move or something and then I cancel my plans that's technically a submissive act but it's I'm not being demeaned because I love this person and I respect them and I'm giving them their due okay

SPEAKER_03I I guess I just think that's somewhat of a strange comparison like bowing if somebody asked me to bow to them it would just kind of throw me off a little bit I don't know that's

SPEAKER_03not needs man that's exactly where I was going I saw a comment it said B is a sign of respect in Asian culture that's probably very true that's not something

SPEAKER_08I've been exposed to it's not super normalized in America oh [ __ ] this [ __ ] gig Rob Tanner donated $101

SPEAKER_08champagne CH apprciate question if we have no tradition what objective truth are our relationships based on anything relative of the current time seems very

Tamaradangerous donated 1,000 Robert ten you are amazing actually you donate a lot seems very dangerous you are an amazing

Brian Atlasman something you are an amazing man thank you y all right uh Robert Tanner uh you're you're [ __ ] hold on let me play this

Brian Atlas[ __ ] to Robert Tanner He's a brave and a decent man he's a Pioneer appreciate it dude appreciate it um and also hold on let me play one more I'm a [ __ ]

Brian AtlasLegend you sir you sir you're a legend um how that happen last just to move things on a little bit here I do have to move things on from the bow thing but I guess here's my argument right is when

Brian Atlasit comes to this whole bowing thing and I'll actually Grant to you it's like it might seem a little surprising because at least in the western culture it's out of the norm yeah but in terms of the

Brian Atlasactual ask it actually takes really no effort from the woman but I guess what confuses me so like a guy could ask his girlfriend to do this or even a girl you

Brian Atlasjust start seeing and she might object to it for feminist reasons and by the way grid one I will ask your question here in a moment she might object to it for feminist reasons or H I don't want

Brian Atlasto what is that but like the same woman that will object to a otherwise benign innocent bow within 30 minutes of meeting a man

Brian Atlaswill suck his dick and let let her [ __ ] him um so I just thought that's I'm not saying that about you I'm just saying that thanks I'm not I'm just saying like the girl like girls who object to the bow

Brian Atlaswill [ __ ] a dude within 30 minutes of meeting them you'll literally let a man inside you with his pee pee with his penis but you won't just penis a bow I think it's weird that you sorry that you um like you don't want to Bow but you'll

Lauren Kofipay for his life like you're doing so much more for him where I'm just wait that's a really isn't it you let this with

SPEAKER_03my yourself with your I'm not proud of it either I think that kind of like the I said you hold on

SPEAKER_03Boom who wants anybody who wants champ thank you Robert I said the same thing kind of like with the I mean I'm not opposed to the bow I guess maybe an

Lauren KofiAmerican I'm actually a bow Advocate you are as well oh my God we got to start a everybody will force I'm with the authority but my man

TamaraI'm going do whatever he says else I will be so submissive for a man provides I will do everything for that man I will lick the floor if he ask me to I will do that I don't listen to anyone else I

Lauren Kofiguess we will start like an only F Sport I'm not going to do an only fans girl I'm not going to just an Instagram page wait what Instagram page what will you

Tamarado what will you do Instagram we're advocates for the P yeah we are advocate for the p he will make an Instagram with just women bowing no but what you said you would do something for a guy I will

Tamarado everything for a man if he's providing if he's protecting just really being a man marriage or not just providing no but what I'm sorry I didn't hear it so what would you do I will lick

Tamarathe floor if he asked me to yeah I would I will do everything he's the man of the household darling I'm your wife I will do everything for you people who are oh yeah what no no no no these two know oh

Lauren Kofimy gosh no I feel no babe I feel like I'm with a man cuz I respect him I love everything about him so of course I'm going to do like anything to make happy you otherwise I'm not probably with them

SPEAKER_03we're not relationship in a relationship yes I'm the Bowing thing it's like you were saying like oh why would you not bow if you're paying for him I already think that that's like kind of like so if the man's not bowing because

SPEAKER_03he's like oh I'm providing for this woman and he expects and I have to bow if you're being like the masculine role you're being the one that's the provider then it would also be kind of expected that you wouldn't want to Bow either because you're kind of supporting that

Tamaraman you know what I mean I think we have a little problem in today's society that women not every women but women in generally want to like be very menly so like why would I have to do they're very

Tamaralike aggressive about it because if I have to do it you have to do it why is it not just out of love like the Pagan donated $200 example of women not reciprocating

SPEAKER_08is in relationship the woman that they is not in the mood for sex hands off and rightfully so but if the woman is in few mood and the man isn't they get salty

Tamarathis sounds personal concentrate I could do who hurt you Jesus woman uh yeah the are thinking of bowing who hurt you the

Isis HongPagan uh who who go salty there must be it sounds like a very personal experience no what's he saying basically I feel like women can't take an L though if you reject them sexually really yeah that's probably true they're

Lauren Kofinot used to it I feel like women are not I think they haven't hand rejected sexually yeah they are not I just feel like I can read the room I don't think I'd put myself on someone randomly and they're like no like what what's going

Brian Atlason over here what's going on over here just asking if she's okay if she's what just checking in with each other if she's okay are you okay yeah I'm

Brian Atlasperfectly fine oh okay wor uh let's do a little cheers too oh Robert Tanner yes thank you Robert Tanner Sal

Brian Atlascheers SL all right cool um let me read two chats two chats we have Curtis Leon I love to pendas those wonderful

Brian Atlaspill popping wives are crazy I used to watch them first fight at base housing dependa tell us about the sleazy underworld of dependa Life blue porch light United States Marine Corps who all

SPEAKER_03man thank you Curtis appreciate it I haven't heard that word in a long time um I I didn't

SPEAKER_03really have a whole ton of friends um when I was a dependa so I wasn't really like out partying the parties that I went to we would host at our house on

SPEAKER_03base and his friends would come over and everyone would drink they'd bring their wives so pill popping I don't know anything about that but I have heard some crazy stories about girls who chase guys in the military for the benefits all right we have kill of cial here

Brian Atlasquestion for the panel what is the most embarrassing moment you've experienced on a date or while sharing carnal knowledge got a gun Drawn On Us by a gate guard cuz I went too far before turning around kill of Serial hey really

Brian Atlasgood to see you in the chat Man by the way uh wait have you sent me a DM on Discord I don't know send me a DM on Discord and uh I need to get you a rooll on our Discord man appreciate the kill of cial we need to we also need to do

Brian Atlasgrid one's question about feminism um so I need really quick answers on this just to move things along but most embarrassing uh moment you've experienced on the date quick 10 second

SPEAKER_0315 second answer I haven't been on a lot of dates but um my ex used to beat off in bed right next to

SPEAKER_03me word when I was sleeping at like 3:00 a.m. every morning were you guys living together yeah he was my husb is that weird I mean I at least wake me up and

SPEAKER_03it was like aggressively like aggressively and I I had had talks with was the grudging jack off session probably I'm going to be real I just I I had had conversations like go can you

SPEAKER_03like go to the shower there's three bedrooms in this house you could literally go somewhere else cuz it's waking me up at 3:00 a.m. okay so he's a he's kind

Shane Smithof a violent masturbator yeah like it was a it was he was moving the bed if this is a full body masturbation what is happening the bed would Shake that's that's you've got to get one of those

SPEAKER_03Sleep Number beds so that the wine doesn't spill were you guys having sex um we were but I will say it was it was not a lot and there was a lot of reasons for that like I didn't feel loved I

SPEAKER_03didn't feel you know it's a red flag in my books okay so sexy you should date someone who doesn't murate then you don't have that problem I don't want to get into the details of this but with

SPEAKER_03him was uh not good not and I'm not saying he wasn't good at it he

SPEAKER_03liked to get pegged no go no he just was just very like like just rough you know

SPEAKER_03like not sound fantastic it sounds like my ideal got to have a little like a little mixture you know like it shouldn't just be that is he all the

SPEAKER_03time we have the same type sounds like he has an unhealthy relationship with sex yeah fair enough sounds like a [Laughter] marine yeah huh okay um oh embarrassing

Isis Hongdate quick answers if you can yeah so quick first date finish the date make out in the hallway before I leave he summertime thing clothes he came on me oh in two minutes were you doing the

Isis Hongcheck no I wasn't even I wasn't even you didn't even get chance I didn't even maybe I checked when it happened youus it that's how you found you paused it

Tamarayeah it was yeah your turn the cred in my [ __ ] what the [ __ ] that was Nick um go ahead the weirdest thing I ever had

Tamarahe came on my face and he didn't Sal me so I went down the stairs to my parents to get something to drink for myself but

Tamarahe didn't say anything and my father was like how wait is this a date story no it was like and he came on your face I don't know we were just there I don't know and my father was like what's on

Tamarayour face I was like what's on my face so I got to the hallway and he was just sitting on the staircase laughing his ass off he's like ah this so funny and I looked into the mirror and I was like oh damn it's kind of funny though but it's

Tamaraweird no were you asleep what how is this humanly possible you feel because I thought I had everything in my mouth but I wasn't and he just kept on going and I was like oh I finished right I already

Tamaraswallowed and I just looked away for a second like oh right it's swollowing me down it just in my hair you got to do the M got away so that that's what happens all

SPEAKER_03right that's wildely though what about you I wouldn't do it at my parents well I don't want to like I don't want the guy to watch this and like be sad but

SPEAKER_03actually it's for the better like good um a guy growled while we were having sex like we had an animal growl wouldn't

SPEAKER_03stop animal yeah chicken reenact recreate can you reenact like oh what is

Shane Smithhey it's more like more like an anime kid growl than like an animal growl I maybe he's just really intoing you know uh okay yeah free yourself I I have a

Brian Atlassimilar story this one time this chick wanted to be like a cat really happens dude was it cute or was it weird did she want to like meow for youex the way she went about it was weird like

Brian AtlasI I actually wouldn't like if a girl that was her thing or whatever like if it for me anyways like if it turns her on like fine whatever I'm cool with it I'll get into it or whatever but like she just went about it the wrong way

Tamarathat she was trying to like be a cat and [ __ ] did she wear like a latex Catwoman suit sexy with on their head and oh my God actually that wasn't the weird part it was just like she was weird and then

SPEAKER_03anyways whatever but so I I feel you like a furry yeah no no it was just some she's like act like I'm your cat what are you going to do to me like that's weird anyways what about you

SPEAKER_03yeah is it supposed to be embarrassing for me or for them either sure either I guess okay well after I lost my virginity I got kicked out of the house at 5:00 a.m.

SPEAKER_03in the pouring rain with no ride so it's more just a little sad and humbling but wait God so you got kicked out of the house yeah cuz I had like snuck it this was when I was younger and it was his

SPEAKER_03parents' house and his parents like woke up or something the parents kicked you out no they didn't but he thought he was like scared they woke up and so he made me leave so this evil It's just sad a

SPEAKER_03little bit oh good I don't but I mean I don't think it's that bad like I think it was embarrassing for me I don't think he was being ack I just felt like kind of pathetic and used and embarrassed yeah but I don't think he was being a dick he was probably just concerned of

Brian Atlaslike repercussions no he was a DI take my word for it but I mean he's at his parents house he probably doesn't want to get caught so it's not like if it would it's not that big it didn't like traumatize me wait so question how

Brian Atlaslong had you been seeing this guy this was like a one night stand you lost your virginity in the one night stand that's

SPEAKER_03hey you know what it happens it happens it it happens how how old are you oh God a big girl 14 I should have

SPEAKER_03left wait did he know that you were a virgin yeah well it happened I was 13 how how old think he lik that a little bit no he don't worry he was only 16 wasn't like embarrassing story embarrassing St

SPEAKER_03catfished many of times like the guy will be like 30 but then the pictures of them when they were like 22 and then they're like way chunkier and their hair is bad and they look really bad yeah happens a lot do you don't like send

SPEAKER_03videos or FaceTime um I I'm not no I mean I'm not like a Snapchat person I think Snapchat's a red flag but usually that's how they would send live photos I feel like and maybe not really in text messages okay

SPEAKER_03weird that's that's wild so kind of like how all women wear makeup I mean listen like we are all just like human beings so sorry my like lashes are not naturally this long but

SPEAKER_03I'm not insecure without my makeup I I'll take my makeup off I do I film content I shoot a lot of the time with no makeup cuz I don't really care okay what about you my now boyfriend and I

Maddiewere headed home after a date and I was you know help you know making him feel good and I threw up on him oh no what what type

Maddieinto his lap like literally was just stuck with it 30 minutes just driving yeah it's very important wait it was in the car yeah what did you have for

Tamaradinner too much to drink it's going to leave smell and he stayed with you right he's a keeper you should ask him to marry you no me very much in love with

SPEAKER_08my wife however if I turn her down for sex she gets salty just like she talks through something I'm watching but if I do the same I get the castration stare

Isis Honghonestly I get it I said I used to be that wife I love your wife I'm like that too but now I'm better okay all right I can't think of

Lauren Kofian embarrassing date I feel like I go on dates all the time but um oh let me think of one ah I think I might need to come back to me no okay one time I went on a date and the guy like I had the script in my head it was the first time we was going to meet each of us so I

Lauren Kofithought it was going to be a romantic and then I go to the place and he's like outside talking to some girl in the smoking area like I was like what like we're supposed to have you're supposed to see me for the first time and be all fantastic and then so to take the piss like when he went to the bar or

Shane Smithsomething and came back I like started talking to a guy like missing about I was okay yeah uh Shane what about you um I was incredibly unavailable in my 20s was a woman I used to work with and we would like lightly flirt nothing crazy and that happened for months and months

Shane Smithand finally she asked me out and I agreed to it so she's very excited we're going to go on a date and she's sick and I'm like we can cancel and she goes no I'm not going to cancel cuz then you're not going to go on the date so she shows up to my house to pick me up to take me to some surprise and uh she's like oh I

Shane Smithdon't feel well we got to stop at like CVS or whatever so I can get some I don't know medicine ibuprofen and then as she's driving she just started crying and then she pulled into a gas station and put her head on the steering wheel and began to weep incredibly hard like

Shane Smithugly crying and that's when I began to smell it that she had completely an utter uh she had defecated herself uh so [ __ ] disgusting yeah so hard that I

Shane Smithwas in the car like and then so she gets out of the car to go into 7-Eleven to handle it and then I just open the door and left the car running and escaped into the night I just ran home I was

Shane Smithlike my God disgusting I did work with her again and I we never mentioned it we just pretend it didn't happen what about you I don't have one she saw you again okay

Brian Atlasum what oh things really quick then next topic I was just curious about your tattoo that you have the cross ttoo what's the story there it's not a cross it's a plus sign for positive vibes I think Good Vibes is literally everything

Lauren Kofiit's like a do you turn your head that way so this camera can see it me yeah oh there it is oh you look so beautiful positive thank you so much but yeah good energy you can literally like add someone I thought you like killed

Lauren Kofisomebody or something it's the opposite it's the opposite I catch myself even when I'm angry I'm like no come on be nice give them a good you know and wait

Brian Atlasquestion for Isis here um about your name so um cuz I know a lot of uh people who um weren't born here for example

Brian Atlastypically from Asian countries they'll just like adopt a name that's not their legal name do you have a different like a legal name that's not Isis yeah I do have a legal name so what's your

Isis Hongoriginal name or um like I mean it's on my Tik Tok so if you want to know go see that I don't want to announce it here the reason yeah oh well it's

Isis HongIsis the reason why I have Isis because before I came to us I was taking uh English lesson from a a american guy from New York and he told me I was 15 at the time he told me when you come to us

Isis Hongyou need a name that people can easily pronounce so like let me give you a name let me just emphasize this is 20 2012

Isis Hongokay beginning of 2012 before I texed I Googled when you now go back to like that's your name by choice would you now go back to your real name but that's the thing like he he like he just

Isis Hongcalled me one day randomly he never calls me he just called me one day be like your name is Isis and I was like why why Hitler or something if you choosing something I don't know he just chose it for me it's like meant to be he

Isis Hongsaid it's meant to be and then I I was a thing um I actually called him I was like should I change my name because people have been making fun of me and he was like do you want the world to

Isis Hongremember Isis as a terrorist group or you so speaking of positivity I want to bring the positivity to the world okay I hate you so you're like the

Isis Hongcheerleader of Isis the happy Vibe of Isis how do I have to see this like 200 years later when people read about the name or people think of Isis if you look at history do you think they'll think of

Isis Hongwillory celebrity who maybe tell some jokes that making people laugh or a terrorist group I would love I'd probably just change it now yeah I like do you think would rather

Isis Hongpeople remember the terrorist group but darling but it's a bit bigger do you think they will remember you will you go into the history box yes I will because I planning yes I'm planning to build orphanages and I'm going to use my name

Isis Hongas the name of the orphanage and that's going to continue and that's and everything is for so that's my dream that's why I want to manifest it into reality is there any problem with that but people might associate it with

Isis Hongsomething else like you you you know I see that you want do I want to change the n like it's not like oh I I'm going to change n I'm just telling you why I don't want to change my name are going to be on the website of the true Isis

Brian Atlaslike oh my God we are going to be difficult the Isis Wikipedia is pretty robust when it comes to you know what I mean my goal in life isn't to change

Isis Hongpeople's perception of Isis my goal in life is to be myself and then like my name and let the name represent me and everybody if I know you and you never knew

Isis Hongperson named Isis before I wish that after I met you in the future when you read the word Isis you think of me instead of first thought think of a terrorist group that's what I'm trying to say I feel like if it was my name I'd write till I die but like that's my but if I chose it I'd probably step back

Isis Hongright like on all your legal documents is it you're it's preferred name usually they have in legal document they have a preferred name and a legal name on my legal name it's my legal name so it's

Tamaralike your artist name yeah it's like my Tik Tok name it's like what people call me have ever crushed your might like change it to like ice or

Isis Honganything nice and spicy Isis is also a band in an Egyptian god I was going to say all rebirth it's basically the most

Lauren Kofipowerful goddess u in Egypt so that is what I'm named after I wasn't Nam myself after like the terrorist group okay the name sounds nice it's like when people say did you see when people say oh wouldn't cyia be a nice name if it

Lauren Kofiwasn't what it meant like I is just s beautiful I'd to call my daughter that considering now it's okay maybe we can't but it does sound lovely well done it's tough to outdo a bad name though there was a soldier that fought in World War

Shane SmithII with distinction very well and he did a great job and people loved him and he had the same name as a certain guy who was in charge of the Third Reich but we never talk about that Soldier we just

SPEAKER_08talk about that other guy so you're you're up against it I was I was just curious I was just curi um Giovani J donated $200 Giani Islamic terrorist

SPEAKER_08organization or demonic Pagan God lovely British girl turn your tattoo into a cross or nazle only acceptable face

Lauren Kofitattoos pink dress lowkey gorgeous Brian's a fake w Wait go so what do they want me to do

Shane Smithturn my face they want you they want you to have a cross or the tattoo I have on my face and they're being racist Brian well no thank you very much it's my face obviously

Brian Atlasit stands for without papers oh why oh I was doing an Italian like okay scoozy all right okay all right um

Brian Atlasoh grid one's question going around the table are you a wait let me just double check that was his question where is it g one uh oh how many of the panelists are feminists going around the table do

SPEAKER_03you consider yourself a feminist I believe yeah in the direct definition of it I believe in Cal equality with men

SPEAKER_03and women what is cerebral equality like mentally we have the same ability to

Isis Hongwork as a CEO for a company right mhm um physically I don't necessarily believe that okay I think it depends on the definition of feminism I refuse to

Brian Atlasanswer this question unless you give me a definition so here I'll I'll give I'll give one so

Brian AtlasMo the movement towards equality or egalitarianism with an emphasis on uh or or no a rejection of patriarchy so

Brian Atlasmovement towards equality with a rejection of patriarchy patriarchy is is is bad right it does that mean like it's like I need a definition for that too I'm so sorry English is not my first

Isis Honglanguage matriarchy is when men are leading Society generally oh yeah that's bad definitely that's why there's so many wars you see like erious erious if

Shane Smithwomen are in charge there would just be peace talks you think so are on our period that's not true the most infamous pirate who killed the most people in the world was a Chinese woman a of grand

Tamaradaughter killed like millions of people like the most outlandish example you they do no no no a lot of Vikings were women as well a lot of things women are very emotionally we will gold my I

SPEAKER_03didn't know that it jection of patriarchy was included that I thought it was just rights equality for I mean that but that's a really a c i the far like really hard liberals push a

Isis Hongrejection of patriarchy mainstream feminism is a rejection of patriarchy I actually think it goes far beyond that but but so going back to patriarchy existed so many thousands of years and our world isn't that much better I mean

Isis Hongit's time to change it a little bit actually as the patriarchy has been weakening the world's actually gone worse yeah because it only gets worse before it gets better you

Isis Hongknow doctor tell trust me on that I'm tell really quick but so you're claim that if uh I think you were saying well if women were more in charge there would

Brian Atlasbe less Wars they actually did a study they looked at um female rulers and they did a per capita analysis they actually found that women rulers monarchs for

Isis Hongexample female queens were more likely to wage war than and that makes extremely perfect sense because in the world full of men when men are in charge in order to be a woman

Isis Hongin charge you need to be all the men so you need have to be more aggressive than all the men so basically you are acting like a man because you're competing with all the men you know so you have to you

Isis Honghave to win somehow but if in a world where have equal opportunity where every position men and women are equally considered then that's if that's the definition of so I'm not sure I'm

Brian Atlasprepared to grant that presupposition but um I mean isn't there substantial like for example in workforces that are predominantly female there there actually tends to be quite a lot of

Brian Atlasconflict in those environments where it's like mostly women in a uh workplace there's a lot of like you know why because men are chatting the world right now that has but no no no but when women

Brian Atlashave all the power if there's a company that's like predominantly women or all women there's like clicking up and like all sort of like um what's that movie Mean Girls like they click up and there's like backstab I mean there's

Brian Atlasbackstabbing and all kinds of Corporations but there's a greater proclivity towards like backstabbing reputation destruction this sort of thing I mean you've been to a hair salon right can I say I know what do y'all

Isis Hongtalk about at the hair yes it doesn't matter what you this point let me say this because what you're describing where oh all these women are all in charge what you're describing is

Isis Hongecosystem a small micro ecosystem that exist under the current society which is patriarchy patriarchy caus girls to be being girls a lot of jealousy for us is

Shane Smithcaused by men their inconsideration women's erous I mean are women raised by other women more often than men this is the gracious episode of

Shane SmithDr Phil I ever been on let's be honest I I do think the idea that women have to cause more Wars because they're competing with men doesn't seem like it's inherent to what men do it seems

Shane Smithlike that inherently what statecraft is like war in competing for resources is just the human condition has nothing to do with gender you can't compete resources sport donated $200 And1 I am

SPEAKER_08the patriarchy and you know nothing of my work men built this world all the things you enjoy were built by men with the support of women who loved them feminism seeks to destroy all of it let

Isis Hongme ask you this if right now every woman died amen this race is gone there's going to be no spring whatsoever if all men died we're going to be

Tamarafine wait wait wait can't have can we just stop why why does it always has to come back on the baby thing he asked

SPEAKER_03like men buildable that's true right the world would even exist if there's no woman we need each other this is the chicken in the egg yeah we need each other

Tamarawe each other and we need to like fill each other up how to say in proper also it's not the chicken cuz men came

Shane Smithfirst woman religious men came first because Adam and then was taken from his ribs so not his foot so that she would be below him not his head so that she would be smarter than him but his ribs

Isis Hongso that she would collaborate make sense because men have XY chromosome women have XX chromosome right like it looks like you guys are lacking something now we are lacking something you are the rib that we took out all right I chill down

Lauren Kofianyway should we just like continue yeah do you believe in feminism not believe question are you a feminist yeah I think

Tamarain the world we are living now no I still believe that men build the world and we as a women are different and I think we are great at being

Tamaradifferent I think to that as a woman we have to look at ourself and think you know what as a woman we are great we do not have to compete with men we are great as a woman we do things different

Tamarathan and we are great at doing things different why do I always have to compete with a man because we are different we are made differently and we can de be so great and so powerful at

Tamarabeing different stop comparing yourself to men because we are not men we will never will be men just be strong as a women and use your strength as a women to build the things up as a women stop

Tamaracomparing yourself to men you you're not a man stop doing that stop saying hey I bring the babies chill down the men do their thing we are woman we can be strong as a women we can be seductive we

Tamaracan be beautiful we can do everything and as a woman if we support Other Woman a little bit more not in like the aggressive feminist State just like

Tamaracould at being a woman let the man be men let women be woman women and just be strong as a women embrace your Womanhood stop comparing yourself as a man of fight against when we have to do this we

Maddiehave to do that as a man let the man be a man let you be a woman be as a woman first yeah chill down don't stop fighting men all the time I think women should just I think we have a problem comparing oursel to everything like

Tamaraother women but that's where the problem start we as a woman if you truly think that's a patriarchy if you look yourself in a mirror can you say like I'm very strong

Tamaraas a woman right now are you looking in the mirror like oh my God maybe I want to change this about myself I need to go to the gym I need to go this and this and this be strong as your own women first and leave them men being men so

Isis Honglet's get answers to the question though so are you a feminist did you you are feminist equal opportunity a movement a movement towards equality with a rejection of patriarchy equality of

Isis Hongopportunity that's my modification because like I said you I agree with you physically you know there's a lot of difference between emotionally too brain structure wom are different so I would

Tamarasay equal opportunity and then destruction of patriarchy yes okay so you're feminist if that's the definition I think I already answer it in a good way so was

Maddieit a yes or a no in this Society no I'm not a feminist yes yes I am a feminist I'm a girl ball slay feminist I I can't be a feminists because feminists they say they want

Maddieequality and then there's like so many things they pick and choose they don't want to be equal on so no that's what I meant in theun you know that's what I was saying as well be strong first wait you said

Isis Hongequal opportunity yeah like the equal opportunity to be drafted into the military equality we equality is really hard because at a Workforce I think women should have more rights at

Isis HongWorkforce and more leave because we have to give birth so we have more vacation I I would suggest period paying vacation as well but I but it's not equal like I

Isis Hongguess I guess I wish it's not a man's fault you want be right so it's not fault will you think perhaps one day start a business yeah and you'll have employees okay so I mean if you're in

Brian Atlasthe business your purpose for your business is to make money right I mean you said well women should have more time off and if they have their period Then they should have time off for their

Brian Atlasperiod Well I mean wouldn't this be like if if you're an employer how is this just not a liability for your business it is I think it is a liability I think you order for me can I ask you a

Brian Atlasquestion if you're having to pick an employee let's just remove uh gender from it entirely if you know that one employee is more likely to be reliable and be there whereas this other person they're more they they're going to be

Brian Atlassick more often they're going to be less likely they're more likely to ask for time off wouldn't you as the business owner have a strong preference for regardless of gender hiring the person who's going to be there they're not

Brian Atlasgoing to call out all the time they're going to show up on time they're not going to be constantly oh I got to take a day off blah blah blah who would you prefer to hire as an employer that you say it this way I realize I'm not a

Isis Hongfeminist I'm someone depend depends what going to bring I want to give someone who who I want to be someone who give more rights to women because what your question well that's wait not rights so no let me explain something the way you

Isis Hongsaid it if it's two employee I don't know if it's a their gender then definitely I will pick the one with less liability if I know their gender and the this woman requires more leave because

Isis Hongof pregnancy or period then as a woman I'm willing to give her that leeway because because I want like I said I want to be rich the reason why I want to be rich isn't is so that I can provide

Tamarathe the the love and care I want to provide to the people I care about can I ask you a very fast question you want equality so you want to give the woman an opportunity wait a second you want to

Tamaragive a woman the opportunity to get her days off when she's pregnant and everything else so if you go to the workplace and a man has like 20 vacation days you want the same right MH so if a

Tamaraman says Hey listen this Mo he cannot do anything about it that he cannot have children that's like God's way right so if this man is saying like he's getting like 20 days off in a year you're only giving me five I want to have 20 because

Tamarathat's equality right you want to have the same so are you going to give that to a man the same thing or you no because I literally just said I don't want you just said you want equality of

SPEAKER_08opportunity though yeah so that's why I said uh Robert Tanner donated than look in the mirror it exists outcome of opportunity you want equality

SPEAKER_08of outcome separate but dangerous outcomes you are not understanding what you advocating for more individuals will be hurt I think this one for than you Robert Tanner appreciate it uh okay yeah

Brian Atlasthank you Robert appreciate it man thank you for the TTS uh let's get answers from the whole panel uh feminists where did we leave off why I said no answer um just with the job thing quickly um I don't think it's about just who's more

Lauren Kofiavailable just cuz the woman's going to be off for a period you know it's about who brings more just cuz she's going to need a few days off she still might be smashing it I still woman that's sorry it's not about oh who's available and needy you want the best person but as

Lauren Kofifor feminist I don't think I can say a feminist I don't know all the exact rules but I think I love that there's men and women I don't think we all need to be the exact same everyone someone might have more male energy feminine energy two different people bring out

Lauren Kofidifferent things but I like the fact that the man is the man and the woman is the woman I like that so that means I'm not a feminist right not a full one all my employees are women I really don't have a problem at

Shane Smithall they [ __ ] but they they're deaf no they're not oh okay no they're not sorry sorry I had to do it I had to do it

Shane Smitheverybody okay okay good yeah yeah yeah the comedian good feminist um I'm not a feminist if I was I would say feminism refocus on equality and all these other

Shane Smiththings that are incredibly intangible and difficult to Define and sort of hard to do in society feminism should be about women finding what makes them more fulfilled and happy not what I was saying right what I was saying but fulfillment and happiness has nothing to

SPEAKER_03do with all that other crap what I was saying like being Danica Dominica oh Dominica Sor it's okay it's a long one um I would say in the day and age no I mean what are we

SPEAKER_03don't have to fight for anything right now I can do whatever you can do mhm well can you though you know what I mean I have the I have the right to the physical limitations I have the right to yes yes

Brian AtlasI'm not depressed all right we have Curtis Leon dependas used to hit on me they would tell me their husband was deployed one Shi told me the relationship was open so I went to her

Brian Atlashouse husband was mounting the neighbor yes I did it shaking my head okay sweet thank you C Leon for that appreciate it bro my ex never deployed so

Brian Atlasuh really quick on the feminism thing so those of you who are feminists um oh can you say for just are you taking off uh I just have I I'll actually do your

Brian Atlasquestion really quick first then uh so where is it we have luren uh you said guys pretending to be taller than they are what was your thing on that oh yeah no so I met someone in Tinder my

Lauren Kofiex-boyfriend and he pretended to be like I can't remember if he said 5'11 and he was like shorter than me and I'm one of them girls I don't mind you I'm 57 5'8 like I've dated guys shorter than me I think it like I actually sometimes

Lauren Kofiprefer like the underdog cuz someone who's just big amazing they can get all the options they just being like you know on the surface I actually prefer just a random like just any guy like just a real humble guy so I actually

Lauren Kofidon't mind if you short about me what I do mind is that you lie to me so I'm on the first date looking for you in the sky and you're literally on the floor that's what I got a problem with but that's wild like I'm not going to actually meet you do you know what I

Lauren Kofimean like that's crazy yeah I'm going to see you like I'm actually going to see you is it wrong for ay to lie about his height of course it is IM IM I pretend

SPEAKER_03skin and in their defense there is such a stigma towards men and like male height short guys get such a bad rap and like short guys are fantastic amazing

SPEAKER_03I've met such handsome fit like amazing short guys but there I there's just with the internet too you see all these like Street podcast interviews and all girls

Lauren Kofiare like he has to be six foot he has to make six figures like that's wild how tall someone is is nothing to do with the 50,000 things I need from a guy and

Lauren Kofithat's just the simple thing lo1 Century if I close my eyes I can't even see no lying like I'm a very honest person lying is morals I don't care what you are what you do but you need to be honest otherwise we might as well not

Shane Smithstart if we're going to lie I'm going to pretend everything it's a strategy that works for men though they lie until you're invested and then it's too late and then you forgive them for the lie that's a strategy people use in dating

Tamaragenerally it it's gross but it works I think as a woman you you will fall in love with the things you hear that's why men lie and I think men fall in love with things they see that's why women wear

Brian Atlasmakeup oh I've also heard a uh a man's face is his autobiography A woman's face is her work of fiction exactly you got me that's another one that's why men lie

Tamaraand women we wank up right yeah or yeah wom uh men lie by Visual and women or sorry men love falling fall in love with women fall in love with the

Brian Atlasthings they hear that's why men lie men fall in love with the things they see that's why we are weing makeup um I'll have a question for the panel about the hide thing but before you go we have Stiffler ask everyone to rate their

Brian Atlaslooks on a scale of 1 to 10 you can't pick seven starting with Isis what six six okay then coming to you then we'll go

SPEAKER_03this way I think I'm a five in the US two in the European countries okay I think I'm a six

Lauren Kofifive six in my eyes I'm a 10 closer to the mic if you can I would say in Texas I'm an eight but in California I feel like I'm a six okay I'm like a model so

Lauren Kofisometimes I'll think I'm a 10 like I can look fantastic but then I can definitely feel like a eight and a half I'm a two to most people but I'm an eight to the

Lauren Kofipeople who like what I have going on okay I would say I'm a five okay myself you need to have some more like you're not a did you say six you're

Brian Atlasgorgeous oh thank you okay thank you Stiffler appreciate it uh so you're the only 10 at the table I mean no didn't I say 10 oh but you said oh sometime yeah obviously but you have birad day you don't always feel fantastic you're an

SPEAKER_03oscillating if I'm at the gym and I look gross like but when I'm like dressed up I and I'm I'm like fine like I feel like people like I don't know I'm not that crazy about the looks like I don't not one of those girls I don't need to wear

SPEAKER_03makeup all the time but even when I don't look my best I'm still like I love myself you know what I mean like I don't have to always be wearing makeup I don't really care okay

Lauren Kofium I think I look like pokahontas people always tell me I look like pahas I've literally got it tattooed wait let me show you I literally got it tattooed only getting only getting away with it

Brian Atlascuz you're saying with that ACC listen poke oners when people say that I'm like are you kidding me I think she's the best thing in the world so I'm like I'll take it okay so yeah I'm happy with going around the table on this question related to the looks one do you think

Brian Atlasyou'll be better looking in 10 years time no okay yes Isis so Isis you are 27 yeah or 28 27 27 so you'll be better looking at uh 37 yes and do you think

Isis Hongyou're better looking now at 27 than you were at 18 yes okay what about 47 as compared to now that's hard because I don't want to

Isis Hongbe 47 look at this cliff and be like Oh I thought I was ugly so yes that would be more beautiful at 47 as compared to now what about 57 yes 67 Because by the

Isis Hongtime I'm 67 like my beauty will be oozing out of in my inside so I be really really beautiful yes I have to answer it this way it will always be a

Isis Hongyes mean the casket 7 87 yes you're not making it yeah I'm definitely not making it 100 I'm drinking smoking everything right um

Brian Atlaswhat about you yes I also think so yeah so you're 28 you'll be better looking at 38 than you are now yes 48 yeah every 58 thing is a yes I think let me just uh

Brian Atlaskind of re ask the question a little bit here so the question isn't will you still be attractive when you're older

Brian Atlasthat's not the question uh the question is compared to now will you be more

Tamaraattractive in 10 years yes I think yeah I think what about 48 maybe yes and then after that a no okay 58 no no okay and you're 28 are you

Tamarabetter looking now at 28 than you were at 18 absolutely yeah absolutely yeah I was obese when I was growing up I lost like 40 kilos as well and I worked very

Brian Atlashard for I didn't have any operations I do that with very hard working and stuff like that so yeah phally mentally I feel prettier well all else being equal assuming you hadn't been obese at 18 would you do you think you would have

Brian Atlasbeen more attractive at 18 than you are now no okay uh you are 18 do you think you'll be better looking at 28 than you are now um well like to

Brian Atlaswho men in general I guess men in general yeah no no okay most attractive now then what about you you're 19 do you think it'll

SPEAKER_03be better looking at 29 than you are now I hope so okay what about 39 jeans to me like through you're asking to men or even your own self assessment

SPEAKER_03sorry I thought you said that but um well I did but people sometimes I think men just like it younger

SPEAKER_03so sure Through The Eyes of a man these are probably my Peak ears but mhm I hope I still like myself when I'm 29 but do you think you'll be better

Brian Atlaslooking do you think you'll be better looking at

SPEAKER_0329 yeah okay 39 let's go with that um oh hold on 39 no okay so PE yeah late 20s what about you yeah I

SPEAKER_03think men probably they say now because like even in the industry like even in the industry already I feel like people they're like creepy about it so they want to cast me as like a little like college girl cuz I'm a college girl but

SPEAKER_03um wait why is that why would that be creepy because they like the younger ones even if they're like 60 why well why would that be creepy because you're closer to being a minor well no you're

SPEAKER_03but you're not I mean I've been doing content since I've been barely over 18 mhm so I mean they've always been like that and even as I've gotten older I'm 21 I'm not old at all still people will

SPEAKER_03be like 21 yeah exactly still people are like oh like you're getting old and it's because men are creepy and they want you to be barely the men who buy that kind of content are interested in that are creepy for sure men but I think isn't

Isis Hongthere like a graph that shows like men as they get older they still prefer the same age I think emotionally mature men wouldn't prefer small younger I think emotionally mature men would find two

Isis Hongyoung younger women kind of like immature yeah and they would be wouldn't have the sexual attraction like imagine something in my opinion so much younger when I'm when I'm 31 I think I'll

SPEAKER_03probably look better in my eyes though just because like I feel like I'm always improving like I I get lipo done soon I am like always improved myself armo getting stomach lipo I'm getting my

Tamaraboobs done soon oh that's so that's so nice yes I'm getting everything done we if you want to know anything I've done 80% of myself I love it still want they're great yeah they're wonderful oh

Tamaramy gosh I didn't yeah I wish I have those I understand if you want to know anything about it I I've done like 80% of my body top to toe UPG so if you want to know anything about it I'm just uh

Brian Atlaswhat about you uh I do think I'll be more attractive and you're 27 right yes so more attractive at 37 yeah based off of how I've been going so far better better looking at 47 no okay and then were you better looking at 18 as

Lauren Koficompared to how you look uh now no I'm better looking now okay what about you um I've always been fantastic I'm joking um I think I'm probably

Lauren Kofiprobably better looking now is probably the same I feel like as I got like a bit older the same and I'll probably start going a bit downhill in about 5 years

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