Men INSECURE About Body Count?! NYC Gold Digger Has Roster Of SIMPS?! | Dating Talk #187

Date: 2024-08-14

Duration: 8h 20m

Guests

Brian Atlas

TTamara (Dutch Jessica Rabbit)>

VVivian (DT187)>

AAlexa (DT187)>

MMaddie (DT187)>

DDominica (DT187)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Maddie(guest)

SPEAKER_03(guest)

SPEAKER_05Isis Hong(guest)

SPEAKER_08(audience)

SPEAKER_10Lauren Kofi(guest)

SPEAKER_11Shane Smith(guest)

SPEAKER_12Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_14Tamara(guest)

Key Moments

IntroJaspachy introduces herself: 25yo Las Vegas content creator/OnlyFans

“Hi guys I'm just pachy I'm 25 I currently live in Las Vegas Nevada and I'm a full-time content creator streamer and I do only fan.”

IntroIsis Hong introduces herself: 27yo NYC software engineer/TikToker, born China, Korean parents

“Hi my name is Isis ... I'm 27 ... I do TikTok my username is Isis Hong ... I'm also a software engineer. I got a degree in Biochemistry and computer science. Born in China (Korean parents), moved to Seattle at 15, college at 16.”

IntroTamara introduces herself: Dutch Jessica Rabbit, 28, Netherlands, content creator/student

“Hi my name is Tamara better known as the Dutch Jessica Rabbit I'm from the Netherlands ... I'm 28 I'm an adult industry content creator and I'm also a student studying legal administration.”

IntroLauren Kofi introduces herself: 30yo singer-songwriter/model/actress, Nottingham/London, Blue Therapy

“I'm Lauren Kofi I'm a singer songwriter model and actress ... from Nottingham but I live in London age 30. Was on Blue Therapy.”

IntroShane Smith introduces himself: 37yo Utah comedian, ex-motorcycle club member

“I'm Shane Smith I'm 37 I'm from Utah and I'm a comedian. Grew up with stepfather in motorcycle club, got full sleeves and neck tattoos at 18. I am out.”

Key MomentJaspachy reveals she married at 18, divorced Marine husband after 5 years; he cheated with her best friend

“I am single ... my longest relationship was 5 years ... I got married at 18 out of high school. He said he didn't love me while we were married ... there was infidelity ... he cheated with my best friend.”

Key MomentTamara reveals she had labiaplasty; describes them as extremely large, painful, and brought photos

“I got [labiaplasty] ... they were dead big they removed on each side ... it looks like a dick when I wore a bikini that is how big they were ... I have pictures.”

Key MomentIsis argues Brian is selfish for not wanting marriage since he can get all benefits without it

“If you're selfish and can't convince you to do something unless there's a value I'm providing ... fundamentally if you're selfish you can't be convinced... the only way is if she's a billionaire.”

QuoteBrian states the only scenario where he'd get married: if she's a billionaire

“Yeah that's the scenario in which I'll get married ... if she's a billionaire I will marry her.”

Key MomentSelf-rating round: guests rate looks 1-10 (no 7s). Isis: 6. Jaspachy: 10. Lauren: 8-10. Dominica: 5. Maddie: 5. Brian: 5.

“Starting with Isis what... six. [SPEAKER_03]: five in the US two in European countries... six. [Lauren/SPEAKER_10]: in Texas I'm an eight but in California a six... I'm a 10 sometimes as a model. Brian: five.”

Key MomentIsis reveals she asked a man for a $2,500 Tiffany bracelet as condition for second date; he complied; later had threesome with him and his girlfriend

“He said what designer do you like I said I like Tiffany but I don't like silver ... Buy me something ... about $2,500 ... and that was my first and only threesome — with him and his girlfriend, on my birthday.”

ControversyBrian calls Isis a "certified gold digger" after learning about bracelet demand and roster behavior

“She is a certified gold digger. She grabs dude's dicks within minutes of meeting them but she claims to have a low body count. It doesn't really add up.”

Key MomentBody count round: Jaspachy ~30-40; Isis claims <10 (Brian disputes); SPEAKER_03 mix: 3 and <10; Shane declines (>11)

“Jaspachy: probably like 30ish which is very low for somebody in that ... does porn ... four of those are from this week. Isis: less than 10. [SPEAKER_03]: less than 10 / three. Shane: 11 ... I won't be saying [exact number] at all.”

Key MomentIsis reveals she measured men's penis size on first dates; had 9-inch experience; doesn't need men for orgasms

“I always know [the size] because I measure it ... I don't want men to fool me. He was 9 [inches] ... for someone so handsome he's really not good at sex. If he can't get me off I have my vibrator.”

QuoteIsis TikTok video read aloud: viral "if you wanted to you would" video about staying with wrong partners

“It's not that if he wanted to he would, it's that if you wanted to you would. If you wanted to find a man that treats you the way you want to be treated you would. The problem was never them, it has always been you.”

QuoteShane says he'd like to return for a deeper conversation about the porn industry

“I'd love to. I'd like to... I would love to talk more about the porn industry like in a fair question that I'm always doing.”

Topics Discussed

Show intro and announcements

Brian Atlas opens the show, standard platform announcements: Streamlabs, Twitch, merch, Discord, TTS triggers, BLM (Big Labia Matter) nonprofit joke.

Guest introductions (round 1) — name, age, location, occupation

All guests introduce themselves in order: Jaspachy (25, Las Vegas, content creator/OnlyFans), Isis Hong (27, NYC, software engineer/TikToker), Tamara (28, Netherlands, content creator/student), Vivian (18, Orinda CA, music intern), Lucy (19, LA, student), Alexa (21, Baltimore, OnlyFans/student), Maddie (27, Dallas, deaf thrift store), Lauren Kofi (30, London, singer/model/actress), Shane Smith (37, Utah, comedian), Dominica (22, LA, cosmetology student). Extended discussion of Tamara's Netherlands background, red light district school trips, labiaplasty.

Relationship status round

Brian asks each guest current relationship status, longest relationship, how long single. Jaspachy: single 2.5yr, divorced Marine husband (cheated with best friend), now celibate. Isis: casually seeing someone ~2-3 months, not yet had sex with him. Tamara: single (brief 2-month thing earlier); does not do one-night stands. Vivian: single ~9 months, on-and-off guy for 7 months. Lucy: single. Alexa: single ~1.5yr (ex had Grindr + another girlfriend). Maddie: relationship 1yr 2mo. Lauren: single 1+ year. Shane: married October prior. Dominica: single ~4 months.

Tamara's labiaplasty and OnlyFans discussion

Tamara shares she had a labiaplasty (labia were extremely large, caused pain). Brought photos. Brian's BLM (Big Labia Matter) nonprofit discussed. Shane defends all body types. Discussion of Tamara continuing OnlyFans until financially stable; Shane challenges whether she will find traditional man while doing adult content.

Marriage debate — should men get married?

Extended panel discussion on whether men should get married. Brian lays out financial/legal risks (prenup limitations, community property, divorce attorney costs). Guests attempt to convince Brian. Isis argues Brian is selfish; Brian says he would marry a female billionaire. Tamara argues marriage is about love and commitment, not fear of cheating. Jaspachy argues risks go both ways; references her military marriage experience. Discussion of taking husband's last name — split opinions.

Feminist/patriarchy questions

Quick round: who considers themselves a feminist? (none raised hands). Brief discussion of patriarchy in context of marriage traditions.

Self-rating round (looks 1-10, no 7s)

Brian asks each guest to rate their looks 1-10 (no 7s allowed), starting with Isis. Isis: 6. Jaspachy: rated herself 10 (oscillating). Lauren: 8-10 (model). Dominica: 5 in US, 2 in Europe. Maddie: 5. Others in SPEAKER_03 mix: 5-6. Brian: 5. Extended tangent on Jaspachy's 10 self-rating and whether she's the most attractive at table.

Will you look better in 10 years?

Brian asks each guest if they'll be more attractive in 10 years. Isis: yes to all ages until death. Tamara: yes at 38, maybe 48, no after 58. Lauren: same/slightly better for a few years then decline. Dominica: better at 32, then plateau. Brian gave himself 5/10; Shane says he was better looking when younger.

Musical chairs / panel reshuffle

Brief segment: chairs rearranged when Isis moves or leaves briefly. Show notes section begins.

Height preferences

Brian asks each guest: how tall are you and minimum height for a partner? Isis: 5'3", used to require 6ft but now dating shorter man. Tamara: wears heels, doesn't judge height if he has dominant energy. Multiple guests: 5'2-5'3" heights, minimum ~4'11 to 5'6". Shane: doesn't care about height in a partner. Brian: 5'7".

Pre-show notes: Isis Hong deep-dive

Brian reviews Isis's Instagram and TikToks. Isis's request for $2,500 Tiffany bracelet as condition of second date — she got it, and later had a threesome with him and his girlfriend (her only threesome). Panel debates whether this is sex work. Discussion of Isis's roster period (a first date every day for 2+ months). Brian calls her a certified gold digger; Isis defends authenticity. Isis outed her brother as gay on show (name: Tony). She mentions $200k/year income requirement for men.

Tiffany bracelet / gold-digger / sex-work debate

Panel debates whether Isis getting a $2,500 bracelet from a date constitutes sex work. Tamara says world is transactional. Isis denies it was sex work (sex came much later). Shane argues it's similar to sex work by analogy. Discussion of women having easy mode dating vs men's difficulty.

Body count discussion — does it matter?

Extended panel discussion on body count. Does it matter for relationships? Brian says men prefer lower body count. Shane: high body count affects how people want to date you (not inherent worth). Female guests push back — shame vs double standard. Body counts revealed: Jaspachy ~30-40; Isis claims <10 (Brian disputed); Others in SPEAKER_03 mix: "less than 10" and "3." Shane: declined, >11.

Insecurity about body count — men's perspective

Brian argues it's not insecurity to prefer low body count partners. Jaspachy accuses Brian of shaming women. Shane notes no man has ever wished his girlfriend had more partners. Discussion of hookup culture and whether it benefits women. Alexa discussion of ex-boyfriend (bisexual, had another girlfriend).

Adult content industry and relationships

Panel discusses whether women who do OnlyFans can be in monogamous relationships. Jaspachy says filming is professional, not intimate — boyfriend is consensual. Shane challenges what "commitment" means if partner films with others. Tamara adds perspective from her experience in adult content. Brian: girlfriend who does porn = she's cheating on him if he can't also see others.

Child support, abortion rights, and bodily autonomy

Brian frames asymmetry: women can get abortions, men always pay child support. Should men have legal paternal surrender (opt out of child support)? Extended back-and-forth with SPEAKER_03 guests. Tamara: Netherlands requires both men and women to register for potential draft. Isis argues forced military conscription is worse than abortion bans. Panel mostly agrees women should be drafted if they want equality.

TikTok reaction: Isis Show Season 1 and 2

Brian plays and reacts to Isis's TikTok videos. Videos about orgasms/followers, rotation-era sadness, men not getting her off, going to the mall hoping to see her ex, heartbreak vulnerability. Tamara and panel comment on authenticity vs performing for content. Isis defends truth-telling approach. Panel reaches rare consensus on one of her videos about staying with wrong partners.

Show wrap-up and final thoughts

TTS roast section (10 minutes, $30 threshold). Chat calls Isis "most despicable woman" and "CCP plant." Tamara and Brian banter about going on a date (he declines due to OnlyFans). Shane says he'd love to come back. Isis leaves slightly early. Brian does outro, thanks panel, announces next show Sunday 5pm Pacific.

Transcript

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SPEAKER_03tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead hi guys I'm just pachy I'm 25 I currently live in Las Vegas Nevada and I'm a full-time content

Brian Atlascreator streamer and I do only fan all right welcome and um the tattoos where's you got a couple cool tattoos

SPEAKER_03yeah um I've got you know the the og3 Squirtle Bulbasaur uhuh Charmander and then you've got a Warcraft World War I get a lot of I get a lot of heat for

SPEAKER_03this because I have a lion Sor I played both are you both are you a classic Andy or you play retail um I never I never got into it with classic I think I started around

Brian Atlaslike uh Lich cataclysm okay and then the the upper CL chest what what is that what does it

SPEAKER_03read it says pres Vu um it's French it means almost seen like pres Vu presu yeah almost seen almost seen what's the meaning there it's like um on a deeper

SPEAKER_03level when you're about to realize something like really big this like Epiphany and just as you're wrapping up the thought you lose it and you forget it and so that's what that means or

Brian Atlasthat's the explanation behind the tattoo that's that's the explanation okay well it's the definition it's does it have any practical uh meaning for you though I I got that feeling a lot when I

Brian Atlasgot you have an idea then you just forget it like just I how do you say Alzheimer's in French we should you should have just got that put on your chest Alzheimer yeah isn't that the same thing right you come up with an idea but

Isis Hongthen you forget that [ __ ] sharp we're going to okay all right um okay cool cool what about you hi my name is Isis uh I'm from New York uh

Isis HongI what's another thing I need to answer I'm 27 uh I do Tik Tok my username is Isis Hong i s i s h o n g I'm also a

Brian Atlassoftware engineer yeah software engineer okay you uh so you got a degree in computer science I got a degree in Biochemistry and computer science I did too and then are you also you're also a ballerina is that correct yeah I do

Isis Hongdance okay but I I wouldn't call myself a ballerina because they put so many years of actual hard work into that yeah okay so are you going to like show us a paer or I can do a split but I don't think you can't do paa what about

Isis Hongpirouette it's just like when I'm nervous I feel like it's it's not good to do those okay that's fair and you said you said you're from New York City right I'm originally from China my parents are Korean and I moved to

Isis HongSeattle when I was 15 now I live in New York yeah wa how did you end up in China uh so my mom is North Korean my dad is South Korean they met in China because

Isis Hongmy grandparents uh came from Korea North Korea and South Korea okay and I was born in China that's why I was in China gotcha and then you said you from China you moved to the US was it yeah when I was 15 15 so you went to high school and

Isis Hongyou moved straight to New York or where were you no I didn't go to high school I went straight to college when I was 16 and I did 5 years of college that's why two degrees then I started working for 5

Tamarayears in Seattle then I to New York two years ago okay got it yeah okay cool welcome yeah what about you hi my name is Tamara better known as the Dutch Jessica Rabbit I'm from the Netherlands

Tamarafor the people that do not know what the Netherlands is Amsterdam drugs stuff like that hold on there's more there's more to the Netherlands than Amsterdam a lot of people do not know I say I'm from the Netherlands they're like what and

Tamarathen I'm say oh Holland they're like what and then I say mam they're like oh you do drugs and I'm like no but do you want to buy some you know

TamaraI'm 28 I'm an adult industry content creator and I'm also a student I'm studying legal uh Administration uh

Brian Atlasemployer okay I think that's the name for it got it and uh you're born in uh the Netherlands yes absolutely yeah have you you said you were involved in the

Brian Atlasadult industry yes uh I mean Netherlands has a pretty robust like escorting prostitution red light have you been started Light District at all oh no we

Tamarado oh that's so weird when you are going to school in the Netherlands where you're very long like 12 13 years old you have school trips I don't know if that's a thing here school trips they take you to the red light district just

Tamarato watch and see it like oh my God this culture just for fun wait so how old like young it's not like here you're going to work here or something no it's

Tamarajust like is it cautionary no I I have the Netherlands are very like open-minded people we do we are roasting people just for fun we do not

Tamarahave that kind of feelings so like oh my God that's offensive we do not have that we will just like roast you but they like take kids to the red light they will see it right they will see it on the television and stuff so we're just

Tamaralike we're going to Amsterdam it's a part of Amsterdam we're going to walk through it laugh it as people and then they get out get ice cream or something I I've been to Amsterdam like three times for work trips a long time ago right and I mean it's actually really

Tamaraeasy it's pretty much right near the city center you can just stumble into the red light a normal street and the women are beautiful mostly as well I don't know they're a lot of from Russia and stuff I think they're very beautiful actually but it's just in the street you

Tamarahave like this shopping street and it's just in the back of it just like naked women and but a lot of people are very open in the Netherlands you can walk naked in the Netherlands they were like

Tamaraoh yeah it's fine just another Tuesday it's fine sweet cool cool uh is this your first time in the US or it is actually oh wow okay welcome so if you have any recommendations let me know I want to see everything I want to see the

Tamarapeople at Walmart I want to see like everything water B yeah those are the most important I want to see F people I want to see everything I want to see everything have you ever been to Zach zaken bger no we do not have a lot of fast food restaurants at all we just

Brian Atlashave a burger game KFC like a little Subway but not like the men when I was in Amsterdam there's this good burger place called zaken burger like right by

Tamarathe city center then you suck your burger or something zakin z z a k n right I never heard of it but as a Dutch person we do not even go to Amsterdam a

Tamaralot because there's a lot of tourists there it's not really Dutch anymore so the Dutch people are more like am it's nice for a one day no we just go there

Tamaraif you want to be a tourist in our own country it's very weird actually okay we do that here too really yeah people go to New York Americans don't leave America yeah but I have we go on vacation in our

Tamaraown country we're a different view of America I just saw America like on Netflix and I just romanticized everything and I just arrived here I saw people screaming and I saw people sleeping on the street and I was like

Tamarawhat the [ __ ] is going on here it's like yeah I don't know I love it I love it cool what about you um I'm Vivian I'm 18

SPEAKER_03uh I'm from San Francisco originally um but I moved across the bay uh Oakland yeah uh next to Oakland Orinda it's like

Brian Atlasa suburb of Oakland okay um what do you do for work or school or well um I have like an internship with

SPEAKER_03like a private or like a small like record label um Firebird sound and I would like

SPEAKER_03like to do music but um it's more of like a hob like so I will be working at Pete's probably what what's that Pete's

Brian AtlasCoffee oh okay nice uh on your Instagram it says you're a member of the deep State um what does that mean oh well

SPEAKER_08that just means like I'm just recognizing that um I'm Curtis uncore Leon

SPEAKER_08$200 it's almost the first anniversary since Lea confessed her love to you BTW if Lila and Bri asked you to join their work team and you'd make $1 million

Brian Atlasyearly would you do it happy anniversary Curtis you and your like would you questions uh yeah it is it is it the anniversary

Brian Atlasuh yes sure I will join the tourque team for a million dollars there you go uh actually no I'll negotiate it

SPEAKER_03P smart uh the Deep State thing so is it just like jenzy Edge Lord stuff or no

SPEAKER_03it's just like a small recognition of this of Alex

SPEAKER_03Jones just wait what homage like just Alex Jones homage yes about the things that he turned out

SPEAKER_03to be right about are are you a big Alex Jones fan no because oh so homage but you don't like him I think that he's

SPEAKER_03like well I I like him as like a character you know okay to watch but um so the homage is what exactly oh the

SPEAKER_03homage is just to the things he was right about like cuz he like kind of predicted 911 and I don't know if I can say the other one that he

SPEAKER_03predicted okay um all right cool cuz it's like about you me um hi I'm Lucy

SPEAKER_03I'm 19 I'm from Los Angeles and I'm a student all right what do you uh study I'm still kind of figuring that

SPEAKER_03out um I've been in the art since I started school I started I wanted to get a bachelor's in visual art but I'm more interested in film now are you at a city

Brian Atlascollege or fouryear university I'm doing community for now okay you're just doing some credits yeah Undeclared major okay kind what about you oh wait actually Lucy uh on your Instagram it says will

SPEAKER_03have her revenge what does that mean uhuh okay so yeah that's some definitely like Teenage edginess type I don't know I kept it up for a while I probably did

SPEAKER_03that a few years ago but it's from the um Nirvana song Francis will have her revenge on Seattle or Francis Farmer will have her revenge on Seattle and I

SPEAKER_03don't know I had like a spiritual connection with that song or something when I was like but I still yeah I love grung all right um and uh you have an interesting

SPEAKER_03sternum tattoo we can't really show it but what's the story there not much of a story I just thought it was sick it looked cool got paid and wanted to get a tattoo okay what about you my name is

SPEAKER_03Alexa and I'm from Baltimore Maryland I'm 21 years old and I do only fans and content creation and I'm also a student so I study um

Maddieadvertising and PR and I also do marketing so you said 21 yes okay as of like two weeks ago what about you I'm Maddie I'm 27 I'm from Dallas Texas and

MaddieI run a thrift store for the deaf community and as we know as I think it's the only deaf thrift store like the we're the only one that does that

Lauren Kofiokay um I'm Lauren Kofi I'm a singer songwriter model and actress all of them creative things and I'm from Nottingham but I live in London age 30 all right

Brian Atlasand were you recently on like a reality TV show or yes might have been I was on Blue therapy yeah show and you said you're singer what kind of uh what genre of music so I sing mostly R&B but with

Lauren Kofithe songwriter it'll be like with rappers or house music I've got some house songs out there bit of everything can we hear a little sample couple bars H someone give me a song cuz so

Lauren Kofiindecisive Alicia Keys which one fall If I Ain't Got You oh oh beautiful song wait wait Give me the lyrics

SPEAKER_09Wait some people live for the for some people live just for the

Shane Smithfame there you go wow thank you cool what about you amazing uh I'm Shane Smith I'm 37 I'm from Utah and I'm

Shane Smitha comedian all right welcome welcome Shane and uh you always live from in Utah or yeah yeah I pretty much grew up in Utah exclusively I lived in like Mount Arrowhead here in California for a

Shane Smithlittle bit but okay and uh I'm sure people might be curious so what's the Genesis of all the tattoos um yeah my family is white trash I grew up in the middle of nowhere my stepfather was in a

Shane Smithmotorcycle club and so me and my brothers kind of went that rout out in our lives and so yeah I I had full sleeves in my neck and stuff when I was

Shane Smith18 so wow were you affiliated with the motorcycle CL okay are you still or how no no I am not I am out good okay yeah

Brian Atlasyeah yeah cool cool uh do you still have the I I I saw sons of anarch 10 years ago this I've never seen the jacket or no no you don't keep your cut if you leave okay got it cool cool what about

SPEAKER_03you I'm Dominica I'm 22 um right now I'm just at school cosmetology school um I used to be a

SPEAKER_03gymnastics coach though that was like really fun um so yeah life is just mid right now life is mid oh no live right

Brian Atlasnow uh and where are you from California California LA area I guess all right and you're in cosmetology school you want to do hair makeup what do you want to do uh

Brian Atlasyeah I enjoy doing hair and makeup I guess like events like weddings proms things like that okay cool well we're going to go around the table once more what is everybody's current relationship status so are you single talking stage

Brian Atlassituationship Friends with Benefits relationship married pool sex C Harum whatever it may be if you're single how long have you been single and what's the

SPEAKER_03longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead I am single um I've been single for about about 2 and 1/2 years now uh

SPEAKER_03my longest relationship was 5 years was that the one that ended 2 and a half years ago yes so that was from

SPEAKER_03like 18 to 23 kind of or yeah um end of 2017 December um and then July

Brian Atlasof 20 gosh 2022 were you guys both like last year high school or I got married at 18 out of high school yes okay so you

Brian Atlasguys were married yes for 5 years yes and the divorce is official or still in the works it's waiting on a signature okay who initiated the divorce uh it was me

SPEAKER_03why um there's a lot if you go all the way back but um essentially it boiled down to he didn't want to be married um he

SPEAKER_03said he didn't love me while we were married but then every time I would say well let's stop wasting each other's time he would kind of like pull back and

SPEAKER_03be like no don't leave me um and there was infidelity and so it just mhm got to a point where I had to leave it was not I was trying so hard to make it work and

Brian Atlasit just how long had you guys been seeing each other before you got married about a little under a year okay and you said

SPEAKER_03he enlisted in the military yes he was a marine when you met or he was training to um RC he didn't do RC but he was

Brian Atlasworking out with them he knew he wanted to join um so I was aware of that okay yeah and uh any relationships well wait so you've been single for 2.5 years and

Brian Atlasthat's since the divorce yes there's been no other guys in the picture no nothing zero come on not short-term thing Friends with Benefits no I haven't

Brian Atlasreally seen anybody since the the divor what about during the proceedings during the the divorce during the div during the relationship

SPEAKER_03any infidelity on your part or um yeah there so it's a long story um he

Brian Atlashe cheated on me with my best friend and what it's about a good juicy best friend yeah okay and how long how long were you best friends with the best

SPEAKER_03friend friends with the best friend we we were friends for a couple months but she was my best friend that I had made in my adulthood okay so and you know it's military you move away from everybody

SPEAKER_03you know and you're kind of like in your own separate bubble you're not with your family and you know right so yeah and then so and he cheated on you and so you

SPEAKER_03were like getting revenge or who cheated first yeah uh he cheated first for sure but I um did you [ __ ] his dad or something God no that would be so great

SPEAKER_03her her boyfriend [ __ ] the best friend I don't know that would be great I um there was another guy who kind of was like you know he's not treating you

SPEAKER_03right you deserve better you know all that and um was he your friend no he he was one of his friends actually man that's messy

SPEAKER_03so out and he tried to get me to leave the relationship and be with him but I saw him like break down when I told him I

SPEAKER_03was leaving and I'd never actually seen him like fight for me at that point um and I thought like what kind of wife

SPEAKER_03would I be if I didn't try to stay and make it work and he said you're going to last like another 2 years his friend and

Brian Atlashe was right so and so let's see here you were there multiple different partners when it comes to the cheating or just this one

Brian Atlasguy no it was just that guy and then did you end up dating that guy or no so was couple shortterm thing yeah and then

SPEAKER_03you've been CIB it for 2.5 years about or I I have been with one person um but

SPEAKER_03and not for a while you haven't seen him for a while yeah how long uh how long were you seeing him are you still seeing probably like probably like a couple

Brian Atlasmonths are you still seeing him no I'm not so you guys broke up or fizzled it wasn't really a relationship ever okay okay so you've been single well it

Brian Atlaswasn't a relationship but okay no serious relationships for 2.5 years yeah um you said you do adult content do you shoot scenes with

Brian Atlasmen uh I have in the past I don't currently do that you have shot scenes and is this through your only fans or you've done traditional porn no I haven't done traditional porn it was

Brian Atlasthrough o okay and You' you said with a couple men or just one man or one guy was it that yeah the guy who for a couple months that you were yes okay got him can I ask you a question before ask

Tamarame a question uh her oh okay if that's okay yeah you said um what kind of wife would I be if I do not fight for the relationship yeah if you if you do not

Tamarafight for the relationship if you look back at the time that you cheated do you regret it because that's not really fighting for your relationships right I

Shane Smithdo yeah did he know he did so so he's not going to find out from

SPEAKER_03this situation like he was trying to get us into like polyamory at some point because he couldn't be monogamous the last gasp of

SPEAKER_03a Dying marriage but what your best friend and so he I say I cheated but he knew that I was with him

Isis Honglike it's but I consider it it was cheating you know so all right what about you so currently um I just started dating

Isis Hongsomeone but I think it's getting serious I don't know we we should have a conversation a check-in uh what my longest relationship is 5 years um from

Isis Hongwhen I was 18 to like 18 plus 5 what's the other question there that's it uh how long have you been if you're single how long have you been single oh I'm not single yeah I just started seeing how

Isis Honglong have you been seeing this guy um like 2 3 months but we don't really see each other very often because he's really busy I've been really busy and traveling so I be like we don't see

Isis Hongeach other sometimes even like two weeks yeah so it's hard yeah so it's a bit slow when you say it's starting maybe to get serious yeah what what does that

Isis Hongmean like I'm ready to have sex with him that's so cute that's so cute hold on wait ready to have sex with him yeah you guys haven't had sex no but next time I I'm thinking about it wait how

Isis Hongmany how many times have you seen each other in person I more than a dozen but I don't know like every week we try to every week but there are times that's like two three weeks we don't see each other so you've seen him about a dozen

Isis Hongtimes more than yeah I guess why are you so surprised well there's things that I'm okay well so I think hold on why why are you surprised by my surprise because you

Tamaralook like like why didn't you have sex yet it's like three month well I mean I know you men right and I get it feel like that's kind of don't you do porn like yeah that's what I was thinking but

TamaraI I do not suck dick for a living that's not what I do but that's another story we come that why do you look so surprised like well if she wanted to wait maybe she's like a I don't know

Isis Hongit's so cute right very romantic I think it's sotic he's a man of wind join himself in absorbing the information disappoint me it's like I have my vibrator I can guarantee have orgasm

Isis Hongevery day why would I have to go out to meet a guy to to like pretend to enjoy it like you do not want to real when I don't feel love yet you know like when I truly feel like okay you know what when

Isis HongI cuddle you I still feel satisfied okay let's let's do that you know um but otherwise I it's just a waste of my emotion my makeup and my hair you know and then you could get attached to

Isis Hongexactly logically get we release oxytocin to get attached to them and that's just unfair yeah but I understand but are you not scared if you're so in love with him and everything and you finally have sex and

Tamarahe has like a small dick no I touched him the first date oh you you touched him the first date but now you're waiting it's like that's that's that's

Isis Hongcan you tilt your mic down a little bit she's done everything tilt it down so um and has this uh does he want to have sex yeah yeah yeah I think so like he's on

Brian Atlasme all the time but you're like let's wait yeah till I'm ready very respectful yeah but he's interest like he's made moves and you're like no let's wait yeah um have you had sex with a man quicker

Brian Atlasthan 12 dayses yeah of course have you had sex with a man on the first date I've had one night stand before yes a couple one night stands yeah second date

Isis Hongsecond date yeah I think so third date probably yeah fourth date I mean if you keep going we can go I don't know ith

Isis Hongday I I don't know because I can't tell you like once if you keep going it be like 20 30 40 so but you remember you touched his dick and then you were like

Isis Hongno not today we when you you do the test you know like like is it big blue balls like you can give a hand job no I don't have to give a hand job ask you a

Brian Atlasquestion dude Shane M if let's say you're you're like hooking up with a girl but she doesn't want to like do anything like too too far and but hand

Brian Atlasjobs on the table I don't know about you dude I'd rather just not get the hand job you're not that's my experience the

Brian Atlasold fashioned I'd rather just not like if a hand job is all that's on the table I'd rather just not you know what you're just lazy I mean I get where you're

Isis Hongcoming from but I feel like most guys are so desperate they're like anything just anything you have I'll dry hump youe oh they literally dry hump you me yeah they dry hump all the time like

Isis Hongthat's not not one person I'm like I've had exper like I don't want to have sex have you ever dry humped somebody I'm from Utah brother I have dry humped a lot I guarantee you every man has dry

Shane Smithhumped there's one day you will dry hump you'll regret this moment what is dry humping can somebody feel me is it like when you and you're having you're essentially having sex but you're are still you looking like a

Shane Smithlittle what's it called are you going to ask about soaking is that I have not soaked but that is a real thing that are you Mormon or I'm not Mormon I'm a Catholic okay have you ever been like so

Isis Honghorny you just like rub your jeans against something like that's I have so that's the feeling of dry humping yeah no I I want to go home I never I never done that no

Brian Atlasactually no see what actually have sex but so I'm I'm curious so and are you religious are you religious no I'm not so um and then the guy that you saw before like have you been seeing other

Isis Hongguys during this time period actually not actually I haven't it's not because I Haven tried but just because I haven't tell tell them the truth Isis you tell them the truth okay yeah I have there's you've been seeing other guys right well

Isis Hongnot I have been I've gone on like First Dates gone on dates yeah I've gone on dates did you H up with any of them no you not Isis you're not doing the test tell me the truth you're not doing the test on any of these guys I'm doing the test on them but I I made out with them

Isis Hongbut I don't want have SE I didn't have sex but do you also feel their dick you just not see them anymore what Well yeah if they're small it depends I mean if it's like three I might not see them but

Isis Hongit also depends like maybe they're not hard at that moment so just I need more data to prove but what if wait I need to go on more so the guy wait did did you actually even say that the size Matters

Brian Atlasis Size Matters okay but so if you like you go for that immediate grab and it's not like up to par do you just leave or do you like kick it for a bit I would

Isis Hongsay it's not that big and then see how he react in his face no [ __ ] way you can I've done that once at a bar there's a guy who's really cocky so he was really cocky he was like oh you know

Isis Hongwhat come home with me I have this this that that and he was like gesturing down there and I was like okay then let me see let me see if you gesturing let me see then okay and then he scooted over a little bit it was at the bar so underneath the table I just grabbed it I

Tamarawas like I don't know what I'm seeing like I don't not seeing anything what is a normal size for you like if you held it like one or two hands and then I love the story about how this guy you're like oh I totally dunked on him

Shane Smithand he tricked you into grabbing his dick that's what happened that's his move right there he's like I did it what an awesome night for me yeah that's yeah well I didn't grab his dick from the inside just on the outside it doesn't

Shane Smithit's still win for the boys I'm telling you no guy cares about that distinction well then uh I'm very generous you are yeah good for them you are a very open person literally yeah wait so but while

Brian Atlasyou've been so while this guy who you've been seeing for 3 months it's getting serious you have been going on other dates during this time period yeah when's the last time you were on a date with somebody

Isis Hongelse like two weeks ago or at least yeah two weeks ago is it really that serious if you dated a guy another guy two weeks

Isis Hongago you mean like another date oh with a different guy that was more than two weeks ago it was like 3 weeks with with the same guy was two weeks ago with the guy who you're interested in that was two weeks AG okay no I was asking when's

Isis Honglast time you were on a date with like a different guy oh that's at least like four weeks three weeks four weeks yeah all right and then end of July I

Brian Atlasremember the date yeah okay so I guess so t answer your question why I'm a little surprised here so she's wait she's not had sex with this guy

Brian Atlasshe's waited it's been 12 days but you have actually no actual objections to sleeping with people quickly that's where my surprise is yes so it seems rather arbitrary that this guy who you

Isis Hongactually like yes he has to wait for sex but all the other men who are not worthy of a relationship you gave them the [ __ ] right away mhm because I how you reconcile that I was at I was at a different place back then I Used To Be A

Isis HongSerial dater I had a lot of a lot more insecurities I just wanted validation so if I can get men's attention even if they're ugly sometimes I'm happy but now um I'm at an age where I feel pretty

Isis Honggood about myself I want to build a life and I feel like my next person is going to be be a husband so like this has been I've been doing this for a while now so I don't feel like I can't want to waste

Isis Hongmy time anymore and it's not like oh I decided to be a good girl it's not that it's just I had enough trashy experience with men and I got enough attention that I'm like I'm done like that's over so

Isis Hongwhat's the dating while you're with him does he know about that um he I don't think he objects to that because I think we never like talked about it but I I'm looking for a husband yeah if he's not

Isis Honggood enough if he's not good enough for me then I can pick someone else before I'm committed in a relationship everybody is fair game it's The Bachelorette for myself it's very what

Isis Hongwhat is good enough good enough is um it's very hard to describe right first you have to have chemistry then you have to have money then you have to have good personality but do you find yourself good enough Rel hold on hold on you got

Isis Hongto let her finish answering the question go ahead uh yeah you're listing the things so chemistry moneyone personal moral personality Family Values um yeah

Isis Hongthose things so the things that the family values what are family values to you yeah like are do they what are their parents like do they believe in monogamy

Isis Hongor they po like or um what's their experience have they cheated before or like are they seeing therapy like are they open to family therapy and couple therapy if he's sleeping with other

Isis Hongpeople right now would that bum you out yes interesting and but you're grabbing people's penises on dates to see if they're bigger than three in was that before before you were dating it's only it's not that oh I'm going to do that

Isis Hongevery time on the first date it's like if we are making out and my hands just happen to be near his pocket I mean I might just grab a little bit you know measure so I there's no fault in that he likes it like you said do you do you ask

Shane Smithbefore you just why would I ask like he said and then love it right I mean like sexual battery but I mean we're going off body language and rather but I I don't want to bum you out but I'm going

Shane Smithto be honest I think that guy I don't think making out is that big of a distinction from sleeping with someone if I was like going on a lot of dates with a girl and we were really intimate we were waiting to sleep together because like it was really fulfilling to

Shane Smithbe with her and I found out she was making out with other people I would immediately never talk to that person for the rest of my life am I the only one who find kissing more intimate than

Tamarano it's it it sets the mood right so I would find it more difficult if a man would say to me I cheat because I kiss someone that would hurt me more than he sticks his dick in somebody I think I do like the

SPEAKER_03adult industry thing like you and a lot of like creators like if you're doing a collab with someone I feel like well they don't kiss so you can go meet up with this person and then you do the collab with whatever like corn star

SPEAKER_03whatever you want to call it but um they a lot of them do not kiss like they I mean that's something I reserve more for somebody I'm actually interested in like in a relationship um because it's like

Tamarasomething to it's more special for them you know exactly well we'll come back to some of those topics we'll get everybody's relationship status first though what about you I've been single for a few months I had a very short

Tamararelation from one and a half months two months he was a personal trainer he cheated on me with one of his clients like the classic

Tamarastory very classic um classic they say it is right and before was he Dutch no he was from Belgium I didn't even understand him because we had a

Tamaradifferent language it's very funny though was it German speaking or French speaking more French cuz don't they speak some parts in dialect frenchish yeah very funny and before that I was

Tamarasingle for years actually I do not do one night stance I do not do anything like that so I was just totally single without any interaction or anything so

Brian Atlasokay all right and longest relationship nine months nine months

Tamaraokay you make content with men uh I have one no I have one movie with a person yeah the rest I just post like lunch

Tamarapictures stuff like that solo content a lot uh personal videos uh video calling and stuff like that uh I do not do a lot of collaborations mostly because I want to

Tamarasee the earning of the other person as well it has to be a little bit equal you may understand um like a business thing and I think it's hard to do collaboration I'm always a little bit

Tamarascared that somebody will like [ __ ] me over a little bit did you set a priz and they will just post it earlier just to like get it more money out of it I don't know I'm just a little bit reserved on

SPEAKER_03that I do not have an agency I do everything by myself so I'm very MH conscious about it your relationship status I am

SPEAKER_03single um uh my longest relationship was like 4 months and I've been single for like also 4 months or maybe three

Brian Atlaslike since summer um what was over the other question uh the one that ended 3 months ago was that the 4mon one yes is this the only

Brian Atlasguy you've ever dated dated yeah okay but you've had like situationships or shorter term casual stuff with other guys or yeah

SPEAKER_03orientation um I mean that's a uh unsure so you date women too then no oh I don't know if I would date a woman or

Brian Atlasnot I don't know if I would date a woman or not so you're curious I curious have you like made out with a girl yeah okay

SPEAKER_03what about you I'm single all right um as of I guess like the beginning of this year uh my longest relationship was I don't know if you could officially

SPEAKER_03say like a year but on and off about a year um finally just kind of cut ties with him actually very recently like for good but well you said you've been

SPEAKER_03single for 9 months so when you say very recently you mean 9 months ago no cuz I was I kept in contact but after you guys split up yeah and you were on and off

SPEAKER_03for one year how many times were you on and off this year um we're only officially together I guess a total of like 7

SPEAKER_03months you could say in between then like hooking up a little bit but um so how many times you said it was on and off how many times was it was it

SPEAKER_03on was it on and off within a year like three times who would end it me eventually who would go back to who me but you would end it but

SPEAKER_03then you'd go back to him why would you end things I'd get fed up about with what a Serial cheater and a narcissist and a master manipulator but I wasn't

Brian Atlasstrong enough to call it quits for good at the time so when you say uh narcissist and master manipulator let's start with narcissist so what what

SPEAKER_03did he do or what was his conduct that made you believe he's a narcissist well um pretty much as soon as we got together he moved in with me I

SPEAKER_03took care of him I paid for everything pretty much um and I found out that entire time he had been literally since day one serial

SPEAKER_03cheating on me with with everyone in their mother I found hundreds of DMS videos pictures everything you could possibly

Maddieimagine can and yeah good question uhhuh I just I've always been curious about that um what did you have to tell yourself to be okay with paying for everything for him or like taking care

Brian Atlasof him I did the same thing I just folded for him every time you know I'm a little curious though it's sad it's it's pathetic well you're you're quite young you're 19 I assume when you guys were

SPEAKER_03dating you must have been 18 yeah I um were you living with your parents I was yeah so he moved into your parents house W was he like homeless or what was yeah kind of um I mean I'm assuming your

Brian Atlasparents had to agree to this Arrangement they did they didn't like him but you know so you just met him and so how soon after meeting him did he move into your house we didn't like fully move in he

SPEAKER_03had a place with his aunt that he was kind of like in and out of or or no he did have a place but he ended up getting kicked out and that's when he started living with me when you so but when you say he was living with you he was there

SPEAKER_03every day spending the night most of it yeah was he in your bedroom yes hold on your uh this is your parents bedroom yes but my parents house but are your parents still together yes wow and both

Brian Atlasyour mom and your father live in this house yeah and wait so okay how long after meeting him did he like kind of start moving in like a month I mean this is a failure on

Brian Atlasno offense to your parents this is an absolute failure on your parents I'm well aware like there's no scenario if I had like if I had adter that I'm letting her boyfriend

SPEAKER_03move into my house they've been through a lot with me at this point like protect you a little bit do I want to tell you tell us about that I'm not so sure I don't want to

SPEAKER_03take up so much time any give us the plot synopsis Readers Digest of my life of my problems uh Sparks notes how I've all the ways I've traumatized my parents

SPEAKER_03in my adolesence the best parts all right let's go Netherlands um we can start with uh I got kicked out of school for doing cocaine when I was 16 and sent

SPEAKER_03to Wilderness therapy which is actually where I met this lovely lady oh right did you guys go to Utah we went to the same one we went to the same one but then we ended up getting sent to a

Brian Atlastherapeutic board in school in Montana like 10 m south of the Canadian border like literally but [ __ ] nowhere nice wait so you went you guys met at

SPEAKER_03boarding school and you were you guys were both like 17 at the time yeah I was 16 turn 17 you both did cocaine or what no no no that's just me oh that's she

SPEAKER_03didn't meth so wait so hold on let's go back to you really Quick's more of her Jam I'm kidding I'm kiding I promise what

SPEAKER_03was it that got you landed in boarding school well the into the mic oh sorry I had a very bad very sad bad uh attempt

SPEAKER_03to run away from home and I the reason it didn't work is because I brought like four garbage bags of like

SPEAKER_03items cuz I like really wanted to make it work but in the end I was too prepared and it like took me 45 minutes to walk like it should have taken me like 10 the

Tamarabags were just heav so you got down the street is what you're saying you tried to run away and you're like a block like get back here what are you doing it took 45 minutes to do that like no I do not want to that's why homeless people have a bindle that they can move fast with a

Brian Atlasstick and the bag on it I'm running away give me a second I'm trying to be dramatic here so uh you got caught trying to run away and then they that's it that's why they sent you to boarding

SPEAKER_03school or was there other stuff oh well there was stuff leading up to that like generally like risky Behavior okay

SPEAKER_03like like just I would just like want to like go to San Francisco at night like not even doing anything super devious I just like like to go but it was like

Brian Atlaswith friends like out with friends just alone like an stre Francisco as like a 14 why do you hate your home so much um

Shane Smithwell at the time I just had some like personal issues that I Pro I probably wouldn't go into okay huh okay I uh not

Shane Smithto interrupt everybody but I want to know more about this guy zero money complete loser no house and is somehow so cool that you're like get into my parents house and let me buy you things

Shane Smiththat's great and hundreds of DMs yeah money and he's hooking up with girls he sounds awesome

SPEAKER_03good he was he was a gentleman yeah he's a narcissist gentleman so he's like G narcissist you guys ask me I'm telling

SPEAKER_03you um yeah but uh I'm glad to say it's in the past and [ __ ] him but did your parents like him no no but they still took him in he was like yeah bro come

SPEAKER_03live with me yeah I kind of did he like [ __ ] your mom as well no no we didn't go that far you know you know he cheated on par doesn't

SPEAKER_03he cheated on me with her his dad's Brides mate um and then bragged to me about it for [ __ ] a mil so actually that was nice uh um tried to slide in

SPEAKER_03with a dwarf hey there's nothing wrong that's kind of hot actually but she rejected him really good for her she got out of it small small victory she probably has a small

SPEAKER_03house she doesn't want yeah yeah he was a little man too oh he was a little man as well they awesome to but I mean had you guys had

Brian Atlasconversations you'd only been dating a month were there any actually overt conversations about being monogamous or did you just assume cuz some girls will

SPEAKER_03just assume no so it's was like Hey we're exclusive you are my boyfriend I am your girlfriend we are in a relationship an exclusive relationship saying I love you made very oh yeah

SPEAKER_03immediately not immediately but within a month is pretty immediately I don't know if it was in within a month we started dating pretty fast so we moved in before the I love you yeah okay but I mean I

SPEAKER_03don't know like I'll take PE anyone not anyone in but I've taken friends in maybe you should like wait a few month next not super serious in my mind and he didn't have anywhere to go was the thing

SPEAKER_03you know it wasn't like oh we're so locked in let's move in together it was like you're struggling and I want to help you and I love you so that's sweet was he your source of comfort at times

SPEAKER_03at times but then he came quite the opposite you have quite a good heart I think you do thank you I'm just shocked that the parents allowed this maybe you should do what

Brian Atlasshe's doing just touch somebody's dick and let them wait three months would be grade dating advice yeah I had a question but it slipped my mind um so

Brian Atlasokay he moved into your house um and so you guys were this is the on again off again one for like s months or whatever

SPEAKER_03and how he was living oh did your parents have to evict him no or how did this go down well after he cheated I was like get the [ __ ] out uh

SPEAKER_03so no my parents didn't didn't really have any involvement in that but um he just dipped yeah well okay that could have gone actually way worse but fny

SPEAKER_03will technically he legally had renters rights and [ __ ] first and then I found out he cheated on me oh he broke up he left he broke up with me uh in his car

SPEAKER_03or no in my car and he left his phone in my car after he left like hey yeah by now we're we're through right this

SPEAKER_03phone Oh I thought he called you ALB albino rude yeah uh but then I got curious I'm like what is this about this is out of nowhere and I had the password

SPEAKER_03to his phone I'd actually never gone through it before and I wow did you ask him for that password to get it at one point yeah but um I'd never

SPEAKER_03gone through it before did you think he was cheating then is that why you wanted it in the first place I mean you always suspected it do you you can tell when you can't trust in a relationship you feel it everyone has trust issues

SPEAKER_03everyone's going to be a little paranoid and I was at times but I tried not to Snoop because I wanted to trust him that's nice but it was like after is it

SPEAKER_08is nice to want I guess we're broken up now so who cares and Mike Davis donated $200 thank you Mike Davis don't trust this female she always knew he was a

SPEAKER_08narcissist TEF boy but she liked the bad boy and it was okay until she became the victim but what she'll still go back to the [ __ ] if he slides in you're

SPEAKER_03entitled to your opinion to that wait no it he wasn't the [ __ ] it was no he was a bit of a [ __ ] as well he tried to what was how said he was tall he was 5'5 so that's what maybe you could consider

Shane Smithwithin the realm of M dude this guy is no money no house 5 five and crushing it in the DMS what is going on see a photo

Tamaraof him maybe he's funny maybe he's funny he did have a face card he had a good face Tom is he like funny he make you laugh come on no a lot of fun you can

Brian Atlasback no maybe he's like very funny wait so was he also like did you meet him at the boarding school too was he kind of troubled you no no no no he was straight from Tinder into the mic oh straight

Brian Atlasfrom Tinder okay did he do drugs as well oh yeah was he your dealer oh so hold on going back to this so you said that what

Brian Atlaslanded you one of the things that landed you in boarding school was the use of uh certain illicit powder was there other drug use too or at the time for me

SPEAKER_03closer closer to the mic into the mic yeah at the time uh I I don't do I really want to go into this yeah go ahead all I safe space I wasn't like

SPEAKER_03hooked on anything but I was doing stuff here and there xan's cocaine which is was my downall fall and just I'm just curious like you said your parents are

SPEAKER_03still together they live in the same household uh was the home life good or you just got it's been Rocky but I actually have a really great relationship with both my parents now cuz some people like have good parents

SPEAKER_03but they get in with the wrong crowd no I yeah it was I think a lot of different things but um okay my household hasn't always been

Brian Atlasperfectly stable and healthy okay no um so in any case you've been single for 9 months yes but have there been any guys in the picture during that 9mon period i

SPEAKER_03dat guys and girls um and so are are you by yeah okay uh I've had some like flings hookups situation kind of things

SPEAKER_03is there anybody picture serious with anyone right now um a guy a girl couple I don't know maybe do you have a roster not really do you have a single person

SPEAKER_03on the roster kind of I kind of like to stick to one person guy or girl like at the moment yeah a

Tamaratransgender them so long to answer I was like maybe it's transgender well SEC just I'm just you're currently talking to this person I don't even like have one

SPEAKER_03specific person in mind I just oh there's multiple people then no oh my God does he has like a personal disorder I don't know who's watching this so I'm I don't know who's watching this right

Shane Smithnow so I'm just trying to be careful with what I say I meanor say you're being careful anyone who's dating you watching this is saying I don't care about my I he can he can hear all of this

SPEAKER_03oh um no no no about the one I'm like through with not the but you're dating one right I'm not dating anyone right now I so you've had carnal knowledge

Brian Atlasrecently I've had what carnal knowledge carnal knowledge car knowledge you known someone biblically biblically carnal knowledge smashing okay p and the V yeah

SPEAKER_03doing the hu to on his stick and stuff you know what the okay I'll say more of v in the v not p in the v oh V in the v wouldn't be

SPEAKER_03more like well I guess and V on the V yeah work out as well as it does it should in theory um all right that's cool and and um completely honestly but you get the point and then just going

Brian Atlasback to you really quickly is there anybody currently in the picture at all somebody you're talking to um

Brian AtlasI I actually did download hinge so like I'm on there um okay there guy you're going out on dates

SPEAKER_03with or with or anything like that no one in particular like I'm kind of looking is but like not okay furiously so there is a guy that you're

SPEAKER_03seeing and H there's and doom Dr no I'm kidding um all right what about you oh I'm single right now and I think I've been single for like a year and a half probably okay um and the longest relationship because I am pretty young I

SPEAKER_03feel like if you consider like my adult like serious relationship is probably like 6 months-ish um which was like the one that ended like a year ago mhm and he I found he was cheating on me with

SPEAKER_03boys um in transexual women or yeah women and I'm fine with that I told him like D I told him like cuz I'm a I'm bisexual and I'm an open person and I'm I'm down with that you

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