Brian Made Her PUKE?! Reformed HØE?! Woke Girl Came To DESTROY Brian In A DEBATE?! | Dating Talk 277

Date: 2026-01-12

Duration: 10h 20m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CCourtney King >

JJamie Ericson >

AAlisa Tresenov >

TTabitha Chang >

KKatie (Model)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_03Courtney King / Jamie / Ava(guest)

SPEAKER_04Alisa Tresenov(guest)

SPEAKER_06Lada(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Katie(guest)

SPEAKER_12Tabitha Chang(guest)

SPEAKER_13Annie (HR)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Levi(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 9 guests introduce themselves

Key MomentBrian's 7-point argument for not performing oral sex

ControversyFirst ever vomiting incident on the Whatever Podcast

Key MomentAva: drunk on Jose Cuervo, stabbed herself, beat up 3 people, jail

QuoteLada demands $10M/year minimum husband income

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

9 guests including Levi (male), Lada (18yo Russian rapper).

Jamie Relationship

Met boyfriend at 11, 3 kids, cheating history.

WoW Dating Analogy

Brian's World of Warcraft meta analogy for dating strategy.

Brian's Oral Sex 7 Arguments

Extended 7-point argument for not performing oral sex.

Vomiting Incident

First vomiting incident in show history.

Ava Stabbing/Jail

Stabbed herself drunk, beat up 3 people, jail.

Body Count Round

Range from 3 to 55+.

Transcript

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Brian Atlashim would otherwise would be in a relationship with you but I also I'm just sharing my perspective something that's analogous to your situation I don't really believe in waiting I'm

Brian Atlasnot saying it has to be that like the first time we hang out but if uh if I know a girl I'm dealing with like she the last guy she dated her

Brian Atlasprevious boyfriend, she hooked up with him on the first or second date and you want to make me wait 3 months. I'm going be like, I don't think she's all that interested. I don't think she has that desire. I feel it's a raw deal. It's

Brian Atlaskind of like I guess let me ask you women this. Uh, and women do this a lot, by the way. This is like a really consistent thing women do where you will have and look, it's life's not fair,

Brian Atlasright? Different people get different treatment. It is what it is. Um, how would you feel though if uh how's the best framing for this? Well, what's interesting is this.

Brian AtlasSometimes with this this uh waiting for sex thing, you women will say, "Oh, that guy wasn't serious." >> Mhm. >> So, I gave him [ __ ] right away. Like,

Brian Atlashe was just for fun. Like, I wasn't >> like he was a jerk. He was an [ __ ] >> Wait, so hold on. You reward You reward

Brian Atlasthe guy who we would argue was the least deserving of sex. But now here I'm the guy you want a long-term relationship with. Shouldn't Shouldn't the guy that

Brian Atlasyou want the long-term relationship with be the guy that you reward sexually? >> Honestly, no. I It's the thing I don't

Brian Atlasreally want a long-term relationship in general. Like I don't I don't like it's >> mentioned the phenomenon I'm talking about here is that women will have one

Brian Atlasnight stands. Women have will have friends with benefits. Uh women will have uh you know casual sex and then they'll say, "Oh, that guy, he was just casual. He was um

Brian Atlasuh it was just for fun. It it wasn't anything serious. I don't I didn't care about him, but I really care about you, the guy who I want to have a long-term relationship with. We have to wait three

Brian Atlasmonths. And it seems so completely backwards, like you shouldn't have given sex to this guy who was a jerk or a dick or who you knew who who was a [ __ ] boy. I get that he was exciting and hot and

Brian Atlasattractive, >> but uh you gave him sex and here I am the guy who's prepared to give you commitment, prepared to do all the things that like uh he wasn't. It's it's

Brian Atlasjust uh this interesting dynamic. It'd be the the example I like to give is um imagine like a man who had a reputation of spending. I I know some

Brian Atlaswomen don't care that much about like gift giving or whatever or providing, but I think most women care about providing. So imagine a man who had a reputation for spending obscene amounts of money on women he had like no

Brian Atlaslong-term interest in, but he just wanted to [ __ ] them. But then when he dates you, he says he won't spend a dime on you until you prove yourself to him.

Lada>> Actually, I do see something. So from the first of all, like starting with the woman who does that, for instance, not not me, but just a woman who would do that like

Lada>> hook up with a guy right away, but then he has to wait three months. that person who has to wait 3 months, maybe she is studying him like as a person because if

Ladathey hooked up one day, they might never meet again. So they might not know each other in future life. But in this instant, if you want to like actually study a person, find out about what's

Ladahis habits, what does he do, what does he like, what are his intentions, if you're actually interested in like a long-term relationships. So that way I

Ladawould say [snorts] those three months would be her essentially studying the person or him studying her. >> Well, I mean I I just Okay, how about

Brian Atlasthis? So the girls that I just see as just pure [ __ ] let's assume that's the case. I don't like one night stands, but let's just say I was into that. That I

Brian Atlasthat's just sex. I just want to [ __ ] her once. I did all the extra [ __ ] I bought her flowers. I got her gifts. I took her out to a fancy dinner. And then when I

Brian Atlascome along and meet you, the girl who I claim that I want something serious with, I want a relationship. I want to be boyfriend girlfriend. I take you to McDonald's and I never give you gifts. Wouldn't you as a woman be like, >> "What the

Brian Atlas>> Hold on. >> I'm your I'm your girlfriend. I should get the gifts, the trips, the vacation, the nice dinner. You gave that

Brian Atlasto some [ __ ] hoe. You gave that to a hoe and I'm your [ __ ] girlfriend. You women would be pissed. And I'm trying to say that's kind of like I don't know. That's how I feel. That I think that's

Brian Atlashow men feel about this. I'm the guy here who wants to be your boyfriend. >> And you want to you want to give it away to [ __ ] boy? The the [ __ ] boy. You want to give it away to Sway Lee who just

Brian Atlaswants to [ __ ] you and use you. >> Who said that? who's got 20 other dudes, right? Let me ask you a question. Would you [ __ ] Sway Lee right away? [laughter] You're 10. That's [ __ ] crazy. Would you [ __ ] Sway Lee?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Okay. Do you think Sway Lee, Be honest, Sue Lee, a [ __ ] I I don't think I've listened to his. Do you think the rapper Sway Lee is going to wants to be your uh

Brian Atlasboyfriend girlfriend with you? >> I I'll have to ask you. >> I think so. >> Okay. Do you think look I mean look you're you're an attractive gal maybe. Who knows? But like I think these

Brian Atlasrappers they're kind of known for getting around a little bit. >> I mean maybe that's the only >> you think. But but like um >> so so Sway Lee, right? >> Right.

Brian Atlas>> Oh wait, [ __ ] I lost. Oh my god. I had something so good but I just lost it. Um >> it's okay. I need >> [ __ ] It was so good. >> It'll come back. >> Okay. Wait, wait, wait. So I was asking,

Brian Atlaswould you have sex with Sway? [ __ ] Oh my god. I lost it. I'm [ __ ] >> Relationship with her. >> Damn it. >> It's okay. >> Um, you would have sex quick with Sway. What were you saying before that?

Lada>> Well, studying. >> You asked if he would get into a long-term relationship with me or not. >> Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I don't think he would. >> Well, maybe that's because you said

Ladabecause they're rappers, they usually not That's biased opinion. So you think that's you think a girl like goes to [ __ ] Chris Brown like she has she's has an expectation he's going to be loyal

Brian Atlas[laughter] >> you think girls [ __ ] rappers and athletes like they they know what the deal is. They know what they know what the deal is. >> You never know though. >> Okay. You never know. Oh my god. I had

Brian Atlassuch a [ __ ] good point. I hate myself. Oh my god. I'm It was so good and I've completely lost it. It was something about Sway Sue Lee and I was going to do some [sighs and gasps]

LadaDamn. What was it? >> Sorry, I could have a moment of silence. I need to do a moment [laughter] of silence. >> Uh, >> I actually think you make a very good

Katiepoint though to that to that whole thing like cuz I've done I will say I've been that girl. I've done both. I've I've withheld and I've not for extended periods of time. Mhm.

Katie>> And actually to your point, kind of to study the person and so maybe I should really rethink my strategy here.

Courtney King / Jamie / AvaI don't know what if like now I'm thinking of this like what if the girl she's like or guy and it's like this in the beginning they're hooking up with

Courtney King / Jamie / Avathese people and they're going on these one night stands and then they meet this person and they're like after no let me backtrack. They go on these one night

Courtney King / Jamie / Avastands and then then they're like wow maybe I shouldn't be doing this. maybe I should be trying to meet the right person and they meet this person, they're like, "Okay, I'm going to make

Brian Atlasthem wait." What if it's like that? >> Uh, so I think it is fair to have a a change of approach so long as it's

Brian Atlasgenuine. Uh but I think that it would be frustrating as a guy to encounter for example like let's say I meet a girl and I like her and she likes me and she

Brian Atlasmakes me wait and then I find out uh oh a week before she met me she [ __ ] Sway Lee [laughter] and like if for example I would be incredibly frustrated if I was dating

Brian Atlasher for example and she's like well Brian uh you're a swell guy and we're going to uh we're I don't know I'm going to investigate you and uh we're going to we're going to wait 6 months and I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to feel you out and and then uh we can you're going to have to invest all this time and energy and take me on a date. >> Take me on dates and do all XYZ and do

Brian Atlasall the cute boyfriend. Oh, you want to go uh [ __ ] uh surfing? We go um >> skating. >> Ice skating and all the [ __ ] Oh my god. [gasps]

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, I'm going to ask. >> And then and then I find out Hold on. Sway Lee. She [ __ ] Sway Lee in [ __ ] an hour. She's She's some groupy

SPEAKER_08backstage. It's a complete asynchronous asynchronous [ __ ] I'm trying to say

Brian Atlas>> something, whatever. Figure it out. >> And uh it would just be so off-putting. And I think a lot of women will move that way though. They'll be like

Brian Atlasit would I don't know. It's [ __ ] up. Y'all [ __ ] up. >> Well, that's crazy [ __ ] I mean, >> y'all be y'all be giving the guy like,

Brian Atlaslook, ultimately the point is I would say to you, Sway Lee, I saw a photo. I don't know that [ __ ] guy. [laughter] This guy is probably for

Brian Atlasnot very deser I don't know if deserving is the right word here. This guy doesn't want to be your commit to you. You're going to give him some [ __ ] for for for nothing? You just I don't know. That's

Brian Atlascrazy. By the way, you can do better. Come on. What the [ __ ] you weirdo? What's [laughter] going on in Russia? Y'all Russians are [ __ ] >> Oh my god. >> There's not enough black guys in Russia. What the [ __ ] She's She sees one black

Brian Atlasguy. One She sees one black dude and like all she she hasn't she's never se for 15 years she lived in Russia, never saw a black person. the first black guy she sees, she's going to [ __ ] him, right? It's crazy,

Courtney King / Jamie / Avabro. She's never seen that before. >> Anyways, look, you could do way better. By the way, maybe try you could try um I don't know who's like >> Chopper or something. >> Annalie. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, >> someone of substance, not by a finger.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> King Vaughn. King Vaughn is attractive. King Von is dead, but he's attractive. [laughter] >> Idris elbows. We're talking about like on an attractiveness level, King Vaughn is attractive,

Brian Atlas>> but like imagine that, right? You're some like let's say you're some like a good guy and you see this striking Russian lady and you don't know that like the week before she [ __ ] Lee like

Brian Atlas>> and like Sway like he's in he's in his like [ __ ] dressing room or whatever before the show and like he's got a he like some chick like sucked his dick right before and then like Sway comes

Brian Atlason. He's off. He's [ __ ] off of the what is it? The the the the scissorp or what do they call it? >> Scissor. [laughter] >> That's Sorry, I'm a [ __ ] g I'm millennial. The lean. Yeah, the lean.

Brian Atlas>> Purple drink. >> Sway is off the [ __ ] lean and he like with like a partially flaccid penis has sex with you cuz he's on drugs, right? So you can't even get fully erect. He

Brian Atlaslike [ __ ] you and he's like get the [ __ ] out, [ __ ] And then that was you. And then I have to be the I have to show up on the knight in shining armor. I have to show up with my chivalry and my

Brian Atlashorse and come [clears throat] and I have to do all the [ __ ] lame [ __ ] s boyfriend [ __ ] and I got to wait 3 months. And then I found out [snorts]

Brian Atlasy'all [ __ ] Sway Lee. I [laughter] did all this [ __ ] I did all this [ __ ] >> Oh my gosh.

Brian AtlasI thought this woman was my she was my uh she was my what what's the right term >> my diamonds my flow >> and she [ __ ] sued Lee [laughter]

Brian Atlas>> I got to do all this [ __ ] it's like again I I'll repeat the other one imagine a guy who he's like I love you babe you're the one I want to be with you this I could see this going the

Brian Atlasdistance I you're you could be the future wife of uh or mother of my kids [snorts] like I love you. D and uh but then you find out uh but by the way he

Brian Atlasnever takes you on dates. He doesn't give you gifts. Whatever your love language is, I don't know. He he doesn't seem all that emotionally intelligent. Blah blah blah whatever. But then you find out he was whatever

Brian Atlasthe your love language, whatever the things that you would want a guy to do, he didn't really do much of them, but he did all of it just so he could hit some hood rat once. Like imagine I'm just

Brian Atlassome [ __ ] trumpet, you know? Some look, we got some classy women here. Very classy, right? Imagine some guy who's like, "Oh yes, my dear. I am going to make love to you or I don't know. That's sorry, that's was so cringe. I

Brian Atlasapologize." >> I don't know. He's like, "My dear, >> my dear." [laughter] And then, you know, you find out that he like [snorts] he [ __ ] some like he he did all this

Brian Atlas[ __ ] He He got gifts and he spent money and he took some some some hood wrap to [ __ ] Hawaii and like you he never Oh my Wouldn't you be upset? >> Okay.

Katie>> Okay. No. So, I actually what's funny is the guy that I was with for a year and a half, that was like kind of the situ I don't know what he did with his past relationships, but um

Katieyeah, we never went on any dates or anything. And he didn't really like um [clears throat] recognize me as his partner for a really long time. But I was like, I'm going to do something different. I really like you. I'm going

Katieto commit to you. And you know, we're going to in my head do the thing and I'm going to be exclusive with you. like we were exclusive with each other, but there was none of that exchange. And ultimately, like the dynamic was fine,

Katiebut at the end of the day, the reason we broke up is cuz he literally a year and a half later after moving in with me looked at me and said, "Yeah, I don't take you seriously." And I was like, "Then why the [ __ ] are you here?"

Katie>> Mhm. >> Like, what are you doing? Why are you here? And then we broke up. And then he was like, I you're the woman that I want to have my babies and you should be oh so happy. And I was like, this doesn't make any sense. This is so confusing.

Brian Atlas>> He doesn't know himself at this point. >> So yeah, I mean upset is how I did feel. So that's valid. >> Yeah. It's like I don't know the guy who's like, "Oh, this could be the the mother of my children or this is could

Brian Atlasbe the girl I spend the rest of my life with and he like doesn't do any of this nice [ __ ] for you." But then like the chick that he claims he doesn't really whatever. She was just for fun. He did all this [ __ ] Uh we have some chats coming through. I'm going to have you read this one.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Okay. >> All right. All right, then we got to blast through a bunch of >> Should I read the name as well? >> Sure. Yeah. >> Ethan Williams 3694 donated $100. Brian, love the podcast. >> Um, keep up the good work for the panel.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Into the mic. Into the mic. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Keep up the good work for the panel. Is a guy with an ankle monitor/felony a turn off or a turn? Where was it? Turn on. >> Turn on. >> Doesn't matter what the felony is. So,

Brian Atlasokay. Would you How about this? Would uh maybe we can just do show of hands. Would you date a guy with a ankle monitor? So, like on the house arrest. [laughter] >> Yes. Is your current boyfriend?

Brian Atlas>> Well, what did he do? >> What would we meet? >> Uh, >> well, he just got the ankle monitor while I was already with him. >> No, you meet him. You meet him. You're single. you meet him and he you see the

Brian Atlasankle monitor >> which means he's like you know >> I'd probably have some followup questions but I feel like even if he had >> show hands do you guys want to show your was it just you just me you would do it okay

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> only if it's tax fraud >> only if it's tax fraud there it is all right um here read this one >> I know Minnesota [laughter] >> for 100th time on show [snorts] men only marry a wealthy woman abolish marriage

Courtney King / Jamie / Avaand community property it will fix dating let The gold dig go way of the dodo bird. Any ays out there? I'm available. No prenup. >> Yo, David, good to see you, man. I haven't seen you in a while. Uh, good to

Brian Atlassee you, man. >> Uh, yeah, I think that's a that's a solution. That's a solution. Also, I'm with you on the AIS thing. >> Yeah, where's all these wealthy women sliding into my DMs? You know, it's crazy, you know. Not that I really care about that, but

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> messed up, >> you know. I don't really care about the money, you know. >> Okay, I have a question. But are we still on like the same topic? But big brother. >> Big bro. Yeah. We'll do one more then we'll move it on to

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Do you think [snorts] that someone who cheats on somebody can change and not cheat in the future?

Brian Atlas>> Logically, it's possible. Uh but I think it's valid to obviously end a relationship over cheating. >> For sure. >> But I think I think you can forgive the

Brian Atlasperson. Uh me personally, it's an instant breakup. Like I would instantly break up with her. >> Yeah. >> But

Brian AtlasI and I wouldn't advise men to accept infidelity. Um >> would you advise women to accept it? >> No. I Well, I would say this. I I would

Brian Atlasleave it up to your own preferences. Um as a woman, if you can forgive the man, that's fine. And if you want to break up with him, that's totally fine, too. Um,

Brian Atlasbut uh I here's a difference. Okay, this is going to get me in some hot water with you guys. >> Go ahead. >> I think and when I say I think I mean I know [laughter]

Brian Atlas>> I believe this is going to sound bad, but whatever. I just whatever. All right. Uh, I think if a woman cheats,

Brian Atlasshe can't love you anymore. >> Doesn't sound the chance. >> I I think that that is more an indictment of the state of the relationship.

Brian AtlasI think if a man cheats here, I'll frame it like this. If a man cheats, he can still love his woman. If a woman cheats, she does not love her

Courtney King / Jamie / Avaman. Do you think it would be different if the woman was cheating after the man had originally cheated and she was just like, "Oh, I'm going to get back at you." Do you think she can still

Brian Atlaslove him then, or is it just >> By the way, I'm I I'm speaking a bit in generalities. So, I mean, like, >> is it possible a woman could cheat and

Brian Atlasstill be in love with Yes. But I think more often than not, I think that uh a man can cheat. And hey, by the way, he's a piece of [ __ ] for it. You shouldn't cheat. It's wrong.

Brian Atlas>> It is. >> But I think a man can cheat and still be in love with his girl. >> I don't know if it's the case the other way around quite as often, but So,

Courtney King / Jamie / Avawhat's the question? Can >> um >> can a woman cheat in revenge? And then >> Yeah. Do you think she can still love the man if she's cheating in revenge?

Brian Atlas>> Look, forgi reconciliation, forgiveness is possible. Uh, I mean, I just think that's an L though for the woman. No, it's an L for the woman to

Brian Atlascheat. >> If he cheats, >> either end the relationship or stay with him. But cheating back that just >> seems like an L for you. >> It is. It's totally an L for me. I think

Courtney King / Jamie / Avayou >> your count. >> Yeah, exactly. Well, >> like I should >> No, I've never cheated like that. >> I mean, it would be it's it's [sighs] it'll be hurtful to the guy.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Like the guy doesn't want you to be sleeping with other men, obviously. So, your goal there is to hurt the man. So that's the uh that's the Oh my god, bro. I think I

Brian Atlashave Alzheimer. I'm [ __ ] dementia here. What is the [ __ ] What is the word for catharsis? >> I don't know if that's the right word. >> Can you explain

Brian Atlas>> catharsis? Like it would be >> people an emotional release. >> People have a drive [snorts] for revenge, right? And so there would be a catharsis in getting revenge like

Brian Atlas>> I guess >> like an impulse like >> and also you you also there's an impulse you want to hurt the person that hurt you right so I understand that impulse but

Brian Atlas>> ultimately in terms of your standing I just just [ __ ] some dudes I just that seems like yeah it's like a double-edged sword like okay he's going to be hurt but like that's just an L for the girl.

Brian AtlasYeah, >> it's an L for the girl. >> Yeah, I agree. >> Yeah, it's almost like for example, like if a this is kind of niche, but I've

Brian Atlasheard women say they [ __ ] a guy to get revenge on him. Like it was a hate [ __ ] and I'm like >> the guy she's [ __ ] >> No, no, no. Like she's say she's single, >> okay? >> And there's a guy that she really

Brian Atlasdoesn't like and she's like, "I'll show him. I'll [ __ ] him." I'm like, >> "Where are you meeting these women? What [laughter] the fuck?" >> I'm like, "That's not a W for you." Like, you gave him a W kind of unless >> Unless she has an STD or something. >> Yeah. Unless she had herpes.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. And it's >> But I'm like, that's not the win you think it is. That's an L. >> How is that a win at all? >> You got to explain. >> What the [ __ ] >> Maybe you girls can tell me like what's like a spite [ __ ] I don't know. You know what I mean?

Brian Atlas>> No, >> I I would never [ __ ] somebody despite them. >> Blessing. You know what I mean? Spite [ __ ] Who's done the spy [ __ ] >> You must have like a really like >> spite [ __ ] >> She raised her hand over there.

Annie (HR)>> Oh, Mary spite [ __ ] [laughter] >> I don't know. I've heard I've heard girls say this. It's a spite [ __ ] >> Multiple >> multiple. No, just I don't know. >> Multiple girls. >> How about pity [ __ ] Was she like

Brian Atlas>> like like maybe how about this? It could be like uh I I don't know if this would even be like how about this? She slept with him and then

Brian Atlasassuming that she thought that the guy had a long-term interest in him, but she wanted to play with his mind. She [ __ ] him once and then discarded him. >> Oh, okay. That makes a little bit more sense. >> So, like the guy's kind of all like

Brian Atlasbummed out because he didn't get the girl. Like, well, >> slept with her, but he >> I mean, he [ __ ] her. It's a win either way. >> He still kind of won. >> Yeah. >> Like, still hit. >> Still hit. Literally.

Brian Atlas>> So, I don't know. This is I don't know. Wait, what did we have next? Marry the bow. Is that all right? [laughter] >> Yeah, let's do the bow. So, okay. Somebody you were asking me what I wanted in a woman. I took a video

Brian Atlasactually I'm very autistic about when I'm dating women. Uh so I actually of a girl I used to date knowing that I would

Brian Atlaseventually break up with her. I took a video of her doing what I want her to do so I could show my future girlfriends get in line. Like get get with the

Brian Atlasprogram. Oh my. This isn't like >> not like a line like a >> a line of people like get in line get with the program. >> So it's like an instru

Brian Atlas>> instructional video, you know, because I think sometimes women do better with um >> you know like a visual aid. >> Sometimes [laughter] just saying the words isn't enough. You have to show them. You have to demonstrate. So okay,

Brian Atlasgo ahead. Play the video. This is my ex-girlfriend. >> Uh I show this to all future girlfriends so they know. That's crazy. >> Boom. >> Huge bow. You see the depth? Submissive hand posture. She has to bow. As soon as

Brian AtlasI walk through the door after a long podcast recording session, I need a bow. And then >> is this a skit? >> This is 100% real. Of course. >> So, she has to have my dinner ready.

Brian AtlasDinner ready. Of course, I'm taking care of everything, my apartment, whatever. She has to have my dinner ready. Has to crack open a beer for me. And um >> even mix up your noodles. Just look at that. >> She does that, too. Get ready to play

Brian Atlasone more time. No. Pull it back up. >> She could have mixed the noodles a little better. >> Pull it back up and then plate. >> Just [laughter] plate. Boom. >> Nice. The bow. The bow is the big thing.

Brian AtlasAll that other [ __ ] whatever. That's bare minimum. Bare minimum. The bow. She's got a bow. Cultural appropriation. Oh, the bow. Who had to the bow? You had to disagree with the bow. Okay, we'll do

Brian Atlaswe'll get into that. Uh, yeah. So, I I believe in cultural appropriation. You know what? [ __ ] that. I believe in cultural reinvigoration.

Brian Atlas>> I don't think that's the right word. >> I would need an elaboration. >> What? >> So, historically, you know, you might say, well, that's a Asian thing. The

Brian Atlasbowing thing, that's Asian culture. >> Back in the day in Western culture, I am >> realing. Am I just

Brian Atlas>> reliving? Is something wrong with me? Re Renaissance. [clears throat] Renaissance. No. Uh, what what h what's the thing with a phoenix? >> We need a time with rebirth.

Brian Atlas>> Rebirth. >> Reincarnate. >> Rebirth. What do >> rise from the ashes? [laughter] >> The bow was part of western culture historically. >> I'm bringing it back. Revive.

Brian Atlas>> Revive. >> Revive. I'm reviving every video. It's not even cultural appropriation. I'm just cultural revival. Cultural revival. >> Okay. >> So, yes, I expect she happened to be Asian.

Brian Atlas>> What about curtsying? >> She happened to be Asian, I think. >> Nah, I don't like curtsy. I don't like a curtsy. >> What does it signify like culturally? >> Oh, I don't know. Culturally, but uh

Brian Atlas[laughter] it it's a show of respect. >> Okay. >> It's a show of respect. And in today's day and age, you know, it's it's it's often kind of hard to meet a woman who

Courtney King / Jamie / Avawill respect >> you on that level. >> Do you not believe that? >> Uh huh. >> Do you not believe that a woman can

Brian Atlasrespect you without bowing to you? >> She can, but it's better if she bows. >> It's just his [clears throat] preference. I get it. >> What's that song from?

Brian AtlasIs it Panic at the Disco? Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking off her clothes. But it's better if she does. >> I have no idea what you're talking about.

Brian Atlas>> I don't know. Whatever. I don't know. I'm forgetting. Look, I'm just saying. >> I'm just saying I So, who who would anybody who would bow for a man? >> Yeah. >> You would bow. Bow. No. Bow. You would bow. Bow. >> Uh >> just the bow.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Just Just just a bow. >> I don't see that big deal. That's the thing. Like if >> it's nothing. >> I really getting older. You don't want to. You shouldn't have to. And then you can find somebody else who doesn't.

Annie (HR)>> Absolutely. >> Who doesn't want that? I think I bow emotionally to a man. I don't know if I would bow physically to a man. Do you get on your knees and do whatever? That's the same.

Tabitha ChangIf he my husband asked to like try I would try it but if it >> reluctant it would be a reluctant bow >> didn't really work out then I would hope that he would be willing to find another way cuz

Brian Atlas>> wait quick call back it's not begrudging [ __ ] I mean it could be but it's reluctant so long ago >> reluctant also bad sorry continue I didn't

Lada>> Oh [laughter] my god >> so old I feel like only if I wanted to like bow like if someone's making Bob like no. >> Yes, I so I agree with you. I don't like

Brian Atlasthis. This isn't some like domination thing where like >> I've got you know how like you got to break a horse. >> I don't want to do No, you want to do it.

Brian Atlas>> That's you want to do all this [ __ ] That's how it should be. You know, it's like with a [ __ ] Like it's like the woman like it's better. Look, if she does it and you know she does it. Well,

Brian Atlasno. I don't want it out of obligation or duty. You should You need the dick. >> Yeah, >> you need the dick. Like, you need to suck the dick. >> All right. Really quick, though. >> Or or even for sex. It's not like,

Brian Atlas"Well, I guess I'm going through the motions that is expected of me in a relationship." No. Like, you need my dick in and around your vagina. Like, you need the dick. You need the dick. Not just you want the dick. You need the dick.

Brian Atlas>> I think we got [laughter] it. >> You said, not vagina. >> I got to clarify. I got some >> I got to keep things clear, you [laughter] know? >> Like I don't know. Y'all look, if the girl Look, um >> the girl's got to have some enthusiasm

Brian Atlasabout it. Like if the girl's on the fence, >> like >> No, no. Well, the girl doesn't even have to do much, but she's got to whatever it is that we're doing, she's got to want like she's got to

Katie>> be enthusiastic. >> Consent. I think maybe like the ladies that are like married and long-term committed relationships here can relate to this cuz you were like, "Yes, I'll do that." But you're also mentioned that

Katieyou're super obsessed with your husband, which is beautiful. >> So, you'll do anything. So, like maybe and you as well, maybe you guys can relate to that. But I don't know. I've

Annie (HR)never I've never ever been in a with a man that made me want to bow to him. A lot of times I'm like, >> "Does the guy bow back? Is that >> I would never allow my I would never allow my man to bow to me. I would never

Courtney King / Jamie / Avaallow that. >> Absolutely not. >> I have a question. >> Um >> is it about the bow? >> Yeah, kind of. If can I have my man tip his little hat? Cuz that's an old c cultural thing.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Oh, he's like for respect like Yeah, like a little [laughter] like a little >> my lady madam. >> No. No. >> That's That's lame. That's lame. Of course not.

Lada>> I do. We need like a time machine at this point because we're going back back back in history. >> But it's culturally respecting people. >> I mean, I think the equivalent of that is men opening a doors for you, men like doing acts for you. >> Fedoras are

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Nobody wears hats anyway. You know, >> if men are wearing fedoras these days, they're probably a little fruity. >> Yeah, it's a bit bright. >> I was going to say >> I don't know. I look. So, wait, who would bow for the man?

Katie>> No. No. I think it's I I really think it's dependent like if a man like >> he asked you >> I think if he was a a manly man assertive enough and I was like oh my

Katiegod yes um and he was I don't know I've never really met a man that just made me >> I don't know all like that level of submissive I want to be but I've never met that guy.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Yeah. >> He has yet to show up within my existence. So >> who knows maybe >> I don't know if I was with If I was with a man and like I because if I was with

Courtney King / Jamie / Avahim, I would want to be with him. I would want to do those things for him. I would want to be submissive to him. I would want to >> make him happy and do anything I can to satisfy and please him. So

Annie (HR)>> yeah, >> meeting your man on top of the in front of the door with just lingerie is more submissive than just bowing to him. >> Did you not say that? M

Brian Atlas>> no because I think you could I think the bow is more submissive because like women wearing lingerie they just go out into public basically wearing lingerie

Brian Atlas>> like just to meet you like you know what I mean like >> I mean that would be sexy I don't know if it would be >> but to like you know like >> also who cares about oh my seen you naked 300 times oh my god she's in a

Brian Atlaslingerie I'm so >> what if she bows to you 100 times This is the 101st. Maybe a maid outfit. If she's in a maid outfit, then we can talk. But >> uh lingerie. That's so vanilla. Oh my god. Lingerie.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Okay, then change it to the maid outfit. Go wear a maid outfit. Or maybe I don't know what else. What's another outfit she >> What if he wants me to like greet him at the door in like a maid outfit and bow to him? Like that would be like perfect.

Tabitha ChangThat's good. Go for it. You should do it. Look, I'm just saying maybe the women you just give it a shot. Try it. >> Maybe it'll work. I prefer my husband to come in and give me a kiss and I have

Tabitha Changhis laundry done. I have dinner ready. I have everything ready. But I'd rather come home and feel like a connection as opposed to like my superior.

Tabitha Chang>> And I guess that's where I have that disconnect with the bow is to me as a respect. It's like a superior thing as opposed to >> I'm fine with that though. >> Like >> I'm fine with her thinking I'm the superior. >> Do you not think your man is superior to

Tabitha Changyou? >> Oh no, he is. I mean, he's my he's the bread winner. He's like the caretaker for the house and everything. It's just >> I also want our kids to see us connect

Annie (HR)cuz eventually it's just going to be the two of us again. I got to we got to stay connected for us. You know what I mean? >> So, I think the dynamic of the the relationship goes beyond the bow. So, let's say your kids see the bow. They're

Annie (HR)not just going to see that. They're also going to see like the way mommy and daddy talk to each other. It's it's it's not just it's just one small aspect. >> Yeah. And I I see the point of it. Like it's not that I like totally disagree

Brian Atlaswith it. It's more >> probably just not for me. >> It's curious. It's odd. I No. Hey, look. It is uh definitely culturally peculiar. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Uh perhaps in and of itself, it it's a bit peculiar. Well, I don't think so, but I see how other people would see it that way. >> I did remember something else I disagreed with you on too, though.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. But I'm also like not a like in some ways I'm very normal but in other ways I'm >> I go about things a special way. I'm special. I'm special.

Lada>> Honestly about that about that >> I'm a special guy. I think I have my witnesses, but you said that she does not have to be Asian, but then I have witnesses that you did mention Asians

Ladaand did if we were importing um like young Asian women, then that would be a [laughter] very good plus. And then the lady in the video also was Asian. So

Brian Atlasthat's controversial because I I do think that she has to be Asian for you. >> No. So well, okay. So, um, >> like not even >> like you've seen episodes or something or >> not. >> No, but where were you pulling the you

Brian Atlasheard you heard something like >> you said >> you said ABG before? >> Well, yeah. No, I did say that, but was there something like from a previous episode that you >> honestly >> or No,

Brian Atlas>> I might have. Yeah, I I think like from one of the ones I saw, I was kind of getting at that. So, >> I mean, I like it. I like Asian women. I like white women. I like Latino women. Um,

Brian Atlasyeah. >> But I think it's it's still like 99% that she has to be Asian. >> No, no, no, no. I mean, >> look, I uh >> 80 89%.

Brian Atlas>> No, I honestly I probably have like a >> Don't get me wrong, I think Asian women are very attractive. I think uh there can I mean it depends a little bit.

Brian Atlasthere can be certain general personality traits or alignment that manifests itself more so in Asian women uh whether

Brian Atlasthey're like Asian or Asian-American even uh more so than like your typical white woman I guess but I'd say my preference is more is actually more

Brian Atlastowards white women but that's not to say that I don't find Asian women also very attractive uh Latino women also quite attractive Uh,

Brian Atlasalso Italians who you have mistaken as Latino women. Italians are also attractive. Just want to >> clear break the ice.

Brian Atlas>> Good talk. Um, [laughter] >> but uh I don't know. Uh, white, Asian, I think, uh, yeah, they're all good.

LadaLatina, >> would you say that um Asian girls have >> more of like the education of your preference? So like >> education? >> I mean they are more

Brian Atlas>> probably more willing to >> I don't know bow >> in my opinion because I don't >> Yeah, it could. Yeah, I think it could be the case. >> Or Asian-American women are pretty much

Brian Atlaswhite women. like their I mean it depends like are their parents first generation immigrants like uh

Lada>> I'm just thinking for some reason I don't see a Latina bowing to anyone like [laughter] >> I don't either. >> I mean I I'll just say this. I've had

Brian Atlas>> white Asian and Latino women hit the bow. you made them. You probably had to like ask her a couple times. >> Well, it's hard because I'm in this kind

Brian Atlasof unique position where uh I don't know, for the past 3, four years or whatever since I started the podcast, uh my dating circumstances are kind of

Brian Atlasunique. So, like girls come to me. I'm not saying that to brag. just I have no >> I I mean just I mean I've shot my shot with girls in that time period too but

Brian Atlasum >> most men can't source from women coming to them >> uh because of my somewhat peculiar circumstances of being out there on the internet. girls do come to me and just

Brian Atlaslike you guys have had that [ __ ] on luck for a long time and it's way better like it's just way better to be the I don't know if chooser is the right word but

Brian Atlaslike you just have I you won't like the framing of this but you have more leverage if the person's coming to you you can dictate the terms you want to be

Brian Atlaswith me here's how it's going to be >> but if I match with a girl on Tinder, >> I'm not getting the bow. >> I might be able to get the bow.

Brian Atlas>> You might, >> but probably not getting the bow. Like, if I match with a girl on Tinder or like I approach some girl at the bar club, it's going to be I don't have the leverage there. Maybe down in the relationship. >> Will you bow for your billionaire girlfriend?

Brian Atlas>> That's what I was just going to say. >> Yeah, sure. [laughter] >> In a maid outfit. >> Billionaire. >> No, that'd be humiliation. I wouldn't do that actually. Wait, would

Brian AtlasI wear a dress [laughter] >> for like a [ __ ] millionaire? [ __ ] Hold on. Let me think about this. >> How far are you gonna >> I'm really against like humili Hold on. I'm really against like humiliation or

Brian Atlasdegradation stuff in either direction. Like if I'm dating a girl, like I don't know. Y'all are into some crazy [ __ ] Like girls, you want to be you guys want to be spit on and called [ __ ] [ __ ] and [ __ ] and like I don't know all this

Brian Atlascrazy [ __ ] Um, and I I am not into >> either direction degradation. Like certainly for me, like that's 100% no-go. >> Um, >> it's kind of boring.

Brian Atlas>> I wear a [ __ ] dress. That's boring. What? >> What the [ __ ] God damn it. God damn. These 18-year-old girls want to [ __ ] be degraded and [ __ ] That's crazy. >> No, it's just like boring. If >> you said slap you in the face during

Ladasex, >> they're both equal. Like they both like I don't know like respect each other all the time and they're like >> I don't know. >> Oh, I'll roast a girl like my girlfriend. I'll playfully roast her.

Brian Atlas>> I might call her [ __ ] if she does something [ __ ] but like it's never like it's never with like a malicious intent. Well, it's not even malicious, but it like I I don't want to degrade a

Brian Atlasgirl, especially in the bedroom. >> Even if she wants it, though. >> Okay, so here I'll give I'll give a caveat here. So I believe actually this

Brian Atlasis in somebody notes somebody's notes that we'll get to uh I do believe that okay so for example um sadism I'm not sadistic right in terms of like BDSM or

Brian Atlaswhatever >> okay taking notes >> if damn this girl this girl's you should okay send us your BDSM test score or whatever um

Brian Atlas>> it's got to take it first >> but uh if a girl once uh is turned on by like choking or some pain.

Brian AtlasI think even though it does nothing for like it wouldn't be something I seek out, it doesn't do anything inherently to for me to be sadist. So she's a massochist. Uh I have no interest in

Brian Atlasbeing a sadist or whatever. Um there are I think in furtherance of for the sake of the pleasure of your partner there are some things I think even if you're not into it for them uh I think you can

Brian Atlasdo it and if it turns them on that can be to some degree pleasing to yourself right if it's exciting for them turns them on I think part of being in a relationship would be um maybe it

Brian Atlasdoesn't do something for you but you love them and it does something for them within reason though like I'm never going to draw blood from my partner I'm not going to cut my partner. I'm not going to do gun play with my partner. I'm not going to do knife play with my

Brian Atlaspartner. I'm not going to >> She wants to be tied up. Sure. >> Uh that can actually be a bit fun, I guess. Um >> but like she I don't know. She wants to be like hit hard. No

Brian Atlas>> abuse. >> No. Won't do it. I don't care if it's her kink, if it's her turn on. Uh there's some guys or there there's some

Brian Atlasuh guard rails that I just even if she wants it I won't do it. Even if she consents, I won't do it. >> It's kind of a liability too. Especially

Brian Atlaslike if a guy especially as a guy like if you're a nobody, you're some dude and some chick wants to do CNC. I mean hold on. >> That's why it's called CNC though. What is that? If you're a guy who has

Brian Atlasanything going on in his life, under no circumstance should you ever do CNC. Even if you have a contract, even if like uh you have it on video, she's

Brian Atlassaying, "Yes, I want to do CNC." Under no circumstance should you ever do it. Or should you do rough like really rough [ __ ] with a girl. You have way too much to lose as a guy. Now, if you're some

Brian Atlas[ __ ] nobody bomb, you still shouldn't do CNC, but like rough stuff, I guess you can do. But it's just a massive liability for men to um plate women's I

Brian Atlasdon't want to kink shame, but like plate your sort of demented sexual fetishes and kinks. >> Mhm. >> What is CNC? I'm sorry. >> Consensual consensual non-consent. >> Oh, >> so like fake rape.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Oh, sorry. >> It's okay. Um >> sweetie needs therapy. >> Yeah. So, I think uh I think they're just at least I don't know. >> You said if they have preference that's

Ladaokay, but what if their preferences are just very weird? >> Like what? >> Oh my gosh. Like feet. >> Like what? What's your What's your thing? >> Oh, ew. >> Oh no. >> Hold on. I just I just Do you have a thing?

Lada>> No. No. I just This is a safe space. I just remember [laughter] I had this one guy, but that was like back in Russia and we literally just met

Ladaand he was like, "Can you like kiss me in my ear?" And I was like I was like, "What?" >> Like in the ear? >> Yeah. Yeah. And like kiss my ear like actually >> in the ear. >> Yeah.

Lada>> Cuz I the the earlobe is fine. >> No, actually like actually in the ear. I was like what? He was like, "Yeah, that's like my thing." I was like >> um >> I was like >> with your tongue. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Oh. >> Oh. >> And he would like repeatedly say that. I was like >> I mean was there ear wax? >> Like if [laughter] there's a I [sighs and gasps] if there was a taste

Ladathen >> taste. I was like that's the only I was like now I'm thinking about it. I don't know why I just thought of it but it's just so weird. Like who has >> Did you do it, >> girl?

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Did you do it as wild? >> It's okay. I've done it, too. >> She so did it. >> She so did it. >> But you won't bow. >> You'll stick your tongue in his ear but not bow. >> What the [ __ ]

Brian Atlas>> All right. Um, here. We need a blast. Oh, let's do Well, I got to wait until everybody's back to do the We got to do like the images and then we're going to do I'm going to do some of the show notes. Okay, Levi's gone. Ena uh Enya,

Brian Atlasgoing to your notes. Uh you married your husband after Damn, man. We >> We just got into >> so much. >> Yeah. Uh [snorts] you married your

Annie (HR)husband after only three months. >> That's right. >> Been together five years, going strong. Almost no. A little over four. Okay, girl. >> Let's go. >> Oh, what? Oh, my notes are all Wait.

Brian Atlas>> A little over four. >> It's been four since December 10. >> Damn. I had more notes for you, but they didn't get saved. I don't know why. Didn't Didn't you have Aren't you described yourself as like a reformed hoe?

Annie (HR)>> I Yeah. >> What? How? So, >> I used to be a liberal feminist [ __ ] and No. that and then I converted like slowly towards a more work. >> When you say hor like what were you

Annie (HR)doing? >> Like [ __ ] around like like you know like dick hopping like I was >> a carousel.

Annie (HR)>> Yeah, it was bad. Do not do that. >> Why do you think you did that? >> Because I like and I I grew up in the culture of like feminism and the culture

Annie (HR)of like this is okay. you your free body, you know, like go for it. And obviously I went to a liberal college, so like everyone around me was doing it. Not an excuse cuz it's like my decisions, you know, I make my

Annie (HR)decisions. No one else does. So >> you got to like take these into consideration. But yeah, like you I was doing that just to because everyone else was, you know, >> for a second. Okay. Okay. I get the fact that you were probably like young, >> but you said you converted. How was

Annie (HR)that? >> No, not there a conversion. No, as in like I around 2020, especially around like the the BLM stuff like I I really had like a lot more time to like reflect, you know, look at other sources

Annie (HR)and like a little later like that was the when I met my husband. So, like I moved in with him and I I just got a little bit more separate from all those like liberal influences and I just

Annie (HR)>> had time to like really self-reflect and you know look look at like other things because a lot of what I was seeing was my own liberal ideas. I didn't really even know what I was defending like what

Annie (HR)was I like believing in what was I acting under morally. Okay. So there was a whole like reflection process that it took a long time then you know >> so you had a wild college phase. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> You said you went wild in college. It was part of your journey. Yep. >> Journey. >> And you're a reformed hoe. >> Uh you made mistakes. You made bad decisions.

Brian Atlas>> You take responsibility for those actions. >> And uh let's see. you um [clears throat] you said that you lost your virginity before your first kiss. >> Totally true.

Annie (HR)>> How old were you? >> 19. >> Okay. And then what's the quick story there? >> So the guy that I was talking to like so I I just went right from like you know

Annie (HR)living a very like Filipino like don't do anything like I was very like shut in >> Catholic. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And so I when I got to college, I just went crazy because I finally had freedom that like a couple months later

Annie (HR)like you know like all right like I'm going to have sex because that's like you know what I just did. And then the guy though he was like I don't really kiss girls who are not my girlfriend. So

Annie (HR)the we had like we had set up a rule not to kiss and I accepted that >> and then like a couple months later like that's when I had my first kiss >> with a different guy. >> A different guy.

Brian Atlas>> You how? But that guy, did you continue seeing him? Like hooking up with him? >> I only hooked up with him. So I hooked up with him a couple times throughout college and then like once after. So it

Annie (HR)was like just like throughout years, but only a total I think of like three times, four times. >> That's kind of Is that a bit of a W for the guy? I don't know. >> Sure. >> Like I feel like that would be a

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> I was hitting a lot of L's. >> That that's like a achievement. Try to have sex with a girl without kissing her. >> Oh, no. That's actually kind of normal. >> Really? >> Yeah.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Like, yeah. If you're like not into the person, I've heard multiple times like, "We didn't even kiss, >> but we were [ __ ] it." I've heard it from couple of my friends. >> Well, I think it can be maybe this might

Brian Atlasbe normal. >> You kiss initially, but then you kind of not don't kiss as much. >> Yeah. >> Say this. I would feel disrespected. disrespected. >> Well, how can you Well, I guess you

Courtney King / Jamie / Avawould have to be a missionary to kiss. >> But a lot of people don't like that. >> Well, even working up to like foreplay or whatever, but >> Yeah, but how are you going to kiss somebody when there's stuff in your mouth?

Brian Atlas>> Okay. All right. Um I don't know. I think uh by the way, is it a dealbreaker if a guy won't go >> No. >> down >> on you? >> No.

Alisa Tresenov>> Is it a deal breaker? >> Probably. Yeah. I mean, >> rip. >> Probably not. No. >> Into the mic. >> No. I'd ask some questions. Might be a deal breakaker.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> No. Longterm, possibly. I would be like, why? What's wrong? >> Interesting. Okay. What about you? Okay. What about you?

Levi>> Into the mic, please. If they want you to give them like fellatio, then I assume that um you would probably be receiving it. And if not, then yeah, that would be a

Brian Atlasdealbreaker. >> Not a deal breaker. >> But if the guy didn't want it, would it not be a deal breakaker? >> Yeah. I mean, I think if it's like mutual, then I can respect that.

Brian AtlasI mean, I think it's I think it's we're not going to linger on this topic too long just for sake of time, but and I've also explained my position a whole bunch, but [laughter] >> yeah, that's kind of like in our brains

Brian Atlasright now. >> I don't know. I think it's uh I don't think it has to be tit for tat.

Alisa Tresenov>> I don't think it has to be tit for tat, but occasional tat would do. Oh, [laughter] >> I mean, do you eat puss? >> Damn.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, so, oh boy, I don't even want to. My explanations always take so long here. Let me just read my notes on it cuz I don't even want to linger too long. >> Just a yes or no question. >> Uh,

Brian Atlas>> hold on. So, okay, look, I'll just be honest. So, look, I actually highly value pleasing women >> and women's pleasure. >> That seems like

Brian Atlas>> I'll do anything. I'll do anything for love, but I won't do that. I won't do that. Um, but like look, I want the girl to come first. I want her to come

Brian Atlasmultiple times. I want her to come. I want her to enjoy it. But oral sex, I don't. It's You might think, why? He likes big labia. That doesn't make any

Brian Atlassense. I just It's not uh really my thing. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Exactly. >> I think that's fine. That's That's >> Maybe on Valentine's Day after our 10 year anniversary.

Brian Atlas>> Why >> 10 year anniversary? I'll do it once and then never again. It'll blow her mind and she'll she'll be she'll be looking forward to it on our 10 year anniversary and then she'll be thinking about it for

Katiethe rest of our time together. >> I have so many questions. Uh I'll narrow it down to one which is just why? Like you just don't like it. Like you're not good at it. Like you think it's submissive of you to go down.

Brian Atlas>> You feel like it's submissive. >> I'm just Can I'm just read off my notes otherwise I'm going to meander way too much. Okay. So I'm not grossed out by [ __ ] Love [ __ ] The bigger the bigger the [ __ ] the better. Well the labia anyways. Not

Brian Atlas>> oh >> not like looser but the [ __ ] lips. >> I I love [ __ ] Big fan. Uh so okay. Not grossed out by [ __ ] That's one. I'm not scared of [ __ ] either. Some people think I'm scared of the [ __ ] Not

Brian Atlasscared of the [ __ ] How do I call Hold on. How do I call it like [ __ ] phobia? >> Pussyophobia. Uh, okay. [laughter] So, I'm going to break down my seven arguments. I'm going to try to do them as quick as possible.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, oral sex is the leading risk factor for throat cancer in men. >> What the [ __ ] >> Men are four times as likely as women to develop throat cancer. Uh, Michael Douglas, famous actor, [ __ ] got

Brian Atlasthroat cancer. That dude was eating a bunch of [ __ ] in the 70s and 80s, maybe 90s, too. Um, so boundaries, boundaries number two. Reason number two, boundaries. Men are allowed to have

Brian Atlassexual boundaries just like women are. Um, and yeah, um, I think that's perfectly reasonable boundary to have. Women can,

Brian Atlasif a woman doesn't want to do it, that that's fine. It's better if she does, but um, boundaries boundaries. Uh, I also think this isn't so much a reason, but it's just something I like to point out. Hypocrisy.

Brian AtlasI think there's a clear double standard in terms of how sexual boundaries are respected depending on the gender. I think if uh you guys Well, actually, you guys were I don't know, maybe deep

Brian Atlasinside your head you're like, "This guy's gay." Um, I've had times where women just dogpile me because I I say I don't do it. Actually, I had some girl who was on the show previously. She saw

Brian Atlasa clip. She she saw a recent podcast where this topic came up and she got all buttthard about it. I'm not this not a girl I'm dating or whatever. She was like, "Eat it." DM'd me, "Eat it." [laughter] >> And I was like, "Imagine I was like

Brian Atlasthinking. I was like, >> she would probably be really upset if like some girl was like, "Hey, listen. Um, I just don't really enjoy doing oral sex." She'd be like, "Whoa, that's really like" and some dude DM'd her

Brian Atlaslike, "Suck dick." [laughter] I feel like there's a bit of a double standard there. I think if a woman was sitting here and she was like, "Yeah, I don't suck." Well, she was going about it as diplomatically and politely as I

Brian Atlaswas. She was like, "I don't." She said she didn't suck dick. You'd be like, "Yes, queen. >> Oh my god, I'm so You're so cute." Or whatever the girls do. Whatever. Um, you'd be like, "Yes, queen. Slay queen."

Brian AtlasUm, but I think you guys would be super bent out of shape if you like overheard some frat dudes having a conversation like, "Yo, if she doesn't suck dick, she's not worth dating.

Brian AtlasShe's probably a lesbian. You'd be like, "Oh my god, that's so immature." So, there's hypocrisy on this. There's hypocrisy. Um, let's see. Oh, other STD

Brian Atlasrisk. So, the throat cancer thing, that's HPV, but you can get other uh STDs, uh, you know, doing that doing that thing. And um I think the dating

Brian Atlaslandscape, no offense, you know, obviously this is a very classy panel we have here, but uh look, I think the dating landscape there are there are definitely good women, great women out

Brian Atlasthere who don't move like this, but you don't always know. So I think and this applies both ways, right? As a woman, you can also, you know, be

Brian Atlasproceed with caution. I think people are [ __ ] multiple people at the same time or in rapid con uh concurrence. I don't know if that would be the right word. Rapid

Brian Atlassuccession one after the other. >> Oh, you [ __ ] Billy Bob on Tuesday, didn't work out with him, you're back on Tinder, you're back at the club, you meet some new guy, you're [ __ ] him three days later, a week later. So,

Brian Atlasthere's STD risk. And look, I think a lot of women move. I think y'all be dealing with either multiple men or a lot of men, whatever it is, the STD risk, it's just

Brian Atlaskind of gross. But even if there's no STDs, I just think it's gross. >> Mhm. No. >> In Well, so sorry. Let let me There

Brian Atlasshouldn't have been a period there. I just think it's gross if if even if we exclude the STD component, if she's dating multiple dudes and sleeping

Brian Atlaswith multiple dudes. I know not all women do that, but either you recently [ __ ] a guy or you you're like simultane you're [ __ ] multiple dudes.

Brian AtlasNot saying all women move that like that. It that is disgusting. Like I'm going >> You're literally making me gag right now. Please stop. [clears throat] >> Oh my god. You should clutch your pearls. What? How?

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