Brian Made Her PUKE?! Reformed HØE?! Woke Girl Came To DESTROY Brian In A DEBATE?! | Dating Talk 277

Date: 2026-01-12

Duration: 10h 20m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CCourtney King >

JJamie Ericson >

AAlisa Tresenov >

TTabitha Chang >

KKatie (Model)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_03Courtney King / Jamie / Ava(guest)

SPEAKER_04Alisa Tresenov(guest)

SPEAKER_06Lada(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Katie(guest)

SPEAKER_12Tabitha Chang(guest)

SPEAKER_13Annie (HR)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Levi(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 9 guests introduce themselves

Key MomentBrian's 7-point argument for not performing oral sex

ControversyFirst ever vomiting incident on the Whatever Podcast

Key MomentAva: drunk on Jose Cuervo, stabbed herself, beat up 3 people, jail

QuoteLada demands $10M/year minimum husband income

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

9 guests including Levi (male), Lada (18yo Russian rapper).

Jamie Relationship

Met boyfriend at 11, 3 kids, cheating history.

WoW Dating Analogy

Brian's World of Warcraft meta analogy for dating strategy.

Brian's Oral Sex 7 Arguments

Extended 7-point argument for not performing oral sex.

Vomiting Incident

First vomiting incident in show history.

Ava Stabbing/Jail

Stabbed herself drunk, beat up 3 people, jail.

Body Count Round

Range from 3 to 55+.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasactual means with which you could have gotten laid in this case just because two things on this. So a woman who is

Brian Atlaslike socially [ __ ] or whatever. Um I also first off I think uh even even in that circumstance uh I would do a comparison men who are socially [ __ ]

Brian Atlasare really really offputting to women. Women who are socially [ __ ] might might be offputting to men but a lot of them are going to be like oh she's just kind of quirky or whatever and men will

Brian Atlasstill have sex with them. So this idea that women who are like socially [ __ ] or whatever, uh I kind of reject that. I think uh also women are

Brian Atlasgoing to have massive hesitations uh just even being in the presence of somebody who's so like a male who's socially awkward because then you're going to like it's going to trigger your safety thing. Whereas while men can be

Brian Atlasin danger by being in the presence of like [ __ ] unhinged women or whatever, uh typically in terms of social awkwardness, men have while women can definitely be

Brian Atlasviolent and can definitely be abusive and can definitely kill men. I I think it's fair to say men are less concerned

Brian Atlaswith that component. So, um, also I think when women are like autistic or whatever, uh, men are way

Brian Atlasmore forgiving of like social, I mean, I'll social [ __ ] retardation basically than, um, like women are really like if

Brian Atlasyou're a neur neurotypical woman and you're dealing like yo, you're not dealing with like a guy who's [ __ ] autistic, but a dude will definitely [ __ ] an autistic chick. For sure. For

Brian Atlassure. For sure. >> They'll [ __ ] anything. [laughter] This is true. There's porn. >> This is true. Like, it's really offputting as a woman. [laughter] Like, if a guy's socially dumb as [ __ ] like Yeah. You >> Oh, yeah. No. Socially awkward is >> Yeah. Women won't deal with that generally speaking.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Yeah. >> But do you have more? >> No, I agree. [laughter] >> I wasn't aware of the like access denied part of it. >> Yes. >> Or like we're trying to do it.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. I mean my view I guess my view is access denied is different than uh well wait what is it um

Katie[ __ ] I'm trying to remember what the uh >> I think even if you're not taught about sex like our natural biological being will tell us to have sex the urges are

Katiestill there and we still understand that >> this goes in here and something happens. Well, what if you're like what if you're like 14, 15, you're a virgin and you get

Courtney King / Jamie / Avainto like this car accident and you like lose the ability of your legs, you become brain damaged. That's like involuntarily like >> Okay, but this is like a that's like a 3% rarity.

Brian Atlas>> I will actually engage with you on this. So, um I think hold on, I'm just looking up something really quick. Um, >> how did you come up with that? How did you come up with that?

Annie (HR)>> I can come up with a lot of things. >> Um, >> I'm not going to ask. >> I don't know. Even if you're paralyzed from like the legs down, if any girl you just download or swipe right to everything, there will be someone.

Brian Atlas>> I mean, yes, you can. >> So, so I'll answer your question. And the the thing I was going to finish up on there. So, denying access is different than access denied. So women will deny access.

Brian AtlasLike guys will be like, "Want some dick? Nah, I'm good. You're not a fem cell." But if you're a person and you're like trying to get laid and the you're just not,

Brian Atlasthen you can be involuntarily celibate. Uh in your case, so a woman who uh is a quadripollegic even cuz you said just lose their legs. I'm going to go all the

Brian Atlasway quad quadripollegic. Yes. >> Full disabled. Yeah. She can get laid. >> She can get laid. >> You know what? I kind of believe that.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, look. If she's like uh let's say she's like uh average looking and she's a quadripollegic, she can go on Tinder, be like, "I'm a quadripollegic. I'm in a wheelchair." She can get laid that

Courtney King / Jamie / Avanight. >> Some guys will love that [ __ ] >> Yeah. No, I >> She will. >> Aren't you in the Only Fans industry? >> Yeah. No, I am. And I did. Just thinking about it now, there is a girl who is a quadripolgic who does Only Fans, I think. So,

Brian Atlas>> wow. I think great. Yeah. No. >> Oh my god. >> It complicates it complicates things obviously and it probably closes the door like but it closes the door, >> but it opens a lot of new ones.

Brian Atlas>> That is true. There are going to there are going to be some guys who [laughter] are actually like >> that's the case >> into that. uh they're into it's a little

Brian Atlascurious I would say but uh not to say that somebody who's disabled isn't deserving of love or even just sex or a

Brian Atlasrelationship but um there could be like a guy who has a king for that there could be some a little I would be a little suspect by it not but not

Alisa Tresenovinherently like you could just be like whatever you know >> I mean To each their own. >> Yeah. >> You know the movies where it's like the ugly girl can't get a guy no matter how

Alisa Tresenovmuch how big of a crush she has on someone until she like gets a makeover and then she's no longer >> celibate basically. So that's like involuntary celibates is going off of

Brian Atlaslike >> could be based off of looks or >> Well, I mean I think so I mean I would agree with you in so far as

Brian Atlasbecoming more attractive physically whether you're man or a woman is going to >> increase your uh sexual and romantic success and prospects. But I'm prepared

Brian Atlasto say that I think even really unattractive women, without even attempting to make efforts to improve their physical appearance, although it would be good for them, I'm very confident that

Brian Atlas>> I mean, just to make it super easy, within like a month they could get laid. And it's probably like >> I think a really unattractive woman could download uh Tinder or Hinge or, you know, go to a bar or club. that

Brian Atlaswould maybe complicate uh not complicate but that could take a bit longer if she was trying to do it in person. But if she downloads the dating app, almost any woman, even if she's obscenely unattractive, uh within a couple days, I want to say,

Alisa Tresenovcould get laid super easily. >> So, I guess my thoughts are leaning more towards women can't necessarily be involuntarily celibate. I'm just still trying to understand that question of itself.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, I think they can be voluntarily celibate. >> Yeah. like they can be viles. So it's like you are waiting. I mean basically I think that there's confusion but I think

Brian Atlasit's uh a woman is like not finding the caliber of guy that she would want to have sex with, right? But I think this

Brian Atlasidea that she couldn't find a guy of I'm not even saying she has to like >> the woman has to go and find some like [ __ ] >> who who's that guy from the Disney movie

Brian Atlasthe with the hunchback the hunch like I don't know she she doesn't have to date like a hunchback or something. I think I think >> almost any woman can find a man of >> I mean sometimes women have an

Brian Atlasoverestimated sense of their own attractiveness. any woman could find a guy who's pretty much her equivalent in terms of looks and have sex with him,

Brian Atlas>> right? >> If that's uh yeah, if she wanted to. So, or I mean, but here's the thing, right? I think

Brian AtlasI wouldn't hold that standard even to an incel. Like incels will even say, "Oh, you know, I'm say the incel's average looking." And he's like, "I can't get with average women." I'd be like, "Well,

Brian Atlasyou got to go one or two points down." They'll say, uh, I even if I go down, like even if I try to date a girl who's

Brian Atlaslike less attractive, uh, than I am, they still they still can't get it. So, uh, yeah, women I don't I personally

Brian Atlasdon't think. Now, is it logically possible that a woman could be involuntarily celibate? It's logically possible, but like I can't imagine a

Brian Atlasscenario where uh she hops on it like there would be geographic limitations. I don't know if she lived in I don't know where she would have to

Brian Atlaslive. I mean, maybe like Antarctica and there's like 30 people there and you like there's not but if she moved to like

Brian Atlasa reasonably populated area like I there's no woman there's no woman in a major city or even a medium population city who could not get laid. That's my

Annie (HR)position. Any disagreements? I don't know. What about you know incel men who pro who like kind of like get escorts which is you know common enough.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah that wouldn't that wouldn't count. There would have to be uh the the procure procurement of the sex cannot be financially a financial transaction

Brian Atlasbecause that would I would agree with you that even a guy who's an incel they could just get an escort like >> so then incel ship doesn't exist.

Brian AtlasNo, because uh because while the sex has to be um >> it's consensual,

Annie (HR)>> mutually desired. >> Mutually desired. The look the >> woman wants it cuz she's getting paid for it. >> She wants the money. She doesn't want the man. That's different.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. the the the the threshold has to be uh non a non-financial transaction essentially.

Annie (HR)>> But it removes the involuntary part of the incel like word. It has to be renamed then because it's not involuntary. Well, it is. Well, hold on. Um,

Brian Atlas>> yeah. I mean, baked into the the idea of the term involuntary, uh, I think there's a there's a understanding that we're not talking

Brian Atlasabout uh, prostitution because under that framework, of course, any man could get laid. We're talking about they can't

Brian Atlasfind a girl who will voluntarily have sex with them. These do let me ask it this way. Would these women who are

Brian Atlasprostitutes voluntarily have sex with them absent payment of money? >> No. Like for example, I'm confident I

Brian Atlascould even present an offer to a woman who's not even a prostitute, who wouldn't otherwise have sex with me, but if I offered her a billion dollars, there are women who aren't prostitutes

Brian Atlaswho would definitely prostitute themselves for a billion dollars. So under this dynamic, yes, if the the fi well, in this case, prostitutes

Brian Atlasprostitute themselves for far less than that. Uh yes with if you introduce like this other incentive structure but the

Brian Atlasin uh the incentive structure would be uh they have they have their own desire uh to have sex with you absent financial

Alisa Tresenovcompensation. I guess this goes in favor with how you think of this question woman not being able not being involuntarily celibate is that whenever

Alisa TresenovI would read about um a man being in incel I my thoughts is like but isn't there someone for everybody but then

Alisa Tresenovagain maybe my thoughts my question of that is because I'm I'm a woman who like but I've always wondered about that I'm like isn't there someone for everybody But I always wanted that.

Alisa Tresenov>> Uh >> I guess the opinion differs. >> Yeah. No, that happens. >> Yeah. >> I >> Now regarding celibacy, >> no, I don't really believe in that. There's always I think that's a woman thing.

Alisa Tresenov>> That's what I'm saying. Like it's in favor of what you're saying that women can't be involuntarily celibate. My opinion is that there can be that you can find someone who's interested in you.

Brian Atlas>> Uh >> do you get that? Yeah, I think it's >> I Yeah, I I guess that's possible. >> But what Okay,

Alisa Tresenov>> I'm just saying I'm I'm understanding your question a little bit better now as perspective of female perspective. >> Well, you No, you were saying that there's somebody for everybody

Alisa Tresenov>> in regards of interest, not necessarily like a forever partner. It's like the question. I never understood the incel part as like >> um

Alisa Tresenov>> so the involuntary is not something that I understand. >> What do you mean it's not something you understand? >> Involuntary celibacy. I didn't really get that question because I guess I just never

Tabitha Chang>> I think it's like so just hypothetically if you go to a club with intent to find somebody to hook up with that night and you don't that's involuntary. >> I think there

Tabitha Chang>> you know like you tried and it didn't work and if it continues to happen then it's just not you know that's involuntary because you are attempting but it's not happening. >> I think there would have to yes there would have to be a bit of a pattern. Yeah. Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Like if a guy goes out to a club once and he doesn't get laid, I don't think he's involuntarily celibate. If he tried for like extended period of time and he's been like he's a virgin and he's

Brian Atlaswhatever, uh then we can start making a determination as to their uh them being involuntarily celibate. But uh yeah, I mean the I think the easiest test would

Brian Atlassimply be I mean you could be super blunt about it. You could basically just have you go out you go into the street. I think a woman who had like a sign around her neck, like she doesn't have have to speak, just like a sign, a

Brian Atlascardboard sign holding it. This would be super pathetic for a man or a woman to do. Uh, hi, I'm making myself available for sex. I think if the I think almost any woman did that, it

Brian Atlasmight be really awkward and uncomfortable, but she would get guys to come up to her. Obviously, the the modern way to do this is just on a dating app, basically. You don't have to do do this really embarrassing public

Brian Atlashumiliation ritual basically. But uh a woman but even in public a woman did that there would definitely be guys

Brian Atlaslook at oh like guys would actually do that. But if a guy had like a sign like no girls are girls are not going to

Brian Atlasgo unless he's like [ __ ] some male model super hot dude maybe. But like you you have an averagel looking girl do that versus an average looking guy do

Brian Atlasthat. It's going to be very different. Um let's pull it back up. Mary. All right. Here's more uh of my positions. I think men put in more

Brian Atlaseffort when it comes to dating. Dating is harder for men. Uh a woman's career money. Somebody say something if you see something you or hear something you disagree with.

Brian Atlas>> I don't think body count matters. don't think body count matters. Uh maybe we'll come to that a little bit later. Why don't we do uh uh um

Brian AtlasI disagree with seven. >> Women should be drafted. >> Yeah, women should be drafted. Scroll down, Mary. >> I would die. >> Women uh yes, I think women should be drafted. Uh I don't like feminism. Uh I

Brian Atlasthink women have equal rights to men. Arguably more rights. I think women are more privileged in totality. Women are not oppressed in the USA. Men are more oppressed than women. People of color can be racist towards white people.

Courtney King / Jamie / AvaWomen can be sexist towards men. Men are physically stronger than women. Nothing. Men are the primary victim. >> The women should be drafted thing. I think >> All right. Well, I think that if you put me in the war, you

Courtney King / Jamie / Avadon't want me fighting for your team. I'm going to run around and like, "Hey, girl." Like, I'm not going to like shoot people. >> Yeah. I agree that men are better soldiers than women. I still think women should be drafted.

Alisa Tresenov>> When you say drafted, do you mean specifically like to go out on to battle or like there are different categories that you can >> be enlisted into, you know, like intelligence and things like that? >> Yeah. Yeah, that's a fair question. I

Brian Atlasthink bare minimum uh you know, obviously in the military there's not, you know, frontline well there's more than just frontline combat roles. There's support roles, there's cooks, there's people who do vehicle repair,

Brian Atlasthere's people who are pencil pushers, who handle paperwork, who, you know, all kinds of different things. Basically, almost any job you see in the civilian world, you'll see in basically the

Brian Atlasmilitary world to to some degree. Uh so bare minimum yes they should be they can be drafted and they have to go to boot camp and all that but uh in terms of

Brian Atlastheir actual uh role in the military they can have a support role. However, I would go beyond that and I'm fine with them being in combat. I think they're worse in combat but I'm

Brian Atlasokay with it. >> So you want weaker people to be defending the country >> for the sake of equality? Um, well, obviously, look, >> men and women aren't equal. [laughter] >> We're not equal.

Brian Atlas>> Well, I'm look, I'm saying this. I think I I do think men are better soldiers. >> Men are better soldiers. Men are physically stronger. Uh, however, you know, look, the the United States

Brian Atlasmilitary is also very advanced. I think we probably could have had women do the Venezuela thing. Like, we probably could have let them do it, you know, like with our tech and [ __ ] they probably could have been okay.

Annie (HR)>> Hold on. not they wouldn't have done as good of a job, you know, but they could have done it. >> Uh, I want to mention that at the point where they got Maduro, he was at his safe door or whatever was big and metallic and they had to pry it open

Brian Atlaswhile he was trying to close it. Do you think women could pry that metal door from Maduro? >> Well, I don't know the specifics of it, but um I'm assuming they use tools, whether the women are strong enough to even use the tools or not. >> Exactly.

Brian AtlasWell, look, maybe the woman could have uh maybe the you send in two men to do the prying of the door, but the the women could have probably done the Venezuela Maduro thing. >> What I find interesting is there are

Katiewomen that do volunteer to do these things. And I actually disagree with you. I don't think women are all that weak. I think that we put ourselves in a box of being weak, but women are not weak. Women are weak.

Annie (HR)>> If they were put in the same standards of testing, fine. But also on a moral level, I don't think women should be put into battle. >> Women have to try way harder to be as strong as men.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Physically, every aspect women are weaker than men and it's just a fact. >> But that's because we're >> mentally. I think that's >> I don't think mentally. >> I don't think mentally, but physically totally agree. But mentally, >> physically, yeah, biologically

Annie (HR)>> mentally 100%. We are very emotional creatures compared to men, which is why we shouldn't be >> not good with decision making because of their emotions. And we need men who are much more logical, straight thinkers to

Annie (HR)be in our wars and our battles. Even for paperwork, they're more meticulous with that in all the ways that, you know, war. I think it just depends on your mindset. If you have a weak mindset,

Courtney King / Jamie / Avathat's what it is. If you're a weak-minded woman, that's how it is. If you're a strong minded woman, you're a strong-minded woman. So >> I well I think look I'll say this in

Brian Atlasterms so their physical strength I think it's completely unassalable. Men are physically stronger than than women. This is undeniable. Um

Brian Atlasthe mental strength or weakness I'm not prepared to bite the bullet on that just because I think it's a much harder position to defend. So I won't bite the bullet on that. I think people can make

Katietheir arguments on that. But in terms of physical strength, uh you would acknowledge that men are physically stronger than women. >> Biologically, yes. But that does not necessarily directly correlate to the fact that women are weak to what you

Katiewere saying is women are weak. And I think you said the same thing which I point which to me personally says a lot about your own personal oppression and background of whatever your parents taught you or your religion. And I say

Katiethat having been and grew up a Christian woman and having been in an evangelical church is it's very oppressive to speaking to women are weaker when women shouldn't be in power or in leadership

Katiebecause we're emotional or because whatever when actually not all of us are emotional and every single one of us in this room can we have the full ability and capability to control our own

Courtney King / Jamie / Avaemotions if you actually try. Every single woman in politics has made a fool of themselves publicly on platforms, everything. And it's like >> they have literally just proved

Courtney King / Jamie / Avathemselves to not be fit for those leadership roles. Women do not belong in politics. They don't belong in leadership roles. They should not be leaving this country whatsoever. >> I mean, hasn't every man also

Courtney King / Jamie / Avaembarrassed themselves at one point in political roles as well? Yeah, but they still handle it better logically because women automatically turn I mean the best the best like example I can come up with

Courtney King / Jamie / Avais Marjorie Green who blew up. She's Republican. She blew up on X over men saying that oh you should get in the kitchen and make your own damn dinner and then clean up after yourself. That's a fully >> honestly

Levi>> great example of her losing her crap when men don't do that. What about uh Caroline Levit or Kaylee McKenna who have been like extremely vocal and just I mean badasses to be quite frank. I

Courtney King / Jamie / Avathink that they >> I love Caroline what they think and she's a leader. >> She's not a leader. She's a representative. She's representing she speaks for the men. The men tell them what to say. So there's a difference when men are telling you what

Ladato say when and then thinking for yourself when you're literally a representative of Georgia >> like of an entire state. Honestly, hold on, guys. So, I can agree on one thing.

LadaSo, if women can be drafted, then it should be okay then for a man to watch over the kids, feed the kids, uh like do that because if a woman does get drafted, like who who's going to be doing the other side?

Lada>> I don't think women should be drafted. I don't think women should reong in the military >> because that's like another side because there is another job to do and that's like washing for instance >> there's a family >> women should be taking care of their

Courtney King / Jamie / Avafamily not going to the military if you have a family you should be with your kids >> and providing dinner teaching them and not handing them over to government systems to be taken care of >> the reason like women getting drafted

Ladahas been brought up is because of this dating culture and the fact that family is not a priority for women anymore. >> Yeah. So if a woman does get drafted then like okay then a man has to watch

Courtney King / Jamie / Avathe family has >> you both have kids. If a woman and a man have kids in the relationship only one should get drafted and that should be the man. >> So what would happen with like your

Tabitha Changscenario just to use you as an example. What would happen with your scenario? You guys aren't married. >> No. >> It doesn't matter that you're not married. They could draft you both. They don't care.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Yeah. Like there's that. >> Well, she would be consider she they're not married. She would be considered a single mother and therefore single mothers should not be able to be drafted because she would need to be taking care

Courtney King / Jamie / Avaof her kids. >> It's impossible. You wouldn't be drafted. >> Yeah, that's what I would think. I would I wouldn't think they would take like a mom away from her kids if she's the only one watching and providing for the kids

Courtney King / Jamie / Avalike on paper at least. >> Okay. Yeah. >> I don't think women should be drafted though. >> Agreed. >> Especially not me. >> Yeah. That's like the most [ __ ] statement. >> I think woman I think women >> You missed it, Brian. So, if a woman is

Courtney King / Jamie / Avadrafted, should the guy stay home and take care of? >> Hold on. Let her finish. >> I think that it should be like an organ donor. If you want to be able to be drafted, you once you're like 18, you

Courtney King / Jamie / Avacan let the US know, whoever know like yeah, like I give permission to be drafted if it ever gets down to that point >> as just a woman or both men and women. >> As just a woman, >> but men don't have a choice.

Brian Atlas>> Uh what was the thing that I missed or whatever? >> I guess if women are drafted, then who's going to take care of the kids? Is it going to be the men? >> Yeah. The uh the birth rate is at an all-time low. Most women are waiting

Brian Atlasuntil like their really late 20s or 30s to have kids. We're below replacement level. So if you're saying that women are having some duty to take care of the kids where where they're not women are

Brian Atlasnot holding up their end of the deal in society, okay, women are the ones who are going to be responsible for regenerating the population if some of the men die in war. uh women aren't getting married, they're not getting

Brian Atlaspregnant, they're not having kids, or they're delaying it until their [ __ ] 30s. So, this idea that well, the equal trade-off here is well, when the men go to war and die and protect the nation,

Brian Atlasthe women are going to do their their duty and have kids. Women by and large are not holding up their end of the deal. Furthermore, women have accepted

Brian Atlasuh equality. And I would point out that men have a government sanctioned a government forced uh duty to the country. Women

Brian Atlasdon't have an actual duty to have kids. >> I think women do have a duty to have kids. >> They don't. >> I do. It's our purpose. Our purpose is to bear children, have families.

Brian Atlas>> Purpose is different. So, for example, uh the United States government or let's actually We have some two Russian women here. I sort of well one. So, uh, in the Ukraine Russia conflict. I'm sure she's

Brian Atlasgoing to love this. Um, so in Ukraine, uh, they had a shortage. I Well, I I don't know if shortage is the right word, but they would abduct men in the

Brian Atlasstreets. Uh, the military police would abduct men, and who knows where they ended up a few weeks or months later, probably on the front line, dead, uh,

Brian Atlas[ __ ] getting droned or whatever. So, can you tell me a a country where the government or the military is abducting 18 to

Lada30 year old women and like forcing them to get pregnant? Has that ever happened? >> Honestly, for some reason that rings a bell, but I don't know what country like

Brian Atlassome country was like below population. When I'm speaking of duty, uh, is it the case that if a woman so chooses, she can go through her whole life and never have kids? >> Yes.

Katie>> She doesn't have a duty. Then >> there's a moral and biological duty. >> I don't think it's you're morally obligated. >> You have to put a baby. >> Didn't you grow up? >> Yeah, that's separate.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> No, I didn't say I grew up. I said I grew up Christian. And I went to an ev evangelistic church on my own. >> Grew up Christian. I did. >> In the Bible, it states that women were created for the sake of man and men not for the sake of women and that women's

Courtney King / Jamie / Avapurpose is to bear children. >> Are there women who are atheists? >> I mean, yeah, of course. But my point is she grew up Christian. America will prioritize. >> Are you Are you Christian?

Katie>> Um, I would consider myself Christian, but more spiritually based. But I don't want to have kids. I don't want to get pregnant. I don't want to put my body through that. And I think I'm allowed to

Katiebe Christian and also not get pregnant if I don't want to because it is my choice if I want to get pregnant or not. >> Thousands of years of ancestry and just going to cut it off with you. >> I'm the youngest of eight children.

KatieThey'll be okay. [laughter] >> You're like, they'll be fine. >> There's plenty of babies. I'm an aunt of eight. There's plenty of children. I don't know the uh I'm I don't really

Brian Atlasknow the I'm not uh I have pro-Christian sentiment, but I'm I'm not a Christian. >> Um is there I I a Christian

Courtney King / Jamie / Avaobligation to have children. I don't know. Is there >> I believe that there is >> there might be >> because God calls for us to make disciples and making >> fruitful and multiply or something. is that

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> be fruitful and multiply. But what if they can't have children? >> Well, that would be different, right? >> There have been Yeah, there have been stories in the Bible where women can't have children and they're called for different things. But I think if you're able to have children and you're

Courtney King / Jamie / Avachoosing not to, that's selfish for the women that can't have children but want to. >> Didn't you also believe though that it was also like a Christian thing to not say how many like your body count and

Courtney King / Jamie / Avalike your how many people you've slept with and all that stuff and >> all that. But under the guise of a marriage, it's different because marriage is sacred. >> Marriage is sacred and children are

Ladasacred and should be protected. So, >> I just think everyone should have a choice. Like going like being drafted should be a choice for men and having kids should be a choice for like everything should be a choice. >> Um

Brian Atlaswhat [ __ ] is it about if you're Christian? Is it a uh is it a sin to be a Christian and choose not to have kids?

Brian Atlas>> No. >> Like is it a sin? I don't follow. >> It's not in the commandments, but you are ignoring his >> will. >> Is it a sin, chat? Is it a sin? >> Like of course we have to acknowledge

Brian Atlassome women can't be pregnant, can't get pregnant. But assuming that the woman doesn't have fertility issues, is it a sin to choose actively to not,

Brian Atlasyou know, make a determination that you never have kids? Is it a sin? If you're a Christian, I don't know. I'm asking. People are in the chat are saying, "No,

Brian Atlasit's not a sin." Is it then some some Wait, yes. God said, "Be fruitful and

Courtney King / Jamie / Avamultiply." It's not a sin, but is it not acting in accordance with Christianity? >> It's like you're not you're not being sinful, but you're also not obeying

KatieGod's path for you, which is then you are still straying from. >> What if having children is not my path? >> What if, for instance, fostering children is my path to protect the

Katiechildren that are in bad foster situations? >> What if adoption, right? But what if I don't want to because of my own medical situations that would make it very

Annie (HR)difficult? Or what if I simply don't want to put my body through that? What if >> I'm hearing a lot of I I my body me what I want? That is that sounds incredibly selfish.

Levi>> Wait, is it Wait, really quick. Is it selfish then in your case? Would it be selfish asking you to if say she has a medical history of a lot of cancer or um

Levischizophrenia or basically things that are just not good to pass on to a child? Is it selfish to to not have kids if you carry those like genetic um predispositions?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Because you never you're not going to know unless you have children >> if those things get passed. >> Let's uh let's go back to the draft [laughter] though. What was something about the draft? But >> something about the draft,

Annie (HR)>> taking tests. I don't know. >> What? What was the draft? Somebody was saying, "I think women should get drafted." >> That's ridiculous. >> Maybe women should get drafted because then more women would get pregnant trying to not go into

Lada>> All right. Essentially what I said. Yeah, I think you were like away. Um, so I I can agree that if women can be drafted, then women like then men should

Ladawash the family. So like if yes, then yes. So like if a woman goes away to war, like who's going to watch the family? Then it has to be the guy. He has to know how to feed the [snorts] family, uh put them to sleep,

Tabitha Changeverything, all of that. He has to essentially uh perform the duties of her while she's gone. >> But women are just so much better at it

Brian Atlasthan men are. Yeah, but this assumes >> hold on. But this assumes that >> there is an existing family and children >> most likely. I mean in

Brian Atlas>> women are getting married at like in their late 20s and not have putting off having children into their late 20s and 30s. Most conscripted uh most uh

Ladaconscripted soldiers it's like 18 to I don't know 22 23 24. Well, okay. If a woman gets drafted at 18 or 20 and she I

Ladadon't know where she ends up, she never gets the opportunity to have a kid or make birth. >> So, just like men here, do you think women should be allowed to vote? >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Then they should be drafted. End of discussion. I I don't >> drafting u and being voted. That's different things. >> Yeah, they they are different things. But in order for a man to be able to

Brian Atlasvote, he to he has to be subject to military conscription to be able to vote in the United States. So if you want equality, I mean, you should probably just take it across the

Brian Atlasboard. >> Brian, do you think women should vote? >> Uh, well, [sighs] it's an interesting question. Uh, so >> I'll answer it like this. I'm I think we should kind of do away with universal

Brian Atlassuffrage. So that means we would take back voting from both men and women uh to a degree. I think there there are criteria which would allow you to be able to vote. One of those could be

Brian Atlasthrough military service and we would allow both men and women to volunteer for this. You could also have a civil service. Uh so I wouldn't gender it. I would just say uh I don't think a lot I

Brian AtlasI think a lot of people shouldn't be voting both men and women. Uh so you can also maybe get the right to vote through having uh some sort of stake in the country. Maybe after you

Brian Atlashave two or three children, maybe if you are a land owner, a homeowner, maybe you can get a stake then. But just anybody having the right to vote, I think is

Brian Atlaskind of a mistake. I think it's a massive mistake. And uh it's led to a lot of stupid [ __ ] And so I' so to be

Brian Atlasclear, I'm I'd be in favor of taking away the right to vote from both men and women. I'm I don't think universal suffrage was a good idea. Uh

Brian Atlasnow, uh there was two parts to this. I But it's kind of evading me what my second part was. Um [sighs]

Brian Atlas>> an intelligence test. You could because you have a lot of like low IQ, low u like low

Brian Atlaslow intelligence voters. Um you could do that, but I don't know if that'd be my first go-to. Uh yeah. >> I have a personal question for you. Uh you said you've been married for four

Alisa Tresenovyears now. >> Yep. >> You're 31. >> Yep. >> You want kids. >> Mhm. What what what's with the >> We have an apartment right now. We need a bigger place. >> Okay, >> that's really it. >> I understand.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Um so in terms of like women voting though, um I do think I I think it's just realistically speaking, uh you're not

Brian Atlasgoing to be able to like that's an I think that's an untenable position. people who want to take away women's right to vote. Um, you know, I've heard arguments for it, but I think it's

Brian Atlaspolitically untenable. I do think though that women currently, as it currently stands, have a privilege over men when it comes to voting because in order for men to have the right to vote, they have

Brian Atlasto be subject to forced military conscription. Women have no such obligation or duty. I think at the very least, for the time being, we need to equalize that. women should have some

Brian Atlassort of uh civil or military duty uh to the state to uh and that should be changed. But getting rid of women's right to vote, I'd say no. But I am in

Brian Atlasfavor of walking back universal suffrage for both men and women. >> Yeah. >> Do you think an army of women is going to win? >> No, I don't care though. You guys voted

Courtney King / Jamie / Avafor equality, so here are the fruits of the equality that you so desperately demand. >> [snorts] >> I don't think women should vote personally and my argument for that is

Courtney King / Jamie / Avabecause we have the choice to not be drafted and if we're not going to lay down our life for this country then we shouldn't be voting for this country period. I also don't think that women I mean all

Courtney King / Jamie / Avaof I could ask all of you guys this question and ask you if you are involved in politics or if you know anything about the governmental system of the United States. Honestly, I'm trying not to involve

Ladamyself. Like, I stay away from politics. >> Did you vote in the 2025 election? >> No, I don't vote. I'm not planning to vote. I'm not old enough to vote and I'm never probably going to vote. Like, I I don't really >> Fair enough.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Anybody else? >> I am a little bit ignorant on the last couple years of politics because I had really bad alcoholism, stabbed myself, and then went to jail. So, I was kind of out for a little bit.

Annie (HR)>> Wow. >> Did you vote on season? I wasn't around. >> Did anybody here vote? >> I voted. >> I wasn't around. >> And I'm pretty political in my mindset and my knowledge about it. I think >> so. I

Annie (HR)>> Do you think women should vote? >> I think everyone should go through an intelligence test, men and women, and then maybe you can have the right to vote. >> I agree with Brian's take on it. I don't

Leviknow exactly what would be the prerequisites for, you know, because >> closer to the mic. >> Sorry. Um, I don't know what exactly the prerequisites would be, but I definitely

Levidon't think every single person in this country has the intelligence um to understand fully what they are voting for. I also don't think dual citizens

Annie (HR)should be able to vote because I you got to be locked in in America, I think, to be able to have a say in American politics. And if you're split, it's just

Ladanot it's just not it. I would say whoever wants to vote can vote. I'm just not going to do it.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> I think you should be living in America for at least 10 years after the age of 18 to be able to vote in my opinion. Um, but involved and

Katie>> probably the only thing I'll agree with you on this evening, but yes, I agree. I think that you should actually know what you're talking about before you vote, which is personally I don't stay up to

Katiedate on a lot of politics cuz it is very stressful. Um, and so therefore I don't vote because I'm not going to make a decision on something or speak on something that I'm not fully informed of. >> The p you're

Brian Atlas>> I also wasn't in the country. So >> wait, you're held 26. >> Yeah. >> So you voted you could have voted for the past two elections. Mhm. >> You didn't vote for either though?

Brian Atlas>> No. >> Okay. Yeah. I mean, in terms of uh the woman's [clears throat] vote though, it it is the case that uh if only women

Brian Atlasvoted, for example, and men didn't, you'd basically have uh Democrat rule for the next hundred years. And if only men voted, you would only have

Brian AtlasRepublican rule or conservative rule for the next hundred years. Uh I do think it is the case that when women are voting, they typically vote for uh they they

Brian Atlasvote for what feels good, not what is necessarily best for the country. Women are the pushers of political correct correctness. They're the pushers of what

Brian Atlasfeels good, what seems good, what seems like the nice, warm, cuddly thing to do. Basically let in a bunch of immigrants. Oh, it's the nice thing. They're coming

Brian Atlashere for a better life. Oh my god. Women overwhelmingly vote for this. They support this. And so you could point to the infranchisement of women for uh

Courtney King / Jamie / Avahonestly a lot of the issues in the country currently. Um >> I think women voting is literally the burden of our economic infrastructure in all of America. I think we're

Courtney King / Jamie / Avaresponsible for it because otherwise we wouldn't be overrun by immigrants and our taxes wouldn't be the way that they are. America wouldn't be the way that it is. It would probably be better.

Levi>> Does anybody have any thoughts there? >> Did you vote? I just I'm just wondering. Did you >> I'm not going to comment on that. >> I think if you didn't vote, you honestly can't talk about politics in any way, shape, or form because you had the

Leviopportunity to make a difference in this country and you chose not to. But [laughter] >> I can't make a difference from Moscow, Idaho. >> Every single person in America thinks that their vote doesn't matter. And that's exactly why we had the least

Tabitha Changamount of votes this past election than we've had in a really really long time. >> Do you think it's because people didn't Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. Do you think it's because of that or do you think it's because the candidates this

Levitime just were not >> I mean I think it's both for sure, but I think that every single person thinks that they can't make a difference and that's why they don't go out and vote. But it's your it's your constitutional

Leviright to choose. >> And when you choose not to, how can you have an opinion on anything? You had you had the choice. You had the opportunity to make a difference and you chose not to. And your mindset is exactly what's wrong with this country and it's exactly

Leviwhat's wrong with the youth. It's exactly why nobody's voting. And it's exactly why people keep coming into power and everybody talks about it and everybody's pissed off about it. But you didn't do anything when you had the

Courtney King / Jamie / Avachance to do it. So how can you speak on something when you chose not to? >> I think I did never said that women don't have free will to talk about politics. I think women can absolutely talk about politics, but I don't think

Courtney King / Jamie / Avathey should be involved in them, >> but talking about them is kind of being involved. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> No, it's not because if you're physically involved in politics by voting, that's completely different.

Courtney King / Jamie / AvaRather than sitting around a table talking about politics with a bunch of girls because we're not doing anything for the country right now, are we? We're

Courtney King / Jamie / Avanot protesting. We're not pleading. We're not trying to run a bill. Like, we're not doing anything. We're just talking. >> You know, I was thinking about

Brian Atlassomething. I saw a tweet and I I reposted it uh a day or two ago. I think if we were importing millions upon millions of ABGs, Asian baby girls, Boba girls or

Brian Atlaswhatever, like if we were importing like 18 to 29year-old like uh Southeast Asian women, Japanese,

Brian AtlasKorean, Chinese, Vietnamese women into this country instead of like Indian men, Latin American men. Uh,

Brian Atlas[laughter] I'm pretty sure women would immediately put on [ __ ] SS uniforms and immediately want to put a stop to um,

Brian Atlasshout out to Hasmin for this one. Uh, the women would put on an SS uniform and immediately want a a complete halting of

Brian Atlasimmigration into this country. If we were importing 18 to 29 year old women. >> Wait, why? >> Because there it would be sexual competition.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, >> if if we're importing like women who are just like way better looking and like way more feminine than the like stock of women that we have in the United States, yeah, women would be like furious and up

Brian Atlasin arms because you'd start losing your like leverage in the dating marketplace. But because it's like, you know, you're we're importing that and whatever. You know, you guys are fine with it. Whatever.

Brian Atlas>> No, I feel like I'm always competing with Latinos, not the Asians. >> Well, it could be Latinas, too. It could be Latinos, too, I guess. But, um, yeah, >> nothing is stopping any woman from being

Brian Atlashigh quality, no matter the race. >> Uh, sure. Yeah. I just think like if the demographics of who the

Brian Atlasuh either legal or illegal immigrants shifted and like these women would be way more desirable than American women. [laughter] I mean we have a whole

Brian Atlasmovement passport bros who leave who travel spend a bunch of money to go to a different country because the the quality of the women in these other countries is just better than the quality of American women. So, it's

Brian Atlaslike, yeah, the women would be completely up in arms. The white women would be the most anti-immigrant demographic that [ __ ] ever existed.

Brian AtlasUh, if we were just importing a [snorts] bunch of uh like hot 18 to 20 29y old Latin American women, Eastern European

Brian Atlaswomen, even Western European women, uh, Asian women. Y'all would y'all would not like that. Yeah. [laughter]

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> No, no, nothing. Nothing for that. >> I I don't know. It depends on the scale. >> If they're stealing my man, >> they're they're taking the men, >> man. Immigration. Get them [ __ ] out.

Brian Atlas>> Those of you who are single, [laughter] uh, do you guys feel like there's an abundance of like highquality men currently? >> Not in the US. Well, if there's an abundance if there's

Brian Atlasan abundance of high quality men, why aren't you dating them? >> I think there's a at least Well, I think from the the uh women's lens and perspective, I think women think that

Katiethere's a scarcity of highquality men. >> I don't think so. I think that there's I think it's all perspective just like everything else in life. and perspective.

Katie>> Me personally, I want someone that I feel that connection with. I want someone that I get along with. I want someone that I share morals with.

Katie>> Um that we have the same drive and ambition and wants in life. You know, I think that >> sure >> there's plenty of men that that have money. There's plenty of men that are

Katiegood. I don't believe that all men are bad. I don't believe that most men are bad. And that's a lot coming from me if you know my background and my story. Um I think that there are a lot of good

Katiehigh quality men out there that maybe just haven't really applied themselves the way that they could and they need someone that will support them or push them or

Katiewhatever. Um but I I mean there's plenty of men with money that are kind, that are generous, that are whatever. I don't think all men >> What do you offer that makes a man want to push himself though?

Katie>> Um, that's a great question. I mean, I think it just depends. Um, for me, in my past relationships, what I've been told that I offered that made a man want to do

Katiemore um for himself is inspiration and support. Um, you know, and being there 100% for him and supporting him through whatever he wants to do and whatever he

Katiewants in life. I think that is being a true partner. Um, and I may not want kids and that I will say that is for medical reasons. Um, >> what do you mean medical reasons?

Katie>> So, I'm I'm Rh negative and I've already had I had a miscarriage with my ex-husband and Rh negative means that my [clears throat] >> previously married, didn't know that. >> Um, what's Rh negative? >> Rh negative is um, so you're either

Katieeveryone's either Rh negative or Rh positive. If you're Rh- negative and you have a miscarriage, then you're more likely to have more miscarriages. Whenever you're Rh- negative and you have a baby that's Rh- positive or your

Katiepartner's Rh- positive, your body creates antibodies to kill fetus. >> Okay? >> And because of that, plus other things, um, like I have a seizure disorder. I have an extreme [clears throat] phobia

Katieof needles. I only have a seizure when I'm around needles. And you cannot have a seizure while you're trying to give birth. every time that I'm, you know, [clears throat] if I'm >> giving blood or whatever, you have to

Katiegive blood all the time. Whenever I had my miscarriage, I had to go give blood all the time. I had a seizure every single time. >> That impairs >> blood or >> because you have to get your um hCG levels or HGC or whatever levels checked

Katiewhenever >> you got the triggering event for your seizures was giving blood. >> Yes. Since I was little. So, I pass out and I have a grandma seizure. Um, this has happened since I was 7 years old.

Brian AtlasAnd I've also had seizures outside of that, but that's the primary thing that I deal with. Well, look, I think for medical reasons, not wanting to have children is uh is valid, but um so,

Katieum >> my my point that I was circling back to is that even though that's not possible for me, something that I have discussed with my past partners is adoption, is fostering, because I'm someone that has

Katiethe heart to do that. which is why I brought that point to you two ladies that just because I don't feel comfortable getting physically pregnant because it could actually kill me

Katiedoes not mean that my, you know, God's path for me is not meaningful. Doesn't mean that I'm not all meant to do something right or be

Katiethat type of person or whatever. And I think for you ladies to sit here and say that women's duty is to get pregnant and have children is putting a box around

Katiewomen that have special circumstances. And you may not even be realizing it. But even if it was simply my choice that I just don't want to, but I have a heart for something else that a lot of people

Ladadon't have a heart for, I think that that's something special. I do think that's a kind of like a personal condition because I don't know how often that happens that someone's like HR negative.

Brian Atlas>> What does this have to do with the AVGs though? >> That's Oh my god. [laughter] >> What does that have to do with the AV? >> I don't think anyone was really interested in the AG. I think you guys just don't want to

Brian Atlasacknowledge the fact that y'all women would be like the most anti-immigration people ever if the demographic of illegal and legal immigrants weren't

Brian Atlasmen. But they were like 18 to 29 year old women and no no the conversation was so I I think my position is um we were talking about uh is there an abundance

Brian Atlasof highquality men out there? Now I think most men are good men. Uh it I guess it depends what we're talking about when we say highquality but I do think a lot of women I don't know if

Brian Atlasit's most women a lot of women do feel where are all the good men? Where did all the good men go? Um, maybe this is just from their framing, their lens of they're not acknowledging the all these

Brian Atlasgood men that do actually exist because maybe they're chasing after a really top tier uh level of men. But I do think it's a common gripe I hear from women of

Brian Atlaswhere are all the good men? Um there's a lacking of you know uh there's a lacking of high quality men. And so my position

Brian Atlasis as it relates to the if we were to import like tens of millions of Latin American, Eastern European and

Brian AtlasAsian women uh of uh childbearing age like you know 18 to 30 or whatever. I think a lot of women have an issue with it because I think a lot of women

Brian Atlasacknowledge that there's a shortage let's say of possible partners of possible uh high caliber highquality men and this would massively increase uh it

Brian Atlaswould create a lot of competition and I think most men American men would probably appraise uh women from Latin America, women from Eastern Europe, women from Asia as higher quality

Brian Atlaspartners. ers perhaps both maybe not even necessarily even looks but in terms of their values in terms of their personality in terms of their femininity. Uh I would argue western

Brian Atlaswomen, American women are the most masculine uh most masculine women to have ever existed in human history. Uh you can think feminism, you can think equality,

Brian Atlasyou can think boss babe culture, you can think degenerate rap music, all this [ __ ] By the way, red flag if a woman likes rap music. Sure. Raise your hands if you like rap music. You [ __ ] Yep. the DJ Den Den Den

Brian Atlas>> just any DJ >> uh I mean I'll give you some [laughter] leeway if it's like you know you listen to some uh you know good like '9s early 2000s rap but if you're listening to this [ __ ] dog [ __ ] mumble I don't

Brian Atlaseven understand what the [ __ ] they're saying rap and they're talking about I mean to be fair rap in the '9s they were also talking about fight [ __ ] killing cops and I'm going to [laughter] [ __ ] a [ __ ] and uh I got all this money and uh

Brian AtlasI'm a thug and I'm going to [ __ ] pop a cap in your ass. [ __ ] [ __ ] degenerate music. >> Yeah, I think that's like really low class. Um >> disagree. You disagree. I think it's I

Alisa Tresenovthink a woman I think it's a red flag if a woman listens to rap music. >> I just noticed that um in Europe, men seem to be more in tune with their

Alisa Tresenovfeelings and willing to be more open. So the quality of men in [snorts] the US, it's just like the idea of always having an option, not being ready, not knowing what they want. And it's like you're sitting in front of them.

Alisa Tresenov>> Yeah. >> Telling you, hey, like what what we've been seeing each other for months now. What is it that you want? Oh, I'm just not ready. Like I >> Yeah, he's just not into you. >> Well, yeah, but it's like what? 40 years

Alisa Tresenovold. You still don't know what you want? I think >> he's just not that into you or he's just not serious. >> I think American men just don't know what they want and they want an easy choice. >> You could say that about European men also. >> No, I think they pretty they know what

Brian Atlasthey want. >> Well, I think due to >> No, they don't. Wait, wait, there's massive like if you look at for example Sweden or the Scandinavian countries like promiscuity is rampant in these countries.

Alisa Tresenov>> Sure. But I'm just saying what I've noticed in American men is they want an easy choice. They don't want you to have an opinion or thoughts. I'm not saying

Alisa Tresenovlike they just want you can get your tens of millions of ABGs whoever you want and the men will come and take them because great we have all these options.

Alisa TresenovHow would you feel if we had a bunch of like beautiful like men who check off everything that that we want come to the US? Do you will you suddenly be against immigration? Well, I will say I am

Brian Atlasagainst immigration. >> Well, so my position I suppose my position wouldn't wouldn't really change, >> but I don't know if this is going to either come across as racist or gay.

Brian Atlas>> Maybe. >> [ __ ] it, whatever. Look, I'll be honest. So, no, I don't think it would necessarily come across as racist. I'll say this. Of the immigrants that do come

Brian Atlashere, uh, many of them, by the way, I look, I want to say something. Uh, I'm not in favor of illegal immigration from South America, Latin America. I like Mexicans. Mexicans are [ __ ] cool.

Brian AtlasHowever, I don't think we should allow them to illegally immigrate here. I will say this though, if we were like had a bunch of immigrants uh from European

Brian Atlascountries, culturally, they're much more aligned with the uh with American culture. there would be easier assimilation especially if they're

Brian Atlascoming from uh nations that speak English. Uh so yes, I I do actually if you're asking me would I be more in

Brian Atlasfavor I guess technically I would be more in favor of immigrants from Western European countries because culturally it's either easier for them to

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