Brian Made Her PUKE?! Reformed HØE?! Woke Girl Came To DESTROY Brian In A DEBATE?! | Dating Talk 277

Date: 2026-01-12

Duration: 10h 20m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CCourtney King >

JJamie Ericson >

AAlisa Tresenov >

TTabitha Chang >

KKatie (Model)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_03Courtney King / Jamie / Ava(guest)

SPEAKER_04Alisa Tresenov(guest)

SPEAKER_06Lada(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Katie(guest)

SPEAKER_12Tabitha Chang(guest)

SPEAKER_13Annie (HR)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Levi(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 9 guests introduce themselves

Key MomentBrian's 7-point argument for not performing oral sex

ControversyFirst ever vomiting incident on the Whatever Podcast

Key MomentAva: drunk on Jose Cuervo, stabbed herself, beat up 3 people, jail

QuoteLada demands $10M/year minimum husband income

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

9 guests including Levi (male), Lada (18yo Russian rapper).

Jamie Relationship

Met boyfriend at 11, 3 kids, cheating history.

WoW Dating Analogy

Brian's World of Warcraft meta analogy for dating strategy.

Brian's Oral Sex 7 Arguments

Extended 7-point argument for not performing oral sex.

Vomiting Incident

First vomiting incident in show history.

Ava Stabbing/Jail

Stabbed herself drunk, beat up 3 people, jail.

Body Count Round

Range from 3 to 55+.

Transcript

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Brian Atlash, uh, Lada or LA? >> Lada. >> Lada. Uh, you said men should pay on first dates. Men should be chivalous. Um,

Brian Atlasyou said you would, uh, you want to keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage. >> I would say I'd keep my last name. Probably. Definitely. Yeah.

Brian AtlasOkay. Um, do you is that I don't know if it's different in Russia culturally? Like do women keep their last names? >> No, we don't. I mean, we're not. >> So, you're just like a feminist modern

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> My mom kept her last name, but that was a personal choice. >> I meant to circle that one also. >> Oh, you want to keep your last name? Oh, you're like, >> um, my my man actually does cuz his last

Courtney King / Jamie / Avaname is like affiliated with his family who's in prison and my last name is King and he wants my last name cuz it's cool. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. So, yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Um, all right. Huh. And, uh, I do notice though that for you, you said men should pay on first dates, men should be

Brian Atlaschivalous. Um, what about your kids? Can they have your husband's last name? >> Yeah, I got you. >> Okay, just you you want to keep your last name. All right. I I guess my the

Brian Atlasreason I bring it up is I think it's I think in society what we see happening frequently is you have a lot of women who want the benefits of traditional

Brian Atlaschivalous uh culture or treatment, but you guys don't want to do anything traditional. So men should be traditional, women should be modern. The man should

Brian Atlasprovide, the man should protect, the man should pay for dates, the man should be chivalous, the man should do xyz, but I won't do I don't do anything. I won't take his last name. I won't be

Brian Atlassubmissive. I'll wear the pants. I'll call the shots. Seems like a raw deal for men. >> I think you have a very agreeable group

Alisa Tresenovhere. [laughter] I don't know if you guys are agreeable, but >> I wasn't sure if you were asking the group or if you were asking one person. >> Uh, it could be. Either is fine. >> Okay. >> Either is fine.

Katie>> Mhm. >> I mean, I um I agree. I do think that that's kind of a phenomenon that's going on. I think a lot of us personally probably are a bit more submissive to our partners uh or want to be with a

Katiepartner. Um >> yeah, but I think that there's nuances to that as well. and we all have our own uh maybe we want to be submissive but we also want to hyphenate our name or last

Katiename. So, and I do think that there are a lot of nuances within mixing traditional and modern values. And um I think you just got to find the person that aligns with you for that.

Brian Atlas[clears throat] >> Yeah. I it seems though that uh look I I don't think like when it comes to being traditional, I don't think it has to be an all or nothing thing. I think that tradition can be to some degree a

Brian Atlasspectrum. I don't think you know um you know you're okay well if both the men and the woman woman they're not virgins

Brian Atlasuh and they had premarital sex I think you can still have like a really traditional dynamic even if you're one or both of you aren't like virgins on your wedding night you can still have like a really traditional dynamic that

Brian Atlaswould be perhaps one of the one of the ways in which you have like an ultimate manifestation of a more traditional uh dynamic But I think my big thing that I

Brian Atlassee is it seems like like women are treating it a bit like a buffet and maybe sometimes men are too where it's like okay as the the woman you want all the

Brian Atlasbenefits of modernity, you want the benefits of tradition and you want to kind of reject the perhaps uh downsides

Brian Atlasof modernity and reject the downsides of tradition. So, it's like, okay, if like we're viewing things through a feminist equality lens, if you believe in equality,

Brian Atlaswomen should pay, I mean, it should be 50/50 on dates. But almost almost all of you, except for like one or two, you also said men should pay on first dates. Men should provide, protect, men should be

Brian Atlaschivalous. So, it's like it seems like there is a general idea here that women want to hold on. You want to keep the benefits, reject the downsides. Well,

Alisa Tresenovwith my ex, we would split. Whenever we would go out to eat, we would split. And that was my choice. And I had friends, like female friends, who would scold me for it. They' be like, "The man should

Alisa Tresenovpay all the time." And I'm like, "Well, I know his situation of like both in this industry." And so I'm like, by showing my thoughts were that by us

Alisa Tresenovsplitting the bill, it's showing me that I'm not like expecting him to always pay. when he wants to pay, he'll say, "No, I'm paying for this one." Other times, it was just like us splitting. I

Alisa Tresenovkind of wanted it to be a an equal thing in regards to pay uh for food, but whenever he wanted to do it as himself,

Brian Atlashe would, but I don't expect him to. >> So, look, I mean, I think there's a tendency though. I obviously some women are fine with going 50/50, some women

Brian Atlasare fine splitting the bill. I would argue that a majority of women, so I'd say over 50% of women, want men to pay for first dates. I think as a general rule, I think it is fair to say that women definitely prefer this. Some even

Brian Atlasdemand it. Some would like it's just a deal breakaker if the guy wouldn't. And so I'm not really looking to like, okay, there are, of course, there are examples where women go 50/50 or even there's

Brian Atlasexamples where women will just they'll pay for the date. They'll be sin. They'll they'll pay for the whole thing. I think what I'm trying to get here though is a sort of more of a general understanding, not like, well, you know,

Brian Atlasfor example, there's this this idea of uh well, most men uh men are taller than women. Well, hold on, I know a short guy. I know a tall girl. It's like, well,

Alisa Tresenovsure, of course, but I'm interested in the general principle over like outliers. The general consensus is that the man is it's expected for the man to

Alisa Tresenovpay on the first date. And I I don't I don't demand it, but I I do kind of expect it on the first date. >> Oh, wait. You you expect it >> on the first date.

Alisa Tresenov>> Okay. You expect it on the first date? >> After that, if we're like dating, that's when I no longer assume or expect him to always front the bill. >> Okay. Uh

Katie>> I have a question for you, Brian. Sure. >> What do you associate as the negatives or the downsides of tradition? Cuz you said they don't they want the the positives, but they don't want the

Katienegatives. So, what do you what are you looking at as what women might assume are the negatives of tradition? >> Uh the negatives for for women or the

Brian Atlasnegatives for men? >> Uh I guess both. >> Yeah, sure. I think uh probably the big component would be um women

Brian AtlasI don't think all women view it like this but uh women don't want to show difference in their relationships. Women

Brian Atlaswant equal say. you want 5050 in terms of well we're partners and where were and so from my perspective from a more traditional dynamic for example I'm not

Brian AtlasI'm not a mass I'm not like necessarily a dictator although don't tempt me with a good time if uh I'm o like I want to I'm [snorts]

Brian Atlasopen to your input I'm not going to just be like shut the [ __ ] no that's crazy you can you can talk to me can communicate with me. You can tell me what's going on. But like if there's

Brian Atlassome sort of decision, say there's an impass and I don't know. Um I'm like, "Hey, I want to move to this place because and say I'm taking

Brian Atlascare of all the money, everything. Uh you're not working." And I'm like, "Hey, but you like living in a certain area." And I say, "Look, for the sake of my business, for the sake of uh, you know,

Brian Atlasmoney, maybe [snorts] you've got ties and you got friends here and you like it here and the weather's better, whatever it is." But I'm like, "No, I've made a determination. I think we got to move." Uh, we can have a convo and I can you

Brian Atlascan give me your input, but if at the end of that, I mean, honestly, the best thing would be you're just like, "Yes, I'm on board. I trust you, Brian. I trust you'll make the decision that's best for me, best for us, best for our

Brian Atlaskids, best for our family. If there's an impass, I think in a relationship, I think the man should be the uh tiebreaker, so to speak. So, the woman can have input, the woman

Brian Atlascan, you know, give her perspective, but I think she should, if the man, if there's a disagreement, the man should be the tiebreaker. The man should have final say.

Brian AtlasOkay. >> So I think but women I think want to reserve the right to have a perpetual veto in decisions of the relationship

Brian Atlasand the family. And I think uh in terms of being submissive, you would defer to your boyfriend or to your husband and give him you because you trust him fully.

Brian AtlasAnd maybe it's not the choice you wanted. Now, just to be clear, when it comes to being submissive, that's not >> if your boyfriend says jump off a bridge,

Brian Atlas>> you can say no. You can say no. If your boyfriend wants to prostitute you out and make you do, and well, not make you, but he's like, "Hey, babe. You know what? We should make some money. You should do Only Fins."

Brian Atlas>> You can say no. If if it's if he's asking you to do something that's morally objectionable, women can absolutely say no. A man

Brian Atlasshould only be guiding a woman from a uh a moral uh a moral high ground.

Brian AtlasI don't know what the right terminology here is. It's but um so submission is like yeah if your boyfriend jump off a bridge, start become a prostitute. Of course no you're not going to be submissive and you should break up with

Brian Atlasa guy. >> If your boyfriend wants to prostitute you out so he can make some money on Only Fans. No. And a lot of women actually that's how they get started in Only Fans. Their boyfriend I mean most

Brian Atlaswomen do that [ __ ] just on their own. But uh a lot of these girls like the boyfriend kind of pushes them into it, you know? >> I know a girl like that. Yeah. >> Uh not all the time. Like a lot of times the women just do that [ __ ] you know,

Brian Atlason their own. But uh yeah, I think uh she she ought to defer to my decision-making. she ought to defer to my uh leadership in the relationship.

Katie>> I think that takes finding a man that knows how to lead and also makes good decisions. And I think that that's important, too. >> Yeah, sure. Of course. I mean, you should But I I would hope that the guy

Brian Atlasyou pick is a man that you can trust and that you know does have those positive characteristics. >> Yeah. I mean hopefully, but I mean a lot of women do get stuck in situations that

Brian Atlasare >> less ideal or, you know, they think that he's going to make a good decision and then it ends up there like in the [ __ ] >> you know. So, >> well, I mean, some of the some of the

Brian Atlasnegatives too might also be just more general components of being uh of different of showing difference of being submissive in a relationship. I think uh

Brian AtlasI mean the last name for example I think if you want the guy to marry you that that is more traditional than uh she should change her last name. Uh the kids

Brian Atlasshould have the father's last name. I think that um I think a man should uh the man like it's best if the woman doesn't have

Brian Atlasthese behaviors to begin with. I acknowledge that a lot of societ both men and women have been brainwashed to a degree. They have been culturally and socially conditioned to view things as

Brian Atlasacceptable. So for example, if I'm in a relationship with a girl, [clears throat] uh I think on her own without me having to even lead her, uh she shouldn't be posting thirst traps.

Brian AtlasShe shouldn't be uh she shouldn't be she should be trying to dress to some degree modestly. She shouldn't be going out to the club with her single girlfriends. So, if I was in

Brian Atlasa relationship with a girl, I don't I don't need back talk about uh you know, she's like, "Oh, hey, I want to go out with my girlfriends. I get drunk. I want to go on a girls trip to Miami." Not

Brian Atlashappening. You want to be single? You can be single. I'm not going to be controlling in that sense. You want to do that? Goodbye. Go be a go back to the streets.

Katie>> She belongs to the streets. >> You go. You want to do a girls trip to Miami? It's over. >> Well, what if she wants to do a girls trip in general, but like you girls are also like married and in committed relationships. Would that change it?

Brian Atlas>> I think there are circumstances that might make that more acceptable. However, I think your single fe if a girl's in a relationship, the single female friends are a terrible influence. They miss their girlfriend. They want to

Brian Atlaskeep doing hood rat [ __ ] with her. They want to they want to they want their single girlfriend back. I think single friends can often be like completely catastrophic to a relationship. So, you

Brian Atlasknow, all her other friends are married. I'm there could be some leeway there. Um, generally speaking though, she's going she's gonna go to Miami.

Alisa Tresenov>> Do you just not trust that she will not do anything? Like you have It seems like a little bit of a like, for lack of better words, it just seems like a little bit of trust issues here, you

Brian Atlasknow, like a confidence in your relationship. >> I don't think it it's really nec I I wouldn't say it has to do with confidence necessarily. I think it's just about as a relationship-minded guy.

Brian AtlasI think in terms of women look to men to protect and protection isn't just, oh, there's a home intruder. Oh, there's

Brian Atlassome guy who's, you know, being an issue or whatever. I think I need to sometimes you got to protect a woman from herself.

Brian AtlasAnd women will sometimes do things that are detrimental to a long-term relationship. Maybe that's because of the social cultural conditioning where, hey, it's okay to go. Maybe you had a

Brian Atlasguy, a boyfriend who didn't have boundaries or didn't know to tell you, yeah, I'm not cool with you twerking in a club. I'm not cool with you dressing a certain way. I'm not cool with you

Brian Atlasmoving like you're single, cuz now we're in a relationship, right? You should move like you're in a relationship. And I personally I think going out to bars

Brian Atlasand clubs and nightclubs that is not behavior becoming of a woman who's in a relationship. >> Why? >> What about one thing? Um >> well, let me finish my point really

Brian Atlasquick here. And I think this comes down to when a man gets in a relationship you the women the female expectation on the man is like you would think it's cheating if I approached a girl

Brian Atlas>> at a club right >> no no if I approached a girl and hit on a girl would you think that that's cheating >> if I'm in a relationship right don't

Brian Atlasapproach men >> so we're not the same like me if if uh uh to use I guess an analogy with like animals or something like you guys have

Brian Atlasdifferent this is going to sound cringe and autistic. You guys have diff a different tool set. You guys have uh you

Brian Atlasknow maybe an animal has claws and another has horns, right? Uh you want men to put away their horns. I should have thought this one through.

Brian AtlasThis is actually Hold on. Let me abandon that cuz I can't even think through [laughter] the [ __ ] analogy. Scratch that. What I'm trying to get here is men and women have different mating

Brian Atlasstrategies. So, as men, when we get into a relationship, there's an expectation that we give up our edge. We give up the way that we meet women, which is to be

Brian Atlasproactive. But women are passive. You are passive when you're dating. You won't go up to a guy to Okay, don't give me Well, I know sometimes one time I approached a guy. I get it. Sometimes

Brian Atlaswomen do go up to men, but women, you have a passive dating strategy. You don't go up to the guy, you put yourself in a position to be approached. You go to the club, you knowing the guy will

Brian Atlasapproach you. You go to the club, you go to the bar knowing men will approach you. You post the thirst trap photo on Instagram. You don't slide into dudes DMs. You you post the story, you post

Brian Atlasthe Instagram post because you know guys will DM you. And so we ask men in relationships, you ask men, we got to give up our edge. Of course, it would be cheating if we

Brian Atlasapproach a girl, but you still go to the club. You're still sourcing the entire time we're in a relationship. Oh, I've got a boyfriend, but here's my Instagram. You are still sourcing when

Brian Atlasyou're in a relationship. Now, you might not cheat. I There is women who can go to the club and they would never think about cheating. I don't care. There's an appearance of impropriy that I'm not

Brian Atlasokay with. Also, e even removing the component of her willfully cheating >> in terms of being a uh protecting her, women get drugged at the club. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Also, by the way, just to be clear, this could be a from my perspective, maybe you guys are like, "Whoa, okay, I date guys who drink and blah blah blah." I don't drink. >> I don't go to the bar. I don't go to the

Brian Atlasclub. I don't go to the party. I don't I don't do drugs. I don't do any of that. So, I would hope, look, if my girl drinks a little bit,

Brian Atlasnot at the club or the bar, but if she's hanging out with me and she wants a a bit of wine or whatever, although what I found actually, even if I've dated a girl who who used to drink, she stops

Brian Atlasdrinking when she's with me, I think. So, it could be just a complete mismatch of like respective I don't know what the right word is. perspective um >> like boundaries

Brian Atlas>> approaches >> like values and like >> I'm not in the I don't go to the club. I don't go to the bar. I don't drink. Uh I value um >> it sounds like

Brian Atlas>> soiety makes it sound like she used to be a drug addict or an alcoholic. >> Um I value a woman who does not partake in that stuff. Right. Mhm. >> So, I think honestly, but the type of

Brian Atlasgirl that would be right for me would probably be some girls just don't have an interest. Like some girls are like, I don't go to the club. I don't go to the bar. How However, though, I think it is

Brian Atlasconceivable that I could meet a girl who she's going down that path being a little [ __ ] and I can fix her. >> Oh, [clears throat] god.

Brian Atlas>> I can fix her. But yeah, she's got a So, I think I to to finish up on the different ma uh dating strategies,

Brian Atlasmen are proactive, women are passive. I think if I have to give up my proactive approach, women have to give up their passive approach. And that

Brian Atlasmeans you got to cut out the bars and clubs and posting thirst traps on Instagram. By the way, also I hold men to account, too. Men in a relationship should not be liking other girls photos.

Brian AtlasThey shouldn't be following some [ __ ] Instagram thought, some Instagram model. Uh they shouldn't be following any other girls. >> Would you go to the club with your

Annie (HR)girlfriend if she wanted to go like let's say every other weekend? So she's not going with her girlfriend, she's going with you. But she doesn't want a drink. Let's say she just wants to dance cuz like >> oh my god, what

Brian Atlaslike what are your There's like no to have seven children. You're going to have seven children. >> Seven sons. >> You're going to be barefoot in the kitchen and I'm going to everything's going to be taken care of. You're never

Brian Atlasgoing to have to work again. And we're going to live in a nice house and all your needs uh uh are going to be taken care of and uh we're going to build a

Brian Atlasdynasty. Our our children are going to be warriors. They're going to be uh [ __ ] legends. And uh you don't need to worry about the club. [ __ ] the club.

KatieLet's focus on dynasty. Let's focus on legacy. [ __ ] You want to go to the club and [ __ ] dance to Usher? What the [ __ ] >> What if she doesn't want to dance to

KatieUsher? What if she's a ballroom dancer and the only place to go is to a dance hall, country dance hall to go swing dancing cuz swing dancers go. >> I don't like to dance. >> That's how my husband and I met. >> I'm I'm a ballroom dancer.

Brian Atlas>> I'm a dancer. So >> ladies, focus on the big picture here. Focus on the big picture. >> It's all about you. We get it. >> No, it's not. >> No compromise. >> Well, it's not about me. It's about family. Familia. Blood.

Brian Atlas>> Familia. >> Blood. Family. You guys want You're wasting your time at the bar and the club. Let's pump out seven sons and build a [ __ ] clan.

Brian Atlas>> You're [laughter] almost there. Forget seven daughters. Well, we can have some dollars, too. But build a [ __ ] clan. Have your eye on the bigger picture. You want to [ __ ] dance to SW >> of time.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> What the [ __ ] >> I think the club is the biggest waste of time, money, energy. It's only for single people. It's like Tinder in real life. >> There's just groups of people trying to [ __ ] each other. Like, there's no

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> couples can totally go and have a good time and >> Yeah. Maybe together. >> Yeah, exactly. They're both into that. They go together. >> But that's just like when I was working at the strip club.

Brian Atlas>> I had a couple come in together >> and to the strip club. Very common. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean that happens, but no, I wouldn't I wouldn't do it. Um and then going just to the club with your

Katiegirlfriend. >> No. Also, I just think it's generally not safe. >> Is she allowed to go hang out with her girlfriends? >> Yeah. You want to get brunch? Go for it.

Brian AtlasI'm not like keep [ __ ] [laughter] look I'm look and I my you guys might think I'm like super controlling or whatever. I'm not checking the girls. I don't I'm not looking at your phone. I'm not [ __ ]

Brian AtlasWhere are you going? Where are you? I don't do that [ __ ] I don't do that [ __ ] Right. But >> uh there's just certain behavior I don't want my girl doing. But yeah, she wants to go get lunch or dinner with her

Katiegirlfriends. That's fine. You can't be at the club though. You You want to go to Trader Joe's? Go to Trader Joe's. >> Never go to the club ever again. What if it's like your best friend's bachelorette?

Brian Atlas>> Oh my god, that'd be so hot if some girl came to me. Brian, I I will never go to the club again. That's how much I respect you. That's a huge win for the

Annie (HR)guy and it's a win for the girl. >> I don't think it's disrespectful to want to go dancing. >> It's disrespectful. It's not If it's like with your partner, that's like what gets me. It's like you

Annie (HR)it's you can't it's not even like an activity you want to participate in with her like to have like it it's like hiking it's like a date just go it's you're doing something together >> it's his boundary >> I know but

Annie (HR)>> you know >> it just it's the fact there's no wiggle room there's no compromising like if the girl wanted this at least a little bit once once a month >> find a new >> once a what do you every other week once a month

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> you can look in the corners >> dance are you addicted to the club do you But you know what? My husband and I have a good time dancing together. >> But he likes that. He doesn't like that.

Brian AtlasThat's a compatibility. >> I don't like it. I think the club is uh I think the club is uh I just also I don't look if she goes alone. I just

Brian Atlasdon't even if like look she'll never cheat on me. Whatever. It's just not safe. It's not safe. She could get [ __ ] something put in her drink or you know who knows. I'm like

Brian AtlasI have to consider what are the potential risks >> as her protector too like you >> yeah I think the club is stupid >> look and I also think part of protection

Brian Atlasit's not just even like the physical threat even you know the you know home invasion but even the club but also I think you have to protect a woman's spirit and you have to protect her mind

Brian Atlasbecause there's a lot of [ __ ] propaganda out there. And I think both men and women can succumb to propaganda. And as the man, you have to protect your

Brian Atlasyour wa your wife, your girlfriend, your kids, your family from that propaganda. Are you going to send your kid to public school? Who knows who the [ __ ] teacher is? Maybe you should. Maybe we're going to homeschool our kids. I

Brian Atlasdon't know who her who who the teacher is. Are they gonna are who knows what they're going to [ __ ] do to the kid? Who knows? Mhm.

Brian Atlas>> Who knows? I need to protect and insulate my family from propaganda of the spirit of the mind.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Why would you guys want to even go to a club in the first place? Like, what's the point? A club, a bar? >> Oh, I I completely disagreed with that. You weren't here, but I think clubs are for single people and stupid. So,

Lada>> but I go with >> Well, even even single, like, what's the point? I kind of agree with that too. Like I don't drink or smoke. So I kind of be like

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> for the people who do drink that's usually where it is would be like a bar or whatever. Drinking in your house is kind of sad. >> I mean sure. Is it like a self-gratification thing? probably just

Katielike yeah like a self-gratification thing like most things like >> so the only reason I personally go to a club because uh I've been sober since I was 17 um is I'm a trained ballroom dancer and I swing dance and I do every

Katiesingle partner dance. So I do Latin, I do twostep, I swing all of that and a lot of swing dancers go to uh not your typical club but specifically a dance

Katiehall or I go to socials. So that would be why I go to a club and I only go every so often because I'm the only person in my friend group that dances. >> Do you dance with men >> like there that are not your

Katie>> Yeah, with that partner dancing. So you go to a social and then swing dancing. >> Um >> also you cannot let your wife or girlfriend take jiu-jitsu classes with a private

Brian Atlasinstructor. [laughter] You can't. Uh look, you got you can't let them do this [ __ ] Tom Brady. Oh, go take some jiu-jitsu lessons. Oh my god. >> I I'll say that. Um >> his wife cheated on him.

Alisa Tresenov>> Yeah, now she's pregnant. Oh no, she gave birth. >> Yeah. Yikes. >> Um uh I don't I haven't really gone to clubs in a while for like single,

Alisa Tresenovdancing, whatever. I have musician friends who perform at clubs and I go there to to support them and listen to their music. And the times that I've

Alisa Tresenovgone, I was for the the most part sober because I went by myself because I wanted to keep an eye on like my surroundings and who was around. >> Yeah. I mean, I look there there's

Brian Atlasobviously different venues. There's different kinds of events. Uh this is obviously going to play factor. I mean, I think the clear-cut thing here that

Alisa TresenovI'm talking about is nightclubs and bars. These are >> But [sighs] you're not wrong about the passive thing because even when I would

Alisa Tresenovgo to to a club to a marquee or towel or something to watch a musician perform, I would have guys come up to me while I'm just minding my own business and trying

Alisa Tresenovto offer me drinks. >> And and it's that's when you phrase it that way, the passive thing. It's like I I get that. Do I engage? No. But that's

Alisa Tresenovjust me. A bar is going to bars with a friend is just like just stepping outside of the apartment and having a drink with a friend at a sit down spot like facing each other. >> Sure.

Brian Atlas>> I think I guess to uh the final thing on this topic and then we're pretty close to the end here. I think that we when it comes to like the king queen treatment,

Brian Atlas>> traditional treatment, etc. I think that we teach women how to expect men to treat them. Uh I don't think we teach

Brian Atlaswomen how to treat men. And conversely, we teach men how to treat women, but we don't teach men what to expect from

Brian Atlaswomen or to how to expect to be treated by women. >> Well, I think that's what feminism did to [clears throat] everyone. L feminism

Tabitha Chang>> like it totally reinvented how women think into being the alpha and they deserve this and this and this and this and then they don't have to give anything back and that's

Tabitha Changhow all of my past relationships ultimately failed. So, >> Ava, Ava, Ava. Oh, hi.

Brian Atlas>> Aa, [laughter] >> uh, you've had pretty terrible dates. Like, you've been stood up twice in one night >> and being left at the theater. So, twi twice in one night. [clears throat] So, you had like two dates or >> So, I had a date set up to the movies. I

Courtney King / Jamie / Avapaid for it and everything. I pre-ordered the tickets and he was supposed to meet me there. He texted and was like, "I'm on my way." and I showed up and he ghosted me. Didn't didn't show

Courtney King / Jamie / Avaup. And so then I like I went down to Walmart, grabbed my snacks, came in. I was like 30 minutes early and I was going to go watch the movie cuz I didn't just order these tickets to go home. So

Courtney King / Jamie / AvaI'm sitting there and I get like this message from this other guy and it I was on a dating app for literally a day. It lasted a day and then I was like I'm over this because of this experience.

Courtney King / Jamie / AvaBut he messaged asked what I was doing and I was like, "Well, funny enough, I got stood up so I have an extra ticket if you want to come." He was 40 minutes away and so he was like, "Yes, I'm going to come." He shows up, he gets his ticket, he comes in, he sits down, he's

Courtney King / Jamie / Avasitting down from like next to me for maybe like 5 minutes and he like looks at me and he's like, "I'm going to go run to the concessions. Do you want anything?" And I said, "No." And then he just like left me there. He never came back.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Damn. >> Yeah. What movie was it? Sorry. I think it was about Predator Badlands. Oh, okay. Yeah. And I actually totally forgot about this, but I had a boyfriend

Courtney King / Jamie / Avafor two days in October. >> Two days. What? >> Well, um well, I actually offered to

Courtney King / Jamie / Avastay cuz I was like, I'll I'll stay with you and I won't go to Texas. And he was like, no, like go to Texas. And I was like, okay. Well, cuz he didn't want me

Courtney King / Jamie / Avato like make a decision like for because of him, even though I feel like that was it was totally acceptable to request that of a woman. And he decided that he

Courtney King / Jamie / Avadidn't want to date me because he didn't. His words were, "I don't want you to go to Texas for 2 months and then somebody else better come along and I

Courtney King / Jamie / Avahave to call and tell you that I found somebody else." And he also told me that he didn't he wasn't ready to not be single yet and that I just wasn't a good enough option.

Brian Atlas>> Uh you also wrote that uh you don't think that I'm extreme enough. >> You you said you think a lot like Nick Fuentes.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Yeah. >> Okay. Good [snorts] times. Um would you date him? >> Nick Fuentes? >> Yeah. >> Does he mog? I would I would actually. >> You would date Nick?

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> I would. >> Okay. >> What is >> He's He's got some strong stances. >> No. And >> especially about women. >> God. >> Yeah. I agree though. I mean, biblically to that standard, everything that he

Brian Atlassays is very accurate. >> Okay. Uh let's see here. Katie. >> Yes. >> Yep. Uh we talked about the 11-day long date. We already talked about that. You dated a guy for Oh, this is interesting.

Katiedated a guy for a year and a half that kept you secret because why? >> Um, so this is I kind of touched on it already. Um, but did you?

Katie>> Yeah, he basically Yeah, he essentially that so um I I've been modeling for nearly 15 years and basically he didn't like that. Um, and then come to find out

Katiealso um I am divorced. Um, and he was embarrassed of that as well. And uh, so I also wrote a book. Um, I'm a domestic violence survivor, rape and assault survivor and I wrote a book about it. And at the end I talk about victim

Katiementality and how it keeps you from achieving your dreams. And he was extremely embarrassed of that and didn't agree with it and told me that I should burn my book even though I wrote it to empower women that have gone through these things and men as well that have

Katiegone through these things. Um, yeah. And he just he didn't like it. And it's the same guy that after that told me he wouldn't take me seriously and then after we broke up told me that he has chosen me to have his children and that

KatieI should be oh so honored. >> Um and I was like this doesn't make any sense. So >> and he hid you for a year and a half. Good times. >> Yeah, >> good times. Nice. >> Can I add to my dating experience really

Courtney King / Jamie / Avaquick? >> Is it interesting or >> Yeah. So, I actually just recently had a date with a guy and we were sitting at the dinner table and he asked me, >> "Oh my god, salad." >> um what I was looking for. >> So, I described kind of like what I was

Brian Atlaslooking for in a >> guy. Let's do this. I feel like salads. Are you fine waiting until after the show? Like we can just put in the refrigerator. >> That's fine. >> Are you guys Who else can you guys wait? Just >> We're almost done. So, >> does anybody want pizza?

Brian Atlas>> Does anybody want pizza? Is okay though. Here. Um sorry, Mary. Can you take the Sorry. Take the salad back. Uh, if anybody wants pizza, I think that's a bit easier at the table. I feel like salad's just way too complicated. >> There you go.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> And [snorts] then we'll give it we'll divvy divvy it up a little bit. Okay, quick. >> Um, we were sitting at the dinner table. He asked me what I was looking for and a guy. So, I told him and he told me that he didn't think I he was the guy for me and that I described his best friend.

Courtney King / Jamie / AvaSo, he proceeded to FaceTime his best friend at the table and tried to pass me off. >> Oh my god. >> I think that's [snorts] okay. >> That's weird. >> I think that's okay. No, like it didn't bother me at all. It was just that was just the craziest thing that had ever happened.

Brian Atlas>> It's actually really sweet of him. >> I don't think that that >> he was like >> like if I don't know if I was on a date with a girl like Yeah, maybe it stings a little bit if she's like, "Hey, look, I'm Well, I mean, if she's polite about it, I don't know if it's a good match, but I know a girl who

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> you would like. I mean, >> yeah. >> Better than just a rejection. >> Yeah, >> maybe you're getting a I don't know. >> He told me that he was like, I think I'm too much of a degenerate for you. for his exact words. >> I think that's fine. >> Which I thought was

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> I'm fine with that. >> Such an interesting thing to say on pizza introspective. You know, he knew. [laughter] >> Did anybody else want pizza just for now or No,

Brian Atlas>> just one. >> Oh, great. Okay, that was kind of >> Yeah, more pizza. >> What a waste. Okay. All right. Well, I guess I should have checked better. It's all good. Uh okay. Uh blasting through

Brian Atlasjust a few more. Uh, so I know you said that you don't want to ever be pregnant and give birth. Um, what would you do if you did get pregnant though? >> Panic.

Katie>> Would you get an abortion? >> Full-blown panic. Um, I think it would honestly be circumstantial cuz whenever I got pregnant before with my ex-husband, um, I we initially it was

Katiekind of his decision. So again, to submitting to a man or whatever, um he wanted us to get an abortion because he was uh he was leaving the country. He got a contract to work overseas. >> Um and so it just wasn't a good time. I was still in college. He had just

Katiefinished college and he was leaving. It didn't make any sense. And then I ended up having um a really horrid miscarriage. Um anyway, >> did you have more than one miscarriage? >> No, just the one >> like in [clears throat] total. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Just one. All right. Are you like would have have you thought about like getting sterilized or something? >> Uh I have. Um but >> would you or you just take birth control or whatever? >> Um I don't take birth control because it

Katieit really messes with your hormones. Um so I'm just >> rolling the dice there. >> I'm just very I'm very safe. Um and then I I track my cycle and and all of that. Um >> so um yeah, but it really messed with my

Katiewith my hormones. I was on birth control for like 10 years and it actually that actually can make you sterile. >> Jamie, your notes. Uh, okay. You do Only Fans? >> Yeah. >> What kind of weird [ __ ] do you do? >> Um, like >> closer to the mic, please. >> Like what do I post?

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Is it BG content? >> No, I only do solo content and I would eventually like if I can do like girl on girl content. >> GG. Okay. Um, I I actually don't think

Brian Atlasthere was anything else in your notes, but you I did notice you have an interesting tattoo. >> You have a lower back tattoo. Are you Can you show it to the camera?

Brian Atlas>> Just uh, you know, don't uh, moon us or anything, but uh, turn more. Turn more. >> Uh, no. No. Lift up. No. Turn

Brian Atlas>> more. >> What are you? It says, okay, it says made in heaven. Wait, can you Whatever. They get the idea. Made in heaven. No, we >> Okay, we got it. >> Made in heaven. >> Yeah.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> What is that? Just curious. What's that? >> I also have one on my bikini line. >> I'm okay. [laughter] >> That one says eat me. >> Oh my god. What? >> Yeah, it's a little heart outline that says eat me in it. >> She's a surprise. Watch

Brian Atlas>> what? >> Boost audio. Um, eat me. Yeah, >> like oral sex. >> Yeah. >> Is she still here? >> No. >> Okay, we're good. Good. [laughter] >> All right, she's gonna [ __ ] puke again.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Oh my [snorts] god, bro. Okay. Um, eat me. Like the insults or oral sex? >> Have you guys ever heard that song Peaches and Eggplants by 21 Savage? She got a tattoo by her bikini line that says, "Eat me."

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Who the [ __ ] is that guy? >> Oh my god. What is that? [laughter] >> I've never heard That's About You. >> I know it. >> I don't know. It's a song and like I got the heart outline and I was like thinking of that song when I was getting it. So I was like, "Oh my god, maybe I'll just get that tattooed." And I was

Brian Atlaslike, "Okay, period." >> I once, this was a long time ago and I've revised my Well, sometimes you don't know what a girl's dealing with in terms of tattoos until

Brian Atlasher clothes are off. I went on one date with this girl and I think perhaps luckily we didn't end up

Brian Atlashaving sex, but you know, uh I think we kissed or whatever. And right above her

Brian Atlas[ __ ] she had a tattoo that said yolo. >> Oh gosh, [snorts] >> that's funny. >> So good. Good thing I didn't Who knows? But that's not a good That's a bad sign.

Courtney King / Jamie / AvaYeah, >> a yolo tattoo above the [ __ ] >> Oh my god. >> See, I wouldn't do that. But this one's like cute and dainty. >> But what? Made in heaven. What does that mean? Made in heaven. >> It was

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> It's a lower back [ __ ] stamp >> made in heaven tattoo. >> I liked it. >> Were you made in heaven? Like is it about you?

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> I mean, it can be. Is it about your ass? >> I mean, just think of it when I don't know if I can say this. when you're like in that position and like you know you're

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> oh >> and you're staring at the tattoo like >> Huh? Huh? >> I mean I just

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava[clears throat] >> So you weren't made in heaven but So >> So when the guy's hitting it doggy style, [laughter] >> he sees it. >> I think I just thought that the tattoo placement was like good. The tattoo like

Brian Atlaswas good. Like >> are you like is do you have like a breeding kink or something? Like a breeding thing. >> Like you want to >> So what is being made in heaven though? Like it' be your child or >> No, it's like the body the sexual act in

Courtney King / Jamie / Avaheaven. >> I would say it's the body feeling like he's hitting it. He's reading it like [clears throat] into the mic. He's hitting it. He's reading it and he's like made in heaven. Damn right.

Brian Atlas>> But he's saying it while he's hitting it. No, he reads the tattoo made in heaven. >> I don't either. >> So like what if I um like what if here like above my penis I just like had like

Courtney King / Jamie / Avathis is the best sex of your life. >> I would make it the best sex of her life. >> Well, I would hope it would be if you have it tattooed. >> There's only one way to find out. >> I feel like you think it's some loophole

Brian Atlasor something like Well, if I have the tattoo, it has to be heaven. >> That's right. Like what if I just [laughter] what if I'm a premature ejaculator, but I'm like this is the best sex of your life. >> You're manifesting.

Brian Atlas>> You're Yeah, [laughter] you could I could be manifesting it. I could be manifesting it. That's >> I'ming that I made in heaven. >> I thought it was like a tattoo like you were made in heaven. So I was thinking

Brian Atlaslike you should get the tattoo revised. It should say made in Cancun spring break after Backstreet Boys concert. [laughter] I will say that

Alisa Tresenov>> they did perform in Cancun. I think in the late 90s or >> I will say that depending on tattoos if I can't really and I have some, but it's like a certain style. If I don't like

Alisa Tresenovthe type of tattoos you have, it'll be hard for me to be with you just cuz I have to continuously stare at them. >> And it's like you do what you want, get what you want, but I can't. >> Who here has tattoos? Show fans tattoos. You know what I just realized?

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> My tattoo [clears throat] I could have proved this to you so much long ago. My tattoo is my son's name. My first baby. >> What does it say? >> Stefan. Oh, Stefan. >> Oh, >> yeah. >> Yeah. >> My first son. >> No, that's good. >> Yeah,

Brian Atlas>> that's good. Um, no tattoos. >> Am I the only one that doesn't have tattoos? >> I don't have anybody. >> I mean, me and >> every have a sleeve. >> We're the only ones without tattoos.

Brian Atlas>> Great. Now I feel bad. I was mean to her earlier. Okay. Don't listen to me. I'm I'm a grumpy old jaded man. I don't know. Don't listen to me. >> Don't listen to me. I'm >> Yeah. Now you find out that I don't drink, don't smoke, don't have tattoos.

Brian AtlasAnd >> Oh, I didn't know about them not drinking and smoking. No, but I'm just saying. Uh it's not even that. I just uh you know,

Brian Atlas>> I got to apologize. Got to apologize. >> Anyway, so uh wait, >> apologize. >> Oh, you want an apology? No, I don't know if I Look, I don't know if an apology is warranted, but I will say,

Brian Atlaslook, uh, >> I >> You want to pursue your dreams? Pursue your dreams. You know, you want to do it. Uh, don't listen. Who what what do I know? >> Yeah. >> What do I know? I don't know anything about music. I [ __ ] listen to Pearl

Brian AtlasJam. >> Well, Pearl Pearl Jam is great, but I don't listen to like modern music. I don't know who Sway Lee is. Obviously, I'm not a [laughter] Obviously, I'm not

Brian Atlasa cool guy. Obviously, I'm not in the no, you know. You know, I'm not in the no, you know. But, uh, you know, listen, I will say though in the the one criticism you said that the minimum, and

Brian AtlasI don't know if you're trolling, but you because you wrote a smiley face and a heart. What is the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband? You said $10 million. >> I'm sorry. I had to bring I had to bring

Brian Atlasyou down. I had to bring you back down a little bit. $10 million. But you want 10 million because you'll make 10 million. >> Yeah. So, I hear women say this, "Well, I'm going to make this much money, so

Ladawell, of course, I want the man who makes uh the same as me or more." Um, but uh yeah, >> it's kind of like if I don't make that

Brian Atlasamount, then I don't expect him to make that amount. No, but you believe you'll be making that much amount because of the the career.

Brian Atlas>> I mean, I'll work on it. >> Would you give up your career for the perfect man? >> Like your dream to sing, would you give it up as a career for the perfect man?

Brian Atlas>> No. >> So this but here hear me out. The perfect man. I think sometimes people misunderstand what I mean. So perfect. So whatever you think perfect would be.

Brian AtlasSo perfect looks, perfect personality, perfect uh loyalty, he would never leave you. Uh perfect money. So I guess you would

Brian Atlasmaximize this and say he's a billionaire. Um you so he makes so much money or he has so much money you never have to work again. Um perfect perfect

Brian Atlasat best in bed. everything that could be perfect, treats you the best, perfect family, perfect uh he'd be the perfect father, all these things. Perfect man. Do you give it up? Do you give up your

Ladadream for the perfect man? >> No, I'd rather be single. >> You'd rather be single? >> I am. That's

Brian Atlas>> Hey, look, people have their pursuits and it is what it is. I think though uh I don't think that there's a lot of well I don't think there is anyone who's perfect. You're going to make a lot of

Brian Atlascompromises when it comes to who you ultimately end up with. You might end up with the love of your life and you might think they're beautiful and very attractive, but I think ultimately there are some things that you know perhaps might not be maximal in all aspects in

Brian Atlasterms of who you end up with. Like me for example, even though there's a sort of for men, men men are like I would give up my career for the perfect woman.

Brian Atlas>> Now you might say, "Well, Brian, you're not steadfast enough. You don't have you don't have the mission in you." I think I do, but I I acknowledge simultaneously that the perfect woman is so rare. Well,

Brian Atlasnot it's not that she's rare. She doesn't exist. Um, so for the perfect woman, how about this? Let me ask a question. Going

Brian Atlasaround the table. If you could get I know some of you are in relationships, but hypothetically, if you could get a man who's 80%

Brian Atlasof all the things that you want, but he's missing like the 20% or whatever. Uh, I don't know if I'd frame it as settling, but would you accept that? >> That's already what I'm doing.

Brian AtlasGood to know. Would you would you accept that? He's 80% of all the things that you want. >> Well, yeah, probably. >> Uh, yes, you would take him. >> Yeah. >> Okay. What about you? >> No.

Katie>> No. >> I don't think so. >> Wouldn't take him. What about him? Yeah. What about you? [clears throat] >> Yes. But also, I'm curious what the 20% is. >> Depends on the 20%.

SPEAKER_01>> Yeah, that is fair to say. That's fair to say. Um [sighs] h I'm not actually sure how I would frame it, but what about you?

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> I think it depends as well. If it's like if the 20% is just like looks based like height, weight, eye color, genetics, whatever, then sure. But if it's like

Courtney King / Jamie / Avadeal breakers for me, like >> funny personality, too. >> Well, I feel like personality matters to an extent. Yeah. But >> not deal breaker.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Sure. What about you? >> No, because it's not my husband. [snorts] >> Well, I mean, she's committed. >> I think so. I think they've done this as a study actually or they, you know, they

Brian Atlaspulled men and women on this question and men jumped at it. Oh, of course, 80% that'd be fantastic. Whereas a higher proportion of women are like, no, if I

Alisa Tresenovcan't get 100%. I don't want anything. >> Surprised. I was surprised for this time. Most of you guys said >> I'm not looking for 100%. I'm looking

Alisa Tresenovfor whatever amount he can give and the rest what he can't give. Can we find a way to find common ground? Can I look past those things?

Alisa Tresenov>> Cuz not everyone there's no one not everyone's perfect. Everyone has like their flaws, issues, whatever. So, I'm not saying I'm 100% either. There are

Brian Atlasthings that I do and think and say that, >> you know, aren't that make me not even close to 80%. You know, >> $10 million though a year. You won't

Brian Atlassettle for less. >> Well, around that amount. This has to be exact. >> Okay. 9 million, 8 million, 7 million.

Brian AtlasEven if you said 1 million, >> uh, that's a lot of money. But so you're saying let's say hypothetically of course we all know you're going to be extremely successful

Brian Atlasbut let's say for whatever reason it doesn't happen and you are a like many actresses and whatever well you're not trying to be an actress I guess uh you

Brian Atlasend up as a waitress or you know whatever it is you uh work your barista if you were let's say you were making I don't know it could be some other job

Brian Atlas$70,000 a Would you be fine dating a guy who makes $70,000 a year? >> I'd probably stay single till I achieve my dreams. >> I have a question for you.

Annie (HR)>> Yeah. >> Do you think as you are 18 years old that your aspirations and dreams they might be a little naive?

Annie (HR)I mean, I already mentioned that I think that my self-esteem is a little too high and I you think it'll change. >> Yeah. No, >> your opinions your as you grow or do you think this going to be like your your

Ladamindset forever? >> Well, I think it's going to lower a little bit as I grow because life experience is going to hit me someday and I >> maybe eventually you'll you'll want that

Lada70k man. >> Not 70k though. Not 70k. I would rather like if I have to work on myself or I stay single till I actually

Ladaconsider myself worthy of being uh able to hold up something. >> What's the definition of worthy?

Lada>> I mean if if I can't support myself, I mean 70k supports me but not to the point where I'm glad with how it supports me. So, I guess that just goes back to like

Annie (HR)what you were saying about those high expectations and the high selfesteem thing that you were saying. >> It's okay. >> She's 18, dude. >> Well, that's why that's why I'm asking like, you know,

Annie (HR)>> to reflect that maybe this is like a a naive thought that you could >> grow to adjust as you go on. >> Do you What are you like triggering at like what are you pushing at towards me for >> I'm not trying to trigger you. I'm just

Annie (HR)trying just just saying something that you might think about. >> You're telling me to consider to neglect that. >> No, I'm saying is I'm trying to get you to reflect. If this is what you're thinking now, is it really what you

Alisa Tresenovthink you're going to think forever? >> Dude, when I was 18, I thought that if I couldn't figure out what I wanted to do in college, I was going to chop my hair off and move to France. Okay? Like, we all have different ideas and expectations. You know what I mean? So,

Ladalet her figure [ __ ] out. >> So, why did you not chop your hair off? But wait, but wait friends. >> Look, I think look, we can let her dream. However, um I I

Brian Atlasdon't think there's anything wrong with wanting to pursue a passion or pursue your dream or pursue your career. I think my primary objection is

Brian Atlas>> is the number. Well, look, also my confusion here is if you're making $10 million, would it really matter [sighs] all that

Brian Atlasmuch? Like, you're making so much money, $10 million a year. >> You could date a guy who's technically broke and be totally fine. >> No, financially, then I'm a sugar mommy.

Brian AtlasI'm not a sugar mommy. But you realize like, okay, so when you say you want to date a guy who makes $10 million a year a year, that's such a small proportion of men,

Brian Atlas>> a really small amount of men. >> Uh it's 0.00001% or something. Very few men make this much money. >> Um I don't even how many how many I I'm

Brian Atlasnot even interested in a percentage. How many men here? Let me just ask chap GPT. Um let's just do this. How many men in

Brian Atlasthe United Oops. In the US earn 10 million a year? Hope they don't give me a percentage. Let's see.

Brian AtlasUh, one sec. Uh, >> okay. So, according to IRS statistics of income,

Brian Atlas280 individual tax returns reported adjusted gross income of 10 million or more. 2,000 men. [clears throat] And most of

Brian Atlasthose men are probably probably old, probably already in a relationship most likely. Um, married, kids, old. So, you probably want a guy. I don't know. Let's

Brian Atlassay you make by the time you're 30, you're making that much. [sighs and gasps] The amount of men like that you would I don't know. Like, do you date older men?

Brian Atlas>> Um, like how older, how much older? No, >> I don't know. Like 50? >> No, I would not. >> So, okay. Say you're 30. Would you date a guy Maybe you date a guy between 30 and 40?

Brian Atlas>> If I'm 30, maybe. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's just so few men that make that much money. So, it's a bit unrealistic. But then like let's say you don't make that much money. The question

Brian Atlasis what's like what do you reduce your threshold of the man's yearly income to be >> like 100,000 or is that too low? >> It's a million.

Brian Atlas>> Still a million. >> I can't I say you're broke number. >> Let's say you're broke. Minimum to yearly income to date you. If I'm broke, minimal income for him. >> How much does he have to make? >> If I'm broke.

Brian Atlas>> If you're broke. >> If I'm broke, then I'm probably single, too. >> Well, I mean, you can be broken as a woman and still date, but um just for the hypothetical, >> if I would be broke,

Brian AtlasI'm trying to think. >> Okay, let's say you have you are a barista and you have a studio apartment. Mhm. >> So,

Brian Atlas>> you're not broke, but you're kind of broke. But, um, what's the minimum yearly income for a man to be your future husband in those circumstances?

Lada>> Well, that's a kind of a wide range because I don't know where I'm going to be in >> You're a barista >> that $20 an hour.

LadaHow long am I going to be doing that? I mean, >> hey, you gave it a shot. But >> my future husband, how am I going to know what I'm going to be earning in the future? >> If you're a barista at 30,

Lada>> you got it. Pack it up. >> Oh, I'm 30. I'm 30. Okay, let me lock in. I'm already 30. I'm a barista and I have an apartment, studio apartment. >> Yeah. >> Well, he would probably

LadaNo, I'd probably be single then. I don't deserve to have a relationship. >> Wait, what? That doesn't even make sense. >> If I don't make it, I don't deserve to. >> Wait, women don't need to make money to

Ladadeserve a relationship. >> I I consider that my opinion. Okay. But [snorts] >> I don't I don't think anyone's supposed

Brian Atlasto like financially like I don't >> Women have done it through all of human history. >> Let me ask your parents. Are they still together? >> No.

SPEAKER_05>> They're separated. >> Yeah. >> Your mom poisoned your father and murdered him. Oh my. So, >> are your parents both of them alive? >> Yeah.

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