Brian Made Her PUKE?! Reformed HØE?! Woke Girl Came To DESTROY Brian In A DEBATE?! | Dating Talk 277

Date: 2026-01-12

Duration: 10h 20m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CCourtney King >

JJamie Ericson >

AAlisa Tresenov >

TTabitha Chang >

KKatie (Model)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_03Courtney King / Jamie / Ava(guest)

SPEAKER_04Alisa Tresenov(guest)

SPEAKER_06Lada(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Katie(guest)

SPEAKER_12Tabitha Chang(guest)

SPEAKER_13Annie (HR)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Levi(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 9 guests introduce themselves

Key MomentBrian's 7-point argument for not performing oral sex

ControversyFirst ever vomiting incident on the Whatever Podcast

Key MomentAva: drunk on Jose Cuervo, stabbed herself, beat up 3 people, jail

QuoteLada demands $10M/year minimum husband income

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

9 guests including Levi (male), Lada (18yo Russian rapper).

Jamie Relationship

Met boyfriend at 11, 3 kids, cheating history.

WoW Dating Analogy

Brian's World of Warcraft meta analogy for dating strategy.

Brian's Oral Sex 7 Arguments

Extended 7-point argument for not performing oral sex.

Vomiting Incident

First vomiting incident in show history.

Ava Stabbing/Jail

Stabbed herself drunk, beat up 3 people, jail.

Body Count Round

Range from 3 to 55+.

Transcript

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Brian Atlas>> Oh my god, this is so incoherent. Even [ __ ] >> the most virtuous, godly, the most Christian woman you could ever find would still have a looks preference.

Brian AtlasThis is completely horseshit, dog [ __ ] [ __ ] Even religious women are going to look at a guy and like decide to date him perhaps on a variety of things, but they're def like this idea that really

Brian AtlasChristian women are just like going to give the super ugly guy a chance because he's super Christian. Nah, it's [ __ ] coping [ __ ] Like even religious women care about looks. Let's get that. That's [ __ ]

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> What I'm trying to say is the only person or thing that will see you as a 10 is God. No other human will see you as a 10. >> Well, I mean I a human could see a woman

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> I mean yeah another human could see you as a 10 if you really love them that much. But I mean it's very rare for another human to see you as a perfect 10 out of 10 because everybody truly has

Courtney King / Jamie / Avatheir flaws. If you really look at somebody that deeply, if you look at yourself that deeply in the mirror, you're going to see your own flaws that you don't like, that you want to change.

Courtney King / Jamie / AvaBut you will eventually, if you have the right mindset, learn to love them and accept them. >> It's not to fully say that you don't accept your flaws. I know I'm average, but it doesn't mean I'm not pretty. I

Tabitha Changthink that I am beautiful. I think I am pretty, and I'm going to tell my children that, too. But based on who the most attractive woman in the world is, do I have any comparison to her? Absolutely not. And it's just the reality of it. And that's fine. It's

Ladanothing bad about that. It's just the reality of it. I just think it's it's inevitable of us to see a person and to rate them be like, "Oh, he's this. He's a 10 out of 10. He's not a 10 out of

Lada10." It's kind of like I feel like it's a reaction that happens in the brain where because he I think he said it I completely agree with the fact that we

Ladadon't even control like that happens in our brain that we decide like oh this person is attractive to me he's a 10 out of 10. this person's not attractive to me. He's

Alisa Tresenovlike a four out of 10. So, at this point, like I can agree with you. >> I don't think every woman is a 10 out of

Alisa Tresenov10 lookswise. I don't think every man is a 10 out of 10 looks wise. Uh but that's and I find there are some guys who I find attractive that if I tell my

Alisa Tresenovfriend, I think that guy is cute, they'll look at him and be like, really him? And I'm like, something about him makes me attracted to you. But I'm not calling him a 10 out of 10. Liam Hemsworth is a 10 out of 10.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't know. Um I guess uh I don't know. I do think that there was

Brian Atlassome overrating by some of the uh women at the table here and uh you were saying something about what was it

Brian Atlasthat there was an issue. I'm trying to remember what you were saying. You're like, "Well, now something about What was it? >> Was it the her with the back?"

Brian Atlas>> No, no, no, no, no. That's not what I was talking about. Um, okay. Well, I'm going to do the segment where I give you guys my rating. [laughter] >> All right. So, look, I'll be I'm not going to be even if I had disagreements

Brian Atlaswith you, I'm going to be fair. I'm not going to intentionally rate you super low because I I I don't even think I've had really any super strong disagreements with anybody tonight. [clears throat] It's been mostly pretty

Brian Atlastame. I'll be fair. I'll give you some positive characteristics you have. I'll give you maybe a negative or two character characteristics you have. And I will give you um by the way to be

Brian Atlasclear, it's on a scale of 0 to 10. Uh almost I don't really think there are any women who are tens. I don't think there really are any women who are zeros. Um that would mean you have

Brian Atlasthere's absolutely nothing redeeming or 10 just I don't think exists, right? Maybe AI can make a 10. Maybe even then, >> uh, who knows? But five is average.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, >> so to be clear, five is average. Just want to And five is not doesn't mean you're ugly if you're five. Means you're average. Uh, a lot of people will find

Brian Atlasaverage attractive. Uh, okay. You gave yourself a 6.5. Uh, do you have a lip filler? >> No. >> Have you had a lip flip? >> No.

Brian Atlas>> Can you turn that way? Uh, not that much. A little. Turn that way a little bit. Not too much though. Too much. There we go. >> Look at me. >> Sorry. >> Okay. Uh, okay. You can look straight.

Brian AtlasThat's fine. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Uh, and I'm not going to be doing body because otherwise that whatever. I'll just give you face ratings. [laughter] I'll give you guys face ratings, I

Brian Atlasguess. Uh [gasps] [sighs]

Brian Atlas>> I sometimes with the negatives I don't want to go to like the most obvious one because I feel like people are already aware of their own insecurities. But um >> yeah,

Brian Atlas>> how about this? I'll rate each of you, but I'll I can I can give you the the sugarcoated version or I could give you just the full-blown just completely honest. Honestly, not pulling any

Alisa Tresenovpunches. >> Do we get to rate you back? >> Oh, I should uh I mean, if you want to >> That would be a fair I think we each can give you our own ratings of yourself. Yeah, I think that's >> I should also I guess I'll start with me

Brian Atlasa little bit. So, I already gave myself 4.5 4.5 4.5 uh positive blue eyes, tall, 6'1. Uh decent facial symmetry. I I do good eye

Brian Atlasarea, although lower eye area kind of weak. Um, need to lose weight. I'm fat. Dadbod. Uh, big nose. [sighs]

Brian AtlasUh, somewhat unbalanced facial thirds. Definitely work on skin clarity. And yeah, so those are some negatives

Brian Atlasfor me. Um, trying to think what else. Uh, weak upper lip, I guess you could say. [laughter] Oh my god, >> that's a new one. Weak upper lip. I mean, I'm white, so me too. A lot of

Brian Atlaswhite people. Not the strongest lips, I guess. Uh, so, okay, that's those are my negatives for that for that reason. I give myself a 4.5. Honestly, if I don't lose weight soon, I think I'll probably end up downgrading to 444 across the

Brian Atlasboard. Uh, need to lose weight for body and face though because when you're you gain weight, you get uh facial chubbiness start. I don't know if the jowls are fully [ __ ] you know. I don't know. The JS will be there maybe one

Brian Atlasday. I got to lose some weight though, boys. I'm [ __ ] fat right now. So, that's my primary thing. Um, don't worry. I won't be that harsh with you guys, though. I'll go [laughter] I can be Yeah. Yeah. I can be harsh with me,

Brian Atlasbut but I'll give you I won't be that harsh with you guys. Um, okay. >> Uh, okay. So, you wanted the brutal thing. >> Go ahead. >> All right. So, I would say uh uh as somebody who myself I have a big nose. I

Brian Atlascan pretty I can narrow into people's noses. So, turn that way again. Uh, you know, the nose is not the nose isn't too bad, but it it there is a bit of a bump. You have a mid- nose bump and it's

Brian Atlascrooked. If you look, >> you do have it is a bit of a bulbous tip. There's sagging in the tip a little bit. >> Um, so I think noses have a like pretty

Brian Atlasmassive impact on facial aesthetics. And I say this to somebody, my nose is big and bulbous, all that [ __ ] So I I get it. Um, I would say overall good facial

Brian Atlasharmony, good facial symmetry. You have nice eyebrows, although I don't know if you like pencil them in a little bit. You have good uh

Brian Atlas>> above average to near striking blue eyes. You have uh >> uh you're from the side the side profile uh

Brian Atlas>> showing the audience. >> It's not the best. Uh, lips. I want to say slightly perhaps slightly above average for a white woman. >> Should I get filler? >> No, don't get filler.

Brian Atlas>> I think filler looks No offense to any women here who have it. >> I just got mine done. I'm not offended by that. >> Do you have [laughter] lip filler or lip flip?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Uh, >> what is a flare? >> I know you have it. I know you have it. >> No. Um, no. Or

Brian Atlas>> uh, can you turn your to the side >> more? >> I don't think you have lip filler. No. Turn to the side. No, I don't think you have lip filler. Uh, yeah. No, lip

Brian Atlasfiller. I think um even though it I guess achieves the the fullness, it looks weird. It you can tell like and if you can tell it creates an uncanny valley. I don't recommend it for you. I

Brian Atlasthink uh even if you have really thin lip, >> I don't I think the lip filler makes it worse. This is but this is my own aesthetic perspective. >> Um also in person versus Instagram. So I

Brian Atlasthink lip filler if we're getting front profile, I think that that will that can be deceiving. But as soon as you turn your head to the side, we can see that [ __ ] But even from the front, sometimes you can tell the lip filler

Brian Atlasaesthetically. I actually think even if you have really thin lips, it's not It's a negative. It's still a negative. Don't get the lip filler. You rated yourself a 6.5.

Brian Atlas[sighs] Um, I'd probably give you a 5.5 or six, somewhere around that region. Chat, chat, now's your time. If you want to

Brian Atlasalso provide a rating, I think six is would probably be a fair rating. Maybe a 5.5. >> Um, you Okay.

Brian AtlasAll right, you gave yourself 10 10 10 across the board. Very confident answer. Uh, let's see here. You are wearing quite a bit of makeup and you're wearing fake lashes, which is going to have

Brian Atlas>> which and maybe we can do it this again at the end of the show when we offer to let everybody take off their makeup. So, when a woman's wearing a lot of makeup, and I know you're wearing makeup, too,

Brian Atlaswhen it's not quite as much as she's wearing, it does make the face rating a little bit difficult. Uh but I can try to go off other things that makeup

Brian Atlasdoesn't have as much of an impact for. Uh but make there's quite you're quite a substantial amount of makeup in the eye area which had can change massively the uh appraisal of >> God facial take it off attractiveness.

Brian Atlas>> I want to take it off. >> Um let's see here. Uh you have good eyebrows. Uh you have above average to near striking blue

Brian Atlaseyes. Uh turn can you turn that way? I actually >> uh you I I like the aesthetics of your nose. Some uh looks maxers would say

Brian Atlasit's [laughter] maybe slightly slightly on the big side, but I actually think the shape is quite nice and you know there's not a bump and but it is slightly

Brian AtlasI think it's a great nose. But some looks maxer types might be like oh it's a bit whatever. Um, you have quite I strong above average lips. Um,

Brian Atlasgood facial harmony, good facial symmetry. Uh, uh, with the makeup I'm assuming maybe some skin clarity issues perhaps. >> Maybe,

Brian Atlas>> maybe. I'm not sure though. It's a bit hard to tell. Um uh h I actually this is my own preference but

Brian Atlassome people uh I actually find like the chubbier cheeks I think it's actually a plus. Some looks maxers would be like your uh cheeks are a little chubby but I

Brian Atlasactually think it's a positive not not a negative. Um h what else? Uh, good facial thirds.

Brian Atlas>> I have dimples. [snorts] >> Your interpupilary distance is a little bit off. Uh, turn to the side. >> Sorry.

Brian Atlas>> You could have a bit uh [clears throat] slight perhaps a bit. Your lower third, facial third is perhaps a little bit weak.

Brian AtlasUm, your facial thirds are a little bit off, but otherwise, uh, overall pretty strong. The makeup is going to skew this

Brian Atlasa little bit. Chat, if you want to give your rating now, uh, I want to say 6.5, perhaps a seven.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. I mean, you can be honest, but my eyes are not blue, by the way. >> Are what? They're green. >> My eyes are not blue. No, they're not even green. >> Um, well, it's a little hard for me to

Ladatell, but they are what? Blue? Gray? >> I have hetrochromia. Uh, which means that my eyes are different color. One of my eyes is green and my other eye is uh

Brian Atlashazel green. So, it's half brown, half >> Well, you are the distance is a bit far, but your lies are light. Excuse me. >> Light. In any case, >> they're mostly green. So,

Brian Atlasuh, yeah, chat,

Brian AtlasI don't know. They're they're kind chat's a little bit all over the place on this one. Um, but I would say 6.5 or seven, but you are wearing a lot of makeup, so it's hard to fully give an assessment. Some people might say that's

Brian Atlasa bit high, some people might say that's a bit low. Uh, for you, you said 446. Um, I'm actually fine with her rating. I think 444 is I don't know about the six

Brian Atlasthing or whatever. I think 444 is a fair rating. Um, you're not wearing any makeup though, so makeup will change somebody's appraisal

Brian Atlasof uh attractiveness. Oh, I need to give you another negative. Sorry here. I just >> you were thinking on it. Dwelling. [clears throat] >> Yeah, I'd say slight under eye weakness in your under eye area.

Brian Atlas>> I know. That's my like biggest insecurity. Uh for you, you also because I know you have a bit of weakness in your under eye area. Although for your phenotype, I think you actually have

Brian Atlasreally nice uh brown eyes. Uh you have a nice eye area, nice lips, no lip filler, right? Yeah. Strong lips. Um I mean, you

Brian Atlasand me were Do you want the >> You can be brutally honest. I've heard. >> All right. You and me, look, uh you're in better shape than I am, but we both, you know, we got to hit those Empic. We got to hit We got to hit the Weight

Brian AtlasWatchers. I'm going to raw dog my diet though. I'm the [ __ ] Empic. But look, we we got to both lose a little weight. And I think um >> you could definitely improve quite substantially if you thin down in your face a little bit. Probably in the body,

Brian Atlastoo. But um and I say this to somebody, I need to lose weight. I'm a [ __ ] fat ass. Uh so, you know, but uh I think uh

Brian Atlasyou could have see pretty massive gains in aesthetics. Um, but yeah, but I agree with your assessment. I think that's pretty accurate.

Brian Atlas>> Thank you. >> Uh, okay. You You said you were six face and then 88 body, but I'm not going to do body. >> Okay. Uh, let's see here. Lip filler. I

Alisa TresenovThat's just an aesthetic for me. So, I that would downgrade you in my book. >> I just got them done. So, thank you for noticing. >> Yeah. Uh, can you turn your face to the side? Other side.

Brian AtlasOkay. Uh, you have a strong like strong ramis. Good lower third. You can look straight now. >> Fancy words. >> Have you had a nose job? >> No.

Alisa Tresenov>> No job. Okay. >> Cannot forward. No, but I don't want to. [laughter] >> Uh, nice. You are wearing a good amount of eye makeup. I love >> to be fair. I thought the instructions told us to put on makeup.

Brian Atlas>> Well, the instructions say to be makeup ready. So that means don't come to the studio. >> We don't have time to give you >> Oh, I misunderstood. >> Yeah, it says be makeup ready. So that means don't you can't we don't have time

Brian Atlasfor you to put on spend 20 minutes in the bathroom upon arrival putting on makeup. >> All right. I did my makeup in the plains bathroom. >> No. Yeah, we're fine with [laughter] we're fine with women wearing makeup to

Brian Atlasthe podcast. Um, but I don't think there's not specific instructions to to wear makeup, >> but we say be makeup ready in the sense >> don't be spending 20 hours putting on makeup, 20 minutes putting on makeup in the bathroom.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> Uh, let's see. Blue eyes, >> green. >> Green is right. It's a little far, so it's a bit hard to tell. Uh, okay. Uh,

Brian Atlaseye color is good. Uh, nose good. Eyebrows good. Uh you have a bit of uh I

Brian Atlaswould say your facial lower third is a bit weak. So that basically just means like the I don't know how to describe it exactly. You'll just have to Google it after. >> Yeah. I I'm I do cuz you're using these

Brian Atlasterms that I'm like what do you mean that like jawline jaw? >> Yeah. Basically your the lower portion of uh you

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. I I'd agree with that. Yeah. And uh nice smile, I suppose. Um >> No, thank you. >> Uh you're a bit pale.

Brian Atlas>> I pride myself in being very pale. >> I'm I'm going to You gave yourself a six face. I think I'd give you uh five, maybe a five 5.5.

Brian Atlas>> I'll take it. Thank you. >> Average to maybe a bit above average. Facial aesthetics. Uh, I'd say uh you uh let's see. You gave yourself uh five.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Face average. Um h I don't think you're far off, but uh

Brian Atlaswhat's your like background? Are you like German or Swiss or something? Or >> German and Italian? >> And Italian. Uh strong blue eyes. Your eyes are a bit bloodshot though. Uh I don't know if that's >> I know. I think I have something in them.

Brian Atlas>> Can Oh, scoot to the Mary, you need to keep an eye on that. >> I think I have something in it and it really hurts actually. >> Oh, okay. [gasps] >> Uh like so obviously people have different phenotypes and it will like

Brian Atlas>> all all phenotypes can be attractive by the way, just to be clear. Um uh but there are you're going to have to rate differently, you know, based on these sorts of things. But um so I'm not when

Brian AtlasI say like you can have striking dark eyes or striking uh brown eyes for example. It's not just because you have blue eyes but um good blue eyes, no lip filler, right? >> No.

Brian Atlas>> Uh your your upper lip is actually stronger than your lower lip. So typically you want the lower lip to be a little bit bigger than the upper lip. You want pl uh full Is this autistic at this point? I don't even know. Uh you

Brian Atlasyou want >> you want both full upper lip and lower lip. >> Uh so the ratio is a bit off but good.

Brian Atlas>> Good. Uh very Can you turn your face that way? Strong nose. Strong nose. Uh maybe even almost too much on the small side.

Brian Atlas>> Ever so slightly. Ever so slightly. That's better than on it being too much on the big side. Uh, strong nose, strong eyes, strong eyebrows. Um,

Brian Atlasuh, you know, it's uh, [snorts] it's How old are you again? >> 28.

Brian Atlas>> 28. Uh, you've a I actually think you've aged pretty well. Uh, to be honest, >> thank you. >> Uh, I I want to say 5.5, maybe six. So, I think you underrated your facial attractiveness.

Brian Atlas>> All right. >> Um, a little bit. Okay. We got Miss Ten over here. Can I have you just scoot to the table a little bit? All right. We got the most beautiful women at the table. Well, I guess besides accord Well, according to themselves, we got

Brian Atlasthe 10 out of 10 here. Okay. So, uh let's see. You do have uh the I I referenced like the silent film era. You

Brian Atlasdo have like that sort of like way way back Hollywood aesthetic to you. Uh the

Brian Atlasthe sort of uh striking brown eyes. Uh you have a strong strong eyes. Strong brown eyes.

Katie>> Um do you have a slight lazy eye? >> I think so. Yeah. It's something I've had to like try and control before slightly if I like [clears throat] get too tired.

Brian Atlas>> It's slightly that wouldn't have a major. It's very minor though. Very minor. So I don't think Do you want the full-blown No punches. All right. I always try to be somewhat nice, though.

Brian AtlasUm, let's see here. >> Uh, very striking eyes. Very striking eyes. Um, your lower thirds a bit weak. I don't

Brian Atlasknow if you're overlining with your lipstick a little bit. No lip filler, right? No lip filler. Uh, >> slightly above average lips. I want to

Brian Atlassay I would give you like the lips are a bit on above average side. Um, can you turn that way? Uh, a bit of an indent on the chin,

Brian Atlaswhich I think typically for female attractiveness, I think also not the best for male males, but um I think

Brian Atlastypically going to be assessed as worse when seen in women. Uh obviously as somebody who has a big nose, you probably know uh I would say probably in terms of a flaw point out uh the nose,

Brian Atlasright? So you have a >> What's funny is my nose makes a lot of money. >> A lot of money. >> Okay. Yeah. I mean I know the some of the models they like the alien look or whatever. Um the catwalk girls or I'm not saying you look like an alien, but

Brian Atlassometimes the >> I think that is a compliment. >> The the high fashion aesthetic. What What are you doing? >> [laughter] >> uh the high fashion. Uh by the way, it shouldn't be there like for put it on

Brian Atlasanother tab if you can. Okay, >> we shouldn't be showing that. Um so, uh I I would say probably the nose is going to throw off the facial harmony

Brian Atlasof your face. Uh again, I say this as somebody who it it [ __ ] up the facial harmony of my face. I have a big nose. I've got a hump. Uh it's big. It's

Brian Atlasbulbous. Um, so I would say you also have the same uh kind of the some of the same detriment there as it relates to

Brian Atlasthe nose. Um, what else? Your uh I think your lower you have good jaw,

Brian Atlasbut your lower third I think is uh a little bit weak. >> That what does that mean for all of us that are confused? in terms of facial

Brian Atlasproportions. Um, like for example, you it's not exact, but you'd kind of want uh >> it's not exact, but so like facial thirds. So basically from your chin to

Brian Atlasthe bottom of your nose or some people might say the lips and then lips to the uh basically the center eye or low eye and then eye to forehead. So you have

Brian Atlasunequal facial thirds. So I think your bottom uh third basically the area smaller the yeah the area between your bottom lip and your chin is a bit on the

Brian Atlassmall side proportionally. So the proportions are uh slightly weak I would say in that dimension. Uh good eyebrows. Um

Brian Atlasuh so okay uh the rating the rating let's see here uh you gave yourself a 10

Brian Atlasin terms of facial attractiveness. Uh, I think I would give you um h

Brian AtlasI think some people are going to criticize me for this, but I would give you uh it's actually a bit hard. I think I would give you a six or 6.5.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> Probably leaning to 6.5, but some people might say I'm overrating you >> a little bit. >> Okay. Um, so yeah,

Brian Atlas>> thank you so much. >> You're welcome. All right, you uh Okay, what did you give yourself a four? 4 44 across the board. Uh, okay. Well, I'll just come my immediate without like

Brian Atlasgetting into the analysis breakdown. My immediate knee-jerk reaction is um I think you actually have like pretty strong potential. Uh I think you have a

Brian Atlassolid base. I think you maybe underrated yourself a little bit. Although you face the same problem that I have is we both

Brian Atlasneed to uh gain a not gain weight. >> Um I think uh lose weight lose weight uh a little bit. I think it's impacting

Brian Atlasyour facial aesthetics a little bit. Uh, I think you'd actually be uh you might actually if you lo lost a bit of weight, you might actually have the most aesthetic face at the table.

Brian AtlasUh, you have striking striking eyes although you are wearing the Is that just mascara or do you have the extensions?

Brian Atlas>> You are wearing extensions. Okay. Um, let's see here. Uh, can you turn that way? nose slight

Brian Atlasslightly weak nose slightly weak nose you have the lip filler disavow um not becoming of a Christian woman I guess uh just uh do a straight face for me not smiling

Brian Atlas>> I can't now [laughter] >> okay >> I'll try >> um h I think the primary thing for you would

Brian Atlasbe uh I think you could you could ascend If you lost weight, I think you could you could potentially be uh in terms of

Brian Atlasfacial aesthetics, you could be pretty damn good. I think I don't know. Um >> I agree. I think you have a really beautiful face. >> You're welcome. >> I think uh yeah, so me and you, we're

Courtney King / Jamie / Avagoing to hit the gym. We're going to hit Weight Watchers. >> Oh my god. Actually, [laughter] >> I have my searchs of fitness trainer. So, I actually have very like low body

Courtney King / Jamie / Avafat in terms of working out. I'm just I'm extremely solid. Like everything is very solid. >> I normally wouldn't ask this, but are you comfortable standing up? >> Yeah, absolutely. >> All right. We'll do an assessment. >> Can I move the mic really quick?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, that's fine. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Oh, wait. Literally. Yeah, I can [laughter] see it in your arms. >> It's hard for me to do an assessment

Courtney King / Jamie / Avahere. You're wearing all black. You're wearing baggy pants. Um, >> I can pull up my Instagram if needed for my gym pictures. >> Uh, I mean, you

Brian Atlas>> No, but I agree with you. >> Have you done body composition? >> What do you mean by that? >> Or what where they tell you're your body. So, I understand that you're you're athletic and muscular, but I mean, >> no, I agree with you. I do think I need to lose weight, especially my face.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, okay. So, wait, what are we >> I'm not disagreeing with you at all. >> What are we debating on then? >> Well, I'm just saying that I do hit the gym. That was my point. >> Um, >> well, yeah, you could be a a weightlifter as a woman but still be fat.

Brian Atlas>> I'm not saying you're fat, by the way. >> But what I'm saying is is that [clears throat] um just because you go to the gym and strength train as a woman doesn't mean

Brian Atlasthat in terms of maxim like looks maxing yourself, uh, you you have to be a certain body fat percentage. No, >> to maximize body attractiveness and

Brian Atlasfacial attractiveness. >> Yeah, I could definitely lose mass in a lot of places. So, I agree. >> Okay, cool. Um, in terms of rating, what did you give

Brian Atlasyourself? Did you say 444? >> Okay. Well, I kind of have to give you a rating where you at you're at currently. Uh, I I actually think you could pro

Brian Atlasmaybe get to six or seven if you were like maximized uh in terms of like losing some of the uh the weight a little bit. I think you underrated yourself though. You gave yourself a

Brian Atlasfour. I'd honestly probably in terms of facial attractiveness uh I I think five for now. And then if you were to lose weight, you'd probably could get into six or seven, I think.

Brian AtlasOkay. [laughter] >> Okay. Uh, all right. We have the eight here who's returning to the table. I need to blast through this. I'm taking way too long to do all these. Um, okay. The eight. Um, I'm just going to look in

Brian Atlasthe TV. Actually, could you look at the camera over there? Actually, it's better if I see you in person. That's not fair because the camera changes [ __ ] Uh, let's see.

Brian AtlasUm, can you turn that way? Uh, strong nose. Uh, turn back.

Brian AtlasYou have slight negative canthal tilt for your eyes. You have a nice eye color, but the negative canal tilt will overall probably create a negative

Brian Atlasslightly negative overall assessment of the eye area. Uh, nice lips. You have a weak lower third. Um,

Brian Atlasand uh what's going on back there? Uh, you gave yourself a eight. I I think I'd

Brian Atlasgive you uh a six.

Brian AtlasHey, don't don't shoot the messenger here. Okay. Oh. Uh, okay. >> That's like the best rating that he's given to the whole table. So, >> is it? >> No. >> No. What did I get? >> Wait, you gave her a 6.5.

Lada>> I forgot. >> You gave me a seven. Think he gave me >> Oh, yeah. You did get a seven. >> Okay. And then you

SPEAKER_01um I think I'd give you

Brian Atlas[snorts] [laughter] >> uh I think I give you 4.5. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So you overrated yourself a little bit. I think you gave yourself a five. Average. I don't think, you know, just saying you're I think generally I'd say

Brian Atlasyou're average looking. >> Uh but I think 4.5 >> and that's it. Boom. Well, for that segment anyway. >> Wait, you didn't even say anything nice or mean about

Annie (HR)>> Oh, sorry. Um >> like nicer mean harder. >> A [laughter] >> um I just want to move on. I don't want

Brian Atlas>> It's fine. You can >> I've been I already took way too long for this segment. So, um I don't know. You wanted to rape me. Go ahead. I'll You can be brutal. That's fine if you want. I feel some of you will be vindictive though for to get revenge or

Alisa Tresenovwhatever, but >> Oh, no. No. Not vindictive. Um but I do agree with the fact that you just mostly around the face cuz I can't tell just seeing from your sweater. But I'd give you a four.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> With the hopes that you lose a little bit in the cheeks. >> Yeah, the jowls are coming in. Pretty much anything y'all could say, I already know. Like I already know all my >> I was like so that's why it wasn't vindictive. So

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> yeah, I get it. I get it. Yeah. Got to lose some weight. >> Are you insecure about those things or just you just notice them as like fact?

Brian Atlas>> Uh am I insecure? Uh >> about looks like specifically. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Am I insecure?

LadaIt feels more like he's aware of the like I'm justware I [snorts] kind >> I think I'm secure but I acknowledge the flaws. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. I'd say I'm >> real. Just being real. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yep. [laughter] >> Ah, that was fun. I hope I didn't hurt any of anybody's feelings, but >> No.

Brian Atlas>> No. >> Chat, was I Yo, chat, what do you think? Was I Was I generous? Was I kind of spot on? >> Wait, why can't we see the chat? >> Because that would be a really bad idea.

Brian Atlas>> Oh no, >> that would be a bad idea. >> I saw one of them and they called me a mud lover. What does that mean? Honestly, I saw that. >> Uh, yeah. I'm not going to go there, but um it's a bit racial, so I'm not really

Brian Atlasgonna >> Oh my go what they mean. You probably shouldn't read that, though, to be honest. >> But I could like it. I mean,

Alisa Tresenovmud lover is so mean. >> Well, I didn't say at all. >> Your fans are quite opinionated and uh racist. >> How is that? Well, I I mean >> to call somebody a mud lover who's

Brian Atlasdating a black guy, that's racist. >> Objectionable. We're not really going to linger on that topic, >> but uh just because one person in the chat, by the way, like any live chat you go to, people are going to be saying

Brian Atlascertain things and now congratulations, you've just invoked them to say it even if they don't even give a [ __ ] But um I I don't think because one or two or even a handful of people are saying things in

Alisa Tresenovthe chat that that would be like emblematic or of the >> you were saying the chat is racist in general. >> Uh no I didn't say in general but you one can assume that that's what I meant

Alisa Tresenovbut from the comments that made it through is uh they were just quite interesting at times to read. >> I'm not offended by any of them. I hope no one is >> I'm offended by Mudlo.

Brian AtlasLet's let's just I feel like the platforms are probably going to have an issue with that term. So, why don't we just avoid saying it? But >> my bad. >> I would say just don't take >> I didn't put it up. Somebody super

Brian Atlaschatted it. And to be fair to chatters, even if we don't agree with the words they're saying or whatever, um whatever. >> Yeah. >> No, I'm fine. Everyone's fine with their

Brian Atlasopinion. >> Uh let's see. We're moving on to uh let's see here.

Brian AtlasSomebody was saying something about uh oh the vibe. I don't know if I want to

Brian Atlassomething that uh you were saying with that guy who you'd spent like 11 days with in a row, which is crazy. Mhm. >> Uh I mean, but you acknowledge that that

Brian Atlaswas not a really ideal situation. I'm not saying you're crazy. That's just like a crazy scenario. At least in the sense that [sighs] [gasps]

Brian AtlasI would not want to spend like I don't know you [sighs and gasps] I don't know maybe if she's a really great

Katieeven then though it's like >> but not like right off the bat like just met and like >> it's a m it's too much you know but anyway >> no that's the thing we hadn't just met we had known each other we've known each other for like 3 years >> but knowing each other is not like being

Katienext to each other. >> That's very true. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But I mean it was very overwhelming. Yeah. We both realized >> my social battery was just >> Yeah. It's kind of what happened to me. I literally at one point was like

Brian Atlas>> I looked at him and I was like you I need me time. I need you to go over there. Please sit over there. >> Uh Tabitha, we're going to go to some of your notes here really quick. Um just curious, can I say your last name or do you prefer not?

Tabitha Chang>> No, that's fine. >> Okay. I was just curious. Your last name is Chang. Yes. My husband was adopted um >> by Asian parents.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Um Hispanic Asian that >> cuz your husband's white, isn't he? >> Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I was thinking, well, maybe the husband's I looked at your Instagram and your husband's white, so I was like, "Where [laughter] did the chain come from?" >> Yeah. It's really funny. Every time we

Tabitha Changgo somewhere or check into a hotel, everyone's like, "You are not what we were expecting." Like, [laughter] >> so Wow. That's interesting. Your your white husband was adopted by Asian family, >> Asian parents. Well, one, I guess.

Tabitha Chang>> Yeah. >> Hispanic, Asian, whatever. Um, okay. Let's um >> You disagree bowing to your spouse. >> You disagree with that. That's why you're disagreeing.

Tabitha Chang>> I know you've gone a lot into that. It's just to me bowing is more of a cultural thing. Half my family's Thai. Um, you know, every time I meet one of them or meet someone new in that culture, when I

Tabitha Changwas in Thailand, you you bow as respect. To me, it's more >> Yeah. >> cultural than it is to my husband, you know? >> Okay. Um, is anybody here familiar with the bow

Brian Atlassegment? >> No. Um, I saw like a clip of it or something, but what does that even mean? Like bowing? >> Yeah. Maybe I should I'll wait until everybody's like back from the table or whatever to before we play it. So, I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to just put that on pause just momentarily. The bow segment. Let me just here write down bow and then we'll get into it as soon as everybody's returned. Uh here. Does anybody else have a different disagreement that we

Brian Atlascan get into while we're waiting for that bowing? Oh, that was you. No, no, no, no. Uh you disagree with me on marriage. >> Was that correct?

Annie (HR)>> Only because I don't Why don't I kind of know the answer, but explain again. Why are you against marriage for yourself? >> For myself? >> Mhm. >> Uh [clears throat] h yeah, I mean

Brian Atlasprimarily the potential financial consequences of divorce. That would be that's kind of my primary thing. Um >> then just pick the right woman who you will stay with. >> This is such a terrible argument, but

Brian Atlasokay. Yeah, >> this is such a Okay, so of the people who do get married, uh we do know that, uh I believe it's the majority of marriages end in divorce. So, uh >> I think it's 50% of marriages end in divorce.

Brian Atlas>> It's more than that now. It might be >> well there. Look, I'm going to be charitable and I So, okay, first time divorces or first time marriages, the likelihood of divorce is

Brian Atlaslower among them, although it's still strikingly high. So, what ends up kind of skewing, again, I'm going to be fair and charitable. What ends up skewing these divorce statistics is people who've been married 2, three, four

Brian Atlastimes. These people are way like if you marry a second time, you're way more likely to get divorced. Married a third time, way more likely to get divorced. First time marriages have a better success rate. However, I find it still,

Brian AtlasI don't know if it's over 50, it might be 30, 40, who knows. I still don't think that this is an acceptable risk that I'm willing to take. So, if somebody if I was going to go skydiving

Brian Atlasand somebody told me there was even a 3% chance of my parachute not working, there's not a chance in hell I'm going to go skydiving. In this case, as relates to even first-time marriages, I

Brian Atlasthink it's 30% 40%. Maybe somebody in the chat can tell me what the actual number is. It's really high. Uh so you say find a really good woman. Do you think that the people who are getting

Brian Atlasmarried and who do end up getting divorced, do you think going into that marriage they they're thinking this is not the person for me. This is not a person I love. This is not the right

Brian Atlasperson. No. They're probably thinking in that moment this is the person for me. This is the right person I love this person. So we know things change. So, is your thing just not wanting to get

Courtney King / Jamie / Avamarried because you don't want to get divorced or because you don't want to get divorced and have things taken from you from the divorce like money? >> Uh well,

Brian Atlasyeah. So, if you get married that that is uh basically creates a contract, right? Uh so, in these circumstances, yeah, there would be financial risks involved.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> Prenup doesn't matter. But what if you can you can't have a prenup sign of like or written out of like she takes nothing that was yours? That like isn't that possible?

Brian Atlas>> Well, there's a couple things especially I'm in trouble with the kind of dynamic I would be looking for. So, I'll explain a bit about what I'd be looking for in terms of a dynamic. uh I'm doing I I I

Brian Atlasdon't really reveal specifics, but let's just say I'm doing uh very well financially and in the type of relationship dynamic I would want uh I

Brian Atlaswould be desirous of uh well it's I'm not 100% opposed to dating a woman who has a job or career or makes her own money. I just don't care. So like I'll

Brian Atlasdate a girl who works at Chick-fil-A. I'll date a girl who works who doesn't even have a job. Uh her income, her job, her career don't matter to me. I'm prepared to fully financially take care

Brian Atlasof everything. However, if I get married, this would put me in a bit of a pre precarious position. Now, the issue that I have isn't necessarily a man-woman issue. It's a breadwinner issue. So, whoever's the bread winner,

Brian Atlasuh that gives the other person in the relationship massive amounts of leverage in the event of a divorce. So, I don't know the specifics, but my understanding is if you're like the primary bread

Brian Atlaswinner and a divorce is initiated, not even factoring in uh what you might have to pay them. You also the divorce process is quite expensive. So, you have to pay for your

Brian Atlaslawyer and you have to pay for their lawyer. So, it's not just, oh, they're going to your wife wants a divorce, she's going to have to take care of the law. No, you have to pay for her lawyer

Annie (HR)if you're in a situation like mine perhaps. Um, >> what if the woman earns more than you? So then you don't have to worry about that financial. >> If she's a billionaire, you best believe she's getting proposed to. Trust

Brian Atlas[laughter] me, then I'm fine with marriage. Then I'm totally fine with marriage. And then there's definitely no prenup there. However, although a woman who's a billionaire is probably going to be financially savvy enough, uh, of

Courtney King / Jamie / Avacourse, I would never leave a a woman who's a billionaire and I'd never divorce her. >> You said no prenup, but what if she wants you to sign the prenup? Then would you not marry her? >> Hold on. So, hold on.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> I'm going to do what women do. It's going to be a complete rule of Oh, you don't love me? >> This is Hold on. This is This is for life. But what if you what if okay what

Courtney King / Jamie / Avaif you are in your case what if you're the rich man and >> you found the woman and she does everything for you. She cooks for you, cleans for you and >> Mhm.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> you bring her this prenup and you >> Why would I bring her a prenup? I'm not getting married. No, but if let's say you let's say you actually like want to marry this woman and

Courtney King / Jamie / Avayou bring her this prune up and she doesn't throw a fit and she's like, "Okay, I'll sign it." Because she actually loves you that much. Like that rare possibility that happens and she's

Courtney King / Jamie / Avanot like, "Oh my god, you don't love me." Like, do you think that can happen or do you not believe that can happen? >> That she would want me she would that she would want to marry you and sign the

Brian Atlasprenup if you were >> Yeah, sure. I It's logically possible that a woman who would otherwise be interested in me and I would be interested in her, she has a deal breaker, which is marriage. Like I she

Brian Atlasreally wants to get married. Um that's probably not going to work out cuz I'm steadfast and stubborn on this. Uh it is

Brian Atlaspossible that there could be a woman so remarkable, so attractive, so possessing all the things that I care about that I would it is possible I could be willing

Brian Atlasto get married >> if she were to sign a parina. >> No, no, no. I even if if she's all those characteristics,

Brian Atlasum what's going on? >> Oh, okay. Gotcha. Um, it's possible, but uh I just wouldn't I

Brian AtlasI don't see the point of it. She can just defer to me. >> I mean, >> cuz I would date a submissive woman. >> I mean, if she loves you >> and if she's submissive, she's going to defer to me on this.

Brian Atlas>> If she love if she loves you that much, I mean, I do agree with you. She wouldn't need to get married to you to, >> right? >> So, yeah. I mean, >> well, I mean, I just I ultimately just think, um,

Brian Atlasyou could try to frame the leverage both ways. It's like, well, she won't stay with you if you don't get Well, okay, I won't stay with her if we don't get married. Yeah. But in terms of the

Brian Atlaseconomic risk of marriage, um, whoever the bread winner is, uh, and a woman could be the bread winner. So, women can also encounter this. Uh although there's

Brian Atlasa couple differences here. I think uh women feel way more entitled to men's money than the reverse. So even if the woman's like wealthy, to be fair, like there are women who end up paying

Brian Atlasalimony and do this. Men are far less likely to uh go after child support. Men are less likely to go after alimony. Men, to be clear, men do go after these things, but men are much more likely to

Brian Atlasbe like, "We're done. Don't want anything to do with you. I don't feel entitled to anything. You're the bread winner. Whatever. We're done. Wipe your hands clean. Women,

Brian Atlasthey have an entitlement. They feel entitled to his money. Not all women, but they it's more common among women. >> That's true. But >> also,

Brian Atlaseven regardless of what you you think, once you get lawyers involved, and you're going to need lawyers for marriage, for divor uh excuse me, you're going to need uh lawyers for the divorce

Brian Atlasprocess. You could be the most well-intentioned man or woman dating a breadwinner, whatever. You get your lawyer in the picture who has a financial incentive because, you know, based on the settlement of whatever, uh

Brian AtlasI think they can get some, you know, extra portion. Uh, lawyers are very convincing. Lawyers are practiced in the art of influence and persuasion. Even if you're a good-intentioned woman, even if you're a

Brian Atlasgood-intentioned man, is you're a lawyer. And lawyers are convincing. You put a naive woman in front of a [ __ ] high-powered divorce attorney and you

Brian Atlasthink, and she's no longer under the influence of her husband. Now she's under the influence of her divorce attorney. A naive woman, it's her first divorce, is going

Brian Atlasto get completely [ __ ] bulldozed by an attorney. The attorney is like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. You're entitled to this. He needs to give you XYZ." Even the good intention woman who's like

Brian Atlasinclined to be like, "Wipe her hands clean." Nah, >> she's going to get the lawyer is going to be like, "Nah, we're going to get you money. Oh, think about, you know, oh, think about XYZ." She'll be persuaded.

Courtney King / Jamie / Avashe'll be convinced. So, it's it's a difficult situation. >> Not always because if I was in that position, I would not be convinced. I wouldn't be persuaded. >> Okay. I mean, well, you might say that

Brian Atlasand then circumstances even, bro, there's women will will tell their husbands, "I would never go after you for alimony. I would never go after you for child support." She gets pregnant, boom, 18 years child support.

Brian Atlas>> Do you just have trust issues? >> Why would it have anything to do with trust issues? I I don't understand. I actually strongly believe that >> who hurt you. Weak argument. Weak argument. >> No. >> Well, to me it just sounds like you're

Annie (HR)not even totally against marriage. You just need the right circumstances or someone who's financially just equal to you, I guess. >> Uh I suppose. Um but I mean if um

Brian AtlasI well look I here's what I believe. I can be with someone all the things that you can have in marriage. >> Yeah. >> I can have that absent in marriage. I can stay with you forever. We can have

Brian Atlaskids. We can live together. We can have a family. We can love each other. We can care about each other. Um I can do an advanced health care directive. There's

Brian Atlassome marriage confers some benefits, but I don't think those benefits, oh tax purposes, blah blah blah, whatever. Uh health care circumstances. There are

Brian Atlassome circumstances like if you were to die and you know related to your estate and how money flows after you die. But then I'm dead. Who gives? Well, I shouldn't say who gives a [ __ ] Obviously, you want,

Brian Atlas>> you know, people have wills and for a reason. You want your money to go to the right people, whatever. Um, >> but, uh, I think those are really minimal compared to the the risk of what

Katiehappens in divorce. It seemed like you wanted to come in on something. >> Yeah. I was wondering if you had ever thought about Okay. Well, I guess I should proposition this to you. >> Sure. Proposition.

Katie>> I will. I know a couple that is a very very wealthy man um multi multi multi-millionaire and him and his wife actually well they've been together 25 years they have two kids and come to

Katiefind out they're not actually married they have a contract that they renew every year they not they're not legally married they just renew whatever contract and they have different terms that they

Katiediscuss and go over every year and so it's almost like more romantic because they're like forcing to commit and like come together every year and say, "Okay, like do we still

Brian Atlaswant to do this?" Basically, and then they both have an out if they want out. >> Uh, and the guy's the bread winner. The guy's the wealthy one. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Katie>> Yeah. This I mean, I'm assuming the contract is she's not getting nothing, right? I mean, I'm sure she's getting >> No, I mean, she I mean, she had his his kids. Um, he wanted like two kids. That

Katiewas a part of it. And then obviously like they live together. They still live in the same place, but they haven't actually like been together in years except to make their children and that's it. It's very interesting. But you could

Brian Atlasdo something like that, you know, a little contract or whatever. >> That's b it's in essence basically a marriage like the in terms of the legal ramifications. I don't know the details of their whatever they have. >> I I don't know the full details, but

Brian Atlasjust >> I wouldn't have a contract with who who I'm with. No, >> I wouldn't do. No, >> that would only benefit her, wouldn't it? How would it benefit me? >> I don't know, honestly, because I don't know what their typically I don't know

Brian Atlaswhat their terms look like. >> Well, I mean, I'm What I would infer is if she leaves, he pays her money. What other contract would there He's the

Brian Atlasbreadwinner. He's the rich one. If she leaves or he leaves, she gets money in either scenario, I'm assuming. Maybe. >> Yeah, I wouldn't do that. No, >> no, >> no. You don't want to do that. >> What if you really cared about the

Brian Atlasperson and she hasn't been working for years? >> If if if we split and maybe it's my decision, maybe even even if it's her decision,

Brian AtlasI would perhaps voluntarily support her voluntarily >> until she gets on her feet. If >> perhaps >> perhaps >> perhaps if things otherwise uh

Brian Atlash

Brian Atlasif I left her and we had kids and she didn't work, I would volunt I leave her and she's not doing anything wrong. I voluntarily leave her. I can't imagine

Brian Atlaswhy I would, but uh under these circumstances, I would feel comfortable voluntarily helping her out. But as soon as you introduce a contract, oh, she she cheated on me. Now I got to pay her

Brian Atlasalimony. What? >> That's what marriage is. You get married, your wife cheats on you, you got to pay her $10,000 a month. >> Nah, I'm okay with that. I'm not going to get married.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Thank you. >> But I can be with a woman for my entire life. I can have kids with a woman. So, it's just the legal thing. >> Yeah, it's primary It's primarily legal. I just don't see there's no point to it. >> Yeah.

Courtney King / Jamie / Ava>> What's the point? >> Would you like have a wedding but not sign a legal document? So then like you come together and agree for life. >> Yeah. Let's say I I I mean I'm not sure

Brian Atlasif a Christian woman would date me given my current belief. I say I don't believe yet, which means I'm leaving room open for there being the possibility of a de

Brian Atlasdevelopment of belief. Um, if I a Christian woman who was fantastic

Brian Atlasand I liked her, she liked me. Um, and to satisfy something for her, she wanted to get married like in a church and this had no legal ramifications.

Tabitha ChangSure. I don't really like the wedding though. >> Yeah, it's not for everyone. >> It's a waste of money. >> Yeah, we did a really really small one. Great. [laughter] >> Look, if it's small,

Brian Atlas>> I think that's the way to do it. >> If it's small and a mod like modest expenditure, then yeah, sure. but some extravagant wedding and it's like I would think to

Brian Atlasmyself this is one day

Brian Atlaswe can spend that money we can get do something for our kids our kids' future our future travel a car like I'm not going to

Brian Atlasyou know I don't know these people who spend 50,000 100,000 more on a wedding that money can be better spent elsewhere I'd rather put into [ __ ] crypto than spend that [ __ ] [laughter] on a wedding.

Annie (HR)>> Yeah. >> I don't know. >> I don't know. Do you have more thoughts? You're This is your one that you disagreed with. >> I mean, to me, you like it's what I said like you you're down, I guess, for marriage as long as the circumstances

Annie (HR)were right. So, I guess like all right, that's good enough for me. Well, [sighs and gasps] I mean, the hypothetical would be like either she's,

Brian AtlasI don't know, perfect, which doesn't exist, or she's like way wealthier than I am, then you best believe I want >> way wealthier like way wealthier. Not even >> I don't know. She's a billionaire. >> Not even like if she earned equal to you.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, >> what would be equal to you? >> He doesn't want to give. I just I still think that there would be finan even if we earn the same amount of money, I still think that there can be financial

Brian Atlasconsequences because you still get the lawyers involved and then unwinding the divorce process. Um, I don't know. Then you would still fight

Brian Atlasthere would still be stuff to fight about and uh I don't know. It would be it would be even if you make the same amount of money, it would still be expensive to get a divorce. >> So So how much more? Like like don't

Annie (HR)tell me number. Tell me a percentage more. >> I don't know. >> 10% more. >> I just don't see the point though. I don't see the point. But you just said you were down for it if those circumstances were correct. >> Oh yeah, if she's a billionaire. Yeah,

Brian Atlaswe can. >> Billionaire is so over the top. Mackenzie Bezos. What's up? >> Is there no less reasonable number for you? >> She's old, but I'll >> So it's billion dollars. >> Exactly. I'll still get with her. I'm just saying. >> You know, [laughter] she's kind of a

Brian Atlasbabe. >> Yeah, >> a little bit. >> Gil >> can't believe honestly. I'm not going to lie. like the the replacement. I mean, look, who knows the de like just looksswise though.

Brian AtlasI don't know. I don't like the plastic thing, you know? She's a bit plastic. The Do you guys know who I'm talking about? >> The the what? What? Sanchez. What's her name? >> Glorious. >> Oh, Lauren Sanchez. >> Laura Sanchez, I think. Is that her

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