The Most INSANE Show Ever?! FERAL CHAOS PANEL?! 2+24?! She EXTORTS Men?! | Dating Talk #169

Date: 2024-06-12

Duration: 8h 46m

Guests

Brian Atlas

DDesiree Noel >

AAshley Paola >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Kwan Clark(guest)

SPEAKER_05Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_07Alex(guest)

SPEAKER_09Desiree Noel(guest)

SPEAKER_10Jessica(guest)

SPEAKER_12Danielle (D)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Ashley Paola(guest)

SPEAKER_14Emily(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteDesiree explains transactional dating: sets price for male access to her time based on their 'vibe'; example of charging rent (~$2700) for a date/night

“if I know that's what he's coming at me with I set the price for judging on his character where he's at in life his Vibe”

QuoteAlex discloses she is in a committed relationship with a 53-year-old man who has a terminal pancreatic illness; they met when he noticed her walking with a cane at a movie theater

“he has a terminal illness so terminal is it cancer or no it's a pancreas thing so he doesn't have too long to live”

QuoteDesiree admits it's the same energy exchange as prostitution: 'we call it whatever you want... it doesn't matter'

“it's honestly not it's the same type of energy exchange we call it whatever you want I have no taboo about it”

QuoteBrian mocks Terence Howard quotes about Flower of Life and wave conjugations, feeding them to Desiree who partially agrees with the pseudoscience

“he was able to open up the Flower of Life properly and find the real wave conjugations”

ControversyAndrew challenges panelists on their self-ratings: claims none are 8s, compares them to Scarlett Johansson in her prime as benchmark for 8.

“not even one who's an eight”

QuoteDesiree's hostile pre-show DMs read aloud: 'I'm above needing to answer your certain questions, just book me on your fucking show'

“I am above needing to answer your certain questions just book me on your fucking show and let's go”

ControversyAndrew reveals he secretly recorded Desiree backstage saying she wanted 'revenge' on Brian and that Brian 'didn't know who he was fucking with'

“you said behind the scenes that you wanted Revenge that you wanted to get some guys and that Brian didn't know who he was fucking with”

QuoteDesiree discloses children's photos and explicit OnlyFans content are on same Instagram account; defends it as no shame around sexuality

“I don't believe that human sexuality is anything wrong in my book there's nothing wrong with it I celebrate sex”

ControversyAndrew uses logical conditionals to force Ashley to concede men are primary victims of war; Ashley reluctantly agrees.

“it would stand to reason then that men were the primary victims of war is that the argument Brian”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions (name/age/location/occupation)

Each guest introduces themselves. Danielle (D) CEO foot fetish business NJ/NYC; Desiree Noel sex coach SoCal 38; Alex multimedia artist 26 Russian-born; Emily 18 Pahrump NV unemployed; Ashley Paola 29 IE medical sales; Jessica 25 Hawthorne student/mom; Kwan Clark 30 San Diego waitress; Andrew Wilson The Crucible host.

Relationship status round

Each guest shares current relationship status and longest relationship. Desiree explains transactional dating philosophy at length. Alex discusses age-gap relationship with terminally ill 53-year-old partner. Emily is 3 weeks into new relationship. Ashley in talking stage with 43yo man.

Desiree's transactional dating/sex work model

Extended debate over Desiree charging men for her time/company (rent = ~$2700 SoCal). Discussion of whether this constitutes prostitution. Desiree insists it is legitimate business/energy exchange. Panel challenges her on tax implications, ethics, and consistency.

Polyamory vs monogamy debate

Alex and Desiree defend non-monogamous structures. Andrew Wilson argues for monogamy as healthy norm. Extended debate on jealousy as healthy vs. toxic, value of commitment, and what 'going with the flow' means.

Vibration/frequencies/New Age philosophy debate

Desiree explains 'low vibration' men, quantum physics as applied to dating, epigenetics as 'vibrational transfer'. Andrew challenges scientific validity. Brian invokes Terence Howard quotes. Discussion of Anunnaki, gravity as effect vs. force.

Women's laws / society / religion debate

Panel discusses why major societies have historically restricted women's behavior. Ashley gives Biblical perspective (male leadership/God-ordained structure). Andrew uses 'wait till your father gets home' example for male ontological authority.

Prostitution is it good or bad

Andrew poses law of excluded middle: is prostitution good or bad? Desiree says it is good for her personally. Andrew presses: she is 'a lot of hooker'. Panel asked to raise hands if prostitution is good.

Ratings round (looks self-assessment)

Brian asks each guest to rate their looks 1-10. Most guests rate themselves 7-8. Andrew sarcastically claims 11. Desiree rates herself 8 then walks it back to 'solid 3' on Scarlett Johansson scale. Extended debate on objectivity of beauty standards.

Desiree's DMs / pre-show confrontation meta-discussion

Brian reads Desiree's hostile pre-show DMs aloud ('I'm above answering your questions, just book me'). Panel reacts. Desiree explains she was 'on a mission' and didn't know who Brian was. Andrew reveals he recorded Desiree backstage saying she wanted 'revenge' on Brian.

Body count round

Brian asks each guest's body count. Danielle: 7. Desiree: ~50-100 (lost virginity at 13). Alex: 8-10. Emily: 5-10. Kwan: under 10. Andrew: 10-12 intercourse (more if counting oral). Discussion of whether body count matters.

Primary victim of war (men vs women)

Final debate: who is the primary victim of war — men or women? Ashley argues women/children left behind are primary victims due to domino effect. Andrew uses logical conditionals (preference for abandonment over death) to show men have it worse. Ashley eventually concedes men are primary victims under Andrew's logic.

Closing call to action / wrap-up

Brian asks Desiree and Danielle if they'd stop sex work. Desiree says no; Danielle says she'd wait until she has a husband. Final shoutouts, raid to esfandTV, Andrew's channel promotion.

Transcript

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Danielle (D)you a real one or a fake one the real one I'm totally kidding seven I fake one of course no seven I would like to get married with all of my

Danielle (D)10 fingers I would like to be able to count everyone I had sex with all my fingers that's good yeah and I was in a relationship for 13 years so okay what

Desiree Noelabout you well my dad pushed me out of the door at 13 and told me he essentially gave me the talk and told me that's just tell me what the body count

Desiree Noelis can you just answer question I lost my virginity when I was 13 I'm now 38 matter just I'm just simply trying to do the math I'm trying you already said 50

Desiree Noelto 100 you lose your and I have no idea and have two two I lost my Virginia at 13 30 people I lost my at 13 I had sex with a

Desiree Noelfew guys when I was a teenager I got married at I went celibate I got married at 25 hey what was the range give us the

Desiree Noelrange I said possibly 50 to 100 okay what about you no that's it you can there's a period there's something

Alexcalled a period period okay um somewhere between 8 and 10 okay um I rather not say wait hold on I thought you said body

Brian Atlascount doesn't matter it doesn't but like I don't know why everyone has to know my how about this do you want to give a range like well it's at least it's at least one cuz I've had a boyfriend but I mean do you want to give an actual range

Brian Atlaslike it's like 5 to 10 yeah it's around 5 to 10 10 to 20 5 to 10 okay all right that's fair unfortunately I've been sexually or sexual with about 10 to 12

Andrew Wilsonpeople oh okay well now hang on hang on you strike me as the type of person just just saying you strike me as the type of

Brian Atlasperson who knows exactly how many how many well 10 like actual the whole intercourse but then like two where we just counting blow

Kwan ClarkJays oh okay I think fair enough blow JS I count well yeah I guess four I've been in two relationships I

Brian Atlashad one situationship for like eight years that's a long time it's under 10 oh yeah say I think I

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Brian Atlaswere are we rating homeboy no no I'm I'm just there was one last note I wanted to uh any final thoughts from anybody before we wrap the show up yeah I got

Andrew Wilsonsome I'm just kidding thank you well I would like to um extend my thanks to the entire panel including whatever for having The Crucible on and hosting us again very kind to you highly recommend

Andrew WilsonThe Crucible to throw in the last minute chats towards Brian for the rose section and also to the entire panel thank you guys for coming out I know that these debates can be very contentious I hold

Danielle (D)no ill will whatsoever same right back I it was a pleasure had a great time thank you to everyone here I love you as much as I

TTS Readerlove myself married 32 years donated $69 another relationship coach who doesn't know crap about how to maintain a long-term relationship or that men

Desiree Noeldon't marry [ __ ] I am my wife's third body how many failed relationships have you had oh yeah I think that's to you a failed Rel well I really to be honest

TTS Readerwith you I've never been one to have boyfriend crippling depression donated $69 Blondie seems to be the type of person who will be left to rot in a nursing home wondering why her kids hate

TTS Readerher after they abandon her for grooming and causing them a life of depression and misery that one okay anyways think about the Bears the Bears

Brian AtlasI learned the rules of this game I got it okay so I got a message via Instagram for the guy who I wouldn't TR the TDS for uh I think this is him maybe it could be imposer

Brian Atlasuh uh wait was somebody gonna carpool with you I'm a little confused carp I don't know somebody sent me a message I don't know

Brian Atlasuh I drove any he says can you ask Blondie why she is so cool with oh my God hold on let me make sure I read this first directly I like that I'm Blondie though at least we know I mean cuz I was always

Desiree Noelwondering is it you is it me you're red I think you're red I'm Blondie I have a name I was red but or D some people knew your name uh Daniel

Brian Atlasjust bring uh he okay why are you so cool with embarrassing your children in the

Desiree Noelfuture my kids are actually not embarrassed by it because we have a very only stuff I guess do you do you worry about the only fans embarrassing your children no because they they they in a sense at their age category they know in

Desiree Noela sense what I do in an age appropriate way so for example my son's 11 and he understands I'm a model and it's sexy stuff that would not be appropriate for him to see or be in the house you know he gets it he's he's out there

Desiree Noelthese kids are seeing stuff whatever what about when he's uh when what about when he's 17 that's fine because I can be able to have I don't have this taboo with the sex you guys it's just part of

Desiree Noellife in our household you don't think that they'll be ashamed no they they don't have shame attached their sexuality I haven't raised them that way you guys they haven't been raised what what if hang on what if

Backgroundyou're what if I don't raid live by the social of this picture of you we have our own

Desiree Noelculture and in our family we have a different culture that works for us well but here let me let me repeat the question are the smartest [ __ ] kids

Andrew Wilsonyou will ever meet in your life I'll tell you that because I've never bullshitted them done just because you tell your kid something list he's 17 years old he comes to you and he's like Mom look at this picture of you with uh

Andrew Wilsonyou know hang let me finish let me finish let me finish he says look at this picture of you with murt all over your face what the [ __ ] kids are bullying me Mom you

Desiree Noelhave a picture of M all over my son will not be getting bullied by the [ __ ] kids at school okay you got to meet the kid and you'll understand I mean a kid

Desiree Noelalready not alive because guys you're thinking that my kids are typical kids I ra them these are [ __ ]

Desiree NoelSavages they cuss they put people yes they they they will come home and say guess what that [ __ ] [ __ ] did

Ashley PaolaMom and you know what I'm like that was a [ __ ] [ __ ] move I'm going to pray for your kids because that is really sad pray for them because they are empowered they have a voice every time somebody

Desiree Noelhas been inappropriate with them they either put them in their place themselves they telling them they tell me and we handle [ __ ] you don't think that's how they're going to start talking to everybody they come across I I have guided them and taught them how

Ashley Paolato well the way the way you talk to Brian is how your kids are going to talk to people too is the way that they're going to talk to other people we met that in a bad just no different than

Desiree NoelBrian popped off for a second and said something inapproiate 11 years old and guess what they are they need to learn how to how to manage their language well how are you going not

Desiree Noeleven language we are not allowed to dises respect people but we [ __ ] [ __ ] is not disrespecting but she's not saying it to the person's face she's coming home she being fake how do you know that

Madisonthough she's you don't know that trust me you don't know how do I not know do you think if my daughter wasn't how do you know because I'm not getting called by the school I would be getting called by the school you don't get called by the school doesn't mean something

Desiree Noelhappens in private so if my daughter says a cuss word to somebody in private that's something I need to worry about if your daughter if your daugh i c my whole life your daughter if your daughter at 18

Desiree Noelyears no 16 years old is starting to put stuff on Instagram 2024 and makes over it's okay for your child to be a where we're at I'm a child

Desiree Noelabuser cuz I let my kids do you hear you're not a child for that you're a child weirdest [ __ ] to me do you understand that language is different cross may not the language but

Brian Atlaswhat about everything else can you I don't live in your culture I don't live in your world cure you the volume please you low the volume

Desiree Noelmy ear ignorant to think that it's okay for your children to be masturbating to be doing this and this do you know in Germany there is a full

Desiree Noelnude I don't feel bad for those want you to open up your mind to what you're doing to your Christian homes get the

Desiree Noelnewspaper with a nude model on the front page the kids don't give a [ __ ] if United States is too B beautiful

Alexwoman she's naked whoopy dooo let's go take a [ __ ] nobody cares chist what is that why yell when you can just have a civil discussion do

Ashley Paolayou know the way these when the chats just I don't feel bad for them anymore because you you need to like realize what's going on this is not okay for your children if there's no children involved all right do what you got to do like we're all

Ashley Paolabroken in different ways you guys are are involved like that is disgusting just as bad as the kids or the adults that are chopping off the

Ashley Paolagenilia of these kids my passion it's my grooming them to be sexual wait okay they're going to be God groomed them to be sexual and made them seual

TTS Readerbeing at what point would it be appropriate for a person shut up for apology when you apologize for yelling shut the f up to

TTS Readerthe nip slip girl I did apologize to her I think it wasn't record no apologies and Contin be 304 I gave I apologize but it wasn't on camera I apologize before we went live again

TTS Readerafter we had to restart the stream you yeah paincakes donated $69 sending this as a support comment to Brian and Andrew also those poor

Alexchildren for real dude that's really what gets me worked up it's just they're innocent children that are being guys let's not let's not I'm sorry we should not bring we should not bring children into the dating podcast isn't that what

TTS Readerit's about it was on her instagam I don't think we're going to change her mind for uncore theore patriarchy donated $69 to the what do you tell the class

Desiree Noelwhen it's career day at school oh yeah bring dild to the damn class what does the hooker what do you tell the class when it's career day it's School you bring your laptop sex it's okay I'm

Desiree Noelgoing to have I can I already see you that's what you're

TTS ReaderI'm a selfhelp author I just anth $69 I'm taking back my retraction about the joke CPS is on its way Blondie any home we place your children in will be

Desiree Noelbetter than the home you are raising them in well good luck with your little snowflakes living out here in the real [ __ ] world guys hate to break it to you it's a cold world out

TTS Readerthere you're creating a bunch of children don't tell you what's really going on in their lives that's what you're doing if your kids spoke up like that to people I know they get a bat to the back

Desiree Noelof the head you're teaching them to be shitty people Abdul and you're teaching them that it's okay to get beat yeah get the Rocks get the Rocks okay get beat why would who said

Desiree Noelthat he just I have heard people talk about belt beating a child smacking them on the back of the head and all these sort of physical things calling it discipline and blah blah blah

Backgroundit's physical abuse call it whatever the [ __ ] you want yeah cool depends on where you live wa what's wrong with taking a belt to a kid whoa Andrew what's wrong with letting a kid she like yeah

Brian Atlasnothing this is what happens when you belt a kid by the way so if you want to Belt a kid they turn into me stop stop stop stop stop guys you guys are way too loud stop lower the volume guys hold on

Brian Atlassh shut up guys shut up that's to all of you not directed in any dire so that miates the shut up uh if it's General shut up it's m it's to the whole panel okay we got to lower the volume if we

Brian Atlasare going to talk a little bit here Andrew was saying in a video game it's okay to do that in a video he a video game only one of those you know disavow

Andrew Wilsonby the way I disavow you know one of those really thick dad leather belts that's the only appropriate belt to be Andrew I'm trying to I'm

Danielle (D)trying to for you Isen the consequences and discipline people that you guys I really like you I like what you have to

Alexsay off the rails I've been bitten I've been Bel there's abuse I said it earlier if

Brian Atlasmy husband was abusing my discipline abuse is way different that [ __ ] Nick that [ __ ] oh he has the it was in I got the [ __ ] G shut the

Madison[ __ ] shut the [ __ ] up [ __ ] up godamn it shut everybody knows okay guys like actually like just listen listen up

Brian AtlasBros God damn y'all are y'all are late we out here we hung you didn't bring us zip zip it zip it good okay y'all feral

Brian Atlasas [ __ ] this is the most [ __ ] feral I this is one of the most feral podcasts I've had bro we got this is this is the [ __ ] I'm going to call this the rabies

Desiree Noelepisode zombie apocalypse foaming at the [ __ ] mouth foaming at the [ __ ] mouth some Z zero Ground

Desiree NoelZero we're down the patriarchy [ __ ] I'm just kidding I got to play into it you guys I'm the villain now I just got to I got to play have to play the vill are the

Brian Atlasvillain I'm I'm going to reup I'm going to uh wait stop stop stop I'm going to reup I'm going to re reup this

Desiree Noelso are you coming back on the show um with you to speak to you sure what's the structure going to be the same [ __ ] we just talk about whatever not as toxic though is Andrew

Desiree Noelgoing to be here maybe I only if Andrew's here there's just not that many people who can [ __ ] fact check me and I need that [ __ ] I really do you guys everybody was fact cheing you the I need the fact but but you have to understand

Desiree NoelAndrew you know I'm trying to be respectful they are ignorant of a lot of they are ignorant of a lot of things in culture are oh I'm talking about cross culturally cross culturally and all that

Andrew Wilsonbut I believe you at least have an awareness of real [ __ ] something special and you'll probably go to bed at night and rethink over a couple [ __ ]

Desiree Noelthings as long as Brian will have me back I can already tell that I don't like you oh who said that oh boy all right I like Brian he sets the boundaries I like

TTS ReaderAndrew calls people out on their [ __ ] it's good an UND donated $69 okay this isn't a parent taking a b to a kid you abysmal T your kids will

TTS Readergrow up to speak to people who don't have to take their hook a mouth [ __ ] plenty of people don't tolerate that [ __ ] grow up on the body count thing Anan thank for the message someone said

Brian Atlaslike well you know these women uh they're going to disappoint their man if they don't have experience so there's a couple compon here first off if you're a guy and you have more sexual experience

Brian Atlasthan the woman women tend to look towards men to lead them in various ways in the relationship in the bedroom whatever it is so uh as a guy you can take a woman

Brian Atlaswho has little or even no sexual experience and you can have fantastic sex with her I don't as long as she's comfortable with her body and all that other way around okay but the point I'm trying to

Brian Atlasmake is I don't think we should be cuz I've had women who've come on the show and they were perhaps a little naive and they said well don't H and this is like I think something women will tell other

Brian Atlaswomen in an effort to also get their friends and peers to make the same mistakes they did by being promiscuous but we I've had girls come on the show and say uh you know not like coping

Brian Atlasbecause they have a high body count but like they're more on the naive end of it where they're like but I thought wait don't guys prefer like girls who are like really sexually experienced and can rock their world and are really good and

Brian Atlasbad and I just want to do like a call that stop I want to do just a call to action if there are any women who are feeling pressured by other women or

Brian Atlasother men to uh be promiscuous or to have casual sex so that in this warped worldview so that you can become better in bed because they're telling you that

Brian Atlasthat's what guys want I can guarantee you that the guy that actually likes you he's going that absolutely disregard your uh lack of experience in the bedroom if he really cares about you

Brian Atlashe's going to be he's going to take his time he's going to be gentle he's going to be patient and don't like if uh you're getting pressured to just like sleep around so you can get experienced

Brian Atlasdon't guys like that don't guys like no uh if a guy really likes you it if you don't give the best [ __ ] if you you

Brian Atlasneed him to show you how to you know do a certain position uh like what why why are you [ __ ] laughing at me what the [ __ ] you're going like so hard into detail about

Madisonthis no I'm just he needs to put you on the side and lift up your leg it's like dam look uh first off I think a lot of arrive at the

Brian Atlaspoint a lot of guys will actually perhaps enjoy that component like perhaps if you're less experienced and then a guy who's actually worth his salt who's going to be a partner to you who's going to uh this is going to sound

Brian Atlas[ __ ] corny who's going to cherish you who's going to love you whatever it's not going to [ __ ] matter so don't get pressured into [ __ ] being a [ __ ] strumpet yeah let's St for this [ __ ]

Brian Atlasfake news [ __ ] oh you got to be sexually experienced nah man you know like oh anyways what yeah no go land the plane

Ashley Paolaland the [ __ ] experience and they're not what does it gross you does it gross knowing that someone has a high body count it makes you not want to tou them there's a lot of guys that don't know

Desiree Noelwhat they're doing at all sex with tons of people and apparent I feel like low value men don't care the high value men nobody's correct do you guys know what an a spot is actually I think it's the opposite for any know what an a spot is

Brian Atlaskind of import for for me at least for me I mean someone who's had sexual I I've had sex at least I've had sex one

Brian Atlastime uh like I know what I'm doing in the bedroom like I can take a girl who's never had sex can I have one of her numbers and ask her if you really knew what you were doing or is she faking oo

Brian Atlasguys would be Sur I'm not going to put your [ __ ] crazy ass in contact with the [ __ ] ex of mine that's ridiculous ain't no [ __ ] way you're talking to it was just a rhetorical

Brian Atlasquestion I was just I was making what what I was trying to say before you interrupted me was is that if you're a guy you have any degree of sexual experience if you know what you're doing you know how to lead you can like teach

Brian Atlasa girl and it's not going to be a turnoff or anything you can show her what you like you can have good sex with a girl who's never had sex ever but who were the girls that you practiced on

Desiree Noeldoesn't matter I don't mean somebody has to be the girls you practice on what's your point I my point is maybe a girl like me is the girl you practice on and

Desiree Noelyou feel safe with so we need we need people like you maybe that is a Ministry yeah maybe that taking one for

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Desiree Noelwell now hang on in the podcast I'm in control oh Lord and Lord I would still like to suck

Desiree NoelBrian's dick can I say that he's not I'm tell you not going to let us moves a lot of things over you know it's no different than when the guys get in a fight you know they just go beat the

Desiree Noel[ __ ] out of each other and then it's done it's done but he doesn't like you well I understand but I'm just saying if he found a room in his heart to be like well maybe we can be friends is a how

Brian Atlasabout go get coffee like just have a conversation and if she's offering I mean your voice is like nails on a [ __ ] chalkboard lighter drop that was a comma it just makes the blow job

Brian Atlasbetter it's a I'm pretend like you didn't just make my dick go soft God now like here's the thing like a lot of people think that guys like they'll hit it once but like for me I'm I never want

Brian Atlasto sleep with a girl once once so like if I sleep with a girl I've already made a decision that I want there to be continuity I want to continue seeing her

Danielle (D)shut the [ __ ] God damn throw this chill out just put it okay I'm to just throw it after BR you're just disruptive as

Danielle (D)[ __ ] stand there all right thank you was a good talk oh you're leaving yeah she's I did well well can you at least say goodbye

Andrew Wilsonto me I I felt like I felt like we had this connection can we at least can you yeah there we go thank you I said that you were a great guy hang on you got to talk to the mic or I can't hear her in

Danielle (D)my earpiece I enjoyed talking to you I thought you were a great guy you had a great personality he's getting really annoyed that I'm talking to yeah you interrupted me I was in the middle of talking you're like can you you already

Andrew Wilsontold me to shut up you already told me stop like you okay well you're here you might as well just stay for the rest of the show yeah yeah look look hang on hang on hang on hang on just hear me out hear me out I thought that you had an

Andrew Wilsoninteresting personality as well part of part of the show hang on part of the show is the combative hang on hang on part of the show is the combative nature um I'm not I'm not upset with you in honesty and neither is

Danielle (D)Brian we're just we're just joshing yeah we're just joshing it was like a friendly shut the [ __ ] up when you already apologize for saying like was a friendly shut the [ __ ] up shut the [ __ ] up shut the [ __ ] up and then you say but

Desiree Noelhe did but he did Apologize like you know it's kind of when you call never mind I think she's feeling like the sories are empty like what I did and

Desiree NoelI'm tired and like I think she's feeling like the sories are empty like everybody was feeling like my sories were empty okay that's all that's cool wait I did

Brian Atlasget a message uh blonde said she lost her virginity at 13 so why did she say she bled and was unprepared on her wedding day I was thinking that too because so I did not have good first

Desiree Noelsexual experiences and so then I went celibate for years and years and years before I actually got married so I was very nervous about sex I had a lot of Shame a lot of trauma I didn't know what I was doing we had never had sex before

Brian Atlasit was the typical whole Christian situation it's not the typical Christian situation I had find hang on you still weren't a virgin though why did you bleed I that's the question I know maybe the dude had a giant some college with a

Desiree Noelgirl who had a boyfriend I didn't know what I was doing I didn't know what I was how does that lead to Bloodshed fantastic I mean do you want to me to

Desiree Noelmake you a video and send it to you I mean there's there stuff going on there's just whatever I don't know it's going to be I had a five some in

Danielle (D)college who had a boyfriend for 3 years in high school and then when she did it it was like a Mur I don't know what

Brian Atlasokay off the rails hold on wait but uh just okay question you don't uh what was your body count at before you got

Ashley Paolamarried 10 20 no I maybe wa just stay there maybe leave it on the table just relax really I wasn't experience at all but when we were talking about the body

Ashley Paolacounts you started off by saying well my dad kicked me out at 13 I lost my 13 I was trying to calculate about how many you have a nice watch it's fake apparently is it fake

Danielle (D)somebody also messaged me saying that you have a fake Rolex I could be wrong is it fake is it a knockoff no this is literally M that you would the things

Danielle (D)that you would come onto a podcast that is this big you wouldn't wear a fake Rolex that doesn't it's a real Rolex it's a real Rolex these are real Christian Dior sweatpants like she's a

BackgroundCEO well people are really in the

Danielle (D)damn bro you're did you anything know what a Rolex looked like I have no idea huh you read anything I sent you you would know the number of celebrities that come in this number of

Danielle (D)Nas that I've signed Like Rappers singers directors prod you didn't sign an NDA for of the guys um Quint Tarantino and um what's his name what

Danielle (D)what you didn't sign Quint Tarantino Quinton Tarantino slide into the DMS or was this in person he slide into the DMS oh wait no Quinton does have a

Danielle (D)foot for he that's why he didn't have it Howard Stern didn't make us doing either he was going to move to nut New Jersey that's where my parents wait so of the guys who you didn't sign an NDA for who

Brian Atlasare the ones who you are you saying you were you like hooked up with them or no you hung out with it I'm confus Quinton Tarantino is a custom customer of your foot fetish business not my foot

Danielle (D)fetish business I worked for the foot pad that was owned by Jason then I worked for the foot spot and then I just open up my own I signed multiple ndas of clients and things like that so I'm

Danielle (D)telling you that I met multiple celebrities that have sucked my toes and things like that has Quinton Tarantino sucked your toes oh my what is I see your toes wait wait hang on has he

Andrew Wilsonsucked your toes I wouldn't have roll it up if he didn't Howard Stern is one of them too in Howard Stern has sucked your toes ain't no way I know wait I mean honestly I I

Andrew Wilsonjust want to be I just I just want to know has Quinton Tarantino taken your foot and put it in his

Danielle (D)mouth y e s c oh uh I don't what other languages

Desiree Noeldo I need to say it e like spish y es these are her customers who have not signed an NDA so she can say it

Desiree Noelwithout getting in trouble that's what that means and all those other people she mentioned she just can't confirm nor deny did they well did Quinton Tarantino

Danielle (D)wash his feet first I don't suck his to did you wash your feet what yes they or the some guys request it depends what

Danielle (D)they request if they request stinky smelly um dirty dirty is like like they want you to walk around the sides of the room and they want you to have like spider webs or

Danielle (D)whatever like is all on the ground it's called [ __ ] disgusting called if you ask me anything about the foot she got web why but I well people have things

Danielle (D)that they just have to deal with and get it out with that's why sex work should totally Beal what what do you do for what are the crazy St that logic we can't talk about it but then you know

Danielle (D)crazy stor I just want to say I go to the movie theater like oh my God people Nick is a virgin and this is very disturbing for him to listen to the

Danielle (D)whole Wild World out I would be happy but they would still dress up to oh jeez okay be polite guys the TT if you want to get your last minut of TTS is and

TTS Readersorry guys I'll trigger the ones that we uh and then we're rapping $69 if the blonde had a belt in her life maybe she wouldn't be such a shitty

TTS Readerparent do you aren't a villain you're an awful person and everyone there is clowning you right now you shouldn't come back no we'll have her back I don't think she's are you ready to be put

TTS Readerthrough the Cru but they'll definitely have her back into the mic why wouldn't we have you back to donated

TTS Reader$69 Blondie is seriously Riri by the way Brian I'm I am 24 a virgin submissive give amazing massages but I am

TTS Readerunfortunately blonde 5' 7 in and I live in Florida L long distance though uh I mean what's the is it like

TTS Readeran any AUD that's what I'd want to know paladins donated $69 5 minutes before the podcast ends and we just now find out cutie sucked

TTS Readerher toes this would have been a really interesting if have been all over blond all night

Brian Atlasexactly know it was a bit rough tonight look here's the thing with your notes or whatever there's a lot of notes I know you got a lot of stop sh hey guys

Brian Atlasstop stop one at a time okay so you we have to wrap up the show here soon uh we had a lot of notes for you we weren't able to really get through much if you're down to come back we'd be happy to get you on and actually get through

Andrew Wilsonthe not the pre-show notes that you provided I know you had more too I will give you formal pre-show notes next time if you no I mean you already you gave some just we didn't I mean but but hang on you got to promise next time you come

Andrew Wilsonback you can't be a gri a worm tongue so you can't be whispering to the chick next to you and be like promise Whispering don't do this don't do you can't you can't be the grime of I

Desiree Noelpromise I promise now here's I wasn't prepared true test though the true test is going to be if you're just going to be talking [ __ ] on social media for the next

Desiree Noel[ __ ] 3 weeks I know and I know that you have trauma around that but I can assure you don't really like do that to you he he shared it did and that's you can talk [ __ ] this way on social media I have no

Desiree Noeltrauma I am the type that will talk [ __ ] to your face I will talk [ __ ] to your face but you posted that is only because I stories you post 30 stories a day it's

Brian Atlasonly because I can't do live because I got I will I would I will be you will have my my reverence and respect if you

Brian Atlasactually go on and start praising me on your Instagram if you praise me in the coming days and weeks I in of talking massive of course I'll praise you that

Desiree Noelmisogynistic podast I don't think that of you I don't think that maybe a little inexperienced in life but that's not your fault with his what she said you're inexperienced in life but that's not your fault

Desiree NoelI mean you haven't become friends with me I'll tell you about the dark side all right so I want to try this I want to try this thing where I go through just real quick before we wrap it up um based

Andrew Wilsonor not based from Andrew's notes so K based right we got K that's the pole says K is based and then moving over we have a gal in the center kind of based

Andrew Wilsonhave kind of based then to the 18-year-old nobody's sure cuz we didn't get it to to hear enough and then next to you not based next to you not based

Andrew Wilsonnext to you I'm sorry to say this but not based so that's that's what we've got so far no idea words what is based like

Brian Atlasawesome understands the world is cool the new lingo is that the kids lingo these days on I'm going to do rapid fire okay if you guys want get your last minute TTS is in I'm going to do rapid fire three questions then then we're

Brian Atlasgoing to wrap the show we'll do a twitch raid we will do a raid to Andrew on YouTube Nick really quick pull up twitch guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime

Brian Atlassub uh guys it's been 27 minutes since a prime came in North Korean God dropped a prime 27 minutes ago I think it's bugged boys I think something's wrong with our

Brian Atlastwitch you know the the stream cut out we had internet issues we had to restart the stream was my fault not don't worry about it it's fine uh I think that our primes are broken so

Brian Atlasif somebody can do a little you know do a little test on the primes the Viking Jedi thank for the prime Scot thank for the prime Marco thank you for the prime wolf Jakey 96 thank you for the prime drop a follow though drop a follow guys appreciate if you're watching on YouTube

Brian Atlasby the way Madison's going to start streaming Madison will be starting a stream on there we're going to be doing IR IRL streams these are going to be twitch exclusive uh we're building up an audience on Twitch and uh yeah guys and

Brian Atlasthere's no ads on Twitch at least on our for the month of June okay cool thank you guys thank you thank you okay real

Brian Atlasquick questions so I we're not going to debate it I just I'm doing stats on this

Brian Atlasuh would you rather okay would you rather come across a random man or random bear in the woods we're not going to debate it I just want your answers answer would you rather come across a random man or random bear in the woods

Kwan Clarkrandom man random bear bear bear you into the mic please man sorry bear oh man man man

Brian Atlasokay you you three said bear bear bear bear okay uh really quick just short I won't debate it just

Alexwhy because animals don't lie and men do but they kill you okay what about you I really really love bears and I don't really like men but you're with never

Emilymind okay um yeah what about you I mean yeah the bear could kill me but also the man so like but the man can yeah I just right they could

Brian Atlasthey could that say they could murder you they could torture whatever okay so I do want to ask on that by the way the bay side of the table said man I just want to point that out true so the

Brian Atlasquestion here is so given this sort of fear that you guys have of men to the point that you'd rather be in a forest come across a random bear in the woods what percentage of men do you think

Brian Atlasthink would opt to victimize you in this situation so if we're plucking a random man out of the population what what percentage starting with you well he's

Brian Atlasin the woods so that's not very random okay hold on so here's the scenario it's randomly plucking you so it's not like why is he in the woods doesn't matter the hypothetical it's a random man you

Desiree Noelboth get plucked dropped in the woods I'm going to go with 75% chance it's not going to go well for me judging by the sexual assault statistics for women 75%

Brian Atlasof us by the time we get to College have been assaulted statistic um hold on I'll repeat the question just one more time just a so what percentage of men do you think in the circumstances would choose

Brian Atlasto victimize you 75% okay I would say 50% yeah I was going to say 50 as well okay so the population of men in the United States I believe is

Brian Atlas160 million 50% of that is 80 million you you'd think that 80 million men in the United States would murder you or sa

Alexyou oh yeah come on I only think one in in the woods one onone I'm not talking about all of them together it's just a 50/50% chance still a big number lot

Alexit's a 5050 chance just like it is true yeah and with a bear going to do something or he's not yeah it's literally it it's he's either going to it's about the same but I would rather get mauled by a bear at this point I'm

Alexover that one of these two is going to kill one of you right now that's literally what you're saying that's literally what you're saying um again we are talking about the situation where two people are again two people are randomly are in the woods just two

Kwan Clarkrandom people who don't know each other we're talking about population of men like and you're saying exactly half of them will kill you well list to the logic he's either going to attack or

Andrew Wilsonhe's not there's no logic at all guys we we have to move it on it's 5 in the morning over here that was my

Brian Atlaspoint yeah near I say less 10% I I just the the numbers I think are astounding

Brian Atlasum I I think it's absolutely astounding the the numbers we get but

Brian Atlasum I I so I I so want to I so want to argue just go for baseden to argue it okay that's my advice okay I think

Alexperhaps I misunderstood the question are you specifically saying how many men overall I think have the potential to do that percentage you're literally saying half would do that to

Alexyou no specifically in that situation there's a 50/50 chance that sit specifically but that was exactly the question yeah that's what she said yeah

Ashley Paolabut but that but that is specifically in that exact situation one on one yeah either goes left or right yeah but that person is coming from a pool of men so

Alexwhat's the possibility of that man doing that I would say out of the pool of men that this particular person would be the person to do something bad I would say

Alexabout 30% that's crazy that's a lot of people I because I have gone through a lot of stuff I have too but that can't we can't say that well I personally

Ashley Paolacan't say I would say like less than 10% and that's like like more on the 5% side Le I'm not saying 50 anymore even be 5%

Andrew Wilsonit's it's if you if you guys think about what it is scalably do you understand what it would look like if there was a100 million in $1 bills on that table

Andrew Wilsonwhat that would look like it's you you can't actually Envision it because it's so much you can't really Envision it you're saying that out

Andrew Wilsonof50 million men that you think that 30% of them if they if they to be in a forest with you alone

Desiree Noelwhy at least how many men are lying to us on dates and saying that they want to get married and have kids and they don't whatever because Liars are liars you can't you you also lie so in that same logic you can also are going to be that

Desiree Noelperson that whatever if you want to say that but I'm saying that men maliciously lie in order to get a certain agend you got fake titties bro you maliciously lied to toito you're lying about your

Desiree Noeltitties for the most part men are coming from me and taking my Sexual Energy you could say whatever you want maybe I mism marketed and they thought I was this they've come to find out I'm not

Brian AtlasI'll move it on I'll move it on but just know that me and Andrew would absolutely smoke you guys on this if we had the time okay just no offense but we would you know we would rebuke and rebut and

Alexthere we would we would own you with facts and logic and we and we could give you personal experience personal experience wom don't speak about the stuff that Happ always TR facts logic and reason

Desiree Noelthat's stupid because it's realistic well when your daughters get abused because you guys were [ __ ] ignorant I mean you're the one showing them sexual things like it's no real life so they're prepared I no

Brian Atlasreal life cuz I'm living it right now this is real silence in the courtroom okay jeez what what did you have an English accent yeah I did hit the gavel

Alexjust do it just do okay hold on uh two two more two three more question okay uh who's physically stronger men or women men men men into the mic guys men okay just had

Brian Atlasto check I had to double check okay uh who's the primary victim of war men or women primary victim of War yes who's the primary victim of war men

Brian Atlaseverybody I mean stra your mic please ma men women men wait women you don't know everybody I said um I said men oh

Ashley Paolayou said men so women everybody yeah just curious why women because men are the ones that so if men are going to war and then the women's are back home

Ashley Paolaby themselves they're going to be more vulnerable without a male figure I believe so um and if unless just say in a in a world where most men got annihilated and War in a different country and now this country is just

Brian Atlasmajority women we are going to be more vulnerable naturally so uh but wouldn't okay let me ask you a question certainly perhaps it would be catastrophic to that country if all the men were wiped out

Brian Atlasthe women would be more vulnerable uh but wouldn't some of the women Thrive I'm sure yeah of course there's going to be some th so if some women are thriving

Ashley Paolasome women have an average and then some women are suffering but all the men are dead well I could say the same I could say the same thing it's like well some men are going to die what if what if

Andrew Wilsonwell you just the the example you gave is all the men died okay so they'd be that's true hang on you're right that's true you could give cter example the same exact way but that would still make brian's Point wait and it depends on if you

Brian Atlasthink that death is the worst case scenario I think just being alive and suffering okay well I do have to ask this question then uh it is a bit heavy but so would you and I'll open into the

Brian Atlaswhole panel starting with you would you rather be essayed once or killed

Desiree Noelyeah that's already happened to me been there I at this we don't need personal anecdotes just answer the question at this point just kill me now if it happens again I'm done okay but I thought you can have no emotional

Emilyconnection with them I'm just done with getting abused be honest go ahead essay essay essay essay essay I'd rather

Andrew WilsonAndrew would you rather I'd rather be I can if it was a if it was by a man then I would choose by woman

Desiree Noelokay here you go I concur I concur I'm going to take that Andrew thing why does it why does it affect you so much if sex isn't really like that

Desiree Noelit's just sex like I'm curious that's an assault against my and I'm over it at this point I would like to die and leave my legacy that I've written books and sometimes you got to die to get a point across do what you got to do that

Brian Atlasdoesn't even make any sense but anyways just for the sake of moving things on okay so uh War everybody into the mic please yeah war is horrible on the whole

Brian Atlassociety everyone so okay but the question is I should have just kind of pushed on this initially when ask the question the question is who is the primary victim of war men or women it does the question does not give you an

Desiree Noeloption of saying everyone so if you had to choose one which do you choose you know it's the men because of the traumas that they are stuck with after all that even if they live wait so going to you World War I who's the primary victim of

Ashley PaolaWorld War I for you um how do we that works I guess I would say you said woman I to the I guess yeah

Ashley PaolaI would still say to wom okay uh what about World War II woman Vietnam I would just say woman all around the Ukraine war

Brian Atlasyeah well even Ukraine war is very modern and I have some information on on uh the Ukraine war okay but before you say that can can can you say women women

Andrew Wilsonwomen women instead of wom women you keep on saying woman is plural like women women in here women wom women all it's my Spanish and so let me ask you just one

Andrew Wilsonmore time so in the Ukrainian no no no no it's not your Spanish hang on we have plural in Spanish too for Mu hair right we we know what span we know what plural is in Spanish too right yes you're right all

Brian Atlasright okay so I'm trying to wrap this up here so why cigarettes I got we got to ask hold on no no no no hold on okay so what's wrong with cigarettes you start smoking helps with the brain no it

Ashley Paoladoesn't actually uh I I saw this video actually people who smoke cigarettes it actually does you know stop it don't even just stop maybe nicotine if anything ni yeah the nicotine that's but

Brian Atlasjust like not the tobacco so uh Ukraine war who's the primary victim of the Ukraine war men or women I still believe women okay so Nick could you pull up that that photo do you know which one

Brian Atlasmake sure it's the Blurred ones you know what I'm talking about ni okay so uh and there's also news articles you can fact check me on this but so when the Ukraine war broke out all the men had to stay in

Brian Atlasthe country like they could not leave so from the age of 18 to it was either 60 65 they had to remain in the country right all the women of any age could flee the country oh wait hold on Nick

Brian Atlasall the women could flee the country okay so evade the war they they couldn't be drafted into the war they could leave so all the men could stay maybe some of

Brian Atlasnot all the men had to get involved in the war effort but a lot did a lock out drafted the women could go to they could go off to Romania they could go off to London they could go to Stockholm they

Brian Atlascould be up in the club doing all this [ __ ] uh pull up the photo Nick so on the left you have Ukrainian women

Brian Atlaswho were screenshotted on uh I believe it's primarily Tinder a

Brian Atlasdating app trying to get dick in various countries that they fled to on the right you have well I can't really I don't

Brian Atlaswant to say it but you have uh the casualties of War uh seeing this photo women clubbing

Brian Atlaspartying trying to get [ __ ] down by by dudes in Stockholm desperation hold on loneliness and Desperation okay so I

Brian Atlasdidn't say loneliness well okay whatever so knowing that there are thousands or hundreds of thousands maybe millions of Ukrainian women who went to Stockholm

Brian Atlasand went to go [ __ ] hot Swedish dudes and they're on Tinder and then comparing it to the other folks though

Ashley Paolamhm does that change your view at all on this no because although that they are victims to death like obviously that's

Ashley Paolahorrible and I do believe that men still have the responsibility of protecting and but but this is going back to not to bring back to you but it's like those

Ashley Paolawomen are now without a male figure now they're they probably have kids they're Des they're desperate they're trying to do they're they go into sex work or looking to to survive and now not only

Ashley Paolaare they victims but now the children are victims too to just more Brokenness and all this Deery are you sure you're not a feminist

Brian Atlase no well that's a very that's a very hold on hold on hold on hold on I don't I feel stop stop stop stop your view is a very gynocentric one it's very woman

Brian Atlascentered woman focused M how could it not be the case when when I use the term the word primary which has a meaning how can it not be the case

Brian Atlasnow if I grant you that it would be absolutely devastating to for example a wife of a soldier and that Soldier died in war if I grant you that it would be devastating to her and she would be hurt

Brian Atlasand and distraught couldn't you at least be Grant to me that dying is worse than

Ashley Paolabeing distraught and uh coping with the death of a loved one yes but I'm also not just looking at that look at the Palestine and Israel on both ends all the kids and the the mothers that okay

Brian Atlasbut let's keep it okay um but that's still valid right that that is still they're still being victims to war that okay fine I'll even argue this point even in the Israel Palestine conflict

Brian Atlasthe men are still the primary victims of war even in this conflict well I mean in fact the men are the primary victims of war in every single but the are start

Ashley Paolawomen are here declaring war hold on hold on but you people that that are like you they like to argue that oh feminists are victims and la la like that victim mentality right so why can't

Ashley Paolayou use that same logic with men like AR isn't that your guys's duty to protect us wom is it is it is it wrong to say that somebody dying they're they're not a victim they

Brian Atlasare a victim but also what about the kids and and the children that are hold no no no hold on no no no let me address hold on hold on stop stop stop so when feminists

Brian Atlasmay come stop stop stop everybody stop godamn stop stop holy [ __ ] Jesus Christ you guys

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