The Most INSANE Show Ever?! FERAL CHAOS PANEL?! 2+24?! She EXTORTS Men?! | Dating Talk #169

Date: 2024-06-12

Duration: 8h 46m

Guests

Brian Atlas

DDesiree Noel >

AAshley Paola >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Kwan Clark(guest)

SPEAKER_05Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_07Alex(guest)

SPEAKER_09Desiree Noel(guest)

SPEAKER_10Jessica(guest)

SPEAKER_12Danielle (D)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Ashley Paola(guest)

SPEAKER_14Emily(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteDesiree explains transactional dating: sets price for male access to her time based on their 'vibe'; example of charging rent (~$2700) for a date/night

“if I know that's what he's coming at me with I set the price for judging on his character where he's at in life his Vibe”

QuoteAlex discloses she is in a committed relationship with a 53-year-old man who has a terminal pancreatic illness; they met when he noticed her walking with a cane at a movie theater

“he has a terminal illness so terminal is it cancer or no it's a pancreas thing so he doesn't have too long to live”

QuoteDesiree admits it's the same energy exchange as prostitution: 'we call it whatever you want... it doesn't matter'

“it's honestly not it's the same type of energy exchange we call it whatever you want I have no taboo about it”

QuoteBrian mocks Terence Howard quotes about Flower of Life and wave conjugations, feeding them to Desiree who partially agrees with the pseudoscience

“he was able to open up the Flower of Life properly and find the real wave conjugations”

ControversyAndrew challenges panelists on their self-ratings: claims none are 8s, compares them to Scarlett Johansson in her prime as benchmark for 8.

“not even one who's an eight”

QuoteDesiree's hostile pre-show DMs read aloud: 'I'm above needing to answer your certain questions, just book me on your fucking show'

“I am above needing to answer your certain questions just book me on your fucking show and let's go”

ControversyAndrew reveals he secretly recorded Desiree backstage saying she wanted 'revenge' on Brian and that Brian 'didn't know who he was fucking with'

“you said behind the scenes that you wanted Revenge that you wanted to get some guys and that Brian didn't know who he was fucking with”

QuoteDesiree discloses children's photos and explicit OnlyFans content are on same Instagram account; defends it as no shame around sexuality

“I don't believe that human sexuality is anything wrong in my book there's nothing wrong with it I celebrate sex”

ControversyAndrew uses logical conditionals to force Ashley to concede men are primary victims of war; Ashley reluctantly agrees.

“it would stand to reason then that men were the primary victims of war is that the argument Brian”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions (name/age/location/occupation)

Each guest introduces themselves. Danielle (D) CEO foot fetish business NJ/NYC; Desiree Noel sex coach SoCal 38; Alex multimedia artist 26 Russian-born; Emily 18 Pahrump NV unemployed; Ashley Paola 29 IE medical sales; Jessica 25 Hawthorne student/mom; Kwan Clark 30 San Diego waitress; Andrew Wilson The Crucible host.

Relationship status round

Each guest shares current relationship status and longest relationship. Desiree explains transactional dating philosophy at length. Alex discusses age-gap relationship with terminally ill 53-year-old partner. Emily is 3 weeks into new relationship. Ashley in talking stage with 43yo man.

Desiree's transactional dating/sex work model

Extended debate over Desiree charging men for her time/company (rent = ~$2700 SoCal). Discussion of whether this constitutes prostitution. Desiree insists it is legitimate business/energy exchange. Panel challenges her on tax implications, ethics, and consistency.

Polyamory vs monogamy debate

Alex and Desiree defend non-monogamous structures. Andrew Wilson argues for monogamy as healthy norm. Extended debate on jealousy as healthy vs. toxic, value of commitment, and what 'going with the flow' means.

Vibration/frequencies/New Age philosophy debate

Desiree explains 'low vibration' men, quantum physics as applied to dating, epigenetics as 'vibrational transfer'. Andrew challenges scientific validity. Brian invokes Terence Howard quotes. Discussion of Anunnaki, gravity as effect vs. force.

Women's laws / society / religion debate

Panel discusses why major societies have historically restricted women's behavior. Ashley gives Biblical perspective (male leadership/God-ordained structure). Andrew uses 'wait till your father gets home' example for male ontological authority.

Prostitution is it good or bad

Andrew poses law of excluded middle: is prostitution good or bad? Desiree says it is good for her personally. Andrew presses: she is 'a lot of hooker'. Panel asked to raise hands if prostitution is good.

Ratings round (looks self-assessment)

Brian asks each guest to rate their looks 1-10. Most guests rate themselves 7-8. Andrew sarcastically claims 11. Desiree rates herself 8 then walks it back to 'solid 3' on Scarlett Johansson scale. Extended debate on objectivity of beauty standards.

Desiree's DMs / pre-show confrontation meta-discussion

Brian reads Desiree's hostile pre-show DMs aloud ('I'm above answering your questions, just book me'). Panel reacts. Desiree explains she was 'on a mission' and didn't know who Brian was. Andrew reveals he recorded Desiree backstage saying she wanted 'revenge' on Brian.

Body count round

Brian asks each guest's body count. Danielle: 7. Desiree: ~50-100 (lost virginity at 13). Alex: 8-10. Emily: 5-10. Kwan: under 10. Andrew: 10-12 intercourse (more if counting oral). Discussion of whether body count matters.

Primary victim of war (men vs women)

Final debate: who is the primary victim of war — men or women? Ashley argues women/children left behind are primary victims due to domino effect. Andrew uses logical conditionals (preference for abandonment over death) to show men have it worse. Ashley eventually concedes men are primary victims under Andrew's logic.

Closing call to action / wrap-up

Brian asks Desiree and Danielle if they'd stop sex work. Desiree says no; Danielle says she'd wait until she has a husband. Final shoutouts, raid to esfandTV, Andrew's channel promotion.

Transcript

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Kwan Clarkdragon you want to come home to a nice woman that's going to take like give you massages if you had a stressful day you won't get on his nerves um you'll cook for him obviously you'll go to the gym

Kwan Clarkwith him make his protein shake I'm just thinking like a gym perspective like why are you doing all that because you love him I love him is is it because you love him what how

Kwan Clarkdo you show respect though how do you show respect yeah I mean I guess in multitudes of ways I mean if he if he says hey um I don't want you to wear that and this is the reason why or even

Andrew Wilsonif he doesn't give a reason you just got to tr what if he says I don't want you to hang out with your best friend K Lord have mercy what if he says I don't want you to hang out with your best friend K

Andrew Wilsonhe says that k i I got to know you're going to show it a multitude of ways you're going to rub his back you're going to suck s the D you're going to do all this what if he says it don't want

Kwan Clarkyou to hang out with the best friend how are we going to show the respect how bit I'm going to be living with him anyways I wouldn't be hanging out with

Andrew WilsonCorey at all so Corey doesn't exist if your man says Corey doesn't exist right when I'm living with him yes all right I I feel like we're getting

Andrew Wilsonsomewhere I feel like we're getting somewhere all right uh did you was was there someone else that you had a question for yeah yeah so uh for Thea Pentecostal on the

Andrew Wilsonoh sorry my bad my bad what are you bringing more than speaking in tongues to him while he's asleep that's a joke it's a joke don't beat me up about it

Andrew WilsonI'm kidding right we're we're of two different face but uh you've been pretty base the whole panel too what are you bringing to the table what are you

Ashley Paolabringing for the man for sure honor and respect support um my boyfriend is a big business owner so a lot of stress so I

Ashley Paolamake sure that I'm there for him um spend quality time with him um be submissive and I still would find as a as a wife I would still find ways to

Ashley Paolaplease him I think that is part of a Biblical wife is uh what is submission mean to you trusting him and just like if he tells me to go left I go left if he um what if you think you should go

Andrew Wilsonright so so here's the thing so you and I can agree on one underlying Point MH if your man wants you to become a Satanist obviously you're going to say

Andrew Wilsonno because you're going to defer to your faith yeah because that is within reason right however you can have tons of disagreements within

Ashley Paolareason and you can have a deferring opinion to his MH do you defer to him yeah I think think the foundation is that he has to be submitted to God then I could be submitted to him and then

Andrew Wilsoneverything else besides that like if if I don't agree with him 100% I still have to trust him what if he's spending all that money the ways that you hate and

Andrew Wilsonhe's raising those kids all the ways that you hate you just you're so angry about it do you submit yeah I well I would talk to him about it I think that

Andrew Wilsonit would still but he dismisses it he says no Then I'm in charge of this family and I'm correct and that's that you defer the

Andrew Wilsononly way I would defer if he's abusing or cheating like abusing my kids or abusing me or yeah he's not abusing him he just has a different worldview for

Andrew Wilsonwhere he wants them no I would I would submit you would submit yeah okay even though my even even in cases of Faith as long as he's not leading you towards the devil right right it has to be within

Andrew Wilsonthe confines of Reason most arguments hang on most arguments happen within the confines of reason he may have reasons you don't

Ashley Paolalike but that doesn't make him unreasonable you still submit right yes if yes he is submitted to God then I will submit to him even if I don't

Ashley Paolaunderstand why he's telling me to do something so how is that not fake Freedom that you mentioned earlier because then I don't it's not fake freedom because I don't have to worry about a lot of things that he's carrying

Andrew Wilsonthat have you ever heard like or you probably haven't that's insane that wait wait wait are you saying that your future children aren't going to be free what my children yeah to the to the

Andrew WilsonRussian gal me um I'm not your children your children I'm never going to have kids so it doesn't matter if you did if you did we're going to assume for a second that you had a child okay are you

Alexgoing to protect the the um the plugs they don't stick their finger in it um probably not because that not the plugs not the plugs because I've put my

Alexfingers in the plugs when I was a kid and I'm fine what if they sucked their finger and then they did it then they do that I would teach my kids better than that because I was teach your K did that

Alexwith an extension cord Za them and not to stick their finger in a light socket really okay all I'm saying is that um I mean it's very different but also I'm

Alexnot understanding the point of your your kid put their hand in a fire would you let your 2-year-old put their hand in a fire um yes I would because that would teach them a lesson because that's what was done to me okay okay so I'm

Andrew Wilsongoing to answer your question though you say is that fake Freedom no no it's because you men F would you let your kid hang would you let your kid take a knife hang on hang on would you let your kid take a knife

Alexand start stabbing themselves in a chest because that would teach them a lesson no I would grab the knife and then I would grab a pillow and then I would stab the pillow to show what happens

Andrew Wilsonwhen you actually stab but that but that kid doesn't sound free that doesn't sound free that sounds like hang on that sounds like you're dominating them and not letting them do what they want but

Alexhow is okay I'm sorry how is that different from okay I'm not understanding exactly the point between a grown no a grown

Alexwoman submitting you were the kid okay I'm not understanding the the point and the difference between a grown woman who already has gone through life and

Alexalready has been taught all these lessons um submitting fully to a man even with against her own body how is that not a fake freedom because you

Alexyourself said a great question answer yeah hang on I'll answer I'll answer the question let us assume for a moment that you're 20 years old when you have your

Andrew Wilsonfirst child you would you would agree that your experience is far surpassing that of the child correct mhm and so it was a duty for you to guide the child

Andrew Wilsonright yeah okay great so let us assume for a second you're 40 and marry a 20-year-old does the same Duty exist no

Andrew Wilsonit does not and it should why not um because at that point it's a grown person so oh I see so so the lack of experience or the lack of emotional

Andrew Wilsonmaturity or the lack of anything that one partner May lack they you have no obligation to follow the other one for guidance what if you are correcting a child it's

Alexbecause you think that the child is out of bounds right no it's because the child doesn't know any better just yet and they're still learning the same situation where they don't know

Alexany better okay except the specific situation I'm asking about is the one that you brought up where she is shaking with anger and doesn't necessarily want

Alexto do it but there are only specific only specific situations that will push her over the edge and situations which were the

Andrew Wilsoncheating and abuse and those are biblical yeah so abuse or infidelity yeah so so what's wrong with so what's wrong with that let's assume for a second she married somebody that she

Andrew Wilsonmarried somebody either equal in age to her or 20 years older yeah and it doesn't matter if she makes the agreement that that he says listen I want a submissive wife and she submits

Alexwhat is actually the problem with him saying good then we're going to do things my way there is no problem as long as everyone's consenting which is why I asked her and there's a second

Brian Atlaspart to the you guys have like one or two minutes because the TTS is that have been there's a second part to the which is what I was asking for all if you guys can each make your final arguments on

Ashley Paolathis please go ahead okay so the second part of the equation is that he I'm not just submitting to him but he's also laying his life down for me so he's protecting me he's loving me he's looking out for me so if I really

Ashley Paolabelieve that he is submissive to God and I trust him then I can be it's not it is freedom because I don't have to worry about all these things that I don't want to worry about as a as a woman I I don't

Andrew Wilsonwant I don't she's talking about she's talking about that pesky epistemology so from from her perview she submits to God

Andrew Wilsonand so she thinks that her partner in this case a man who submits to God is in the image of Christ so she's going to submit to the partner and she's going to

Andrew Wilsonsubmit to God but she's also going to say look look my partner is an image Bearer direct image bearer of the relationship between the head of the church and the body of the church and so

Alexshe's going to submit and which is perfectly fine all I was all all I want was clarification interesting thing about what she's saying though she's telling you um that this is the case right that

Andrew Wilsonthis is a truth claim what's interesting about the truth claim is that the women and men who engage in this tend to have the best outcomes how do you explain that um okay well

Alexactually we haven't had the chance to talk about my relationship so you don't know anything about me and need to and well but that's the thing it would

Andrew Wilsonanswer a lot and I agree with a lot of what you would answer a lot you said that you met with a disabled man while you were disabled and got really close

Alexto him over the disability but have open relationships is that correct we do not have open Rel relationships we are we are monogamous however if we meet

Alexsomebody it would be a conversation it would not be immediately cheating do you think that inside of a Christian marriage there would be any such conversation well I'm not I'm not

Andrew WilsonChristian so which is why I'm asking so then I don't actually need to understand your epistemology to explain my own so if you're EP knowledge hang on your your grounding

Andrew WilsonFoundation of knowledge is do as thou Wilt which is what it is then I can give you the epistemology of the Pentecostal here who is telling you that is not my

Andrew Wilsongrounding knowledge my knowledge comes from God and the submission to God and therefore the submission of my husband so if we're talking about these two worldview paradigms she has the superior

Andrew Wilsonone because she's saying that she will submit understanding there's a higher authority which is her husband and the husband's higher authority which is God you're saying you will not submit I

Alexnever said that a conversation can occur if a conversation can even occur how could you be submitted um again you don't know my relationship and if we had more time I

Andrew Wilsonwould to go into it could how could you be submitted if you could go to your husband and say you want a [ __ ] another dude how could you really be submitted because I don't that's the thing I have

Alexnot wanted um because we are all free people and if we see somebody that we like it's all about what we do with them your

Alexpleasure do as I will as I do as do as thou wit um yeah I think everyone should do whatever they want you know that Satanist Church's like affirmation I used to be a Satanist you do whatever

Alexyou want I'm not judging you I'm not judging anybody I want to understand your perspective which is why I asked and I was not asking for your perspective on her perspective I was

Andrew Wilsonasking her direct listen that's not the that's not the lean Satanist affirmation of do as thou Wilt that's an aliser Crowley affirmation the the satanic

Andrew WilsonChurch uh comes from Le that's a whole different he he's more of a nitian but that aside it doesn't matter what does matter is how could you here's my question how could you truly be

Andrew Wilsonsubmitted like she's willing to be to your husband if you're willing to go to your husband and ask if you can sleep with another man how's that actual submission well that's the thing I'm not

Alexmarried I'm never planning on being married that doesn't answer to the question and that's the thing if I were to be married and we chose to be completely monogamous for the rest of

Alexour lives and that was both of our choices that's what I would go with because that's what we have decided on however in this particular relationship that was not our DEC question to the

Andrew Wilsonquestion to the question I don't have question itself hang on the question itself if submission means I'm giving myself over to you for all Choice then

Andrew Wilsonhow could you truly be submitted to a man who you would then be willing to go to and ask that you be shared how so you get a response you

Brian Atlasmake one response Andrew you give a response and then I have to move it on yeah yeah fair enough okay so I never asked to be shared um

Alexand it it is not about submission I can't submit if it is the right situation and once again you're your

Andrew Wilsonquestion is not even applicable I'm sorry because because I'm planing on 100% submitting I'm not sub 100% so let me

Andrew Wilsonjust let me just ask this last question okay how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning I didn't eat breakfast this morning okay that's what I thought all right we

Brian Atlascan move on from there if you if you guys want once we get through the ttss we can come back to it I just it they're going to fall off so I just want to be considerate of them all

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Kwan Clarkyou at a trump rally oh my gosh so hot if you were carrying a Glock right now oh my God I love Candace she's my favorite same Trump 2024 uh we're going to have Candace back on the show oh my

TTS ReaderGod I would love to me freaking we we we had her on the show and uh yeah we're we're going to have her back on she dropped a new new podcast

TTS Readerback yard donated $69 for the burger I just came for the burger where's the burger I know I'm hungry

Danielle (D)SS are you bringing us slept or eaten anything the last two days so oh my I get some airplane food in like hours you want a protein bar no I I got some

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TTS Readerencourage them to sell themselves CPS Jokes Aside that is vile repent repent all right thank

TTS Readeryou to you I yes thank you we have another one coming in there's a little extra delay here but beaten cheeks donated

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TTS Readerthen ow me $1,000 to my account I'll talk to you pay my bills and I'm Yours drizzle drizz drizzle drizz I do like the drizzle driz Andrew beaten Cheeks is

TTS Readerin this soft era just letting you know Mr bu $69 orders from the grand Inquisitor Brian the root cause of your huge weight

TTS Readergain is eating too much popcorn during the podcast get to the gym already and ship that sleeve of blue white cups

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TTS Readerhello deseri I know you had a tough time and feel hurt regardless of your personality and difficult interpersonal communication style you do not need to be personally

Andrew Wilsonattacked thank you thank you if if anybody can name a personal attack I'd like to hear

TTS Readerit Danielle Val $69 you do a good job to take PP from the highest bidder thank thank God my wife is a blessing and I don't need to

TTS Readerworry about my daughter jumping over a strumpet mom and no Andrew I'm not kidding L all right Daniel

TTS Readerdelal Del thank you Lord thank you thank you for Danielle D Val donated $69 when your daughter is on the corner selling CA because of you remember it's all your fault a different when she

TTS Readercomes up missing because of that kind of work remember it's you that's if she doesn't jump before oh my jez oh my

TTS ReaderGod in a video game in a video game sorry don't modest donated $69 Brian don't you dare can we please

TTS Readernot ignore that blond said she would teach her Offspring to be good attacks support them selling themselves how she does it's textbook grooming

TTS Readerrebuke rebuke re okay that came through we have another one there's a bunch coming we got about seven in the queue I'm so glad

TTS Readerhim not dating donated $69 I'll ask my usual he's perfect strong handsome Rich takes you back to

TTS Readerhis place next to his bed a fully loaded AR-15 rifle you also discover a safe full of guns scary ones your reaction

TTS Readeryour reaction I take wait I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $69 my TTS please getting to it right

Brian Atlasnow uh we'll answer that there's a few more that need to come through uh so perfect guy strong handsome Rich takes you back to his place next to his bed a fully loaded AR-15 you also discover a

Brian Atlassafe full of guns scary ones what would be a scary gun I don't an ar5 scary gun I don't get it but uh a closet full of guns maybe just disregard

Brian Atlasthe scary gun cuz I don't know I feel like that kind of poisons the well a little bit so your reaction I take it and you got to speak into the mic please I would take the gun and I would just

Danielle (D)disarm it and take do you know how to disarm a AR-15 that's the big ones yeah yeah yeah

Danielle (D)yeah I go I go to guns for higher yeah and I go to the shooting range oh no with my brother he's a Marine so nice I don't know the names of the guns

Danielle (D)his after you stole his rifle you would get it disarmed if no if he was like not like being like intimidating with it is he like intimidating me with it no he's not intimidating with it yeah I'd ask

Danielle (D)him why do you have that and can you put the safety on and put it in the safe and if he said no I would take it how would you know if he put the safety on no I would ask him to do it in if he was like

Andrew Wilsonno I didn't put the safety on yeah but what does the safety on mean in Context of an AR-15 how would you know if the safety was on what does that I guess I wouldn't I would actually I would have to ask him to take the magazine out so

Danielle (D)you would just have to trust him no I would have to ask him to take the magazine out I would have to oh he text a magazine out there still One in the Chamber there's still one in there that there was one in the chamber

Danielle (D)anything I'm not how would you know there can you please put it away if you don't put it away I'll disarm it if not then can we please go in the other room

Danielle (D)an AR15 what does that stand for AR I literally told you that I don't know the names of the guns assault rifle automatic rifle no doesn't stand for assault rle automatic

Danielle (D)rifle and I held the magazine instead of holding the actual like thing that you're supposed to hold yeah it's embarrassing okay your

Desiree Noelanswer oh I'm answering yeah we're going around the table oh I mean I I would have vetted The Man by the time I ever got to his house so if he had the guns there I knew what type of guy he was and

AlexI was happy he had him there obviously we needed him mhm um kind of the same answer just because I have been in that situation and I knew who the person was

Emilyand why he had them so it was perfectly chill he and he T me how to shoot him i' be chill with as like you know what she was saying as long as he's not like in

Andrew Wilsonwith it mhm okay okay hang on I got to cut in briefly just to the Russian gal can you say in Soviet Russia you shoot

Andrew Wilsongun can you just can you just say that why would I do that for you to be a sub because I asked super nicely um

Andrew Wilsonyou hang on hang on would you please say that because it's a great

Alexreference what was I supposed to she's going to do it boys yeah Soviet Russia right uh gun shoots you okay see

Alexyou actually you actually said it the other way but okay in Soviet Russia a gun shoots you okay thank you I appreciate it he's so

Ashley Paolahappy um I agree like I I would want my husband to know how to use guns so by that time I would have known him and what he's about I honestly wouldn't mind it cuz my dad has guns already just also because of the line of work he was in I grew up

TTS Readeraround it so I wouldn't mind it either all right not really abated

TTS Reader$69 yes I sent that as joke but also to stress a critical point as a parent myself I am genuinely concerned about

TTS Readerhow you are raising your children when you admit no morals and only selfish values h you want am I supposed to say something

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TTS Readernever saw that bike cuz I went in the hell as God decided to punish my parents for being bullies and judging people

TTS Readerwhat okay Jeffrey Jennings uhoh Oh I thought we froze there for a second not a communist donated

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TTS Readerthose videos they show to kids on Why drugs are bad who's the Iguana girl iguana girl who's the Iguana girl I have no idea not a communist thank you someone

TTS Readerdonated $69 thank you Brian and Andrew a you're

Brian Atlaswelcome uh someone hey uh thank you man thank you for the uh T TTS appreciate it and then we have another one coming in stochastic Decay about to come in dude

TTS Readerthank you man appreciate it bro good to see stochastic Decay donated $69 first thought when I saw red what a dummy why did she take so many xanaxs

TTS Readerlittle did I know I'm the dummy for being on Zero's anex and listening to this blonde talk w r l everyone

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TTS Reader$69 take it easy on the hook she grew up attending St Baptist Church II H yeah that's the same church Cindy goes to

Brian Atlasyeah um to respond to stochastic Decay look

Brian Atlasuh I want to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're just tired from your airplane ride are you talking to me yeah oh yeah

Brian AtlasI'm talking to you uh wow the split is absolutely absolutely scuffed um I have absolutely no reason to lie to you well hold on people have plenty of reasons to

Danielle (D)lie and if they were to lie do you think they would be honest about no but why would I come on a show and fly all the way here just to be on drugs that makes

Danielle (D)no sense at all you're not can you speak into the mic please oh I didn't know we were doing this live I thought me you if I'm talking to the person you can go

Danielle (D)[ __ ] yourself because you don't know me at all and you have no idea how my day went what last night was like what today was like what was last night like then I took an airplane here that

Danielle (D)was 6 hours my bag that was yesterday morning I haven't slept since then I didn't go to bed I packed then I got on a plane at

Danielle (D)5:00 a.m. then I got the plane boarded at 5:00 then I got on a plane at 8:30 then I've been on a plane then I got a

Danielle (D)rental car then I drove the Rental Car 2 and 1/2 hour hours here then I got here got ready in a car and I haven't eaten

Danielle (D)anything since and then I got here and I had some alcohol that I got poured and I am extremely like I don't to be clear she

Brian Atlasbrought I want to make something clear uh the blond next to you brought the alcohol the alcohol was not provided by us I want to make that very clear to any viewers watching we we make it a rule

Brian Atlasactually that we don't provide any alcohol but sometimes things but we don't provide alcohol because we want we don't want people oh they got us drunk and I said all this stuff blah blah blah

Danielle (D)blah blah and I might have made a wrong call by saying yes because I had nothing in my stomach well but you know I'm tired but I don't understand why but you

Brian Atlaswere a little bit off even before you had a sip of alcohol and you only had a sip though you had a couple sips I don't

Brian Atlasknow I me aect your body if I told you that I had multiple people message me actually concerned over you like for example somebody who's an EMT contacted me in

Brian Atlasthe Instagram DMS and said something along the lines of do you have any Naran in the studio we are concerned that she might o d she just needs to sleep I just really

Danielle (D)need look I want again I completely understand I want to give you the benefit of the doubt I appreciate that I really really do I really do have

Brian Atlasyou made appearances on any other podcast or anything like that no okay because I mean it some people can have more uh

Danielle (D)laidback personalities I suppose you could say but for the first time meeting someone it's weird to say that you're acting like different like if we were like friends and then like I acted for example let me ask you a question if

Brian Atlasyou've never met somebody but they seem like they're acting drunk do you think that like even though you don't know the person you can still make a determination knew yeah but if I knew

Brian Atlasthe circumstances around like but what you would agree with me right that if you never met the person at all but you you witnessed their behavior you could maybe make some assumptions over there

Danielle (D)uh and then if I asked them if they're drunk I asked them and then they gave me explanation and then they have been fine

Brian Atlasever since do you may I I'm not trying to say this to be six hours well yeah but your conduct I know it's late I know you're tired I know you're hungry but your oh

Brian Atlasokay yeah it's a trick it's a trick drink that it's a trick I'm a mom it's a trick she's fine but okay I'm might totally been interrupted now I forgot

Ashley Paolacan somebody remind me what my last few words were about has been the same uh your conduct you've been here for 6 hours you've been hungry I know you're hungry but she was like oh right I know

Brian Atlasno no no I okay so I'm not saying this to be insult wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait okay

Danielle (D)so [ __ ] I just lost my train of thought again um she's tired she doesn't eat okay I'm not saying this to be insulting do you have a speech impediment I do have I can't breathe that in my my nose I can breathe out of

Danielle (D)one nostril so I can't smell if you farted right now I'd have no idea I'm not asking about your breathing I'm asking if you have no that makes it that

Danielle (D)makes me Nas so I can't normally how normal people can breathe like how you can breathe out in your nose and your mouth I can only breathe out in my mouth so I'm a mouth breather you can see my

Danielle (D)gums are inflamed I have doctor's notes if you need them I don't I don't need doctor's notes like I that's that's how but there were there was look I wasn't paying like hyperfocused attention to

Brian Atlasyou during the show there were a few points where I saw your eyes were yeah I'm I'm yeah no but at the beginning of the show at the beginning of the show

Danielle (D)you were like dozing off and yeah I I sleeping 6 hours and then I drove 2 and 1 half hours here did you sleep at all on the plane

Brian Atlasno and I worked the night before and then I packed and then I came here okay all right

Danielle (D)like I won't Bel it and I I booked the flight it's like I paid for it and I paid for a rental car I was like I'm not going to not go and if and I'm a responsible adult

Danielle (D)I'm a CEO I have my own company I would I wouldn't risk doing that and ruining my reputation sure and talking about on here I feel like it's very uncomfortable

Danielle (D)it's very inappropriate and it's very sad what what's sad or inappropriate just that I was enjoying myself and having fun and we already spoke about

Danielle (D)and I appreciated that you cared about it and then to bring it up on the podcast instead of privately well I mean there's not really

Brian Atlasroom for me to like no like private well I don't frankly afterwards I don't know it's uh I mean like okay you shut it off

Brian Atlaslit I had like a couple like I had a nurse I had an EMT private messaged me on Instagram saying I'm concerned for her she looks like she's something's going on

Desiree Noelso I don't know maybe you're just tired I'll give you the Ben I'm abusing my children so it appearances or something I mean a little different well it is

Brian Atlaswhat it is okay all right um we have another chat I'm sorry to I I'm sorry to that I cut you off there Andrew do you want to go ahead with your point

Andrew Wilsonuh yeah I was just saying um how can you get mad kind of out of both sides of the of the mouth so the one says we you're too overly concerned

Andrew Wilsonand the other one says you're not concerned enough so the thing is is um remember remember earlier in the podcast I was like grab an energy drink you'll feel better um it's not a it's not a

Andrew Wilsonbeat up on you it's just that I flown out from you know the other side of the country to be in person on that podcast and I know what jet lag will do in kind

Danielle (D)of the the sleepless night that kind of thing so so hang on it's just it's just from his perspective it's just concerning that's all no and I appreciate it I said thank you I said thank you to you and to him and to

Danielle (D)anyone who wanted to DM me you could DM me on my actual Instagram as well if you wanted to contact me directly that would probably be more sufficient than

Danielle (D)contacting someone that I just met today um but as I said I I'm a smart intelligent girl and coming here and

Danielle (D)spending money to come here and doing that would just be silly dumb and frankly just stupid but I appreciate all

TTS Readerall of you guys caring and it's just uncomfortable and I I have uh just

TTS Readerone last Ben George donated $100 a loaded AR-15 can't shoot you any more than Brian can kiss anyone on his panel that's fair enough I just had a um

Andrew Wilsona quick question for you put Ben georia right um can you say all right all right all right all right all right all right like Matthew mccon all right all right

TTS Readerall right all right all right right all right thank you can you say theore Grinch donated $69 thank you the appreciate it uh

Andrew Wilsonwhat's the question can I say what now toy boat five times fast toy boat toy boat yeah toy boat toy

Danielle (D)boat toy boo toy boo toy boo toy boat no way toy toy boo toy Bo toy Bo you can't do it Mr buet

TTS Reader$69 orders from the grand Inquisitor Miss K you are based and super fit the Inquisition patriarchy requests your services to get fat body Brian into

Andrew Wilsonshape and get him to mail the blue white cups I can help you out let me know what you need I got to lose weight I can give you full I I kind of want to hear the toy boat thing can you do it can you do

Ashley Paolait five times fast toy boat toy Bo no I can't toy Bo to no I can't toy boat toy Bo Toy Boy Andrew you won I've never seen any

Andrew Wilsonyou do it that well do you practice that like what are you doing what's your magic I I go to the mirror every morning and I say toy boat over and over and over again just in case it ever comes up

Andrew Wilsonon a random podcast that way I can the opposition can just give you can I roast you really quick can I roast you

Desiree NoelAndrew yeah but only if I get to roast you back you can fair fair I got to tell you like I don't often meet a another

Desiree Noelhuman who has a as wide of a base of knowledge as you to actually be factchecking me and I got to tell you it's

Desiree Noelsuper awesome that you are that learned of things and you obviously have still more of the biblical and religious worldview which is okay because I have

Desiree Noelan understanding of that but all I'm saying is I can so much more easily [ __ ] the average person because they don't have a wide enough span of

Desiree Noelknowledge about anything in life to actually engage me properly and you know when they say epistemology means the study of the Epistles right but you got to figure the average person is so dumb

Desiree Noelthat would fly right I'm just real talking you so I totally agree with you you know what I mean like so you have to understand that was part of my aggression was like I was just like okay

Desiree Noeloh [ __ ] usually I can just flow with it and I know enough of the basic information of what I'm saying and I can deliver it in a way that sounds intelligent enough that people just buy

Andrew Wilsonit and you know what that was my ego that was my ego raising up [ __ ] this guy knows [ __ ] I have to I have to switch hands you see this big pimple that's right here on this enormous forehead

Andrew Wilsonlet's stick with the roasting instead of the um I like I like with the massive pimple on the head I see it I don't see

Desiree Noelit because you know what I don't don't see skin color and religion no I'm saying I I see it in the sense that we all have to we come up with these labels and these stereotypes

Desiree Noeljust based on we're trying to make some sense of everything that's all but I connect soul to soul heart to heart so you don't see pimples at all I mean if it's a I had one right here I popped it on the way here cuz I was like oh my God

Desiree Noelit's getting white that's [ __ ] disgusting it's here I have one too I'm not perfect and I you or whatever I am I'm not even an girl you are alone in

TTS Readerthe woods would you rather be with a random man random bear or Putin riding a bear oh my gosh wait

Alexwhat uh inviting a bear um I would prefer just a random bear cuz I like to cuddle with bears what what the hell um

Alexwe had a lot of no we had a lot of bears in Russia not too long ago with okay in California once in a while that happens in my Village in Russia we saw Bears passing by all the time I cuddled with

TTS Readerthem literally cuddled with them while I saw a drunk man pass out on theore Grinch donated

TTS Reader$69 Max Max Max Max Max Max Max Max Max Max Max Max Max Max Max Max Max Max get back here what is that what was

Brian Atlasthat about I don't understand what is ma that was can can that can we get a a sprinkler can we get a sprinkler please and Madison needs at least one row she's she's getting a she's getting a big big

TTS Readerand non donated $69 shout out to Andrew even when he disagreed with what someone said he spoke up for the M when he felt a line

TTS Readerwas being crossed that is what a real man does EXA that was classy as [ __ ] mad respect for real respect yeah mad respect shout out to Andrew that was that was that was

Andrew Wilsoncan you roast the [ __ ] pimple can you do the I mean it's the first time enormous forehead this huge brain how old are you just like you see what I'm saying about the big brain though it's a

Desiree Noel[ __ ] curse you guys we know too [ __ ] much it's rough when you start to know a certain amount of knowledge right Andrew you start to get a little weird well I mean it's rough for me I'm not convinced that you know a certain

Desiree Noelamount of it but I am convinced that I do but okay I and I and I'm convinced that you I'm convinced that you know your [ __ ] super well all I'm asking is the grace to maybe open a corner of your

Desiree Noelmind to the fact that I understand a different Realm of the world and that Realm of the world I know my [ __ ] so I'm very confident about that and for most

Andrew Wilsonto quote hang on to quote a great atheist debater apparently a great atheist debater I remain unconvinced Christopher hitch

Desiree Noelokay I'm still roasting you Madill hunting you're still roasting me hit me get me the roast was why we're not so different we're not so different and judging by what everybody said to me

Desiree Noeltoday I mean that's a roast they already said it to me I don't need to dump the trauma back onto you you can just read the list of everything that was said to me and all I'm saying is Sir we're not

Desiree Noelthat much different different vernacular different color sex whatever you want to say stories but not that

Desiree Noeldifferent I remain unconvinced I I agree with gave you all the trauma that I had to hear from everybody I put it back on you you're a

Desiree Noelterrible parent abusing your children with your spankings and your your your um Purity culture that Purity Culture by the way they're starting to do the

Ashley Paolastudies now girls I was in the hardcore Purity culture where my whole body way much more harm being a than

Desiree Noelbeing trust me girl I went opposite I I started out a I didn't even date in college this is how I ended up with an idiot first husband I didn't I need you

Desiree Noelto understand that I'm not a Puritan no I I know know where I'm simply trying to give people perspective of so much of our worldview and our

Andrew Wilsonbeliefs are developed from have with I just sleep with whoever I want to sleep with because I think it's fun don't you think that maybe there's a balancing act there but here's the thing

Desiree Noelit's just like a kid when they're little and we take them trick-or-treating and they have the whole bag of Halloween candy we got to let them go through those few years where they make

Desiree Noelthemselves [ __ ] sick not really but I'm telling you I'm telling you but they you do you guide them you guide them but they still sneak in you're a parent you know how it goes no matter

Desiree Noelwhat somebody's throwing up until they're like nine at least okay and then they start to understand you know what I'm just going to eat my favorite pieces and so let's compromise so hang on let's

Andrew Wilsoncompromise here can we compromise between it's possible that my kids sneak candy on Halloween without me knowing that they do it with my mom has jizz on

Desiree Noelher face on her Instagram where I exist compromise between the those here's the connection here's the connection I will make the connection my kids are going to public elementary school with these

Desiree Noelcurrent agendas and they're having to hear all of these weird messages about body parts and this and that also the sexual harassment and the molestation

Brian Atlasstuff starts very young shut [ __ ] up I'm just saying shut up stop stop hold on uh what are we even talking about you first

Desiree Noeloff you got a second if you do not teach a child real [ __ ] these days somebody else is going to teach it to them one way or the other and they're not going to know what is going on but you're teaching them something that's based off

Desiree Noelfeelings and just pleasure no I'm not I'm teaching my kids about body autonomy about not attaching shame to their genitals not being afraid to be a woman have jizz all over your face with my

Desiree Noelkids don't see my Instagram they don't have phones that is for an adult Conta thing not yet not yet okay but even when they do I can explain they know my weird sense of humor they know my weird sense

TTS Readerof humor my kids know I'm weird most people probably don't buy it they're just being nice because you're crazy or they just want to

Brian Atlasbang uh there's there's four more coming through right now hold on boys hold on they need

TTS Readerto thank you old man thank you it's such a for underscore theore patriarchy donated $69 Kai rolls when her BS detector is

TTS Readergoing off his based but I could still never date her until she cut off Cory to the hooker another facial will remove that pimple it's probably true it's actually

TTS Readertrue it's very healthy for you a lot of protein just your your wife has juice too it's mags for donated $69 K we are so said we missed your take

TTS Readerdown Brian drop down and give me 30 sit-ups right now let's go let me see that belly roll one tubby tubby come on pork chop to tubby tubby major pain you remember that movie I don't

TTS Readerremember what it was where they were like he flips the chicken coin he goes have a rat knob thing off your face ripped rich and R donated $69 Fat Boy Burger King eating Andrew

TTS Readerhas more problems than a bimple fat boy has crossed over gender barriers by growing bigger tits than all the girls on the panel big old tits titties tits

Brian Atlastitties let's go running uh yo Daniel I see your TTS come in man it's like I said we do uh I try not to it's a little it's a

Desiree Noellittle too much man I'm now leing little too much how you going to do that to us are you sure you want to hear it can we generalize it so it's not like personally attacking it is targeted

Brian Atlaswell go ahead then bring it already cry if you have a question fre bring it go ahead I'm sorry Daniel but we do reserve the right to not show and I mean it this is probably a

Brian Atlaslittle uh little to so I'm sorry Daniel I can't uh play it if you uh if you DM me something a little more polite to my Instagram directly within the next uh

Brian Atlasfew minutes I'll just read something else you'll have to send me a DM message tone it down a not he's saying tone it down but can't read it I apologize I appreciate your TTS though or your

Madisonmessage anyways uh oh Maddie you got something you got a question and then we're going to wrap up guys it's getting it's going around the table do you think that body count

Brian Atlasmatters starting with you

Desiree Noelno your turn I don't think body count matters but I think Soul count matters all right um can you explain

Desiree Noelexplain that a little bit yes you see a lot of people are engaging in the act of sex because there's another person there but essentially it's a self-centered just kind of mutual masturbation

Desiree Noelsituation where basically I could use a man like a dildo like a casual thing I don't have a connection with you you know it could be like that and in that

Desiree Noelsense who who cares like humans are humans we do weird things we go through adolescence there's experimentation whatever but I believe that it's a very serious matter when you create a soul

Desiree Noelconnection with somebody and then engage in the sexual relationship that's a different M yeah you really can trust me girl you can really separate it and I that

Desiree Noelis that is the thing is I no longer have those masturbation type of situations it has to be a soul Connection in a sense I'm taking responsibility for whatever comes up for them in that very

Desiree Noelvulnerable situation and I take that very serious they are willing to pay your rent is that correct but I would only get to ever that level of ever being sexual with man with a man in a

Desiree Noelsense I'm saying let me know more of you and I'm a sense deciding when I am agreeing to sleep with the man Nick if Nick back there offered you $10,000 to

Desiree Noel[ __ ] tonight no no I mean but I will tell you this I will tell you this tell I would tell you this I got I got a good sense about him as a person he was

Desiree Noelvery respectful to me he's attractive oh you can hit for free he's tall all of these things so what I would do is say let's get to know each other a little bit better I I'm not saying yes I'm not saying no I'm saying I need to know you

Andrew Wilsona little bit better can I ask you your honest take on something yeah let us assume for a second that there was a man who was interested in two women and both of them had had sex with 50 men the

Andrew Wilsonfirst one goes to him and says look I had sex with 50 men and it meant nothing and the second one goes to him and said look I had sex with 50 men and I only had a soul bond with 25 of them do you

Desiree Noelthink that he would perceive it any differently between the two I have no idea his worldview or spiritual beliefs about things so I can't answer that because everybody honestly looks at these things differently from what I

Desiree Noelknow out here the average man honestly you guys you want do you want the real answer or do you want to argue with me because there's no answer the real answer

Desiree Noelis a man will say he wants this virginal innocent thing but then he gets with her and she doesn't know what she's doing

Desiree Noelshe's not comfortable with her body she doesn't really she just hasn't put the time in she hasn't put the work in she

Desiree Noelyou guys hold on good sex is a craft you develop it over time it's not just this the my wedding night my wedding night you guys I I cried it was painful I

Desiree Noeldidn't know what the [ __ ] I was doing he didn't know what the [ __ ] he was doing but this is real talk I was in the churches getting the phone calls from the girls on their wedding night who

Ashley Paolawere sold this bill of goods crying why did they lie to us why did they lie to us that's not everybody that's a lot of girls before we got married I lot of

Ashley PaolaChristian are it was a lot of girls guys know there's other women I get it but that's a a man took advantage of a woman can you say that that woman can just I'll tell

Desiree Noelyou this I've never had an issue getting into relationship because of how many people I've slept with I don't even know so it never even comes up am I going to

Desiree Noelask the man how many have you I don't give a [ __ ] I care about who they are here and now the past doesn't even exist it literally doesn't exist all that exists is right now but if you

Desiree Noelbelieve everything is so vibrational don't you think think that when you're having sex the vibrations are like yes and that's why I'm extremely cautious with who I would ever have sex with I

Desiree Noelthink you're having this idea that I'm just going out [ __ ] whoever I don't I can I'm sorry I come across aggressive

Andrew Wilsonhangang we got to move it on we got to move it on hang on I just want to ask this one last question honestly as truth is your highest value which I do respect at least that right truth is your

Andrew Wilsonhighest value did a single woman of the church actually call you and say she was having trouble because she was a virgin on a wedding night these were my friends

Desiree Noelyes they were crying single her name is Ash Garcia she's a public figure you could contact her she's in New York I don't know if she would feel comfortable

Desiree Noelwith me sharing already did but that's one off the top yeah I gave you her ma name she has a different last name now so it could cover the

Andrew Wilsoncan you provide a single shred of evidence a single woman who was a virgin on a wedding night in a church called you and cried to you because she was upset she was a virgin on a wedding

Desiree Noelnight a single sh told I just have you ever been a woman and had sex the first time do you know what it feels like do you know what it feels like do you know what it feels like to have a vagina and have for the first time in

Desiree Noelyour life because you were told that tampon that St yelling because I get upset because of I get upset because of the ignorance we have families out here I

Desiree Noelunderstand that there's intelligent ways to take the Purity culture and all that but a lot of families are running with this in the wrong direction and we have girls out here who've never even

Ashley Paolainserted a tampon and now it's their wedding night and it is not a I mean experiencing it like a r hold on on hold

Ashley Paolaon but hold on that is equalent to anybody losing their virginity not just on their marriage you don't know any women who got married just gave you a name to the I just gave you a name

Desiree Noel[ __ ] I just gave you a name not to mention myself not to mention all of the hundreds of women who came through my what is the difference between that and the night you lose your virginity outside of marriage it's the same when I

Desiree Noellost my virginity was very what are we talking about I was I I was very happy was very happy body count what does we do count matters next person cool we got

Alexmove it on go ahead I'll get the TTS in just a sec guys okay okay I do think that the body count matters but only to kind of see where the other person's

Alexexperiences are at and what to expect from them okay yes thank I'm not I'm just I'm okay go ahead yes

Emilyum I used to like it used to matter to me it doesn't anymore well okay I guess

Brian Atlasall right 100% it matters Okay Okay it definitely matters word Maddie yeah your follow-up question Maddie go ahead should we wait till she gets back oh

Ashley Paola[ __ ] oh she coming back she's she's she's coming back waiting for you get over here quick come on hle hustle quick quick you're good you got it okay that's a cute

Brian Atlasoutfit I like the shirt from you change again no oh that's okay uh so go uh what's everybody's body count starting with

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