The Most INSANE Show Ever?! FERAL CHAOS PANEL?! 2+24?! She EXTORTS Men?! | Dating Talk #169

Date: 2024-06-12

Duration: 8h 46m

Guests

Brian Atlas

DDesiree Noel >

AAshley Paola >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Kwan Clark(guest)

SPEAKER_05Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_07Alex(guest)

SPEAKER_09Desiree Noel(guest)

SPEAKER_10Jessica(guest)

SPEAKER_12Danielle (D)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Ashley Paola(guest)

SPEAKER_14Emily(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteDesiree explains transactional dating: sets price for male access to her time based on their 'vibe'; example of charging rent (~$2700) for a date/night

“if I know that's what he's coming at me with I set the price for judging on his character where he's at in life his Vibe”

QuoteAlex discloses she is in a committed relationship with a 53-year-old man who has a terminal pancreatic illness; they met when he noticed her walking with a cane at a movie theater

“he has a terminal illness so terminal is it cancer or no it's a pancreas thing so he doesn't have too long to live”

QuoteDesiree admits it's the same energy exchange as prostitution: 'we call it whatever you want... it doesn't matter'

“it's honestly not it's the same type of energy exchange we call it whatever you want I have no taboo about it”

QuoteBrian mocks Terence Howard quotes about Flower of Life and wave conjugations, feeding them to Desiree who partially agrees with the pseudoscience

“he was able to open up the Flower of Life properly and find the real wave conjugations”

ControversyAndrew challenges panelists on their self-ratings: claims none are 8s, compares them to Scarlett Johansson in her prime as benchmark for 8.

“not even one who's an eight”

QuoteDesiree's hostile pre-show DMs read aloud: 'I'm above needing to answer your certain questions, just book me on your fucking show'

“I am above needing to answer your certain questions just book me on your fucking show and let's go”

ControversyAndrew reveals he secretly recorded Desiree backstage saying she wanted 'revenge' on Brian and that Brian 'didn't know who he was fucking with'

“you said behind the scenes that you wanted Revenge that you wanted to get some guys and that Brian didn't know who he was fucking with”

QuoteDesiree discloses children's photos and explicit OnlyFans content are on same Instagram account; defends it as no shame around sexuality

“I don't believe that human sexuality is anything wrong in my book there's nothing wrong with it I celebrate sex”

ControversyAndrew uses logical conditionals to force Ashley to concede men are primary victims of war; Ashley reluctantly agrees.

“it would stand to reason then that men were the primary victims of war is that the argument Brian”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions (name/age/location/occupation)

Each guest introduces themselves. Danielle (D) CEO foot fetish business NJ/NYC; Desiree Noel sex coach SoCal 38; Alex multimedia artist 26 Russian-born; Emily 18 Pahrump NV unemployed; Ashley Paola 29 IE medical sales; Jessica 25 Hawthorne student/mom; Kwan Clark 30 San Diego waitress; Andrew Wilson The Crucible host.

Relationship status round

Each guest shares current relationship status and longest relationship. Desiree explains transactional dating philosophy at length. Alex discusses age-gap relationship with terminally ill 53-year-old partner. Emily is 3 weeks into new relationship. Ashley in talking stage with 43yo man.

Desiree's transactional dating/sex work model

Extended debate over Desiree charging men for her time/company (rent = ~$2700 SoCal). Discussion of whether this constitutes prostitution. Desiree insists it is legitimate business/energy exchange. Panel challenges her on tax implications, ethics, and consistency.

Polyamory vs monogamy debate

Alex and Desiree defend non-monogamous structures. Andrew Wilson argues for monogamy as healthy norm. Extended debate on jealousy as healthy vs. toxic, value of commitment, and what 'going with the flow' means.

Vibration/frequencies/New Age philosophy debate

Desiree explains 'low vibration' men, quantum physics as applied to dating, epigenetics as 'vibrational transfer'. Andrew challenges scientific validity. Brian invokes Terence Howard quotes. Discussion of Anunnaki, gravity as effect vs. force.

Women's laws / society / religion debate

Panel discusses why major societies have historically restricted women's behavior. Ashley gives Biblical perspective (male leadership/God-ordained structure). Andrew uses 'wait till your father gets home' example for male ontological authority.

Prostitution is it good or bad

Andrew poses law of excluded middle: is prostitution good or bad? Desiree says it is good for her personally. Andrew presses: she is 'a lot of hooker'. Panel asked to raise hands if prostitution is good.

Ratings round (looks self-assessment)

Brian asks each guest to rate their looks 1-10. Most guests rate themselves 7-8. Andrew sarcastically claims 11. Desiree rates herself 8 then walks it back to 'solid 3' on Scarlett Johansson scale. Extended debate on objectivity of beauty standards.

Desiree's DMs / pre-show confrontation meta-discussion

Brian reads Desiree's hostile pre-show DMs aloud ('I'm above answering your questions, just book me'). Panel reacts. Desiree explains she was 'on a mission' and didn't know who Brian was. Andrew reveals he recorded Desiree backstage saying she wanted 'revenge' on Brian.

Body count round

Brian asks each guest's body count. Danielle: 7. Desiree: ~50-100 (lost virginity at 13). Alex: 8-10. Emily: 5-10. Kwan: under 10. Andrew: 10-12 intercourse (more if counting oral). Discussion of whether body count matters.

Primary victim of war (men vs women)

Final debate: who is the primary victim of war — men or women? Ashley argues women/children left behind are primary victims due to domino effect. Andrew uses logical conditionals (preference for abandonment over death) to show men have it worse. Ashley eventually concedes men are primary victims under Andrew's logic.

Closing call to action / wrap-up

Brian asks Desiree and Danielle if they'd stop sex work. Desiree says no; Danielle says she'd wait until she has a husband. Final shoutouts, raid to esfandTV, Andrew's channel promotion.

Transcript

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Kwan Clarkrelationship with anyone no but I've been into relationships and he was there for me when those didn't work out like it was never or anything like that attracted to white girls he likes white

Kwan Clarkgirls and Asians I'm neither so he I know I'm black I know czy what the okay but see I can I can get I understand you because I have a best had

Jessicaa best friend we were really close for 8 years he got a girlfriend his girlfriend wasn't us but look I'm not the type of friend who who I'm going to insert myself in his relationship like I'm the type of friend like I already know like hey if I'm the girlfriend I wouldn't

Jessicalike my boyfriend is hanging out with her so I would never put my friend in that so we actually distance oursel he knows he can text me for anything but as of now I know that she's his best friend like I I would never be like oh well I'm still his best friend cuz no you know at

Brian Atlasthe end of the day you're with someone that's your best friend so I got a question though let's say you meet the top G you need a top G oh Jesus a top G

Brian AtlasAndrew the top a a to AR you need the top chei you're like this is the one this is the guy I want to marry I want to have kids I'm dropping everyone talking about you

Brian Atlasyou I'm not even talking to you talking to me I'm talking to her so you do have this male best friend you guys have been friends for 16 years if the right man steps to you MH

Brian Atlaslet's see who's your do you have a celebrity crush Michael B Jordan no Jordan uh who's like a I used okay I'll just say The Rock The Rock okay okay the rock steps to you I don't like his

Brian Atlasmentality but yeah the rock wait you don't like the Rock's mentality what about uh bums Feld wait what's his name the bodybuilder who's that what's

Jessicahis name bum bums bum bum bum Feld Bumstead Chris Bumstead you know them you don't know the bodybuilder okay someone you just really down for so the rock yeah just cuz of

Danielle (D)physically he he looks like the rock that's my type the rock is your have you seen his pictures like back in the day with his turtleneck and his tucked in yes

Brian Atlasthat's funny that's funny uh wait so okay your your celebrity crush steps to you and you've been dating he just wants you to not be friends with this guy anymore do you do

Brian Atlasthe friend break up or do you yeah Cory's not going anywhere so your your dream guy your dream guy mhm he's perfect in every way except that he

Kwan Clarkdoesn't want you to be have a male best friend that wouldn't make any sense because he could talk to him he could FaceTime him he could be he's going to be he's going to know who Corey is when I've been in relationships whenever I had arguments with my man Cory had

Kwan Clarknothing to do with that I didn't go [ __ ] to Cory about it he didn't come to me and say oh you should break up with him he never he never interfered in the relationship ever but but he's saying like in this scenario I never cele what

Brian Atlasyour male friend is doing let's assume your male friend is everything's above board there's absolutely no uh at least on your part there's no concerns there there's he he's not acted in a way that

Brian Atlaswould give uh your potential mate any concern whatsoever but it still is his desire for you to not have this male friend mhm

Brian Atlasdo you pick the male friend ever in my life like ever again yeah sure including your male friend of 16 years that you do have yeah that's the only one um

Kwan Clarkyeah if I'm being honest I'm not going to lie I I'm not giving up that friendship cuz he knows about me that like he's like we've experienced a lot together nothing sexual we were never close like that we don't sleep in the

Kwan Clarksame bed nothing like that it's never been like that it's literally just been a bro relationship I'm I'm 30 we've been together not together we've been friends since we were 14 I think that's think that relationship is worth keeping yeah

Kwan Clarktold me don't ever get rid of a friend like that cuz he's a really good friend like it's could you see him in a different light e no ew no no and especially because you guys have that

Ashley Paolawhat is there to be jealous about just he has a penis he's not my type I'm not his type it would just never happen I think it would more just naturally fizzle out if you really are all in with your husband he will become your

Ashley Paolabest there's only so much time and energy that you have anyways it's like so you're have kids you're going to have a home it's like naturally things are just going to my attention is going to go to them not to Cory that sounds dumb

Brian Atlasyeah yeah yeah like if if my man had a girl that was a friend to him but and they've never done anything sexual I would not care right what if the guy what if the guy that you're interested in your dream guy he does care and he's

Brian Atlasnot listening to your justifications or your rationale or your reason reasoning for him it's just an outright deal breaker your dream guy steps to you everything that you want in looks

Brian Atlaspersonality his success his income whatever let's see let's here let's go to the extreme he's a billionaire

Desiree Noelmassive peen oh my God that's a that's a fine okay body I never a rich guy rich people have too many damn problems what if he doesn't have problems he's just

Kwan Clarkyour dream your dream he's my dream guy he's not going to tell me you need to drop that friend he's your Dre okay but hold on he's your dream guy in every single way but one

Kwan Clarkyeah then he's that but no perfect for this scenario though just [ __ ] if if you do you guys want me to lie and say yeah I drop him I wouldn't I don't know

Desiree NoelI'm trying to think of a scenario that's the problem of society is thinking that we need to settle for stupid [ __ ] like that in instead of instead of stepping it up and say that's just not my guy that's not actually my dream guy my

Kwan Clarkdream guy will come in and he will be totally if you literally met Cory you would and you see our Dynamic you would see that it's literally let's FaceTime him let's ask him uh did you want to check to see if

Madisonhe's responded oh you text him oh yeah she texted him oh he answered what did he say he said God no the [ __ ] [ __ ] off lesbian weird ass why would you even ask

Desiree Noelthat I feel like he's watching and he's like let me make sure I look different than if he was your brother biologically what he just going to drop your brother doesn't make any sense maybe he's watching the show L that's how we talk

Kwan Clarkto each other I call him a [ __ ] all the time you know men don't like being called [ __ ] but that's how we talk they are they are brother and sister by water or whatever you want to say my mom calls him her white son like it's just not it's a white guy he's not a big buff

Desiree Noelblack dudee with Dread sexy it's not like that is he cute he's he's a skinny white boy would that make a difference Nick is if the guy was in if you didn't feel any competitive like you know you can [ __ ] her better you know you look

Desiree Noelbetter you know you make better money you know she likes you better would you still feel that same like hell no you can't hang out with that little twerpy guy that you're not even into doesn't matter if he's twer but what if it were adopted brother and sister doesn't

Brian Atlasmatter if you okay well how far do we extend this right so okay okay well my I you should trust your girl that you should let her go to a singles club and

Kwan Clarkall clubs are singles clubs and let her get drunk and let Her Dance Let Her you own her happen to me if I'm being honest with you I don't go out to clubs anyways

Brian Atlaslike you're going to get to know the woman that I am I don't go to Club I'm not talking about I'm speaking in generalities here so and let how far do you take how far do you take your

Desiree Noelhow far do you take that there's this is I'm a grown ass woman nobody owns me I don't get permission they either want to be with me and they're down for it or they're

Brian Atlasnot that's not my [ __ ] problem okay so if I'm in so hold on just to be clear you're a grown ass woman and you're in a monogamous relationship and at some point in the relationship you determine

Brian Atlashm I want to go [ __ ] somebody else and your boyfriend says no I'm not letting you do that it wouldn't it wouldn't go that way I would bring it to my partner

Desiree Noeland I would say this is a desire that I have oh well that's break up for I'm having this fantasy just like he could come to me and say there's this girl at the gym that's super hot what do you

Desiree Noelthink I think confessing Temptation it can be healthy but that's why you have other people to I understand but let me just interject sometimes it's just a matter of needing to have the safety to

Desiree Noelbe honest with the person and say I'm having this desire let's talk it through why am I having this is there a need that's not getting met that's a separate convers at the end of the day if I truly

Brian Atlaswanted to go and sleep with somebody else this or that it's never a permission thing it's okay but what I'm trying to yeah you you have the agency to go out and do whatever you want hold

Brian Atlason let me finish what I'm trying to articulate here is is that the relationship is over okay it's not going to be a controlling thing but I'm letting you know that if you if you're

TTS ReaderLOL paladins donated $200 you need to let her ask another D otherwise you're controlling and abusive

Brian Atlassend these 304s back to the streets well put law Paladin so look I am going to be upfront about my expectations and standards and

Brian Atlaspreferences Rel stop interrupting stop so if a girl is inclined to for example go out to nightclubs hey if you want to go do that you have the you have the

Brian Atlaspower to go do it our relationship is over if you want to I mean clear obviously I wouldn't even consider like a girl couldn't even step to me and be like I want to see with I want to be with another dude over no convers but

Brian Atlaswhat you need to understand you need to learn how to let people finish their sentence fully finish their sentence because it's very complicated when there's multiple people talking only one person can be heard at a time go

Desiree Noelahead I was just saying that we like a person like you and I if we have those differences in philosophies or whatever you want to say relationship orientation is what I call it we would never end up in an exclusive relationship with each

Desiree Noelother we're just not compatible and that's fine I would only be with the compatible men who operate the same way right so in a sense that's it works

Desiree Noelperfectly because they're the same way we all have the expectation we have the same understanding and that's it it's if if we hit a road where we're not compatible we just part ways easy peasy

Brian Atlasnow Andrew I I've heard you had interesting conversations that's perhaps somewhat related to the whole friend Dynamic here related to submission Andrew I'd like to perhaps hear you have a bit of a back and forth with her when it comes are do you consider yourself

Andrew Wilsonsubmissive like would you be would you be submissive to a man 100% I want a man to leave Al so uh go ahead Andrew so let me kind of give you my perspective here and you can tell me what you think but

Andrew Wilsonif you're in a uh committed relationship or a woman expects you to be in a Comm committed relationship wouldn't it be a great sign of respect from somebody who claims that they're submissive to um

Andrew Wilsonremove from the category uh any male friends that they may have as men often say it's not that I don't trust you I don't trust them the truth is both though right the truth is is that

Andrew Wilsonthey're looking for respect from their woman and they know that as the old saying goes right shoulder to cry on becomes a you can finish it right a shoulder to cry on becomes a what I

Andrew Wilsondon't know but I can imagine I have no idea I've never even heard that becomes a d to ride on right a shoulder to cry on becomes that's the old that's the old adage right is that uh and it and it's

Andrew Wilsontrue so if you if you guys will hear me for just a second isn't it true that when you're in a vulnerable state all of you probably on this panel have had male friends who've probably tried to exploit

Andrew Wilsonthat so that they could have sex with you am I wrong no friend no yes or a male a male period Well a male yeah yeah in general yeah yeah right so I mean so so men uh especially

Andrew Wilsonwhen we're going through high school middle school things like that we see all sorts of pathetic [ __ ] who do this type of [ __ ] right they're kind of they're like ah you know she just broke up with such and such oh that's terrible

Andrew Wilsonsweetheart I'm so sorry that that happened to you you know you know exactly what I'm talking about all of you know exactly what I'm talking about so that's kind of my line on this is

Andrew Wilsondon't you think that it's really respectful if you want a committed relationship he says look I can I'm the focus then if I'm your man I'm the focus and that's that he needs to deserve that

Andrew Wilsonhang on hang on let her let her let her finish you've had a lot of lot of speaking time no no disrespect to you but uh let us have this exchange if you don't mind go ahead yes so I agree with you cuz I've been in two relationships and both relationships they were the

Kwan Clarkmain focus it wasn't Corey every time I went to go out and hang out with people it was literally with my man I was with with my man 24/7 and for me personally I'm not sexually attracted to Corey he's not sexually attracted to me it has never

Kwan Clarkbeen like that we've even had this conversation before I said have you ever looked at me like that he's like ew no I was like okay good thank God cuz that would have been weird for our relationship if he ever told me sure sure well I mean we're just going to assume it's all true or we'll assume

Andrew Wilsonhe's your gay friend or whatever regardless of all of that yeah if your man says to you listen is a sign of respect to me I want all men cut out of your life okay I want them out of your

Kwan Clarklife and I need to be the focus of your life isn't that true submission no cuz Okay if I'm being honest okay I would just say my mother and my dad they've been together for

Kwan Clarkover 30 years and her best friend is a man and I asked my dad dad you have you ever had a problem with their friendship and my dad to told me no he said why would I have a problem with that I like

Andrew WilsonJulian like there and the thing is is that perhaps inside of that Dynamic this was able to work but the truth is is that the the chances of fidelity or

Andrew Wilsoninfidelity significantly decrease if you don't put yourself in a position to uh to commit infidelity right so in other words if you're a man and you have a job

Andrew Wilsonwhere you're at a strip club or something like this or you're around tons of promiscuous women I would say that your chances of infidelity would increase no matter how high your virtue is because you could just have a moment of weakness right you could just [ __ ] up

Andrew Wilsonhave a have a terrible moment of weakness ruin everything for yourself due to that and so usually what I see people in successful relationships do is move themselves away from anything that could cause any sort of potential

Andrew Wilsonproblem for them because we're only human right so if a man were to ask you like look I understand that this guy is an old friend of yours I get it right and and I'm not even saying that you would do anything but as a sign of

Andrew Wilsonrespect to me if you truly are submissive and you want me then it needs to just be me doesn't that seem reasonable can you meet all the woman's

Andrew Wilsonneeds no it it I understand let let us let us assume for a moment um that you can't let us assume that you have some failures that you're not perfect because

Andrew Wilsonnobody is including you yeah um why is it that it's an unreasonable thing to request that if you want to be with me for the rest of your life I don't ever want to have to worry about you and you

Andrew Wilsonknow what you know how I can always be assured that I never have to worry about you cuz I know that I'm the person you're focusing on I know that because you show me this huge Respect by

Kwan Clarkfocusing on no other men but me sorry so I don't even have sex at all cuz I don't like being touched unless I'm in a relationship so there would be no worry about me stepping out there's no point

Kwan Clarkin me stepping out for what what's the reason so for him to think or assume I could possibly step out on with Cory that's dumb we would have done something within the last 16 years nothing ever

Andrew Wilsonhappened I I I I'm not even disputing any of this I'm not like you know you know you far better than I do no yeah I see exactly what you're saying you know you far better than me I'm not even disputing any of that what I'm saying is I I think what you're say what you're

Andrew Wilsondoing is you're internalizing from your perspective what I'm saying externalize instead and look at it from the man's perspective um from his perspective not your perspective you could be correct

Andrew Wilsonabout all of this in fact he could even be wrong but part of submission is that even if he could be wrong you follow him anyway because the truth is is that when you're submitted he gets almost

Andrew Wilsoneverything right and if he's wrong about a couple things and that's what it takes for you to be in that kind of relationship isn't that worth it um can I say something hang on let her let her finish Hang on we're almost done we're

Kwan Clarkalmost done with the exchange I can't end a 16-year friendship with someone that has been in my I just can't do it now if that's the only flaw that you can find in me then I think I'm doing a

Andrew Wilsonpretty damn good job of being a good woman that's the only thing and and and listen I'm not again I don't even need to really dispute that so that I understand though but think of it from

Andrew Wilsonthe man's perspective yes what he's saying is that you're picking him over your man that's how he I know I know you don't think so externalized think of it from yeah think of it from their

Andrew Wilsonperspective he's going to think that [ __ ] he's going to think she's not willing to give me the respect that I'm asking for in this committed relationship and put me first why would he waste his time with he

Andrew Wilsonwould be put first cuz he's going to be the one putting babies in me come on I mean but you know I'm going to explain from the Assurance standpoint the way that he knows that the babies are his is

Andrew Wilsonthat you're not around other men that's that's an that's the old um so think about it this way before we paternity tests which are new right they're they're new to this Century before we had paternity tests the best way to

Andrew Wilsonassure that your Offspring was yours is that your woman was exclusive to you that's the only way you could know so it's kind of built into men that if if your woman's around a lot of other men

Kwan Clarkthey could be unsure and so yeah that of course that would cause an insecurity and that's probably a good insecurity to cause right so me being in the fitness industry and being around a lot of a lot of guys that work out is he are you telling me that he's going say nope you

Andrew Wilsoncan't be you can't go to any Fitness events no I don't I don't think so I don't think that if it was in a professional setting that you're working around men or something like this I think that most men are reasonable when

Andrew Wilsonit comes to such a setting uh but I think that if you're out hanging out with other men exclusively doing things with them uh maybe you and your friend like to go to movies or maybe you like

Kwan Clarkto go to his house and hang out or maybe you like to go do a b or c that I think that they it's reasonable for them to see it as a signed respect yeah mhm well I'd have to we'd have to have that conversation cuz I'd be very open

Kwan Clarkabout everything I'm not going to lie I'm not going to Sugar cut anything and like I said I don't have sex at all me personally I know there's a lot of other hores out here that will [ __ ] their friends I'm not like that I don't have a roster of guys I'm dating with intent I

Kwan Clarkwant to get married and have children and if a guy were to tell me you know I don't think you can be friends with Cory anymore then I guess we I guess him and I aren't going to work cuz cuz my dad loves loves Cory my mom everybody he's a

Andrew Wilsongood what you told me is that your highest value is always going to be Cory it's not it's not cuz if it was we be together you got to think of it externally from you from the man's perspective your highest value is your

Andrew Wilsonbest friend so he's always going to feel like he's second great um to your best friend and why wouldn't he think that I can see that but that that wouldn't be the case I know I know that that may not

Andrew Wilsonbe the truth of the matter but if it's truly submission if it's truly submission then even when he's wrong right or you think he's wrong that is what submission is even when you think

Andrew Wilsonhe's wrong you still submit and that's where where I think this disconnect happens constantly between men and women when it comes to submission they don't really know what that means I think the pretext too is

Ashley Paolamaybe like this is an actual leader someone that we can trust someone that is worthy of being sub like submissive to I think if he's not then I mean that's the opposite of of worthy no no

Andrew Wilsonthat's the opposite listen let's let us assume for a moment you chose him because he had all these leadership skills that you just loved right you married him and you have submitted to him there might be years where he does

Andrew Wilsonthings you don't like right there might be years where you have a rocky relationship there might be years where you're working through this in marriage right and you disagree with most of his choices but that's what submission is

Andrew Wilsonthat's what submission in marriage is it's work right it's work and you don't want to abandon that because you think he's making all the wrong decisions because the truth is is that you could be making the wrong decisions right you

TTS Readerdon't know that's what submission means MH so uh can I something oh -200 donated $200 red one where are you from what is

TTS Readeryour relationship status what do you think of Brian what would you like to share with the audience today she answered all if you want to give a quick

Danielle (D)answer to this hi guys um my name is D my my relationship status is single I think Brian is um really cool really um

Danielle (D)to hisself I don't really know what's going on in his head but uh I try to figure it out and then I try not to

Danielle (D)offend and I try to learn um and what I'd like to put in I'd like to learn and I'd like to um add in whenever I can and

Danielle (D)it's hard when you have a panel of girls all talking at the same time and that's nobody's fault and I think it's beautiful that we're

Andrew Wilsonhaving even with him here Andrew here like I I I love the the yeah it's it's a it's a it's a Good Vibration right it's

Andrew Wilson46.4 Hertz going on right here we go look at the numbers vibrations happening everybody's happy I'm enjoying it and yeah if if you don't mind though um just

Andrew Wilsonreal quick so we can wrap this up before we moveing on Madison if you don't mind um did you ever see that movie Braveheart did you ever see that movie really you never saw it young okay so

Andrew Wilsontoo young braveart came out like 30 years ago yeah so what you people watch classic movies they still watch movies even if it's before their time not everybody does okay so in this movie

Andrew Wilsonessentially a nobleman in one scene he ends up having sex with a man's wife on the night of her of her wedding with him Jesus and uh he spends the whole rest of

Andrew Wilsonthe movie seething about it and uh This was done without consent of course and he spents the rest of the movie seething about it until he gets the opportunity to deal with this nobleman and when he

Andrew Wilsondeals with him it's very brutal it's not he it's not a good death for the nobleman let's put it that way but if you if you want that kind of relationship where a man would do that

Andrew Wilsonon your behalf he's not going to want to worry about [ __ ] Corey right he's not going to want to worry about Corey he's not going to want to be thinking about Cory he's going to want to be thinking

Andrew Wilsononly about you and knowing that you're thinking only about him okay that's that's all I'm saying I get you all right uh you had question where is Brian I was just going to say that you know

Ashley Paolahow you mentioned like we like we all have that one that kind of yeah yeah got away or whatever so someone that I was in a relationship with for 2 years this

Ashley Paolais when like 2015 14 he was really at about me not being friends with someone that I was friends with for so long that was a male and I was so rebellious against it I was literally saying

Ashley Paolaeverything that you were saying and you're saying and now I'm like dude like it's just it I it's a sacrifice that we're willing to make that wasn't like the only thing that was like the deal

Ashley Paolabreaker but looking back I'm like man he he was such a good man he had great leadership skills he was loving and but I was just looking at it from but I've been with this per or I've been I've known this guy for so long like it we we

Ashley Paolalike you know X YZ everything you're saying but looking back I'm just like man that that was like such a huge thing that I wish I regret like you know that's one of my regrets in life is just not submitting to that and letting go because that could have been someone

Ashley Paolathat I could had an amazing relationship and marriage with you know and like that was feminism poisoning your mind no 100% like it was like oh I you know it just sounds though that Corey is a little bit of a different situation you know he's a

Andrew Wilsonbrother you have to think brother he could be amazing my friend what women do they'll go they'll they'll they'll listen to this and when they see another woman faltering going you know what actually this makes a lot of sense and

Andrew Wilsonit could lead to an inroad to happiness they sabotage it it's self and they sabotage it as quickly as they possibly can for other women I don't know why they do this the toxic side of that's

Desiree Noelthe toxic side there's also a healthy side where you do need to evaluate what are my anchor relationships I would call Corey an anchor relationship a ride or

Desiree Noeldie he could a biological brother he's a different category than just somebody I've known for 10 years and he's not adding that much of my life and I'm going to pick this not for you to make

Desiree Noelthe determination in a committed relationship understand I'm just simply saying it's not a black it's not as black and white of an issue as it's trying to I think that if if on the one

Andrew Wilsonhand you say I want to have a man who's worth submitting to I think that that man uh is going to be somebody who you can consider High virtue and not only High virtue but is going to take care of

Andrew Wilsonall sorts of problems you don't even see you don't even want to worry about it he doesn't want to [ __ ] worry about you either he doesn't want to worry about [ __ ] he doesn't want to worry about [ __ ] Corey he doesn't want to worry about your relationship with your he

Andrew Wilsondoesn't want to worry about [ __ ] and you know how you can give him that great Peace of Mind by not doing it and that's the ultimate sign of respect and you know that type of man who you show that kind of respect to will do anything you

Danielle (D)know what give the give you the whole world on a platter what if he can make her happy by being best friends with Cory yeah exactly cuz Andrew wouldn't you want to be friends with about her

Andrew Wilsonhappiness see this is the disconnect it's not about her happiness it's about what is submission and the Cardinal and in when we're looking at this we're looking at what is the dynamic between

Andrew Wilsonmen and women which works best what is the dynamic for family that works best here's the dynamic in family that works best proven over and over and over again there so if you think about tradition

Andrew Wilsonthink of it in these terms experiments which worked that's tradition so here the family unit of a mom and a dad and children works better than anything else what do you mean by works better in an

Andrew Wilsoneconomic sense how does it outomes all outcomes for the man woman and children if they stay together in an intact family are universally

Desiree Noeluniversally better than any other single Dynamic we've ever seen universally well just because it's better than the other [ __ ] show doesn't mean it's

Andrew Wilsonoptimal it still doesn't mean that it's well well hang on if so unless you can give a counter to any family Dynamic that works better than the nuclear cross-generational family then you have

Desiree Noelno leg to stand on and so here's what I'm going to do tell me a family Dynamic which is better than a nuclear or cross-generational family just give me one I think a more tribal Society to be

Desiree Noelhonest with you is a better structure because because that way if a man dies if he goes through a mental break or something and he's no longer stable that woman has a social structure of Brothers

Desiree Noeluncles aunt whatever best friends who just right in and guess what those those kids have already gotten used to Uncle Corey and blah blah blah so they still already have that social structure with

Andrew Wilsonthe with the people who matter the most they blood okay I they bloodline the blood way more likely to step in and take care of is I have no blood men in my life who

Desiree Noelare healthy by any means hence why I've had a stream of not the best relationships cuz my dad was you're Prov his

Andrew Wilsonpoint the point theing woman like me beang you're making my point for me you're saying in inside of your own life absent this intact family unit you had

Desiree Noelworse outcomes that's my whole point no no that's not what I'm saying I had an intact family unit with very abusive people which led to well well wait I'm sorry did maybe I'm wrong I'm going to

Desiree Noelcheck my notes here did you say that your parents are still married no they're not still married but I came from I came from a my my biological parents never got married my mother when

Ashley PaolaI was three married my step you talking about you're proving his point girl you're proving my point you said that you have had so many broken relationships or men that were un healthy and it's

Desiree Noelbecause your family structure was broken as well your family I'm saying is I came from as much of a traditional structure

Desiree Noelas traditional there's a mom and there's a mom there's a mom there's a dad biologically there has to be a mom and Dad we're talking about a traditional unconditional love wouldn't have all

Desiree Noelthese rules of we can't be friends with Corey that's not unconditional love I hate to break it to you so we're dealing with you're bring the table hang on I hate to break it to you

Andrew Wilsonbut the truth is is that you what you've done here is you have demonstrated very well my point which is from broken homes

Desiree NoelBren Minds in a perfect world if a man met all of my needs and he was the most healthy godly man and he went to God

Desiree Noelevery moment of every day and made sure that he was factchecking himself and he had pastors or leaders or ministers grandpas who were healthy men and he was

Desiree Noelevery choice he was going to make he went and hashed it out with God and His elders and then he came and stepped it to me and said you know what I know that

Desiree NoelCory's your friend but I'm just getting a little vibe there you know can we talk about this and then he brings the wisdom it's not just he's coming to her and saying it's not just he's coming and

Andrew Wilsonsaying you can't be friends with him yeah okay but one point hang on hang on before we go on a diet tribe just like let's let's do an exchange good faith exchange just kind of one point at a time the point one

Andrew Wilsonthat you're talking about here again makes my point for me so you say listen me me me me me me me me me me me me me

Andrew Wilsonme if a if if a man will do X for me if me if me me me if also me and then on top of that a little bit more me with a

Andrew WilsonSprinkle of me with with a dash of me with a cherry on top of me then I will submit well at the end of the day I'm all happens hang on let me finish so

Andrew Wilsonthen what happens is you split off from what you consider traditionalism cuz that's not traditionalism tradition Trad Mission yeah I know but that's my point again you're not traditional and the

Desiree Noelexperiment of your broken family is exactly why you're in the now super happy that certain people live in a society and a world and a family system where traditional works perfectly fine

Desiree Noeland it's beautiful not all of us come from that blessing that's point no but I'm saying I I literally do not live in a safe

Desiree Noelenvironment well it's not going to be safe if the entire environment has to be revolve around me me me me me me me well guess what like I said I'm a mother I can't go down I have had men come in my

Desiree Noellife and promise me the world they're going to take take care of the kids they're going to pay the bills they're going to do this they're going to do that here's a marriage here's a ring here's a ceremony blah blah blah and

Andrew Wilsonthen I get into it and I agree to all of that and then [ __ ] goes really bad but I'm going to tell you I'm going to tell you the truth and this is this is not a

Andrew Wilsonfun truth but it is the truth stepf father myself okay I have step children myself the truth of the matter is is that unless you as a woman if you have children especially with another man and

Andrew Wilsonyou're asking a man to share his resources take care of those children submission becomes 10 times more important because what value are you bring to the table for them what

Desiree Noelvalue do you actually bring to the table I clean I [ __ ] really well I suck dick really well I get the bills paid take care of the kids no that's not true I'm

Andrew Wilsonout here I'm out here as do you think that women with no children probably Noone you wom without children sex listen do you think that it's really

Desiree Noelthat difficult to saate a man's sexual needs guess what a lot of these women have so many traumas they can't even get there they're scared of dicks I'm talking real talk here I'm out in the

Ashley Paolafield you don't believe your you have trauma I have had to heal through massive amounts of trauma but like even right now you said like all I have is myself when he was saying like me me me me me but that hold on hold on but right

Ashley Paolabut that is because you feel like all you have is yourself because you didn't have have a mom and you didn't have that structure you didn't have that support so you can't even you can't even hold on you can't even accept a husband to help you carry the burden that's not true

Danielle (D)however I've had a I've had my parents are married 50 years and they're happy they have more sex than anyone I know I love that amen and I feel the same way

Desiree Noelas me so exactly because we live in a particular soci some of us just don't fit these cookie cutter molds of how it's supposed to go as long as you

Andrew Wilsonyou both can make the relationship work the way you wanted to work they don't work though so here's the stats on polymer's relationship relationships

Desiree Noel95% of them fail 95% how many monogamous relationships do you think are actually very happy just because people stay together which is

Kwan Clarkonly what one and two Stay Together happiness how many are not even about happiness to be saf and the commitment if you especially if you made it under God I I've been through [ __ ] hell and

Ashley Paolaat this point I'm just here to have a good time so see but you say that now but when you're 80 and remember I'm not going to say you but a lot of people that think like you they're going to be 80 and alone and they're going that's

Desiree Noelnot true they're going to have their kids they thetics are there friend with benefits they might have a spouse they might have two spouses you guys are I know but you're you're say because your

Andrew Wilsonall this that's not the reality hang guys one at a time hang on hang on let let let her give her Point uh to the G in the center go ahead this is one Western not you you're not the in the center the G in the center let her let her let her

Ashley Paolagive her point you can respond I promise go ahead no all I'm saying is that you can think of all these realities in your head like oh well that could happen that could happen but that's not reality of

Ashley Paolawhat really happens you know how we were designed let her finish her Point hang on go ahead um what keep going just go speak speak speak all right so yeah so saying all these things but the reality is even

Ashley Paolalike if you look at the statistics feminists that are they're alone and they're they they have they're on on medications anti-depressants like they hate the PO there's so many [ __ ] variables that go into this you can't

Desiree Noelsay it's because go look at other societies that aren't running can I finish my point though what is 2 plus two let's let's start there cuz if you don't if we're not at that same

Desiree Noelanswer what is 2 plus 2 what in MA 2 arithmetic but are we talking alra just like a piece like a piece of paper with

Desiree Noelthe number representation of a two okay how I add age earlier 1 plus one is two cups there we go great job cups okay

Brian Atlascool uh let let me we got to get caught up on a couple chats here okay all right Maddie I'm going to have you read these go ahead and a couple the Epistles LMAO

Madisonis an underground jenz band who sings in Vibes tongues and word salad I like it I like it let's go with that Andrew let's go with that we'll go

Madisonwith that sounds good sounds good I like Andrew thank you various crazy people I like you too Andrew go ahead I'm a I'm a likable guy I I was super wet when I

Madisonwent Blondie in the brown shirt needs to shut the f up and stop injecting nonsense into every convers ation no one cares oh my God who the hell Nick you

Brian Atlasgot to fix it's behind Andrew do you do you see what I'm talking about on Center Zoom you're the layers are [ __ ] got it got it got

Brian Atlasit go ahead Maddie yeah Nick no I'm kidding I love you Nick how you doing just you can fix it hold on go to Center Zoom can you

Madisonexpl twitch alerts pull it drag it up above Discord okay go ahead can you explain what the fabric of American culture is made of in your

Ashley Paolaopinion uh who's this this came in 34 minutes ago so I don't know who it's direct fantastic question I think um it's based off of I know this is like debatable but Christian values it's a

Ashley PaolaChristian Nation um the Declaration of Independence this the whole founding fathers although there's Darkness to it there's always going be Darkness we're in in the world um but but a lot of it

Ashley Paolais based off of Christian values um but it we've we have removed God so much from this culture that now we're a Godless society and people are just running off of no no values it's just their truth whatever feels right

Ashley Paolawhatever is going with the flow whatever is just the vibe right now and there's no real foundation so I feel like that was the American culture and we've moved away from it but I believe there's a

MadisonRevival happening as well that's my opinion okay go ahead Madison read this one for Andrew just for argument sake extreme polygamy such as was practiced

Andrew Wilsonfor the first 500,000 years ago of human prehistory kept us alive during the ice ages no I not only do I not believe it but that is not what the archaeological

Brian Atlasevidence supports nor the DNA evidence that's not what it supports okay thank you law paladins appreciate it moving over to Jess here

Andrew Wilsonso Jess in our hold on my notes just bugged out uh okay you're but assuming even it did even if it did let's let us assume that if you really believe in

Andrew Wilsonevolution as being a foundation uh towards uh you know thing in society which we're evolving towards the polygamy or polygamy is not the order of the day but monogamy is so we

Desiree Noelevolve to be monogamous so even if I grant your argument who cares Andrew you know what that's a great way to put it and that's what I had discovered ju this is a great point

Desiree Noeland it's simple you have 20 seconds make your point I think monogamy is something to build up to not something that you should start out as that's the only point I was making you should evolve

Andrew Wilsoninto the place of monogamy that's all you're not going to evolve in 80 years evolution is a small it's a tiny minute process Happ thousands it could take you it could take you a year to evolve into

Andrew Wilsonmonogamy with somebody that's all I'm saying everybody so until then be promiscuous to destroy your chances of monogamy me that seems like it's counterproductive I love sex cool yeah I

Andrew Wilsonknow your chances of being in a monogamous relationship greatly decrease moreis you are at least for somebody who's valuable what sucks about we're going to

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Brian Atlas2016 thank you for the prime man appreciate it guys and uh thank you so much all right so moving on over to Jess Jess you said you're in a relationship but you wrote in your pre show notes

TTS Readeryou're definitely on Rocky terms are things Rocky in your relationship and this is you have how many kids again just one this is with the father of your kids right ules the Pagan donated

TTS Reader$200 some way to raise your children blonde frequency you twist the adage prepare your child for the road not he rod for the child Thomas froze wow that's some Shakespeare [ __ ]

Brian Atlasthank you man appreciate it thank you thank you uh we got 200 bucks for Cliff Notes thank you man appreciate it uh so you're on Rocky terms what's going on with your relationship um it's just

Jessicawe started off really quickly um in terms of before I met him I was single for 6 years I was celibate for 3 years before I met him and when I met him I

Jessicatold him precisely what it was that I wanted and I felt like I was lied to on his end as to what it was as to what it was that he wanted um I'm more

Jessicadefinitely of the traditional type in in a relationship and he's definitely much more liberal and that's something that I

Brian Atlasguess was kept from me when I was um getting into a relationship with him liberal in what way liberal in a sense uh politically or in terms of his views

Jessicaon relationship Dynamics yes yes so you guys 50/50 type thing or what do you yeah um I'm very um I'm I'm moderate I'm conservative in some aspects and in I'm

Jessicaliberal in others um I'm not completely close-minded I can see another person's perspective um but I was very open with

Jessicahim with what I wanted and I feel like I was he when I found out he cheat cuz he cheated on me when I found out that he

Jessicacheated on me I completely um left him alone cuz I was 24 at the time didn't I was like I'm not here for this or whatever but okay then I found out I was

Brian Atlaspregnant so that kind of tied this down right now okay um so oh Natalia thank you for the gifted 20

Brian Atlasmemberships you're a legend appreciate it thank you thank you you said you disagree with something about the show the degrading can you do you care to

Jessicaelaborate no I guess just in in terms of just how with certain guests um how they um they address the women yes yes can

Kwan Clarkyou give me an example um calling them calling them [ __ ] or get the [ __ ] out like there's a certain way you could talk to people to get them to understand that what they're saying

Jessicaor doing is wrong is probably what she's man well I'm asking her not you so the words ought to come out of her mouth go ahead I think in terms of let's say I

Jessicaguess specifically um Chase for example I think you know just in terms oh God but um just I guess in terms of how I don't agree with um the whole he's a whole Christian in man and everything I

Jessicamean I'm Catholic I'm so I just feel like there's a way to get to people you don't have to agree with them but you also just have to do

Jessicait in a sense of um compassion to get to someone in terms

Andrew Wilsonof how do I explain this correctly well um compassion takes multiple forms so compassion if some occasionally well not even occasionally depending depending on

Andrew Wilsonwho you're talking to uh sometimes language is going to seem vulgar it's going to seem brutal uh you are entering into verbal Jiu-Jitsu when you're trying to change a person's mind but outside of that scope you're trying to change the

Andrew Wilsonmind of thousands upon thousands of people who watch as well so Chase uniquely has had millions of people see his Clips have gone viral all over the

Andrew WilsonInternet so he feels like he has a responsibility to explain himself um to you in a way which you are going to maybe it's jarring or maybe it's it

Andrew Wilsonsounds brutal but it's a way to not only get his message to you but to millions of other people that seems reasonable to me now I can I can understand where it could it can feel like it's degrading

Jessicabut there's some people who it's going to always seem degrading to if they're on the other end of the ey when you're trying to wake them up right I I understand that but I just feel like there's a way to deliver a message to to

Jessicapeople and other ways but I mean like I said [Music] I'm open everyone has different forms of communication and how they say things um I just personally okay well I'd like to

Brian Atlasget into specifics here because first off uh Chase has not been on the show in something like eight or nine months he hasn't been on I'm talking like about

Brian Atlaslike the previous Clips I I I've rewatched a bunch of the clips so that's right well it's hard because one Chase isn't here he also hasn't been on the show in my 9 months so I can't really if there's something I could try to speak

Brian Atlason his behalf if you can point me to something specifically that chase has said that you disagree with is that Sovereign bro no go Sovereign BR is that

Jessicaokay stop why don't you answer the question go ahead um I can't really pinpoint a certain one I mean I could if you'd like um what it's just I'm just talking about

Jessicathe Deliverance of certain things like okay what specifically has Chase delivered that you disagree with not what he says cuz I agree with with the things that he says I just what did he

Jessicawhat did he say and what did he say and how did he say it I think like I said just the tone of it just just in general just what was his

Brian Atlastone I can't I you don't even remember the topic at hand I like I said I condescending or maybe like I said I just

JessicaI it's just it just depends like like on how you you speak to the person and and in terms of you're um you're a Catholic right yes have you ever seen your priest spit on the

Andrew Wilson[Music] devil no no you never seen that no no you've never seen them do a harsh

Andrew Wilsonrebuke no you've never seen your priest do a harsh rebuke ever no you've never seen your priest do a harsh rebuke towards the Demonic ever no not once no

Andrew Wilsonbut what kind of priests don't even rebuke the

Andrew Wilsondevil I'm not sure how to like well you as a Catholic in your tradition you believe in the Demonic you believe in what's called demonic Obsession demonic obsession is the first

Andrew Wilsonpathway in cathol ISM towards demonic possession it's the most common Obsession priests often in the Catholic church will give harsh rebukes towards the Demonic especially for those who are

Jessicasuffering from Obsession so yes in in my church well um in my Catholic Church my the my my priest he usually always is very um he

Jessicalikes to keep everything light he will always um just make sure that everyone's awake cuz he has this joke where like everyone falls asleep sleep in church where and people go to Catholic church and they fall asleep or they're falling

Andrew Wilsonso he basically always tries to keep it um yes all right well I'm just going to but if you're a Catholic you have exorcists in your church they exercise

Andrew Wilsondemons out of people that's what they do you have a whole branch in Catholicism called Exorcist do you think that they go and they're just like nice to demonically possess people do you think that when they're rebuking demons

Andrew Wilsonthey're like now listen sweetie I don't want to hurt your feelings but I really need that demon to come out can we just can we okay now wait Fred we don't want to upset her we're just trying to get the demon out we're just going to sprinkle little holy water on our head

Jessicado you think that that's how they do that like I said that's just my perspective on how to say things to people and in terms of me when I'm talking to someone about something and

Jessicaeven if I don't um agree with them or I just don't it's just I just look at it differently I'm just saying the tone of it that's it okay I need Chase is not here I need a specific example like I

Jessicasaid I don't have a specific example how did he say it then you don't even need to use what he said for beta I gu just how did he say it I guess just when I have a conversation with people I don't raise my voice at anyone I try to always

Jessicaum stay leveled um just just to really um be able to have both of our points uh stemmed across you know like I okay well let me just defend Chase Chase is

Brian Atlasactually one of the most respectful guests we've had he typically doesn't raise his voice sometimes he can be uh animated or charismatic but he's uh typically very polite and respectful now

Brian Atlasit's possible look he's been on multiple episodes these episodes are hours long I haven't committed to memory every single thing that chase has said and I haven't committed to memory the way every single

Brian Atlasway he's said it or his tone but I mean at least to my recollection generally speaking Chase tends to have been always very respectful to the

Kwan Clarkguests yeah I was like that what's her name Kiko I would say she she's she's disrespectful I say she's raised her voice that is a good point I would say that now what what is interesting about oh sorry go ahead do you want to Contin no I was just going to say that's

Kwan Clarksomething that I also notice a lot with the the liberal side is if you say something that is factually proven they get upset they get angry and then they get violent and I would and I noticed that with her when he would say

Kwan Clarksomething that she doesn't like he's like man [ __ ] you I can't believe said no you're an [ __ ] like that's insane like we can have a conversation trigger it's and true totally true never I've never seen that on a conservative side

Alexto be honest and I see that a lot on that side and it's just not it's not I can argue with that actually because I see a lot of that unconservative side a lot of people physically shut down when

Alexyou bring up specific issues and they keep going around in circles not even answering the question nobody no side is immune to this s thing exactly

Brian Atlasexactly an emotional if we I think like let me ask you a question who's pushing political correctness more conservatives or

Alexliberals liberals no hold on this is a question directed at her go ahead okay okay so specifically political correctness liberals I am not 100%

Alexliberal I I do want to say that I not I do not consider myself liberal I'm more um not quite in between but I understand both sides let me ask you another question when it comes to Friendship who

Brian Atlasdo you think is more willing to be friends with somebody who has a different political opinion than them is a conservative more likely to be willing to be friends with somebody who's liberal or is a liberal more like willing to be friends with somebody

Alexwho's conservative in my personal experience liberals really in my personal experience well here's here's my view of this and I tend to think I'm a bit more moderate

Brian Atlaswhen conser conservatives typically will look at liberals and see it's more so a difference of opinion and worldview liberals will paint conservatives as evil typically and so there's a pretty

Brian Atlasbig different and they've actually I believe Nick and you maybe find a there was a study on this I do think that cons they found that conservatives were more willing to be friends with liberals okay then the

Alexreverse which again everyone has their own personal experience I cannot speak for everybody obviously um in my experience I have a lot of conservative friends I have a lot of liberal friends

Alexand I've seen them interact with each other and I've seen them having friendly discussions and friendly debates where everyone just agrees to disagree but they have things in common and all of

Alexthe issues between both sides are the same issues they're just handled from different perspectives and different view anyways so well going back going

Brian Atlasback to this so so when it comes to the uh tone policing stuff something that's interesting is is that if a woman says

Brian Atlassomething disrespectful and it uh perhaps flusters a man and the man responds M like Andrew says matches her

Brian Atlasenergy T people will typically disregard the uh precipitating factor in the man's belligerence they'll kind of

Brian Atlascast aside when a woman is aggressive and then they'll singularly look at the man's response without any regard to how the woman might have might

Desiree Noelhave uh what's the word uh she might have instigated it or added toxicity to the conversation right and actually I think speaking true so speaking to to your thing I don't know if you're

Brian Atlasreferencing this clip where I kicked off this only fans girl who had been absolutely obnoxious the entire night she came on to troll and as she was leaving I was kicking her off she said

Brian Atlasgood luck with your dead ass podcast in which I called her a [ __ ] and then I made some you know comments about that's fair though that was a fair exchange

Desiree Noelwasen like Andrew and I I call him an [ __ ] he kind of does his it's okay it's banter it's you're right you were giving me back my own medicine I give you back your medicine it's there's to

Brian Atlasbe and then there's just being straight up rude for no reason CRI criticisms I received in that situation where she had been trolling the entire night she' been

Brian Atlasdisrespectful the entire night the segment got hold on stop the segment got clipped and it shows me you know she says a couple things to me I say some

Brian Atlasthings to her uh she kind of instigated in my view like with what Andrew says I'll match People's Energy I'll typically try to be look sometimes you get frustrated lose your cool whatever

Brian Atlastypically though I'm not going to to be insulting to towards somebody unless they've been insulting towards me first I'm not perfect it doesn't but most of the time I try to keep a calm head in this case though a lot of people despite

Brian Atlasthe clip including the parts in which she was at fault nobody seems to acknowledge that somebody can kind of ah it's not it's not quite it's almost like there's a prejudice against a masculine

Desiree Noelpresentation of aggression there is like a didn't need to be you didn't need to stay level how it as long long as you were right for example there's many

Desiree Noelwomen who are physically abusing their male Partners yet they don't they don't get the same for example I have had domestic issues I'm sorry I'm going to

Madisonmove it on okay MADD can you read this DNA says 17 women reproduced for every one man only 8,000 years ago we're regressing back to that monogamy only

Madisonexisted for a short period of time and it came with religion explain why it's o please somebody that's a good one I'm excited for an answer I don't Blondie

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