2 WALK OFFS?! MEGA Woke Feminists DEBATE Brian?! 3 Men In ONE NIGHT?! HORSE GIRLS! | Dating Talk 276

Date: 2026-01-05

Duration: 9h 50m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMichelle Beriv >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Shantel(guest)

SPEAKER_03Caitlyn(guest)

SPEAKER_04Leah(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Cece(guest)

SPEAKER_11Talia(guest)

SPEAKER_12Anya(guest)

SPEAKER_13Lem(guest)

SPEAKER_14Michelle Beriv(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves

Key MomentLeah reveals she owns 18 horses, shocking the panel

“I have um 18 right now.”

ControversyCaitlyn declares herself a communist and anti-capitalist while working as a stripper

ControversyCaitlyn says she wouldn't be sad if Jeff Bezos was guillotined

“I wouldn't be sad about it.”

QuoteLeah reveals she has made seven figures in a year on OnlyFans

“Yes.”

ControversyTalia says 50/50 chance Trump rounds up trans and gay people

Key MomentTalia argues you can't be racist toward white people in America

AgreementCaitlyn concedes women can be sexist toward men on an individual level

“Honestly, you're right. I'm going to concede with that.”

ControversyCaitlyn admits she giggled at the Charlie Kirk assassination video

“I giggled a little bit at the video.”

ControversyTalia agrees she would support violent overthrow of Trump administration

OtherWalk-off #1: Lem leaves due to autism-related anxiety/overstimulation

Key MomentBrian rates Caitlyn 5/10 after she rated herself 9.75. She gets upset.

OtherWalk-off #2: Talia leaves to take care of Lem. Brian gives speech about weak constitution of the left.

TopicBrian launches his 7-point oral sex defense, the longest segment of the show

QuoteAnya says being on the Whatever podcast is better than sex

“This is so much more riveting and feels better in my mind than sex ever has.”

QuoteBrian: last time he performed oral was during the Bush administration (2007-2008)

ControversyCece reveals ex physically abused her on train in Japan - punching and biting over jealousy

Key MomentCece's 8-month revenge plan to steal shared Amazon FBA business from abusive ex

ControversyCaitlyn reveals three-men-in-one-night story

OtherBrian announces he's contemplating episode 304 being the final Whatever podcast episode

Topics Discussed

Show Intro & Flake Statistics

Brian's intro with 2025 flake stats (1,588 total). Hiring helmet girl sidekick and soldier sidekick.

Guest Introductions

Caitlyn (21, stripper/communist), Talia (25, leftist), Anya (19, OF/conservative), Cece (26, USC nursing), Lem (18, autism/addictive studies), Leah (27, OF/18 horses), Shantel (18, marketing), Michelle (27, receptionist).

Leah's Horse Empire

Owns 18 horses on 30 acres, $10K/month maintenance. Born in a barn. Flips racehorses. TikTok is entirely butt content.

Caitlyn's Communist Ideology

Declares herself communist/anti-capitalist while stripping. Debate on property under communism, Oprah's mansion, guillotines for capitalists.

Immigration Debate

Heated multi-guest debate. Talia/Caitlyn against deportation. Anya/Cece (whose parents legally immigrated) for enforcement. Caitlyn/Talia would side with foreign invaders against US.

Trump as Fascist/Stalin

Talia believes 50/50 chance Trump rounds up trans people. Compares to Stalin. Would support violent overthrow.

Can You Be Racist Toward White People?

Talia argues racism requires power - can't be racist toward white people. Brian challenges with hypotheticals. Caitlyn eventually concedes individual-level sexism exists.

Walk-Off #1: Lem Leaves

Lem (18, autistic) leaves due to anxiety/overstimulation.

Looks Ratings

Caitlyn rates herself 9.75, Brian rates her 5. She gets upset, says it contributes to male loneliness epidemic.

Walk-Off #2: Talia Leaves

Talia leaves to drive Lem home. Brian gives speech about weak constitution of the left.

Oral Sex Marathon Debate

Brian's 7-point argument for not performing oral sex. Hasn't since 2007-2008 (Bush administration). Panel debates if it's 'a little gay' not to.

Cece's Japan Abuse Story

Ex punched and bit her on train in Japan. He abused animals. She executed 8-month plan to steal shared Amazon FBA business.

Body Count Reveals

Leah: 39 (keeps list on phone). Caitlyn: had hoe phase of 10 in a year. Cece: 3.

Rapid Fire Trivia

Shantel initially says Africa when asked to name a country (it's a continent). Math struggles (9+9+9=29).

Caitlyn's Three-in-One-Night

Slept with 2 men, went to third guy's place covered in baby oil. Third found first's magnum condom wrapper.

Possible End of Whatever Podcast

Brian announces he's contemplating episode 304 (mid-July) being the final show.

Transcript

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Brian Atlas>> sheets. Egyptian [laughter] sheets. 300 thread count or whatever the [ __ ] it is is maybe that's really bad. 1500 [laughter]

Brian Atlas>> uh thread count and you're just sleeping there and then and then you hear uh uh special for

Anya>> special for FBI open up and then uh the [ __ ] paratrooper [laughter] >> I'll be living >> I feel like it it bring you closer together cuz you're going through this

Anyareally insane thing together it's like it's like Bonnie and Clyde Bonnie and Clyde you guys are criminals in this together >> I A question. How long would you stay with

Anyayour boyfriend if he was going to jail? Like, how long? >> Over what? >> Yeah, >> depends. >> How long have we been together? How long is he going to stay? >> You've been together 3 years.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> And he's gone away for five for tax evasion. >> Are we rich? >> Stupid. >> Did he do a good job? >> Yeah. [laughter] Did he

Brian Atlas>> do you say >> how long? Okay, let's just say let's say the crime it's not like some crazy [ __ ] like he's [ __ ] abusing children or something. >> Uh let's just I don't know. It's um >> tax evasions. I would

Brian Atlas>> uh yeah like maybe >> how long would you >> stay loyal and stay with the guy your your man in prison? >> If he treated me good and we were otherwise happy, I would I would stay loyal >> and we'd like

Caitlyn>> Definitely. >> Yeah. Well, >> visits. >> Yeah. What if it was 20 years though? You you'd stay >> 20 years. >> 20 years. >> Like if there's no chance of him getting out. Nah, I couldn't I don't have the patience. Um >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> How long? >> Listen, I I'll visit. >> No, no, but you you you got to stay. >> But I'm No, >> it's over. >> Yeah, I'll still >> like three months. He's doing a three-month bid. >> Three months is fine.

Brian Atlas>> Six-month bid. >> I think I could do that. >> One year bid >> in the can. How great is this man? >> Look,

Brian Atlashe followed the code of Amera. He didn't rat on his his bros. >> He didn't rat. >> Well, >> I don't know what the [ __ ] I don't know. >> Um, that might give him points. >> Two. Two years.

Anya>> Two years. >> Two years in the can. You lost >> in the clinker. >> No. >> How long? >> I mean, probably a decent bit. Physical >> last forever. [laughter] >> Physical stuff is >> Oh, You don't even have to. You can just talk to him on the phone. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> And you know where he is. >> He's not like cheating on you or >> Well, >> how long? >> That's not true. >> Well, >> they be getting jailwise. >> He's probably getting >> J. What? >> How long do you stay? How long would you

Cecetolerate your man being in prison for? >> Wait, what? What? What's he in for? Like how many years? Nothing. Tax fraud. >> Well, just if it's tax fraud, >> what what's the longest you would wait for a man who's in prison? Like you you

Shantelknow >> But here's the thing. Who's opening the door for me? >> Five. >> I don't open my >> Okay. 5 years. >> 5 years. What about you? >> That have to be a short time. >> I don't think I would leave, but it would I would like really hate that circumstance.

Shantel>> Yeah. >> What about you? How long would you >> I mean, if he goes to prison, what is it meant to be? Like I don't know. Another guy. >> Just so 3 months. You're not >> Okay. Three months maybe. But if it's

Brian Atlas>> six months, >> no. >> One year. No. >> No. >> What about you? You're okay. Your husband, he goes to prison. How long do you what what's is there a cut off?

Michelle Beriv>> Well, well, >> has he been to prison? >> No. No. No. [laughter] >> Actually, there's nothing wrong with a happy ending sometimes. >> Wait, wait, I had this. So, I had I

Michelle Berivactually had this conversation with him just hypothetically and I was saying like >> he said if I went to prison, he's like I'll get a happy ending massage and he and it's like vice versa. It's not a

Brian Atlas>> Whoa. Hold on. >> Wait. Why? >> No. [laughter] No. No. You can't. Wait. He get a hand job from a guy. >> Wait. Happy ending. >> Like a happy ending massage >> in prison. >> No. No. I'm I'm

Michelle Beriv>> Wait. What? >> Wait. I confused. She's tired. >> Okay. I'm sorry. >> No. I had I can't. >> How long would you wait for him? [laughter] >> I'm getting I had the conversation with

Michelle Berivhim and I said if it was vice versa. So to not be hypocritical, I guess I'd wait like a year and then >> and then Oh, and then you would get happy ending massages.

Shantel[laughter] >> So that was their agreement. They agreed that like if >> like she could go to a massage parlor and the guy could like rubber >> the agreement was that if he if you went to prison, he could get happy ending [laughter] massages. Wait a minute.

Shantel>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> No sex. No sex. But he could get a happy ending. No, but how long would you wait? >> Don't they usually like have sex at the end of those though? It's not just like a >> I thought you told me you could get a

Brian Atlashappy ending from a dude in prison. No, [laughter] no, no. I'm like, no. You got to just You just got to jerk it. You can't let somebody else do that. >> You can't be like I know you would be all over that [ __ ] >> I'll be all over

Brian Atlas>> like if you were in jail, you would be going >> I'd be lesbianism. >> Lesbianism. That's my philosophy. >> All right. Um >> true. Here, I'm going to get into some

Brian Atlasof the pre-show notes here. Uh, let's see. Okay, we're going to do your notes. Actually, no, we'll do somebody else's notes because we already did, but we'll do your notes in a bit.

Brian Atlas>> Anya, uh, okay, you're Christian, but we already talked about that. Um, you say women rarely go for what? >> Oh, these are notes from like my first time I went on. >> Oh, maybe they were. Yeah. Did we cover

Anyathem already? >> Well, the first time I went on. >> Yeah. Well, I'll just say you said women rarely go for the good guy. >> Yeah, they usually go for um what did I say it was like the instant gratification guy where it's like you

Anyaget the stuff that's instant gratification even though he might not be the best scenario from the beginning. >> Yeah. Okay. The guys that like pan out

Brian Atlaslater on that you kind of have to build, >> those are usually the best ones. Um, I don't really have any notes for you aside from the horse stuff and all your content is your butt.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> And I asked you said you have you're technically with someone but it's open concept. >> So like you're you're sleeping with him, he's sleeping with other people. You're sleeping with other people.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. It's just complicated. >> It's complicated for five years. >> Yeah. >> You think you can marry this guy? >> I don't want to get married. >> Do you want kids? Yes. >> But okay. [clears throat] I mean, you

Brian Atlascan have kids without getting married. Uh, okay. Michelle, you're married. I noticed you post your husband a little bit, but not very much. >> Not too often.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Uh, you your Instagram is not that bad, but there is like some kind of revealing stuff. Is your husband okay with that? >> Yeah, he's fine with it. >> Yeah. Sometimes he takes some of the pictures. He'll help me with the

Brian Atlascaption. >> Okay. Uh, Shantel. Shantel. Shantel. Shantel. >> Shant [snorts] Shant. Shantel. >> People call me both. Shantel and Chantel. >> Oh, either one's fine. >> Yeah. >> Uh, okay. Your Instagram bio, you say,

Brian Atlas"Thank you, God." Uh, you have the cross tattoo. You said, "Oh, here. This is interesting. A lot of guys are surprised they're not hitting on the first date." >> Yeah. You'd be surprised. Like, they're

Shantellike they're shocked. Like, what do you mean? Like, I pay for a dinner. I can't like get >> That's lame. That's lame. >> Yeah. I'm like, I don't even know why. >> Wait, they say that want that? No. like you know facial like just hide a

Shantelprostitute like no it's it's horrible it's because like when they ask like >> like they're like they take off their pants in the car or something like that and they look at me. It's true. You guys don't understand like it happens especially cuz I'm younger and I deal with like more immature guys. >> What?

Shantel>> Yeah. >> Wait guys just be >> get to the car and just >> Oh yeah. As soon as you get in the car, they're they're putting their hand on your thigh. It's like >> or like they put my hand and then they look at me and then I'm like, "What?" And they're like, "What?"

Brian Atlas>> What are you going to do? What you going to do with that? >> You want to go to [laughter] the back? You want You want to get in the back? >> Like I'm not a >> Can you I've seen some funny videos where women will like roleplay like what like how guys,

Brian Atlas>> but not not like that stuff, but just like when they go for the make out or whatever. That's kind of funny. >> Oh, they're like the glaze of the eye. Like I can't do it. I'm not a fan of this. >> Oh, >> but like not in a good way.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, it's like you know what that means. >> Awkward gri >> [ __ ] I don't know. Uh yeah, that's that's all that that you described is pretty weird though. Um

Brian Atlas>> but like what if they're >> Maybe this is a oxymoron. What if the guy is a gentleman but trying to hit? >> No. You know what I mean? >> Not on the first date.

Brian Atlas>> Like he's not being weird like he's not all grabby or you know that means unzipping his pants but he's like excuse me my dear [laughter] >> would you like some penis? >> If it just kind of happens naturally then >> like would that fly better?

Shantel>> You'd have to say yes to that. >> No that you would >> if you like that birthday. >> I would love some my sir >> cuz then that's just acting. But I think >> I wish to propose to you. I I you have

Shantelto assume that people who like you or want to [laughter] date you are attracted to you. >> So obviously like he wants to have sex with you. >> I actually that would be fun to role play just one time with a girl.

Brian Atlas>> We would do it >> be like and now I am [laughter] >> I am in putting the penis inside of your [laughter] vagina. I don't know. That'd be funny.

Caitlyn>> Maybe that'd be cringe though. I don't know. whenever sometimes I think I've done it like >> I am about to reach climax. >> I couldn't take it seriously. Come on in. The water's nice. That's my go-to.

Caitlyn>> What's that? >> I said sometimes I say come on in. The water's nice. Right before >> Oh my god. Oh my god. Never do that. [laughter] >> The water is nice.

Brian Atlas>> The water's nice. Come on in. The water's nice. >> Hey, look. you know, it's the thought that counts. But, um, so, okay. Is that So, the the guys want to Have you ever hit on the first date?

Shantel>> No. And that happened recently, too. Like, literally two days ago, like a guy like >> two days ago, >> he zipped. He unzipped. >> He was in the car with me. And then he made me cancel an other plan with one of my friends. And then he was like, "I'm

Shantelso full on serious with you. Like, I like need you in my life. I want like you're 100% and like why wait?" You know? Yeah. Literally love bombing. And then when I said no to him, he took me home. >> He's like, "I didn't get what I wanted." He got me back.

Shantel>> Was he supposed to take >> We were We were supposed to go get some food. We were supposed to go >> compound or something or >> No, like he literally like after he realized he wasn't getting what he wanted, he just Okay, >> I'll go home.

Shantel>> But you had plans though, right? >> Yeah, I had plans and then he made me cancel them and it was with another guy too. He made me call He thought you were going to have sex with him instead of the >> plans. You also wrote why guys always

Shantelfeel entitled to hit after buying [ __ ] for you. So like dinner. >> Yeah. You guys like if it's like 20 bucks like I'll give you the 20 bucks and they get mad about it like Yeah. What the hell?

Brian Atlas>> That's weird. Look, I think you know as a guy if you're a little >> you know you wanted to she didn't and you're frustrated just because of that. But if you do this like transactional thing where it's like, well,

Brian Atlaslook, I think you should be chill in general, but if it's like, "Oh, I bought you dinner." That's so weird. That's so weird. >> I need a mansion. >> You can't do that. You can't do that. You need a mansion. >> Buy me a car.

Shantel>> Then you'll hit That's >> 100%. I want a Corvette C8 >> pink. >> What about like a >> brown rims? What? What about a um

Brian Atlaslike a Oh my god. Why am I What is the term for a car that is kaput? >> [ __ ] box. >> A hoopy. >> A lemon.

Brian Atlas>> A hooptie. >> Hoopy. [laughter] >> I don't know. What if he What if he got you like a uh No, the term for a car that's just completely done. >> No, I need I need a nice car. >> No, it's something else. >> It needs to have a C8. Oh,

Brian Atlas>> not a beater. >> Not a beater, not a >> lemons. It's >> Come on, chat. Beater. No, not beater. What's the term for it? [laughter] Beater. Beater. Clunker. Not clunker.

Brian Atlas>> Clunker. >> It's not salvage. Junker. >> I don't think it's scrap. >> Salvage. >> Sal. Oh, yeah. Yes. Thank you. Who was that? W Lobster.

Brian Atlas>> I should have known that. Um, >> if a guy bought you a salvage title car, would you let him hit? >> It's a C8.

Shantel>> Do you know what a salvage title is? >> Wait, like it's not working like or it's stolen? >> No. >> No. Salvage title. It's It's like basically the car's >> Oh, then no. What's the point?

Shantel>> Well, it's a car. >> No, it needs to be a C8 Corvette. Maybe brown gold rims. >> I don't know if she >> She knows what she wants, guys. I don't know if that's going to Okay. Well, um, >> manifest.

Brian Atlas>> Also, on one of your IG reels says the following. >> You I'll prompt it. You finish it. >> Penny wise, [laughter] >> I know which one it is. >> You finish it. >> What? >> Penny Wise ain't special.

Shantel>> Penny Wise ain't special. I eat kids, too. >> That's funny. >> So, are you talking about Is that oral sex, >> you guys? It was funny. It was a joke. You know how much hate I got in my DMs just for that? >> That's funny,

Shantel>> guys. It was funny. It's a joke. >> You're talking about oral sex. >> It's funny. >> But no, but it's it's an oral sex joke. >> No comment. Yeah. >> You're a Christian. >> No. Who said >> you can't have that? >> No.

Shantel>> Who Who said that? >> I'm saying like I don't like eat kids. Like I don't I'm not a cannibal. >> Like no, of course not. I'm not a cannibal. I don't eat kids. >> You got a cross tattoo. >> I don't eat kids. >> Thank you, God. In your bio. Hey, hey,

Brian Atlashey. >> You [snorts] You got to sucking dick >> swallowing sperm >> thing. You can't Oh, no. You can't do that. >> It's about cannibalism. It's not about swallowing kids. >> Um,

Brian Atlas>> and some of your photos a little >> like what? No, all my photos are fine. Little risque for a Christian. Little risque for a Christian. >> Go ahead and show them. We'll see. Go ahead and show them.

Brian Atlas>> Look, they're not that bad, but the titties are out. >> What? for a Christian. >> Like the the titty >> the cleavage cleavage. >> Yeah, the cleavage titties are Yeah, I'm just saying,

Brian Atlas>> guys. Christians aren't Muslims. >> Yeah, but >> they're not atheists either, >> guys. >> Just saying. And you say you're Orthodox. Come on. Leave me alone. >> Come on. >> Leave me alone. >> I'm just saying. You know, we got to clean it. You got to clean it up a

Shantellittle bit. >> Well, well, Christians can also like we're still human. Like we still make mistakes and we still like sin and all. Like the only >> You got to fix it. [laughter] Like Nick said, you got to fix it.

Anya>> You guys leave me alone. I'm 18. >> It's okay. >> I'm trying to get roasted if you want to roast me. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah, you scared the [ __ ] out of me.

Brian Atlas>> That was crazy. >> Sorry, guys. One of our [ __ ] posters. >> God, was it >> How did that even happen? >> I don't know. It's just the >> Are you sure it's not a ghost? It It is actually a ghost. We have the ghost of a

CeceGustavo. >> It's the ghost of that bird. >> That bird from June. I got to get out of here. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. [laughter] >> Yeah, sometimes. >> I think you went away somewhere.

Brian Atlas>> Yokust was trying to attack me. >> Uh Talia. Oh, that's the girl who left. We already covered most of her stuff though. >> I should have sent in more pre show notes. I didn't know we >> rude. Uh Cece.

Cece>> Yeah, >> you Okay. We talked about the Japan thing. Mhm. >> But you guys had a business together. >> Yeah, we had a business together. >> What was the business? >> It was doing like Amazon FBA. So once I

Cecefound out that he was cheating and he did the physical abuse, all of that, I did an 8-month plan to screw him over. >> Oh. >> So basically, um, we I I basically told

Cecehis mom, "We're over." And then he trusts me so he trusted me so much. So much that he only trusted his family and me during that time. And so I think I'm

Cecekind of like I love people watching. I try to like get people. His two weaknesses were trust and money. I took those away from him. I

Cececrush it away and I took all the money. I I Okay. To be a to be to be fair, I gave what he invested it in. I took all the profits away. So you stole the

Cecebusiness or >> I stole the I mean it was under my everything my name because he was from another country. All the social socials were under and we never did a contract. That's how dumb he was. So

Cece>> well I mean even if there's not >> his dad his dad owns like a really huge company in oil company in Japan. And so I'm like you can't even

Cece>> His dad owns an oil company. >> He he sold it. So, he used to um own a Japanese company, oil company in Japan. He sold it. He was my ex was supposed to take it, but he sold it for a lot of

Brian Atlasmoney, but he has other businesses as well. >> Uh, okay. Um, >> guys, we're lowering TTS to $69 if you guys want to get a like a roast in or

Brian Atlaswhatever. I don't think we'll go probably won't go lower tonight, but the TTS is now $69. if you guys want to get a message in as we're getting towards the uh kind of

Brian Atlastail end of the show here. So, >> yeah, Streamlabs only for the TTS. Uh, can you pull up that super chat? I'll respond to the that thing, but Ana, can I have you read the super chat?

Anya>> That is devaluing yourself on the first date. Make that dude work for it. And um also to the woman with the guy in the car that's called Grape. Call the cops.

ShantelI mean, >> cops don't do [ __ ] but it is very assaultish. >> It is, but it happens so much. It's like you learn to deal with it and you learn to like >> say no.

Brian Atlas>> Life of being a woman. >> Thank you for the uh super chat. Appreciate it. Uh yeah,

Brian Atlasone time I was uh I didn't I didn't want to do it and the girl I mean nothing happened, you know, but she was kind of aggressive. >> Did you like it or no? >> No.

Caitlyn>> Oh. >> Uh yeah. I was like, whoa. >> You're a victim. I'm sorry. >> No. No. Nothing happened. But she was like aggressive with it. The aggression is still like a violation of like your

Brian Atlasboundaries and stuff. >> Yeah, that's true. It was It was pretty uncomfortable. >> Kind of sucks. Yeah. >> But uh Yeah. I was like, >> "I'm good. I'm good." And she's like, "You sure?" >> Like that?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Like she whipped the And you know what though? If she had a large labia, >> you would have [laughter] >> But it was an innie. So I was like, >> "Oh no." >> Yeah. I thought [clears throat] in were

Brian Atlaslike the beauty standard because that's what all like porn is >> for most I think most men prefer it but there's uh >> this one's special. >> I'm a Yeah, special. Just show of hands.

Brian AtlasWho here has an Audi? >> No, [laughter] for real. No way. >> No. >> No. >> Just you? >> Just me? >> It's These girls are lady fishing though. They they lie. They They think

Brian Atlasthey have an Audi. They don't have an Audi. It's all [ __ ] I feel like everyone has their own opinion on what an Audi is, though. >> I >> I don't know. >> Yo, we got somebody who just got something from the merch shop. Let me pull that up. Thank you, man.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, your girlfriend Zoe hates when you watch the podcast. Told you not to >> buy the hoodie. Oh, w Hey, Zoe. Zoe. Hey, CoJack. >> Hi, Zoe.

Brian AtlasWe're going to take your boyfriend from you. It's so over. It's over. It's over, KJ. It's over. Um, which hoodie did you get? What did you get? Do you get the 6X? You got the

Brian Atlasone of the big BLM ones. All right, pull up the super and then we're going to have you read it. >> What? Oh, the problem is when you don't hold men accountable, it will continue.

Shantel>> Came up, guys. Just if that happened every time, like I would be logging up like five minute a week. Like guys, all men would be in jail. >> You guys, that's just like how it goes.

ShantelAnd you know what's crazy? I forgot to mention it. He said, "I'll stop asking if you do it." Like he like he kind >> That's a yikes. That's a yikes. [gasps]

Brian AtlasSee, I don't know. Like the girl has to like if like if the girl is on the fence, I'm

Caitlynlike, "No, no, go away." Like I don't know. [clears throat] >> He's woke a little. He's a little woke.

Brian Atlas>> Well, it's like like I'll even >> woke sometimes women have done this reversal where it's [snorts] like >> the girl seems like a bit on the like I

Brian Atlasdon't know maybe it's because of my position. Look, I'm not I'm not saying I'm like any anything special, but I have to be careful a little bit in the way I move, you know, because there's for for somebody who's in the public

Brian Atlaseye, you got to be a little, you know, and like if I feel any like any it's

Brian Atlasokay. Like it's any sort of hesitation. We're not making out. It's just done done. And I've lost interest. Yeah. >> I'm not going to be I don't want to be the pushy guy. I never want to be the guy who's put like like that at all.

CaitlynRight. [snorts] But then some girls would be like, "No, no, no, no. Can we I'm like, nah, not tonight. You want to pick it back up another night? We can. But like >> maybe you should eat it and she'd be more into it."

Brian Atlas>> Oh my god. >> No, I don't know. It's like if the girl like cuz then because then it's like, "Oh, she sees that I I pulled away and she's trying to I don't know. I don't. It feels kind of

Brian Atlasweird. >> Yeah. >> She's got to want it. >> Like she has to be there has to be mutual desire and enthusiasm. >> If not, I don't I don't want it.

Caitlyn>> This is a good course about consent, guys. Y'all need to learn to ask for consent. Enthusiastic consent. >> No, but look, sometimes like a woman can feel a little nervous and that's okay. Like, you know,

Leah>> don't negate the fact that we're talking about consent right now. >> What do you mean? No, I'm just I'm saying valid. No, what I'm saying is like >> because I like a man to take charge. So like if I'm being like, you know, not so aggressive about it, do they know if I

Caitlynwant it or I don't want it? In their mind, they don't know. >> Mhm. >> Communication is key and we love that. Just security, reassurance, communication, consent.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. I can't it a girl a girl has to be like fully otherwise I just nah. >> Yeah. >> Sign the waiver. >> I lose I'm I lose interest. I lose interest.

Nick (Producer)Yeah. Anyways, okay. Uh, hold on. What the Ena >> Enya donated $69. Brian, by your logic, kissing can also

Nick (Producer)be git. Why if you consider a girl could have sucked love and have residue in their mouths from whatever even after brushing their teeth and using mouthwash? >> No kissing. >> Yeah. No.

Brian Atlas>> See, he's quiet now. >> Wait, what? Sorry, I wasn't. [laughter] >> That could have suck. Wait, what?

Brian AtlasWait, hold on. Wait. >> He's at a loss of whatever even after >> from your own. Is he talking about from your own? >> No. He's saying like kissing a girl if

Caitlynshe kissed another like the same. >> Oh, yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. >> Kissing is gay. >> It could be. Is kissing a man less gay than kissing a woman by that

Brian Atlas>> that just kissed another guy? >> Oh, >> no. >> But what if that man also had a dick in his mouth? >> Oh my. Y'all are crazy. >> Double gay. [laughter] >> No, it's just >> it's just uh I don't know. Um

Brian Atlas>> ultra premium. >> I mean, it's like if you don't know, then technically you're not gay, but that woman like forced you to be gay kind of. >> But you could say the same thing about

Brian Atlasthe [ __ ] that was unconsensual game. Like for example, like look look like I you know it's a it's kind of a heavy topic but like uh you you can't count towards your body

Caitlyncount non-consensual. >> True. >> Like you wouldn't count it like if if a girl was essayed that that's not I wouldn't >> I wouldn't say that's a body count. >> Mhm. >> He is woke guys.

Brian Atlas>> Evidence. >> It's complicated. It's complicated. But what I'm saying is like if if a girl like it was in her mouth and you didn't know,

Brian Atlasthen she kind of like essayed you in a way. Actually, that would be essay. >> No, >> hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Check this out. A girl I actually

Brian Atlasthink is this should be some form of essay. A girl sucks a dick, then she makes out with you right after, and there's semen residue in the chick's

Anyamouth. >> I'm sorry. I'm feeling violated. >> That's a violation. >> I mean, yeah, if I if I if you suck a dick and this is really weird. Um, if you just have a mouthful of [ __ ] and then you go outside and you spit it on a

Brian Atlasstranger. Yeah. I mean, you're essaying that person. So, that's like the same logic. But say the kiss is is consensual, but the guy doesn't know. This is crazy comment by the but [laughter] but say the guy he doesn't

Brian Atlasknow that your mouth is [ __ ] got jizz in it and he so he's consensually kissing you but he wouldn't have consented had he known that your mouth was full of I don't know that's a violation of some sort. I don't know

Caitlyn>> technically very much it is they classify essay or a one classification of essay is like intentionally spreading

Caitlynan SED to someone else like that is a >> that falls under essay that's what it's called >> I would yeah I'm pretty sure it falls under essay >> wait yo chat you you guys so I remember >> California doesn't have that

Brian Atlas>> we were going to have a girl come on the show and in her pre-show notes she said something like this this was like 2 years ago I took a screenshot of it. I might be in the Discord. Not that I can

Brian Atlasjust tell you what it was. I So, she ended up flaking and then we never were able to get her on. I wish I [ __ ] had her on because I would have called her

Brian Atlasout. She said that she was dating a guy who felt uncomfortable kissing uh after, you know, she'd go down on him, which you might say, "Ah, that's kind of whatever." Uh or you might be like,

Brian Atlas"Well, I guess that's valid." Whatever it is. So what she she wrote in her notes is she said, "You know, this guy I was dating, he was uncomfortable if we kissed after I gave him head." >> Oh my god.

Brian Atlas>> She received his load in her mouth and then forcefully basically spit it into his mouth.

Brian Atlas>> That's crazy. >> I wish she came on the show because that >> that's essay. >> That's essay. Yeah, that is >> that's if he if your partner says I don't want to kiss after you've just done this sex ass. >> That's not even just kissing. That's

Brian Atlas>> well >> spitting jizz on somebody. [laughter] >> It's even worse, right? So, he's just uncomfortable even after like if there's even the chance of some residue now you're going to

Brian Atlas>> and I wish she But she canled but I took a [ __ ] screenshot >> exposure. >> Yeah. I was like yo that's [ __ ] up. That is really [ __ ] up.

Anya>> [ __ ] up. >> Will you kiss a girl >> if she just went down on you? >> I don't like to know. >> What if you didn't come? Like what if you didn't come like she just she was sucking your dick? It that was like the

Brian Atlasbeginning of it. That was just foreplay. >> I just can't I can't do it. >> No. >> Even Yeah. Even if it was just foreplay. Sorry. Yeah. >> Have you ever tasted your own [ __ ]

Brian Atlas>> Not to my Thanks for that picture. Uh not to my knowledge. No. I don't want to. >> But uh yeah, I don't know if uh >> we can kiss before, >> right? >> But like honestly, [laughter]

Brian Atlas>> look, and I >> no kissing allowed at all. >> Honestly, like I'm a little like I'll be honest. Look, I'm an honest guy. You might not like to hear it, but at least you know I'm honest. Even if she's like

Brian Atlasgone and like swashed her mouth or whatever, like brushed her teeth. >> Sorry. I feel like I got to wait till the next day. >> Mhm. >> To kiss her again.

Cece>> So, it could be like 12 hours, not like 24 hours. >> Sure. 12 hours. >> It's your own DNA, though. >> Mhm. It's >> It came from you. >> Yeah. I think you're being >> I don't want my own. No, no, no. >> But it came from in you.

Anya>> Yeah. Like, you created it. >> Poop comes from in [laughter] >> Best argument. Best argument you made. >> I'd kiss a guy if he went down on me like after that.

Brian AtlasSomebody in the chat says, "Bro, if it's yours, it's not that serious." Yo, 65, you're kind of gay, bro. [laughter] Kind of gay, >> bro. It's not that serious. It's kind of

Brian Atlasthat serious. You want your own jizz clipius klow show. You want your own jizz in your That's Come on, dude. That's gross. That's gross. Come on. >> Don't let this,

Brian Atlas>> bro. The chat is like, "What are you? You guys are masturbating and drinking your own [laughter] [ __ ] weirdos. >> You should try it at least once. >> Get out of here. No. >> To to know what the other what the girl is following.

Brian Atlas>> I've been told by women I have the best >> big [laughter] big the best. Okay. >> You're very hydrated, so I'd assume so. Probably. >> He drank like five. >> I also I don't drink alcohol. Don't

Brian Atlassmoke. I don't really drink coffee. Okay. [laughter] >> Okay. >> Okay. We have the best the best tasting sperm. Okay. I I have a lot of fruits. >> A lot of fruits. I drink a ton of water. But

Brian Atlas>> why aren't you skinny? >> No, I'm just kidding. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I had to do it. >> I don't know. Why are you >> Oh my god. I wish I had a comeback. You [ __ ] >> I know. I think that was the comeback.

Brian Atlas>> But uh what was I saying? >> What was I saying? What was I saying? >> You eat a lot of fruit. >> Yeah. >> No, even then I don't know the smell. I don't know. What are we talking? It should smell

Brian Atlasgood. >> Guys, let's talk about some sex. >> What are we talking about? >> Stop. You guys just All you guys want to talk about you women? This pisses me off. >> This is girl talk. You're the one who

Brian Atlasspent an hour on oral sex. Exactly. >> As a guy, sometimes I just want to cuddle. Y'all women are so sex focused, man. Can't we talk?

Brian Atlas>> You spent an hour on oral sex. Notice that he has no look. >> Can't we just, you know, sometimes y'all women objectify us, men, like sometimes a guy, like y'all look at us like pieces

Brian Atlasof meat. I just want to cuddle. Can't a guy cuddle? Can't a guy just want to have good a good time, you know? I just want to talk. And y'all just all y'all want to use me for sex. I feel objectified. I feel used. And I'm sick

Brian Atlasof it. I'm >> We need to choose better women to hang out. Women are so [ __ ] pornrained. It's disgusting. >> You're just not selective enough. >> I I'm telling you, man. >> You noticed that he had a whole talk

Caitlynabout oral sex, right? His talk, guys, he had a list. >> A list. It was a big list. >> I think it was a Chad GBT list. Holding the list. >> Look, sometimes I just want to be spoon. It's not deal [laughter] >> and each point was like repeated like

Brian Atlasthree times. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was the same thing over and over again. >> Oh, thanks. >> Okay. Uh what what were we going to what oh notes you needed? Uh okay CC something about Japan.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So the business was six figures and you stole it. >> I took it. >> Took it. Okay. >> Oh, I mean yeah I did basically I blocked him. >> Damn. Tox toxika. Is that what they call >> toxika?

Cece>> Latina toxic toxika bro. But at the end of the day he did wrong. He cheated. He physically abused me. >> Do that. >> He was but I feel like just leave. preparation. No, he should have just

Cece>> Brian. Brian, this is the thing. You're dating Latina? We We're crazy. >> Very crazy. >> Yes. >> I dated a Latina and she was really nice. >> She wasn't that crazy then. She was probably hiding it.

Cece>> No, she was Mexican. Like actually. >> No, I think she was like trying to like hold back to like, you know, didn't like her. >> She was pretty chill. She was a good She was I don't know. See, I think here's

Brian Atlaswhat I think. I think it's a stereotype, but you guys like the stereotype and then you use the stereotype to justify acting crazy. >> Okay, to be fair, like I say, he abused

Ceceme and he was crazy. He literally So, in Japan, there's a job called uh Yam Yam Yamay Yamayto. It's basically like low-key jobs. He did

Cecea lot of those jobs in Japan cuz he was actually an ex-professional baseball player, but he injured his knee and he was doing those jobs and the dad found out literally it's like >> I feel like that's enough information

Brian Atlasfor somebody to find him. Exressional baseball player >> Japanese. Hey, the chat there's a bunch of detectives in the chat that >> and come after him

Cece>> actually. Yeah, go after him. He does. No, I'm just kidding. Go after him. Okay, but to be fair, he actually even abused animals, too. >> Okay, well that's [ __ ] up. >> Yeah, find him. >> Okay, hold on. That's crazy.

Cece>> He like Joffrey. >> He He abused his own puppy. He got a puppy one that he It was a German Shepherd. So beautiful dog. I was at the

Ceceapartment and one day I I got him so pissed off that all that anger he put it on that puppy. He started

Leah>> punching the head and it I >> Yeah. [snorts] >> So now you understand what >> what's that movie? Um something for cats or kittens. >> Oh, don't [ __ ] with another one of those now.

Cece>> Yeah. >> Yo. Yeah. Yeah. You don't you don't mess with >> you don't mess with them. And he was so sick to the point that he'll go to websites where there's animal cruelty. A lot of people would literally be adjoyed

Cecewatching. he enjoyed. He would show it to me. I did not want to see it. I felt Satan demons was in him, but yet none of his family knew about it. I was the one that knew about everything. And I'm

Brian Atlassurprised that >> I think I would like if I genuinely saw somebody abusing like an innocent dog. Like this guy has to die. Like I'm sorry. Like I'd be so enraged. I don't know. Like I He's pro Like this somebody

Brian Atlaswho abuses animals. >> They're terrible people. >> Like this guy needs to get [ __ ] >> merked. Well, just so wait, wait, [laughter] hold on. I'm speaking in general, not I shouldn't say. >> You if you abuse animals, you don't deserve to live. I think that's fair to

Cecesay. >> I think, you know, whatever. >> Exactly. And then one more thing. When I was in Japan, first time was Japan. He's like, if you're going to leave me, I'll kill you. >> He kept saying that, "I'll kill you. I'll kill you. I'll kill you." And he has friends that are deep there.

Cece>> Did he say in English? >> Yeah, he said it in English. Clear as day. And we were on the like, "If you leave, I will kill you. I'll find you." He has friends that are in like that are in that work that basically can like

Cecewhich is why I never left. I was so scared to my life actually and that's why I did what I did. I was like you know what you're not going to just because you think highly of yourself just because you think you come from a

Brian Atlasrich family high status thinking you can do all of that BS to me. >> Robin blind >> [ __ ] that's crazy for you. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Next note. You said men should pay on the first date. Yeah. >> Men should be traditional. No 50/50.

Cece>> No. >> Men date to have sex in this current time. >> Uh, >> you think asking about body count is being insecure? >> Yeah. >> Every day, every guy that I dated that I

Cecehave been asked out, they never asked for my body count because they know the type of person that I am. Like if you meet a person, you kind of sense like how they are, you know? So, they don't have the need to ask like what's your

Brian Atlasbody. Honestly though, so look, I'll tell you this. There's been some women who I thought like you think you you can get that sense. And look, sometimes you can.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> But I'm telling you, there's some unassuming women. >> You'd be like, you have no idea this

Brian Atlaschick has done some [ __ ] >> Really? Like she could be timid and quiet and shy and she's

Brian Atlasshe's [ __ ] She has [ __ ] >> literally. >> Okay, >> speaking of which, uh, let's >> Oh, [ __ ] I um >> can I add something to >> Hey, Mary, can you get me the [ __ ]

Cecepen that fell? Thank you. >> Can I add something to that? Actually, >> wait. >> What? Yeah. So basically you said like guys well in my defense like um you guys

Ceceworry too much about body count but I've seen so many guys that actually married >> hoes they married only fans they married they we we know me and my friend was supposed to come we know someone that

Ceceshe should have told her to you should have told her well too late now she should have pulled up >> she was so anxiet like she this this is the thing the city that she lives in and

CeceI also give in that part of the city Do everyone knows one see one everyone gossips everyone knows your business like the girl that got engaged everyone

Ceceknows that she's a hoe but yet she still got proposed and that guy was super rich got her body done everything >> well you know >> day >> I think so I think there's some people

Brian Atlasonline >> and some of the some men co cope about this okay >> oh she's a sex worker she's never gonna get married if she's Uh, she has a high

Brian Atlasbody count. It's over. Uh, but I have a black pill perspective on this. >> I think good-looking people, but especially good-looking women,

Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> it doesn't matter what they did, good-looking women have a way of always landing on their feet. And as much as men like to cope, oh my

Brian Atlasgod, she used to be a [ __ ] sex worker. it's over. I mean, look, it's going to impact your life, but if you're a good-looking woman, I I'm not saying your life's going to be

Brian Atlasperfect if you did some stupid [ __ ] in your past, but uh a lot of good-looking women >> Mhm. >> they'll land on their feet. >> Yeah, exactly.

Cece>> Is it fair? I don't know, but they do. And chat, what do you think? Is that true? What do you think, Chat? Is it true? What do you think, Chat? Chad, chat, chat, chat,

Brian Atlas>> chat, what do you think? I don't know. Um, maybe the case for good-looking men, too, but I don't think quite to the extent as it is for women. Like, I don't know. You have some some of

Brian Atlasthese porn stars, they're finding simps and [ __ ] and they're married. And >> so, I think it's cope. Like, I don't know. This idea, oh, you're a sex worker. Now, look, I do also think it's true if you're a sex worker, that's going to have some negative that is

Brian Atlasgoing to have whether you get out of it or not down the road that could present issues for you. But I think overall they tend to land on their feet. Pretty pretty women,

Brian Atlasattractive women >> land on their feet. >> Yeah, >> exactly. >> Here, I'll play this.

Brian Atlas>> What is it? just world something just uh wait just world fallacy is that what I'm thinking of the cognitive bias that people get what they deserve meaning good things happen to good people and

Brian Atlasbad things happen to bad people yeah but that's not true uh so yeah just world fallacy um Brian wants reparations yeah you guys

Brian Atlasdid not give me enough money by the way that was ridiculous black woman reparations that's Well, she jump. >> Next time you [laughter] bring me on, I'll give you more. >> Yo.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Uh, >> I love this. >> Finishing off. >> Oh, I guess we'll just uh Okay. Should the past not matter going around the table like body count?

Brian Atlas>> True. >> Okay. Agree. Leia. No. You. Okay. Nothing. Uh, no. Is it really? Nobody. Oh my. Hey. Oh, wait. Passion not on

Brian Atlasmatter. Michelle, you say passion on matter. You agree. >> Okay. I guess just going around the the table. Why not? It's Hey, it's girl time now. Uh body count. >> Mine.

Leah>> 17. >> Okay. >> I said it before on accident. >> More than I expected. >> Cuz I thought you were Yeah, you were talking about my roster. I thought you meant over the years, my whole list, my body count. >> Oh. >> Not in one go.

Leah>> What What is it? 30 something. >> 39. >> Um I'm I lost track. >> You lost count? >> Yeah, I happened. >> You're her secretary. >> Happens. >> Oh, yeah. Do you count? >> Why aren't you counting for me? >> No, literally. >> You should be counting. I'm

Leah>> keeping track of the clients. [laughter] >> I'm doing a bad job. >> Yeah, you are. >> Do you think it could be in the 40s even or? >> She's like, "Oh, yeah. >> I guess you never know. >> I'm going to put it in my notes now. >> You need to start keeping track. >> You actually do like start from now. >> It's done though now.

Shantel>> Keep track of the reoccurring. >> I'm retired. >> Body count. Five men, two women, three men. >> I totally forgot to include women the last time I was here. >> Yeah. What? What was it? >> It's five. >> Five. What?

Shantel>> I said four last time. >> Refuse to answer that. >> Range. How about a range? >> I refuse. >> Is it more than 10? >> I refuse. I want a lawyer. >> I played the fifth. >> I played the fifth. >> Is it more than 10? >> I want a lawyer.

Brian Atlas>> I don't think so. >> I answer no questions. >> What about you? >> Three. >> Three. Okay, cool. Why? Why are you guys looking at me? I'm not going to answer [laughter] your body count. >> What's your body count?

Brian Atlas>> I'm sure I'll answer if she answers. >> Okay, guys. No, >> I don't think it's By the way, I can't. >> Three almost 300 episodes. I've never shared the body count. >> Really? Come on. Please make us feel

Shantelspecial. >> Please. Come on, you guys. Wait, can I lie? Am I allowed to lie? >> Yes. >> Zero. Nope. [laughter] Too late. >> That's not fair. >> No body count reveal from Brian. Could have been could have happened.

Nick (Producer)>> Can I wait? Can you text us? [laughter] >> These nuts donated $69. Brian, that's an L take. >> Good or below average 304s will end up

Nick (Producer)single mom cats or poor simps they don't like. >> You let him hit it raw. Didn't have second thoughts. >> Now you a single mom.

Anya>> Can I say something about that? Because most of the big big P stars um that you know from Brazers Pub all these girls the biggest ones they all have husbands

Anyathey all have boyfriends. >> Um most of them are open about it. I'm not like exposing anything but they're I I would say I would say mainstream is even crazier than O of because like

Anyayou're working with I mean it depends how you work. Um, but if you're working like with many many many people, um, and a lot of the time the boyfriends, the husbands, they're they're marrying them.

AnyaThey're getting with them. And I' I've met them. They're honestly really nice guys. They're not like simpy guys. Um, but >> well, I think they regardless of their behavior, there is a simp factor,

Brian Atlas>> right? >> I think baked into uh like, okay, that girl's ran through Like that's simp in and of itself. Like

Brian Atlasdealing with a girl who's used to do gang bangs and [ __ ] that you're kind of a s. Even if you don't act like a s, you're kind of a s. >> Mhm. >> Sorry.

Caitlyn>> No, you're good. Go ahead. >> I was just asking why like m like why do we care? Like if like if I'm in love with you >> then why does it matter like what I've done in the past? Cuz I can get a STD test. My period's going to come. Someone's going to wash me all out. I'm

Brian Atlasgood. >> Okay. Well, I didn't need that info, but um >> we mentioned >> I thought you mentioned gynecologist. >> Listen, listen. >> This is a uh a >> a

Brian Atlas>> you know, >> [ __ ] gross. >> This is a respectable [laughter] show, >> family channel. >> Keep that, you know, keep that to

Caitlynyourself, okay? Uh, but sorry, what were you saying? Um, >> I was just asking why like the gang bang and the body count was like important. That's what

Brian Atlas>> you just have no self as a guy. If you wife Look, I'll be I'll keep it real. If you wife up a girl who's done that [ __ ] who's [ __ ]

Brian AtlasThat's kind of >> like I'm talking about the porn stuff, right? Like look, okay, you're you're a guy and there there's levels to it. It's

Brian Atlasa scale. It's it's a a spectrum. >> Okay, she's got 10 plus, she's got 20 plus, she's got 50 plus, she's got 100

Brian Atlasplus, she did porn, she did gang bangs. Uh there's a there's a spectrum to it. Some of these guys like the [ __ ] Riley Reed or whatever seems like a nice enough girl I guess minus the like

Brian Atlasdropping the hard >> R [laughter] whatever bread >> but it's like >> rap >> she seems pleasant enough right but I mean she did like multiple multiple gang

Brian Atlasbangs >> that doesn't make her immoral or a bad partner or bad person >> it might make her immoral but depending on your perspective on morality but Uh, >> when did Aristotle ever mention, oh,

Brian Atlasbecause you slept with this many people, you're not virtuous? >> I'm pretty The Aristotle definitely wrote some books about that, but I I would say that I I don't know. I would

Brian Atlassay that uh >> that's just look it go then it just transcends your relationship. Like then your kids are going to get bullied.

Brian AtlasLook, if your mom if your mom was like a hoe kind of privately, not like a prostitute, but look, she got 20, 30, 40 bodies or whatever, that's pro that's not really going to have an impact on your kids. Like people don't really know

Brian Atlasabout people's sexual histories like that. But when it's public, when she's a sex worker, that's forever. And then then the kids are going to get bullied. >> Do you remember what I said the first time about that? >> What did you say?

Brian Atlas>> That was like a gross character. >> Oh. Oh, right. The [laughter] kid gets bullied. No, I don't know. I don't know. It's Look, I'll just say it's sub it is suboptimal to date a woman who has that

Brian Atlas[ __ ] >> online. That the internet is basically forever. It is suboptimal. It's suboptimal for the relationship. It's suboptimal for the kids if you ever do

Brian Atlashave kids. >> I'm not. Look, I'm not >> I'll just say this >> to any women out there like considering doing sex work. Your future husband and

Caitlynchildren will not appreciate nude photos of you being out there on the internet. They will not appreciate it. >> It is a much harder date. I will say

Caitlynthat. It's It's >> different and you got to have like a really cool dude to be down with it. >> Look, I'm not super hardline with it though. Like I'm not Some people do a

Brian Atlascope where it's like, "Oh my god, no one will ever date her." No, that's stupid. That's [ __ ] Like most of these OF girls who even claim they're single, they secretly have boyfriends. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Uh but but I mean that's just a hunch. I could be wrong. But a lot of these girls, look, a lot of girls, oh, I'm single. I'm single. I'm not going to throw anyone under the bus. I'm single.

Brian AtlasI'm single. No, they got boyfriends. like uh or even if they say that like but it does present a complication to

Brian Atlasthe relationship and if you ever want children a complication. Um where was I going with this? Uh oh, Cece's gone. >> Body count.

Brian Atlas>> CeCe's friend not here. Okay, so I think I'll come back to Cece's notes, but I think we did. Okay, Talia gone. Shantel Oh, the horse thing. Maybe we can talk about horses >> for real. Uh, a little second.

Brian Atlas>> Yes, I want to talk about horses. >> All right. So, tell me your your horse girl. Give us the scoop. What um are they crazy or is that just [ __ ] >> Are horse girls crazy? >> Yeah. Are they crazy? >> A thousand%.

Leah>> A thousand%. >> A thousand%. Anybody that gets any kind of satisfaction from almost dying every time they get on a animal with its own brain is a crazy person. Yeah. >> Yeah.

Leah>> Yeah. >> And most of the time, aka Michelle gets thrown off in the dirt and she'll just keep going. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> I think uh what's that saying? Uh for a girl who has horses. >> Is there a saying there? >> There's a there's a order of importance in her life. A woman who has horses, >> horses come first.

Anya>> Yeah. >> Horses come first. I mean, you got to do homework. Like, there's no way around it. >> Then daddy's money. Then you >> I wish I had daddy's money.

Leah>> That's the order of importance for horse girls from what I've [snorts] been told. >> Yeah, more or less. >> Well, now it's my husband's money. >> I'm daddy. So, >> and then it's my money.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. I'm going to get my daughter if I, you know, when I have a daughter, she's she's >> I would say stay far away if I'm being honest. >> She can swim. She'll be a swimmer. >> But we're always hardworking. >> Yep. >> We're not lazy.

Leah>> Strong legs. >> Very strong legs. Yes. >> Strong core. >> Exactly. >> So there there are like there are some benefits of dating a >> horse girl. >> There's a lot of benefits. >> She could ride. We could ride. >> Exactly. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Girl on Top is actually my preferred. >> I figured that. >> Nobody asked. >> Cowgirl. Cowgirl. >> But I like to do the work. >> You said you did not like to do the work. What do you mean >> from the bottom? You like to do it?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. All right. She's on top. >> I respect that. I like to. Yeah. >> Good talk. Uh you [laughter] Let's see what else what else what other things from you from your notes. >> I'm all political.

Brian Atlas>> Modern dating is going through a strange transition period right now. Uh you say there's a shift in gender roles. There's a negative effect on women.

CaitlynI don't even Hang on. [laughter] >> He said, "Uh, >> you want to start it back up?" Yeah. Literally. >> Okay. Are you religious or No, >> no. I was raised by an atheist. I am like agnostic

Brian Atlasnow. >> Oh, you were in a mutually violent relationship for 3 years >> from 15 to 18. >> Excuse me. >> That's fun. >> Um,

Brian Atlasso you would beat him up >> and then he would beat you up. We We >> And then you'd [ __ ] >> No. >> That [snorts] sounds fire. >> No. >> No. >> They'd fight while [ __ ] >> No.

Caitlyn>> Hate [ __ ] >> It was like uh he would say things that really upset me and I would flip out and like I would just try to throw like a punch or a kick or something and then he

Shantelwould give me a black eye. >> Did So, did you ever like actually make contact? Did you land any >> Oh, yeah. She was whooping. [snorts] >> I'm not a fighter. [laughter]

Caitlyn>> I'm >> You never know. >> I bit and I left mark at like twice and that was really it. >> Oh [ __ ] >> Um >> that's like something light. >> Yeah, something light. Nothing crazy. Um

Caitlynhe Yeah, he and I were together for three years. We were teenagers, so um that was something to get over. And he passed away in November of 2023.

ShantelUm, >> you murdered him. >> No, >> you he died from himself >> after you beat him. >> He k he committed. >> Yeah, that sounds about right. I mean, if he's willing to hurt somebody else, they're usually going to hurt

Caitlynthemselves. >> It was It's a weird thing cuz it's like obviously he didn't start it. And then also, we were teenagers. He grew up in a like semi violent household. >> I don't blame him. I can't, you know, at this point.

Brian Atlas>> But were you would you ever just initiate the violence? Yeah, that's what I just said. >> Oh, so he was reactively violent. >> Yeah. >> Have you been violent in other relationships?

Brian Atlas>> One time. One time. >> You're an abuser. >> Low key. >> Wait. Low key. Are you actually >> No, I'm just kidding. >> No, but like other guys you date, do you get violent with them?

Brian Atlas>> It's reactionary to things that they do or make me feel. But I haven't >> Wait, but but but >> I don't [snorts] know. It's reactionary, but they'll do things that aren't physical. Like they'll piss you off, right? >> So, let me give you the example of what

Caitlynhappened. >> Yeah. Give me the >> uh he was this second this guy, this was earlier this or I guess 2025. Yeah. >> He was drunk and I had picked him up >> after he went out with his buddies or

Caitlynwhatever >> and uh picked him up from his friend's house. He was coming home with me. We he wanted to stop at the gas station cuz his fat ass >> badass. fat ass cuz his fat ass wanted to get snacks from the gas station but

Caitlynthe gas station was open so he was all pissed off. We get to my apartment complex and he's like I'm going to I'm going to slam your door into this car and I'm like oh no baby please don't do that. Please be careful. And he just

Caitlyn[ __ ] does it on purpose. Like he slams my car door into it. >> But wasn't he drunk? He was drunk though >> I guess. >> Oh my god. Who the hell cares? >> Well, you asked. >> Sorry. Sorry. That was neck.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Anyways, >> he pressed the button. >> If you want to ask a question, do you want me to answer it? >> So like, but uh give us like the >> So then I grabbed him by the like the collar and then that was it. I didn't like >> you [ __ ] judo threw you did some

Brian Atlasjudo. >> I dragged him away. >> So you'll put your hands on the man before he puts his hands on you. I get that he pissed you off or whatever, but or did something bad, but um

Brian Atlas>> [ __ ] up my car and somebody else's car in my car. Like, let's be honest. You've put, and I'm asking this as a question, have you put your hands on a guy when he just slightly mildly annoyed

Brian Atlasyou? >> I have to feel this rage. I don't like, >> but sometimes you can be rageful from kind of something a nothing, you know?

Caitlyn>> It might have started off from like >> what if he was like, I want to deport illegal immigrants. [laughter] Mhm. >> Funny story with my first ex. It wasn't illegal immigration. >> He whooped his ass. >> Y'all know what a Bojangles is? >> Mhm. >> It's a restaurant.

Caitlyn>> Yeah. >> It's like a fast food thing. >> We were going through the Bojangles drive-thru. We had just paid and we were just driving off and he had said something real nasty about gay people.

CaitlynAnd I was like, "That's disgusting." And I took my little Bojangles box cuz the Supreme came in a little box and I like tossed it in his lap like a like a like cuz he was in the passenger seat. I was

Caitlyndriving around cuz I'm mommy. Anyways, he he >> chucked that [ __ ] Bojangles box at the side of my head so hard like my ear was ringing for like 20 minutes. It was crazy. >> Why is he still walking? Oh.

Caitlyn>> Oh, he's not. So >> yeah, >> damn. >> Process. >> But rest in peace. Rest in peace. He was not a bad person. I won't say that he's a bad person. >> Are we sure? >> He was a teen. He was just a kid. >> Yeah, >> but and then he ended up not being

Caitlynhomophobic. >> You're such a red flag. >> Yeah. >> True. >> That's why she attracts people like that. >> Like I don't know. Look, um >> you're 15. What was I supposed to do? >> Yeah. >> Now I'm 21. It's been

Brian Atlas>> I mean that's all that's your parents fault. Cuz I feel like for most women, if you're in a relationship with them, uh if you never put your hands on her, she should never put your her hands on you. Right.

Brian Atlas>> True. >> Uh nobody should be >> doing that, right? >> True. >> But I feel like for you in the back of a guy's head, he's always got to think, >> I could say something or I could do I could never put hands on I might never

Caitlynput hands on her, but I could do something. We could be having some crazy [ __ ] argument and you're gonna start throwing hands. >> Yeah, >> you're gonna get physical. >> Well, [snorts] >> you got to work on that. >> Have I go to therapy? That's why. Like,

CaitlynI'm woke. >> Have you ever beat up a therapist? >> No. I love Regina. Well, we haven't talked in a little bit, but I love Regina. >> Okay. Well, I don't know. Just be careful, men. >> Yeah, be careful, guys. I I talk to

Caitlyneverybody about it in the beginning. Like, I make like they know and I make steps to like walk away. and I'm not going to stick around like that guy

Caitlynearlier this, you know, this past year. I learned from that in the way that I'm not just going to sit around and be angry at somebody. If somebody's making me mad to the point where I

Caitlynreally want to lay hands on them, like that relationship is no longer worth it. And that seems obvious and it is obvious. >> Have you wanted to lay hands on me? I don't remember because the last time

Brian Atlaswe saw each other it's been like two years but maybe >> not this episode >> tonight. >> Come on. We were >> You've been kind. >> Hold on. We I was saying like deport illegal immigrants. >> You called me a five. No, I'm just kidding.

Brian Atlas>> I did. Yeah, I called you a five. That was the angriest I think you ever got. All right. Well, uh we have this chat. I think >> Contraband donated $69.

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