2 WALK OFFS?! MEGA Woke Feminists DEBATE Brian?! 3 Men In ONE NIGHT?! HORSE GIRLS! | Dating Talk 276

Date: 2026-01-05

Duration: 9h 50m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMichelle Beriv >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Shantel(guest)

SPEAKER_03Caitlyn(guest)

SPEAKER_04Leah(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Cece(guest)

SPEAKER_11Talia(guest)

SPEAKER_12Anya(guest)

SPEAKER_13Lem(guest)

SPEAKER_14Michelle Beriv(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves

Key MomentLeah reveals she owns 18 horses, shocking the panel

“I have um 18 right now.”

ControversyCaitlyn declares herself a communist and anti-capitalist while working as a stripper

ControversyCaitlyn says she wouldn't be sad if Jeff Bezos was guillotined

“I wouldn't be sad about it.”

QuoteLeah reveals she has made seven figures in a year on OnlyFans

“Yes.”

ControversyTalia says 50/50 chance Trump rounds up trans and gay people

Key MomentTalia argues you can't be racist toward white people in America

AgreementCaitlyn concedes women can be sexist toward men on an individual level

“Honestly, you're right. I'm going to concede with that.”

ControversyCaitlyn admits she giggled at the Charlie Kirk assassination video

“I giggled a little bit at the video.”

ControversyTalia agrees she would support violent overthrow of Trump administration

OtherWalk-off #1: Lem leaves due to autism-related anxiety/overstimulation

Key MomentBrian rates Caitlyn 5/10 after she rated herself 9.75. She gets upset.

OtherWalk-off #2: Talia leaves to take care of Lem. Brian gives speech about weak constitution of the left.

TopicBrian launches his 7-point oral sex defense, the longest segment of the show

QuoteAnya says being on the Whatever podcast is better than sex

“This is so much more riveting and feels better in my mind than sex ever has.”

QuoteBrian: last time he performed oral was during the Bush administration (2007-2008)

ControversyCece reveals ex physically abused her on train in Japan - punching and biting over jealousy

Key MomentCece's 8-month revenge plan to steal shared Amazon FBA business from abusive ex

ControversyCaitlyn reveals three-men-in-one-night story

OtherBrian announces he's contemplating episode 304 being the final Whatever podcast episode

Topics Discussed

Show Intro & Flake Statistics

Brian's intro with 2025 flake stats (1,588 total). Hiring helmet girl sidekick and soldier sidekick.

Guest Introductions

Caitlyn (21, stripper/communist), Talia (25, leftist), Anya (19, OF/conservative), Cece (26, USC nursing), Lem (18, autism/addictive studies), Leah (27, OF/18 horses), Shantel (18, marketing), Michelle (27, receptionist).

Leah's Horse Empire

Owns 18 horses on 30 acres, $10K/month maintenance. Born in a barn. Flips racehorses. TikTok is entirely butt content.

Caitlyn's Communist Ideology

Declares herself communist/anti-capitalist while stripping. Debate on property under communism, Oprah's mansion, guillotines for capitalists.

Immigration Debate

Heated multi-guest debate. Talia/Caitlyn against deportation. Anya/Cece (whose parents legally immigrated) for enforcement. Caitlyn/Talia would side with foreign invaders against US.

Trump as Fascist/Stalin

Talia believes 50/50 chance Trump rounds up trans people. Compares to Stalin. Would support violent overthrow.

Can You Be Racist Toward White People?

Talia argues racism requires power - can't be racist toward white people. Brian challenges with hypotheticals. Caitlyn eventually concedes individual-level sexism exists.

Walk-Off #1: Lem Leaves

Lem (18, autistic) leaves due to anxiety/overstimulation.

Looks Ratings

Caitlyn rates herself 9.75, Brian rates her 5. She gets upset, says it contributes to male loneliness epidemic.

Walk-Off #2: Talia Leaves

Talia leaves to drive Lem home. Brian gives speech about weak constitution of the left.

Oral Sex Marathon Debate

Brian's 7-point argument for not performing oral sex. Hasn't since 2007-2008 (Bush administration). Panel debates if it's 'a little gay' not to.

Cece's Japan Abuse Story

Ex punched and bit her on train in Japan. He abused animals. She executed 8-month plan to steal shared Amazon FBA business.

Body Count Reveals

Leah: 39 (keeps list on phone). Caitlyn: had hoe phase of 10 in a year. Cece: 3.

Rapid Fire Trivia

Shantel initially says Africa when asked to name a country (it's a continent). Math struggles (9+9+9=29).

Caitlyn's Three-in-One-Night

Slept with 2 men, went to third guy's place covered in baby oil. Third found first's magnum condom wrapper.

Possible End of Whatever Podcast

Brian announces he's contemplating episode 304 (mid-July) being the final show.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasstuff. If you're on my Caucasian, you will join the Discord now. Nick, click that first image there, guys. It's really quick or I'll pull it back up in a sec. It's 2026. We've been keeping statistics. We frequently uh you know,

Brian Atlaswe we we deal with a lot of flakes, a lot of no-shows, and so um we we are going to publish at the beginning of the year. We've have the finalized statistics from 2025. So, we're going to

Brian Atlasdo a quick segment on that if you can pull that up. All right. So, the flakes over the years, this is for the whatever podcast. So, we started in 2022 and I July 2022 and uh we we didn't break down

Brian Atlasthe data perfectly, but we had 129 flakes in 2022, 376 in 23, 628, 2024, 455 in 2025,

Brian Atlasand then Nick, go to the next one. And then the total flake rate, all-time flake rate, 1,588. I just re Okay, never mind. I just

Brian Atlasrealized if a digit was off, that would have been really bad. But um >> 1,588 uh flakes total. So

Brian Atlasthere's this there's the updated statistics. We always we always do some statistics stuff stuff at the beginning of the year. So there it is. And you can find that in the Discord and a bunch of other great stuff, too. If you're my

Brian AtlasCaucasian, you'll join the Discord. F. This is the most long. I don't know how these intros have become 10 minutes long at this point. I apologize. Uh, I'm hiring for two positions. Uh, you need

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Brian Atlasin the world. I guess a woman could do that job. Um, yeah. Okay. Well, okay. Sure. We'll we'll consider it. Uh, let's see. And that's pretty much it. Okay. Without

Brian Atlasfurther ado, we're going to have the guests introduce. My good Oh my goodness. The back. Oh my. Can you guys see the [ __ ] rainbow boys? Is it the double rainbow? I don't know if yo chat, can you see the [ __ ] rainbow?

Caitlyn>> It's potent. >> Can they see the rainbow right there? >> Oh, wait. Hold on. >> Right behind that corner.

Brian Atlas>> Right there. So pretty. >> I should I should have had it like this. I don't know if that changes the exposure. I changed the exposure a little bit. I should have done that. My I [ __ ] up. >> Oh man, I [ __ ] up. I should have had

Brian Atlasthe exposure down the whole time. Obviously, [ __ ] amateur hour here at the Whatever podcast, but uh all right, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. Uh name, age, occupation,

Caitlynwhere you from, education. >> Hi, how's it going? Uh I'm Caitlyn. I'm 21 years old. I'm from Eastern North Carolina. Um I am a dancer, an exotic dancer. I have been for the last three

Caitlynyears, three and a half years now. Uh, I also do Only Fans and um I'm in school for political science right now. >> Okay. And you you do uh you're a dancer too. >> Mhm. >> You still stripping or?

Brian Atlas>> Yep. >> Okay. What are you studying in school? >> Political science. That's my major. >> Oh, anything else or is it just the political science? >> Political science. I'm minoring in business and whole health and wellness. >> Gotcha. And uh this is your third

Brian Atlasappearance on the show, I think. Okay. Welcome back. It's been a while. Uh, I also I think you went not I don't know if viral is the right word. >> Uh, there was a video of you and I was actually trying to find it, but I couldn't find it. I saw it a like a

Caitlyncouple months ago. It was a lecture hall or something. >> Oh, it was a little viral, wasn't it? >> Who was Okay. Can you tell us who was that? >> I don't remember who the speaker was, but it was right after Charlie Kirk got

Caitlynshot. Is Can I say that? Um, >> that that happened. Yeah, that happened. So, at my school, we had this Spirit Rock situation and uh there was a memorial for Charlie Kirk on the Rock.

CaitlynTurning Point made this whole thing about it at the school. There was a lot of students in opposition to that um to the memorialization of Charlie Kirk and stuff like that. Uh Turning Point also

Caitlynended up bringing that guy, the speaker to the school. He was platforming on um abortion is murder, LGBTQIA is like

Caitlyndegrading our society, whole bunch of like mega conservative um fundamentalist ideology that he was speaking on that he had plat. >> What was the name of the speaker? >> I don't know. >> You >> I I

Brian Atlas>> but it it was right after the assassination. >> It was within like a couple weeks to a month after this. Was it Was it Myin? >> Matt Walsh? >> I I >> Was it Was it a Daily Wire person? Was

Caitlynit Nolles or Matt Walsh or? >> No clue. I didn't recognize his name from anywhere. >> What did he look like? >> Uh he was kind of buff. >> I can't I should have had the exposure on. I Okay.

Caitlyn>> Yeah. I don't remember what his name was, but I I saw the post >> the the what he was going to be talking about the brochure type of situation on Instagram and I went and I

Brian Atlas[clears throat] >> Does anybody in the Can somebody in the chat tell me? Was it Alex Stein? Can somebody in the chat tell me who Steven Crowder? >> No, he doesn't know. >> Does anybody know the clip I'm talking about? So, didn't you like did you rage

Brian Atlasquit? No, he told me to get out. He told me he didn't want to >> You got kicked out. Yeah, it wasn't a rage quit. You got kicked out. >> Yeah, >> you don't remember the speaker. Can

Brian Atlassomebody in the chat or somebody in the Discord find me the clip? >> Anyways, maybe we'll pull it up. >> Yeah, >> but I saw it. I saw it. I was like, "Wait a minute. I know that girl.

Talia[laughter] I know her." Uh, so okay. Well, welcome back. >> Thank you. >> What about you? >> Hi. Uh, my name is Talia. I'm 25. I live in Ventura County. Uh I'm a personal

Brian Atlasassistant for a realtor and I'm in school for political science. >> All right. Political science. Okay. Uh currently in school, are you getting your masters or?

Talia>> Uh no, I started late cuz I had medical issues. So I'm just doing my bachelor's right now. >> I see. Okay. And what do you want to do after you graduate? >> Uh I'm not sure yet. I want to do

Brian Atlassomething in humanitarian work. Anything where I can help people is kind of my goal. >> Okay. And are you just going back to you really quick? Are you in your third year, fourth year about to graduate?

Caitlyn>> I'm a junior. I have about two and a half years left. >> Two and a half years left. >> Yeah. It was I took like two years as a gap year after my associates. >> Okay. Gotcha. Um,

Brian Atlasgoing back to you, uh, so I noticed you describe yourself as a humans human rights advocate. You're a political science major. Uh, when you say you're a

Taliahuman rights advocate, which human rights do you advocate for? >> Any and all. Like, I'm all for everyone has the right to be who they are and do what they want to do? >> Are women's rights human rights? >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Are men's rights human rights? >> Yes. Do you advocate for men's rights? Yeah. >> So, you're a men's rights advocate. You're an MRA. >> Well, I would say I'm an everyone advocate. >> Okay. What's a men's rights thing you've advocated for recently?

Talia>> I could not tell you. >> What's a woman's rights thing you you've advocated for recently? >> Um, well, I'm very strong on the not banning abortion and stuff. >> Okay. Sure.

Talia>> Um, I do a lot of that. I've been doing a lot of other protests and stuff with all the ICE raids and stuff. So, kind of anything I see that I feel strongly

Brian Atlasabout I will join in. >> Gotcha. And uh you I think it you have a blue sky which I took a I I took a look at. I think you write save democracy.

Brian AtlasYou know what? We'll get into some we'll get into all that stuff a little bit later in the show after all the introductions. But uh what about you? >> Hi. I'm >> I'm sorry. Wait, look at this sky. Holy [ __ ] boys. [laughter]

Brian AtlasIt was it was it was overcast and raining and uh Wow. Beautiful. And there's a [ __ ] rainbow, boys. I Yeah, normally I'm the only rainbow

Anyaperson. >> I thought I flew into Seattle with how rainy it was. It's actually kind of crazy. >> Sorry, I didn't [laughter] I didn't I I didn't mean to cut you off. Uh go ahead.

Anya>> You're good. Um I'm Anya. I'm 19. I'm from Florida. Um, I do of social media, all that good stuff. >> Okay. And you're a Christian, right? >> Yes. >> Okay. Well, we'll get into

Anya>> Actually, actually actually, as I said last time, half and half where I >> am not educated and I don't participate enough to actually consider myself a Christian, but I like to believe that I have >> on your on your TikTok, you you have an emoji of a cross.

Anya>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. So >> because I try to live my life by I I try to have Christian values in my life. >> But >> she's trying her best. >> But I think it's a really big label to call yourself a Christian.

Anya>> Is it? >> Yeah. There are certain things that you follow and certain things that you do. And I don't think I fit into that. So I think it would be really bold of me to say I am a Christian, a devout

AnyaChristian. >> But are you a somewhat lukewarm Christian? >> Yeah. Like I believe in God. I pray. I believe in God. >> Yeah. >> But you are uh [clears throat] you're sinning. Let's just say I guess you

Cececould say that. >> Okay. We'll get into that later. What about you? >> Hi, my name is Cece. I'm 26 and a half years old. Um I'm a nursing student and >> it's not like one like a 7.

Brian Atlas>> Wait, what? >> Like your age? You said it's and a half. 26. >> I'm going to turn. >> Are you like 7 or >> I'm going to turn 26. I mean >> I'm being obnoxious. Go. [laughter] >> Uh, I'm going to turn 27 in April. So, >> okay. >> Yeah.

Cece>> Are you a Taurus? >> I'm an Aries. >> Wait, >> uh, continue on? >> Uh, yeah. And I'm actually going to start school like literally tomorrow. >> Oh, >> first time. >> Nice.

Cece>> Yeah. But >> wait, first time starting school or it's like your next quarter or what? >> My No. So, I went to USC. I got a a major majored in human biology, minored

Brian Atlasin something with SC like um healthc care studies and then I >> you got your bachelor's degree? >> Yeah, in in university >> at USC that's University of Southern California.

Cece>> Yeah. Where all the rich kids go. >> Not University of South Carolina. >> No, >> you're North Carolina, right? Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. Um and then I took three years off. I did business and then now I'm going back to school as a nursing

Lemstudent. >> Going into nursing. Got it. Okay. What about you? >> My name is Lem. Um I'm 18. Um I'm in

Brian Atlasschool. Um majoring in addictive disorder studies. Um what else was I supposed to say? I'm very nervous right now. >> No, you're fine. Uh I'll just I'll give

Brian Atlasyou a little prompt. Occupation, where you're from, and I think you already covered education. You're in your first year of college. >> Yeah. And I'm just a student worker at Oxnard College right now.

Leah>> Okay. And uh you're from Ventura or? Yeah. Like grew up there? Yeah. Okay. What about you? >> Hi, I'm Leah. I'm 27. I'm from New Jersey.

Leah>> Um I do OAF in social media and I dropped out of college. >> Dropped out of college. Did you uh what were you studying? >> Marketing.

Brian Atlas>> Marketing. Okay. What year did you drop out of college? Your first year, second year, third year? I think it was like I was a year and a half in. >> A year and a half >> to me. Okay. >> Felt like a while. >> And you do OAF currently?

Leah>> Yeah. >> But you also have Come on. You got to Hey, you guys got to you you ride horses too, right? I saw you horse girl. >> Actually, I forgot about that. Thanks. >> You [laughter] forgot about the horse thing. You've been doing too much of stuff.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, exactly. It got in the way. >> Do you own your passion? I have um 18 right now. >> Well, hold on. 18 horses. >> Yes. Yes. >> Don't you do horse stuff? You have a horse?

Brian Atlas>> I have one. [laughter] >> You You own a horse, though. Yes. Anybody? And then you horses, too. Anybody else >> own or ride horses? >> Okay. >> The horse girls. [laughter]

Brian Atlas>> Wow. Three horse girls at the table. I'm in for I'm in for it tonight. This is going to I was worried about the feminists and then the the liberal women, but it's the horse girls I got to be careful with. >> Um Okay. So, one horse for you and 18 horses.

Leah>> Yeah, I buy. >> That's like how many thou hundreds of thousands of dollars? >> Way too much. >> Is that in the millions of dollars? >> Well, yeah, but if you do girl math, then it really isn't anything. [laughter]

Brian Atlas>> So, that's what girl math is. >> Yeah. Well, your dad typically it's the father that pays for the horses. >> So, that's funny because um my father died when I was five. So, >> Well, the inheritance.

Brian Atlas>> Well, no. Yeah. I made my own inheritance, though. You died and then came back. >> Exactly. Exactly. So, >> yeah. Okay. Yeah. >> 18 horses. Do you have a ranch? How do you >> I do I live on 30 acres.

Leah>> Where where again? Were you You're in Jersey. You live in Jersey. >> Okay. >> Like South Jersey. South Jersey. It's very formy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay.

LeahDo you have a Mustang? >> I don't have a Mustang. >> Do you have a Clydesdale? I don't have a Clyde stale. >> Damn. That's all I know about horses. >> Darn. >> Are they quarter horses?

Leah>> I have four quarter horses. >> Do you race horses? >> No. So, fun fun fact. I take them off the racetrack and retrain them and sell them for regular riding horses. >> Okay. Nice. >> So,

Brian Atlas>> good. >> It's like flipping houses, but flipping horses. >> Flipping horses. >> Yeah. >> That's dope. How much do you think total throughout the course of your life you've spent on horse related expenses? >> Um, see, again, I try not to think about

Leahit. It probably would send me into a spiral. >> Let's do that. Let's have you spiral. >> Perfect. Cool. Okay, cool. Um, well, they're each about like

Leah400 to 800 a month if you own have them at your house to feed. >> Mhm. >> So, I'm I mean, it's an exponential number. It's It's And it's got to be

Leahcrazy. If I had to guess, it'd probably be like >> It's like 10 grand a month right now. That's with them being in my backyard. >> Damn. >> So once you start boarding, I have four

Leahthat are boarded right now and I pay like 1,200 each. >> Wow. Yeah. How young were you when you first got a horse? >> I was born on a farm. >> Born on a farm? >> Like outside in? >> Not even in the hospital. Like >> not in the hospital. >> Your mom was

Leah>> Yes. In the barn. >> In the barn. in the style. Yep. >> Wow. That's beautiful. >> Yeah, it was a nice moment. >> But, uh, now you're not really focused on the horses too much.

Brian Atlas>> No, I'm focused on them too much. Actually, I forget what my real what actually makes me money is sometimes. So, >> I see. I I looked at your Tik Tok. Can we get her Tik Tok pulled up? >> Very good.

Shantel>> Um, here I'm going to find the link, but while we're waiting on that, why don't we have you uh introduce yourself? I'm Shantel. I'm 18 and I'm an OC Mission

ShantelVJO. I'm local and I'm running my own clothing brand. It's going to drop soon. And I'm a marketing major. >> All right. Uh and you are you at a university or college? >> I go to Cal State Fullerton.

Michelle Beriv>> Cal State Fullerton. All right. Uh private chat. I sent it. >> And uh you said marketing. Yeah. >> Major. Okay. Got it. What about you? >> My name is Michelle Beriv. I'm 27. I

Michelle Berivwork as a front desk receptionist at a stone fabrication company and um Leah's assistant too. >> Assistant. Okay. >> Assistant. >> Gotcha. And uh you're from New Jersey, too. Or >> I'm from New York.

Brian Atlas>> New York. Which uh which part? >> Staten Island. >> Staten Island. >> Staten Island. >> Are we going to hear a bit more of the accent develop? >> You might hear you might hear a bit of a Russian accent. >> Russian. Oh, you speak you speak Russian? >> Yeah, it was my first language and then

ShantelI learned English in school. >> Okay. Rock and roll. What about you? Um, I'm Seline or ill faded blade. I'm 21. I'm located in LA. Um, and as of right

Shantelnow, like I'm doing college. Um, so hair, makeup, nails. But, uh, on the side I cosplay, model. Um, and I recently started making music

Brian Atlas>> like singing or no >> trap beats. I don't I don't know if you guys have ever heard of um like Osama >> Osama bin Laden. >> No,

Shantel>> you make music for terrorists >> basic. I mean >> that music goes hard. >> That's pretty close. Honestly, >> terrorist music goes [ __ ] hard. >> But think of like like underground rap like beats and stuff like that. >> Actually listen to that.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> During sex. >> Oh, >> I don't think you do that. Nothing more romantic than putting on some uh

Brian Atlas>> Oh man, I I I so want to play it, but we'd probably get a copyright strike. >> Sorry. Anyway, >> we should sing it. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> It's like,

Brian Atlas>> no, I can't. I can't. The floor is yours. Go ahead. >> We got a copyright strike. But >> um Sorry, I didn't You're So, do you want to sing for us or >> No. [laughter] >> Okay. All right. Uh, Nick, do you have the Oh, sort by popular on the Tik Tok,

Brian AtlasI think. >> Yeah, I did that. You want to do audio? No audio. >> No audio. We're not We're not even So, this is your Tik Tok, Leah. The Um, >> so I was noticing I looked at your Tik

Brian AtlasTok >> that it's very focused. >> They're very similar. All of them. They're very similar, >> you know. And here's what we'll do. No audio. Nick, click on the first one and we'll just like swipe through.

Brian Atlas>> [laughter] >> So click and then you'll hit the arrow >> and then we'll do two three seconds each. Yeah. Next. Next.

Brian Atlas>> Are you sensing a theme? >> Oh, there it is. Okay. [laughter] Okay. And then uh Oh, that's Where's that? Where's that? Is that >> Oh, that's Miami.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, that's Miami. Okay. Next. Next. Next. [laughter] >> Oh, no. >> Skip. >> Next. My [laughter] face came on that.

Brian Atlas>> What? Damn. God, that the horse the horse just Next. Next. Next. Damn, your knee got all [ __ ] up. Next.

Brian Atlas>> Yep. [laughter] >> Next. Next. Next. >> I forgot about half of these. >> Next. >> Next. >> Damn, I don't see a

Brian Atlas>> Next. [laughter] Next. She knows she's Oh, how many hands? >> Next. Next. >> Oh, I forgot.

Brian Atlas>> What the next [laughter] next?

Brian Atlas>> Okay, we get the idea. [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah, >> we get the idea. All right. So, and that's the that's your content. >> That's me. That's my thing. >> Yeah. Which one is your you know how

Brian AtlasMozart his reququum Yes. is often or you know you could look at Beethoven some of his symphonies one you know there's the magnum opus that is like the number like

Brian Atlasyou know people might debate which one is Beethoven's magnum opus is it his seventh symphony is it his fifth piano conerto of all your videos on Tik Tok which would you say is your magnum opus

Leah>> it's got to be the golf one >> the the golf one it was early we don't need to pull it up but >> they love that The people loved it. They loved it. The golfers big with them.

Brian Atlas>> Do you think that within your lifetime of art creation? >> There will be another like a big >> There better be. >> What What are you working on right now? >> I'm trying to create several.

Leah>> Can you walk us through the creative process? >> There is I I'll give you how it goes. Usually um she's behind me and I say >> it's you that films it. [laughter] >> No boyfriend or anything like that. Um,

Leahyou know, it's honestly whoever's there. If I hand you my phone, you know what the deal is. >> You ever had a stranger do it for you? >> I feel like there had to have been a couple times. Like, but they don't get the angles. There's an art to it.

Leah>> There is a technique. >> You really have to know the angle. >> You have to know. >> You have to know. >> Yeah. You're a real cinematographer. Let me tell you. >> It took some practice. It took It took some practice. >> And she still gets it wrong,

Brian Atlas>> but we're working on it. >> A real Scorsese over here. Yes, she is. [laughter] >> She is. >> Okay, that's cool. >> That's my art. >> It's That's great. >> Yeah. >> Cool. Um

Brian Atlasthat was it. [laughter] Um >> very talented horse more. >> Yeah, lie. That's bringing That would bring in the money. >> I do. >> Before we get into uh everybody's relationship status, uh I wanted to

Brian Atlastouch base on people's just education really quick. So, you are currently you're going you're in your junior year, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. And you're studying political science, you said. Okay. And you just

Brian Atlashad, you know, I guess it was winter break. You're When's school start up again for you? >> Uh, not this upcoming week, but the following Monday. >> Okay. So, maybe like two or three weeks

Brian Atlasago. You took your finals or whatever. >> Uh, beginning of December. >> Beginning of December. So, like a month ago. >> Yeah. >> Um, what was the what classes were you taking last semester? >> I had a pretty good time this past

Caitlynsemester. I took uh introduction to sociology. um urban urbanization and um like yeah just the development of American cities

Caitlynum let's see what else was there international relations oh global capitalism and its discontents um and then there was a fourth one let

Brian Atlasme see oh and then just my introduction to political science >> okay yeah So uh so you had four classes.

Brian Atlas>> Can you tell me uh you can pick from any one of those four classes. Can you tell me the biggest takeaway from any of those classes that you

Caitlynlearned? It's it would be hard for me to do a biggest takeaway because all of these classes had a lot of overlap um in

Caitlynmaterial and sometimes I was learning the same thing in different classes like I said because there was an overlap. Um what was interesting I think that stands

Caitlynout right now is in my uh global capitalism and its discontents people were upset at capitalism from the very beginning. capitalism used to be like

Caitlynconsidered a slur or um a harsh word to use in opposition to the system. Um and from the very beginning, early transition into capitalism. Um so I thought that was really interesting and

Brian Atlasthat kind of stuck with me for a little bit that the fact that people hated it from the beginning. >> Hated capitalism or hated the word capitalism. >> Hated capitalism. >> Hated. Okay. And when did capitalism

Caitlynbegin? because you said at the beginning. >> Yeah. >> So when was that? >> So we transitioned from the feudal system >> into capitalism. Um when was this?

Brian Atlas>> That is a great question. >> Not like looking for a precise year but like decade or >> I think century wise >> century even. >> Can't quote me on this but I would say maybe

Caitlyn>> oh I didn't that didn't stick with me. I think if I were to guess maybe about 1300s but then there was early markets before then probably. So >> I guess also it would depend

Brian Atlasgeographically speaking >> certain countries or regions got uh you know degrees of capitalism or full-blown capitalism or you know however you want to categorize it

Caitlyn>> uh sooner than other regions. But if we're looking are you talking about like western countries >> the a lot of the class focused on western countries so like uh Britain and you know other European countries were

Brian Atlasbig >> ended in the 1300s in in England. >> Don't quote me on that. >> Pretty sure I mean look that's it. I don't know the answer but my hunch is

Brian Atlasit's ended much later than that. But anyways I'm not not interested in like >> I don't I don't even know the answer. So I'm not going to be like debate you on that but >> okay. >> Um

Brian Atlas>> so people the takeaway was people didn't like capitalism. >> It was interesting to observe. >> Do you think we would be better in a feudal system? No.

Brian Atlas>> If we went back to feudal system. >> No. >> Okay. So but there was resistance from the surfs. >> I'm sure there Yes. Yeah. >> Go. So feudal system better than

Brian Atlascapitalism is >> no can't get me on that. >> I mean okay. Um so the big takeaway was people don't like capitalism from your what was the

Caitlynname of the class? >> It was called global capitalism and its discontents. >> And it's discontents. >> Yes. So we looked at how >> is your school a private school or a public school? >> Um I would say it's it's public. Yeah.

CaitlynIt's public >> public school. >> Yeah. >> But that was an option class. >> Yeah. Is there a textbook for that class? >> No, he did give us uh supportive

Brian Atlas>> print out, but no textbook. >> Huh. Okay. All right. >> Uh you're currently in college, right? Or did you just graduate? You said >> uh No, I'm still in college. >> You just started or

Talia>> uh I'm like a year in. >> But you're political science also? Yes. >> Okay. So you just took some classes, too? Yeah, I'm a halftime student and last semester I only took like the

Taliarandom classes that I needed. So, I took art and philosophy. >> Philosophy. Okay. >> Which aren't really things I'm interested in. I just needed them. [laughter] >> Okay. Uh, did you have to I mean, one

Taliabig takeaway from philosophy? >> Oh, I have no idea. >> Well, wasn't it just like a couple weeks ago you took the class? Um, I've been out of it since earlyish December.

Talia>> Yeah. Well, >> but I honestly um don't know that much about philosophy. That's not my >> I mean, but didn't you have to study? There was a final test or maybe an essay. >> Um, kind of. We didn't have finals or

Brian Atlasanything. I don't know why. Um, >> but there must have been some sort of towards the end of the year project, you know, an essay or something, right? It was just like little little projects throughout.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> Was it it's in person or online? >> No, it's online. >> Oh, okay. Online. >> Yeah, that's >> Is there anything you can tell me from that? >> I did not process philosophy. [laughter] >> Can you tell me the name of a philosopher?

Talia>> Markx. >> Karl Marx. The comm Okay. >> Yes. >> Um, did you read his book? The >> I read some of it. >> The communist manifesto. >> I have a really hard time like with the style of writing and philosophy. Okay.

Talia>> Um, >> any other philosophers besides Markx that you can remember? >> No, I can't. >> Shop an hour. >> No, not my thing. >> Okay. Um,

Brian Atlas>> I can tell you about cool boats I had to look at in my art class. >> Cool boats? Okay, that's fun. Uh, you're in college, right? Or no, you're in nursing school?

Brian Atlas>> Nursing school. >> You're in college, right? What what you what did you just take? >> Uh addictive disorder studies is my major. And then >> sorry, what is it? Could you repeat that? >> Addictive disorder studies is my major.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. What classes have you taken? >> I took pharmarmacology and um uh ADSR 101. Um >> any like what's it called? The general classes or whatever.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, in English. Um but I'm also a halftime student. >> Okay. Huh. Okay. If I were to ask you what was the of and

Brian Atlasyou can pick any of the disciplines that you were studying this past semester or quarter. Uh what's like one big takeaway that you could relay to us that you learned about? >> Um

LemI think all of it is interesting. Um I think that everybody should know about Narcan and how to use it. Um it's a

Lemlittle nasal spray or an injection um that can reverse an opioid overdose and it's really easy to get and you can get it for free a lot of places. Um uh >> this is something that you learned in one of your classes.

Lem>> Yes. >> Uh harm reduction resources is a big part of my um major. Um and Narcan is something that can save people's lives and has saved people's lives and even has saved the lives of friends that I

Brian Atlashave in my life. So, I think it's very important. I always carry it. I keep it in my car. >> Um, I think it's something everybody should know about. >> Okay. And then, uh, you're in college. What are you studying again, sir? >> Marketing. Like

Brian Atlas>> marketing. >> What What classes did you take? >> Uh, like geology, philosophy, like English, math. >> All right. Of all the classes you took,

Brian Atlasrelay to us one thing that you learned. One big takeaway. >> One big takeaway. College is useless. That's my big takeaway. You don't need college. Like I might drop a waste of time, right? Um

Shantel>> have you seen the teacher parking lot? Like have you seen like one like sport car or anything like that? Like no. They're all like Toyotas and Hondas. like >> well I mean that that that wouldn't be

Brian Atlasmy primary criticism of college the cars in which the professors drive but uh I mean you do raise an interesting thought though is >> uh a lot of the teachers well like the

Brian Atlasbusiness teachers what's that saying those who can't do teach >> so it's like at least as it relates to like marketing and business and these sorts of disciplines a lot of them were

Brian Atlasnot particularly successful in the private sector uh so [snorts] They're teaching, you know, they're teaching. [laughter] >> Exactly. >> Um,

Brian Atlas>> not always the case, but Okay. Uh, relationship status. Uh, what's your current relationship status? >> I'm talking to somebody. >> Okay. So, not single.

CaitlynWould you would you consider yourself single? >> Yes. But I am being I'm exclusive with this person. We're We're just starting out. So technically, yeah, but I'm I'll act like that.

Brian Atlas>> You're not boyfriend, girlfriend. >> Not officially, no. >> But okay, how about this? If some really hot guy approached you and hit on you, what would you like, would you pump the

Brian Atlasbrakes on him or >> I think I would. I really do like the guy that >> You like the guy? Okay. >> Uh Okay. So, talking stage, I guess. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Uh how long you been seeing him? It's been about a month and a half. >> Uh 1.5 months. Longest relationship. >> Almost three years. >> Three years. All right. Okay. Uh three-year relationship. Who broke up

Brian Atlaswith who? >> I broke up with him. >> All right. Uh Okay. What about you? Uh >> I'm in a relationship. >> For how long? >> Uh almost a year. >> What's the longest relationship you've ever been in? >> Like two and a half years. >> Two and a half years. Who broke up with

Taliawho? >> Uh I broke up with them. >> Broke up with him. Why is that? >> Um cuz I did not have great taste in men as a teenager and it was not a very healthy situation. >> Okay.

Talia>> Yeah. >> Uh in what ways was it not healthy? >> Um they were abusive and they used drugs. >> When you say they were they non-binary or

Brian Atlas>> Oh, no. Like he >> he Okay. >> Uh okay. Orientation. >> Huh? Uh, what's your orientation? Are you straight by bisexual? Okay. Orientation.

Caitlyn>> I'm I consider myself pansexual. >> What's that? >> I like pots and pants. No, I'm just kidding. It's basically like bisexual, but it's a considered to be a little bit more expansive. It's kind of they're both interchangeable.

Caitlyn>> Okay. So, you'll date trans people essentially and men and women. M >> I haven't I've only dated men uh as far as experience, but I think I've found myself attracted to transgender people

Brian Atlasand women. >> Okay. Attracted to them, but uh you've not been intimate or dated somebody of the a woman or somebody who's trans.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Uh relationship status >> uh single have been for a minute. >> Uh how long? >> Like two three years somewhere around there. Two to three years. All right.

AnyaLongest relationship, >> I think. Again, like two to three years. Honestly, they all kind of It's It's a blur. Everything's a blur. >> Uh, who broke up with who? >> Uh, I broke up with him.

Anya>> All right. No guys in the picture. >> Uh, no. I mean, they're obviously nice guys all the time, but nobody >> nice guys all the time. Okay. >> But nobody that No, I don't call anybody my boyfriend or anything.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. What about you? >> Um, I'm single. How long you've been single? >> For three years. >> Three years. All right. >> Longest relationship. >> Two and a half. >> Is that the one that ended three years ago?

Cece>> Yeah. And that was was like super serious. I was about to like get like married. >> You guys were engaged or >> put almost. >> It was serious. >> It was super serious. >> Who broke up with who? >> I did. >> Why?

Cece>> Oh my god. It's a long story, but pretty much um he was Japanese. So he was Japanese Brazilian. >> You broke up with him cuz he was Japanese. No, no, [laughter] no, no, no. What the [ __ ] >> Wait, no. I'm not trying to say No, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying like, you know, the you know, like the context. You need to know the context. He was

Brian Atlasstudying. >> Wait, he wasn't >> he was J like he wasn't Japanese American. He was Japanese. >> He was Japanese Brazilian >> from >> from Japan >> slash >> Brazilian. >> Wait, from Brazil or from Japan?

Cece>> Okay. So, >> probably from Brazil? No, >> because a lot of Japanese people moved to Brazil, I believe, like a long time ago. >> So, dad is full Japanese. mom Brazilian Japanese, but she was born in Japan. Her

Cecegrandparents like or grandma >> immigrate from Brazil to Japan. >> Makes sense. >> Yeah. >> So, he's Japanese. >> But, okay. What what's that have to do I guess with the

Cece>> um he basically I left him. It's so much story backstory to tell, but some of it sum it up all like he physically abused me when I went to Japan. So, he got

Brian Atlasdeported when he was studying abroad here. He got deported. >> Deported. He got deported >> like >> I don't Okay. >> Was he like So was he an a legal immigrant or

Cece>> So he was a student here. He was um >> but he didn't have citizenship here. I'm assuming >> he didn't have citizenship. He had like the student visa and he needed to go back to his country for his sister's wedding.

Cece>> Mhm. >> When he came back um he wasn't answering none of my calls and wasn't texting, nothing. I called the flight and they

Cecebasically said he's there's a plane that's from LA going back to Japan to Tokyo. >> Um and [clears throat and snorts] I'm like why? Um she's like or they were

Cecelike saying like basically oh they have insufficient like um papers like stuff like that. >> Mhm. >> And then later that night he basically calls me and he's like I'm going back to

CeceJapan like I'm sorry. And based he wanted me to move to Japan. I'm like, um, you gotta propose for me to live Japan because I J I've been to Japan two

Cecetimes. It's It's fun visiting there, but living there, it's not my cup of tea. I felt lonely. I felt like miserable. Um, I didn't have friends because a lot of like I did have Japanese friends in Tokyo, but a lot of them were busy. You

Cecehave to like make plans a month in advance. Maybe they'll see you. But that's besides the point. The second time that I went to Japan, I stayed there for one month because I wanted to

Cecesee how I was living there. And um we went to meet his friend. His friend is Australian. He's super tall. Like basically in Japan a lot of pe like Japanese. >> Uh what did he do? So whatever he was

Cecephysically abusive, you said. >> Okay. So basically he physically abused me in the train. >> He literally >> So he like beat you up or what? What happened? >> So he got there. He had an umbrella. He

Cecethrew it across outside the train station. People were watching. He started punching me here. He started biting my arm and punching, punching,

Cecepunching. And people did not do anything. They're just staring. And let me tell you, in that area, there's no tourist. It's pure Japanese pretty much. They don't like they don't want to

Ceceinvolve themselves, basically. And after that, um, I went back to LA and, um, I found out he was cheating on me. And keep in mind, I met the parents. Um,

Brian Atlasmeeting the parents in Japan basically means like it's super serious about like, you know, he wants to engage. Can you provide a bit of so look just to be clear >> uh it's never acceptable to lay your

Brian Atlashands on anybody but can you provide a bit of context like was >> was was there an argument or something like I'm just trying to understand like was was this like he had a psychotic break and he just started whooping you

Ceceor what happened? So, I was going to get to to the story that we went to his friend's house. Um, he was foreigner, so we we call him Gai, foreigner. And, um, he was dating a Japanese girl during

Cecethat time. They were together. And then once the dinner was over, we went outside and it was pouring rain. I had my extensions. Like, extensions cost really expensive. They're like $600. And I didn't want to get it ruined. And in

CeceJapan, it's summertime, super humid, rains a lot. It's nothing compared to in America, LA. And so the friend had a big umbrella, so I was under his umbrella and my ex

Cecedidn't have an umbrella. He went to 7-Eleven, he bought one, and he was in the back. And I told the the homie, I'm like, "Hey, uh, what what's your friend do?" Like your friend like, "Why is he

Ceceacting like the Oh, I don't know." And then that's when he literally blew up on the train on me. Like, why the [ __ ] are you like, "Why were you walking next to

Cecehim?" blah blah blah blah. pretty much standing next to his friend under the umbrella. I did not do anything. I >> Okay, so he's jealous essentially. >> He's basically jealous. >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh Okay. Well, uh physical violence. >> Definitely perfectly justified reason to end a relationship. Uh what about you? >> Um I [clears throat] have a boyfriend.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Uh how long? >> Not long. We just got together like a few days ago. >> How long have you known him? >> Like a month. [laughter] One one month. Okay. Were you friends before or No. How did you meet?

Brian Atlas>> Literally Tinder. [laughter] >> Tinder. Tinder. Okay. Whoa. Okay. All right. Uh I mean, look, people

Lemmeet online. I >> Is that funny? I don't know. >> It's funny to me. I just went on Tinder cuz I was bored. >> Well, yeah. Okay. Uh so you met on [laughter] Tinder. Uh longest relationship you've ever had? >> Uh 9 months. Nine months. You broke up

Lemwith who? >> Me. I broke up with him. >> Why is that? >> Cuz he was an [ __ ] >> He was a jerk. >> He agreed with me that he was an [ __ ] >> He agreed with you. Okay, [laughter] >> got it. Okay. What about you? >> It's a little complicated.

Brian Atlas>> Complicated. Why is How so? >> Um I don't know. I just feel like I I'm a free agent. So, >> okay. So, there is a guy in the picture, but you guys aren't anything. >> Yeah,

Brian Atlas>> more than one guy in the picture. Multiple guys in the picture. A her in the picture. 40 guys in the picture. How many guys? You never >> How many guys How many guys in the picture? >> Probably none, honestly. >> Well, you have a roster, right?

Leah>> Well, yeah. Who doesn't? >> Okay. How's How big's the roster? >> Oh, um, you know, like one or two 100. [laughter]

Brian Atlas>> That's a joke, by the way. >> Yeah. But like, uh, what you seen a couple guys? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> It's double digit. What you about to say? >> Yes. What is that? 10, 20, 30, 40. >> Um, any of those. >> Yeah, but what is it actually?

Leah>> Well, um, you know, like probably like starts with a three. >> So, your roster is in the 30s. >> Yep. >> Actual, not like troll answer, like legit answer.

Brian Atlas>> Legit. That's my final answer. >> Okay. So, but you're not sleeping with all those guys, I'm assuming. >> At the same time. >> Well, not an orgy. >> No, [laughter] >> but >> No, I wish. Just kidding. Some of them you're dating. >> No,

Leah>> casually. >> No, I'm not. I'm a free agent. >> What does that mean? >> That I'm just I do what I want. >> Like a mercenary. >> Yeah, that's me. >> You You do what you want. >> Yeah. >> Sell sword. >> Yeah. But they all know it's I'm not,

Brian Atlasyou know, I'm not twisting words. I say it like it is. So, of any of these guys who you are free agenting with, uh, what's the

Brian Atlaslongest period of time of a guy who you're currently seeing that you've been hanging out with? >> Um, 5 years. >> So, it's been complicated with somebody for 5 years. >> Yeah. >> Okay. What's the longest relationship uh

Brian Atlasyou've ever been in? >> It was also five years. So, that seems to be my number. >> Who broke up with who? >> I did. >> Okay. Uh the five-year it's complicated guy. At any point have you guys been

Leahboyfriend, girlfriend? >> Um yeah, for like couple years. >> Okay. Who uh has it been on again, off again? >> Yeah, more or less. >> How many How many times has it been on

Brian Atlasagain, off again? >> Not that many. I'd say like >> like three breakups. Okay. Who Who initiates the breakups typically? >> Do you go back to him? >> Yeah. Like you try to get back with him. >> No.

Leah>> Oh, he tries to get back with you and you get back with him. >> Yeah, pretty much. >> Okay. What's the reasons typically for the breakups? >> Um,

LeahI feel like it's I am a very hardworking person. So, if somebody else doesn't step up to my level of hard work, it I don't even care what you do, just do something.

Leah>> So, if you're not stepping up, if if you have an ounce of lazy in you, you're out of here. H uh quick question just unrelated to this. Okay. >> Are your glasses are they prescription? >> They are. I'm actually blind as hell. Very

Leah>> What about yours? Prescription. Prescription. >> Are they really? >> I don't need them though. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. If If you don't need >> I can take them off, but I won't be able to see you. >> It's probably for the best. >> Is it glare? Is it >> There's a bit of glare. There's a bit of

Brian Atlasglare. Yeah. >> Okay. I'll take them off. >> If if you need them, just leave them on the table next to you. That's fine. >> It's okay. I don't need to see. >> Yeah. >> Um supposed to offer to take off my glasses. >> I mean, you can leave them on if you want to, but if you don't really need

Brian Atlasthem, you can take them off. Um, okay. So, >> okay. It's complicated. You've been seeing this guy for 5 years. Is he dating other women? >> No. >> He's exclusive to you. >> Yes. [laughter]

Brian Atlas>> But you're you're >> you're dealing with other dudes. >> I'm honest. I'm honest. I I tell them how it is. >> Wait, so tell me. Okay. Pretend I'm a new addition to your roster of 30. >> Yeah. roster of 30 or whatever. I'm number 37.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, >> lovely. Um, what? So, when you say that you're honest with them, let's role play

Brian Atlasit. Hi, um, Leia. Leah. Leah. Hi, Leah. >> You're You're really swell.

Brian Atlas>> I would like to date you. >> Thank you, sir. Um, I don't really date. I think we should keep it casual. How many other men are you currently

Leahhaving sexual intercourse with? >> Well, it depends at that time. Like I don't I'm not with 30 people at a time. That's been >> But you >> over the course of years. >> Well, what's the what?

Leah>> I don't have time for all that. >> Yeah, 30 is too much. >> That is very much too much. I thought we were talking over the years. >> No, no, right now. >> Oh, right now. >> Right now. How many people in the picture?

Leah>> Oh my gosh. you. Everyone just thought I was being like 30 men right now. >> Say 10. I thought 10. >> Okay. I thought you meant my roster. Okay. Let's backtrack here for a second.

LeahAll right. I mean, right now in this moment, >> I'm going to have to say zero. >> That's it's a very big gap. I know. I know it sounds unrealistic, but I'm moving. And again, I don't have time.

Brian AtlasI'm selling horses. I'm too busy. [snorts] >> So, >> okay. >> And it's winter. I'm hibernating right now. >> But okay, there have been periods. >> Would you say it's fair to say there have been periods where you have had

Brian Atlas>> not saying you'd sleep with all of them, but you've had multiple guys in the picture at the same time? >> Yes. Not you're dating, you know, I'm not saying you're sleeping with them. Um, but so like when you say you're you're open with the people that you are

Leahdating, uh, and I'm assuming maybe you are sleeping with at least one of them, >> perhaps at a different point in time, what are you when you say you're open with them, what do you tell them? >> I just say, "Listen, we're again going

Leahto keep this casual. I'm seeing other people. You should too, so you don't get, you know, the wrong idea." >> Okay. That's that's pretty reasonable, >> right? >> Yeah. But do you tell them like, "Hey, by the way, like

Brian Atlas>> I feel like you have to." >> No. Well, well, you tell them that, but do you give them more details? >> The number or they have >> Are you like like, "All right, if if uh Brad wants to see you on Friday, are you like, "Ah, just BTW like I hooked up

Brian Atlaswith >> I booked with Jerry. >> With uh yeah, Jerry Seinfeld on uh [laughter] on on Wednesday. Maybe give it another day." You know, >> I don't know if I go that in depth. >> You won't tell them that. Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Not exactly. They'll tell. Yeah, >> you do tell them. I'm seeing other people. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Uh and they're fine with that. The guys are cool with that. >> If they're not, then they got to move on.

Brian Atlas>> Well, of course. But some guys are okay with that. >> Actually, I would say 99.9% are. >> And do you think they're also seeing other women, too? I would hope so. A good amount of them. >> Yeah. >> We're talking clean, though. We're staying clean.

Anya>> I don't mean to sound like a pick me, but like I' I've genuinely never had a roster. What is like when you say roster, do you mean just like guys that you can like hit up at any time and talk

Anyato people or are you I get that part, but are you sexually active with the x amount of men at this obviously not like in a group, but at the same time? >> No, I've actually never done that. So,

Leah>> okay. So, it's like >> Yeah. And it's not like it's not gross. It's like, okay, like 1 month I'll >> It's not like, oh my god, like let me call at 9:05 I'm going to call Greg and 9:06. [laughter]

ShantelLike, >> it's getting out of hand. I'm not gross people. Okay. >> Okay. [laughter] What about you? Relationship status. >> Um, like a talking stage like no one has made it official yet. So,

Shantel>> how long have >> like before this year ended? So, like two months, three months. All right. Longest relationship

Brian Atlas>> like serious serious. I would like Does high school count? Like I feel like >> uh well I guess longest period of time you've been involved with any guy whether it was serious or not. >> Maybe like a year.

Brian Atlas>> One year. All right. Uh also you're Christian, correct? >> I am. >> What denomination? >> Like Christian? Um I'm like Orthodox. >> You're Orthodox Christian. >> Yeah. But like I don't really >> Eastern Orthodox. Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Do you go to church? >> I do. >> Do you go to the liturgy? >> I do. >> Okay. Every weekend or >> um I try. I mean, I'm not like the best at it, but yeah, I try. >> I You were about to say something and I

Shantelslightly cut you off. Do you recall what you were going to say? >> Oh. Um I'm like just like Christian. Like I don't be like, "Oh my god, I'm orthod." I'm just like I just believe in God.

Brian AtlasWell, Orthodox is really specific, but when you do go to church, you go to a Orthodox church. >> Yeah. Or just a regular like Christian church, I guess. Like

Brian Atlas>> I think you would Wouldn't you know? Um >> or like at least if you're Orthodox, I think you would know. >> Yeah. >> So, do you go to a Catholic church? You go to a Protestant church? You go to a non-denominational church? >> Well, like Sundays I go to like an

ShantelOrthodox church. Like I go to like youth groups at like >> youth groups. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> That are Okay. They're not like strictly Orthodox. >> Yeah. No. >> Uh but the church you go to, do you go with your parents? >> Yeah. Because we're Egyptian, so like

Brian Atlasit's not it runs in the culture. >> Okay. Were you born in Egypt? >> No. >> But your parents were born in Egypt? >> Uh yes. >> Okay. Interesting. Have you been to Egypt? >> I have. >> Cairo. >> Yeah. How'd you guess? >> Well, I mean, it's the capital, but

Shantel>> Yeah. >> Uh do you like How many times have you been to Egypt? >> Like three times. Not like a lunch or like four like over the summer. >> So like you'd spend a summer there like a couple months. Oh wow. Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Uh >> but we don't like stay in Cairo. We go to like the beaches >> cuz Yeah. I've heard um have you enjoy have you like liked being in Egypt? >> Yeah. I mean like

Shantel>> I've heard some not so great. That's why we go to like the beaches like the place where like tourists go cuz you don't want to be a tourist in like a place where like tourists tourists aren't meant to be. I guess. >> Yeah. No,

Shantel>> especially as a Christian low key. Like they shoot on site. >> Shoot on site. >> If you're a Christian, >> it's like in some parts it's like deep like

Brian Atlas>> Oh, cuz cuz it's Egypt is a Muslim country. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't know. I've heard some not so like for regardless of your religion, I've heard some >> in general. Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Like traveling there, tourists, >> not the spot. Not the spot. But um >> uh what about you? >> I'm married. >> Married. How long you been married for? >> Uh I got married in 20 2023.

Brian Atlas>> So like three years, right? How long were you with him total? >> Uh together we've been 7 years. >> Seven years. Longest relationship? >> Seven years. >> This this one? >> This is Yeah. >> Have you been married before? >> No, I have not. Any kids? >> Nope. >> Okay.

Shantel>> Planning to have kids >> at some point. >> Some point. >> At some point. >> Yeah. Just more established in the career, maybe. Or >> Okay. Yeah. What about you? >> Um I think we just had our 2-year anniversary, but yeah, I'm in a

Brian Atlasrelationship. >> Two years. Is that your longest? >> Yes. >> All right. Two years. All right. That's everybody's relationship status. Uh hold on. Uh, let me

Brian Atlaswe're going to get into our first thing here. Uh, first couple notes here. Um, where do I begin? I was going to begin with our good friend in chair one, but I

Brian Atlasthink she she stepped away to the bathroom. So, we're going to Oh, she's coming back. Oh, is she coming back? I guess she's coming back. She is back.

Brian AtlasUm, let's see here. Um, okay. Okay, I guess we'll start with you then. All right. So, uh, okay. In your I think it's your

Brian AtlasInstagram, you described yourself as a Gemini sun, a Taurus moon, and a Cancer rising. >> Yes. >> What?

Caitlyn>> Can you lower the volume to like 80? Uh, what does that mean? >> It's just an astrological thing. So, your sun is where the sun was. like when

Caitlynyou asked her if she was a Taurus or not, that's what your sun sign is. >> Okay. >> Um your moon is where the moon was at the time of your birth and your rising I actually did some research cuz I was curious what that meant. Um is what

Caitlynastrological sign was rising over the eastern horizon at the time of your birth. >> And um I think astrology is fun. I think

Caitlynit's been practiced across multiple cultures for thousands of years. Um the uh I guess analysis that I have is more

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