2 WALK OFFS?! MEGA Woke Feminists DEBATE Brian?! 3 Men In ONE NIGHT?! HORSE GIRLS! | Dating Talk 276

Date: 2026-01-05

Duration: 9h 50m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMichelle Beriv >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Shantel(guest)

SPEAKER_03Caitlyn(guest)

SPEAKER_04Leah(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Cece(guest)

SPEAKER_11Talia(guest)

SPEAKER_12Anya(guest)

SPEAKER_13Lem(guest)

SPEAKER_14Michelle Beriv(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves

Key MomentLeah reveals she owns 18 horses, shocking the panel

“I have um 18 right now.”

ControversyCaitlyn declares herself a communist and anti-capitalist while working as a stripper

ControversyCaitlyn says she wouldn't be sad if Jeff Bezos was guillotined

“I wouldn't be sad about it.”

QuoteLeah reveals she has made seven figures in a year on OnlyFans

“Yes.”

ControversyTalia says 50/50 chance Trump rounds up trans and gay people

Key MomentTalia argues you can't be racist toward white people in America

AgreementCaitlyn concedes women can be sexist toward men on an individual level

“Honestly, you're right. I'm going to concede with that.”

ControversyCaitlyn admits she giggled at the Charlie Kirk assassination video

“I giggled a little bit at the video.”

ControversyTalia agrees she would support violent overthrow of Trump administration

OtherWalk-off #1: Lem leaves due to autism-related anxiety/overstimulation

Key MomentBrian rates Caitlyn 5/10 after she rated herself 9.75. She gets upset.

OtherWalk-off #2: Talia leaves to take care of Lem. Brian gives speech about weak constitution of the left.

TopicBrian launches his 7-point oral sex defense, the longest segment of the show

QuoteAnya says being on the Whatever podcast is better than sex

“This is so much more riveting and feels better in my mind than sex ever has.”

QuoteBrian: last time he performed oral was during the Bush administration (2007-2008)

ControversyCece reveals ex physically abused her on train in Japan - punching and biting over jealousy

Key MomentCece's 8-month revenge plan to steal shared Amazon FBA business from abusive ex

ControversyCaitlyn reveals three-men-in-one-night story

OtherBrian announces he's contemplating episode 304 being the final Whatever podcast episode

Topics Discussed

Show Intro & Flake Statistics

Brian's intro with 2025 flake stats (1,588 total). Hiring helmet girl sidekick and soldier sidekick.

Guest Introductions

Caitlyn (21, stripper/communist), Talia (25, leftist), Anya (19, OF/conservative), Cece (26, USC nursing), Lem (18, autism/addictive studies), Leah (27, OF/18 horses), Shantel (18, marketing), Michelle (27, receptionist).

Leah's Horse Empire

Owns 18 horses on 30 acres, $10K/month maintenance. Born in a barn. Flips racehorses. TikTok is entirely butt content.

Caitlyn's Communist Ideology

Declares herself communist/anti-capitalist while stripping. Debate on property under communism, Oprah's mansion, guillotines for capitalists.

Immigration Debate

Heated multi-guest debate. Talia/Caitlyn against deportation. Anya/Cece (whose parents legally immigrated) for enforcement. Caitlyn/Talia would side with foreign invaders against US.

Trump as Fascist/Stalin

Talia believes 50/50 chance Trump rounds up trans people. Compares to Stalin. Would support violent overthrow.

Can You Be Racist Toward White People?

Talia argues racism requires power - can't be racist toward white people. Brian challenges with hypotheticals. Caitlyn eventually concedes individual-level sexism exists.

Walk-Off #1: Lem Leaves

Lem (18, autistic) leaves due to anxiety/overstimulation.

Looks Ratings

Caitlyn rates herself 9.75, Brian rates her 5. She gets upset, says it contributes to male loneliness epidemic.

Walk-Off #2: Talia Leaves

Talia leaves to drive Lem home. Brian gives speech about weak constitution of the left.

Oral Sex Marathon Debate

Brian's 7-point argument for not performing oral sex. Hasn't since 2007-2008 (Bush administration). Panel debates if it's 'a little gay' not to.

Cece's Japan Abuse Story

Ex punched and bit her on train in Japan. He abused animals. She executed 8-month plan to steal shared Amazon FBA business.

Body Count Reveals

Leah: 39 (keeps list on phone). Caitlyn: had hoe phase of 10 in a year. Cece: 3.

Rapid Fire Trivia

Shantel initially says Africa when asked to name a country (it's a continent). Math struggles (9+9+9=29).

Caitlyn's Three-in-One-Night

Slept with 2 men, went to third guy's place covered in baby oil. Third found first's magnum condom wrapper.

Possible End of Whatever Podcast

Brian announces he's contemplating episode 304 (mid-July) being the final show.

Transcript

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TaliaI don't know. Uh, Palestine. I'll say Palestine. >> Palestine. >> You should go live there. >> I will pay for you to go live there. >> Same answer. I just We >> Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. >> Not with war. >> I I >> But if you had to pick one, your

Brian Atlasallegiance had to be to one or the other. >> The United States or Palestine? Where's your allegiance? >> I don't actually know. Um, >> you have to pick one.

AnyaUm, I guess Palestine, too. >> She's gonna say Sweden. >> I do Sweden. [laughter] >> Can you and I live there?

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> I don't know. Us patriots, boys. Us patriots. We got to We got to This is crazy. I think we should deport you guys. Honestly, even if you're a citizen, like I think if you your

Brian Atlasallegiance isn't to the United I think it's okay to be critical. uh you know if look if the US goes to war I think it's okay to like you could be against the war or whatever but your allegiance

Anyashould remain to your country >> I pledge allegiance to the flag that's literally the first one >> I don't have they don't have allegiance though to the United if you're not willing to say I pledge

Brian Atlasallegiance to the flag >> wait here's a really good question okay maybe the Palestine thing it's so ridiculous right you say it's a ridiculous hypothe ical. >> I said weak. >> Um, would you consider yourself more

Brian Atlassocialist or even communist? >> Uh, I'd say more socialist. >> Okay. Would you prefer living under like a regime? So, China, >> I guess I don't know. They're not really

Brian Atlasfully like they're not, you know, they the communist China, the Chinese Communist Party, whatever. >> They're like, you know, they're kind of whatever. Would you say they're socialist? I guess >> they have certain social policies in

Caitlynlike their housing from what I understand and then they call themselves the communist party but they still operate under capitalism within the global economy. So it's kind of >> Yes. Yes. Exactly. So um but you would

Brian Atlasyou say that like China they're more based than the United States? Like the way they govern is better? >> No, because they have um a lot of what

Caitlynthey call like a surveillance state. Um, >> wouldn't you need that to get your communism going, though? >> I would hope not. >> Okay. >> Like I said, my morality isn't always

Caitlynthe strongest, but >> I would not want that. >> What country do you think has a better system than the United States? >> Um, there's a lot of uh European countries that have decent systems that

Brian Atlashave just I'm looking for good social. >> Which one? Which one? >> Finland. >> Finland. What do you Would you agree with that? Yeah, I agree. >> All right. Finland invades the United States with their military might.

Brian Atlas>> Why? >> To you acknowledging that I don't know, whatever. Let's just say uh how about it? How about this? It's a it's a neutral hypothetical situation.

Brian AtlasSo, it's not I don't know. It's [ __ ] neutral. There's no moral dimension. Not there's no there's nothing unethical going on. Finland invades the United States. Uh, but you really prefer and

Brian AtlasFinland's like, "We got to liberate these [ __ ] We got to liberate you. You white woman are oppressed in the USA and these Republicans and conservatives,

Brian Atlaswe're worried about them. We're worried about the slippery slope. They're going to be Trump stays in power, he's going to become like Hitler." That's what you say essentially. Uh, he's going to be in the history books like Stalin.

Brian AtlasWait, wait. Actually, yes. This this is actually kind of coherent. >> Okay. >> So, okay. You say that Trump >> will go down in the history books like Stalin. >> Mhm. >> Maybe like Hitler. Is that fair to say?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Right. Uh you say he's it's basically the same as uh you know 1930s Germany is the United starting the same. >> It's looking the same starting the same.

Brian AtlasRight. So don't these Wouldn't it be fair if that's what you believe? Like what if these other countries think like you think and they're like whoa we got to stop Hitler 2.0.

Brian Atlas>> [ __ ] yeah. >> Yeah. So they come in and they're like we're going to just like how I guess Trump did to Venezuela [laughter] recently. They're like, you know what? We're going to just [ __ ] depose we're going to we're going to invade the

Brian AtlasUnited States, Finland, and maybe it can be a coalition of European powers. Although honestly, I'm pretty sure the United States could like smoke multiple theaters of war at the

Brian Atlassame time and like just that's Hold on. Let me just Oh my god. Sorry. Sorry. >> You're trying to sanitize this hypothetically so much. I'm just saying driving yourself insane. >> I was just thinking about it. I was like the United States can operate in like

Brian Atlasmultiple theaters of war and just like [ __ ] smoke everybody. But okay, European coalition. [ __ ] Trump is Hitler. We cannot allow this. He is

Brian Atlasrounding up the transgenders, the they them, the zerms. We cannot stand us European cucks. >> You know, at this point, Europe is actually Islamic at this point in the

Brian Atlashypothetical. It's already been taken over by Islam. So, I don't know. It's a caliphate of [ __ ] Finlandia. They come in, they're like, "We can't let Trump because Trump is is

Brian Atlasxenophobic. We it it's Europeans, but it's it's basically Muslims, right? We can't let Trump because Trump is xenophobic against like brown people. Like you said,

Brian Atlas>> he's Hitler 2.0. We can't let him. >> We're so So this [laughter] is getting crazy. Okay, here I'm going to land the

Brian Atlasplane. I promise I'm landing a >> I'm so close. European European comm uh coalition comes in, invades the United

Brian AtlasStates, [ __ ] drone drone drones [snorts] the [ __ ] out of the White House. [ __ ] Trump. Boom. Done. >> Boom. >> But we're we're in the conflict now. Now we're in war. We're in the They're

Brian Atlas[ __ ] invading us. Where is your allegiance? The European Coalition or the United States? >> No, the European. European. >> You guys are [ __ ] deport. We're [ __ ] deporting y'all, bro. >> Get the [ __ ] out. go to Mexico.

Caitlyn[laughter] [ __ ] >> Listen, if your rights were at risk, right, and this is a situation that we're >> My rights, what what rights? I'm chilling. >> I listened and sat through your five minute hypothetical. You can sit through my 30 secondond one. All right. If your

Caitlynrights were at risk and you're living in a by the hands of the country that you're living in, that you're a citizen of >> and a country comes in wanting to defend your rights, you're gonna side with

Brian Atlaswho's gonna protect your rights. Wait. Oh, so from your perspective, this hypothetical European coalition, they would be liberators. >> Yes. >> Of left-wing liberal people in the

Brian AtlasUnited States. >> That's essentially. >> No, but the rightwing the right-wing No. Okay, hold on. The right-wing people are down. >> Hold on. Hold on. Let me make it better. >> Okay, how about this? Let me bring it to

Brian Atlasa different level. >> So, I was creating Maybe I should have just [ __ ] just made it super simple. as the United States currently is now, right? As the United States, not some

Brian Atlaslike crazy hypothetical where but what you believe the United States to be. So you said Trump is Hitler 2.0 basically in essence. You said Trump will go down

Brian Atlasin the history books just like in the same vein that Stalin did. [gasps] So from your perspective, would you welcome a European coalition to prevent what you think is about to happen?

Brian Atlas>> [ __ ] yeah. So, okay. So, not just like in reality, if some if some European or global coalition came in and said, "Whoa, what is about to happen, what we

Brian Atlasthink is about to happen is dangerous, uh even though really there's no evidence for this at all, you guys would side with an invading force coming into uh

Brian Atlasinvading >> the United continent." Well, I guess they could get Alaska and Hawaii, too. invading the United States. You guys side with them. >> [ __ ] yeah. >> Is that technically like trading or

Cecewaiting? >> Being a traitor to your country? >> Yes, exactly. [laughter] >> Treason. >> There you go. Treason against [ __ ] support these. >> It's exactly what happened to the bombing. Like Japan came and bomb um the

Cecewhat is it? Pearl Harbor. Like it's like basically you're saying I'm going to go with Japan even though they were like siding with the like Germany like in

CeceWorld War II. What would you what would your answer be if Japan bombed America? Well, Japan did bomb America. Would you side with America or Japan?

Caitlyn>> Well, why are they bombing America? >> To perpetuate Hitler's ideology, and we're obviously against Hitler's ideology. >> No, but it's not. Okay, you're confused. >> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, [laughter] wait, wait, wait. You don't know what happened. Pearl Harbor,

Talia>> I do know. >> No, no. Her sorry, sorry, my bad. Pearl Harbor. >> I'm not really all that surprised >> based >> I know the gist, not the specific. >> Are you guys being serious? Seriously?

Brian Atlas>> What? >> So So I'm not creating any other variables in the hypothetical. just as America currently is now. But in a hypothetical where America just

Brian Atlasprogressed as it would progress, you would be fine with a coalition of other nations invading the United States to depose Trump.

Talia>> I did not agree to that. >> That was a hypothetical. I just >> that was >> I mean if I have to pick a side I'm going to go Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> 10 to really >> Yeah. >> So then how about this? Would you be in favor? Let's just make it civil then.

Brian AtlasWould you be in favor of um an uprising, a left-wing uprising attempting to uh a a coup d'eta uh a violent overthrow of the Trump administration? Would you be in favor of

Brian Atlasthat? >> No, not a violent overthrow, but not >> Wait, wait, wait. But you said you'd be in fi foreign nations can violently overthrow, but not >> Well, it wasn't specified that it was violent. If you're specifying,

Talia>> how else would >> I don't know. [ __ ] grab him up. Take him out of here. >> Yeah, that's violence. >> Only if you start murking a bunch of people. >> Trump has Secret Service. You want to

Brian Atlasget They have firearms. >> You're going to need something strong. >> I'm sorry. It was baked into the hypothetical I posed to you. >> Oh, >> that's baked in. A foreign invading army.

Talia>> Well, okay. You're making me pick sides on this when I said that I'm not for like war, violence of any kind. So, if I have to pick a side on it, I will go with yes.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. To what? >> Either both. Both your hypotheticals. >> So, yes. Uh internal forces in the United States violently overthrowing the Trump administration. Yes.

Brian Atlas>> Sure. Yeah. >> You're far You're way too far gone. That's so You don't That's so radical. Okay. So then what is okay if that's

Brian Atlasyour position, you could not possibly have an objection to uh the right uh people on the right uh suppressing just basically being like you know what this

Brian Atlasis a dictatorship now and uh we're not having another election. Logically you couldn't actually have an objection to that.

Brian Atlas>> I mean I I do have an objection. Well, your objection would rest in a different uh a differing of ideology, but you're saying the mean like it it it's from

Brian Atlasyour perspective >> violence is justified to get your your political perspective and worldview to and to uh tear down the existing.

Brian Atlas>> I don't think violence is ever justified. You just >> But I said if I'm having to pick one, I will go with Yeah. >> versus letting the next few years run their time and there'll be another

Brian Atlaselection and a Democrat may win. >> If you think there's going to be another election, >> do you genuinely think there's not going to be an election in 2028? >> He already has said he's considering running for a third term. >> You know what satire is? You know what sarcasm is? You know what joking is?

CeceHe's not running for a third term. It's completely ridiculous. >> That's impossible. Even like that he can't. >> It's completely ridiculous. It's not never cared about what the rules are before. >> He's literally trolling. Like that's like troll behavior.

Caitlyn>> He laughed the first time after you know what a troll is. That man is 70 in his late 70s. He doesn't he's like >> he's hilarious actually. >> He's Have you seen Have you seen the memes when he caught like the president,

Cecethe Venezuelan president. He was posting some like good as I mean good memes, funny memes, like trolling. We got him. >> He might be a psychopath. But [laughter] >> he is funny. I mean, you have to admit, even if you hate him, he's funny. I

Brian Atlasthink his makeup is funny. >> A lefty or not? >> You logically you couldn't actually have an objection outside of it being just a different perspective. >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> So, [sighs and gasps] here's my perspective, right? >> Uh, no. I don't think that we should uh like even if it would like even if I could get all the things that I want.

Brian AtlasYeah. I don't think that we should do some sort of uh you know we're going to completely disregard the processes that we have in place in our country. So that's elections. I wouldn't come like

Brian Atlasthat's ridiculous and certainly not do like a violent overthrow uh in furtherance of that. I completely reject that. You guys are for it. That's [ __ ] insane. Hey, [ __ ] it.

Brian AtlasOpen the door to the other side being okay with that though. That's crazy. And you guys will lose. You'll lose every time. That's crazy. Y'all should not be the side being like, "Yeah, I'm okay with we should handle our disagreements

Brian Atlaswith violence." That's that won't end well for y'all. >> That [snorts] won't That's like >> barely spoken about this. You're saying y'all like, >> "Man, y'all crazy.

Brian Atlas>> I could make a good argument. >> Y'all y'all crazy." All right, let's get into Okay. Uh [ __ ] How about this? I need to wait until everybody What's going on with That's not going to

Brian Atlashappen. I >> Where where is she? Did she leave? >> No, she's >> uh How about you have her come back and she can just explain what's going on and if she's leaving, she's leaving. I don't

Brian Atlasknow. Um but uh [sighs] Okay. Um let's see. We One sec, guys. We're just getting something sorted there really quick. Uh guys, if you're

Brian Atlasenjoying the stream, $200 TTS, $100 read, Venmo Cash App. Uh, Adam, thank for the 10 on Cash App. Appreciate it, man. And then we have twitch.tv/w

Brian Atlaswhatever. Get some merch. Whatever.com. Uh, and yeah, I'll pull the rest up later. All right. Um, you want to just rejoin us here? I'll wait until you're sitting.

Brian AtlasI'll I'll wait until you're uh here. I'll read you Dr. Seuss. I have a Dr. Seuss book here. I also have Harry Potter. >> A Dr. Seuss book and Harry Potter.

Brian AtlasSo, what's what's going what's what's going on? Tell us what's going on. >> This isn't really my vibe. >> Why Why is that you Is it your first time hearing uh differing opinions or

Lem>> um I'm just not seeking being an internet personality? Um you know, I don't even post my face on my Instagram. Um >> Okay. >> I don't know.

Brian AtlasWell, we're pretty much done with a lot of the more I mean, I was it kind of the conversation went a bit more political. I wasn't anticipating it would last quite that long, but we're getting into some more of the more of the dating

Brian Atlasstuff. So, why don't you hang around for a little bit? How's that sound? >> I think I'd rather leave. >> Is it Is it a rage quit though? Cuz >> rage quit. Do I seem angry to you?

Brian Atlas>> Uh, maybe rage quit isn't the one. Maybe How would you call it? Blank quit. What What would you put in blank? Um, >> no more spoons, bro. [laughter] >> Actually, yeah.

Anya>> I don't know what that >> Wait, did you come with somebody or you >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> I I don't know what the spoon thing is. >> I think she should >> got to Google it. >> Okay. >> The spoon thingy.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Um, I mean, I think, you know, if women are these strong boss babe, I I think you're doing a disservice to like the women's movement and

Brian Atlasempowerment by leaving. Like, I think you staying here despite you maybe feeling a bit uncomfortable or not wanting to talk about this. I think actually would >> like if you leave that's like, you know,

Brian AtlasI'm the me the big bad mean guy. >> I don't think so. Okay. I'm not saying that. Well, you probably do think that >> I'm just trying to advocate for myself and my needs. >> Yeah, that's fine. I'm just saying I'm just saying like, you know, maybe this

Brian Atlasis why the wage gap exists. Maybe this is like >> like do we really want like if you can't handle this? >> Should should we have women in positions of power? >> More likely to work on her.

Brian Atlas>> Uh like I I can't um >> give me space out. >> I I guess we can do some adjustments now here. So, why don't we just do this? Why don't you um maybe We can change up. So,

Brian Atlas[snorts] >> okay. I guess that Did you get that on camera? Like the walkoff here? >> The walk off. >> I guess it's a walk-off. You could say, >> um, [laughter] we have >> Brian, you're being quite ableist right now.

Brian Atlas>> Do you want me to adjust a couple chairs? >> Well, yeah. So, we're going to take the small chair. She's going to take She's going to You're going to basically be sitting >> where she was sitting. >> I know. Like just a little like >> Okay. So, hold on. You're going to take

Shantelher chair. Okay. >> Can somebody help her? >> Mary or somebody? >> She's at the back. I can help. >> Okay. Um, I'll just get out of the way for now. >> Didn't she come with you, though? >> One sec, guys. We're

Brian Atlas>> Oh, wait. I'll just like move. >> Oh my god. You complicated this way too much. >> Um, all right. That's one way. >> All right. So, and let's also maybe we're going to take a mic off. >> Yeah. Put it on the ground.

Brian Atlas>> So, can you that the center one? So, Nick, what number is that? >> This one. >> Seven. >> All right. and then you'll mute it over there. So, try to put it all the way under the table. Sorry, guys. We're just uh we just had to quit. So, um

Brian Atlas>> All right. >> And then, uh All right. All right. There it is. A little more space at the table. So, uh, look, I mean, [sighs]

Brian AtlasI I from a harm reduction perspective, I I feel my mental health has because she left has tanked a little bit.

Brian Atlas>> Like it harms my mental health when people leave the podcast. >> That wasn't really considerate to be. I feel kind of offended. It's not going to be

Brian Atlas>> uh so anyways uh okay f let's here let's do this uh ask ask everyone to rate their own looks

Brian Atlasface body total on a scale of one excuse me zero to 10. You can't pick seven starting with you. >> I'll do 10. >> Okay. What about you? >> Five. >> Okay. >> Six. >> All right. >> Uh five.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> We're doing faith and body. >> Oh [ __ ] Yeah. Hold on. Hold on. >> Oh, wait. >> Wait, wait, wait. Let's rewind >> from the top >> in towards the mic. >> Yes. >> Or Okay, got you.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, gotcha. >> Here, let's do this. So, it's face body total. So, you say like 10 face, 10 body, 10 or you know, whatever it is for for all of you.

Caitlyn>> Nine face, 10 body, nine and some change. Nine and three/4ers.

Caitlyn>> All right. total average median or I guess it's not median but mean

Brian Atlas>> uh so sorry total was what nine and a half you said or >> a little bit more than that >> okay >> five face body five total

Anya>> okay >> five face six body so like five total >> I think that would be >> five and a half yeah if you average it yeah five and a half

Cece>> are we do five face, but it would do like seven. So, like five, six. >> Okay. What What about you?

Leah>> I feel like I have a nine body and like a six face, but wouldn't that come to seven and a half? Seven >> for total.

Brian Atlas>> I'm not allowed to pick seven, right? >> I guess if it's What can you do there? Yeah. >> Sorry. >> All right. What about you? I'll say face

Shantellike eight body like 6.5. So like a total of like seven point something >> face eight body seven wait or 6.5 you said

Shantel>> 6.5 >> 6.5 okay what about you next >> I'll say eight face eight body so eight total >> eight face eight body okay what about you

Shantel>> um I would say face six body eight so whatever that is in the middle

Brian Atlas>> okay um all right uh we had some answers there. Um 10. What do you say? Nine face, 10 body, you said. Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Uh >> let's move to the next. >> Look, why why don't why don't average women just think view themselves as average?

Brian Atlas>> I don't know. I'm not average, so I wouldn't know. >> I get paid for how I look. You want me to be insecure? you get well you do realize there's like obese women who make money as like plus weight models or

Caitlynplus size >> you know are we going to quantify quantify the beauty standard on all levels right now yes I have a little bit of a big nose yes I have my little big ears but I love them and people have

Caitlyncomplimented me on them without me making note of them so it's like I can app I've learned to appreciate what used to be my insecurities what used to >> but I don't understand you get paid for

Brian Atlasyour you. What are you? >> Oh, yeah. You're right. I know. Rate me. Uh, okay. Uh, I'll just say 4.5. 4.5. 4.5. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Facts. Keep your head up, King. >> So, you would be so substantially like you would be doing my bloodline massive favor. Like, you know, if we were dating, you're you're doing me major

Brian Atlassolid. >> Yeah. Yeah. Probably. >> Yeah. Um, it's interesting. Um, it's interesting. No, but I I wonder why can't why don't average women just be like, "Yeah, you know, I'm average." >> Well, you also said seven wasn't an

Caitlynoption. So, >> seven, five is average. >> Seven Seven is not average. >> There was actually some research done recently that >> Okay, tell me your research. >> Okay, I will,

Caitlyn>> Stacy. >> Um, most people will say that they're a seven whether they're above a seven or below a seven. >> That's why you can't do seven. Yeah, they say it. But [clears throat] so

Caitlyn>> I'm just saying people think they're average whether or not they're average. >> So it's like really everybody thinks they're average. >> Everybody thinks they're average.

Brian Atlas>> I'm just saying. >> Yeah. Honestly, like looking at this table, um I I'm going to be honest, everyone's

Brian Atlaspretty average looking. Some of you might be a little bit above average, but almost everybody at best is average at this table. >> Why don't you rate us?

Brian Atlas>> I can do that. >> I'll do it. Go ahead. >> Only [laughter] if Yeah. Can I You fine with I'll give you a rating and I'll be I'm not going to be a dick like you're a one. I'm not going to just be like a dick for no reason, you know? I'll be

Brian Atlasfair. Is just kidding. I'll be fair >> in good faith. Yes, I'll allow it. >> Okay. >> No. >> Okay. I'm going to do it anyways. [ __ ] it. Um Uh, okay. Here, I'll I'll do some ratings. But first, um, before I do

Brian Atlasthat, I just a couple questions. You're a 10. >> Tell me another woman who you think is a 10,

Brian Atlas>> like a celebrity or something like Megan Fox, Adriana Lima. Um, >> they are really pretty. >> Jessica Beal. I don't I don't know Jessica Beiel's face off the top of my head, but the other ones that you named are really good.

Brian Atlas>> Real They're tense. Yeah. >> Okay. So, you just as good as like what was a like top tier supermodel Victoria

Brian AtlasSecret in like the what was it? Mid to late 2000s or whatever. Like >> my body is not the same. I'm not the same. I don't look >> even face just face. I guess

Brian Atlas>> people like it. I'm not saying you're ugly. >> If you want to. It's not going to hurt my fans. >> No, I don't think you're No, hold on. No, let's be fair. Don't hurt my You're not You're not an ugly woman by any

Brian AtlasYou're not an ugly woman. >> Subscribe to my Only Fans. >> I think you're Why would Why would that help? >> I think you're like you're around average. >> You're an average looking gal. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> And what? >> I think most of the women I think most of the women here at the table are around average. Maybe some a bit below, maybe some a bit above. >> Heck, man.

Brian Atlas>> Look, hey, I I'm below average. I think I'm below. I'm I give myself 4.5. You might think I'm even lower. Who knows? >> Have you ever gone around and rated the girls on the >> uh recently we started doing it a little bit. >> Do it.

Brian Atlas>> I'll do in a moment. But hold on. Okay. Um >> Hold on. Let me Nick, can you pull up the on the Discord the We're gonna pull up the looks tab. Okay. Are we having the people rate us? Is that what we're

Brian Atlasdoing or No, >> that could be fun to do, but let's do that. That'll be funny. >> Here, why don't we do [sighs] Can you scroll up to uh Jessica Beal,

Brian Atlaslet me know you. And this is we use some of these photos in different segment that we do. So, Nick, show the one where she's in a white tank top with like a crowd in the background.

Brian AtlasYeah. Uh, that's a wall in the background, but there's another one with a white tank top. >> Oh, crowd. >> There's a crowd. >> What did I say?

Brian Atlas>> Crowd in the background. Okay. This is Jessica Beal when she was a bit younger. She's older now, so there, you know. Uh, and then show us the the one in pink, the first one or purple. My bad. Show us that one. All right. Uh, what do you

Caitlynrate her? >> Mama.

Brian Atlas>> Who? Me? >> I'm sorry. [laughter] >> Yeah. What do you rate her on a scale of zero to 10? >> A 10. >> So,

Caitlynyou Jessica Beal, >> are you sure you want to get into this with me? Because I'm about to just argue you until you can't argue. But was it was you're going to argue me till there's not Okay. Um I mean we are It is

Brian AtlasHow about this? Give me a man who's a 10. >> None of them. >> No, I'm just kidding. The one I'm talking to. How about that? >> Uh well, obviously we can't we can't

Brian Atlaspull up a photo of him. So, can you tell us a celebrity who's a 10 >> unless you're dating like Brad Pitt or something? >> Um >> probably unlikely.

Caitlyn>> Have any of y'all seen the 100? >> Yeah. Bellamy in that and nothing else. I have to agree. >> The the what? >> Bellamy. >> Bellamy Blake. You gota watch The 100. They just took it off of Netflix, but it's a really good show.

Caitlyn>> Bellamy Blake. Okay. Bellamy Blake. That's >> Trying to think if I know. >> I don't know who that is to be honest. >> They took it off. >> Yeah, they just took it off in December. >> Yeah. >> It made me pretty sad. >> Oh. >> Oh, that's a 10. >> Not with the mustache. Not with the

Caitlynbeard. >> Yeah. Yeah. Get rid of It's the character. >> It's the character. It's all the vibes. No, but I'm just asking looks. I'm just asking looks. You can't factor in the character. >> Is there anybody else you can point to

Caitlynwho you think a male who's a 10? >> I mean, I'm not saying he's he's he's a good-looking guy or whatever. >> What's that one movie? I haven't seen the movie, but it's where the guy is disabled and he promised his parents. Leonardo DiCaprio.

Brian Atlas>> Um, the >> is it me before you? >> That guy is scrum did. >> Give us a name. >> I don't know his name. >> I don't know. Google. Was is he the main character? >> Yes, he is. He's

Caitlyn>> okay. Main car main character me before you. Is that the name? I haven't seen it. I don't know the movie. >> It's actually a pretty good movie. I like it. >> People say it's sad. Really sad. I That's why I haven't watched it. I'm sorry. >> I don't find him attractive at all, though. >> Look at his smile and his dimples.

Caitlyn>> I mean, >> and their banter together. >> He just looks British. Like, >> scroll down. Scroll down. >> I don't know. I do love a good way too. Wait, wait. The one [snorts] in the with the tie.

ShantelCan you >> those pretty whites though? Okay. >> My parents. Well, I love my parents, but I want them to be my parents. >> How about the happy smile? >> So, is that um >> Wednesday? That guy from Wednesday. Like the new Wednesday.

Brian Atlas>> I don't know who that man is. >> Um so, >> you >> are there any guys who you would say are outside of your looks league >> who are better looking than you? I guess well >> objectively

Caitlyn>> compar comparatively >> probably. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. If we're going to look at the beauty standard, no, I'm not everybody's perfect ideal image of what the beauty standard is.

CaitlynAnd there's a lot of men that fit the beauty standard of what men should look like within the beauty standard. So technically, if we're looking at it objectively like that, yes. Go ahead and

Caitlynyawn at me. [laughter] [gasps] Yes. I'm I'm not as objectively attractive as those men, but I might be the most beautiful girl in the world to somebody like yourself, Brian, or the

Caitlynguy that I'm talking to or somebody that's in love with me. And they might not have eyes for anybody else. So, they're going to call me a 10. >> I'm just talking about looks, though. I'm not talking about, oh, you've built a connection with somebody. And uh >> but that changes how you look at them,

Brian Atlasright? >> To a degree. How many of these women have dated some ugly ass men and called them handsome? >> All right, I'm not going to talk about my exes like that. >> I'm sorry, but if you're dating Hold on.

Brian AtlasEven if you're in love in love with a person, I think you can still be like, "Okay, objectively, uh, yes, I I whether you're a woman and

Brian Atlasyou love a guy or you're a man and you love a woman, I think it's not like a crazy idea for a woman who's dating me, like maybe it wouldn't be the like best

Brian Atlasthing to say it to me. Like I just think that'd probably be rude or whatever, >> but like >> realistically if she's like, "Yo, Brad Pitt when he was like in his 30s." Yeah.

CaitlynHe [ __ ] moss you. Like he moss you, Brian. Like >> Yeah. >> Of course. >> Objectively. >> Of course. >> To the beauty standard that we

Brian Atlasunderstand on a societal level. >> Yeah. But that so that that would mean though that in a relationship even if you love the person if even if you're really attracted to them I think you can

Brian Atlasstill be like yeah I'm really attracted to my girlfriend. I think she's beautiful. I love her. But uh objectively do I think that there are women who are more attractive than her?

Brian AtlasYes. >> True. >> Women can do the same. Love my boyfriend. He's uh he's so attractive. Blah blah blah. But is it the case that there are men who are more physically

Brian Atlasattractive than him? Yes. I don't think that that's wrong or anything. >> Okay. >> But you are a special snowflake, I guess. Um >> I am a special snowflake. You know it.

Brian Atlas>> All right. Um >> Oh, I was going to rate Well, I need What's going on? Give it to me. We got We We need >> I'm sorry. >> Sorry. I'm making sure. >> She's She's probably fine.

Shantel>> I'm about to not be okay. And this chair is going to not be okay. Just kidding. >> Yeah. >> All jokes. >> All jokes, guys. >> She's going to need that hotline soon. [snorts] >> Dang, >> that was that was a little That was

Shantel>> You laughed at the video. >> Yeah, but he still is different. Suicide and murder. >> I laughed out of sheer uncomfortability. You laughed cuz you actually thought it was funny. We're not the same. >> I didn't say that.

Brian Atlas>> It was shocking. That's why I laughed. >> I mean, didn't you say you did? >> Make that more clear then. >> Okay. Maybe next time I go on a podcast. >> What do you think though? So you have your own perspective. What do you think

Brian Atlasif a hund,000 men rated you? What do you think the average would be? >> See, that's a better, more logical way to frame the question. >> Is that not what the question is? >> Uh, no. Obviously, >> I mean, I think they should kind of be

Caitlyninterlin. >> Yeah. Like if the world I think your rating [clears throat] of yourself, >> would you rate yourself versus how do you think the world would rate you? Those are two vastly

Brian Atlas>> I think they're tied together. I think well they should be tied together, but if a 100,000 men rated you, what do you think the average would be?

Caitlyn>> Maybe I would get between a seven or an eight. full body, face, and everything. I've got a nice body. You got to look at this butt a little bit. I'm not as plump as

Caitlynthis girl. That is straight up impressive. But uh and I'm all natural, so I don't got nothing crazy going on. But I've got a natural little hourglass. I've got nice little hips and >> okay,

Caitlyn>> little boobies, little handful. >> I can appreciate it. And men can obviously appreciate it if it's my sole income. If my objective appear

Caitlynappearance is I believe, yeah, my sole income and I can live off of that and pay my tuition, it's got to be halfway decent and above halfway decent.

Talia>> Okay, welcome back. >> Hi. I want to apologize, but I have to go cuz I'm her ride. Well, why doesn't she just come back so she doesn't cause an interruption to our production?

Talia>> I don't know. I think she is having anxiety. >> Can you Yeah. Do you want to scoot into the table a little bit for us? >> I think she is having anxiety. >> Okay. So, there's ways to cope with

Taliathat. There's ways to >> She can wait. She can sit over there, too. So, you don't have to leave. >> I don't know. We have Tylenol. >> Want to make sure she's okay. >> And we have energy. >> We have Tylenol. That sounds like a

Brian Atlasreally good idea. >> Oh, I apologize, but my friend's mental health is important to me. >> Yeah. I mean, this is kind of why, you know, when it comes to leadership positions, when it comes to the wage

Brian Atlasgap, I mean, you're basically essentially just reinforcing that women are these fragile creatures that need to be pampered and you need to be placated and you you need to be, what's the other word? Um,

Talia>> rage bait 101. >> Codled. It has nothing to do with rage. a woman. She's 18. She's not growingly. Her prefrontal cortex has not that's an adult. Okay. [laughter] So, >> watch what I say. What the [ __ ] are you

Brian Atlastalking about? So, anyway, >> that they'll think >> what? Okay. Um, I'm happy. Whatever. I'm putting my thoughts out. Okay. Um, >> no, he's >> So, she's an adult. She has the right to

Taliavote. I I don't I don't understand the her mental well-being. Okay. I yeah I mean I want to stay but I have to put her over this and I apologize and

Brian Atlasthank you for having me. >> So So you're you're leaving the podcast because your friend she she's having the >> Yeah. Do you have quits? >> Can't she just take like an Uber back

Brian Atlashome or whatever and >> No, we came from pretty far and she doesn't have the money. >> Oh yeah, sorry. She doesn't have the money. That's a really expensive Uber. >> Um okay. I mean, why does what what was

Taliaher thing? Was she wanting to just sit in the back of the studio or what was the deal? >> Yeah, I gave her >> You gave her toys? >> She has autism and I think this was over

Brian Atlasstimulating for her. >> Yeah. Well, I know that's for sure. But >> yeah. Um Okay. Um so, how about this? Why don't we just have her sit in the back or something? How does that sound?

Brian Atlas>> I don't think she wants to come back in. Yeah. Um, okay. So, can she just like There's uh Hold on. Let me go private for a sec

Brian Atlasthat >> um I don't think she is up for that at the moment. >> Uh okay. So, are you I mean, there's so

Brian Atlasmuch more to get into. We didn't even do your notes. We didn't do her notes. I mean, I'm fine with her if she wants to just hang out back there and wait for you, I guess. How about we do that? >> Uh, I can ask her if she would be okay with that.

Brian Atlas>> Do you want to just text her and then come back and report? >> Sure. >> The response. Okay, we'll do that. [sighs] >> She just never comes back.

Brian Atlas>> I mean, that might happen. I mean, look, ultimately, um,

Brian Atlas>> I think it was a pretty tame show to be honest. >> Pretty tame. >> This is like if Andrew Wilson was here, >> Dude, get him on. Get him on, please. Just at that point, >> I'm such a sweetheart. I'm such a

Shantel>> mean. >> I was really hoping he'd be on. >> Wait, what? >> If you brought her on with him, like that's just not right. >> Yeah, that would be kind of >> like That's sick. I'll pay you to do it. >> But the point I was making is Andrew Wilson isn't here.

Caitlyn>> Thank God. >> You just get very gentle, soft. >> Yeah. Brian. >> Brian. >> Unproatic. Unproatic. Brian. >> At least he'll say that he's not a racist. That I will I can appreciate that you'll be, you know, speak out

Brian Atlasagainst racism a little bit. >> Well, I'm sure his favorite women are black. So, [laughter] >> I only date black women. Actually, big labia matter. It's actually >> I got to pee. >> Just pee at the table. [laughter] The whole table's going to make

Brian Atlas>> We'll just give you a water. We'll just give you a water bottle >> under the table. Imagine that. How [ __ ] crazy that was. [laughter] >> All right, go pee. I'll talk to the other Let me talk to the other guest. >> Let me talk to the other guests for for

Brian Atlasa little moment here. All right. Oh, boy. All right, chat. Well, >> okay. [sighs] >> Hey. Hey,

Brian AtlasCaitlyn. All right, let let's get into the other guest notes here. Lumin, whatever. Oh, that's the girl who left. Okay. Uh, let's let's do uh I need to get this side of the table a little bit. I've been, you know, we got to get you

Brian Atlasguys in a little bit. >> Side turn. >> Uh, all right. Let's do Leia. Uh, so you're technically with someone, but it's open concept. You have tons of

Brian Atlasinsane stories. The list never ends. You said you're very opinionated. Uh, okay. So, like, give us three insane stories, 30 seconds each.

Leah>> Well, now that everyone thinks that I sleep with 30 guys at a time, I think that might that might justify as one. >> No, it's okay. You clarify. >> Okay, I did. >> All right, give us two then.

Shantel>> Oh, man. Off the top of my head. >> Off the top of the dome. >> Come on. You're from [ __ ] New Jersey. We're going to be sitting here. My whole life is insane. It's literally insane.

Brian Atlas>> Just pick one then. >> Pick a day. >> The craziest. [laughter] >> Come on. Jersey. Did you [ __ ] Paulie from Paulie D or what's his name? Pauly D from the Jersey Shore or whatever. >> D. No. Not my type. >> Exit on the show.

Brian Atlas>> Oh my god. >> I can leave right now if you want. >> Sorry.

Talia>> Um, yeah. I'm [snorts] going to go find her. Oh, I'm going to go find her. >> You lost her. >> Well, I don't >> How do you lose someone? >> I don't know, but I have to go find her. Their doors. >> Make sure she's doing okay.

Brian Atlas>> If If you are able to convince her to come back, I will give each of you a $2 bill. [laughter] >> All right. Yeah. Tell her about the $2 bill. >> That That's definitely worth $2. >> Do you know how much a $2 bill is worth? That's crazy.

Brian Atlas>> It's more than $2. >> That is though. >> That's a good deal. >> Well, look, I'll just say this. you and your friend for well I guess first thank you for coming although I am

Brian Atlaspickled not pickled >> I am >> no that's not the word >> I'm at a loss for words tonight a little bit I mean although that's not heartbroken

Brian Atlas>> anything new I am ruffled >> slightly gay but whatever I am ruffled that you are both leaving uh because there was much more to discuss. But

Talia>> yeah, this was not ideal. >> Wait, so why doesn't she You care about her mental health, but she doesn't care about like what you want. >> I mean, she does, but I'm going to put her mental health above me doing a podcast cuz she's one of my best friends.

Brian Atlas>> But what about your mental health? But anyways, um I would just say this as a as a parting goodbye.

Brian Atlasthe the lack of willingness to contend with views or thoughts that you disagree with that you might view I guess for her were at least triggering and look maybe

Brian Atlasthere were I don't know the the lights she said she had autism whatever I I understand it's you know in front of the cameras and all this stuff people who

Brian Atlasdisagree with you I get it it can be a lot but I think what you would espouse

Brian Atlashouse is what you're so against. We will continue uncontested to make ground socially, legally, culturally,

Brian Atlaspolitically because of the weak constitution of no offense to you. I guess it's mostly your friend. This the the strong thing to do would be

Brian Atlaslike, yeah, it's a bit of an uncomfortable conversation. Uh I don't like hearing these things, but I'm going to sit here. I'm going to defend my worldview. >> I do understand that.

Brian Atlas>> I do think if you really do believe in the things you believe in, you ought to stay steadfast and even in the face of, you know, hearing things you disagree

Brian Atlaswith, even acknowledging that that might be uncomfortable for you. being like if we're going to, you know, see our world view manifest itself,

Brian Atlasleaving a podcast, walking off a podcast, quitting a podcast because your Fifi's got a little bit hurt. >> Well, that's not why I'm leaving. >> Well, you're you're you're proxy. You're

Talialeaving in proxy to her leaving. >> Yeah, but it has nothing to do with your opinions. I perfectly fine having conversations with people with other opinions. >> Okay. Well, are you saying you want to do a round two without her?

Brian Atlas>> That could be done. Yes. >> I don't think she We'll see if she comes. I mean, look, that would be a redeeming. You want to do a redemption arc, we can have you back, but I do have to continue on with the production of the show. So, I guess

Talia>> Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. And I wish I could stay. [laughter] >> Yeah. All right. >> Bye. >> Bye. It was nice to meet you. >> Nice to meet you. [snorts] >> Body count. Do you want to

Brian Atlas>> just body count really quick? Just yell it out. You don't have to >> number >> 17 >> ratings. >> Oh, ratings. Okay. >> All right. Um, well, I'm going to adjust I want I almost wonder if I want to

Brian Atlasadjust the seating arrangement. No, no, no. Leave the chair there. We'll um Here, I'm going to do some readjustment here. Okay. So, she's going to keep there. I'm going to put you in that

Brian Atlaschair there. And then you Yeah. Yeah. So, take that center chair and then you take that center chair over there. I'm just gonna I got free space now. I can I can stretch out a little bit.

Brian Atlas>> Uh so mute number two, I guess. >> All right. Sorry, guys. We're playing musical chairs here. I apologize for the >> the the little pause in the show here.

Brian Atlas>> Hi. >> This seems much more entertaining. >> All right. There we go. >> And now we've got a little more

Brian Atlasbreathing room. Got some Lebans ROM at the table. All right. [sighs] Uh, okay. Welcome back. She left. You were gone. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. All right. Remind you guys if I can have everybody. >> They never took them. >> Who? >> Oh, when you >> after after I paid you >> the $2 or whatever you gave me. Or who? No, you gave me 25. Oh, that was nice.

Brian AtlasThat was nice. >> I expect a weekly tribute, by the way. Every single week. Oh, no. >> Have that [ __ ] on schedule. Uh, [snorts] anyways. Okay, let's get into Oh, the rating thing. All right, I guess I'll do

Brian Atlasa rating. She's gone. You guys all gave me the the green light, so we'll do it. Okay, so I'm not going to be a [ __ ] I'll be try to be fair and nice or whatever. But first, I think I should start with me.

Brian AtlasUh, okay. Okay. Uh, I said I give myself a 4.5. Uh, so I'll start with I'll say some negatives and positives. I'll start with

Brian Atlaspositives, right? Uh decent eye eyes, blue eyes, good tall, 6'1, good, somewhat decent

Brian Atlassymmetry. Negatives, so overall good eyes, but uh poor undereye area, fat, need to lose weight, >> fat. [laughter] >> So that's going to be fat in the face, fat in the body, obvious I mean they're

Brian Atlasrelated, obviously, big nose. Um I guess I'll leave it. There's more. There's more, but that's my ego can only take so much. Um,

Brian Atlasyou miss 10, Miss Perfect. >> Uh, okay. I won't rate I'm not going to rate bodies. I'll just rate face. You guys would have to like stand up and do a fit check. We're not going to do that.

Brian AtlasI'm not going to That'd be objectifying. I feel like that'd be a little too much. >> A little much. Little much. So, >> face. >> All right. Face. Um,

Brian Atlasbefore I give you the rating, I'll give you >> some positives and some some negatives. Do you have lip filler though? >> No, this is just lip gloss. >> Do you have a lip flip? >> No, I don't have nothing. >> Okay. >> Nothing except lash extensions, I will

Brian Atlassay. >> Uh, so your your lips are definitely above average. >> Hey, >> can you don't have to do that? That's okay. >> You're you're like that's crazy. Um, >> don't get

Brian Atlas>> You do have You do have Hey, well, hold on. Your lips, they're not perfect, though. They could be The bum could be a bit bigger. Top could be But they're good. They're good. Uh, good lips. Good lips, >> are they? >> All right. Don't get too horny, okay?

Brian AtlasUm, pump the brakes a little bit. All right. Get your minds out of the gutter. >> All right. Uh, you do have blue eyes, but you're wearing the [ __ ] the the [ __ ] trumpet lashes. >> I'm not going to lie, those are crazy.

Brian Atlas>> Those [laughter] are [ __ ] gigantic, >> are they? They're huge. But you do have nice blue eyes. You have nice blue eyes. Look towards me. Although I do think your eyes have like uh no makeup.

Brian Atlas>> Your eyes are slightly >> blonde. >> Uh what's the term? >> Down or [ __ ] What's the term? Uh >> wait, what? >> No, there's a term for the tilt of the eyes. You have

Brian Atlas>> negative candle. >> Negative. You have I think you have a slight negative candle tilt. Uh, you have decent eyebrows. Skin clarity could definitely use some work. >> There's no makeup. >> You have like clear skin. What are you

Caitlyntalking about? >> It's honestly it's not great. Like fantastic. Like hormonal [laughter] hormonal issues that I'm still discovering. So like my chin. >> Can you fit turn that way? >> This way or all the way or how much?

Brian AtlasHe's like brutal. >> You know what? Look, I'll just I'll just say this. I'll give you a five. I'll give you a five. >> Yeah. >> I'll give you five. Uh, >> I feel like it was pretty good. [snorts] >> Yeah. >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> He seems mean. >> Yeah, I think five is >> he's got a strict >> five is good. Um, you uh let's see here. >> Keep keep it on the face. >> Do [laughter] you have

Brian Atlascovered up? >> That's not even fair. >> Do you have Do you have lip filler? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Have you had any other Botox on your face? >> In my forehead. >> In the forehead. >> It went away though.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So you have a slight negative canthal tilt in your eyes. Your your eye color it's like hazel or >> I think so. >> Yeah. Um you you do have lip filler you said.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. And it's artificial but so aesthetically I Wait, can you turn face that way? >> No, the side profile. >> Okay. Yeah, I do see the the lip filler

Brian Atlasbump there in the lip. >> It's pretty bad. Uh, but lip filler typically is looks better from the front than it does from the side. >> Uh, so with [sighs and gasps] I personally I don't like the aesthetic of the lip filler,

Brian Atlas>> but do you have lip filler in the bottom lip too? >> Barely. It's always been >> Do you have a lip flip? >> No. >> You have a lip flip? Uh, okay. Uh,

Brian Atlas>> uh, >> are you having fun with this? >> Nice. I am. You have you have nice uh >> eyebrows. Are they natural or do you kind of >> They I'd say they're natural. >> Yeah. Well, you don't like draw them.

LeahThey're not drawn on. They're They're >> No, I I outline the shape already. >> Whatever. >> Yeah. >> Um H >> You can't think of anything nice? >> You have nice teeth. You have a nice smile.

Brian Atlas>> They're very crooked, but thank you. >> Your facial thirds are slightly unequal. >> They are. >> You You know this. >> I know this. >> Oh, you know this. >> Slightly unequal. Uh

Brian Atlasyour uh can can you turn that way? The your lower third is is uh I think decent though. It's >> like the chin area

Brian Atlas>> like the there there is decent like decent ramis decent projection. >> Good. >> Um >> but unequal thirds facial thirds. >> I agree. Uh >> what does that mean? Is it like like

Brian Atlasyour symmetry is off? >> No, not it's the mid and then the the B. Yeah, there's like lower and mid. >> There's different types of symmetry. I'm going to go ahead and give you five. >> Oh. >> Uh, okay.

Brian Atlas[sighs] >> Uh, you want you want the just the honest truth? >> Go ahead. >> Can I have you scoot your mic to the edge of the table and a little bit?

Brian AtlasYeah, perfect. >> All right. Um,

Brian Atlasyou have nice eyes. You have a positive canthal tilt. >> What does that mean? >> So your eyes are instead of being like downturned, they're

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, you have I think somewhat you have hunter feline eyes. Uh you have uh slightly

Brian AtlasI want to say slightly the forehead slightly unequal like in terms of your facial thirds. You have a good midface ratio. You have a good lower third. Turn

Brian Atlasyour head that way. >> Have you had Have you had the nose job? >> No. >> No. Okay. You have you have a good nose. Strong nose. >> That's actually my least favorite part about myself. So, >> you're perhaps [laughter] slightly

Brian Atlasbulbous, but your side profile is strong in terms I like that word. >> Oh my god. Bulbas. >> Um, good lower third [laughter] area. Have you

Anya>> I don't have any work done. Do you have the dim uh the freckle tattoos or >> Oh, I just I draw them on. >> Oh, you draw them? >> I have like natural ones, but it's winter. You see how like pale I am? They're completely lip. >> No. >> Really? >> No, I don't have

Anya>> Turn your turn that way. >> Lip flip? >> Nothing. >> Nothing on your lip. >> No, I get like laser on my face for my acne, but that's it. >> Um I think

Caitlynuh I mean >> [ __ ] tanned before this. [laughter] I think we got to give you I [sighs and gasps] >> at least a eight or a nine. Like for

Anyareal. >> I want to say 6.5. >> I think you're not allowed to say so. I don't even >> chat. What do you think? Let me ask

Brian Atlaschat. I think 6.5. I think 6.5. >> Um the chat. [ __ ] My chat's going to take a minute to catch up. It's >> um >> Go to live.

Brian Atlas>> I It's It's catching up here. I'm going to see. Um, I I'll start on you though. Um, >> you are wearing a lot of makeup. Like if you're wearing a lot of makeup, it makes it a little bit hard to >> Mhm. >> Do you have lip filler?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, I do. >> Have you had any other like Botox or >> Yeah, chin, but that dissolved already. >> Chin. Okay. Uh,

Brian Atlasokay. Some Just really quick going back to you. Some people are giving you seven. Seven. Yeah, I think 6.5 to seven would be would be fair. I I think in that range.

Brian AtlasUm yeah. Uh although y'all are wearing makeup, so I makeup kind of I don't

Caitlynknow. Makeup kind of you know I think 6.5 s um for you. No, you disagree. This is what

Caitlynis single-handedly c well maybe not single-handedly causing the male loneliness epidemic. What the [ __ ] are you talking about? Like it is we are all so all of us every single one of us is

Caitlynso much more attractive than you are. Even if we're not an object Wait, hold on. Hold on. So >> he said he's a four. >> I know, but like what the hell are you talking about?

Caitlyn>> We like We did ask for a rating. >> Yeah, we did. No, you he wanted to give us one and he had to ask us for permission. We were like, "Okay." >> But so far so far I've of the people I've rated, I've rated them more

Caitlynattractive than me. So I >> Yeah, but we're significantly. Not by half a point. Not Not by half a point. Not by one point. >> Well, I think you'd have to factor in I

Cece>> You're pretty. I like your nose a lot. I like your nose. Especially from the side. I like your nose a lot. I'm so like insecure about my front nose because it's like more like like uh in

CeceMexico there's like the as you know Aztecs and all I have that type of nose but my mom I believe her family came from Spain. I have the tall niche like the the tall like nose bridge

Brian Atlas>> but if I look straight you just that's why I love contouring contouring my nose. >> But like even if let's say I was a one and maybe you're like just out of vindictiveness you're like yeah Brian you are a one. Um, even if I was a one,

Brian Atlasyou don't need to be a weatherman to know it's raining. So, in this case, regardless of my own standing in terms of my own attractiveness, that really wouldn't have I know it's hard like you want to do this thing like who are you

Brian Atlasto judge, right? So, that would basically set this thing up where well, okay, only like a male model can give somebody looks ratings, which logically doesn't make sense. Um,

Caitlynregardless of my own attractiveness or lack thereof, I can still because I have eyes and because I'm have uh a >> If you were a model scout, I would let

Caitlynyou rate me and I would be insulted because they are truly the analysts of what is attractive, what fits the picture. You >> I'm a man. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Modelers. That's all it's all gay men. I've had a lot of women on the show. You see women in media. You see women all the time. >> Uh I don't I'm not, by the way, I'm not

Brian Atlaslike some s like there's people who break it down even like way crazier like uh I'm trying to think of um some examples. Like I have a very elementary

Leahlevel of like face analysis. >> I don't agree with that. >> What do you mean? >> You commented on the canel of my eyes. >> Yeah. [laughter] Fact. That's pretty advanced. >> I mean, it's it's kind of basic and

Anyathere's certain things I'm like not totally uh >> looking for, >> don't you? I mean, if you just like quickly like boom, >> what would it be? Like, >> what do you mean? >> Like without the hyper anal is the hyper

Brian Atlasanalysis just for justification or >> Well, I could just look and just give you a number. I I don't have to do that. I'm not like >> Okay. Okay. >> calculating out No, I can just look and instantly come to one.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. But all those like things are factors that are you almost kind of instantly you see someone and you almost instantly yeah know but then you can do

Brian Atlasan analytical breakdown. >> But yeah look I don't think I'm a bro I'm overweight. I'm chubby. >> You're not overweight. You're pretty good. >> Okay. Well thank you. >> Fluffy men are so in right now.

Brian Atlas>> Thank you. >> Look put you in like a pearl. It's a polite word for >> I ain't nothing special. But that

Brian Atlaswouldn't stop me from being able to be like, "Okay, well, she's that she's this or she's that." >> Okay,

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