She Dates Dolphins?! Andrew Wilson HEATED Debate With Feminists! ( ° °) | Dating Talk #177

Date: 2024-07-10

Duration: 9h 05m

Guests

Brian Atlas

DDeadbeat (Christine)>

AAmanda (DT177)>

AAndrea Vasquez >

EElissa Cheeseman >

SSerena (DT177)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_01Libby Spain(guest)

SPEAKER_02Morgan (off-panel)(audience)

SPEAKER_03Amanda(guest)

SPEAKER_04Serena(guest)

SPEAKER_06Andrea Vasquez(guest)

SPEAKER_07Dob Jones(guest)

SPEAKER_08TTS donations(audience)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_10Madzilla(guest)

SPEAKER_11Alien(guest)

SPEAKER_12Elissa Cheeseman(guest)

SPEAKER_14Deadbeat (Christine)(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteDob Jones introduces herself as "Dolphin Girl" and explains dolphin communication is "telepathic holographic picture talking."

“my name is DOB Jones and also known as dolphin girl and I'm an animal activist I do Dolphin Research in the cognitive Sciences of dolphin communication”

QuoteAlien reveals she is dating a tree near her house.

“there's no real story there's just a tree down the street from my house I think he's beautiful and I'm dating”

QuoteDeadbeat estimates she received approximately $800,000 in gifts/cash from men over 8 years of stripping.

“maybe like 800,000 over time I would say”

QuoteBrian asks Dob Jones if she has had "carnal knowledge of a dolphin."

“this is a dating podcast have you had carnal knowledge of a dolphin”

OtherDeadbeat tells story of Waka Flocka Flame's team dragging her into his section at a strip club; she was defended by his crew and left with ~$2,500.

“this is Waka Flocka and his team... he went forward and like grabbed me by my armpits and Drug me into the section”

OtherDeadbeat tells traumatic story of a customer masturbating on her feet during a back-room private dance.

“I open my eyes and this guy is straight up on my feet... he was just straight up jerking off on my feet”

QuoteBrian mentions Big Labia Matter (BLM) nonprofit — 10,000 labiaplasties per year in the US.

“check out my nonprofit movement big labia matter BLM for short it's really the pressing issue of our time 10,000 labia plasties a year just tragedy”

QuoteAmanda declines the self-rating question with "peace and love" and claims "we're all tens."

“I respectfully decline answering this question because I do not want to focus my point of Consciousness into the sphere... with peace and love”

ControversyAndrew Wilson argues women who self-rate 8-10/10 are delusional due to constant simping/gas-lighting in their DMs; cites "female narcissism" as a byproduct of male attention asymmetry.

“this is why you end up having a room full of women who are you know... and they go I'm a 10”

ControversyExtended heated debate between Andrew Wilson and Andrea Vasquez / guests about whether male preference for clean-shaven women is correlated with pedophilic tendencies.

“if a man prefers a woman and likes a woman to be shaved down there... is that of the nature of being a PDF file... it is a... yes”

QuoteAlien discloses race-play degradation kink — wants white men to use racial slurs but only if they seem genuinely uncomfortable doing so.

“I like degration so like... I just want them to degrade me in a racial way I know it's like it's more trauma response type of thing”

Topics Discussed

Introductions

Host Brian Atlas opens show, references Santa Barbara Lake Fire (12% contained). Guests introduce themselves: Madzilla (model/artist, LA), Alien (warehouse worker/OnlyFans, AZ), Deadbeat/Christine (stripper/OnlyFans, Riverside), Amanda (sculptor, NJ), Andrea Vasquez (jiu-jitsu coach, NJ), Dob Jones (dolphin researcher), Elissa Cheeseman (fashion grad, PA), Serena (nursing student, SB), Libby Spain (entrepreneur, TX), Andrew Wilson (debate host, remote).

Madzilla / BigMilkGang Bitcoin Donation

During intro Brian references a $100K Bitcoin donation from BigMilkGang for Madzilla.

Dolphin Communication and Telepathy Debate

Dob Jones explains her research on interspecies telepathic communication with dolphins. Andrew Wilson challenges her on scientific evidence, citing Amazing Randi's $1M prize for demonstrating psychic abilities (zero successful claimants). Dob cites a 1997 newspaper article where she called dolphins in front of a reporter. Debate covers faith vs. evidence, military ESP programs, and the nature of consciousness.

Relationship Status and Dating Histories

Brian goes around the table asking relationship status, roster size, and longest relationships. Notable: Deadbeat had 4 men paying her bills simultaneously; estimates ~$800K in gifts over 8 years. Amanda is in a 4-year age-gap relationship started on DMT. Alien is casually talking to someone for 1-2 weeks. Madzilla has a 5-year-old son from a brief hookup.

Strip Club Stories (Deadbeat)

Deadbeat shares two strip club stories: (1) positive celebrity encounter with Waka Flocka Flame — invited into his section, left with ~$2,500; (2) traumatic back-room story where a construction worker masturbated on her feet during a paid private dance. Andrew Wilson challenges the boundary-drawing logic; discussion of strip club etiquette and parasocial relationships between dancers and customers.

Trump vs. Biden: Who Would You Sleep With?

Hypothetical question: Trump or Biden? Panel answers. Deadbeat: Biden (soft old man energy). Elissa: declined (has boyfriend). Several pick Biden. Andrew criticizes everyone for missing the obvious answer (Biden would forget about it in 5 minutes).

Sassy Men Apocalypse

Deadbeat discusses the "sassy men apocalypse" — attractive mid-tier men becoming increasingly sassy and expecting to be chased. Panel discussion on gender dynamics in modern dating.

Self-Rating Round (Wisdom of the Crowd)

Andrew Wilson proposes "wisdom of the crowd" framing — asking guests what 1,000 men would rate them on a 1-10 scale. Amanda refuses to engage ("we're all tens / peace and love"). Most women rate themselves 8-10. Andrew rates himself 4. Dob Jones: 6.5. Libby Spain: 5. Extended meta-debate about female delusion, social media gas-lighting, and the epistemics of self-assessment.

Do Women Get More Attractive With Age?

Brian asks guests whether they will be more physically attractive at 35, 45, 55 vs. now. Most younger guests say yes; Dob Jones (55) says she would have been more attractive at 45 (pre-stress). Andrew argues all-else-equal, women peak young. Libby Spain invokes "law of diminishing returns." Discussion of Botox, societal standards, male vs. female aging.

Age-Gap Relationships and Social Stigma

Discussion of whether society normalizes old men dating young women in film (James Bond examples debated; Andrew asks Dob to name a movie where age-gap is promoted as good). Dob cites Hugh Hefner. Andrew argues men who date younger get called "PDF files" while women who date younger men are called "cougar" — and that the stigma on men is actually greater.

Female Condom Demo

Brian produces a female condom and passes it around. Panel reactions vary — Alien says she used one and had to get Plan B when it shifted. Amanda immediately leaves. General amusement and awkwardness.

Feminist Identity and Female Oppression Debate

Extended segment asking guests if they identify as feminist. Definitions debated (Andrew: "rejection of patriarchy"; others disagree). Discussion of whether women in the US are oppressed. Body hair, shaving preferences and pedophilia correlation debated at length. Bear vs. man in the woods poll conducted.

Race Play / Degradation Kink (Alien)

Alien discloses she is into race-play degradation with white men — but only with men who are visibly uncomfortable saying racial slurs, not ones who are eager. Traces the kink to a childhood racial incident. Andrea shares that her ex-boyfriend later revealed a financial degradation fetish.

Bear vs. Man in the Woods

Brian asks: would you rather encounter a random bear or random man in the forest? Most women choose bear. Brian offers $100K challenge to any woman who will spend an hour in a 10x10 room with a black bear. Alien volunteers. Percentage of men who would attack estimated by women: ranging from 10-20% to 50%.

Transcript

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Brian Atlaschicks can they swallow I knew you were going to say that oh my God God it's a it's a legit question like gu you know what I mean that's different because

Dob Joneswhen you the entire thing revolves animal products meaning I don't eat flesh meat and I don't eat something that's supposed to be fed to a you know

Andrew Wilsoncalf I'm because a cow has poor stomachs let me ask you well I got to follow up just very quickly on this and I became a if animal can project into your head what it is that they think and you can

Andrew Wilsontalk to them that way by what they think if you were to have chickens and you were to go to a chicken and say this egg right here is never going to actually be a chicken ever okay it's just it's

Dob Jonesalways just going to be Yol do you mind if I eat it couldn't the chicken just say yes I've never asked a chicken that question and but if you did couldn't you

Andrew Wilsoneat eggs no because it's a baby chick there's no baby chick I just told EA an embryo I don't want to eat but not all eggs are

Dob Jonesgoing to develop into chickens yeah so you can you can actually buy chickens which are bread Andrew it's just a choice so other people are okay with any

Dob Jonesanimal products and I have I don't have a problem with other people's diets it's just for me I watched an animal suffer that I used to eat underneath the water

Dob Joneswith the same emotions on this fish's face that we would have if we were dying hang on I totally understand I am going to use just two brief arguments back the

Andrew Wilsonargument chicken the egg is that if if a chicken can communicate with you and you're able to tell it this will never be a chicken I don't see why the chicken wouldn't say well then go ahead and eat it it's it's it's not like you're

Andrew Wilsonharming any it's never going to be anything right and then the second I refer to as the Kurt Cain argument against V feelings so they're okay to eat that's not he says it right in his

Dob Jonessong he says well he because he hasn't been living under the water number one he took his life unfortunately but because of all the

Dob Jonesyears I've spent underneath the water I I've watched fishes or fish they have family

Andrew Wilsonhave you ever eaten no I bet that tastes [ __ ] good oh my God doph tuna just you would be full of M tuna has a lot of dolphin in it you would be full of

Brian Atlasmercury dophins okay huh can we all get an animal before I would eat a kangaroo I heard I hear kangaroo kangaroo kangaroo Burger wait okay just she's got

Brian Atlasit just holy Fu what the [ __ ] she she's a hold on just because just because uh you got to get out here pretty soon what what kind of animal am am oh we're going back I thought we're

Dob Jonesgoing around the circle cuz at first I thought she was like a bunny but then it's like a unicorn thank you I get told a lot that I look like an elf what what

Dob Jonesabout Andrew what animal is Andrew yeah what what kind of animal is Andrew at the end um do you want to know sure no just just

Dob Jonesdo me and Andrew just do me and Andrew these girls don't care no they don't care about what animal they are I don't I want

Dob Jonesknow let find out animal a like Falcon Hawk What the fu little falcon or Hawk they're actually Falcons are like parag

Brian Atlasgreine Falcons are amazing they are cute I've worked with birds of prey so birds are my biggest okay can we we got can we get through a little quicker you know what I oh yeah okay so you want to know

Dob Jonesyour animal me yeah sorry I thought we were going in a circle it's like a fox or a um okay yeah but some people have a

Brian Atlascouple animals so just give one to just one please just one give her one give her one give her one give me one give Andrew

Dob Joneson links and panther panther we got a lot of animals in here when I did an Indian sweat with cheum mash Indians once I heard everyone's

Dob Jonesanimal after like the forest this is an AUM Indian took me to buil the you did sweat sweat with an AUM Indian and everyone when I went around

Dob Jonesand came out and said you sounded like a baby harp seal and blah blah blah everyone was like that's my favorite animal like of every sound all I could hear was their animal so what is Brian

Dob Joneswas there on the great Prairie we walked West for all go ahead

Alienelephant he's like elephant what the [ __ ] I Ryan's an elephant hey elephants are smart though I was going to say like a sharp dog Brian's an elephant they got

Dob Jones[ __ ] memories I really like elephant and he is like info gelle mad something

Dob Jonesum wait what's but I got either a bear or a wolf he's definely wolf and he could be both Andrew is

Andrew WilsonAndrew is a that's typ of his ego to Andrew is a well I don't understand everybody's a 10 why can't why can't they hype up my ego

Brian Atlasthat's not today no not today just yesterday okay and then Dove last last things here you said hot tip that most

Brian Atlasmen and women make choices from their aquatic brain Ancient Memories of attraction plus each human has distinct

Brian Atlasanimal traits that can determine compatibility between Sexes and partners it's true so this is like uh uh you wouldn't date someone that like like I

Brian Atlaswouldn't date date like a mouse cuz I'm an elephant right or could I do mouses and elephants like they [ __ ] I think they're good together I think that's what I've heard yeah like the little

Dob Jonesmouse could go up into your R your Vibes yes I just think that we have an animal sense we sense people before we even

Dob Jonesthink about them we're sensing them we're vibing on them so we're using animal senses we're using natural abilities that animals use every day what is aquatic brain though it's our

Dob Jonesancient brain aquatic brain yeah actually you know what that's probably real after we evolved after she in the endol phase some people some people

Brian Atlasstill are in the all days we're lobsters do you believe that [ __ ] we hey we we used to be we evolved from lobsters we evolved from y shout out Jordan Peterson

Dob Joneswhat's up and then our brain changed and we're more like we're born in a womb our blood moves like an ocean wave our breath moves like a wave Andrew can you

Andrew Wilsondo a Jordan Peterson impression can't do the Peterson well I can't I I don't I haven't nailed that impression I'm sorry almost any other one I can do but that one you got to get

Dob JonesJ I mean when you look at him he kind of doesn't he look like he has traits of a bear and then sometimes he a wol he's definitely a wolf yeah doesn't he look like Wolverine not Wolverine he does look

Brian Atlaslike a wolverine though I see that I need like the I could do it if I knew what to say and Brian and Brian you look like a [ __ ] elephant is that what no he doesn't look W and the Wolf and you

Dob Jonesget the elephant I got the worst one bro no an elephants are it's the worst one for sure it's got to be the worst I love

Dob Jonesyour elep are so Co I'm I'm really like elephants are cool that's right that's cool yeah yeah only

Andrea Vasquezfly trample entire Villages like you got this yes I'm a war elephant yeah you are with the test did you hear about the elephant

Dob Joneslike the funeral you just did that without noise heard so aquatic brain aquatic brain some kind of cat but then also like really I feel like she's like

Brian Atlasa do I was thinking that too she hold on just just point of clarification when you say aquatic brain you're talking like is that like oral sex underwater yeah have you tried that

Brian Atlaswaito you can't do this that doesn't work I mean one time I did breathe under who was a diver she was a scuba diver and she tried she like sex sex in the b

Dob Jonesin the hot tub in the bath I want some all that stuff is great give me that H2O no but the Aquatic brain is kind of

Brian Atlaslike how we make decisions okay all right we don't logic comes after so so what kind of an like what kind of animal in a person am I

Brian Atlasmost compatible with since I'm a I'm a I'm me what kind of girl should I look for someone someone who loves Africa

Alienhuh oh elephants are in Asia too yeah but L's like yeah why did you make eye contact again that's no I'm just saying

Dob Jonesthat that elephant unicorn when you think about elephants everything about them is family they have like a really great memory

Dob Jonesthey're they go are there any Asian women in Africa they'll kill for their their own there's Asian elepant Asian there's Asian elephants yeah there's as got date something wait so I have to what about

Brian Atlasthe Africa thing no I'm just saying that like the Safari like they like Africa so it could be like a like a white colonizer sorry was that was that loves

Dob JonesAfrica was is that a bit yes that a bit much you already said it thank you Desmond gotcha and actually unicorns come from Africa

Dob Jonesbecause are kind of a horn here so when you look up a real horse with a horn yeah like back in right after the

Brian Atlasdinosaur a little bit of a unicorn horn anyway it's been a pleasure thank you for letting me give me one more animal though that I would pair off oh that you yeah yeah cuz I'm on the

Brian Atlaslookout I'm you know I'm looking but it could be an Asian animal too someone who likes peanuts peanuts whoa whoa whoa wait this is crazy this

Brian Atlasis crazy hold up hold up this is crazy I think Andrew listen to this bro listen to this I you're I got to question now

Brian Atlaseverything all your intuition because you said somebody who likes peanuts did you say did you I'm allergic I'm allergic to peanuts your telepathy your aquatic brain I sorry but what if

Unknown backgroundOpposites Attract she said peut she said peanut I thought she said the p e n i what that's what I heard that's no she said I got to date a girl who likes peanuts she also lik she could also like

Brian Atlasbananas why would I date a girl who likes who doesn't like that's why I was so shocked what if it was opposites of tract and that's like a girl who's a lesbian you want

Dob Jonesme she ate peanuts than you she's opposite of you she likes peanuts and he peanut for you yeah wait no but I can't kiss her if she's just eating peanuts well she's not

Brian Atlaseating peanuts every day peanut butter your telepathy failed how did you not know that I was allergic to peanuts I also said bananas hello so

Dob Jonesyou like you like bananas Banas a monkey huh monkey you could date a monkey for you ohow oh a monkey yeah good Daye to

Dob JonesMonkey kind why you saying a prefence you don't even know like a gorilla monkey about like an aart how do they call one of those an a

Brian Atlastag I don't know what the [ __ ] we're talking about uh well Dove it's been a fun I thank you so much for coming I know you got to get back to taking care of the animals I'd love to have you back

Brian Atlaswe can dive more into dolphins and Aquatic brain and I'll talk about the science

Dob Jonesbehind hello bear rubbing his ass on the tree sorry yeah I couldn't help myself buty even paying attention I don't think no

Dob Joneshe's not he's kind of like you but we could talk about the science of animal communication next time okay I I would actually really like to do that we will you know what we should have a

Brian Atlasone-on-one sit down with Andrew and Dove when Andrew's here I'll make it happen oh are you going to come here oh yeah he's going to be here he's going to be here in person yeah oh in person and

Andrew Wilsonyou're going to see him yeah never mind right isn't his wife in the chat yeah can you can you how did we get to this how did we

Brian Atlasget to that that's it that was quite that was quite the job thank you it was nice to meet you by the way have a good night it's going to be

Brian Atlasanother late okay try to get through all the notes here they need like oh man it's already where's the socer ball

Andrew Wilsonyeah it's uh it's 4:00 a.m. over here I got to I got I got to wrap here pretty quick yeah uh oh we got to do Alien aliens dating apps bye see bye can you

Andrea Vasquezpull up the dating app for alien Nick wait is it to No like is the booty hanging

Brian Atlasoutting it's about to get spicy nothing like crazy okay cool cool just double checking the energy for the whole

Brian Atlaspodcast love this so fun okay uh hi I'm alien wait alien can you read the read it for me hi I'm alien

AlienI identify as a freak of nature I have tentacles coming out of my ass four nipples oh sorry four four piercings in my yitties and

Alienthen also and my titties and then also I have a tongue split I am a whole dream true wait hold on can we see the tongue

Elissa Cheesemansplit yeah I didn't notice that oh that's so cool damn that's crazy that's crazy she's the Unicorn yeah damn

Alienmythical magical how long did it take for that to heal uh just two two weeks okay yeah I just got it done uh after Christmas or right before Christmas and

Brian Atlasthen wait bring it back Nick to the same photo oh my that's a what the [ __ ] are you arler what the [ __ ] what the [ __ ]

Brian Atlasuh the pict what do you mean by tentacles coming out of your butthole do you have like worms no do you have parasites bro cuz you should see a

Aliendoctor for that I have the anime parasite tatted on my ass and it's coming out and it h like it's not done

Alienyet but yeah I got it because of have you guys ever heard of octob booty no yeah yeah I met her I told her like you're a really big inspiration of mine

Alienlike I really want to get the same thing as you but I don't want to copy you here's my like what I have in my brain what I Envision and she was like babe do it and so I just went whenever I got

Alienback from New Jersey cuz I went out there for a show and I came back and I found an artist who would do it I think I spent like $2,000 so far on it that was my next question yeah but I really

Brian Atlaslove it ,000 I love that's so cool yeah it makes me happy uh what are the other photos okay yeah that one's okay it just kind of looks B okay next we'll skip

Brian Atlasover that are there prompts or is it just photos um there both okay photos are kind of first okay let's do those all right that's you yep

Brian Atlasnice nice uh okay 5 foot 6 her they Fay non-binary your part Fay

Brian Atlasokay goth mix next the hottest thing you can do bring me a gift preferably from nature okay Che is that it or open new all right

Alienboys so that what dating app is that was Tinder this is Tinder yeah did they CH I haven't been on Tinder in a while they Chang hey uh to the whole panel I really

Andrew Wilsonappreciate you guys um and the exchange that we had I have to get out of here a little bit early tonight I have an engagement in the morning uh it was nice to meet all of you I know we had a

Andrew Wilsonspirited back and forth I take none of it personally uh I enjoy the exchanges um and with that I'll B you good evening hey Andrew Andrew thank you uh oh Andrew

Brian Atlasare you able to send us a raid of course awesome thank you Andrew hey uh everybody who's watching uh check out Andrew's Channel The Crucible we have the link in the description drop him a

Brian Atlassub thank you so much for tuning in uh tuning in again Andrew oh okay see you later later Andrew like [ __ ] it I'm out uh thank you Andrew appreciate you coming thank you

Brian Atlasuh I'm going to see if The Crucible crew I think he's sending us sending them over right now appreciate you guys over there at The Crucible uh coming over so

Brian Atlaswhere were we oh the dating app Tinder yeah we did we did it though yeah okay uh you said when it comes to dating I'm the problem yeah probably what does

Alienthat what does that mean I just know that I have like a lot of stuff that's wrong with me personally that other people aren't equipped to handle like I have like the weirdest like phobias I

Aliencan't do Band-Aids tape I can't do stickers I don't like wet paper um I freak out about bathrooms like I am just very

Aliencomplicated person so for the most part I know that it's just me I'm the problem and most of the time I just don't want to deal with other people that's not necessarily a problem that's just no it's a problem how you are right I mean

Alienit's a problem like it BEC yeah no it becomes like very crippling like I had one guy stop talking to me because it was like your bathroom situation is too much and I was always like come out here and like hang out with him and stuff

Alienlike that and then I would be like I can't take a shower at this uh Airbnb or this hotel like I have to go to Planet Fitness and he was like literally Planet Fitness is like way worse and I'm like I literally can't do

Alienit here this feels like a little too claustrophobic for me like it's a whole thing and like what's going on with your bathroom it's not my bathroom it's like

Brian Atlaslike like all bathrooms can't deal with bathro youan you can't go to the bathroom in a

Aliendifferent bathroom it has to be your bathroom no like it's triggers a sort of like phobia but I'm not not sure what sometimes it's more about like what it

Alienlooks like you know generally and it doesn't even have to be dirty like you can walk into a bathroom right [ __ ] out and be like this is fine pristine what about our bathroom is it a good bathroom it's fine I wouldn't take a

Unknown backgroundshower in it but I can use I can use the toilet you toilet what about like Planet Fitness bathrooms make you favor I hate it there too about the same time it's

Alienjust like it feels less claustrophobic like the Airbnb that me and my best friend have right now the shower was like I could barely even move in it and it like I don't know why but whenever

AlienI'm in a shower and it already bothers me but I'm like I have to lock in and just take the shower I can come out of the shower and just be like a chihuahua and just be like trembling so you do you have a lot of phobias yeah I have a lot

Alienof phobias do you and um you said like the Band-Aid thing yeah Band-Aid stickers you can't put like on you I don't like it if it's on me for way too long like I've been trying to get better better at it ever since I started like

Alienjobs cuz I was working at like Sonic and stuff and like you know they use a sticker to put the receipt on there and I had to get better at that sorry go off

Alienoh do you have trip tripofobia trophobia I used topophobia disgusting I used to but Trypophobia now it's Terri like I

Alienwhen I yeah when I boil water I get like scared cuz it like bubbles up and there's like that gives you trip of okay I used to take showers and I would like look at myself in the shower and I would see like the bubbles and that would trip

Brian Atlasme the [ __ ] outes does anybody want a new fear you want a new fear yes we pull up trophobia oh my gosh uh Nick just Google uh Trypophobia and then there's like

Elissa Cheesemanjust a actually not I'm not going to [ __ ] wait is this what they're scared of no we can't show that it's not bad it's not terrible but just holes is it going to make it's kind of creepy I'm not

Brian Atlasgoing to lie it doesn't really make me uncomfort I'm not like super super like scared from it close [ __ ] it we're not going to do with dating okay uh look it

Alienup the [ __ ] that it's challenging for dating when you have that many phobias also I also like I my weird ass self right like even like with the bathroom situation I

Aliencan't even have the lights on like I have to take a bathroom at night or with the lights off or the door shut with the lights off like I can't look how do you see in the back um sometimes I have like

Alienmy phone open like a where I'm at I have like two separate rooms so like there's one room where there's a sink and the other room has like the toilet and the shower or whatever so I put my phone in

Alienthe room with the sink let that like light kind of vibe off and like look at it from there but yeah yeah it's like a whole thing I know I'm like why can't you why can't you look uh anyways

Brian Atlaswhatever uh you said just think most men are struggling cuz they hold their s their selves in an unattractive way yeah like like how I just don't think that a

Alienlot of guys are caring about theirselves you know what I mean like they say that they care about like money well not money but to get a girl they have to care about money and blah blah blah

Alienand they don't really focus on their looks well see a bunch of guys say like we don't have to you know what I mean we don't have to really focus on our looks that's not we're look for but or if they

Aliendo Focus then it's like oh we all have to look like [ __ ] Giga Chads and I just don't believe in that and I think that's toxic um I think that I don't know there's a bunch of

Alienstuff that guys do that are unattractive and it's even just like personality wise as well just not even just like looks um but personality wise like for me

Alienpersonally what I find unattractive is like I could be talking to a guy or whatever and I don't care I can give them like all the respect in World blah blah blah this now and the other we can hang out multiple times and half the

Alientime it will be like he wants to not even half the time all the time he wants to do [ __ ] that's his that he wants to do but whenever it comes to like oh I just want to go painting oh I just want to go to a park and then it's like no

Alienand then I find that unattractive so yeah there's got to be a give and a take yeah not just one-sided yeah but I'm not sure if it's me and because because of

Alienmy dating experience with guys and a lot of them feel like they need to how do I explain kind of like show off to me so it's like I want to show

Alienyou this part of my life and that's it but whenever I'm like well I would like to bond with you and show you this part of my life then they won't do it and then it's like how do you expect me to like you if you won't do anything with me like I have this one guy I was asking

Alienhim like do you want to go to a concert with me he's like no I rather save that moment for something house or like if you want to just chill out and smoke with me he's like no I'm just going to do it with my other friends like he just

Aliendidn't want to do anything with me yet every time I see him he's like I really like you and I really want to date you and I'm like you're not showing me anything you know what I mean that tells

Alienme like you actually like me you're more so just trying to prove to me like it's a whole thing did we on the last show did we go over the whole making out with

Alienthe racist and the the something about the Nazi what we did you made out we talked about that we I made out with the yeah

Alienprobably he wasn't it Happ okay it's like a couple different stories that he I end up talking to a lot of racist people that's my fault and only my fault there's a lot of them out in the world

Alienit's hard not to it's hard yeah it's tough they're out there tough I also like a degradation thing um a degradation thing you want to be degraded can't say certain things

Alienbecause of my tongue but or pronounce certain things because of my tongue but like yeah I have I like degration so like I just don't I don't know oh [ __ ]

Brian Atlaswait I know exactly what you're I think I know exactly what you're wait hold on wait yeah yeah yeah race play okay I

Brian Atlassuck man um wait so you like and hold on but I'm assuming this is something you do with white guys then only white guys only white anyone else so I'm just like it doesn't work you

Alienknow you know yeah wait so like what would is it roleplay stuff or you just want him to degrade you in a racial way I just want them to degrade me in a racial way I know it's like it's more

Alientrauma response type of thing uh because I had something happen whenever I was like super young uh where they did come at me in a racial way and

Alienlike Ed me and stuff like that and I just know that it just sticks with me and blah blah but I typically go for guys especially when it's white guys when I do ask them to do that it's not

Alienthe ones that are like straight up like if I say hey can you do this for me right now they'll do it immediately I'm like as soon as they'll do it immediately I'm like out of my face you got like but it's like if you feel

Brian Atlasuncomfortable saying it then I'm I [ __ ] with that because that already mean it's like you don't wait so you want them to question like question themselves while degrading you yeah like it's a

Elissa Cheesemanquestionable yeah like so you don't want them to actually like yeah you want to you want to be able to tell that they don't mean it while they're doing it kind of thing CU that's yeah and that gives heres

Alienwant they don't actually they don't actually mean it mean they're not coming after to me to hate me you know what I mean type [ __ ] yeah has a guy ever called you like in the bedroom like did

Brian Atlashis voice crack while like if his voice cracks while he's calling you a slur is that like wo that's so hot that's never happen because no one will call me

AlienAx oh but you I thought you I want them to they do it beforehand it's like the foreplay I guess but they won't do it during sex because that's not what they're thinking about now if I was

Libby Spaintalking to someone who probably was racist then they probably would just drop it right away even during sex cuz that's what they're thinking about but but like you said the the guys that are that are too eager to to appease you on

Andrea Vasquezthat you're like no no they went they went too easily on yeah can I make a point about that real quick on like the degradation thing you're into it too no

Andrea Vasquezbut my ex that I said that sucked me in a bush oh my gosh he messaged me a bit ago and was like Hey like trying to get back in touch and stuff and he's like

Andrea Vasquezwould you be able to like be mean to me like could you could you like be really mean to me and I'll pay you and stuff and I'm like this is crazy cuz I never knew that about him yeah he said he'll

Andrea Vasquezpay me and I was like well I never did it but he it was crazy cuzz I never knew that I never knew he had like that type of fetish before I have like the opposite thing like a praise King praise

Brian AtlasKing yeah but not like like giving but not re I mean receiving fine but like oh yeah giving prefer giving yeah it's crazy what you learn sometimes

Andrea Vasquezsometimes like you think back you think I thought back I'm like this makes so much sense now from when I was like younger I'm going to totally shift gears here okay going around oh okay these are going to be rapid fire especially since

Brian Atlasuh you know whatever who uh you're in the forest would you rather come across a random bear a random bear or a random

Alienman in the forest me first okay can you Cent her your thank you thank you she already knew I feel like it doesn't even have to

Alienbe a man it just a person in general i' rather be in the forest with a

Elissa Cheesemanbear man a man a bear I think I want a bear too a man man wait so

Elissa Cheesemanbear bear bear these you two two bear and then you two right yeah yeah wait are you you're a bear or you want a

Alienman why bear not a man at all it doesn't matter a person me in general just like I I choose bear because I just don't trust people I don't like people like

Alienthat I don't trust women I don't trust men um it depends if like you tell me like oh it's going to be your best friend or my brother that's going to be

Alienin the woods with me then that's fine but anyone else I'm like I'm okay she's one with nature anyway so it's like why

Andrea Vasquezbear be because they seem easier to mitigate considering certain circumstances I might know what to do in a situation

Andrea Vasquezwith bear have you ever come across a bear no but I've heard do you know what not to do with a bear what not to do don't

Libby SpainRune automatically screwed if a man you never know could happen the bear you're definitely dead it depends on attacks you uh why bear why did you pick bear uh

Elissa Cheesemanbecause if I'm wandering through the woods and I just see like a random man like nearby like I'm instantly going to be like what are you doing here like I have some like mistrust of you like I feel like you might not have nefarious

Elissa Cheesemanintentions but you look suspicious and I'm staying away from that a bear why do you assume he looks suspicious because that's just my automatic like if I'm walking through the woods alone and then all of a sudden there's a random man out

Elissa Cheesemanthere like I'm going to be like I'm turning back like what are you weird weird presence I'm going a different we're not going to walk down the same Trail like I will oh I'm so sorry I'll change paths like to go the other way

Elissa Cheesemanaround the man but a bear like that's its like natural home like I feel like I like can kind of like evaluate what it's going to do more like I guess trust in its Natural Instincts more than what

Unknown backgroundthis random man is doing out in the woods is he following me I don't know the man is out there for the same reason that you're out there though like you explor randomly plopped in the woods it

Libby Spainjust would be unnerving to run into any person when you're not expecting it but I think it would be more terrifying to run for me to run into M on the ground

Brian Atlaswhich one is it what number uh they five five okay thank you thank you uh okay do I bite late uh the bear y'all crazy

Unknown backgroundpicking the bear that's crazy well you didn't specify what bear though huh you didn't specify a bear what if it's a koala bear like a sun bear mhm we also didn't

Brian Atlasspecify what kind of man but that's the whole point yeah I I actually want to do I I don't know uh if I could get my hands on a I'll do a black

Brian Atlasbear I would be willing to pay a woman $100,000 we get to record it we stream

Brian Atlasit Mr Beast she gets to $100,000 she has to go in a 10x10 room room with a random

Elissa Cheesemanbear for an hour or no that's just it any girl who says that she'd rather she'd have to beun die

Brian AtlasI volun that changes volun are there any lawyers watching like there's got to be one like can can if if you do this and

Brian Atlasthe bear like kills the person assuming they signed a waiver doesn't matter beforehand like am I still have liability if the person but they know I

Brian Atlasmean they know they're okay we're not going to hide the fact that it's a bear uh they have to sign a waiver they have to sign a release actually could

Brian Atlasyou I mean it's kind of assumed risk any lawyers in the chat I don't know maybe the same that on TV show where like it was a tiger oh never mind practical jokers had on their TV

Libby Spainshow they put him in a room with the tiger oh but the tiger was like tied and stuff like it couldn't actually Hur okay yeah I was going to say check the same contracts that they sent on the submersible down to the Titanic I guess right I feel like that could be possible

Unknown backgroundcuz there's this like show where like people pay to get tortured I was going to bring that up no it's way it's like a house and like a forest that you go to I yeah and they have to sign a waiver that

Brian Atlasthey like even though they asked someone to leave they can't leave but like okay the waiver says like you could very well yes cuz they torture you no no I'm

Brian Atlastalking like I'm talking for the bear thing oh yeah yeah would it be we need a lawyer we need a lawyer to I will do this though I will pay I will pay $100,000 to a woman I don't want to be I

Alienalready said I volunteer so alen wants it she wants to be the first yeah okay I got you I'm like a Whisperer of animals oh yeah you should bring I'm kidding guys I'm

Brian Atlasobviously that would be really will keep you safe uh all right uh so okay the bear thing y'all crazy though picking the bear that's don't you think that's kind of sexist well y'all kind of

Aliensexy Bears typically won't attack you unless you panic so exactly and I'm not going to Panic or if they're H I'm going

Libby Spainto be like or they have young cubs nearby that you haven't seen cuz they'll but they're doing LCT yeah

Brian Atlaspredictable yeah they're predictable you think Here's the final question on this I won't I'm not really going to debate it but uh those of you who said There

Brian Atlaswhat so what then what percentage of men do you think would opt to uh attack you victimize you in some sort of way in this

Brian Atlasscenario percentage in the wood scenario like you want that percent yeah because I mean you're you're doing you're kind of doing a risk assessment here to the point where you would prefer prefer the

Brian Atlasbear so what is the actual risk assessment like what percentage of men do you think would try to attack you harm you

Elissa Cheesemanwhatever I mean couldn't it like be a 50/50 though since you don't really know what like pool you're grabbing these random men out of and like so you really have no idea like it could be good it

Andrea Vasquezcould be bad like I would say I would say actually my answer would be I don't know like if you might think my answer would be with like 20% maybe 10 but

Andrea Vasquezthat's that like sneaky statistic that you you got to be watching out for you'd have to say it' be a low it would be a lower number but it'd be like a that's kind what percentage of men in

Andrea Vasquezgeneral would but he was saying it's not like a high percentage but it's definitely a percentage which still makes

Elissa Cheesemanit so you think like 50% of men would opt to Hurt No not in like real life but like if if he's saying like we're doing this in the woods scenario so like where I'm

Elissa Cheesemanjust being placed like I'm in the woods and we place a random man in the woods with me I'm just saying there's a 50/50 chance that that random man that is placed in the woods with me could be good or it could be

Unknown backgroundbad so your percent or we'll just move on I guess um okay going with 80

Brian Atlas80% 20 10 20 what 5050 50% damn y'all crazy y'all crazy that's some that's sexist y'all sexist can I ask what that

Andrea Vasquezhashtag is Big liia matter y uh I can't actually wait I can't pull it up on SEC Nick had to step away hash big laia matter you're curious about the hashtag yeah are you

Brian Atlasrocking is that why you're I was no I was wondering you want to tell us something you want to tell us something I was just wondering what was going on did you have like a so I I uh

Brian AtlasI am a feminist and I defend women why did your

Brian Atlasvoice listen I don't think I don't think women should be shamed if they're rocking if they

Brian Atlasgot a large labia Is that real oh facts is what real what you just said like she's asking if you're being genuine I no I I know I'm kind of saying it in the

Brian Atlassort of satirical way I it actually is genuine though jokes aside I don't think anyone should be shamed for the way they were way they were born whether the man

Brian Atlaswoman you can't control PP size I don't think we should be doing the small dick energy big dick energy I think it's offensive to the men a regular you know we can't you can't change that in women

Brian Atlasif they if they got large large coochie [ __ ] lips they shouldn't you shouldn't shame a woman I don't think you should shame a woman if

Andrea Vasquezshe's got large lebia I also exclusively date women with large laia we're going for the calls that's

Brian Atlasnot true I'm kidding but I'm a fan he's a all I like don't get me wrong all [ __ ] great but I do have a bit of a preference on this what started this what do you mean like

Unknown backgroundhow did you get on this I'm not sure actually to be honest I don't know why you probably from a girl that you slept with for duhh I don't I don't know if it

Brian Atlaswas even uh like so one day he just woke and like I love large labia honestly it might have honestly it might have been just being totally honest I I've never even talked about this on the show I

Brian Atlasthink it was probably just from porn okay it could have been from porn like I just was like okay that makes looks cool I like as oppos preferences don't get me wrong though I don't

Brian Atlasdiscriminate I'll still he'll take them either way I guess I'll accept an any I'll accept an N I guess so does that answer your question yes yeah I was wondering if it

Brian Atlaswas like real or not yeah Nick can you pull up my nonprofit organization please oh sure yeah big big labia matter BLM oh

Brian Atlasyou got your uh tax exempt status there I'm working on it boys big lab gr 10,000 10,000 women a year in the United States

Brian Atlasget a surgery to chop off I've heard their lips labia plasty very very upsetting it upsets me true I don't like

Brian Atlasit and if I can save just one woman from getting a labia plasty I have actually I've had like a lot of women D I've had

Brian Atlaslike over aund women DM and they're like Brian I've I've never heard a man talk about big [ __ ] lips before you're the only one it is cool though that you're

Libby Spaindoing all all of these save them thank you I'm a I am I am doing a

Libby Spainservice it's a Ministry almost I am doing something really cool yeah there's

Brian Atlasno there's definely no women out there like micro matter hey me I [ __ ] with microen [ __ ] you start that but uh yeah

Brian Atlas10,000 surgeries a year it's unfortunate look also there's a I I also and there's the surgery component but there's also like fake news about it like okay if a

Brian Atlasif a girl has an Audi then that means she's run through right no that's not at all it's like this weird like the more if she's had a lot of sex or a lot of

Brian Atlassexual partners that's going to cause her to have no trust you could be a you could be a virgin you could be a virgin and have an Audi you could have had like

Andrea Vasquezthousands of [ __ ] and have an any so have did you hear um that comedian who was like oh yeah that like what was his name again I forget his or hers his name

Andrea Vasquezit was recently um that he was like the hotter comedian that was on a podcast that was like I don't like this

Andrea Vasquezabout women Matt R mat [ __ ] Matt R [ __ ] Matt R [ __ ] Matt R get him out of here

Brian Atlas[ __ ] that saw was he sh he talked [ __ ] on my sisters with large labia really that's I didn't know that that shit's [ __ ]

Brian Atlasup if I saw him in the street I'd be like [ __ ] you Matt Ry you should don't talk about yeah and you might see him on

Andrea Vasqueznext time you see him you say that I will I will debate Matt r on puss also do you like women like really though at that point cuz you're like having a

Andrea Vasquezpreference like to him does that is that like that means I'm gay no to Matt R like does he even like women if he's saying that I don't know that's a really that's fair you can

Brian Atlasask um but uh what was I saying uh big laia no they make they make F and they make they make fun of

Brian Atlasthe women too it's like roasty wizard sleeve Arby's beef curtain yep it's not fair it is not it's not but I also push back just as much

Brian Atlasactually this was going to be one of the topics of the show I'll pull it up right now thank you for bringing the sub uh Nick there's a Tik Tok page oh yeah there's a Tik Tok it was uh is it okay to make fun of men for having

Andrea Vasqueza small D oh bringing it back it should be a Tik Tok bring it back back around full circle abusive ex had like the

Brian Atlastin so funny I didn't know that rude it's an abusive it's not rude make it bigger next bigger bigger all right

Brian Atlaseenie weeny teeny okay 60 there's been 60,000 videos using this sound and I don't know if we can can we play it I

Brian Atlasdon't know uh we can probably play a little bit but hold on uh make it smaller yeah go back I'm trying to find the PO there's a popular one that wait

Brian Atlasscroll back up scroll back no no no what the [ __ ] is going on okay and so uh click that second one m782 605

Brian Atlasyou can yeah we're going to need audio just got braces she the audio might be loud so play it from the

Madzilla[Music] beginning get the [ __ ] out of here pause it so anyways uh so it's got 2.4 million

Brian Atlaslikes plenty of comments um and there's 60,000 of these videos using this sound and it's just like man that's

Serenacrazy maybe people just just find the sounding about a small D energy yeah that's wrong yeah yeah it's just as

Alienwrong also like empowerment like stuff as well for like tiny sorry but like there's like Cody Co has

Elissa Cheesemana song called like tiny me gang or something they they take the power back yeah and it's slaps like it's actually good you're taking the power back never heard the song but I'm interest yeah me

Alienneither haven't heard is that like the only thing that you can that's the one that I have I heard other people talking about like their meat and stuff like

Elissa Cheesemanthat but I'm not I don't really sit around like yeah micro penis you know what I mean I just don't give a [ __ ] about SI I really don't I couldn't tell you how little it's crossed my mind

Elissa Cheesemanabout micropenis say yeah literally never crosses my mind I don't think about him just you know

Aliendon't so is that s preference micro what is that song it's called tiny meeking by is that really a song yeah it is how old is it is it like like it's a couple

Alienyears old I think yeah it's been out for a little bit it's Natalie didn't show it to us it's so good what's everyone's type I don't

Elissa Cheesemanthink I really have a type honestly like I hear a lot of people say that Morgan just cuz like I don't know like I don't care like what their hair I just want they need to be like groomed they need

Elissa Cheesemanto have like cleanliness like standards be kind like funny like personality standards honestly or what I kind of look for is there anything that like physically you are more attract Ed to

Elissa Cheesemanthough probably though like longer haired boys as opposed to like a buzz boy or I mean a man bun can be cute but you have you have to like you have to know how to like style your hair like I

Elissa Cheesemanlike a boy who cares about like personal maintenance like he wants to like make sure his hair looks good he's going to moisturize he cares about how he dresses

Libby Spainlike little cutie that's what I got okay I like a guy that's athletic and rugged and knows how to fix stuff and

Elissa Cheesemanyou know I just find that that's like a man a man that knows how to like hang something on the wall please no I don't know I like to do that hang something on wall I I'll hang something on your wall

Elissa CheesemanI would I love to do like house stuff like that give me a saw I'll come over there I'll do what you what needs to be done we're going to we're going to

Elissa CheesemanInterior Design This would you take like a more like feminine boy yeah I think so I don't yeah I really don't have like too big of like preferences like that like I know things like that I

Elissa Cheesemandefinitely like don't like but it's not like and obviously they have to like be like there's a certain like attractive level like that I F see and it checks

Elissa Cheesemanout then I'm like okay but I don't really I don't think have too big of like looks standard or preference I felt

Alienthat like for me personally I like chubbier guys sometimes fat um yeah but I don't like muscular guys and sometimes I like skinny I had this one skinny guy

Alienlike we did mushrooms and then we were cuddling and then he looked at me he was like damn alien you're buff and I was like oh no so ever since then I'm like I can't [ __ ] with like skinny guys yeah I

Aliencan't mine it can't work yeah it was weird but I'm not like too specific on like racial type of stuff like I know say some stuff about race things but in

Alienthat was in a fetish context yeah like in general I still do talk to black guys I do talk to Arab guys I still I the guy that I'm talking to is Asian right now

Alienum he's he's hot but he's definitely not my type so I like guys who I feel like are unconventionally attractive but yeah

Libby Spainwell and and see for me it's like that energy that they put off has to be the right kind of energy you know that's true because I do like an alpha man but he he also has to be somebody you're

Libby Spaingoing to feel safe with that you're totally feel like they're your shade tree that protects you from all the meanness and and ugliness in the world too right they're going to have your

Libby Spainback they're going to that's a cute way to say it yeah I like the way you put that too so you know I don't mind being that soft comfort for my man and just

Libby Spainthe same right like they're out there fighting for whatever they have to do to protect and provide and then come home and I want to treat them like a king

Libby Spainright so I mean I feel like it's as long as you you have two sides to it and both people are doing their part you're going to find the happiness right but like we

Libby Spainwere talking about earlier um all the different traumatic things I don't I don't like the word baggage I think life experience

Libby Spainsome some are great some are not so great right but I feel like it just makes you who you are and like for instance the things that I've been

Libby Spainthrough I mean I haven't even given you the tip of the iceberg right but the strength that I have as a result of that it I've I've grown I've been challenged

Libby SpainI've overcome you know whatever I don't I don't like thinking of of U someone a woman as a victim of their past right you want to you want to just go and be

Libby Spainyour best self every day but then at the same time the more struggles and things like that that you've overcome you're going to need a man who can meet you

Libby Spainthere right who can who can recognize that strength and see it as a desirable quality and um can I'm sorry it can be a

Libby Spaingood match good match right and if and if what you need is a is a a softer to help you heal there's times in life for that too right because things it's

Libby Spainit's a a flow like a river in your life things up and down you have a different thought yeah I'm so sorry don't apologize when it comes to baggage and stuff like that like I understand like

Alienwe're humans we are social beings so therefore we feel like we need other people but at the end of the day I don't think I need a man like I

Alienhave Bine personality disorder right so like to me it's just like when I'm hearing that like I'm literally suffering in my brain like 24/7 you know

Libby Spainwhat I mean I'm surviving every day and then I'm hearing like oh a man is just going to make it better saying if you want a partner a companion uh if you want to be in a marriage that's what I'm

Unknown backgroundsaying you got to have it match up to be the right energy for what you need I think when I like say baggage like yeah it can be um can seem super negative

Unknown backgroundlike a really negative term but yeah I agree I I think when I think of baggage I think of like getting into a relationship with like a man who has mental health issues because getting into a relationship with someone who

Unknown backgrounddoes have mental health issues can be like super super draining on yourself also like if if that's like one thing I like that's one thing I try to avoid like at at most cuz like they're dealing

Elissa Cheesemanwith a lot of stuff in their own head so it's like how are you going to be able to deal with having a relationship yeah I feel like that's really fair because everyone has like their own limits and boundaries and at the end of the day

Elissa Cheesemanlike relationships matter of course but you also need to priori prioritize yourself too and it's like if that's going to be causing so much stress on you that you feel like you're giving all your energy like you don't want to have

Unknown backgroundto do that yeah well continue going around with type I guess Morgan do you want to tell the audience your type I bet all of them are begging to please

Morgan (off-panel)tell us I don't think I have a type but I would say I'm more attracted to certain people so I mean a tall guy chill

Libby Spainchill tall brunette light eyes or yeah I think yeah and that's just a preference but that doesn't mean that

Morgan (off-panel)you have to stick to just that I don't think I really go with my type like I think I'm like yeah we were attracted to most like that type but then that's not the people I end up with we were just

Unknown backgroundtalking about that earlier but we were saying how like some women have like a specific type but they don't always like have get the boyfriend that's exactly what they want you like we were both

Libby Spainsaying how earlier we dated guys that were the opposite of our type so we feel like it doesn't really matter and it's funny because you know we spent so much time of the conversation talking about

Libby Spainhow this one specific criteria is a lot a GU type and that's just the age the age thing right but I'm sure that men have way more qualities than just age oh

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