Pregnancy WORSE Than War?! 300+ Body Count?! $1,000,000 To Date Her?! Andrew W! | Dating Talk #243

Date: 2025-05-19

Duration: 8h 55m

Guests

Brian Atlas

SShannon Davey >

NNatalie Stavola >

AAndrew Wilson >

GGabby (Michigan)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Gabby (Michigan)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Felicity(guest)

SPEAKER_04Natalie Stavola(guest)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_10Shannon Davey(guest)

SPEAKER_11Guidance(guest)

SPEAKER_13Joey(guest)

SPEAKER_14Wu (Cassie)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced including Wu (8 languages, PhD linguistics)

Key MomentGuidance: engaged after 6-week courtship. 3 prior marriages. Shunned from JW.

Key MomentNatalie: 8-year sobriety anniversary today (cocaine/alcohol). 300+ body count.

Key MomentAndrew's infinite regress argument on trans identity: if partner has penis and you perform oral, by your definition that's gay

OtherAndrew Wilson departs to sleep before next day debate

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Shannon, Guidance, Natalie, Joey, Gabby, Wu, Felicity, Andrew Wilson.

Octopus Water Incident

Water smells fishy. Brian blames Costco octopus contaminating fridge.

Body Count Discussion

Andrew's grimy dude multiplier. 10 ONS vs 10 failed LTRs trolley problem.

Bow Video and Submission

Brian shows ex bowing. Panel asked if they would bow. Wu: 3x/week max.

Minimum Income Round

Shannon $100-150K. Guidance $300K. Natalie $300K+. Joey $75K. Wu $36K/yr.

Transgender Identity Debate

Guidance: wrong to refuse trans people solely for being trans. Andrew's infinite regress on defining 'woman.'

Body Count Reveals

Felicity 2. Guidance 27. Shannon declined. Natalie 300+. Gabby 2.

Transcript

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Wu (Cassie)think it's easier for women to get laid for sure especially with the apps. Agree? Yeah, agree. Agree. Disagree. Agree. I'm if you disagree. Um, I agree

Wu (Cassie)that I understand why it's considered a achievement for men to like have more body count, but it doesn't explain why like it's despised that women have more

Brian Atlasbody count. Like it's like a different thing. Uh, yeah. Well, we kind of we kind of talked about it, but uh I think Andrew got into it with Did you bring up paternity certainty or they find it's a

Andrew Wilsonit's a matter of revulsion. So men find it more revoling than women, right? She was asking more literally find it more revolting. So like I mean at at its root you're asking a fine question. So you're saying okay I get it that there's a

Andrew Wilsonhigher achievement right a higher achievement level. That's why men would honor that over a woman who has a no achievement level because she can just open her legs and 100 men will run in. Right? But what about the revulsion

Andrew Wilsonlevel? If one sex is less revolted by an activity than another sex, right? How do you reconcile that? Like what do you do about that? Perfect. Revolting meaning disgusting? Yeah. They

Andrew Wilsonjust find it more disgusting than the other sex does. You mean men find that more revoling? They find it more disgusting when women have a higher body count than women find it disgusting when men do. Why is this so? I I hear I think it's I think it's rooted. It's more of

Brian Atlaslike a cultural thing. I don't think it's I actually have something really good on this. Um would you agree that

Brian Atlaswomen will find physical weakness in men? uh as less attractive than if men than men finding uh physical weakness in

Brian Atlaswomen. Does that make sense? No. So, okay, when it comes asked it wrong. Yeah. Well, okay. The trait of physical weakness. Yeah. Men are going to be very

Brian Atlasforgiving of physical weakness in women. However, maybe prefer it. Sometimes, sure, maybe. Whereas I think physical like demonstrable physical like

Brian Atlasimagine a 5B weight and the guy's like struggling to lift a 5B weight or something like that. I know that's an extreme example but I uh women are going to find physical weakness I think much

Andrew Wilsonmore unattractive than men. Does that make it depends on the person cuz I know women who love listen there's no example you could ever give about anything on planet earth where we couldn't say it depends on the

Andrew Wilsonperson. We could talk about We could talk about murder. We could talk about theft. We could talk about the most. We could talk about incest. It depends on the person. Doesn't actually help us with this. Right. If we're looking at it

Andrew Wilsonfrom a social scale, we would have to look at it at the social scale of how these sexes generally seem to respond to this. Is it the case that generally speaking, at least in all of your experiences, you would definitely prefer

Guidanceto have a man who is at least stronger than you? I mean, that that depends. We're in 2025, so you're not building me a house. You're not building me a hut. You're not fighting off saber-tooth tigers. But you

Andrew Wilsonare. But all of but all of those same reasons like the building the hut and the fighting off the saber-tooth tiger and this and that would be rudimentary why it was that women were attracted to that to begin with. It's built biologically. Well, kind of back then

Natalie Stavolayou still believe you still tribes where there was women that were the warriors too. So I know you can do that this that this that. Not really. But but even then so even with tribes out of the warriors that that were women but that's

Andrew Wilsonyeah and weakness and all of these things. There really wasn't that many tribes where there was women I didn't say there was that many. I just said that there was don't think so. It's

SPEAKER_01dubious. It's very the ants belong to uh jungle jungle jungle back again $1,000. No

Brian Atlaspineapple. Andrew needs some pizza. So is this a pizza pop? Wait, jungle. Is this a pizza pop instead of a champagne pop? It's a pizza pop. It's a pizza pop. Pizza pop. The girls want to eat, too.

Brian AtlasWhy are the guys I'll order I'll order pizza for the table. We'll do We'll do a little pizza. Am I the only one that likes pineapple and pizza? I mean, and she don't even say that around. Oh, yeah. No pineapple. He will just lose

Andrew Wilsonhis mind. The Asian Pacific Island. My wife My wife loves it, too. But that's how I know that, you know, Satan is involved somewhere. But um so there's there's a little bit

SPEAKER_01of Satan in there somewhere somewhere. Does that make sense at all or no? Like so you're talking about bi biology like if she's a virgin, you're sure that's your kid? You're talking about Well,

Wu (Cassie)yeah. In that case, but he gave the different example if it is the case that women are generally attracted to men who are strong. Yeah. So this is like biology or like evolution, right? Like if we we're talking about evolution.

Andrew WilsonWell, in this case, we're just talking about even if you didn't know anything about evolution, you knew nothing about it. Let's just pretend you knew nothing. It didn't even exist. You would still at least observe that men or women were

Andrew Wilsonattracted to men who were strong. Yeah. Yeah. So, you can at least observe that. You don't even need an evolutionary explanation. You can at least observe it. And that men generally aren't

Wu (Cassie)attracted to women who are stronger than them. Right. So, you mean it's natural? Well, just observable. you would at least observe that that is the case, right? Mhm. So, but like you give this

Wu (Cassie)example. Yeah, I need you to answer the question. I see that you're kind of like not answering the question. Is that observable or not? Observable that uh women prefer strong woman men. Yeah.

Andrew WilsonYeah. Okay. So, you can observe that that is the case. Mhm. Okay. Got it. And then you can observe the counter that uh men don't seem to prefer particularly strong women. It's not a preference they

Andrew Wilsonhave. So when they're looking for women, they're not like, "Oh, the fact that she can really lift up heavy [ __ ] is a big deal for them, right? You can observe that, right?" Yeah. Okay, great. So what

Andrew WilsonBrian's point was is like if that's the case, we're talking about the distinction observation in the interexual dynamic and in the interpersonal dynamic. What were you

SPEAKER_06moving it into the from the attraction portion? Uh, it already it's already slips my mind. Are you serious? Yeah. I just went through that whole [ __ ] thing.

Andrew WilsonHe's on pizza. Well, no, we were when it came to the disgust thing, right? Oh, yeah. The disgust thing. It would be the same thing. It would just be like if it is the idea that if re if like really

Andrew Wilsonmasculine women, meaning they were stronger than the men, disgusted men or really weak men disgusted women. Um, is is that like a double standard? I I

Brian Atlasmaybe have something. Um, are there anything when it comes to uh for a guy you're thinking about dating, are there any behaviors or traits that you might find disgusting?

Brian AtlasBeing not clean. Okay. Well, I think that could go both ways, but that's fair. Certainly. Uh, but are there anything maybe specifically related to

Brian Atlasuh this guy jungle? Okay, hold on. This guy pizza, bro. And he's getting me a burrito.

SPEAKER_08Pop champagne. This guy's a giga chat, dude. Holy [ __ ] You can get out. Thank you, man. [ __ ] welcome, ladies. Jungle. If the man of your dreams, fits

Brian Atlasall your desires, asks you to bow. He's a bow fan. He's a bow fan and a bow enjoyer. Really? Uh, wait. This is a great question. If the man of your

Brian Atlasdreams fits all your desires, asks you to bow for him, would you? We have to play the bow video. I'm going to get on the here. Let me write down pizza. Hold

Brian Atlason. Wait. Jungle, you're a legend, sir. Pizza. I got to also I got He's If he [ __ ] pineapple pizza, you're going right off the balcony. What do you want? You want pine uh You want pepperoni?

Brian AtlasPepper Pepper pepperoni. Right off the balcony, right? You want pepperoni? Pepperoni. Pepperoni. Uh, and I'm he's he did a burrito pop, too. So, we'll pull up the bow video in just a sec, then we'll ask

Brian Atlasthem the question. Uh, I really quick just wanted to finish up on this. Uh, anything like gender specific when it comes to disgust? I'm only thinking about pizza and burrito. Uh, like how about this maybe? Like would you date uh

Brian Atlasare you typically attracted to men who are like shorter than you? No. No. Okay. So, that would be a bit of an example. It's kind of related to the ick. You guys all get the ick when it comes to guys stuff. Uh, you explained the

SPEAKER_01paternity uncertainty, right? Yeah. Um, okay. Last thing. Well, I mean, it just comes down to ick. It comes down to the It just comes down to preference and ick. Yeah. I don't know why that Christopher thing for the 20 gifted

Brian Atlasmembers. Comes down to the get the I have a quick test. You guys get the ick. Yeah. Yeah. Guys get the ick. I have a really quick test before we get into the bow video on the like the whole like easier to get sex thing cuz you had some disputes about it. Uh, it sounded like

Brian Atlasyou maybe had some disputes. I don't know. So, um, here we can test this out really easy. Uh, let's do this. How do we You You gave the example of the the

SPEAKER_01coat. Yeah. Uh, flasher guy. Yeah. I call it I call it the um the flasher hypothetical. The flasher hypothetical. Flasher hypothetical. Here, we're going to do it like How do I want to do this?

Brian AtlasAre you pulling up? Oh, no. I'll just I'll do we'll do a real easy test. Uh, we'll go What the [ __ ] Here. Uh,

Brian AtlasGabrielle, after the show tonight, would you like to have sex with me? No. Uh, I'm sorry I forgot your name. It's okay. Nameless woman, I forgot your This is

Brian Atlasthe best way to proposition a woman for sex, by the way. Uh, not knowing her name. Uh, that's a no. Thank you. Excuse me, lady. Would you like to have sex after the show tonight? I'm good. Thank you. Okay. Uh, would you you've been celibate for like 3 years or something.

Brian AtlasWould you like to have sex after the show tonight? No. Oh, see you've just been offered sex on a silver platter. You turn it down. Hold on. More to it. We're also on a

Joeypublic forum. What if one of wants to but doesn't want everybody to have Wait a second. So you guys are liable advocate cuz I've been in situations. So you guys are So you guys are lying and you do want to have sex

Andrew Wilsonwith Brian. Maybe I don't want a thousand. I knew it. I knew it. I still have but even if that's even wouldn't that make his point that like if any of

Andrew Wilsonyou said yes he looks like a [ __ ] king right but if after if after the fact you're like actually Brian you know what I actually do kind of want to like you know do this thing with you right

Andrew Wilsonafter the fact isn't it because you feel like you're devalued if right now you said yes well no what if you're just a private person yeah a private person why like if you were going to get some a steam boost

Guidancefrom that or like some crowns for that, wouldn't she be like, "Yeah, sure." Yeah. Not if we knew that the as a heterosexual, which I'm not. Like for these ladies sitting here, if they said

Guidanceyes to that question to one of you guys, you should maybe they and maybe they want to, you know, but then when they leave here, the other guys who may think like y'all will then devalue them

Andrew Wilsonbecause they're But that's the whole point. Yeah. I think like you literally hit the nail on the head, right? So the whole point would be he gets the crowns if they say yes, they get the shame if they say yes. So like what if after the

Andrew Wilsonshow we could make some like little arrangement or something like this, right? In this case, you don't get the shame portion, right? Isn't that the point? And whoever does have sex with me after the show, that's your last body. Like we're getting married. So you don't

Joeyhave that kind of someone who doesn't really believe in marriage. Am I wrong? I'm just Well, first of all, taking one for the question. Someone someone husband that

Andrew Wilsonman up to see this now. You're all [ __ ] All of you. All of you [ __ ] degenerates. All of you [ __ ] are degenerates. Every one of you [ __ ] DJ. Just to be clear, uh I wasn't

SPEAKER_06genuinely propositioning you guys here. This was for the Wait, now they're upset. Now they're What the [ __ ] They're like, "What the now?" They kind of What the

SPEAKER_01[ __ ] Now they kind of want How dare you say no. How dare you say no. Turning them down. They're like, "Shit, maybe I shouldn't say I should say yes."

Andrew WilsonYeah. Supply and demand. He's like, "Shit." Damn, it's crazy. Okay, I need to get on this pizza. And she started it. She was like, "Well, but Brian, what

Brian Atlasif after the show it's the case?" No. Just saying. Just saying. Just saying. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, just don't feel uncomfortable over the rest of the show being like, "Did that

Brian Atlasguy just try to [ __ ] me?" No, it's just for the It was for the sake of the, you know, the the what would that be? A rhetorical solicitation of sex. [ __ ]

Brian Atlasdid Jen. No, it was a rhetorical solicitation of sex. This is great. All right, we have rhetorically sex for the purpose of like

Andrew Wilsona rhetorical question. I was trying to demonstrate an argument. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. To make a point. Yeah. Cuz like next time you should make it more extreme. You should be like, "Hey, will you give me a [ __ ] after the show?"

Andrew WilsonYou should just like take it one step like to the next. You know what I mean? Just to make it more than sex. Oh, just like she won't have sex. Yeah, maybe a [ __ ] less than he doesn't count. But that's what I mean. It's like he could

Andrew Wilsonjust keep going through them, right? If you like, do you want to make you should go back? Well, how about Yeah. How about a makeup session then? No. We'll just take a [ __ ] You don't want to kiss me, but

Brian Atlasrhetorical win here would be if they offered Now they were like, "Well, Brian, would you like some [ __ ] after the show?" Hang on. But Brian, let me ask you this. Yeah. Would you believe him?

Andrew WilsonUm, probably not. Well, I mean, if it Well, so I can't really Is it really a rhetorical win then? Would you take it? Wait, now I'm getting confused. Yeah. Now I'm just confused. You're not

Brian Atlasconfused. Women are awesome. I'm so confused. All right. Pizza. Got to do a couple chat. Pizza. Christopher Murky. Murky Murphy. Thank you for the gift of 20 and you sent it in twice. Thank you for the 40, man.

Brian AtlasYou're I feel like he keeps You're a legend. What about him a few times? Yeah. Oh, what about 60? What about the grift? Christopher. Uh Py George. Yeah. Send in an ice cream puff. Only Brian

Brian Atlasand Andrew can eat. Oh my god, this is great. Here's the thing. Oh no, is anybody who does a pop, I'm going to make this new rule. If you can actually specify in your pop in your messages,

Brian Atlaswhether it's champagne, pizza, I guess it's too late now for some of you did it previously. If you want to single out somebody to not get champagne, like they're if you're doing a champagne pop and you're like, "Ah, chair 2 is

Brian Atlasannoying me. They don't get champagne." You can you can uh specify. So, Py George, if you want to preclude someone from having ice cream, you can do so. But this is the second super chat you

SPEAKER_01sent about an ice cream pop. So, you better uh you better what? You better pop that [ __ ] ice cream. George, what's the word though for uh saddle up? Is saddle up. [ __ ] You don't say saddle

Brian Atlasup. Saddle up. You don't say saddle up. He could He could do it. You could bring it back. Coco, you can't bring it back. Thank you. We have uh Chef Dylan chair

Guidance2, that's for you. What are the five mother sauces? Oh my goodness. I've had at least five things of champagne right now, so I'm not quite sure. No, you

Guidancehaven't had that much. No way. For me, mother sauces. Um, no idea right now. What is mother sauce? Is that like a Yeah. Oh, well, there's like five sauces for cooking that are like the staples

SPEAKER_01that All right. Uh there's some chats from Lucas. Is worshshire sauce one of those sauces? It is not. Not a fan. Yeah. Worshshire. What's this

Brian Atlashere sauce? What's this here sauce? Thank you, Christopher. Appreciate it. All right. We have a bunch of chats from Lucas here that I'm going to get through. We have Lucas. Can we please

Brian AtlasOh, remind me the bow video for our good friend Jungle. Uh, can we please for once and for all stick a fork in this bank blank

Brian Atlasslate social constructionist theory? Men have been since time inmemorial and will continue to be viscerally and sub subconsciously revolted by promiscuity

Andrew Wilsonin women. This has been settled science for decades. And it was also settled even before the scientific method was even introduced as a method. Right? This

Andrew Wilsonwas something which was a matter of law prescribed by almost all societies globally be because he's exactly right. It is a social constructionist theory. This idea that this doesn't exist blank slate theory that we have no preferences

Natalie Stavolathat are ingrained in us for the purposes of re of being revolted. He's totally right. Yeah. No, a lot of us have said it is primal. Like that's the thing. It's just I think some of us were asking why. We were trying to get deeper on why. Like when she was ever asked

Joeysomeone why is it revoling? Why is it we keep going back? Because it is. Oh, she's a ho. That's the default. I feel like I gave you actually No, no, you I'm understanding. I'm just saying that that's why. And by the way, Lucas Lucas

Andrew Wilsonis totally right. You already know. We already agreed. Lucas is mostly, by the way, totally right. Except for me. I'm totally right more than you, Lucas. But other than me, Lucas, you're the most right. Uh, Lucas has some continuations.

Brian AtlasJungle, I'll get to it once I get through all of Lucas's continuations. Jungle's Who is Who is this guy? Jungle. Jungle. Where's Jungle? What does the F stand for, Brian? What? Fever. He's

Brian Atlastrying. You know, The Crucible likes to support the channels that support The Crucible. Brian, I'm grateful. I'm just When I say, "Who is this guy?" I'm like, "This guy's a [ __ ] legend." He is a [ __ ] legend.

Brian AtlasHe's a [ __ ] Here, let me play this thing for him. He's a He's a brave and a decent man. Oh my god. He's a brave and a What does the F stand for? Fever.

Brian AtlasJungle fever. Jungle fever. It has to be jungle. What if it's jungle? [ __ ] you. What if it's jungle fallopian tube? Wow. Oh, there it is. Yep. I mean, just I

Brian Atlasthink I could be I think you're right. It's possible. Lucas too. This isn't the hill hill to die on. You're not changing fully entrenched preference. Likewise,

Brian Atlasdon't hearken to evolution as to why this primordial aversion to pro promiscuity should no longer apply since we are now enlightened beyond our

Brian Atlasprimitive impulses. Continued three. Oh, it's an incontrovertible fact that almost all animals including humans have

Brian Atlasnot changed i.e. evolved in the last 200s thousand years behind a dimminimus. Oh my god, this guy is on fire. Lucas, you're on fire with the words. The

Brian Atlasthesaurus has been brought out. Minimal local adaptation. He's He's googling. Oh my god. Deminimus. That's a legal term, by the way. Well done, Lucas. He's an attorney.

Brian AtlasA very powerful attorney. Chad, if you need if you need an attorney, if you need an attorney in New York City, he's your guy. Okay. Minimal local adaptation.

Brian AtlasWhy are we doing the voice? I kind of like it. Yeah. In evolution literally takes millions of years. Chair three. As a male dating coach, I recommend against trying to convince

Brian Atlasmen, at least conservative men, they should look past body count. Otherwise, you're looking at an incredibly short feray. As a men's dating coach, of

Brian Atlascourse, if you're advising simp liberal soy boys, then disregard and godspeed to you. Well, he makes two really good points. Let me respond to both of them real quick. The the first great point he

Andrew Wilsonmakes is right at the end of it. Actually, progressives utilize feminism and utilize female promiscuity as a mating strategy. They actually do. They are the ones you'll see at the forefront

Andrew Wilsonpromoting OAF and promoting all of the female promiscuity they possibly can. Which men are you saying? Progressive liberal men. progressive liberal as a as a, you know, instead of like conservative traditional men, progressive men tend to do this because

Andrew Wilsonit's a much better mating strategy for them because they're [ __ ] Literally, it's because they're [ __ ] So, God, there's some men that actually really love a woman with a high sexy challenge any day of the week. Progressive. I don't I mean, sure, with that one. Yeah.

Andrew WilsonBut I've definitely noticed that. Yeah. They're they're they're [ __ ] I just think if it's your preference, it's your preference. But the other point that he says is like he's right. So the modern incarnation of humanity is only what uh

Andrew Wilson200 to 400,000 years old from an evolutionary standpoint. That's like meaningless. That's like a drop in the bucket. Evolution takes millions of years for even gradual changes. So we even if it were the case that this is

Andrew Wilsonthe incarnation of humanity that's 400,000 years old. We have not gotten past this idea of like we're revolted by this for reason. But I it's interesting because a lot of us have already agreed that we already all came to it that were

Natalie Stavolalike, "Oh yeah, we know men have this revoling thing against women with high body counts." Yeah, got it. Move on. The next topic was why? And then we're like, "Why? Why are we there was a lot of different questions." We pushed it because we're trying to get a

Natalie Stavolafull-fledged. Yeah. We wanted to know understanding at least that's where now the only thing that I do is I've said that there's there are people that like I mean women too. Women can have a revoling thing against that too. You can absolutely have women that are like, I

Andrew Wilsonam revolted against a high body count, men or women. We're just we're just looking at the the the idea of like I would never dispute that. I've known women who are like absolutely not. Like playboys, things like that, discuss them

Andrew Wilsonvisibly. But generally speaking, if you're talking to a woman and you ask her the question I asked her, would you accept a man who has like a 100 body count if he fits all the other criteria? She said,

Andrew Wilson"Yeah." But you ask a man, but you ask the man the same question. Right? Would you accept a woman who meets all the criteria, but she has like a 100 body count? They say no. Is it really important to ask? That's another question I have. What if I just don't

Shannon Daveywant to know? I don't think it used to be as important, but I think it sure is important now because because of trends. You think that the answer is really going to change that much depending on

Andrew Wilsonif the man's more conservative or more liberal? Yes. Okay. So, I think that that kind of shows that different men have different 100%. I've had men who are sitting right across from me who

Andrew Wilsonliterally say, "I prefer that my woman is certified pre-fucked." Okay. They've said it out loud. No, I've heard that. Okay. Yeah. They They've said it out loud. And the reason is is because they're like, "You you think I'm an

Andrew Wilsonally, right? You like me now, right? I'm an ally for women's rights, right?" And it's all a strategy to try. Those men are getting more women these days sometimes than some of the traditional guys. Shoot. If that's their tactic and

Andrew Wilsonthat's what they want to do, more power to them. Let them live their best lives. They're going under the cover sometimes. Like you're not outright saying I'm a Trump supporter. The men the men who showed up to like the women's march and wore [ __ ] hats on their head. Let me

Andrew Wilsontell you something. Those are not guys who are getting a lot of [ __ ] I'm just going to say they're not the guys I think it depends on their looks. Yeah. I mean, sure. But remember, women don't care. The guy who has good looks is the kind of guy he's going to show up and

Guidancewear a [ __ ] on his head. If the girl he's really into wants him, too. Maybe. No, no, no, no way. I think like we're we've acknowledged that these preferences and stuff exist. I think for

SPEAKER_08me and just watching the younger side, oh, this dude is definitely donut. Jungle donated $1,000 pop champagne ice cream popping a little

SPEAKER_08pizza or ice cream for chair one. That's okay. I'm definitely not a hypocrite even though I'm having pizza and ice cream right now. [ __ ] hypocrite. Okay, so we're going to do pizza ice

Natalie Stavolacream and I He I have to get a burrito for me because he insisted on the burrito. Is there any way of doing gluten-free? That's so bad. I keep on saying that. I know. I was waiting so long to say it. I am. It's bad. I'll

Andrew Wilsontake the cheese. It's not bad. No, you just got to preference. Gluten. Gluten. Gluten is kind of poison. So, I don't blame you. I it's not on purpose. Meat in general is such a bad gut irritant

Brian Atlasand yeah. Have you tried it overseas or like in a different country? Anyways, we have a message here from Rachel Wilson. Liberal bet liberal beta men are the only ones who see high body count in women is good because it signifies a willingness on her part to do anything

Brian Atlaswith anyone, which is the only way they're getting. That's Andrew's there. Thank you, Rachel. Appreciate it. Oh, bow video. Okay, bow video. Then I'm going to get all the food situated. Uh, Mary, pull up the bow. Or should we

Brian Atlaswait? We got to wait until she's back from the bathroom. Okay. Uh, here. While we're doing that, I'll read some of the pre-show notes. We got some stuff to get through. What the [ __ ] was your Prisc what's that Priscilla voice, bro? Why

SPEAKER_01you Priscilla? Why you Why you Why you Priscilla modding? I don't know. Drunk. I don't know. Um, I think I'm It's the champagne.

Brian AtlasIt's the champagne. Priscilla. I will I will do the next 10 minutes of the show. in a in a Priscilla voice, please. Oh,

Brian Atlasthat would be great. We do a uh a crystalall pop. One Ethereum, one Ethereum. I'll do the I'll do the Pilop. You can do that for 10 minutes. I can do

Andrew Wilsonit for You can do it. Oh, you know how he'll do it? But here's the thing. I'll hold him I'll hold him to the fire, right? You just got to shotgun questions at him so that he can't like divert it to run the timeout. That's how we do it.

Brian AtlasThat's how we do it. Okay, that's fair. You guys can ask me anything. This is fun. Uh yeah, you'll ask me anything. All right, once she's back, we'll do the bow video, but we do have some other notes we're going to get into. Uh

Brian AtlasGabrielle, just curious. You got two lip piercings, right? Every What? Everybody's getting What the

Brian AtlasGet get uh do you do anybody uh want a what is it called? Oh my god. Sorry. Champagne. God damn, bro. God damn. I kind of like

Brian Atlasthis. Okay, hold on. Let me gather my thoughts here through the alcohol. Hold on. An appetizer of uh We have uh

Brian Atlaspopsicles. Anybody? What kind are they? Uh fruit popsicles. Yeah, sure. Why not? All right, hook it up. I'll take one.

Brian AtlasDon't be Don't like Do you want one? They told me I'm not allowed. If there's Wait, we got to do one at a Let's do one at a time so there's not like a amalgamation of like popsicle sucking

Brian Atlassounds into the mic. So do one at a time. Did you want a popsicle? Okay, get get her a popsicle then when she finishes. It's got to be one by one. I just can't have all of you doing the popsicle or like two at a time. What's

Brian Atlasthat? It's the misophonia. The what? It's Oh, it's a thing. People they get bothered by noises and Well, it's I don't mind. It's just the it picks it up in the microphone and they're going to murder me if they're

Brian Atlaslike this is disgusting or if people are like this is ASMR. Yeah. Wait, so you have the two lip piercings. Do you have any other piercings? I have a eyebrow

Brian Atlaspiercing and I have chest piercings. Chest. Okay, got it. Nipple piercings. Okay. Uh and when did you get the lip

Gabby (Michigan)piercings? I got them on my 16th birthday. So it's about to be 3 years, I think. All right. What do your Did you go What did your parents think of the My

Gabby (Michigan)parents? Were they on board or? Yeah, my mom's the one who took me to get them. Your mom? Yeah, she took you to Yeah. Does she have piercings? She used to have like a nose piercing. My dad had a

Gabby (Michigan)nose piercing. Um they're not really They don't care that much. It's their their whole thing is like it's you. What you do, it's whatever. How it affects you is how it going to affect you. Uh

Brian Atlaslet's see. And then you if there's anything else in your notes here, disagreements, but we'll get to those later. Uh, let's see.

Brian AtlasVictoria, who's Victoria? Was that the 30-minute late girl? Victoria. Oh, she uh Yeah, that's a

Brian Atlasno-go. That was another no-show. Um Oh, Joey, that's me. Oh, but you're up at the table. Okay. Uh Natalie going to you. You're a dating coach, a

Brian Atlashypnotherapist, an author, and a produc. You didn't say you were a hypnotherapist in your intro. I didn't. I have a lot of things. I'm sorry. We I I did say it eventually. All right. Can you hypnotize us all right now? No. Come on. Do it.

Natalie StavolaAre we We should wait until Andrew's back. You're right. Well, no. He know he knows. It's not It's not like that. It's like a uh what I do is I teach people how to like do a meditation where it's more somatic where you can go back into a memory and reframe that memory so

Natalie Stavolayou're not as triggered by that memory anymore. That's really it. That's not to make it as like anticlimactic, but Mhm. I don't do the I don't do as much

Brian Atlasas the woowoo stuff. All right, we have a chat here. Name taken. Men are as disgusted by women with a high bod count as women are disgusted by men with a huge Pokemon card collection. That's a lie. All right. [Laughter]

Gabby (Michigan)Some girls like that. Pokemon. I forgot I had a Pokemon card collection. I'm like, "Oh my gosh." Does the popsicle count as ice cream? Is that part Is that Am I being a goblin

Brian Atlashere? I think that might be I got to wait until everybody's back at the table before I get into the Wait here. hang at the table unless you're cuz I think Andrew's in the bathroom right now. So here, let's do the bow video while we

Brian Atlashave everybody at the table. This is going back to Jungle's question. So keep this in mind while you're watching this following video. Uh the question is, if

Brian Atlasa if the man of your dreams fits all your desires asks you to bow for him, would you go ahead and play the

Brian Atlasvideo? No audio video is fine. It's fine. Go ahead. This is my ex-girlfriend, by the way. Boom. Huge bow. Did you see that [ __ ]

Brian AtlasShe got rewarded. Huge bow. Huge bow. Giant bow. And then, you know, this is the rest. She's you know, doing the whole hamper thing. This was after a long podcast shoot. I uh you know, she

Brian Atlashad my dinner ready. She's got my beer ready. Oh, yeah. My noodles ready. I don't know what the [ __ ] was in the left corner. Ready. Tomatoes. Whole tomatoes, Ryan. Whole tomatoes. Ready? I actually

SPEAKER_01dumped her because of that. And then get ready. Play it. Play it again. We're just going to watch the bow part. By the way, while you're doing ordering, you got to order in some of those huge bow. Do you see the depth? Do

Brian Atlasyou see the depth bow? That's uh I had to teach her that. Like she tried to do like give me a half bow. I had to say no. To your teacher. Full bow. Huh? Did

Joeyyou say teacher? Yes, that was my also my uh I was groomed. I don't know. You had to teach her. My

Brian Atlasbad. I It took audio processing. So, the question was, if the man of your dreams fits all your desires, ask you to bow for him. Don't ignore the other [ __ ]

Shannon Daveyafter the bow. Just the bow. Would you? I feel like the man of my dreams wouldn't want me to bow, but if for some reason he was on something and wanted it, sure.

GuidanceIs it on? Sure. Go. No, go ahead. Go ahead. Uh, guidance doesn't bow to anyone, first of all. Uh, so no, but if I Okay, let me hold on. Let me let me

Brian Atlaslet me paint. Okay, so you said you like thick white women. That's right. So she's thicky icky racist.

Brian AtlasShe's the thickest white girl you've ever Why are your eyes You're like your eyes are closed and you're like picturing that [ __ ] That's right. That's right. She's thunder thighs.

Brian AtlasThunder thighs. That's right. Thicky icky. Mhm. [ __ ] degeneracy. What the [ __ ] I I'm trying to help her out. All right. All right. I like the

Brian Atlaspicture you painting. All right. Yeah. And she's got she's got Do you like girls with like color in their hair? Oh, as long as they have beautiful hair. I don't care what color it is. Beautiful hair. Okay. You like preferably blondes. Like blondes. I actually don't like

Andrew Wilsonblondes. That's crazy. But I like brunettes or black hair. Like blond. But if if it was a blonde, would it be to disqualify her? I think it would. I mean, that's just for me. I'm not sure why. Like, you're a beautiful woman, but you're blonde. No way. Yeah. You got to

Brian Atlashave a lot more to back that blonde hair up. Uh, so no to the bow. Okay. Would you bow for your perfect guy? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I'll even kneel. You'll

Gabby (Michigan)kneel. Oh, she's always She went there. Wait, hold on. I got to play. Guy of my dreams. Oh, yeah. Anything you want. That's awesome.

Andrew WilsonAbsolutely. Oh, yes. I feel like over I feel like over the course of a couple of years, you have like really driven this point home to the point where the answers are

Brian Atlascompletely 180 from what they used to be. I have single-handedly shifts. I saw the bow in Brian. I've brought it in. Well, you know, we It depends on the panel. This panel seems

Wu (Cassie)What? Uh would you bow for your perfect man? Is it a one time thing or do I have to do it every day? Every day. Every day. No. Every day. How about three times a week? That's a good deal.

Wu (Cassie)Perfect. Three times a week. Perfect guy. And he's not German because I don't You had some stupid. So no, he can be less perfect and I don't

Brian Atlashave to. The Asian chick won't bow. The Asian chick won't pass. She goes less perfect. The perfect guy. You wouldn't the perfect guy. So like Yeah. I think this deal makes him less perfect

Brian Atlasalready. But but just one clarify. And Felicity, you do you? Of course. Of course. Doing the bow. Yeah. She's been having some relationship problems cuz she doesn't do the bow. No, she doesn't

Brian Atlasdo the bow. Now she just there is no relationship problems. I'm just saying she should do the bow. So okay. Um for you though. Wait, you said no bow. No bow. My girl bows to me, sir. That

SPEAKER_01doesn't Okay. Well, wait. So, are you more I don't know how like the lesbian relationships work. But I really like this kneel thing that I did. Was that good? I think the kneel is better than

Andrew Wilsonthe bow. Huh? I would. Sure. Yes. The kneel is better than the bow. The kneel is better than the bow. Is this like kneeling on your knee? Like proposing type? No. No. I I think I think I need

SPEAKER_01straight. I I really feel like I need both knees. No, not a kneeling. Yeah, I feel like I need both knees. Not a kneeling b. But can you just do it on

SPEAKER_12your chair? No, the the kning is the one knee that No, it's a it's a kneel on the chair. What? On the chair. I was saying

Brian Atlasif she would kneel on the chair. What the [ __ ] How do you kneel on a chair? You can do it. She she she doesn't Her legs wouldn't be pointing towards the back of the chair. She'd have to be uh

Brian Atlasshe'd have to change her orientation to do it to kneel on the chair to straight. What the [ __ ] are you talking? What are you What the [ __ ] are you? Where's the Priscilla voice like this? Oh, she said

Brian Atlason one knee. Oh, one knee or both knees? Oh, wait. Both knees on a good knee. But that's still lower than Neil. When you say kneel, are you saying kneel like you're on both your knees? No, cuz I

Brian Atlascan't get up right now. Wait, like a proposal, Neil? Like I'm going down like a like a football huddle. Like your [ __ ] football coach will proposing proposing. All right,

Brian Atlasteam. Take a knee. I get it though. I think both. It's got to be both. No, it's got to be both. That's what I'm saying. It has to It has to be Do both. No, the Neil. Really? I would do two. Yeah, I

Brian Atlaswould do the Neil for sure. Man of your dreams. kneel. It's got to be both. Man of my I'll say this for the perfect woman. That's the question. Will y'all kneel to

Andrew Wilsonthe girl of your dreams? Reciprocal. That's what we want. That's right. For the perfect woman, bro. That's like That's like doing the like Black Lives Matter thing where you kneel. It's the same [ __ ] You don't kneel for the

Joeyperfect woman, dude. What? No, he said bow. That's a whole It's a compromise, right? Thank you. That's the most important thing in relationship is compromise. That's the only thing I

SPEAKER_06would compromise on. But it's a compromise. That's start doing it every day or three days a week. Everything else has relationship right now. Are you in a relationship right now, Brian? I'm asexual.

Brian AtlasThat doesn't mean you're not in a relationship and a monk. I don't do that. You would kneel. But you're not bald. You would bow. No, I wouldn't kneel. I would bow.

Brian AtlasYou know what? [ __ ] that. The kneel's kind of weird though. But like the vow [ __ ] Yeah, whatever. It's behind closed doors. No one. Okay, but here's uh Oh, and listen to this part. So, here's the

SPEAKER_01entailment of vow for the Hold on. Here's the Here's the entailment of Try, Andrew. Your wife might like it. Here's the entailment. Yeah. Yeah. Never do. You could. There's no No way. They would

Brian Atlasnever happen. Here's the entailment of the Wait, pasty, you are a little goblin, dude. You said you were gonna do an ice cream pop. You [ __ ] can this. This is offiscation. This is [ __ ]

Brian Atlasoffiscation. It's offiscation. I'll deate you on the bow. I will debate you on the debate on Hold on. Just hold on. I just need to call Pasty out because you said you would do an ice cream pop and where is it at? Offiscation.

Brian AtlasOffication. Jungle ain't going to protect you. Jungle's not coming to help you out, buddy. Okay. Pelagic BBOP and rock steady. Okay. Not sure what uh Thank you, Pelagic.

Andrew WilsonWhat is that? I don't know what that is. Okay. Is that an inside joke? No, it's not. But I It just registered with me

Brian Atlasand it is pretty funny. Um but the bow the bow. The bow. Oh, okay. The bow. Exactly threshold. Thank you, Spyro, for

Brian Atlasthe messages. Uh every time I see the These are great. I'm not I'm not going to forget, Brian. Hold on. I'm like, I'm not going to forget Brian about this bow thing. Wait, I wrote down notes in case Andrew

Brian AtlasAndrew [ __ ] challenged me on this [ __ ] Hold on. I need my [ __ ] response. My what's it called when people have response to or rebuttal? Uh,

Brian Atlasbut a list of them. Wait, what is it? [ __ ] Wait. Oh, man. I had my [ __ ] I had Oh, you know what though? I You know, I just feel like we should I'm going to change the subject. I just feel

Brian Atlaslike we should change the subject. No, cuz you know you're about to get like BT BTFOed on the ballot. You're right. Let's do this. I just want to make sure that you know you insisted. Wait, hold

Brian Atlason. You insisted, bro. You insisted. Hold on. We'll do it. We'll do it. But uh let me let Wait, let me let these chats come through because I don't want to be a goblin. Yeah. Uh Christopher

Brian AtlasMurphy, long live Christopher Murphy donated $200. Pull up. Long live Big Labia. Hey guys, if you want to get a Big Leia Matter

Brian Atlasuh a Big Leia Matter shirt, t-shirt, or uh hoodie, shop whatever.com. We'll give you a shout out. Streamlabs shows when people make purchases through our shop. Thank you, Christopher Murphy, your

Brian Atlaslegend, sir. We have Lucas here. And then we have Big Jungle F. Uh oh. Hey, you didn't clarify Jungle what the F stands for, but um he doesn't need to. Now I feel like it's part of the

Joeymystique. Yeah, I feel like we know what that F stands for. Jungle Felipe. Jungle Fernandez. It's that it's Felipe. Jungle Fred would be so disappointed. Uh Lucas, someone in the chat suggested

Brian Atlasthat Andrew and I debate each other. If I had to handicap it, this is how it would go. I believe this, this, and that. Yep, I agree. I submit to you this jungle donated

SPEAKER_08$1,000. Pop Champagne chair five. You are dreaming of me. So technically I am the man of your present dreams. Congratulations

Andrew Wilsonyou won when you bow after kneeling dreams come true. You know you know jungle you're kind of hoing around on the crucible a little too much. You know you're hoing around a little too much

Andrew Wilsonhere Jungle. You know I I get the whole you know support the people who support but gez you know how how much is that by the way for Jungle? I think it's been

Brian Atlassix $6,000. Cheers to you, Jungle. Speaking I mean, hold on. But in retort to Andrew on this jungle, uh if you if you'd like, I'll arrange. Do you want to

Brian Atlasgo on a date? I think you do. You want to go on a date with Jungle? Yes.

Andrew WilsonI'm sorry. Uh can we see a picture? He didn't like you anyways. He didn't like you anyways. He was just messing around. It was a hypothetical. It was a rhetorical. Yeah, it was rhetorical. You know, Brian, I cracked this perfectly

Andrew Wilsongood joke and I feel like you made it kind of weird there. Not, you know, nothing. Nope. Little bit. I think you made it weird. No, it's just definitely you, bro. I think you made it. It was definitely you. Oh, okay.

Brian AtlasOh, Pasty, you are you are a little goblin. Pasty, you just Pasty. Oh, should I do a champagne pub or a ice cream pop? Bro, I have Wait, what? Huh?

Brian AtlasThank you, Andre. Okay, thank you guys for the super chats. Wait, let me find in my notes. Who the [ __ ] is that? Spur, dude. Who? Who? I don't know. Whoever you say is just out. I didn't even read it. Oh, well.

Brian AtlasYeah. Uh, guys, if you're enjoying the stream, read 100 TTS 200. Do so through streamlabs.com/ whatever. By the way, thank you, Jungle. It's been awesome, man. Thank you for so many champagne pops. You've been fantastic this

Brian Atlasevening. He's a brave and a decent man. He's a pioneer. Thank you, dude. You're a legend. Uh, we need to I You know what? I feel like we got to give Jungle something. Jungle's amazing. How about

Brian Atlasyou send Jungle like a whatever labia sweater? Jungle's like, "Look, I I got Do you Maybe he just wants like a whatever one instead." How about How about Well, the big labia one that's

Brian Atlaslike very neat. How about both? Give them both. Okay. Yeah, I'll do both. Uh guys, if you're enjoying the show, Venmo, Cash App, whatever. Pod. I'm going to do a couple shout outs here. Trevor, thank for the five on Venmo. Thomas, thank for the two on Cash App.

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Brian Atlasalready said it. Whatever.com and also big labia matter. Um okay, cool. All all of that great stuff. But up but Okay. Uh so me and Andrew, we're going to debate, but I need to find all my notes here to

Andrew Wilsonjust totally until you can. We should probably get into some of the show notes. I It seems like you're kind of like a little scared. That's the second time you demanded it. Find the notes. What? Second time, bro. Oh, a little

Natalie Stavolareverse psychology there for Brian. Do you already have notes prepared for this for like It was bound to happen one day. Yeah. Oh, so he knew it was bound to happen one day. Okay. One day. He was like, I know one day. I know. He's like, I know one day. I'm going to admit that

Andrew Wilsonfor the perfect woman I would bow and I'm going to have to have this debate with Andrew. Here are the notes. It's going to be here's here's how it's going to go, too. It's going to be hypothetical hypothetical hypothetical Andrew wins. Watch.

SPEAKER_01I think he's going to make some really good points, though. He's got to find it. I'm excited for the points. Cope. Brian. Cope. Cope. I got it, bro. Little little cop. I got it. Hold on. C. [Music]

Brian AtlasUh, so Oh, before we get into it, before we do, I need to pose her a question. I need to pose her one thing on the bow thing. So, okay. So, your perfect guy. What? What? That's fair. That's fair.

Brian AtlasYour perfect guy, right? So, this is uh this would be the perfect guy in terms of what you would find most physically attractive. Perfect guy in terms of what you would find in terms of personality.

Brian AtlasAnd then if you want, you could add on like he's a trillionaire. So, he's the richest man in the world. That's when I'm saying perfect. That's what I'm willing to grant for the hypothetical. Would you bow for that, man? If you just

Andrew Wilsonsaw what just happened, you would have lost your [ __ ] mind. Is it on? It's not a big deal. I'm just I'm just talking smack. It's not a big deal. No big deal. Is it like a flash? No. No. No. Nothing like that. Oh. Well,

Andrew Wilsonthat I walked by the camera. Yeah. No, no, no. Had nothing even to do with you. Like to? No. No. Nothing like that. Yeah. Oh. Anyway, go ahead. Sorry. Now I

Andrew Wilsonwant to know what the [ __ ] Yeah. Right. Okay. So, so you're all like OCD out all the time and so if the cameras aren't like where they follow the camera. No, she walked in front of it and we saw the

Andrew Wilsonback of her head for like a good 5 seconds before it's Oh, yeah. Right. Whatever. Whatever. I don't care. Whatever. It's not a big deal. All right. Uh, okay. Uh, answer.

Brian AtlasThree times a week. Yeah. Yeah. Now she's negotiating it. He's saving children in world hunger. He's Well, I'm going to up it, but would you for Yeah. Three times a week, would you do the

Brian Atlasbow? Okay. Okay. Seven uh every single day. No. I don't understand the differential though of like yes, three three days a

Brian Atlasweek, but no, not to seven days a week. Like what's the what's the uh reasoning there? [Music] Let me ask you a question. You're

Brian Atlasworking on your PhD, right? Once you get your PhD, do you want to become a professor? You want to I assume you want to get a good paying job. I want to become a professor. A professor? How

Wu (Cassie)much do professors make? Oh, I don't know. I'll work in China, but not very much. Okay. Uh if somebody came along

Brian Atlasuh some like really weird autistic guy came along and said he came along and he was like I'm going to pay you a million dollars a year and

Brian Atlasall you have to do is uh you have to work at my restaurant for 10 minutes a day and all you have to do is just bow to the guests who are coming into the restaurant only for 10 minutes a day and

Brian Atlashe'll pay you a million dollars a year and that's it. Would you do it? I would do it. Interesting. Okay. So, that's a million dollars a year. But you wouldn't

Brian Atlasyou wouldn't do it for your perfect man who's a trillionaire who conceivably your shared wealth would far exceed making a million dollars a year. I think it's a different thing because that

Wu (Cassie)would be a job. But now we are talking about my partner like why does he want me to do that? I think there's some like like power like difference here.

SPEAKER_01Let's even grant for sure it is. Let's even grant that it is a power thing and he just gets off. He gets off to it. Same thing as the employer though. The employer employ

Andrew Wilsonif he has you come in for 10 minutes a day to bow and gives you a million dollars. It's not about power. Well, is it it's got to be about power, right? But you would still do it even if it was about power. the employer just

Joeywanted to see you bow. What if in every other aspect he's treating you with respect? It's everything that your perfect man, your your relationship is about. All he's asking is for a moment of submission to be like I love you.

JoeyEverything you're giving me, like I appreciate everything you've given me. Yeah. It's almost like a thank you more than just like a I'm your I don't know. Subservient. Yeah. Yeah. It's not really in that way. I think sometimes people

Wu (Cassie)hear submissive and they think very negative. Would you? It's really hard to imagine that like he she's not into it. Seems like so if she's not the right match then if she's not into it too.

Shannon DaveyIt's just interesting because she's willing to do it for pay but not for the perfect partner of her dreams who where she could probably life in a certain time. I kind of get some of that with it being like your partner cuz that's the person you share every meal with. You

Shannon Daveyspend every night usually sleeping in bed with. So to know that that power dynamic is like off for her for the rest of her life in that relationship whereas a job she could come in a couple shifts

Guidanceget a couple mill and dip. But look at but look at you what you're pursuing um mast's doctors which one phd a PhD a woman pursuing a PhD or with a PhD is

Shannon Daveyprobably not bowing to anyone. So I think it goes right back to the I think women with PhD would bow for million dollar. We got one right here who has her notes turned up and I would she said she would she's willing to do it as a

Shannon Daveyjob but she's not willing to do it for the partner of her rest of her life. Right. So this one I have a a bit of an internal conflict with. Do I think that

Andrew Wilsonthere's men out there who are very prideful and would be very dominant in a relationship but would still go to like a Caesar's palace and bow for 10 minutes for a million dollars a year. I think they would think so. I don't think that

Andrew Wilsonthat's even problematic or contradictory. The whole point here is the the matter of like love and respect. The idea is is that your partner if they feel like it's showing them love and

Andrew Wilsonrespect for you for you to take the submissive position, they want to see that in a bow. Is that appropriate? That's really what the heart of the question is. Not whether or not you go to a Caesar's palace and bow for a [ __ ] million dollars cuz almost

Andrew Wilsonanybody would, right? Yeah. That's simple. That's Yeah. 10 minutes. If it would benefit my entire family to go to a Caesar's palace and bow for 10 [ __ ] minutes in order to get a million bucks, yeah, I [ __ ] take the million bucks and laugh on my way out. But in regards

Shannon Daveyto what we're comparing here, where it's her job for part-time work of a million dollars a shift and then the rest of her life is being spent with somebody, it's like you going to Caesar's palace and they're saying, "You have to give up your wife and your children. Here's a

Andrew Wilsonmillion dollars, but now you're with me." Yeah. Yeah. But that's a completely different type of hypothetical that really doesn't dive in. I don't think that I don't think the hypothetical gets to the heart of what we're trying to get to. No, that's her argument is that she

Andrew Wilsonwould be willing to do it for work for the 10 minutes of bowing at a restaurant. Which is exactly why I think the hypothetical doesn't get to what we're trying to get to. Yeah. I would just concede that I think that most men, if I went to basically any man on planet Earth and was like, "Hey, show up for 10

Andrew Wilsonminutes and bow to people and I'll give you a million bucks." He doesn't give a [ __ ] He's like, "Whatever. I'll take the million bucks and laugh all all the way to the bank. Right? That doesn't really get to the heart of what we're after here. The heart of what we're

Andrew Wilsonafter is is that if a man wants that type of submission from his woman, right? Just wants it. Yeah. For some reason, he feels like this is the ultimate way in which he receives respect and you really adore him and

SPEAKER_08love him. Would you do it? Yeah. I've also dated men. [Music] Jungle donated $1,000. Pop champagne. Don't want a

SPEAKER_08date, don't need a date. My woman is stacked with gracious femininity. The both of me is if I want, she gives because she trusts me. I don't ask for

Natalie Stavolait. BTW, I'm leaving the f mystery. There we go. Jungle man. There we go. Um, I've dated guys that were like that that like they they loved that kind of dynamic, but they also appreciated that

Natalie StavolaI, you know, stronger in other areas, right? It wasn't it wasn't like I'm always subservient. I'm always like submissive. It was like they love that I was strong and had a career and and they empowered me in it and it was this really cool power dynamic. A different

Andrew Wilsonexample that you could give her that wasn't specifically a bow. I'm wondering if it's the bow that makes it seem like it's a Well, I think I think the bow is the bow is fine. Champagne. I'll take champagne. I think that I think that the

Andrew Wilsonbow is a a fine fine example. Pass the bottle down. The idea here is like women get on their knees and suck men's dicks. It's like don't don't give me a bunch of [ __ ] about how bowing is too [ __ ]

Guidanceit's it's a little too much to bow. It's like no it's not give me a break for for every day to the same person maybe though like you know that's made by Brian by the

Brian Atlasway if the guy if the guy's argument this is how I frame the argument it's like okay you won't bow to a guy but on the first date you'll have sex with him

Shannon Daveyyou'll give him head you'll let him blast on your face I like that though Brian that women feel like they're getting something out of that whereas The bowing they might think is just like a we it's just weird

Joeyfor I think she just may be an exception to the rule. There's always going to be exceptions. She may be the one of you know I'm not going. We found the diamond in the rough. I think that's what it is. I think I feel like the major other than

Joeybecause you you're a little more masculine presenting. I think the majority of us are like yeah we're going to do that. I think the more feminine women the [ __ ] it went all the way over there. What the [ __ ] What the [ __ ]

Brian AtlasIt's here. That's yours. No, that's yours. No way. No, that's yours. No, it's not. I've been drinking from the bottles. Did you want any more? No, I'm okay. I've been drinking from the bottles. Do you want more? Yeah. Fill up

Brian Atlasmore for you. Fill up more for you. And then the rest is for uh Oh, wow. Okay. I mean, we have Yeah, she's She's not [ __ ] around. Uh, Jungle, you're a legend, sir. Thank

Brian Atlasyou, sir. Thank you. Thank you, Jungle. Oh my. This guy is on fire. I still have some of the original bottles, so we'll do a cheers. Uh uh cheers to um bowing. I

Andrew WilsonYeah, I haven't I haven't. By the way, Brian Brian, I just want to let you know two times two times now you're like Andrew is running away from the bow debate. And uh just I just wanted to

Brian Atlaskind of bring it back real quick. Just saying. I'm out, boys. I'm out, boys. By the way, the pizza and the burrito and the ice cream is coming.

Andrew WilsonIt's on the way, boys. And not not for you. You get nothing. The rules. Oh, I've done that. I did one time. Okay, this one time. You

Andrew Wilsonguys can find this. It's some lore, right? I I don't I don't know if the frame was on me. Maybe they move the frame off. Maybe Brian can put it behind the scenes. But one time there was like an almost full champagne bottle and I

Andrew Wilsonwas like, "Fuck, nobody's drinking anything." So I I had to make some content. So I tried to toss it back and the whole thing flared up and it just went all over me. It was terrible. And there's something about champagne that

Brian Atlasbubbles more. Andrew Pasty's asking what he wants to do a specific kind of pop in front of the female panelist. So what could like there's the pizza

Brian Atlaspop, there's the ice cream pop, the burrito pop, the champagne pop. He wants to do a unique I refuse to do any type of monkey activity in front of women

Brian Atlasever. Uh I actually refuse to do that. Yeah. H I mean pasty pasty. We have cris uh balls of crystalall for one Ethereum.

Brian AtlasUh my Ethereum thing is in the description for the of the video. So you can do crystalall if you want to do something a bit unique. Um there's also some I know hey hang on hang on. I know

Andrew WilsonI know what we could do and this will really piss off Brian and that'll make everybody happy. If you send in Brian one Ethereum I'll light up a smoke in this room. Yes. Yes. Oh, he'll be so [ __ ] mad.

Andrew WilsonHe will be so pissed. Look, honestly, I don't care. It's the landlord. Well, you'll be all right. One cigarette won't do it, bro.

Brian AtlasHere, here's some options. Py George, I'll propose some options for a pop. Uh, so thousand. You can have one of the guests, including me. Andrew, are you willing? I am wearing

Brian Atlasthe [ __ ] You're not wearing the hat? No way. Okay. do it for Andrew for 10 minutes. They'll wear the helicopter hat. Uh you also um I have a couple Dr. Seuss books. You can ask one panelist. I

Brian Atlasdo want to see you wear the helicopter hat. I do for no I have I don't have I have no good reason for it. He's trying to deflect for Andrew. Uh Cat in the Hat.

Brian AtlasSomebody has to read Cat in the Hat. I have Green Eggs and Ham. And I have the I I do want to kind of see you read Cat in the Hat for no good reason at all.

Brian AtlasThose are some options. Read Harry Potter. Uh those are some options. I think I feel like he's stalling anyway. It could be. He's just He's enjoying the attention. He's enjoying the He's either Brian's alter. We have

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