Brian CONFRONTS Woke Misandrist College Girl?! HEATED DEBATE! Based Girl RETURNS! | Dating Talk #269

Date: 2025-11-17

Duration: 8h 20m

Guests

Brian Atlas

SSeline (Cosmetology)>

GGrace (Zoology)>

NNatalie/Morena Chinga >

LLauren (Buddhist)>

EErica (Married 264)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Seline(guest)

SPEAKER_04Lauren (Buddhist)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Selena(guest)

SPEAKER_09Natalie/Morena(guest)

SPEAKER_10Grace (Zoology)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Essie(guest)

SPEAKER_12Samra(guest)

SPEAKER_13Erica (Married)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 8 guests introduce themselves

ControversySelena wants red pill men 'eradicated'

Key MomentBrian presents selective service as systemic male oppression. 40-min debate.

QuoteSelena: 'I think men suck. 60-70% of men suck.'

ControversyGrace prefers world without men. Selena cannot say no to snapping men away.

Key MomentLauren: Buddhist nun, FBI investigated for Jan 6

ControversySelena: 'white people invented racism'

OtherSelena leaves. Brian calls her most argumentative guest ever.

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

8 guests including Selena (Georgetown/TikTok), Lauren (Buddhist nun/Jan 6).

Red Pill Eradication

Selena wants red pill men 'eradicated.' Brian challenges.

Selective Service Debate

40-minute debate on draft as male systemic oppression.

65% of Men Suck

Selena: 65% of men suck. Brian: that's sexist.

Stolen Land / Immigration

Selena: 'no one is illegal on stolen land.' Native American debate.

Snap All Men Away

Grace and Selena cannot say no to removing all men. Brian shocked.

Colombia / Palestine Allegiance

Natalie sides with Mexico/Palestine. Selena refuses to answer.

Lauren Jan 6

FBI investigated but did not arrest Lauren for Jan 6 attendance.

Body Count

Lauren: 5M/2W. Natalie: 100+. Essie: 12-13.

Bow Video

Brian shows ex bowing video. Selena uses it as grounds to leave.

Transcript

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Brian Atlascome on whatever to brag about billionaire guys? Total lies. Come on. No woman on whatever ever had a billionaire that is peacocking. Peace out. [laughter] Uh yeah, I know who you're talking about. That's probably true. David,

Brian Atlasthank you, man. Verades, Canadian. Uh Essie, can you read this one? >> When someone says men hurt women, it ignores the fact that the only reason that women is being is being protected

Essieat all is because other men step in to stop the harmful man. If men as a group were inherently harmful, then there would be no men defending women from other men. >> Yeah. You know >> what? Have you heard of a gun?

Brian Atlas>> A gun? Well, okay. I mean, >> come on. It's not always men defending women. A lot of times it could also be self. >> Hold on. The major So, the majority, look, men get a lot of flack, but I think, you know, also in terms of what I

Brian Atlaswas talking about earlier with the lack of gratitude, when it comes to acts of bravery, acts of heroism, men are very much over represented there. When you see some like natural disaster, you look

Brian Atlasyou look at the flooding that happened in Texas, it's a man carrying some old grandma. It's a man going into the the rushing waters and grabbing a dog or a man [clears throat] saving kids or a man

Brian Atlassaving women. You don't see women like wholesale like, "Yeah, yeah, we're going to rescue people." So, I think you need to balance your like men are so horrible in all these ways. What about male

Brian Atlasbravery? What about male courage? What about I don't know why you're lying. Like almost all acts of the vast majority of acts of bravery and courage and life saving and emergency saving,

Brian Atlasit's men. >> Where's the gratitude there? Firemen, predominantly men. I think there's a complete lack of like, look, yeah, there's some there's a

Brian Atlasthere's bad men out there. They've done bad things, but what about all the like great things men do? Not even in life-saving situations. What about just like the the even you might laugh at this just the plumbers? There's not

Brian Atlas>> Why would I laugh at that? >> I don't know. You might be like, "That's silly, Brian. That's kind of minuscule." Uh I mean, [ __ ] literally, no pun intended, would hit the fan if we didn't have people who It's almost men who do

Brian Atlasthe dirty, dangerous, >> uh gross, hazardous jobs. Like I I don't think you understand if all uh [sighs and gasps]

Brian Atlaslike waste like literally garbage men if they just stopped like that [ __ ] piles up and [ __ ] gets really uncomfortable and there there was a I don't know if it was recently

Brian Atlas>> or maybe it was a a couple years back but there were garbage men who go on strike >> and trust me [ __ ] gets really uncomfortable when trash isn't being collected and like all these little

Brian Atlaspieces of infrastructure that exist in this country which are it's like 99% men who are doing these infra like critical infrastructure jobs. Like you can thank

Brian Atlasmen the lights that are on. We look, we live in Southern California. It doesn't get too cold, but you live in like a cold region in the United States. Uh

Brian Atlasyeah, the electrical grid, the electrical system, that's like when it's [ __ ] snowstorming and there's a

Brian Atlascatastrophic breakdown in, you know, power the power grid failure or um uh utility pole collapses or whatever. It's

Brian Atlasnot some 5 foot2 woman going out at 3:00 a.m. in the snow, in the rain, in the hazard. It's a man who's going to get that back on. And there's a complete

Brian Atlaslack of gratefulness for the sacrifices men make and how men really I Yeah, you don't like to hear it. I get it. You don't like to hear it. All this crit critical infrastructure if men just

Brian Atlasdisappeared. If men You might like that, right? Would you like men to disappear if you could? >> Did I say that? >> I'm asking you. I didn't You didn't say it. I'm asking you. >> Do you think Do you think the world would be better without men?

Brian AtlasDo you have an answer? >> Do I think the world would be better without men? >> Like assuming women could like asexually reproduce or whatever. >> So you could like not the species doesn't die.

Grace (Zoology)>> If I could like choose to live in like a world with just women. >> Yeah, >> I think I probably would. I think that'd be cool. >> What about you? >> Ask again the question, >> bro. What the [ __ ] >> I'm disassociating.

Brian Atlas[laughter] >> Okay. Would um would you prefer to I mean >> I know calm down. >> Why is that like the conversation has been going on for so long? Come on. >> It's going to continue. The question is >> like I'm saying you can't be mad cuz

Brian Atlassomeone didn't >> Would you prefer Would you prefer to uh live in a world without men? >> I like men. I like men and women. >> Okay. Your answer >> probably. >> It's also interesting like if somebody

Brian Atlasasked me, Brian, would you prefer to live with like immediately? Of course you wouldn't want to live with other men, >> right? Because I'm not a sexist like you. >> No, because [clears throat] who wants to live with >> Why do you have to think about that? By the way, why is there even a pause? Like it just demonst like

Brian Atlas>> I can't think. >> Hold on. It's literally some like insane >> Oh, so I can't think. I I just need to like have all my answers like on dock for [clears throat] you. >> Well, I feel like I feel like certain answers would be get like an instantaneous >> Well, this wasn't a

Brian Atlas>> Of course, I wouldn't want to get rid of all men. Oh, >> if you could snap your fingers, like you had the power to do it to get rid of all men, would you do it? >> I would need to think on it. That's a big decision.

Brian Atlas>> But just to be clear, the knee-jerk reaction is not, "Whoa, that's terrible. Of course, I wouldn't get rid of all men." That's not your knee-jerk reaction. I get that you'd have to think, >> like, are we talking about like, "Oh,

Brian Atlas[clears throat] men just never existed." Men did exist, but you snap your finger and they're all gone. And women can asexually. >> This is what I'm going to say to this, right? >> I can't believe it's not an automatic.

Brian AtlasNo, that's ridiculous. Okay, but go ahead. What do you have to say? >> You done? >> I am done. Go ahead. >> Okay. Um, so what I want to say to your point,

Selena>> Yeah. >> is do I believe that I want to eradicate all men? No. Not right now. I think. [laughter] >> Okay, right now >> I wait for one more to do [snorts] her

SPEAKER_00dirty and then she'll be done with [clears throat] them. >> I don't know why that triggered my bad. I was blame it on me. >> See how the termites have spread and how long and well they've dined. >> Why did you just play that? >> That was weird.

Essie>> Maybe maybe next week. >> I just can't I can't believe you're that shocked by her answer because of I mean I would have assumed she would have said that based off just all of the conversations. >> I guess given Yeah. context, it's not

Brian Atlasthat confused. It seems like >> So be honest though, you could just snap your fingers and they don't they don't die like a harmful death. They just disappear. All the men disappear. >> So it's not like you're, you know, you're not torturing them or something.

Brian AtlasThey just like >> all gone. Me, Nick, I don't know if there's any trans people here. All gone. [laughter] >> People, >> that was an unnecessary comment. >> Well, I [clears throat] mean, males. >> He doesn't know.

Selena>> Okay, whatever. Disregard that. I Whatever. So, what I want to say to you, >> my friend, >> why don't you just instead of telling me you're going to tell me something is there like a problem with me saying that

Erica (Married)so long to say something? >> It it [laughter] kind of like So, this is what I'm going to play. >> Just say what you're going to say. [laughter] >> Can you use that accent more often? I love that. So great. Your little valley

Essiegirl accent. >> I would love to have another conversation. And I feel like this one is she's >> she's like >> very good debater by the way, but never changing her mind on anything. >> I did want to bring up. So >> wait, wait, hold on, hold on.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, so just to be clear, >> it's not an immediate like you snap your fingers. Men are >> Why is this like the seventh time you've asked the same thing to clarify? >> So just is it yes, yes or how about just

Brian Atlasa yes or no for simplicity sake? Uh, if you had the power to do it and you could snap your fingers and all men disappear and women can asexually reproduce or I don't know, y'all could [ __ ] each other. I don't know, whatever. So, it's not the

Brian Atlasend of the species, right? Or maybe you want that. Maybe you think humans are a blight on the world. Um, >> oh, >> I don't know. Some people believe that. Some people believe that [ __ ] So, >> okay. So, I what I'm going to say to you,

Selena>> would you if you had the power to do it, would you do it? That is more complicated than just a yes or no answer. That it's more nuanced than that. And not everything is black and white.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Uh so what's your nuance answer? >> Okay. [snorts] Not everything is just yes. No. There's more there's nuance. There's like >> I don't think I don't think there's nuance to that. That's okay. Okay. I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to refrain from Go ahead. Go ahead. >> If there's nuance to it, it's probably no, right? Like [laughter] >> it's not compelling enough. >> Make the point. Make the argument. Please, please, please. I want to move it on.

Selena>> God, men are harmful to women. I think I would have a more peaceful life if men were

Selenanot there, [snorts] frankly. Okay. Does that mean that I think all men are bad? No. But I think a large a good amount of men make it extremely difficult for

Selenawomen in day-to-day life. And so, I would need to There are there You're Yes, you're right. There are pros to men, there are also cons. So, I would need to take time, evaluate the pros, evaluate the cons, and then come to a conclusion.

Grace (Zoology)>> So, are we keeping up? >> Really quick, and then you said yes, you you would. >> Well, you were talking about like a a separate world, like would I want to live? I was thinking, >> would the well, you're saying the well,

Grace (Zoology)would [snorts] the world be better without men? >> To which you said yes. Correct. I think I would not snap my fingers to get rid of all men at this moment. And

Grace (Zoology)that's not that I'm saying that like I would do that in the future. But I think if there was like a big like world that I could step into where like men haven't been around for like the beginning of

Grace (Zoology)time and it's like all women. I think if there's like a complete society set up that's like >> I don't know like a utopia or something where it's all like like you think about like Wonder Woman like where she came from, right? Like you know like this the Wonder Woman movie. I'm like thinking about that like I would love to step

Grace (Zoology)into that world. That sounds beautiful. I also like am by so like it's chill. I could get by. No pun intended. But >> I think there's a [laughter] there's

Brian Atlas>> there's a societal reliance on men that extends beyond just romantic >> uh prospects. But >> how about this? You have total power. Like you have superpower or something. And with your superpower, uh, let's say

Brian Atlaswe're not gonna like >> un alive or disappear all men, but you can you can like forcefully move all men to some island or some [ __ ] and all the women can have their own [ __ ] places and [ __ ]

Grace (Zoology)>> Would you do that? >> Well, I think there's like a lot of men that are in power right now that there's some good ones and there's some bad ones. And I think if we got rid of all of them right now and put them on an island, then that would a lot of things

Grace (Zoology)would crumble. It would make things very hard. some more classism, less sexism. [laughter] >> Wait, sorry. >> You're saying you're saying it would be worse if we did that to the men or I'm just >> No, no, I'm just saying that if we all put them on an island like there all like the men that are like what you were

Grace (Zoology)saying like plumbers and like firefighters and all that [ __ ] like we wouldn't have that. And so like men do play a very important part in our current society >> and so I think it would be really really hard for a very long time if we did that.

Brian Atlas>> But how about this in the scenario? So look, that that is my position that like there would be major cascading like infrastructure issues if you just like instantly disappeared all men. Like >> it'd be the same for if you got rid of

Brian Atlasall women too. Like >> I mean, okay, not to the same effect, but it would like there would still be catastrophic like events. >> Well, where I dispute you with here a bit, my dispute here a bit would be as

Brian Atlasit relates to like uh infrastructure jobs. So there's so few women in critical infrastructure jobs that uh there would be like obviously there's

Brian Atlaslike the social catastrophe of like holy [ __ ] my mom my wife my sister uh all these people are gone like that's >> horrible [snorts] yeah >> terrible but like I'm more so when I'm

Brian Atlastalking about infrastructure I'm more so looking at it from like okay in a comparison between men and women who is more represented in like telecom communications,

Brian Atlasuh, electric like the electrical grid. Um, who does these like, uh, farming, trucking, transportation, firefighters. Um, I'm sure I'm missing

Brian Atlaslike a ton a ton. Maybe people in the chat can give me like maybe somebody in the chat. >> Oil rig workers, >> people who work on oil rigs, >> 90% of the wood mill, [clears throat]

Brian Atlas>> rough necks, loggers, all this, all this stuff. Um, if all the men disappear like there will be uh just within Okay, so here's what happens basically.

Brian Atlas>> Wait, I agree with you. >> Yeah, but I guess what happens is within within like 3 days >> electricity is gone. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Uh that so telecommunications is gone. >> Uh you have within like a week your food supply completely devastated. I mean you

Brian Atlashave like certain foods in places where um you know last obviously some foods are not as perishable or not perishable or whatever. Well I guess on a long enough

Brian Atlastimeline or whatever but then you don't have police force so there's going to be mass looting by the women. You guys are going to loot all the grocery stores. Uh fires fires will eventually break out. Uh there's not enough women

Brian Atlasfirefighters. So, you're going to basically like most cities within a few days, uh maybe one or two weeks, they're all going to be burned, >> but like the fires are there's not enough women firefighters. Um I'm sure

Brian Atlasthere's a whole bunch like water processing. Uh there are men who are involved in this like [ __ ] when it comes to infrastructure, [ __ ] just breaks. [ __ ] goes wrong. And

Brian Atlasthere's men who know how to fix it. And there maybe a one or two women who know how to fix that [ __ ] But there's not enough women where like if all men disappear, like that shit's >> I don't know. Anyways, whatever. Um

Erica (Married)>> I think we'd be a little bit better off if there was more women who prioritize like homemaking skills. Like maybe if you could bake your own bread or can your own veggies now. >> Yeah, you're right. You're right. Which >> I think I love it too. I think it's amazing. If you ever need some sourdough starter, I got you.

Brian Atlas>> Love that. >> Yes. [laughter] I but >> love that in healthy doses. >> Oh yeah. >> Yo, Selena, we need you back here. >> Healthy doses >> because [clears throat] let me play this really quick.

SPEAKER_00>> Wretch guy donated $222. Men and women are both victims of a very small percentage of bad men. I didn't see it. >> Men are two times more likely to be victims of violent crimes and three

Brian Atlastimes more likely to be victims of robberies from the bad men. Mhm. >> I mean, as it relates to like total violent crime, it is true. Yeah. That men are more likely to be victims of uh

Brian Atlasof violent crime here. Do we have chance or No, I think we're good. Um, okay. Read 100, TTS 200. Uh, if you guys want to get it in, I look, I guess my kind of

Brian Atlas>> befuddlement, it's amazing to me that you need to think about it. >> Oh my god. This again. >> No, but I mean, >> are we done with this? >> Well, because you walked away. I guess

Brian Atlasmy issue is like if you asked me, "Hey, Brian, if you could snap your fingers and uh all women just disappeared, it's like an instant no." >> Okay, I'm not going to talk about the same thing over and over and over. Is

Brian Atlasthere like a new topic? >> But you have an issue with like you think red pill. You've said multiple like really objectionable things on this

Brian Atlaspodcast that is frankly worse than anything I've heard Andrew Tate say. >> Like you saying you have to think about

Brian Atlas>> like it not being an immediate no. >> Absolutely not. I wouldn't unal alive all men. Like just >> Okay. Can I say something? Andrew Tate says, "I, you know, oh, uh, I don't

Brian Atlasthink women pilots are good." >> And you can have objections to that. >> That's nowhere near as bad >> as saying you have to. You can't just

Brian Atlasgive an immediate knee-jerk no to unalivvening all men. >> Okay. >> Do you realize like it's not even Is it processing? Is it clocking, bro? >> Oh my god. [laughter] >> That was like so embarrassing.

Brian Atlas>> Is it clocking? Are you using slaying? >> So, I'm not trying I'm not trying to be rude, but that was really embarrassing. >> It was embarrassing. You're so right, >> guys. But you know what's more embarrassing more embarrassing is not having a knee. Like if somebody asks you

Selenaa question, do you think we should unalive like half the population of >> I never said that. We said >> you said I have to think about >> magically word magically snap your fingers and they're going to disabal alive. Yeah. Disappear. >> That's not unal alive, my friend. You

Brian Atlasdidn't say, "Oh, would you kill them?" >> Yeah. Now, okay. So e your position if it's just they disappear. Yeah. Still really objectionable. >> Okay. Raise your hand if you want a new

Brian Atlastopic. >> I just I'm not Look, that might be >> We've already talked about this. >> Craziest thing. And a lot of women have said some crazy [ __ ] on this show. You

Selenadon't give a knee-jerk absolutely not. >> Oh my god. How many more times are you going to repeat the same thing? This isn't good. >> I think it's going to be really hard. Is it good for like media consumption? We need to change topics.

Selena>> Think >> I guess I'm still stuck on it because it's such a Okay, so tonight when you go to bed, you can think about it. I will think about it >> and you can contemplate it. This [laughter] conversation's going to haunt you. >> And if you want to follow up and you have more

Selena>> This is what I was talking about. >> Wait, are we going to I feel like we, you know, we disagree, but I feel like it's been fun. Are we round two? Are we we going to do a round two? Well, so if you if you're Oh my god. >> Sorry. Oh my god.

Selena>> If you're interested in more of me, you can go to my Tik Tok at Selena the Yapper on Tik Tok and Instagram. >> A round two. You said we can do a round two. >> I never said that. >> I said we can do a round two. >> Okay. Well, [laughter] I never said that. And it takes two for consent.

SPEAKER_08>> Oh my god. >> Did you know that consent? [laughter] >> Are you down for a round two? >> Okay, we'll talk after the show.

Brian Atlas>> No consent. Consent. Oh my goodness. Okay. Um [clears throat] here I'm going to focus. >> Okay. Like >> Oh my god. [laughter] >> Can we move it on?

Selena>> I'm just saying like you want to bring up me talking about Charlie Kirk. You want to bring up Why don't we talk about that? There's so many other topics on the table. >> Yeah. I'm moving. But I I'm actually I want to open it up to some of the other So we can maybe save that [ __ ] for

Selenalater. >> Are you trying to say that I've been talking the conversation? You have been directing the conversation towards me. That is not my fault. I was over there. You start saying, "And Selena, come back. Selena, come back." That's not the issue. >> You're the contest.

Erica (Married)>> So, did you [laughter] have something that you wanted to I I know you were raising your hand, but >> it was a little while ago. Honestly, I don't remember. >> Okay, that's fine. I'll move it on. Um >> I kind of wanted to round back to the you were talking about how um what is

Erica (Married)it? you were saying mo e either modern feminist or most women they have this ungrateful attitudes attitude towards men the sacrifices that they make and what they do to protect and provide for us and I just wanted to ask everybody uh

Erica (Married)does everybody at the table do you think that a man being a coward makes him less attractive? >> Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. >> A coward. >> I think it would depend on the context. Like like he squeals and cries when he

Erica (Married)sees a mouse and then he makes you go get it. Or he makes you turn the light on because he saw something scary at night. >> That would be really unattractive to me. >> I think I can agree with that.

Seline>> That's very humanize them to me a little bit. I don't know. [laughter] >> I like that. I do like that. >> Vulnerability is good. Like I don't want them to think like you can't get scared of the mouse. But when you're

Grace (Zoology)get the mouse, but don't put it on me if I'm scared of the mouse too, you know? >> I feel like it's chill to be scared of a mouse. It's not chill if it's like someone's like coming at me like I want you to like step in front of me. >> Yeah. Your man should be able to protect and defend you. So, like in being a

Grace (Zoology)coward that way, like that's not chill. But like behind you, whatever. Oh my goodness. It's chill. [laughter] >> I'm trying to remember. There's that um there's that one real short guy and he

Erica (Married)talks about how his wife's an MMA star and he's like, "Yeah, like she protects me." And I'm like, "Oh my god, [laughter] >> that's cute." Cute though. Yeah. >> As long as they're happy. >> It is cute. Yeah, >> that's true. As long as they're happy. >> Yeah. I just genuinely wanted to know

Selinekind of wanted to pivot back to that one topic before we move on. Thank you guys. I also I do think that like we might need to touch on the what gratitude means to everybody here >> because when I hear like oh we should be

Essiewe should have gratitude towards men and what they do. I don't think oh I'm going to get on my [ __ ] knees right >> I don't think anybody thinks that. I think the general assumption is that you should just be generally grateful for men. >> So I don't understand why that would be a sentiment that not everybody at the

Essietable can agree with. >> Right. Right. >> I think if anything we should both be grateful for both women and men. Exactly. You can say you can say one without have like we can compliment men without being like but what about women? You can just give a compliment to a man

Essieor be grateful man. We don't always have to reference women. Speaking about men. I totally agree. >> Um >> can I ask more about your relationship? >> Yes, you can.

Seline>> I'm curious why you said that you got back with him after he cheated on you. >> Um well it wasn't physical. >> Oh. Um I but I do consider the porn thing cheating as well.

Seline>> Um I think because I see a genuine shift in his perspective on it. He genuinely saw that that was a really negative thing not just for our relationship but for him.

Seline>> I saw that shift in his perspective. I saw that shift in his his actions. The way that he treats me is completely different. He has completely shut that out of his life. So, I do believe that like the right man, somebody who

Selineactually is just genuinely unhealed and has issues and wants to change will change. >> But, um, obviously that's not everybody's situation. >> And at the end of the day, you know, if something does happen, it's not your fault.

Seline>> Exactly. I I've come to the the realization that what he did has nothing to do with me. >> Realistically, it has nothing to do with me. That is a an issue that he has because of what happened in his childhood or what happened with him

Erica (Married)sexually as a kid. There are reasons for that that don't relate to me and I don't need to make it my problem. >> It also affects me of course. >> Do you feel like you guys have been like learning and growing and changing the past two years of being together outside

Selineof this one bump in the road? >> Absolutely. I think that that a relationship like this is completely new for me. I've never really been in a serious relationship. Um >> but apparently this is not a new situation for him.

Selena>> Oh. >> So the the reason that you guys ended things or >> Well, it never ended. Okay. I actually I never actually broke up with him. >> So, did you like find out about it or did he like open >> I I went on his computer after um we had

Selinebroken up for a little while. We were both kind of unsure about the relationship. A lot of arguing, stupid stuff, honestly. >> Um and we had finally kind of worked past that actually and I got back or we

Selinehad gotten back together and I actually was at his house. I went on his computer minding my business, you know, trying to play a game. I go on Twitter and I kid you not over thousands of bookmarks of just only fans model, only fans model,

Selineonly fans model. It took me hours. I like I went through and screenshotted everything on my phone. It took me hours and I confronted him obviously >> and he was very shameful about it, you know, very guilty.

Brian Atlas>> Um, before I get into dating, I did there was some like a chat or something that came through I wanted to touch on really quickly. It was really quickly just related to the immigration thing. I promise we won't linger on it. Um, is

Brian Atlasanybody here either an immigrant or a child of immigrants? >> Okay. >> Child, >> um, >> child. >> What's just what's your background, I guess? >> What do you mean?

Brian Atlas>> Oh, just like where your parents from? You said your parents are immigrants or are you are you an immigrant? >> Oh, no, no, no. My So, my parents are immigrants and >> like first generation. >> Yeah. So, they >> fix her mic and she keeps playing with the

Brian AtlasSo, >> oh, I see it. Um, just turn that thing back and put put the thing at the very bottom. This thing. This thing bottom. >> And then turn it >> towards you.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, >> okay. And then scoot your mic to the very edge of the table. Okay. Um, so your parents are what or where are they from? >> We're Palestinian. >> Pal. Both your parents? >> Yes.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. And then you said you have >> Oh, my father is an immigrant. He's from Haiti. >> Haiti. Okay. Uh, and it was you? >> Mexico. >> Mexico. Uh, were you born there or were

Samrayour parents born there or >> parents? >> Okay. So, you were you were born in the United States. Okay. And then you I think >> Yeah. Um, my my my mom and my grandpa are from Mexico. >> Heck yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Mom and grandpa. Okay. But both your parents born here? No, my mom and my mom came from Mexico and so did my grandpa. >> Okay. I just I was curious about this. Um

Brian Atlasif uh I guess we can start with we'll start with Mexico. If the United States went to war with Mexico, what side which country do you side with? Starting with you.

Brian Atlas>> Mexico. >> Mexico. What about you? >> United States. >> United States. And then if the United States went to war with Palestine, which country do you side with? Why would the United States go to war

Selenawith Palestine? That is so that is much more nuanced than oh, which side do you side with? >> Uh, well, I mean, that's just a hypothetical. >> Okay. Yeah, but I would need nuance. I

Erica (Married)need context. I need to understand what was occurring. So, I'm I can't answer that question. Obviously, I'm just going to not answer that question. >> I think the question is just your answer should just be based off your own principles or your own morals. Like, what side would you choose in that

Brian Atlassituation? whatever side is morally correct. So, it has to be debating on like the topic or the reason of conflict. >> I'll just make it super easy. Let's since it is a hypothetical, let's assume

Brian Atlasthe contribution to the conflict is equal. >> So, both sides, it's not like >> I don't condone war, but it's not just like, oh, the US is a bully and they're

Brian AtlasNo, it's just like uh this side did something, this side equally uh equally responsible or whatever for the don't condone war. So, >> do you think it's possible either?

Selena>> Do you think it's possible for war to not exist? >> Hold on. >> If you have to pick >> I said I don't condone war, so I would

Selenacondone neither. >> Well, hold on. Um, what? Let's say you had the op you women get drafted and

Selena>> I do not condone war. I'm not going to answer a hypothetical sit scenario that I I don't understand any of the context. I don't know what's going on. Like, come on. And this is like, okay, just make

Brian Atlasyour point here. Just make your point. >> The Okay, you don't need a hypothetical. >> Hold on. You're not going to dictate the terms of my hypothetical. So, if the USA goes to war with Mexico, which country

Selenado you side with? >> I need to know what's going on. >> Equal contribution to >> I don't know. I don't think it you you if you had to pick one, which one do you pick? >> It depends on ex specifically what is

Selenaoccurring. There's no such thing as neutral distribution. There would have been no reason that war was the war was started. >> I don't think she wants to answer. >> I don't think you're going to answer. >> I mean, I I don't I don't think you need

Brian Atlasto muddy the waters like this. >> Okay. I mean, I just like next next question. >> Like, is it hypothetical >> or you can just make your point to the people that answer? Is it logically possible that two countries can be in

Brian Atlasthe wrong in a conflict and like maybe it's not exactly 50/50 but it's like 45 555 and like they they have a dispute and it's not like it's not like good

Selenaguys bad guys it's just a war >> people. Okay. So what is your point here? >> I'm just trying to get an answer. >> Okay. Well, I don't have an answer to that question.

Selena>> Uh okay. Um, is there chat? Is there a way for me to reframe >> Oh my god. Are you that desperate for an answer? Come on now. >> Well, or you could just be good faith and answer the question.

Selena>> It's not me trying to be bad faith. It's me genuinely. I do not have an answer. It's It's much more complicated than that. >> So, I think that maybe a good example would be like a war over the claim of

Erica (Married)unclaimed territory. So, then they would be equal to blame and equally in the right because they both want something for the same reason. I think that would be a a good hypothetical if you want to think more about what side that you

Selenawould take. >> Wait, what's your major again? It's foreign policy. >> Yes. Which is why I'm asking you for >> Isn't this like your wheel? >> Yeah, it is. Which is why I'm asking you

Selenafor specific examples. You can't two countries are at war. Okay. And war and conflict is much more nuanced than that. I would know. >> And I granted in this, >> can you stop interrupting please? I

Brian Atlasgranted in this specific circumstance >> that like there's some equal contribution to the conflict that's arisen that's the circumstance.

Selena>> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Like I said I do not know. >> I don't but I'm okay. She doesn't know. What was the question again? >> Um,

Brian Atlas>> oh, the question was just like if uh if America went to war with Palestine. Oh, >> so that's like her, you know, her parents are Palestinian, she's Palestinian. >> Um, that makes sense. If the United States went to war with Palestine, uh,

Brian Atlasdo you side with >> like are do your loyalties lie with the United States or with Palestine?

Erica (Married)Yes. What is your like >> yes to what? >> Did you just not hear the question or you choosing not to acknowledge it? >> Leave the mic. Leave the mic at the at the table. >> Okay. So, listen. >> Listening.

Selena>> Oh my god. >> I told you that I can't like I I would side with whatever is morally correct. Okay. So what whatever reason there is >> it's morally neutral. How about that?

SelenaIt's morally neutral. >> Okay. So then I can't give you a side because war is never morally neutral, right? You don't go you're not going to start killing people just over something that is like neutral. >> Check this out. Check this out. What if

Brian Atlasuh you know there's a mind virus that infects all of humanity. Hold on. Hold on. And here's the context for the war. This is you need help. >> Here's the context for the war. What?

Brian AtlasHold on. Here's the context for the war. Hey, uh, let's say I'll put it in the context of like the United States, Mexico. Yo, what's up, Mexico? Hey, what's up? >> What's up, fool? >> What's up? [laughter] Hey, VTO, what's

Brian Atlasup? >> Hey, let's go to war. I say, >> and it's just like some dumb [ __ ] like that. Like, hey, you want to just go to war? >> Okay, that is stupid. That would never occur. >> Let's do it. Let's say that's >> that does not make sense. I know it's

Selenahypothetical. >> Okay, so so what I'm saying is I Bro, >> do you watch sports? >> No. >> Like are you sports person? Okay. >> Not at all. [laughter] >> Uh

Brian Atlas>> um Okay. >> Like which team do you prefer? >> Oh boy. Do you prefer team >> war is not like a team. [laughter] It's not like playing a game. Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Wait. But but so you won't engage. No. No. You had your chance. So to you you said you you're a US citizen, right? >> Okay. Okay. Are you a citizen of Mexico or No,

Brian Atlas>> I'm going to be >> going to be. Okay. Isn't it crazy that America allows people to be citizens of the country where if >> allows I was [snorts] is my birth

Brian Atlasdestiny, >> right? It allows you um allows people to be citizens of the country that but if it came to a war

Brian Atlaswith their like uh like historic historical familial uh you know the the land of their parents or whatever, they would quicker side with a country

Natalie/Morenathey're not citizens of. That's crazy. >> I pick Mexico and Palestine every time. Wait, even you'd pick Palestine? >> No,

Brian Atlas>> you're not even like you don't have a tie to pal. Okay, that's >> Palestine, >> bro. This is cra [laughter] >> chat chat chat. Do you see patriotic pride? >> Do you see how [ __ ] crazy it is?

Natalie/Morena>> It's already happening. What are you talking about? It's already happening. You guys are already going after us. Even if I am United States, just because I have brown. >> I'm a dual citizen of

Brian Atlasthe United States and France. >> However, and by the way, I was born in France. However, I've lived >> You're an immigrant. >> I'm not an immigrant. I'm a citizen. >> Born in France.

Selena>> Yeah, but I'm a citizen of the United States because my immigrant >> I'm not a [ __ ] immigrant. [laughter] >> An immigrant and a >> Wait, you're an immigrant? >> No, because I >> So, you're literally an immigrant. So,

Selenaokay. So, you're getting deported to France? >> You're so No. So they're literally IC is going to raid. >> You think you have a gotcha, but it's completely not a >> gotcha. But like IC could rage you and take you to France. >> No, it couldn't because

Brian Atlasthis is not okay. >> You're actually ridiculous. So >> this is like kind of scary. >> Do you know how citizenship works? So my mom is an American citizen. If a American citizen woman gives birth

Brian Atlasoverseas that bestows American immediately bes Well, I think you have to do paperwork or whatever. >> Of course. I was ai American citizen uh since the time I was a young child. I wasn't an immigrant. Were

Brian Atlas>> your dad was your dad's friend? >> My Yes. My dad is friend. >> So you had to physically >> Yeah. And he came here legally. He went through he went through the process of

Brian Atlasbecoming a citizen of this country. Legally a long time. And the reason it took so long is because the immigration system is backed up with a bunch of legal [ __ ] So anyways, back to my

Brian Atlaspoint. Even though I was born in a foreign nation, even though I have dual citizenship, I've lived the majority of my life in the United States. >> You've never lived in >> I have >> She was born there. >> But no, but have you like Did you ever

Brian Atlaslive there? >> I moved here when I was five. So I've never gone back. >> What? >> You've never gone back? >> I've gone back. Yeah, I've gone back. >> He was raised and born in France. I don't know why you is that like an own

SelenaOh my god, you seem really anti-immigrant at this point. So anyways, [laughter] >> are we defending immigrants? There's a big difference between legal and illegal immigrant immigrants. [clears throat] >> It's this isn't even necessarily a

Brian Atlasconversation about immigration. It's a conversation. So, as I was about to finish my point, despite me having dual citizenship, despite me having been born in another country and having lived there for the first like 5 years of my

Brian Atlaslife, I've lived the majority of my life [snorts] in the United States, I consider myself an American first and my loyalties, if we were to go to war with France, even though I have dual citizenship, even though I have like

Brian Atlasfamilial history in France, even though I live, you know, I was born there, live live there for a period of time, my loyalties are undeniable. ably to the United States undeniably. >> Okay, King.

Brian Atlas>> But it's interesting where with some people, even though in your case you were born here, you're an American citizen. You're not a Mexican citizen. >> Your loyalties lie with Mexico. >> How can an God? [sighs]

Brian Atlas>> Yes, it does. >> How, bro? America. Holy [ __ ] It's kind of cucked. It's like actually like this. >> It's kind of cucked, bro. Like imagine

Brian AtlasIt's so cucked, bro. It's so cucked. American citizens hate America. What the [ __ ] bro? >> America is a continent. I don't hate America. >> America's Hold on. America. No, >> it's a continent.

Brian Atlas>> America can be used interchangeably with the United States of America. >> The country is a continent. America. >> Well, there's North America and South America. >> Yeah. So, I love America. >> Okay. Congrats. That doesn't make any

Brian Atlassense, but okay. >> She got me. She thinks she got me there with the Oh, will you be okay? >> Yeah. I'm a Native American. Oh my god, dude. Sorry, sorry, so sorry. Holy [ __ ] >> I am Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

SelenaWhat can't you get to do? >> You You met her at a very Cherokee princess time in her life. [laughter] >> Always been a 10 out of 10 comment and not Cherokee. >> So, I'm like I'd kind of like to know

Selenamore about like your relationship status. Like, do have you ever been in a relationship? >> I've had multiple long-term relationships. >> Oh. Oh, >> yeah. What about the girl who checked your phone?

Brian Atlas>> Oh, you saw her. I dated her for a while. Quite a while. I've had like two year, one year. I've had long-term relationship. >> So, have you ever cheated in a relationship? >> No. >> Never. >> You know what? >> Nope.

Selena>> And most of the relationships h Have you initiated the breakup or have they? >> Are you just curious? I feel like the [laughter] way you ask questions is like,

Brian Atlas>> okay. Um, >> what? I've I've ended some I've ended some relationships and uh I've been broken up with. >> And do you feel like that frames your ideology on dating?

Selena>> Uh the breakups or >> Yeah. Like like your experiences. Do you feel that contributes to like how you perceive women and how you perceive dating? >> Uh >> I feel like he's the only one who hasn't

Brian Atlasdone that. I think most people from their own dating experiences would draw from their experiences and interpretations as it relates to how you

Brian Atlasview dating or how you view the opposite sex. Almost all of the people I've had long-term relationships with. Um, you know, we ultimately ended up breaking

Brian Atlasup, but with the exception of like one in terms of my long-term relationships, I have very positive things to say about

Brian Atlasmy exes. There was one girl where it was a little uh nothing crazy, not like but it was a little bit toxic one but of the

Brian Atlasmajor the majority of my long-term relationships they were great women. um it didn't work out as I think things can not work out and you know there's not

Brian Atlassomebody's at fault or you know somebody was ab abusive or somebody um I think sometimes it's a mismatch and nobody's did something wrong just so uh

Brian Atlas>> do you think your job has anything to affect your relationship like the fact that you talk to all kinds of women all day >> uh I suppose some women might be like wow he's hanging out with a bunch of women Maybe. >> Do you think that's a problem in a relationship?

Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> Um I think some women can have an issue with it. Like >> what about you? >> Oh, do I have I don't I don't think me personally I don't think it's an issue. >> But um

Erica (Married)>> side eye >> I mean look it's a conversation podcast. >> Has it ever affected anybody? But why is it only women? There's no flirting happening. That's a double thing. It's not inflating anybody's ego.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Sure. I think probably girls I've I've dated have maybe been like >> had some issues with like jealousy or like Yeah, sure. >> Would you ever stop for the right one if it was an issue? >> For the right woman or the perfect

Brian Atlaswoman? >> Ooh, the right woman. There's no such thing as perfect. >> Well, when I think the would I stop for the right woman? Is the right woman a billionaire? >> Then yes, I'll do a lot of [ __ ]

Brian Atlas>> So, it's money >> for a billionaire woman. Would you be a good house husband for a billionaire wife? >> I'll be a stay-at-home dad. >> Hell yeah. [laughter] Hell yeah. >> The only gonna pump out so many kids. And I'm gonna [ __ ] just kick it with

Brian Atlasthe kids. I'm kick it with the kids. [laughter] >> We're going to go to the beach. I'm going to go to the beach with my kids and never have to work. And like I have like a masseuse and a maid and a and [laughter] a

Seline>> men would love to have our jobs. That's a billionaire lifestyle. Like [laughter] >> [ __ ] Yeah. You're not getting that from the from the woman who's working at Walmart. >> Oh, [laughter] definitely not.

Brian Atlas>> So, otherwise you wouldn't. >> So, I mean, you ask me like or the woman is so obscenely wealthy that like neither of us has to work. [sighs]

Brian AtlasUh, yeah, sure. I'd give up my job. Whatever. >> So, if there's any [ __ ] No, I wouldn't date a feminist, though. [laughter] >> Or well, hold on. Let me think about this.

Brian Atlas>> Never say never. maybe a really really >> she would have to we would have to align with like our core guiding principles and beliefs and morals or whatever. There would have to be alignment there. Um

Lauren (Buddhist)>> but you see no issue with your job and then like having a separate relation like you don't see any issue cuz it's totally professional. I mean like just >> it's not professional >> the environ well the environment that you're surrounding yourself.

Brian AtlasWait, so what? >> You're not conflicted. Like you wouldn't expect like a woman to have an issue with it. All the girls you talk to, >> he said some women might have an issue with it. >> Some some women might have an issue with

Brian Atlasit, but >> but you don't have an issue with it. >> Uh, no, I don't I don't have an issue with >> like a woman if she Look, if a woman wants to date me,

Erica (Married)>> then she has to accept that. >> She's going to have to accept that. I mean, but she would know going in. >> Yeah. what the deal is. >> You said you would do a lot for a billionaire woman. Would you um would you submit to a billionaire woman

Brian Atlasphysically and emotionally? >> Oh, [laughter] >> I thought it was a fun question. Sorry. >> Not if it was in the not if it was like within the purview of like a

Brian Atlasdegradation. >> Okay. >> Thing. >> Yeah. You're not into what you're not into. >> When you say submission though, so like she's the boss. >> Yeah. Like she wears the pants. I think that would

Brian Atlas>> But is she bossy? >> I think she has more personality. >> I think it would be hard like so I I have like a strong inclination towards like

Brian Atlas>> wanting to be a leader in my relationship. So we'd probably butt heads. >> Mhm. >> Uh but if if she's just a billionaire and

Erica (Married)she's like, "Look, >> um I'm a [ __ ] billionaire, Brian. You don't have to work. Who's not taking the [ __ ] deal? >> No. And I think that's the kind of the thing I like about like the gender roles and being able to swap them like that

Brian Atlasbecause it really does work out as long as you're evenly contributing the way that you should be to the relationship. Doesn't matter really, you know? >> I mean, my ideal though in that situation like she could be the bread winner or whatever.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, but I would still want to have a leadership role in the relationship. >> Now, some things can be negotiated like >> [sighs and gasps] >> I my thinking here is and some guys in

Brian Atlasthe chat might be like that's an L. That's an L, Brian. No, you should continue to be a like a uh [ __ ] slaving away with work so you can maintain like full

Brian Atlasuh I don't not dominance, but you can maintain full autonomy. I don't know if that I want to think of the appropriate framing. Some guys wouldn't do the trade.

Brian AtlasBasically, they'd be like, "No, I'm going to continue breaking my body for like 30 years so I can like have a bit of an edge up in my relationship." Okay, there are some like prag pragmatically speaking,

Brian Atlas>> there are some things that I would consider negotiable if she's a [ __ ] billionaire, but >> I'm not going to falter on my values. Like, she can't be a piece of [ __ ]

Brian AtlasLike, I'm not going to date a woman. Like even if she's a ma like a super rich but she's a terrible person like no I don't care then I don't want to be in a relationship with you. Maybe I'll marry you for five years and then get the alimony but just kidding.

Brian Atlas>> What if she's a feminist? >> What if she's a feminist? >> Is she a billionaire >> and she's really rich. >> How radical of a if she's like >> definitely getting that alimony. >> She's like [laughter] >> she's pink pill. >> Whatever. I'll just argue with her all

Brian Atlasthe time and she can pay for all my [ __ ] But [laughter] uh I don't know. Some people some people are going to disagree, but like think about the guys in the chat who work like backbreaking jobs.

Brian Atlas>> Are you willing to compromise on a few small things to never have to work again? Like my perspective, what absolutely what if you're a man and I'm not saying like date somebody who like

Brian Atlasis a good fit for you. I'm not saying you have to this billionaire person baked into this hypothetical. she's a terrible person and she's going to like be abusive or she's going to like, you know, I'm I'm assuming she's also like a

Brian Atlasgood person and we get along and all this sort of stuff. But in terms of the relationship dynamic, are there certain things I'd be willing to like bend on in terms of like idealistic

Brian Atlasrelationship dynamic? Yeah. Because I think, okay, I have to uh let's say like part of this is like I have to be uh well, if she's a

Brian Atlasbillionaire, she doesn't have to like work really, right? >> Got the the peasants. >> How about this? The expectation if she's a billionaire, the expectation is like

Brian Atlasneither of us work and we equally are responsible for like the ch raising the children. >> I take that trade instantly. And that's if her billionaire butt didn't go get a nanny. >> I'll take the trade. I don't know. I

Brian Atlastake the trade instantly. >> I think to myself, [ __ ] you're gonna free me up. Free up the next 20, 30 years of my life to not have to work. >> Sign me up. Okay, let me move off of that, though. But

Brian Atlas>> you could use some of your house husband allowance to pay a housekeeper. [laughter] >> Oh, yeah. [ __ ] If she's a billionaire, everything's taken care of. So, I don't know. Actually, really quick on this topic. [clears throat]

Brian Atlas>> I know some of you have like really strong career ambitions, whatever. I think you want to be a lawyer, zoologology or something, right? >> Animal conservation >> for the perfect man. And an entailment

Brian Atlashere would be he's like super wealthy, so you wouldn't like financially you wouldn't have to work. I get that when it comes to careers sometimes people like it's not just about the money. I

Brian Atlasget that. For the perfect man who could be super wealthy. >> Do you completely give up your educational and career ambitions? >> Perfect. >> No. >> Nope. Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> Yes.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Okay. >> No. >> Into the mic. >> No. >> No. >> Okay. Essie.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. Yes. Yes. [ __ ] yeah. [snorts] >> No. Okay. Um, so it's just no, I think. And no. Interesting. >> Well, that [snorts] doesn't include

Brian Atlashobbies, right? >> The music thing doesn't take off, though. >> Well, I work in cannabis, too. [laughter] >> So, you like Can I ask you a question?

Brian AtlasIn terms of like men you've dated, have any of them even been anywhere near or the men that are even out there in the dating pool, have any of them even been near perfect?

Brian Atlas>> Near perfect. >> Not near, right? Not near, right? Most >> this probably goes both ways. Like we are going to have to settle on some things that we want. like we're probably not going to get at like a 10 out of 10

Brian Atlasin looks and their personality is 10 out of and their 10 out of 10 uh you know humor or whatever all these all the traits that you care about. >> There are some things that are not going to be maximized, right? >> I guess so. So that's where love comes in, right? Like well I feel like there's

Erica (Married)also this like >> even with love Oh, go ahead. >> I feel like there's also this expectation to have like everything in common with your partner and then having similarities and having things in common are totally different. Like you can have commonalities without doing everything

Brian Atlasthat each other does. the same. >> So, you want to be, by the way, your billionaire husband or whatever could like literally give you a pot farm on your house. So, you're in the cannabis industry. Like, what do you do? >> Yeah. But if he's an [ __ ] I

Brian Atlas>> No, but that's what I saying. You don't have to compromise your moral >> values, man. So, this means like perfect. The only tradeoff that you have to make is you can't do career.

Grace (Zoology)>> Can't do nothing. >> Well, you can you can >> you can still make music. You just like make money off make money off of it. You can't. >> No, but you're getting money. So, it's like the same thing. >> You couldn't. >> No, cuz then his money is >> anything a man can gives you, he can

Brian Atlastake away. I want my >> Well, the Hold on. But when we're talking perfect here, an extension of this would be >> Oh, you're not going to take it. >> No, he's with you forever. >> Yeah. >> Like he's not going to dump you. He's not going to He's perfectly loyal.

Brian Atlas>> Perfectly loyal. >> Uh never leaves you. Treats you amazingly. So like think about you've you'll never have a fight with this person ever. No com no drama, no

Brian Atlasconflict. Maybe some chicks like that. I don't know. >> No, no rainbow scenario. >> Sometimes a fight every once in a while just for fun. >> Do the trade >> if it's perfect like that.

Natalie/Morena>> You know, I said perfect man who's also super rich. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Hell yeah. >> There's no per but that doesn't exist. >> Right. It doesn't exist. Again,

Selena>> it doesn't exist. >> So, and I still got to work. >> Perfect man. >> I mean, I think like a lot of what I do, I do it because I'm passionate about it, not because of like the money.

Selena>> You could still follow your passions >> without having I'm just saying like I don't think a perfect man would have me stop my career and like what I'm passionate about. >> Well, that's the trade-off, right? So,

Selenahe's perfect. But this >> you birth him into creation by giving away your career. I mean, I just think like >> Yeah. >> stuff that I do specifically like career-wise, I'm just very passionate

Brian Atlasabout it. So, I wouldn't want to give that up. >> You want to be an attorney, right? >> Yeah. >> Really high rates of alcoholism, super stressful job. Public defender or crim?

Brian Atlas>> Criminal defense. >> Criminal defense. I mean, they can make good money, but like it's not crazy, you know? >> Billion dollars. That's a lot of money. >> Yeah. Never have to work a day in your

Brian Atlaslife. You can travel wherever you want to go, eat whatever you want, have like a staff of people taking care of everything. >> Don't do the trade. >> I don't think like money is everything.

SelenaI think there's >> that pretty good though. >> It is. It is nice. I can get definitely give you that. I think it's it would be

Selenalike very nice. But I think like with >> law and also like the work stuff I do with like influencing like I genuinely enjoy doing it. I think I'm like

Erica (Married)passionate about it. Like I would >> even if like doing Tik Tok stuff didn't make me any money, I'd probably still do it cuz you could do that staying with your billionaire husband because that's not a career. It's just, you know, a

Selenasmall income. He's basically just saying, "You don't need that money. I got it." >> For the sake of the hypothetical, she has to give it up. >> Mhm. >> She can't do social media. >> Okay. Okay. >> Like that is something that I genuinely

Brian Atlasam passionate about and like excites me. >> But you know what's better than passion? Never having to worry about money your entire life. Having every anything you want, you can buy it. Anything you need,

Selenayou can have it. You can financially support the charitable causes that you >> I know. I think money isn't what wakes me up in the morning. Like my passion for life and certain things is what gets me up. >> Have you been to Hawaii? >> No.

Selena>> I love it there. >> I know. But >> you can be very passionate about >> I agree. But I think you >> living in Hawaii. You could live in Hawaii. You can buy an island or maybe >> I know. But I I know many people that have like access to all the money that they want and they're still not happy. I

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Brian Atlaseveryone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10. It is for sure. Uh, can't pick seven. Looks scale of 1 to 10, can't pick seven. Starting with you. >> Why can't pick seven? >> It's six or eight

Selena>> because it's like the most average number that women pick. Got to pick a side. >> Um, quick quick quick. >> I don't like this rating thing. Next person. >> We should rate each other. >> I [laughter] hate R. I don't I think

Selenait's like superficial. I think it's like derogatory to rate women. >> Well, you can rate men. Do you >> you can rate >> I think rating people in general is derogatory and reduces them to simply their appearance.

Selena>> Uh would you date a guy who's shorter than you? [clears throat] >> I date a guy that's probably the same height as me. >> Would you date a guy who's shorter than you? >> Like how short are we talking? >> How tall are you?

Selena>> 5'6. >> 5'4. >> Honestly, I probably would. I've dated really short guys. Is it your preference to date somebody taller than them? >> Yeah, I would prefer someone who's

Erica (Married)taller. >> So, there is there is an idea that somebody can check off all your preferences and technically be this like quote 10 out of 10 guy.

Selena>> I think yes, but but it's I mean there have been very very attractive men who I'm not interested in because of their personality. I don't think we can reduce everything down to oh, she's at this number, she's a this number, she's at

Brian Atlasthat number. What if you had to though? Would like would you be able to say what you think you are?

Selena>> Reduce myself to a number. [music] >> Gun to your head. >> I don't think it's possible to reduce myself to a number. >> I guess I would just Do you think you're a 10 [snorts and gasps] >> in terms of conventional beauty

Selenastandards? Like western beauty standards and what the West deems attractive? Do you want to just answer the question? >> I think as a punishment for not answering the question, we should all be

Brian Atlasable to rate somebody. [laughter] >> Here, I'll give you a That's a yellow card. >> Yellow card for Selena. >> Flagged. >> All right. Uh, >> yellow card. >> That's a yellow card for Selena. >> It's like sports. >> No, I I know what a yellow card. I play

Selinesoccer right now. >> It's a fiveminute mute. Um. >> Oh. >> Okay. Your answer. >> Um, I would say objectively a six with everything on. Maybe an eight. >> So, six without like makeup. >> Without Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> 10. I love myself. >> 10. Okay. What about you? >> 10. >> 10. Okay. >> Eight. >> Eight. >> Six. Slightly above average. Five. >> Okay. What about you? >> Going to say six. >> I give myself a five. Uh, okay. So, we have 10 and 10. What, Essie? What did you say?

Brian Atlas>> Eight. >> Eight. Okay. Uh, so I'd like to talk to the two most beautiful women at the table at this moment. Um, can you tell me a guy who you think is a 10,

Natalie/Morena>> like looks wise? >> Yes. >> Cuz it's like, yeah. And then the attitude comes in. >> Yes. >> Oh my god. He's super sexy. [laughter] >> Oh my. You know Roman Reigns? You watch anyone? Pro wrestler. The pro wrestler.

Natalie/MorenaYeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. >> He's sexy. Okay. And then tell me a girl who you think is a 10.

Brian AtlasOh, me. >> Well, besides [laughter] besides you, >> um >> like a famous like >> Salahek. >> Salahek. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, uh Roman Reigns, that's your

Brian Atlasleague in terms of dating. And then Sal Mahayek, that's your like looks equivalent. >> Okay. >> Uh and then name a girl. Name a guy. >> Who's a 10? >> I don't know. Um, maybe like Chad

Brian AtlasMichael Murray. >> Pull that up. >> When he's younger. >> Chad Michael Story. >> Young Chad Michael Murray. And then for a girl, Megan Fox. [snorts]

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, sure. Megan Fox is a 10. >> Megan Fox is a 10. Okay. Um, let's get the the thing pulled up here when you get a chance. >> Okay. >> Young. [laughter] >> That's who we're talking about.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Yeah. That's who she's talking about. Okay. So just and so you would say like that would be like a good looks match for you like you cuz you're a 10. Your looks match with young Chad Michael

Brian AtlasMurray. That's your league. >> I don't know. It comes down to more than like looks that where I'm looking. >> Just looks though. Just on the looks front. I get that he's like I guess a famous actor or whatever. You can't

Brian Atlasconsider that. Uh just on the looks basis. >> Yeah. I don't know. There's other people that I think are tens too >> like other guys. Yeah. >> No, but are you in like the league of the dude? >> Yeah. I'm not going to say that I'm

Grace (Zoology)anything less than a 10. That'd be negative selft talk, which would be not. >> Honestly, y'all look good together. >> Y'all would look good together. >> I don't think so. Well, he's like 50 now. So, >> young young. [laughter]

Brian Atlas>> Uh, okay. Um, and then Megan Fox, would you say that uh maybe young Megan Fox or whatever, would you say that you are just as good-looking as me? I know you guys look different, but are you just as

Grace (Zoology)good-looking as Megan Fox? >> Sure. Sure. I mean, mindset is everything. So, if I tell myself that I'm like beautiful on a 10, then like I'm going to act that way and I'm going to live that way and like whatever you choose to believe

Brian Atlas>> treat you that way. >> It doesn't matter to me. >> Uh, okay. So, um, Salahek.

Brian AtlasSo, you are [laughter] What the [ __ ] was that? Uh, so you are just as good-looking as Sal Mahayak. >> I think she has the boobs. Her boobs. Well, how about just facial with face?

Brian AtlasJust face. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Um Okay. All right. Um wait, rate me. I gave myself a five, by the way.

Brian Atlas>> You don't have to use that. Of course, you can go lower or higher. I mean, probably. >> I'll give you a four. >> Four. Okay. What do you rate me? >> I don't want to rate you. I don't want to rate other people. >> That's fine. You don't have to. Uh, so,

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