Brian CONFRONTS Woke Misandrist College Girl?! HEATED DEBATE! Based Girl RETURNS! | Dating Talk #269
Date: 2025-11-17
Duration: 8h 20m
Guests
Identified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_03Seline(guest)
SPEAKER_04Lauren (Buddhist)(guest)
SPEAKER_06Selena(guest)
SPEAKER_09Natalie/Morena(guest)
SPEAKER_10Grace (Zoology)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Essie(guest)
SPEAKER_12Samra(guest)
SPEAKER_13Erica (Married)(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:10
IntroAll 8 guests introduce themselves
00:44:44
ControversySelena wants red pill men 'eradicated'
00:51:11
Key MomentBrian presents selective service as systemic male oppression. 40-min debate.
01:37:06
QuoteSelena: 'I think men suck. 60-70% of men suck.'
04:56:42
ControversyGrace prefers world without men. Selena cannot say no to snapping men away.
06:46:11
Key MomentLauren: Buddhist nun, FBI investigated for Jan 6
07:19:00
ControversySelena: 'white people invented racism'
08:14:14
OtherSelena leaves. Brian calls her most argumentative guest ever.
Topics Discussed
00:00:10
Guest Introductions
8 guests including Selena (Georgetown/TikTok), Lauren (Buddhist nun/Jan 6).
00:44:44
Red Pill Eradication
Selena wants red pill men 'eradicated.' Brian challenges.
00:51:11
Selective Service Debate
40-minute debate on draft as male systemic oppression.
01:37:06
65% of Men Suck
Selena: 65% of men suck. Brian: that's sexist.
01:55:37
Stolen Land / Immigration
Selena: 'no one is illegal on stolen land.' Native American debate.
04:56:42
Snap All Men Away
Grace and Selena cannot say no to removing all men. Brian shocked.
05:19:00
Colombia / Palestine Allegiance
Natalie sides with Mexico/Palestine. Selena refuses to answer.
06:46:11
Lauren Jan 6
FBI investigated but did not arrest Lauren for Jan 6 attendance.
07:22:33
Body Count
Lauren: 5M/2W. Natalie: 100+. Essie: 12-13.
07:51:14
Bow Video
Brian shows ex bowing video. Selena uses it as grounds to leave.
Transcript
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01:57:03
Selena>> So who stole it from another tribe? >> The Mayas. There were the Mayas. There were the Incas. Have you heard of them? >> That was in like Mexico. And >> no, it was it was part of it was also part of North America as well. >> Apache. >> Wait.
01:57:15
Selena>> Apache. >> The Incas were in North like in the United States. I don't I'm not >> The Mayans had part of what is now I think Texas. >> Well, there were the Mayans and the
01:57:27
SelenaAztecs which was predominantly I believe in Mexico. >> Yeah. there was still part of Texas. But anyways, okay, beside that's beside the point. There were many tribes >> and the Mayans and Aztecs conquered all kinds of different tribes.
01:57:39
Brian Atlas>> Oh my goodness gracious. >> Am I wrong? Human sacrifice. >> So, oh lord. >> You do realize land most of the these lands were conquered from one tribe to
01:57:50
Brian Atlasthe next to the next. Do you think like Native Americans were a peaceable people before the appearance of the white man in North America? Yes, we were.
01:58:00
Brian Atlas>> Oh, you're Native American. >> You just to be clear, hold on. The the Chipawa, all these Hold on. You think the the the Apache, all these tribes,
01:58:12
Brian Atlasyou think they were a peaceable people before the before the appearance of the white man in the United or well, I guess it wasn't the United States, in the Americas. >> Yep. And they love nature. They don't exploit land.
01:58:25
Brian Atlas>> They're not Blackfoot Indians cannibals. >> [laughter] >> I can't for what if you can't even acknowledge that like the history of humanity regardless of uh your background was like pretty brutal and like
01:58:38
Selena>> okay and and and the white man's background wasn't brutal either like [laughter] wasn't like the most bloody in the world imperialist >> that claim but this idea this idea that
01:58:49
Brian Atlas>> No American tribes were leaving living peaceibly amongst each other there were no you weren't there you can't Tell me as an indigenous person. >> Are you an expert in Native American history? And you're not an indigenous
01:59:03
Natalie/Morenaperson. Yes. >> How would that make you an expert in Native American history? >> How does that make you has any word to say? >> Because I have looked into this a little bit. >> You're an expert. You as a white you as a white man are an expert in Native American history. Could it be possible
01:59:15
Brian Atlasthat a white person has more understanding of Native Americans from books to books to books or from mouth to mouth to mouth? >> Exactly. So, just to be clear, are you going to be perpetuating misinformation? Is it actually your position that all
01:59:27
Natalie/MorenaNative American tribes in the Americas were a peaceable people? Is that your position? >> We are. We were living our beautiful lives and then y'all came over here and our [ __ ]
01:59:38
Natalie/Morena>> Be intellectually honest. >> This is my history. This is my history. We we are still here. We are still being peaceful. We're still here. You know that, right? We're still here. We're still being peaceful.
01:59:50
Brian Atlas>> I can have a conversation with somebody who's willing to engage logically. But if you're just not willing to at least you do realize that there are Native American tribes who document, not white
02:00:01
Brian Atlaspeople, Native American tribes who documented either their barbarism or the barbarism of other tribes. >> What about the barbarism of the white man? >> Yeah, definitely happened. So, so, so what I what I'm saying
02:00:14
Brian Atlas>> Hold on. But first, I need to address this misinformation here. You're going to in order to be intellectually honest in this conversation, you are going to have to acknowledge >> we're still peaceful people. We're still here.
02:00:25
Brian Atlas>> Wait, I'm talking historically. I'm talking the villages were were making growing our corn, growing our food. I don't think there was rampant there was a rampant amount of conflict of course
02:00:36
Brian Atlasinter uh intri there was there was massive amounts of conflicts between the different tribes >> different tribes yes within our own tribes there's leadership >> okay nice go nice goalpost shift okay
02:00:50
Selena[snorts] >> okay I'm ready >> so what I'm going to say >> in this point here right so it is stolen land >> conquered the Native Americans
02:01:05
Brian AtlasSettler colonialism. Is it not settler colonialism? >> Which tribe? >> Apache. >> Where? Which part? Which part of the United people? >> Yeah. But in California, >> which tribe did the Apache take their
02:01:19
Brian Atlasland from? >> Okay. So, can I can I start? >> Can I continue my argument here? I don't think you saying which tribe does it mean does it make less valid? No, it doesn't. It points to the fact for much
02:01:30
Brian Atlasof human history conquest was the rule. I think con we shouldn't be going to war. We shouldn't have conquest. But historically that was >> so can I continue now? >> And by the way look you might not like
02:01:42
Brian Atlasit but historically the precedent is set. Conquest was a valid means of yes >> getting can I Okay. So can I continue?
02:01:52
SelenaWhat I'm trying to say is there is a difference between conquest and being violent and point blank
02:02:03
Selenabarbaric. Right? So when you're coming into a land and you're killing all the people that were there so you can settle there and create what is the United States of America,
02:02:14
Brian Atlas>> that is barbaric. >> How did we get to this topic? Uh the own stolen. >> I'm not even I'm not even done here. No, but how did we get on to the stolen land? >> I I It doesn't matter how we got on here. I'm trying to make a point. >> Oh, because we're talking about
02:02:27
Selenaimmigration. >> Yes. So, right. So, I'm saying no one is illegal on stolen land. So, say there's been some Okay, but but that's that's that's one facet of it, right? But I'm going to I'm going to
02:02:39
Selena>> come to more present day. >> Okay. say someone because of the violence of the United States >> and a lot of western violence that's been placed on if we're going to talk
02:02:52
Selenaabout Mexico, we'll talk about Mexico, okay? And and what capitalism has done to their economy and the extraction and whatever. Someone decides, you know what, I'm going to hop the border and I'm I'm going to come to I'm I'm going to come to America.
02:03:04
Selena>> Mhm. >> They come here, they're paying taxes, they're doing all that. They're just like illegals. Okay, they've been here for 20 years. They had kids here. Suddenly, bam, one day
02:03:16
Selenathey're at work. They're hardworking. And some random wearing a mask and glasses doesn't want to be identified, comes, steals them, and deports them back to
02:03:28
SelenaMexico. And maybe maybe they maybe their parents came here when they were super young and had them when they were like two in Mexico, and now they're here. They've they've never even grew up in Mexico. That's why you do this though [clears throat] for
02:03:41
Brian Atlas>> because I told you no one's illegal on stolen land. >> So no crimes. I'm a bit confused. There's no So if I just want to barge into your house, are you just going to let me kick it on your couch? >> That's That's
02:03:54
Selena>> You stole the land. >> No, no, no, queen. That's not even the case. >> So do you don't believe in borders? >> Honestly, borders are man-made. >> Yep. >> Wait, if Hold on. If borders are
02:04:06
Brian Atlasman-made, then what land was stolen? >> The tongue the land of the Tonga people of Los Angeles. >> But there but hold on there sto there's there's is it stolen land >> or is it not if there's no borders? What are the borders?
02:04:20
Brian Atlas>> Could you put it up? >> I'm borders of man-made and you stole it. >> Wait, but hold on. How can you steal something? I can explain it to you. >> How can we steal something that doesn't exist? >> A border. [snorts] >> You're saying what are the Native
02:04:32
Brian AtlasAmerican borders of their land? But hold on. There are no borders. Your argument defeats itself. >> Native lands, there's not an actual border. >> You can't be illegal.
02:04:43
Natalie/Morena>> There isn't. The the Tonga people, the the M, there wasn't no exact border. >> So, >> okay. So, this river this river from this river to this uh
02:04:56
Brian Atlas>> they didn't have border. Borders are man-made, >> by the way. It is actually a crime. It's called improper entry. It's 8 USC 1325. It's a crime. >> Yeah, I know. But again, no one is stolen on illegal land.
02:05:08
Natalie/Morena>> But what about what about everyone for so long? The Mexicans that were here in Los Angeles that were taken who were born here and taken during the Brero program,
02:05:20
Natalie/Morena>> the the what? >> The Brero program is when they told us to come over here and work and then they [ __ ] took us and then they took even people who already were here. We were born here forever. I mean, if you're >> even the other day, a Native American
02:05:33
Brian Atlaswas taken by ICE. Where the [ __ ] are you going to take her? >> Yeah, sometimes this is her land. >> Yeah, sometimes I guess people can be improperly detained or whatever. If you're a citizen of the United States, you're not getting uh deported.
02:05:44
Brian Atlas>> They have. >> You can maybe point to an un like I don't know. I would need a fact check on this. If you're a United States citizen, you're not being deported. And if you did, you're improperly deported and you would be allowed to get
02:05:58
Natalie/Morena>> I'm sure it happens every once in a while. Once in a while, especially now the daily. >> In any case though, uh >> like just even having brown skin is get taken and kidnapped.
02:06:09
Seline>> That's ridiculous. That's >> it's a Native American literally got taken by her. >> Stop talking over each other. Stop it. Stop. So,
02:06:19
Brian Atlas>> so even if these errors, law enforcement errors do happen and they are wrong, I'm going to grant it. Uh, what if what of the 99% of the time where they are act
02:06:30
Brian Atlasactually deporting somebody who did enter the country illegally and who are not American citizens? >> And do you believe in due process? >> Do I uh do I believe in due pro? Yeah, sure. >> And they're not getting that.
02:06:42
Natalie/Morena>> Are they afforded due process? Are they afforded due process? me as a as a as a American I don't get due process and they take me but they >> have you been taken do you have an anecdotal experience where you were
02:06:54
Brian Atlas>> there's many many many many many many stories that of these people >> okay then that's wrong great should should demonstraably uh people who are here demonstrably illegally been deported yes or no
02:07:07
Brian Atlas>> have they been deported >> we can agree that it's wrong that American citizens uh are incorrectly detained or even incorrectly deported 100% % wrong, shouldn't happen. Uh maybe they should even be compensated. Cool.
02:07:19
Brian AtlasWe can agree on that. Should people who are clearly here illegally, should they be deported? >> Do they have due process? Should they have due process? >> I'm not familiar on what extent you like. >> Should they have representation in
02:07:31
Natalie/Morenacourt? >> To a I think if you if >> if they have work permits and they still get deported. Yes. You you're not supposed to be able to illegal. Yes, you have a visa. It's a work visa. Everyone
02:07:44
Brian Atlasdoes it. They go to Europe. They go You can have a work all over the place. You can have a work. >> Yeah. But do you think Oh my god. What percentage of the people being deported
02:07:54
Samrahave a valid work visa? >> Most of the time they've expired and they're process of doing it. But that >> I can argue with a little bit. I can't
02:08:04
Samra>> hereally [laughter] use the law. They're here illegally because they have not they don't have a valid up >> and do you believe the way that is
02:08:14
SPEAKER_00happening is so you can shut the [ __ ] share one up for 10 minutes. The faux confidence and vocal [ __ ] is actually making me want to turn off the stream. >> Mean
02:08:27
Brian Atlas>> all right here. Let me let a few chats through then we can revisit. Okay. They wanted to mute your mic for 10 minutes. Um keep an eye on that. Thank you for that Ogle. Appreciate it. Thank you uh for your
02:08:39
Brian Atlassort of that thing. [laughter] Uh also tiresome. Chair one is colossally uh that put her in a timeout. Always the most Hey guys, be nice. Come on. What the [ __ ] Uh Dunn and Krueger in
02:08:51
Brian Atlasintelligence and looks. >> Never will these women understand the sacrifice men have made for their rights. >> Yeah, freedom isn't free. >> Well put. Also tiresome. Thank you for
02:09:03
SPEAKER_00your message, man. Really appreciate that. Eddie Westside 29 donated $100. >> Tie-dye girl, I need you step up the savagery. >> Chair four, please quit while you're ahead. Nope.
02:09:14
Brian Atlas>> Chair one, me and the chat agree you need to shut up. Brian, please have Nick on one of your episodes. [laughter] >> Nick, my producer. Okay, we maybe we'll
02:09:26
SPEAKER_00do that. Uh, thank you. Yo, Teddy Westside legendary. I [ __ ] it up. Okay, thank donated $200. >> Chair one, I have this really fun game that I
02:09:38
SPEAKER_00>> You wasted your money for that. >> It's called the quiet game. You have to be quiet for 30 minutes, otherwise you have to give bricks and $20. >> What a >> Well, Ogle did do the the microphone
02:09:50
SPEAKER_00mute. So, >> what a waste of $200. [laughter] >> America fun donated $200. I don't want to add homonym, but chair 1's vocal fry is annoying AF.
02:10:04
SPEAKER_00I loved listening to you talk. I'm starting to feel bad. Actually, bro, >> I don't feel bad. This is like my Tik Tok comments. Don't worry. I used to [laughter] >> Oh boy. >> America donated $200.
02:10:16
SPEAKER_00>> Oh boy. Oh no. >> Anyone saying Native Americans were living in peace is willfully brain dead as a defense mechanism. >> So we're all just >> By the way, just to be clear, this isn't
02:10:28
Brian Atlasit's not an attack on Native Americans. It's just an acknowledgment of objective truth. A lot of these tribes, there were they were waring with each other. And I
02:10:40
Brian Atlasthink that that should >> So then everyone should war with us cuz >> No, that's not what I'm that's not what I'm arguing. But I I think it it it is
02:10:50
Brian Atlasworth pointing out that if we're talking about stolen land, were like the most recent tribe that you would argue possessed that land, did they steal it
02:11:00
Brian Atlasfrom somebody else? And so it gets very complicated as to like historical land ownership. Well, who who then do we return stolen land to? Because even
02:11:11
Brian Atlastoday you have different Native American tribes who they argue with each other. No, the Black Hills are mine. No, this is the this is the Chipawa. This is the
02:11:22
Brian AtlasApache. This is the Chumash. They have they contest who owns uh or who uh historically owned these lands. >> Yeah. Well, you can historically attest
02:11:34
Natalie/Morenathat we own them first. They were ours and we take care of them. That's honestly as a as a Native American indigenous person, all we were here to do is to take care of the land. >> We were here to take care of the land.
02:11:46
SPEAKER_00Make sure the land grows. Make sure mother earth is one with herself. >> Shut the [ __ ] up. >> Oh, he doubled. >> George donated $500 so you can shut the f up. [laughter] >> Another shut the [ __ ] up for an
02:11:58
Erica (Married)additional 10 minutes for chair one. You are now being oppressed. >> He's oppressing George. >> This is what we were talking about. >> Um, >> Casey George, you are awesome. Thank you for being here, >> dude. Stop it. >> Pasty George got money. >> Thank you, Pacey George. Appreciate it.
02:12:12
Brian Atlas>> He got money. >> Oh, wait. Hold on. Um here, I'm going to pause that for a moment. We have a super chat here that I'm going to read. >> Uh hey, I got to wait. She's at She's away from the table. I apologize, guys.
02:12:24
Brian AtlasHere. Um we here. Why don't we do finish relationship status? Then I'll let the rest come in. Okay. Relationship. [laughter] >> Oh my god. I forgot. >> That was crazy. Relationship status. Uh complicated. Complicated. >> Uh okay. complicated.
02:12:37
Seline>> I can elaborate. >> Uh yeah, go ahead. >> Um so I am currently in a relationship. I It's not public because he did cheat on me. >> Oh,
02:12:48
Selinebut we are since uh working it out. >> Uh oh. Okay. Did you cheat on him? >> No. >> Okay. How long has it have you been seeing this guy? >> Uh we've been together we just celebrated our 2-year anniversary on
02:12:59
Brian AtlasNovember 11th. >> Two year. Okay. Longest relationship? >> Yes. >> Okay. Uh what about you? relationship status >> single. >> Uh, hold on one sec. Okay. How long you
02:13:11
Grace (Zoology)been single for? >> Um, I guess since like the beginning of my senior year of high school. So, >> two years. >> Two yearsish. >> Okay. Longest relationship. >> Uh, about
02:13:23
Brian Atlasa year and a half on and off, I want to say. >> Okay. It was 6 months on and off. >> No, like a year and a half. >> Oh, sorry. Sorry. I missed [snorts] the year part. Okay. One and a half. All
02:13:34
Grace (Zoology)right. Okay. Who broke up with who? >> Um, it was complicated. He was going to college and it was just like kind of mutual that we didn't want to continue it. >> All right. What about you?
02:13:48
Natalie/Morena>> Single. >> How long you've been single? >> For some time. I don't I don't claim these people's I have like situationships. >> Situationships. Okay. Um,
02:13:58
Brian Atlaslongest relationship. >> I don't claim them. I don't claim [laughter] them. Oh my. Um, okay. Uh,
02:14:08
Brian Atlaswhat's the longest time you don't claim somebody? >> I'm not claiming them. I'm not claiming them. I'm not claiming them. >> Well, okay. I get you're not claiming
02:14:18
Brian Atlasthem, but like the person that you don't claim, what was the period of time you don't claim? >> Being with them. >> Yeah. >> Like five months.
02:14:30
Brian Atlas>> That's your Okay. Okay. So, that's the longest anything you've had is 5 months. Okay. Um, do you currently have a roster? >> I do.
02:14:41
Natalie/Morena>> Okay. [laughter] Uh, and uh, how big is the roster? >> Five. >> Five guys. >> On and off. Like the restaurant. Some of them fall off, you know.
02:14:52
Brian Atlas>> Wait, so the roster is how big? >> It's on and off. It's on and off. >> Well, what's the biggest it's ever been in your entire life? >> Like five. >> Five. Okay. Um, and they're they're all guys, right?
02:15:04
Brian AtlasLike Okay. >> Um, and you're like kind of just having fun with all of them or >> I'm just seeing who >> treats me who treats me right, who treats me better.
02:15:14
Brian Atlas>> And how um what's the long of these like five or so guys? What's the longest that you've been seeing any one of them? >> Like a year?
02:15:26
Natalie/Morena>> No, like two years. >> That's like the longest one. Yeah. For like the situationship. >> Situationship. >> Yeah. Like he's on and off. On and off. Like we don't live in the same city. >> Has it ever been boyfriend, girlfriend?
02:15:37
Brian Atlas>> No. Situationships. >> Okay. And um have you ever said I love you to him? >> I mean, I say it all the time. I say it to everyone though.
02:15:48
Natalie/Morena>> No, like I love you in that way. >> I think so. I mean, I say it does. We're always like, I love you.
02:16:00
Brian AtlasSo wait, you don't like do you not mean it in that way? >> Yeah. >> You know, like how you might say you say to like a girlfriend >> like that >> like one of your female friends. I mean by that
02:16:10
Brian Atlas>> we just keep it. >> Okay. And but uh is he seeing other girls? >> I think so. I'm seeing other people. He's seeing other people. >> Okay. So you're hooking up with him. >> Mhm. >> And there you said there's a few other
02:16:23
Brian Atlasguys in the picture. Are you also hooking up with them too? here and there. >> Here and there. Okay. Um, >> we'd all live in the same city, so >> Okay. All right. Um,
02:16:37
Brian Atlasgoing back to you, you've been single for two years. Uh, do you have a roster? >> Yeah. >> How big is the roster? >> I don't want to disclose that information.
02:16:49
Brian Atlas>> Oh, come on. It's a It's a fun little comp so many people. I'm not trying. >> There's nobody watching. >> The guys on the roster. [laughter] Nobody watches this [ __ ] I'm [ __ ] a hasband. I'm a [ __ ] hasbin,
02:17:02
Grace (Zoology)you know. [ __ ] over the hill YouTuber. [ __ ] no. Nobody watches this [ __ ] >> It's a few people. >> Three, four, five, six, seven. >> 67. >> Six. >> 67. >> No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I don't know. I don't want to give an exact number. I don't think it really matters
02:17:16
Grace (Zoology)to >> Well, okay. There's like what? 8 billion people in the world. Like, so >> a few guys. Have you scoot your mic that way like two inches? >> Got you.
02:17:28
Brian Atlas>> Okay. So, um, at its biggest, how about that? At right now, whatever. But at its biggest, how big was the roster ever >> at one time? >> Yeah. >> I don't know. Maybe like four.
02:17:41
Grace (Zoology)>> Four. Take a few. >> And that was during college or whatever. >> I don't know. Yeah. >> Yeah. Like, or was it in high school? >> Not in high school. In high school, I was in a relationship pretty much the whole time.
02:17:51
Brian Atlas>> Right. Right. Right. Okay. Um, >> two guys. Okay. So, you got a roster. Um, what's the of one of the guys on the roster, what's the longest period of time you've been seeing him >> hanging out, including like guys that
02:18:04
Brian AtlasI've dated? >> Uh, just like your current roster right now, um, >> like a year. >> One year. Okay. And at no point have you guys called each other boyfriend girlfriends?
02:18:17
Grace (Zoology)>> No. >> How often do you see them? >> I'm trying to fade. >> Fade. >> So, [laughter] I'm trying to fade. fade away. Like I'm trying to like [clears throat] distance myself cuz he's like really like he's like really like into me and I
02:18:29
Grace (Zoology)just like don't it's there's a lot going on with that so I need to >> it just it would be mean if I like >> gave him more attention. >> When's the last time you saw him? >> Last weekend. >> Did you guys hook up? >> Yeah. >> Do you typically just like you know
02:18:42
Brian Atlasyou'll see each other on the weekend just like have a little fun time just hook up kind of thing or >> um It's definitely like more complicated than that. I don't want to get a lot of >> Has he said I love you? Yeah. >> Have you said it to him? >> No.
02:18:56
Grace (Zoology)>> Hey, if you're watching this [ __ ] >> it's not happening, [laughter] man. You got to move on. You got to And >> don't give up. Don't give up. I have love in my heart for him. I just don't want to. >> It's he he wants something that I don't
02:19:09
Brian Atlaswant. So, it's not it's not going to work out. >> Oh, >> that is interesting. Okay. >> In a weak moment, though, I need to not turn to him. >> Uh, okay. Okay. And then like the other guys, are you kind of just having fun
02:19:22
Grace (Zoology)with them too? >> Well, UCSP has like a hard situation where like okay, basically all the women I would say like >> maybe like 90% of the women are like
02:19:31
Grace (Zoology)just drop deadad gorgeous 10 out of 10. >> Um, and all the guys are just not really that way. Um, and so the standard for women is really really really high. And
02:19:42
Grace (Zoology)so, especially I'm in a sorority, so that's also another thing is that all these frats throw parties and there's maybe like a hundred guys in a fraternity and maybe like 300 girls in a sority. And so
02:19:54
Grace (Zoology)there'll be like 50 guys at a party and like 300 beautiful women. And out of the 50 guys that are there, there's maybe like five of them that are really cute. And then out of those five, there's like maybe like one of them that's a good person. So every single guy is
02:20:05
Grace (Zoology)surrounded by like a hundred girls. It's really a struggle. What? >> Um, and so I don't even know what my point was, but it's just it's hard at UCSB. So like really the guys like
02:20:17
Grace (Zoology)>> even the mid ones get really really cute girls. Um, I could talk about this forever and it just like makes their ego get really high and then they can kind of like treat women horribly and still get play because there's so few options
02:20:29
Grace (Zoology)for us beautiful women out there. >> What does treating a woman What does that when you say treating a woman horribly? What do you mean? Just like their players. What do you mean? >> Like Yeah. Like you'll have a really great moment with a guy and it'll feel like really intimate and awesome and
02:20:42
Brian Atlasthen they'll like just never talk to you again or like >> Have you ever done that to a guy? >> Um, no. I don't ghost people. >> I mean, do you think Well, not ghost,
02:20:52
Brian Atlasbut I mean this guy who you've been you you said you have a roster of a couple guys you're currently seeing. Seems like this guy does he want to he want exclusivity?
02:21:04
Grace (Zoology)Yeah. I don't want to get into him. >> That Well, you're about to say yes. Well, it seems like what you're accusing these men of doing is precisely what you're doing. >> No, it's not because I open I like openly communicate with all the people that I've ever seen. Um, and a lot of
02:21:17
Grace (Zoology)people do not openly communicate. I feel like I'm very emotionally mature in that way and I can >> So, you What do you tell the men then? What do you tell them? >> Well, there's It just depends on the situation. What do you mean what do I
02:21:29
Brian Atlastell the men in what situation? You tell them. You say you're very open, I assume, about the fact that you're not looking for a relationship and you're dating and sleeping with multiple people.
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Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> Is that what you tell them? >> Yeah. >> Okay.
02:21:51
Brian AtlasBut yet it seems like there's one guy who has confessed his love for you, wants to be monogamous, wants to be exclusive, wants to be boyfriend and girlfriend. And it I I got a bit of a
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Grace (Zoology)sense that it seems like maybe a little bit of stringing him along. >> No, that's what I'm saying. I'm not stringing him along. That's why I'm not
02:22:11
Brian Atlasseeing him anymore. >> I mean, how long has he wanted more? >> I don't know. Probably since we met. >> Oh. >> And you've been seeing him for a year. So you've been stringing him on for a year.
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Grace (Zoology)>> Well, I have been seeing him for a year. It's been like small segments of time. He's had like a girlfriend in between. It's been very like >> It's complicated then, I guess. Um Okay. >> Very complicated. >> Um and would you say uh like kind of
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Brian Atlasyour experience, is that pretty like among the other women who go to UCSB? Do you think it's pretty common? Like just kind of, you know, a bit of a roster dating multiple people. Is that a pretty
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Grace (Zoology)common thing? >> Well, yeah. The culture at UCSB is very hookup culture. There's people that are really not looking for relationships at all. And I kind of thought that a little bit coming into college, but it really
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Grace (Zoology)has been dramatic and a lot um more than I would have expected that it's just people just want to [ __ ] and that's it. Um and so I don't know. I'm like honestly I would not even say that I
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Brian Atlashave a roster right now. I'm protecting my peace from now on. >> Okay. All right. What? Uh, and you said you had a roster of five and you're are you >> give and take, give and take. >> And but of of the men who are on your roster, whether it's three, four, five.
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Brian AtlasYeah. >> Um, are you hooking up with all of them? >> No, not right now. Like we live in different cities. >> But when you do see them? >> Yeah. When I [clears throat] see them. Yeah. >> You you hook up with them. Okay. Um, Essie, what about you? Your relationship status?
02:23:36
Brian Atlas>> I'm in a relationship. >> Okay. All right. Uh, how long have you been uh seeing that person? Um, we've been together, it'll be six months, end of
02:23:47
Brian Atlasthis month. >> Okay. Um, longest relationship? >> Um, a little over a year. So, I'd round down and say a year.
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Lauren (Buddhist)>> Okay. All right. What about you? >> I My most recent relationship was with my ex-husband when we were together about two years and three months. >> Have you been married before? >> I have.
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Brian Atlas>> Two times. >> Twice. >> Married two times. Okay. Uh, let's start with the first one. How long are you married to your first husband? [sighs and gasps] >> Less than two years around that. >> Okay. >> Time.
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Brian Atlas>> Do you have kids? >> I do. I have three kids. >> Three kids. From how many men? >> They all have different fathers. >> All three of them have different fathers. >> Correct. >> And you're single currently, correct? >> I am. Okay. The struggle is real.
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Lauren (Buddhist)>> Uh, your first husband, is he the father of the first child? No, my first my oldest daughter was conceived um from a 4mon relationship.
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Brian Atlas>> Uh your And how old were you when you had your first kid? >> 22. >> Uh Essie, can I have you just center your mic? Like center it to your body. Yeah. You were 22, >> correct? >> Okay. Um is he in the picture? The that
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Lauren (Buddhist)guy? >> Yes, we co-parent. We have a co-arenting relationship. Shout out. They're great. >> Okay. >> Him and his uh >> And does he pay you child support? Yes, he does. >> How much does he pay you? >> About 300ish. >> $300 a month.
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Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Okay. Is it 50/50 custody? >> Yes. But I have I have primary custody. >> Primary. Okay. >> All right. And uh so that's the first guy. Uh first marriage. Is that the second kid? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. And you were married to him for
02:25:28
Brian Atlastwo years >> approximately. >> Did he pay you alimony? >> Alimony? No. >> Uh okay. Did does he pay you child support? >> Yes, he does.
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Brian Atlas>> How much does he pay you? Roughly 400. >> 400. Okay. Uh and then the third child, is that from your second marriage? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. How long was that second marriage?
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Lauren (Buddhist)>> Two years and three months. >> Uh Okay. Does he pay you alimony? >> Yes, he does. >> How much? Or not alimony. Child support? >> Did he ever pay you alimony? >> No, sir. >> Okay. How much does he pay you in child support?
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Brian Atlas>> 650. >> 650. Okay. Your first divorce, did you initiate or first marriage? Did you initiate the divorce? >> Yes, sir. >> Second marriage, did you initiate the divorce? >> Yes, sir.
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Lauren (Buddhist)>> Okay. What was the reasons? >> Uh most recent divorce was uh we weren't compatible on our values. Uh mostly
02:26:24
Lauren (Buddhist)regarding around intimacy, sex. He had like a hidden pornography addiction that I wouldn't have uh ever entered a
02:26:34
Lauren (Buddhist)relationship with him had I known that that was the case. And he misled me, gaslighted me, told me that that wasn't an issue. We never we we disagreed on our values initially, but he said that
02:26:47
Lauren (Buddhist)he would never do anything to betray my trust and I would just have to trust him. He kept his phone under lock and key and anytime I would confront him or we would have uh discussions about it, I
02:26:58
Lauren (Buddhist)was very very open and honest about my clear boundaries on uh pornography consumption to me and I made it very clear that I do consider that cheating. Um getting any kind of sexual
02:27:10
Lauren (Buddhist)gratification outside of our relationship really hurts the trust and the foundation and the intimacy. So after two and a half years of like gaslighting and always having that instinct like just something was off
02:27:23
Lauren (Buddhist)like yeah I finally found out the truth and so >> there was really no like reconciling after that. The damage had already been done. >> Yeah, that really sucks. I think that pornography addiction is like a really big prevalent issue especially in
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Lauren (Buddhist)younger men. It's awful. >> Yeah, it is. >> Did you try to work through it with him? Like offer him to go to therapy for his addiction? >> I I did. Um, intimacy was always really
02:27:46
Lauren (Buddhist)like uh it just it was always really emotionally disconnected for us. I'm really empathetic and emotional and all that stuff and he was it was purely physical for him. So um there was always
02:27:58
Lauren (Buddhist)a disconnect there. I would always try to bridge that gap and he wasn't really uh receptive or reciprocative uh until divorce papers were on the table. Then he wanted to change his tune
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Lauren (Buddhist)but it wasn't until then. And then the second marriage reason for divorce >> the Well, so that was my the first marriage. Is that the one? Because that was my I was >> Oh, the most recent one. >> I was referring to the most recent one.
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Brian Atlas>> He watched adult stuff. >> Yeah. >> And then the first one was the reason for the divorce. >> Yeah. Um our my first marriage, uh we got divorced. [sighs]
02:28:34
Lauren (Buddhist)We just I don't know, we weren't compatible. We had a lot of uh just really immature fights and disagreements and then it became like a bitterness and then it just really our relationship
02:28:46
Lauren (Buddhist)just degraded because we didn't really treat each other like we cared about each other anymore. >> So, >> hold on. Sorry. Trying to I I never did
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Brian Atlasthe story so I'm trying to get to it. Um >> okay. Uh [clears throat] relationship status for you? >> I'm happily married. >> Married. How long you been married for? Uh, since April. >> Any kids?
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Brian Atlas>> Yes. One. >> One kid. All right. From your husband. All right. And you're 22, right? >> Yes. >> All right. That's pretty pretty young. Pretty young there. >> Congratulations. Thank you. >> All right. Um, >> unmuted.
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Brian Atlas>> Oh, >> Selena, congratulations. [laughter] Welcome back. >> I was muted. >> She was just enjoying the other people talking. Um, yeah, thank you. You are now back. Uh, what about you? But I just
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Selenaneed to say one thing. >> Oh my [laughter] gosh. Pasty George, where are you? There again, >> we love you. >> Side eye. >> You're a real one.
02:29:44
Selena>> That man sounds like he's controlled by lust. And most men are super lustful and controlled by their lust. >> And I'm sorry about that. They can't control it. Exactly. >> What the heck?
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Erica (Married)>> I wouldn't say can't. >> Yeah. I would say just choose not to because I think it's a matter of discipline. discipline doing something whether or not you want to do it. >> Let me just move this on. Uh what about you? >> Did you say relationship status or did I miss? >> No. Yeah, I haven't said it yet. I'm
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Erica (Married)happily married. Been married since August and my longest relationship is now over four years. >> Congratulations. Congrats. >> Thank you guys. >> Congrats. Congrats. We have some chats coming through and I'll get to those super
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SPEAKER_00>> SP1 miss you donated $200. >> Sorry for the delay on that. H1, you live in the freest, most prosperous country in the history of the world, and you demonize the very men who gave that
02:30:33
Erica (Married)to you. Just awful, >> boy. What? >> That's an embarrassing comment. >> Yeah, like we said earlier, freedom isn't free. I think that's where that that comment came from.
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Brian Atlas>> Sorry for the delay on that. Uh, Tiram Massu, I she was she stepped away, so I just wanted to wait cuz your TTS was directed at her. I wanted to wait a moment until she returned and until the
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Brian Atlasthe mic mutes came off. So, sorry for the delay on that. We have uh Can I have you read? I don't know if you can see or Essie, you get to read. >> Yay. I'm reading the full thing. Yeah.
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Essie>> Okay. Um >> is it Berry Wisdom? Barrow Wisdom. Mexican American here. I voted for Trump. Chair Forest is typical 304 hot Cheeto eating Latina with liberal views. We do not claim her. Good luck to your
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Natalie/Morenanext non-existent rap career. >> We don't claim you. We don't claim you. Latinos for Trump are embarrassing. >> Latinos for Trump are embarrassing. >> Yeah, that's called the Trump part. >> Embarrassing.
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Essie>> All right. Thank you, burial wisdom. We have Dalomar here. >> I mean, I'm too sorry. Detained is not arrested. Arrested is not deported. You incompetent effing children. You do not
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Essieeven know what the [ __ ] due process is. Illegal aliens are automatic. Automatically I can't read that part. Deported. You do not get a jury trial. >> Everyone has the right to due process. >> Every citizen. >> I thought this was a dating show.
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Seline>> Yeah, me too. [laughter] >> Hey, I don't know. Some people brought it to other places. >> Going off the laws here. You have to be a citizen to get due process. >> Everyone deserves due process. >> I I can agree with that sentiment that everybody deserves it.
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Brian Atlas>> But if we're looking at the facts here, not everybody gets it. >> Yeah. And they deserve it. Should we really bog down the United States government with unnecessary like are we going to like give people like what if
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Brian Atlasthey all opt for jury trials economically it's not feasible uh it's not feasible judiciously well is that the right word um just >> judicially >> jud Thank you judicially
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Brian Atlas>> I have a lisp or something I guess I haven't thank you for the for that but >> I don't judge >> it's just not it's not practical it's really not practical >> there's so much money in the world it's so practical No, it is. >> No, it's not. >> I think in Columbus.
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Essie>> All right. Here. Can you read this one, Essie? >> Um, if it was all Kumbaya in North America, pre-Colus, then why do the cliff dwellers exist? Visbar. >> I'm not familiar. I don't know what the cliff dwellers. I'm not sure what that
02:32:59
Brian Atlasis. >> Red herring. >> That How is it? Oh, no. >> Okay. Um, >> sure. >> All right. Uh, thank you for that. Uh,
02:33:09
Brian AtlasPasty George says this. Uh, Patrick Diver says that. Jack Paul Russell. Essie, if you can read this one. >> Uh, chair eight is awesome. Chair one is absolutely stupid. Chair four is also
02:33:21
Essieridiculously dumb. Chair four needs to read the book Empire of the Summer Moon. >> Oh, >> you wish you were as smart as me, Jock. [laughter] >> No, he doesn't. >> Yeah, he does.
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Selena>> I can confidently say that cuz I know who that So, Georgetown educated about to get my degree in foreign policy. So, I'm pretty sure he does wish he was as educated. >> Obviously, your education hasn't gotten you very far cuz you got your ass handed
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Selenato you in the first like hour. >> Girl, no. It my ass was not handed to me. My education has gotten me like quite far. >> Being arrogant doesn't make you smart. Being loud doesn't make you right. >> I'm not arrogant. I'm just stating facts is so now stating facts is being
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Selenaarrogant. Cute. >> Sure. >> If you had facts, maybe you'd state them, too. >> You just have opinions and you want to project them as facts. They are facts. Most of what I'm saying is >> factually correct and I've learned it through reading books.
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Erica (Married)>> Yeah. I don't know what kind of books you're reading, but I've read books and [ __ ] >> Why are you being so rude and jealous? >> I don't understand. You know, I'm not going to talk actually. I'm talking jealous. >> You want directly point like why are you being so >> I think you're projecting because I this
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SelineNo, this energy literally came from her trying to accuse somebody of being jealous. >> Trust me. I I just think that there needs to be this uh we need to be able to let two
02:34:36
Selinethings be true at once. [laughter] >> We can agree on certain aspects and disagree on certain aspects and they can still both be true. You don't have to be rude. >> Can we just all be nice to each other and talk about dating? >> I that's a good idea. >> But I love the points. I kind
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Grace (Zoology)>> I kind of like that. >> Hold on. Um >> feel like it's curating a lot of hate and anger. >> Cur What do you mean by curating hate? because it's very black and white. >> Like I just feel like the conversation
02:35:02
Grace (Zoology)that we've been having has been um >> on on my side >> on >> or on their side. >> I think there's a lot of just underlying feelings of um anger in what we're
02:35:12
Grace (Zoology)talking about because it obviously like is very I mean that makes sense why it's like that. I just I don't even know what I'm trying to say. I just don't want to be talking about this. [laughter] >> Honestly, never mind. Never mind. I'll
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SelineI'll speak in in another second. just man-hating misandress. >> I special consider myself to be a a by definition a feminist, but I think that when you come into a discussion like
02:35:37
Selinethis and you're unable to be wrong or at least to agree to like, hey, this might be true. Uh I don't necessarily emotionally agree with that, but like objectively [clears throat] it can be true. If we can't do that, then there's no point in even having this
02:35:50
Selenaconversation. >> Mhm. So, like do you think like because you feel that you're not like a feminist or whatever, you are better than other women?
02:36:01
Erica (Married)>> No, I don't. I'm a pretty humble person. >> Okay. So, do you feel that we hate men? >> I don't think all feminists hate men, but I do think that feminist extremists hate men. And a lot of what you're
02:36:13
Erica (Married)saying does seem like man-hating behavior. So standing up for women's rights isn't hating men, >> but placing all of the blame on men is hating men. And what you're doing is
02:36:25
Samrayou're devaluing the suffering that men go through and then the men victims. >> What? >> Yes. >> I think it's the way you're saying it. Yes. Exactly. >> It's not like you're specifically saying
02:36:35
Samrathat like, oh, all men are this and all women are great. It's just the way that you've come into the conversation, how you've discussed things, it seems like you're leading more to like men suck completely.
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Selena>> I mean, I do think men suck. I think a lot because of the patriarchy, a lot of men have >> arrogance and they mistreat women. Do you agree? >> No, I don't agree.
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Erica (Married)>> So, you think men don't mistreat women? >> I'm not saying that. >> I don't I do not think that a majority of men mistreat women. I do not. Why do you think there are phrases like, "Ugh, men suck." Because I think women are
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Selenapetty and dramatic. >> Okay. So, just because like you're going against other women doesn't mean like men are going to choose you. >> I'm not. But pick me. I'm married. I'm already sold. I'm off the streets. >> The streets?
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Selena>> Yeah. We're all you are. >> So, you think cuz I'm not married. I'm on the streets and I like really need a husband. >> You're really bitterly and desperately single. Yes. You're obviously not happy. Your
02:37:35
Selenaattitude does not scream, "I'm happy and I love my life." I don't think this conversation is progressive at all. >> I mean, I think my attitude is critical. I'm critical of the world. I'm not here sitting like LA, everything's all good. >> Well, your attitude is a reflection of
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Selenayourself. And if you don't respect the others around you, that I don't see why anybody should respect you. >> I'm not disrespecting. I'm just >> You're saying men suck. That's not disrespectful. It really is. >> That's stating facts about the p like you're Okay. Well, I'm sorry. You're the
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Erica (Married)one that literally just said it's a privilege to carry a man's child in that bringing this up 3 hours later. I mean, it's a pretty big point. I've never heard it. >> You're going to keep deflecting back to that [ __ ] >> I'm not deflecting. I'm saying I've
02:38:13
Erica (Married)literally never you're going way off [ __ ] topic because that's not even going off topic, guys. >> You guys can go ahead, but just one at a time, let each other finish. >> Can we please change the conversation? I
02:38:25
Selenajust don't think either of you guys' minds are going to get like changed. No, I'm just interested in like having >> semantics. I believe in good faith debate. I am willing to have my mind changed.
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Selena>> I I am interested in seeing like where this is coming from cuz I've never really spoken to someone that that thinks this way, especially a woman. So, I'm interested in
02:38:49
Erica (Married)>> kind of understanding. >> I'm wondering why the discrimination and the intolerance for men is appropriate. >> You think I'm discriminating against her? You are discriminating against men. Yes.
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Selena>> So by recognizing the patriarchy exists and by recognizing the [clears throat] oppression that men have done to women, I am being discriminatory.
02:39:11
Seline>> No, you have this delusional theory that everything is men's fault. I never said everything was men's fault. I said there are certain things that men have enacted upon women. >> Okay. But anytime someone tries to add on to that or elaborate, you rebut it or
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Samralike completely >> because I disagree. It's called just disagreeing with a point, which is the point of a podcast. >> Going back to like the privilege thing, I [snorts] can see how that kind of like shocked you that she said, but I feel like
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Samra>> coming from women who can't have kids, it is a privilege to have a child. I mean, she said having a man's child, but it's it is a privilege to have a child because there's a lot of women who can't do that. >> Okay. Yeah, but that was not what I was
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Erica (Married)saying. your child. >> I was saying I I was replying to >> it's a privilege to carry a man's child. >> You'reing with irrelevant information because it triggered you and you think that you have a point and you don't. >> I do. >> You really don't.
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Erica (Married)>> I do have a point. >> Sure. Anyways, so what do you define as the streets? >> I mean I mean I'm listening to a bunch of girls who got mileong rosters. That's
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Erica (Married)that's for the streets. You guys are in the dating scene. you are a part of the sex culture that is on the streets because when you're taken off the streets, you are getting married. So you
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Essiethink so what about a man that has a roster? Is that okay? It's really not my place to have an opinion on cuz I'm not a man, but you're defending them very [laughter] frequently. So I find it hard to believe that you don't have an opinion on that or an answer for that.
02:40:39
Erica (Married)I'm trying to figure out why women think that we have the right to tell men what to do and what our expectations are of them when we rarely have any expectations of ourselves. >> But you also think that abortion should
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Grace (Zoology)be illegal. So you're saying you find it hard to for men or for us to have expectations for men and what they can and can't do. But you are it's the opposite. You have the opposite belief about >> I'm allowed to have beliefs. I'm not say
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Erica (Married)I'm I do not have the power to go up to somebody and say that you cannot have an abortion and force them to not have an abortion. I do not have that power. So, I can't physically do that. >> Okay, that's wasn't my point. But >> I'm allowed to have an opinion and I'm
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Erica (Married)allowed to have a political one. I'm allowed to have opinions on sexual reproduction because I am a woman. >> Yeah. >> So, do you judge women that sleep with multiple men? >> Yes. >> Why? Because I think that you are
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Erica (Married)disrespecting yourself and the people that you're pretending to try and have a relationship with. >> What if you're just sleeping with them and not having a relationship with them? >> Well, I don't see what there is to gain from not having genuine authentic connections.
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Erica (Married)>> So, >> pleasure. [laughter] >> You can get that from a vibrator. I don't know why you need to go get STDs from a bunch of dudes. >> You don't need to get STDs to have sex with people. [snorts] >> Yeah, but there's also a greater chance if you are actively having sex with a
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Selenagreat number of people. I mean, yeah, if you use protection, it's like you don't >> So, what if a man had a roster of like seven girls? Is that would you still date him? >> Probably not. >> No, probably not. No, but that's the
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Selenathing is that we should be holding people to the equal standards that we hold ourselves to and not more. >> So, if a like if a guy had a higher body count, then you you wouldn't date him or be with him. >> Uh, honestly, that's not possible in my
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Erica (Married)case because my husband's a little bit older than me. So, I think it's natural that he has a little bit higher of a body count. So, yeah. No, I'm not going to judge men for having a higher body count than me. Also, I personally enjoy for having a higher body count than you.
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Erica (Married)>> Yeah, I'm going to do that. >> So, why are you judging women for having a higher body count than you and not men? >> Because it does reflect on you at the end of the day and it reflects in your attitude, your personality. I mean, how you're presenting yourself. I It really does. >> Do you have a lot of friends that are
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SPEAKER_05women? >> I do. >> You do? >> I do. >> Did your husband have a high body count? >> Huh? I honestly don't know what his body count is. I didn't ask. And I don't know why why would I?
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Erica (Married)>> Oh, girl, you're in for a surprise. >> I'm really not. What's the You're in for a surprise cuz you're never going to end up married. >> I'm glad. >> You said he's I don't want to be Let's not be mean. >> You said he's a little bit older than you. >> Girl, I'm not even a little bit older
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SPEAKER_02than me. That's >> what's like the age gap. >> Everyone, let's just not be mean. >> Were you Was were you his first marriage? >> Yes. >> Okay, that's good. Mhm.
02:43:22
Erica (Married)>> Wait, how old is he? >> Oh, he just turned 44. >> Okay. How old are you? How old are you? >> Older turned 25. >> Wa. >> Do you live here in California? >> No. Where are you from? >> Southern Oregon.
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Seline>> I think it's a different in values as well from where we're from. >> I think especially age too. Like if you're an older man, I'm not going to judge your body count the same way I would judge a man who's like 21, >> right?
02:43:47
Seline>> I would still kind of judge it though. I'd average it per year. >> I think that there is There is a level of judgment that is acceptable. It's like, oh, you know, there are reflections in your actions to your life, but I do believe that a lot of
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Selinethings are situational. Like with your situation, your husband is older, so argue, like objectively speaking, it's most likely that he would have a higher body body count than you cuz you're younger.
02:44:10
Seline>> It just makes sense. >> But hopefully it's not like 300 or not because that would be that would be difficult to achieve that. But when it gets to the numbers that are difficult to achieve, that's when it's like, okay,
02:44:22
Seline>> you would think they're difficult, but some men I hear it and I'm like, you're 30. How is your body count like 600 women? >> I I've met them, too. But >> those are the men. They I feel like it goes for women, too. When you're that
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Erica (Married)type of person, you give off that type of vibe and people stay away. >> May I ask like, are you expected to do like any duties around the house? No, I volunteer myself because I feel like, you know, it's I have time to do it and so I do it.
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Erica (Married)>> That's That's nice. >> So if you So you're not like he doesn't like expect you to clean or anything? >> I don't have to. >> Or like do like you can have a job. >> I don't have to do anything but I contribute as much as I can towards my
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Selenarelationship voluntarily. >> Are you allowed to have a job? >> Yes, I have a job. >> Okay, so that's called feminism. So you're a feminist. Congrats. >> I'm not a feminist. But those privileges were all granted to you by feminism.
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Selena>> Well, I'm not a careerdriven person. This isn't a career. It's a job. There's a difference. >> Okay. Yeah. But all of that is granted to you by feminism. Therefore, making you a feminist. >> Granted to me by feminism. What do you mean?
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Erica (Married)>> Before that, you wouldn't have been able to have a job and you'd be expected to do all the domestic duties of the household. >> Who said that I want to have a job? >> Maybe I just want to get out of the house for a few hours a day. You know,
02:45:37
Erica (Married)maybe I really enjoy my job so much it doesn't feel like work. >> White girl, >> I know it's really incomprehensible to really love your life and what you're doing. >> You are enjoying a lot of the benefits of of feminism.
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Seline>> I'm enjoying a lot of the benefits of the so-called patriarchy that you find oppressive. >> There's a difference between modern feminism and just like the point blank if we're talking about the definition of feminism. I feel like most women would be considered feminists. So the yeah the
02:46:03
Erica (Married)definition of feminism would be equality for all men and women and everyone but a lot of >> it's different now >> right and a lot of modern feminism goes towards uh encouraging more rights of women and promoting the um
02:46:16
Erica (Married)>> it's a little extremist. >> Yeah it is definitely a little more extremist and then promoting hatred towards men which devalues the male victims and makes them feel unheard and unseen. >> Yes. No, I totally agree with that. I
02:46:29
Selinethink that that is something that's very important. Um I just me personally again I'm on the same page as you like dish out which you know what you want to receive, >> right? >> Um I think that there are unfortunately
02:46:42
Selinea lot of men and women >> who are actively perpetuating and speaking on especially online about these really extremist opinions, right? >> And it kind of like doesn't leave room for the middle ground which I feel like
02:46:54
Erica (Married)is most normal people, >> right? And that's why I'm not trying to make any grand claims like hating all feminists. Like that's not real. >> It's inaccurate. You're overgeneralizing and you're labeling an entire group buil
02:47:05
Essiebuilt on an individual's behavior. >> Exactly. No, I totally agree with you. >> Would you be a stay-at-home wife if your husband wanted you to or you were had the financial opportunity? >> Once we have kids, I will be a stay-at-home mom right now. I'm just
02:47:17
Erica (Married)trying to keep myself busy. I don't have enough house to clean. [laughter] >> What attracted you to your husband? >> Oh man, it's really hard to say. I think it was just he offered me the the stability I could never find in anybody
02:47:30
Erica (Married)else. And he gave me the opportunity to change for the better. And I honestly would have never been with him if I didn't change and just be better, you know? >> How do you feel about the age difference? >> It honestly doesn't bother me. It not
02:47:42
Erica (Married)even a little bit. I I I really like the silver fox thing. [laughter] >> Okay. I have some questions. >> What >> What years were World War I? Starting with you, Selena. [laughter]
02:47:54
SPEAKER_02Why is this funny? >> I'm This is just what I asked. >> Um, World War I. Okay. It was >> Wait, if you know it, do you know it for sure? Because if you know it for sure, don't answer, guys.
02:48:06
SPEAKER_02>> Okay. Okay, then I'll be quiet. >> You know it. >> I think so. >> You want to guess?
02:48:16
SPEAKER_02>> No, >> you don't know. Just have them answer. >> Well, sometimes they're like, I know it. And then they ruin it for everyone. >> Let them answer.
02:48:25
Selena>> Okay. World War I. I want to say
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SPEAKER_02we're going to say 19 10. >> You just That's just your range. Or are you guessing the year 1910?
02:48:48
SelenaI'll say I'll say like around 1910 19 maybe 14 was the end. >> Okay. What about you? >> I'm going to I'm not going to answer. >> No, you have to answer. >> I don't know.
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Seline>> You have to guess. >> Um Okay, then if I have to guess, I'll say like 1930 >> to a year later. So 1930 to 1931. >> I'm not a politics person, guys. That's
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Grace (Zoology)>> okay. >> History. I thought it was 1914 though. >> Okay. Don't don't talk over her. >> Okay. 1914 >> to >> to >> I don't I like literally listen to so
02:49:27
Grace (Zoology)many history podcasts over the summer about World War I. So, it's like pissing me off that I can't remember. But like I'll just say 1914 to 1918. >> Okay. Next. >> Same answer. >> But
02:49:39
Essie>> 1914 to 1918. >> Okay. Next. >> I think I might be wrong now. I'm going to say 1922 to 1926.
02:49:50
Lauren (Buddhist)Okay. Next. >> I believe it was 1914 to 1918. >> Next. >> 1914 to 1918. >> 1914 to 1918. >> Yes, it is 1914 to 1918. >> You know what?
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SPEAKER_02>> I was kind of close considering how clueless. >> I think you were very close, but I appreciate it. >> Okay. What years were World War II?
02:50:14
SPEAKER_02I'm going to say 1930s to >> like I'm just going to say sometime in the 1930s. Yeah. >> Next. >> Same thing. I guess >> you have to you have to be original. You have to give me years.
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Seline>> Okay. Um then I'll say something outlandish. 1980. >> You have to like really >> You can't just be like, "Oh, what she said." >> Well, World War II came after the first
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SPEAKER_02one, so I'm going to assume it was after 20. So >> let's say 1925 to >> 3 years later.
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Grace (Zoology)>> So 1925 to 1920. Okay. Next >> I want to say like 1942
02:50:58
Grace (Zoology)to like it it could have ended in 1942 though. I don't know. Um it could have also been 1932. I'm just I'll say 1932 to um 1938.
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Lauren (Buddhist)>> Okay, >> that doesn't sound right, but I know it's going to be wrong, but give or take. >> I'll say 1942 to 1944. Okay, next I'm going to say 1934 to
02:51:21
Lauren (Buddhist)1937. Next, >> uh 1932 to 1937. >> Next,
02:51:29
Erica (Married)>> it's 1939 to 1942. That's probably >> I honestly don't know. So I'll guess 1940 1943ish. >> It was 1939 to 45.
02:51:42
SPEAKER_02>> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. >> I only know this from this podcast though. >> Get it. [laughter] Name a continent. >> Africa. >> Oceanana.
02:51:54
SPEAKER_02>> North America. >> Next. >> South America. >> Next. >> Australia. I was already said. >> Australia said Ocean. >> It's included in
02:52:07
SPEAKER_02[laughter] >> Do I have to guess again? >> You have to guess a different one. Yeah. We We can't repeat. No repeat. >> Did they say North America? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> South America. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> That one. >> Okay. What do we got out of the way now?
02:52:20
SamraWe got >> left. >> Oh, did you say Africa? >> Yes. >> Okay. [laughter] >> Okay. So [gasps] >> yeah, Africa.
02:52:30
SPEAKER_02>> No, Africa was already said. >> Europe. >> Okay, next. >> [ __ ] Running out. [laughter] >> No, we have enough. >> Antarctica a continent? >> Yes. Next. >> Ah, [laughter]
02:52:44
Erica (Married)>> next. >> Um, is Russia a continent? >> No. >> Yeah. I don't know. I didn't think so. I thought it was just a country, but that thing is [ __ ] huge. [laughter] >> No, there's one more. >> It's within a continent that hasn't been said. Okay. Okay. >> There's one more.
02:53:01
SPEAKER_08It's pretty big. >> I know. I was just saying it's huge.
02:53:10
SPEAKER_02>> I don't know. >> It's Asia. >> Asia. I see. I see. >> My husband told me that wasn't [laughter] >> what a jerk. He set you up.
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SPEAKER_02>> I No, no repeating, by the way. Name >> three countries. >> Three countries. >> Yeah. >> Um, Switzerland.
02:53:32
SPEAKER_02>> That's one. >> The United States. >> That's two. Haiti. >> Okay. Next. [snorts] >> Australia, New Zealand, and Greenland.
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Natalie/Morena>> Next. >> Colia, Brazil, Argentina. >> Next. >> Wait, am I am I supposed to not say what everyone else has said? Oh my god, that's so hard to remember. >> Easy one. >> Well, I I think I'll remember, so I'll
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Essietell you. >> Um, what did we already not say? Um, let's see.
02:54:07
SPEAKER_02Canada. >> Okay. And we already said Russia. No, that wasn't said. >> Oh, Russia. >> Yeah. >> Um, did we say
02:54:26
SPEAKER_02We say Ireland. Nope. That's already been said. Or that's been You just said that. No, you just said that. Sorry. That hasn't been said already. Next. >> Sweden. Ireland. >> That was already said. >> Sweden. It was Switzerland. >> Switzerland. Switzerland.
02:54:40
Lauren (Buddhist)Ireland. >> You just said Sweden. Wait. >> Ireland. >> Not Sweden, though. >> She just said Ireland. So, >> okay. Can I say Sweden? >> Yeah. >> And then Norway and Finland. >> Okay. Next.
02:54:50
Erica (Married)Um, Congo, Kazakhstan, and Mexico. Next, uh, China, Japan. Trying to think of another one off the top of my head. Um, oh [ __ ] [laughter]
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SPEAKER_02that's a good I don't want to steal it. I feel bad. Yeah, I guess Thailand. I don't know. >> Guys, don't be giving hints. >> Yeah, I [laughter] was like, I feel bad. >> All the easy ones were taken. The They're all There's a lot. >> I liked the challenge. It was fun.
02:55:20
SPEAKER_02Um, okay. What was your final one? >> Oh, somebody said Thailand. >> Okay, whatever. >> I know. I feel bad. I cheated. >> Whatever. I'll let you pass. Um, you would have had it. You would have had it.
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SPEAKER_02>> We were asking name three countries. I mean, I know you didn't hear most of them, so you can just throw out whatever. >> Palestine, Congo, Sudan.
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Selena>> Okay. I >> think we said Congo. Yeah, I said Congo. >> Oh, I could. >> Well, she wasn't She wasn't here. So, >> I love Ghana. You guys should visit Ghana. >> Okay. Um, what would you want the
02:55:56
Selenaminimum yearly income to be for your future husband? Um, I would say close to what I would be
02:56:05
Selenamaking. I'm like hoping like around 100K. Like that's my goal on what I want to be making. So,
02:56:15
Seline>> okay. dual income would be pretty good. >> Okay, next. >> Um, I've never really considered a
02:56:24
Selinenumber. It's more about the lifestyle. Um, I personally see myself making at least 80K a year. I'm not really intending to live some lavish lifestyle
02:56:35
Selineor anything, but just enough to support a home, maybe a couple children, our pets, and basic utilities. go out on the weekends, stuff like that. Like, however much you would need to have a normal life, really. >> Just as long as the bills are paid.
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Grace (Zoology)>> Yeah. >> Hell yeah. >> Okay. Next. >> $500,000. I'm just kidding. [laughter] No, I I don't feel that way. Um I don't know. I just I don't really care about money as much as as long as I really really [ __ ] with the person that I'm
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