RAGE QUIT! Andrew Wilson! She WILL NOT Date A Man Who Can't Drive Stick?! | Dating Talk #176

Date: 2024-07-08

Duration: 8h 31m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKylie Hansen >

AAmy (Amy Is Show)>

CChase Carson >

DDaria (DT176)>

MMorgan (DT176)>

HHannah (DT176)>

MMason Gregoire >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01TTS / donation reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Hannah(guest)

SPEAKER_03Chase Carson(guest)

SPEAKER_04Jess(guest)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_08TTS donations(audience)

SPEAKER_09Mason Gregoire(guest)

SPEAKER_10Amy (Amy Is Show)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Morgan(guest)

SPEAKER_12Daria(guest)

SPEAKER_13Morgan (off-panel)(audience)

SPEAKER_14Kylie Hansen(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteJess announces she is enlisting in the U.S. Marines at age 30. Explains motivation: lack of education, bartending at 30 feels embarrassing, wants structure and self-improvement.

“my name is Jess I'm 30 I'm from Bay Area California I'm a bartender and I'm actually enlisting in the military... I leave in January”

QuoteJess discloses that her partner of 8.5 years died in 2019. She spent ~5 years grieving and in therapy before recently entering a new talking stage.

“my longest relationship is 8 and a half years... he has passed away since then he died in 2019 and I had a very hard time moving on with my life”

OtherMason Gregoire introduces himself as "primarily a Christ follower" before listing his occupation as mechanical engineer. Panel reacts. He states he is pursuing Air Force Special Warfare and is training for it.

“yeah uh my name is Mason greguar um first and foremost I'm primarily a Christ follower my uh job is mechanical engineer”

ControversyMason explains why men prefer younger women: biological clock concerns, less emotional baggage, more open to deprogramming. States he would not date a woman over 30-32 due to accumulated baggage.

“I don't want to date someone who's over the age of like 30 31 32 because one they all have all of this extra life baggage... I want to have a large family”

ControversyAmy states she would "question the mental health" of men attracted to women 20+ years younger and uses the word "predatory." Brian challenges her, calling the statement pathologizing of all men. Extended confrontation.

“I would be concerned about their mental health why are they dating someone... if a man is 20 years older... you're praying on them”

OtherRAGE QUIT: Amy leaves after Brian calls her "retarded" during the age-gap debate. Amy had called men who pursue much younger women mentally ill / predatory. She dropped a prop, Brian escalated. Amy states she will not tolerate disrespect and leaves despite Andrew and others asking her to stay. Brian offers to apologize if she sits back down; she does not return.

“could I make a comment as soon as like why would you call me retarded yeah I mean here's the tone policing again”

ControversyDaria and Jess respond to Amy's rage quit, noting that Amy had called all men "mentally ill" and "disgusting" before getting offended at being called a single slur. Panel broadly agrees Amy's departure lacked consistency.

“did she not call you guys mentally ill and disgusting... she called all men mentally ill she called but you got called”

QuoteHannah describes kicking a 28-year-old man out of her manual transmission car for not knowing what the three pedals were. States she will not date a man who cannot drive stick shift because she does not want to be more masculine than a man.

“and he was like why do you have three pedals I was like get the fuck out of my car... 28 years old and not know what a stick shift is”

ControversyBrian produces a Wikipedia search showing "toxic femininity" redirects to "internalized misogyny" while toxic masculinity has a full article. Used as evidence of asymmetric treatment of gender topics.

“I did a Google search of toxic femininity and toxic masculinity and there's Wikipedia article for toxic masculinity but if you try to search for toxic femininity it redirects to internalized misogyny”

QuoteAndrew Wilson apologizes for leaving the show early citing an engagement in the morning. Thanks Brian, Mason, and the panel. Leaves before the show wraps.

“Brian Brian sorry to cut you off I got to get going I got an engagement early in the morning”

Topics Discussed

Introductions and Relationship Status

Host Brian Atlas opens show from Santa Barbara. Guests introduce themselves: Kylie Hansen (21, Denver, UCSB nanny/student), Amy (34, LA, podcast host + Army vet), Chase Carson (27, SB, hospital nutrition staff, bisexual), Daria (30, LA/Iran, tattoo artist), Jess (30, Bay Area, bartender/Marine enlistee), Morgan (29, East Bay, lash tech), Hannah (26, Maryland, web designer), Mason Gregoire (28, AZ, mechanical engineer/AF aspirant), Andrew Wilson (remote, debate host). Discussion of talking stages, exclusivity norms, relationship status, and body counts.

Talking Stage Norms and Exclusivity

Brian asks Kylie about her talking stage — does it bother her if the man she is dating sleeps with other women? Kylie initially says it would not bother her; panel pushes back. Jess and Chase argue against multi-partner talking stages. Mason shares his exclusive, marriage-focused talking stage. Hannah and others discuss initiation norms.

Body Count Discussion

Chase discloses body count of ~20-21 (thought she meant roster, not lifetime). Had 4-5 simultaneous casual partners. Jess criticizes the concept of a roster. Chase defends experimentation. Daria and others share perspectives on casual sex norms.

Toby Maguire Age-Gap Debate and Amy Rage Quit

Discussion of Toby Maguire (49) dating Lily (20). Amy calls large age-gap men mentally ill / predatory. Brian challenges her position on logical grounds. Andrew Wilson and Mason engage. Extended meta-debate on eye-rolling, respect, and tone-policing. Brian calls Amy "retarded" after she drops her prop. Amy rage-quits at ~2:22:40 despite offers to apologize.

Wage Gap and Equal Pay

Discussion of equal pay for equal work. Chase and Daria struggle to articulate positions. Mason lays out statistics: men work longer hours, take fewer sick days, take harder jobs, work graveyard shifts. General agreement that same-work same-pay is fair; wage gap attributable to occupational choice and hours. Morgan notes women in male-dominated trades can additionally monetize their rarity via TikTok.

Who Should Pay on the First Date

Brian asks each panelist who should pay on a first date. Kylie: whoever asks (acknowledges men initiate ~90% of the time). Chase: 50/50 (only been on 2 formal first dates despite 20+ sexual partners). Hannah: women should offer; if man accepts the offer he is socially inept. Morgan and Daria give various takes. Panel discussion of the asymmetry between initiating and paying.

Bear vs. Man in the Woods

Brian asks whether panelists would rather encounter a random man or a random bear in the woods. Most women choose bear. Andrew Wilson challenges the predictability argument. Hannah and Daria defend bear preference based on past negative experiences with men. Mason argues most men are harmless; bear has only two options (ignore or kill). Hannah challenged by Andrew on how to make fire without tools — she decedes she cannot.

Men's Masculinity and Peter Pan Syndrome

Hannah shares pre-show notes about men avoiding provider/protector roles causing women to become more masculine, creating a cycle. Brian and Andrew engage with the argument. Discussion of fake vs. real masculinity, controlling behavior, and absent fathers.

She Will Not Date a Man Who Cannot Drive Stick

Hannah reveals she kicked a man out of her 1995 manual transmission car when he did not know what the three pedals were. States she will not date a man who cannot drive a stick shift — "I don't want to be more masculine than a man." Andrew confirms his daily car is also a manual transmission.

Therapy Debate

Brian asks whether men's hesitance to go to therapy is toxic masculinity. Kylie says it is culturally imposed. Brian says he is skeptical of talk therapy except for specific issues. Andrew asks whether therapy actually cures anything. Kylie describes managing anxiety via therapy tools. Mason suggests alternative outlets (building things, physical activity). General discussion of therapy as green flag on dating apps.

Toxic Masculinity and Toxic Femininity

Brian asks whether toxic masculinity exists. Most say yes. Brian then asks about toxic femininity — same answer. Wikipedia search shows toxic femininity redirects to internalized misogyny. Kylie explains patriarchy theory and standpoint feminism from her UCSB feminist theory coursework. Panel generally agrees toxic femininity is underreported.

Feminist Theory and the Draft Debate

Extended debate between Kylie, Brian, Mason, and Andrew on whether feminism is about equality or equity. Brian argues feminism fights equality when it would benefit men (cites NOW opposing Florida's 50/50 custody presumption). Draft question: Kylie agrees women should probably be drafted for equality but hedges on equity framing. Hannah clearly states women should be drafted. Mason argues men and women are intrinsically different so equality of outcome is impossible. Andrew leaves at ~7:53:47.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasthat's like supporting the like women never do well this actually brings us we haven't had the bullet conversation in a while oh no oh

Brian Atlasboy so truthfully look I think that maybe I should ask the question first don't explain it don't explain it okay do you think a man should be

Brian Atlaswilling to take a bullet for his girl oh how like would he better would he be a little [ __ ] if he wasn't

Kylie Hansenwilling to protect his girl I think it depends at the level of connection if it's like soulmate level like your ride or die probably yes but also given that I

Kylie Hansenfeel like it should go for the woman as well like also yes and like this is completely off topic like completely off topic but like me non- romantically like my little brother and my dad I would

Kylie Hansentake bullets for them you know like I think it it's totally yeah I agree with that yeah it's family though it's family yeah but like even I have like guy friends from home home like I grew up with and I would take bullets for them

Dariayou know okay guy friends is everything okay there's like acquired family and then there's you have your yeah it's like I scw up like they part of my family your thought I think yeah they should yeah

Brian Atlasthe guy should okay what about what about you into the mic she was Len what the guy should the the guy should

Dariatake the bullet for the girl okay what do you think I mean equally but like did he run off cuz then yes of course he's a [ __ ] if he ran off okay all right um if

JessI will he will that basically if I will he will if he will I will like she will she I can't expect him to do something I wouldn't do

Andrew Wilsonif he's the provider then no the provider I hate it doesn't matter then then you're it does matter being

Andrew WilsonProv I do happen to know one person who didn't fact run off and his girl took a bullet for him like that did happen in real time so I guess there are women who will do that well I guess too for me

Morganwhen I say provider I guess I view it from the standpoint I do have a child my child's father is makes more money than I do he has a more steady job than I do

Morganhe's got his [ __ ] together basically more than I do so that makes sense so you should take the bullet then yes that's what I'm saying oh okay what do you think on the bullet thing man the man should take the bullet let them all

Brian Atlasdie no I'm [Laughter] joking look let me if I have to protect myself why are you there in chess you lose if you sacrifice

Brian Atlasthe king to Save the Queen yeah okay first off and obviously Queen Gambit baby the world maps on to chess yes so

Brian Atlasone for one I play chess I'm just saying I'm just saying I don't know why I brought that up by that thing up I do think but there's this thing like if the guy wasn't willing to like protect his

Brian Atlasgirlfriend in a situation to the point that he's either maimed or injured or even to the point of death that he's a little [ __ ] thank you he's a little [ __ ] well I do think he don't do [ __ ] I

Morgando think it comes into a different stance when there's children involved though let me tell you something no but in that moment you can't even like let me tell you something here's what I think right all right you think you think the guy you think the people say

Brian Atlasoh he wouldn't be an alpha male he would be a beta male yep he'd be a little beta [ __ ] if he wasn't willing to take the bullet but cuz if I hold on hold on

Brian Atlaswouldn't it be the most Alpha Sigma gigachad move go for you to for the man to survive and just find some other chick and then let her and just let her

Brian Atlasthat's the most gangst that's the alpha male that's alpha male I mean yeah you're going to sacrifice the woman so you can survive and just go find another the woman okay your Reas your reasoning is a little

Morganarler but Mak sense I will say if you have children and if the man is the prime provider the main provider then yeah he should be the one to live cuz

Jesshe's going to be the one continuing to provide you say okay can I say with you saying that that if he's the main provider then why then there should be no argument of like pay Gap or whatever because then why does he have to die

Hannahbecause he% 100% Brian you're wrong well I'm wrong for me that's kind of where my other argument was going into like why do you I'll tell you my viewpoint um Christ

Brian Atlasdied for the church and men are supposed to love their that's a religious argument what if you were an atheist okay so this this is what I have this is what I have for AR your argument is just dismissed immediately love is about sacrifice sit there and you want a woman

Hannahyou prot nobody wants a beta male no want if a woman has to sit there and protect herself why are you even there why does she even want you I do agree with that to an extent but I still feel like it

Morganmakes for me at least in my opinion and you could totally change my opinion on this if if you have the reasoning for it I'm not sitting here saying I'm right you're wrong but for me how I view it like I said again is if mind you I'm not

Morganwith my child's father but if my child's father is going to be more equipped to provide for our child why would I say oh well just because I'm a woman I should be the one to

Morganlive if he could give him a better life and he can provide for him in a more a more for a situation in a better way where he can have more things that he needs and he can provide more for him then yeah I would I would want his dad

Morganto be the one I think that having a bunch of beta men is why we are where we are in no don't get me wrong I I totally agree I totally agree I'm just saying I think there are certain situations especially when children are involved that's absolutely right that's the thing

Brian Atlasthat that's my main point on that is when children are involved yes the man is any doesn't matter at any point at any point before children before

Brian Atlaschildren she's got to go after children still she has to go what everybody should just carry equal providers it doesn't even no I could be hold on no no

Brian Atlasno I'm really messing with you even if even if I'm a [ __ ] lazy POS and I'm staying at home and my girl is a [ __ ] G if my girl's a g and she's bringing

Dariahome a mill a year she still takes the bullet you're sitting at home you're losing us now you're sitting at

Dariahome yeah while I'm sitting at home yeah that's that's Dy I'm protecting you for all right he said back that all right

Dariaall right I've never I've never heard you have that kind of opinion but okay I have hey bro my I got to I got to explore all

HannahI'll just find a new girl Simple Solution just shoot them first what the [ __ ] I'll just you'll never find why are you not caring why are you not caring why do you not have the means to protect

Andrew Wilsonno why aren't you caring carry carry okay fine I got to meia yeah know yeah it is what do you what do you think he's going to do I mean what what are you talking about do

Hannahyou know what it takes to carrying cfor why aren't you carrying well first things first I don't have the right to carry in California but everywhere else yeah yeah but suddenly but Brian's supposed to be carrying this is his

Andrew Wilsonstate that he lives in I can carry I can car isue state oh you're not from California no I'm not from California but I pretty much a shall isue State you're in the Communist capital of the

Andrew WilsonUnited States California they don't let you carry guns in California what are you rolling your eyes for I'm not kidding no I believe you can get your CW here you just believe that you're full of [ __ ] and don't know what the hell

Andrew Wilsonyou're talking about you you could sooner make a million dollars in California then get a concealed carry permit it's next to Impossible the show cause that you have to do in California is insane yeah then leave the state no

Andrew Wilsonmy neighbor has one okay but that's a totally separate conversation how does that how does that help your argument why aren't you carrying in a state you're not allowed to carry in Brian oh well then I guess you should leave the state okay with genius logic you should

Andrew Wilsonturn the B forward maybe it'll you maybe turn it into a thinking cap turn around come on let's see it let's see the front of it I know how to think you think I know how to think also I I think you don't know how to think I just want to

Andrew Wilsonadd all we do have hang on there's a propeller there's a little propeller hat that Bri King oh yeah the little it does help people think sometimes I asked him if I could wear one of the special hats

Andrew Wilsonhe said no that is true that is one of the special hats really true a special hat for a special person said that he said he couldn't wear the special hat yeah he said he could she want she wanted to wear one of the pickle hobas

Brian Atlaslike I was not talking about what we want to wear what about the propeller hat what the [ __ ] look okay my body my choice if you okay can condition if I don't want to

Morgantake the bullet I shouldn't have to I mean yeah that's valid but I VI that works well Place sure oh my gosh okay I do have

Brian Atlasactually a topic that maybe we don't need switching topic I wanted I wanted to hear a little more from you from you on this you had a little push back we won't linger long on it though so what's your push back I guess on the carry yeah

Hannahon the carrying or on the bullet thing oh yeah I I believe that men should protect women and that's why we are where we are is because men aren't being men they're being little [ __ ]

Hannahboys if you want a woman you got to treat her like a woman if you want a boss babe then you treat her like a boss babe but you're not going to be a boss Bab B and be like a feminine submissive woman like what you're looking for you're going to throw you're going

Hannahto throw your little your little submissive feminine Bo woman in front of a bullet for you the only woman who's going to sit there and bow to you you're going to throw her in front of a bullet I'll find another one hang on hang on if

Dariashe's submissive and she's going to Bow then I mean can I like can I do how rare is that do a fact check like is it like

Dariaum what's the fact check isn't it like a the uh test testosterone levels in men have just decreased like because o all the plastic material from makeup

Brian Atlasproducts so why has to us getting in our balls it's because all of the masculine men are taking bullets for all of these women and we're still as ferle as ever do eating the same listen there's too

Brian Atlasmuch plastics it's turning the Frog something I like this I like this it means it means there too much plastic they did you guys hear about this there's plast they there's plastic in every we're not talking about it I'm not

Brian Atlastalking about it we not talking about it wait we can't talk about the plastic and men's balls can't talk about it you can't talk about it wait why can't you talk about plastic and men's balls is does this to youal information wait just hide it in OBS

Andrew Wilsonfirst hello what happening right now what is going on nice wait Andrew we can't talk about the plastic medical talk what oh that's an issue how is that

Andrew Wilsonfalls under falls under the um to for conspiracy theories jeez wait really we're conspiracy wait but was I right about the testosterone thing no micr

Mason Gregoiremicroplastics are like that's legit proven yeah I had a I'm telling you is it actually hold on this not the first time a medical thing has been frowned

Dariaupon on YouTube debunk mine first hell but there are microplastics in the environment I thought everything you eat matter true what about the testeral

Brian Atlasthing wait but this has been reality does not matter on YouTube but this was reported in in like left leaning organizations NPR the guardian uh so it's not like some Fringe it's been

Andrew Wilsonreported on unless you tie it into its turning the frogs blank yes oh that's a joke though it does you okay well I mean joke it's your own risk can you answer

Brian Atlasmy question okay I just want to move I don't know about the frogs I don't know about the [ __ ] frog my test I'm just curious there was an NPR article wait Andrew just speaking about it

Brian Atlasindividually I think that's fine oh come on Andrew you just what you got some plastic in your balls that's why you don't want to talk about it do it is this a s all

Dariaright all right I'll I'll just take your Andrew please let him answer this one first though the the testosterone levels like being lower throughout the years yeah they're they're dropping I yeah that's true testosterone's been dropping

Andrew Wilsonsince it's since we've been recording it anyway but they estimate that there may be somewhere between four to8 times as much testosterone uh just 100 years ago

Morganas men in their 20s have now I have a question for Andrew I feel like he might know it better because it's a topic you bring up a lot and I think you might

Morganactually be wrong on it and I'm willing to be corrected is when it comes to the whole basically if women have the right

Morganto to not be involved type thing when you bring that up this is an argument I make but go ahead yeah no that's what I'm saying it's an argument you make I'm saying I think you might be wrong on it I don't know for sure but I think you

Morganmight be wrong on something that you bring up a lot cuz you say basically that okay well women have the right to do what they want and men don't have the right to make the decision to not be

Morganinvolved like with correct me if I'm wrong cuz I feel like Andrew might know this and and it might be a state- tostate thing I don't know this is a genuine question this isn't me okay so so so let's back up real quick let's let

Morganher finish well but basically what I'm saying is it could like I said it could be a state tostate

Morganbasis um possible for a man let's say like I get pregnant and [ __ ] is going it's by Brian Brian doesn't want to be involved he has the legal right to say

Morganyou know what I want to sign my rights away hand on your own are you ovulating I

Morganum uh wait it's okay uh like sorry sorry just rest your you had said basically in the past that women have the right to do what they want to keep it simple and men

Morgandon't yep and but I'm saying I it could be a state B like based on what state you live in but I'm pretty sure that you do men do have the right to sign away

Brian Atlastheir rights it I okay so you're wrong so um to put it bluntly so no no no I'm fine with being wrong I'm just I'm asking I'm asking in in absolutely no state in the in the US I'm not even

Brian Atlasaware of any country anywhere where there where this is actually possible although I'm not privy to the child support laws in you know the various countries but I'm not aware of anything

Brian Atlasthat would be like affirmative as far as it comes to uh men's ability to relinquish or relinquish responsibility so at least within the United States there's no state where a man can say

Brian Atlaswell I knocked up a girl she's going to keep the child she's Desir of having child support I can evade my responsibility she ages if she agrees

Andrew Wilsonactually that's a different but wait that's a different argument here no no no I'm just saying in I'm not I'm not AR I'm not even arguing the point I'm just asking know but what I'm saying is that when you're when you're giving the

Andrew Wilsonposition you're giving the incorrect position that Brian holds so Brian's position is if women are allowed to have abortions and can terminate their parental rights whenever then men should

Andrew Wilsonshould be able to give up their parental rights if women are allowed to do this without their consent basically okay yeah that's the argument so without consent because women can have abortions

Andrew Wilsonwithout consent of the man right right so even if it were true that if a woman consented a man would be discharged from parental responsibility touch the court

Morganokay that's people are saying it ultimately wouldn't matter no yeah cuz cuz I was going to say there's it could be my knee is it my knee is it like not

Morganfair that like what if like the man does not want to have the child and the woman still has it is that like the only reason I even that kind of came into my mind recently was because there is a

Morgangirl I know personally I'm not going to get too much into it cuz I don't want to air out her dirty laundry but where the father didn't want to be involved and he was like

Morgan,000 basically in debt due to child support and he ended up signning away his rights and she agreed to it and now he has basically no rights to that child at all he doesn't have to pay anything

Andrew Wilsonhe doesn't ow there can be custody Arrangements which are agreed to by both parties where the father is discharged from this type of responsibility but the court can also rule against that at any time okay yeah so what I was going to

Brian Atlassay so they can come I would suspect this was maybe it was Court approved but this sort of arrangement could have just been determined between the two parents

Brian Atlasyes yes but but she could then go to the court and say I need child support and just reel him right back in so in the United States reopen the case and I will

Morgansay I I will say at that point they can take away your driver's license they can start taking away your paycheck and so no I I do get that portion of it I just wasn't sure necessarily if you if your

Andrew Wilsonstance was men don't have any option at all they don't he's speaking argument that he's speaking to is this

Andrew Wilsonhe's looking for if women actually care about fairness or don't okay and so the question is just this if a woman without

Andrew Wilsonthe consent of the father can abort the child this gives her incredible leverage over a pregnancy that a man does not have where she can discharge her parental rights at any time regardless

Andrew Wilsonof what he wants yes but a man can't do the same thing lower his audio so so if you were to allow every single woman in the United States to have abortions on

Andrew Wilsondemand Brian's position is that it seems fair to him that then men should be able to then discharge any parental rights they want on demand as well okay okay

Brian Atlasright but so I mean to actually answer your question in no State can a man um do that on his own you can with the

Brian Atlaswoman's Grace yeah you know if you come to some out of court arrangement given moment she could say go to the

Brian Atlascourt go back on it and say I need child support or or even if she doesn't want child support but she applies for some sort of government assistance they're

Brian Atlasgoing to check out they're going to go after him despite even the woman's wishes and go after if she needs to go on government support food stamps whatever it is I looked into that at one point when you collect child support

Morganfrom your well yeah I do yeah I do well that's the thing is when I initially went to cuz I initially looked through the government yeah but then they wanted all of his information and that's where I got kind of uncomfortable with it because I was like I know they're going

Morganto take ton of his money because he makes good money um so that's when me and him came to a mutual agreement yes so you can you can have any kind of

Brian Atlasarrangement really so long as the in terms of the child support uh so long as the state isn't involved but so I I'm just trying to understand kind of what your no no no no no I was saying I I was

Morganasking cuz personally did not know because mind you I only know my scenario so I didn't know if it was a like I said a state to state thing where it was like certain States you could certain States

Brian Atlasyou couldn't I that that was my question that was it there's absolutely no state where uh a man could just willy-nilly say I'm just going to choose not to pay like if the woman's desirous of it or the state wants to get involved they're

Brian Atlasgoing to be able to go after it the man has absolutely no say okay uh 18 years he's going to be compelled to in one way or another make child support payments um and then I think the other in addition to that not only is there

Brian Atlasnot currently any laws there in all likelihood will never be such laws that would uh allow men to

Morganrelinquish any sort of uh responsibility okay in the same way my only thing was it wasn't me like trying to debate you even necessarily it was more of like a question thing because I was like I based off that one scenario I did know

Morganabout with some I knew I was like hey well is he wrong then can you do it based on where you live like or is it just like an agreement thing um no there's no State there's no state where it's there's any sort of law or anything

Brian Atlasthat would allow a man the typical terminology is legal paternal surrender so essentially the man would say um I'm relinquishing all responsibility yeah and All rights to the child but he could still have it come back to Biden

Brian Atlasbasically you're saying no I'm saying that's not even the thing doesn't exist it doesn't exist oh okay okay uh moving on moving on I got more notes I need to get through we have Mars here right or

Brian Atlaswhat do you what's your actual name Mars is fine oh Mars okay you said you dated an alcoholic racist and that was our L huh oh I'm fine with we can bring it back

Brian Atlasup uh and you're you said you're Puerto Rican yeah so that was interesting yeah the alcoholic part or the racist part both of them both okay yeah um you also

Brian Atlassaid uh you wanted to talk why do men not know how to act properly oh I think I sent you a really really long message well you said they lack in basic

Brian Atlasmanners maybe I'm just too old school They harass you for a date when they these are old notes get one they don't talk or they're rude to you they just get drunk and I'm sure it's semi- specific yeah know the men of my are are terrible you had an issue with my big

Brian Atlaslab of matter that was a joke rude you're welcome uh modern dating is terrible people assume dating in sex is synonymous and it's abysmal yes uh you oh okay here's a new one you

Brian Atlassaid that I'm actually before we get into that going around the table if you were alone in a forest oh no man would you rather come across a

Kylie Hansenrandom man or a random bear a random man or a random Bear yes this is a very good question great question I love that you've LED this right now give me one

Dariasecond cuz I do want to consider my options um thank you thank you she wants to know what kind of bear is it like a black bear cuz like if it's brown you don't know if it's brown

Brian Atlasyou lay down it could be a bear you fight back up for this I have my answer now so so the question is would you rather come across a random man or random or a random bear could be a polar

Kylie Hansenbear could be a brown bear don't know what you're getting guys quiet back there please okay this is really tricky cuz it does depend on the bear but you said random bear so I'm it depends on the man too you're right

Kylie Hansenabout that so I'm saying random man or random Paar oh dude take my chance it could be Bill n it could be hold on let's let her answer let's let her answer I think random man because then I

Kylie Hansenwould at least be able to communicate with him verbally Bears don't speak English that is true that is true so I think that I would choose the random man because then at least I could communicate I could reason they speak

Mason Gregoiresomething besides English do but I'm not actually fluent in Bear contrary to popularly belief I'm not do they do bears speak in bear I think they growl

Mason Gregoirethey're like they express either extreme anger or satisfaction I have not studied um bear speak so I'll choose the random

Andrew Wilsonman okay I I I don't think anybody studied bear speak indeed be honest with you I believe I answered this last time but I would choose a man yeah a bear bear man

Brian Atlasalways man you'd pick the bear uh and I do want to wait until she's back to uh get into it so bear

Brian Atlasbear gone she's gone I'll wait I'm going to just pause the convo temporarily Morgan can I have you read a couple chats here yeah you disclose the deal with your next day you're going to her

Morgan (off-panel)place she turns the lights on and you see her bookcase on the wall what books do you see that that make you turn and leave immediately scum

Brian AtlasManifesto by uh Valerie salano or some [ __ ] white fragility o that's a good one

Brian Atlasum what's B mine comp yeah definitely that one um what's the book from by Carl

Brian AtlasMarx anything Gary Bishop as a The Communist Manifesto The Communist Manifesto let's see here believes in capitalism God Kylie are you a

Brian Atlascapitalist uh I feel like in America I don't really have a choice you don't have a choice oh we live in a capitalist Society what can I say well would you prefer it to be a different economic

Kylie Hansenmodel um I think that in theory capitalism should work I think that um in order for it to work though you need more social Provisions I just don't think we have that right now obviously I

Kylie Hansenfeel like that's pretty self-explanatory but in an Ideal World then yes but in an Ideal World yes you would want what communism that no no no you misread

Kylie Hansenme completely there capalm I think that capitalism with the adequate social Provisions should be enough to function I think right now in the US it's not unfortunately yeah well I think that's a

Mason Gregoiremischaracterization of what we have in the US I think it's because we've tried to Institute certain social incentives that our capitalism is all messed up go to the back if you're going to e okay we can't have it at the

Mason Gregoiretable go ahead sorry I just people are complaining in the chat no I think it's because we have all of these social incentives like the government trying to pay for school the government trying to pay for medical the government trying to

Mason Gregoirepay for all this other stuff Jacks prices up so we don't really have a capitalist Society we don't really have a free market Society because uh big

Mason Gregoirebusinesses that suck at their job are just bailed out by the government because they're too big to fail whereas if it was actually capitalist if it was actually free market they would just be allowed to fail and then good companies

Mason Gregoirewould be able to rise to the top but we have lobbying groups we have all of this inappropriate power that's being levied Upon Our free market system that makes

Kylie Hansenit not so capitalist no I I agree with your point that we don't I feel like when I say we live in a capital Society I'm referring to the fact that the US the ideology in the US is a is

Mason Gregoirecapitalism that's more so what I'm referring to I think you could probably agree on that um but yeah I agree there's never been a truly capitalist Society there hasn't I could agree that most of the people want a capitalist

Mason GregoireSociety uh because that's throughout history that's proven to be the best way to lift a country from nothing to something yeah I think when you talk about social Provisions too I agree with

Kylie Hansenyour point that the government shouldn't be helping like failing this stuff like that I think that there are a lot more like basic urgent needs that need to be addressed before that I do have to move

Morgan (off-panel)things ongan can I do I I I I want to get into this but okay here let me have her read it let me have her read this and then you guys can get into it for a bit what is this if they will I will

Morgan (off-panel)bullet bullet logic one person takes the bullet to Dave the other you going to let your man take the shot then jump on his dead body and get yourself merked too idiots

Andrew Wilsonall right thank you Nickelodeon uh if you guys want you can have a brief exchange well yeah I was just I was just curious if we could go through some of this so what basic needs are you talking about I'm talking about like addressing

Kylie Hansenhomelessness in the US I would say like bipartisan climate Solutions I would say those are just the two at the top of my head right now um climate change is

Andrew Wilsongoing to help who what so hang on hang on let's back up hang on hang on let me finish answering the question or asking the question so you're talking about

Kylie Hansenclimate change who is this going to help who the climate change Provisions who is it going to help specifically well scientific data and peer-reviewed Studies have already

Kylie Hansenproven that we are seeing the effects of climate change so it would help us currently but increasingly so future Generations I'm talking about almost like a preservation matter at this point

Kylie Hansenso who would it help right now right now it would help us do you see the amount of natural disasters that are occurring at rates that we've never seen before the amount of people dying from heat

Andrew Wilsonwaves it's on the rise less people dying from heat waves and have ever died in heat waves in history that's for sure because we have these cool things called air conditioners but besides that

Andrew Wilsonthere's this other awesome fact which is that no the uh the climate change crisis is a complete madeup Fiasco it's nonsensical and uh the data models are

Andrew Wilsonso overtly complex that it's essentially possible for you to draw adequate conclusions from them as it turns out climate's really complicated MH isn't

Andrew Wilsonthat amazing super complicated but I'm going to let that go for a second right I just want to know if you were the queen of the United States and you can

Kylie Hansenhave your perfect climate policy instituted whatever that is who would it help right now who would it help right now um okay well first of all I don't

Kylie Hansenthink I would ever want to be Queen of the United States let me start that I'm just prefacing I would say that if I were to implement bipartisan climate Solutions right now it would mostly focus on Shifting the labor markets over

Kylie Hansento sustainable energy so I would say right now who it would help is in my perfect world as the queen of the United States it would help people who are currently working in the gas industry

Kylie Hansenand fossil fuels I would say that you mean those people all have jobs yes but in my how how would it help them I would like to continue my thought without any

Andrew Wilsoninterruptions yeah I'm sure that you would but I don't want you to prattle I want to go point point by Point how would it actually help people in the gas industry who are working for the gas

Kylie Hansenindustry I'm saying that in my bipartisan climate solution that I would Implement theoretically that it would shift our industry from being fossil

Kylie Hansenfuel dominant over to SU able energy and it would first and foremost focus on projecting the jobs of those who are in those Industries right now that's all I'm saying those people who are in those

Andrew WilsonIndustries right now already have jobs how would this help them you asked me to answer a question on a hypothetical situ okay and then what was the question I as okay hang on hang on what was the actual

Kylie Hansenquestion I asked you just repeat it back to me if you don't mind if you were the queen of the US who would you who would your polic yeah we've we've got a little off topic

Kylie HansenBrian um if I were the queen of the US right now um who would my climate policies help right now

Kylie Hansenright so who would they help right now how would it help people have jobs to have jobs I think that the US systemically is so dependent on fossil fuels that I

Kylie Hansendon't think that you can from my point of view and you don't have to agree with this I'm not trying to force you to agree with me I think that because our economy is so dependent on fossil

Kylie Hansenfuels that implementing like a sustainable policy like this it wouldn't benefit anyone right now I I think I agree with your point on that I'm talking about long-term Solutions that's

Andrew Wilsonmore so my perspective here yeah so it wouldn't help a single person right now so if you were the queen of the United States you would Implement policies which wouldn't help a single [ __ ] person right now I think also you're

Andrew Wilsonignoring that sometimes in politics it's not just about policies helping people shortterm that you're trying to create long-term systemic impact great okay well let's get into that so you brought

Andrew Wilsonup the homeless uh crisis in the United States I'm not sure it's a crisis but the homeless problem you're the queen of the United States same thing how would you solve the problem of the homeless in

Kylie Hansenthe United States even with a long-term solution are you asking me a 21-year-old College student to solve us homelessness right now yes can you vote Yes but I you're damn right I'm

Andrew Wilsonasking you the question you got it Kylie I am a political s i I believe in you I love my for I'm sorry I'm sorry hang on Kylie Kylie are you are you allowed to vote Yes I am

Kylie Hansenallowed to vote then yeah I'm asking you the question that's right I want to De clim this question and it's because I do not I'm going to be honest

Kylie HansenI truly don't think I'm equipped to solve us homelessness crazy are are you going to be voting this year I will be voting but I do have and you're going to vote for Biden right public office ever

Brian Atlasyou're going to be voting for Biden right decline the question yeah you're going to be voting for Biden though you know what actually Andrew I did speak to her before the show she said she's voting for Kanye I almost wor my ran you

Kylie Hansenweren't supposed to talk she's voting for Kanye Andrew I'm sorry to ruin it Andrew respectfully declin but I do appreciate you asking me about politics I okay well let me ask you a different

Kylie Hansenquestion uh if you could have voted in the last election who would you have voted for this is a very tricky question for me to answer just because currently I do

Kylie Hansennot agree with a lot of Biden's policies sure but if you could have in the last election who would you have voted for I will say that given my knowledge at the

Kylie Hansentime in 20 in during the 2020 election I would have voted for Biden right do I feel more apprehension voting for Biden now after seeing his first presidential

Kylie Hansenterm of course I do I think a lot of people do his approval rates are down Trump's currently ahead in the polls he'll still for I think of course but like I think all right let's not dog pile let's

Andrew Wilsonnot dog pile but well there's no there's no dog pile I just I just wanted a quick answer to this I had a feeling that it would have been Biden if you could have voted last time but he understand why

Andrew Wilsonum the reason that I ask these questions right and you say if you use the cop out well I'm just 21 years old it's like okay but you can cancel my vote you can

Andrew Wilsonyou can cancel my vote what and that is it's sickening to me that a person who who we if we move into a political discussion right and it's not even anything against you I just don't think

Andrew Wilsonthat 21 year olds are smart enough to [ __ ] vote that you can ask them a question and they they're like I don't know I'm only 21 it's like well then why are you you [ __ ] voting can I ask you a quick question uhoh sure what would

Andrew Wilsonyou do to solve us homelessness what would you do I would reopen mental institutions public mental institutions and put most of them in there because that's what most of them are is mentally ill and they're homeless by choice most

Kylie Hansenhomeless people are homeless by choice uh or due to severe mental illness would you also Implement policies to ensure the continuity of care once these people were out of the mental institution we already had such policies and [ __ ]

Andrew WilsonDemocrats destroy at all the passive aggressive [ __ ] ass Democrats with their bleeding hearts decided that they were going to tear down the public mental institutions the reason that they

Andrew Wilsondid it is because they sent a a reporter went in to one and found signs of abuse in one institution and so they tore the entire thing down that's why you have

Andrew Wilsonhomeless people [ __ ] on the sidewalks in San Francisco and why you have them [ __ ] on the sidewalks in Miami why you have needles all over the place is because these are literally

Kylie Hansenmentally ill people and you can't do anything with them nothing I actually do agree with your point that we do need more federally funded mental health care for people who can't afford it otherwise I will say that is a very valid point I

Andrew Wilsonagree with that that's how you solve the problem yes I and you know what else you do you take the VA you take the VA and every single veteran you make them tax exempt for life you make them tax exempt

Andrew Wilsonfor Life period and you give them the finest care possible and the way that you do that is you divert all of these pro- drug policies and the enforcement arm of the pro drug policies and you

Andrew Wilsonhand it over to the veterans that's what you do that's how you solve that problem and you make sure that they get the mental health care that they need and the ones who are not veterans who are sitting in the streets and taking a [ __ ] you lock them in mental institutions

Kylie Hansenwhere they belong I say I agree that's awesome with your point that we do need better care for veterans I think that there's needed to be I think the US Healthcare System

Brian Atlassystem is just I doy I do have to move things on a little bit but that was a great back in forth between you two I don't know how the envir we were we had

Brian Atlashomeless we had environmental issues we had oil and gas it was good getting all the topics in it was good really quick on that you you're an environmentalist um I care about the environment or

Kylie Hansensomething say that if I have to put a label on it I feel like the only way that we're going to reach systemic change is by Collective action so I'm not an environmentalist per se I'm someone who advocates for bipartisan

Kylie Hansenclimate Solutions and when you say Collective action do you mean like on an individual level like we shouldn't be using plastic straw like plastic what I mean by that is a broader concept so I'm talking about the diffusion of

Kylie Hanseninnovation Theory so essentially it states that you have early adopters right it's a small percentage of people and in order to create a new social convention which is when the majority of

Kylie Hansensociety adopts a new idea and it becomes just like Tau practice it's passed along through generations and it becomes a part of societal institutions you need at least 50% of the population to

Kylie Hansenembrace this new convention so what what would be I mean are you looking on the individual level that people need to make changes I think that people individually should be making changes I don't think it's the responsibility of

Kylie Hansenthe individuals I will say caveat to that I think that it will be taking the work of individuals and also larger corporations okay so what what is like an action on the IND idual level that we

Brian Atlasshould be doing to uh lessen the impact on the environment and climate like single use Plastics with I actually really appreciate you asking this question this is I think this is

Kylie Hansensomething that I personally do and it's such an easy fix all I do is I wash my clothes on cold water it's such an easy quick that you can make and it's environmentally friendly it takes so much unnecessary energy in order to heat

Kylie Hansenthe water to go to your laundry room I want all everyone at this single table start washing your clothes with cold water it's just as effective Studies have shown that it's just as effective C it better yeah and it cleans it better

Kylie Hansenand it it also it gets the stains out faster and it also will your colors won't fade your clothes will stay nice you won't have to buy clothes as often because they're not fading they're not deteriorating as quickly and it's such

Kylie Hansenan easy quick F so what about like plastic usage plastic usage I will say okay it's very very hard to undercut plastic usage just because literally everything comes in a plastic container right so I'd say it's just like tiny

Kylie Hansenstep when I go to the grocery store I try to bring like reusable produce bags and I try to bring my own bags sometimes I forget I'm human I'm not going to beat myself up over that and I don't think

Kylie Hansenany of us should be like holding ourselves to these impossible standards but I think there are like little things that you can take that do make a difference do you see do you see this

Brian Atlasput it back on other angle n really quick back to the other angle yeah you guys see this bottle so I have a dating story oh let's hear it let's hear it face off a water bottle this was 3 4

Brian Atlasyears ago I don't remember exactly 3 4 years ago I was on a date with a girl I brought this not this exact bottle but it used to actually it used to be called it used to be called Poland Spring but

Brian Atlasthey rebranded in any case I brought a water ball just like this onto a first date with a girl and the date was actually going well we were bantering I don't think it was a perfect fit but at the end of the date as we were about to

Brian Atlasleave and uh she made a statement about you shouldn't this was this was one of the most peculiar things I've had happen happen

Brian Atlason the date she went on this rant like she was upset at me for having brought a plastic water I'm not making this up I swear this happened she's got a flask

Brian Atlashuh no I believe you I like that and she was kind of eyeing it the whole time and she's like Brian you shouldn't have brought a uh a plastic water it's so

Brian Atlaswasteful why don't you buy yeah and I was wondering to myself if that was the reason why the whole date she was a little bit on edge because I brought a plastic water ball and she her

Brian Atlastone when she confronted me on this mind you the date was pretty much over she was like last thing you know one last I just before we go want to tell you this

Brian Atlasum God I wish I recorded that oh my God that would been okay content okay anyways what where was I oh okay yeah she said f you in your plastic water

Brian Atlasbottle she was mad at you for having the plastic water bottle yeah so I I mean and so I actually reversed it on her and I was like well what kind of car do you drive how often do you take vacations I know that you're wearing makeup that

Brian Atlascomes in plastic containers would you be willing to cease your makeup usage for the betterment of the environment so I guess my question kind of jumping off the off of that

Brian Atlasis is that a would you be willing to make a commitment right now if we're M if if I'm willing I I will promise you for all my washes I will only use cold

Kylie Hansenwater if you are willing to stop buying and wearing makeup do you agree well there's actually makeup that you can buy that uses reusable containers see like

Brian Atlaswhen I'm getting makeup I buy refills well okay so so what about the okay so what about the yeah and who is that makeup tested on how do they

Brian Atlastest to make sure it was safe for human consumption okay but so who now this ties into climate change by the way I know it does so the materials that are fine it's in a paper biodegradable

Brian Atlascontainer although I suspect probably most of your makeup isn't but maybe some is so the actual makeup itself is made up of like you know they I heard about this thing called M Mah oh and it's

Brian Atlasfrequently in various I don't know what specifically it's in but Foundation I don't know exactly and uh it's mined essentially by child labor and you know

Brian Atlasthen you obviously have to transport these raw materials and then once the this makeup is manufactured in some other country a lot of these makeup products are not manufactured in the

Brian AtlasUnited States it then has to be shipped across the sea and then you know they're burning bunker fuel in these cargo ships which is Inc which is fairly uh toxic

Brian Atlasfairly bad to the environment so I guess would you be willing to I suppose there are some makeup products that are less impactful than others but ultimately there's still an impact so if I'm willing to prep if I'm prepared to say

Brian Atlasokay I'll start washing with water will you commit right now to no longer wear makeup for the rest of your life here's the thing and I'm going to go back to your story about the water bottle I think that you should be able

Kylie Hansento use a your plastic water bottle right if I was that girl I don't think I would have shunned you like that I buy plastic water bottles every now and then but you know what I do instead I reuse them I'll refill them with water later in case I

Kylie Hansendon't have a water bottle I'll recycle them I'll do what I can right it's not about fully committing it's about making the swaps when you can when I ask you to when no here's my logic behind it when I

Kylie Hansenask you you should when I tell you you should be washing your clothes with only cold water mhm does that make a difference in your life does that subtract anything from your life or is that just you flipping a switch on the

Brian Atlaswasher pressing start and nothing in your life changes no it doesn't I'm not sure um I would have to look into there could be an argument that could be made I'm not familiar I haven't researched

Brian Atlasarguments when it comes to uh laundry but there could be couldn't there be some like hold on let me finish couldn't there be some argument that I can't

Brian Atlasbelieve I'm arguing this that that washing things at a higher heat has a better uh cleansing like um what's the word like if there's bacteria or something it has a bigger impact there

Kylie Hansensaying I get what you're saying yeah because hot water has been proven to kill germs better that's in terms of dishes that's with your saliva everything like that well what if your clothes are soiled are you soiling your

Andrew Wilsonclothes often no but I'm just for the sake of argument I mean I guess in that instance yes I would have you ever seen skid marks here's the thing I mean I use baby you just you just work you could just

Brian Atlaswork in a farm or something like this and have soiled clothes right I mean wait but okay so um fine yeah it'd

Kylie Hansenbe a very simple change but like I guess what utility does wearing makeup serve what utility does wear like what's the actual utility I like doing it I have a good time with it and I don't wear it most

Kylie Hansendays I would say that I wear it every now and then a lot of days I'm just too lazy and like it's not and if anyone wears it every single day that's nothing against like I'm fine with that too if

Kylie Hansenno one decides to wear it individual Choice what my argument here is that I make so swaps for the climate in ways that are just like easy I don't even have to think about it but I'm not

Kylie Hansenholding myself to this crazy standard and I would never hold anyone else to this where like you have to do everything environmentally friendly cuz I think you're going to kill yourself trying just do that like you're it's too much to expect you're only human like I

Kylie Hansenwouldn't expect you to do everything perfectly you know what I mean like that's my logic with it is like you make the swaps when you can but I'm not asking you to only use cold water if

Kylie Hansenyour argument about the soiling I think that's a great point that you raised if you so happen [ __ ] your pants be my guest use hot water on your clothes should you use cold water when you can yeah probably but I'm fine with

Brian Atlasthat fine with that no but I'm just saying you you okay so I guess what where I'm trying to get at you made a call to action you're like hey everybody at the table start washing your clothes

Brian Atlaswith cold water yes and I'm making a call to action to you to make your own commitment to make your own commitment

Kylie Hansento no longer wearing makeup are you willing to accept this call to action I will say that I will stop wearing I'm going to do better research and I'm going to use makeup that has better

Kylie Hansenenvironmental benefits so there's makeup that you can get that's like refills of tint so you're not buying the packaging every single time there's makeup with more eco-friendly packaging makeup that's ethically sourced I will make

Mason Gregoirethat commitment Brian yeah so I actually I I really I do appreciate uh you wanting to make these changes I think that's awesome I think if you as as a person want to make those appeals to

Mason Gregoireother people that's great the issue I come across with generally when this conversation comes up is when it's legislated by the government so when it's legislated by

Mason Gregoirethe government it's regardless of any data regardless of any personal beliefs regardless of what you think about the subject we are mandating that you make this change I think that's extremely

Dariadangerous can you put it's what you going to say but if it's for the better of like having living on the planet

Mason Gregoirelonger well so to Andrew's point the climate is an extremely complicated piece of uh you could say ma Machinery

Andrew Wilsonthere's so many complex parts to it so many moving pieces actually since uh and their models are always wrong models are always foret the models are always wrong

Andrew Wilsonevery single time the predictions are false every single time I have absolutely for 100% climate change from my perspective it's not the official uh

Andrew Wilsonwhatever podcast dance it's just Andrew Wilson's perspective it's a total [ __ ] scam it's a cash scam grab it's a grab and go scam designed specifically

Andrew Wilsonfor a bunch of politicians and lobbyists to pass climate change legislation so that giant megala corporations can do a half cash grab that's exactly what's

Andrew Wilsonbeen going on since the 1980s back in the' 60s and 7s they were saying global cooling is coming to destroy us all Leonard nemoy did an entire video about

Andrew Wilsonit it was fantastically stupid then it's fantastically stupid now it's a pyramid scheme um all of the predictions have been wrong I can show you prediction after prediction of climate experts

Andrew Wilsonclaiming that within the next two years we'll never be able to bring it back and every single time the predictions are wrong we are not facing any sort of Extinction event due to climate change not even

Mason Gregoireclose let's move this onal quick yeah I mean what were you saying about legislation again so well we're going to move this on I I'll I'm just want to make one more point I mean

Mason Gregoirejust kind of going off of what Andrew's uh explaining like where where's the hole in the ozone layer where's the de deforestation that was uh pedal by a bunch of different lobbying groups

Mason Gregoireactually the the Earth right now has more foliage than it did like 20 years ago by a great deal so I mean we we don't see these these things actually coming to pass they are all the time

TTS / donation readerevery single time they've made a prediction it's going the opposite direction there also resarch anyway donated $200 to the 21y old queen of America for

TTS / donation readera day how much debt do you have in student loans why Isen up and realize that you're being trained to be another mindless Sheep by Boomers who hate America I actually do want to address

Kylie Hansenthis because I really appreciate you raising this point I actually did IB in high school so I came in with 2 years worth of um college credit so I'm graduating a year early and I only have

Kylie Hansenfive grand of student debt and I'm going to be paying that off within um 3 years and then I'm going to go to grad school debt free so thank you for asking about my financial situation thank you walking Rosco appreciate it Morgan can you read

Morgan (off-panel)this one bill NY noted that in the audience lifetime the percentage of the atmosphere that is carbon dioxide The prominent greenhouse gas causing global

Brian Atlaswarming has increased from 0.03% to 0.04% oh boy H okay thank you kfu 20 for the uh tip there appreciate it that's

Brian Atlas0.4% oh no what are we going to do it's over it's over for everybody so to bring it back we were talking about the be thing

Brian Atlasyou were gone you were in the bathroom um doing like a stick and poke tattoo or something yeah get it out of the way would you rather come across a

Brian Atlasrandom man or a random bear in the woods a bear okay so bear bear bear I'd like to hear the reasons why starting

Hannahwith you um okay so first things first Bear's act [ __ ] Bear's act strictly off of instinct so usually if they attack they're probably threatened human beings we have the ability to critically and

Hannahlogically think we also tend to have a moral compass so anything a human does is significantly worse I am much more easily going to forgive a bear for muling a human being than I will a man for hitting a

Hannahwoman I men are more dangerous because we have a moral compass we know it's wrong but people still do it right but this is assuming that in both

Brian Atlasinstances this is doing a comparing a comparison where the man attacks the woman and the bear attacks the woman danger wise this is assuming that in all

Brian Atlasscenarios this woman is going to be attacked again I would rather I would forgive the bear a lot easier then I would forgive the human what does that have anything to do with making a risk

Brian Atlasassessment of which one is more likely to attack you cuz that is essentially what this question begs I guess I don't know you're in the four well hold on let

Brian Atlasme get everybody's justification before I give my take so uh why bear I don't know you're in the forest and like okay people can behave is that's a setting or

Dariaam I wrong so I think I don't know yes you are in the forest but I'm confused whatever I would I'm assuming I'd wouldn't see a bear in

Dariamy house or anything like that like I don't know like if it's more secluded then I would probably buy the bear more I don't know do that I don't know well so if we're going to make considerations

Mason Gregoireif we're making considerations for where we're going to see the bear who are the type of men you're generally going to see in the forest dudes who are just going camping kind of like want to

Mason Gregoireignore Society like they're kind of just chill guys doing bro stuff like if you're going to run across a guy in the forest it's probably going to be a dude that's kind of just a normal guy so if we're going to make those considerations

Chase Carsonfor the bear we should make those considerations for the guy guys why the bear for the past two months I already had my weird creepy not good things with

Chase Carsonmen and I rather trust the Bear right now over men okay so you had bad personal experiences in your own life yes air go you'd rather be in a forest

Mason Gregoirealone with a bear versus a man mhm yes okay Brian I've actually changed my opinion on this do what's your opinion my opinion is I I I totally side with

Mason Gregoirethe bear now because I I will tell you why all right let's hear go the bear is satisfied with a good meal the woman gets to accurately play the victim and

Mason Gregoirethe man has no uh there's no ill will on his side nothing happened he's he's not blamed for any of it I'd rather be everyone wins everyone wins okay so I

Andrew Wilsonthere's a flaw in your logic okay I'd rather be hang on I'll tell you the flaw okay the flaw is is that after all of the bit ing whining and screaming from this woman who was mauled by a bear due

Hannahto her own stupidity some man's going to have to go out there and put the Bear Down fair you're right Andrew but the bear already got me so I just spent the last like 4 days up in keing Canyon in

Hannahseoa and uh yes I was hiking out with bears and I was at a river and I went swimming and there was a bear like 50 yards away it was a mom with her cub they left me alone I left them alone I went swimming in the river I took a nap

Brian Atlason a rock I woke up and they were gone but when you you see a man on a trail you go like you completely ignore them and Dodge them okay so hold on so let's just say you did that right did the man chase

Brian Atlasyou down and then attack you no but you you tend to okay but so you did you took an action like you took an action but it doesn't mean that like nothing happened yeah you ignored him like you but the

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