3x RAGE QUIT! She Did 100 Men In 1 DAY?! 1,000 NEXT?! Lily Phillips! Eva Lovia! | Dating Talk #227

Date: 2025-02-12

Duration: 7h 37m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAya (Idaho/SF)>

CCandace Horbach >

LLily Phillips >

BBecca Slider >

CCarly (SB/LA)>

KKatrina (Ottawa)>

DDanielle (Ontario)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Carly(guest)

SPEAKER_04Danielle(guest)

SPEAKER_05Aya(guest)

SPEAKER_06Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Patrice O'Neal (clip)(audience)

SPEAKER_08TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Katrina(guest)

SPEAKER_12Becca Slider(guest)

SPEAKER_13Lily Phillips(guest)

SPEAKER_14Upgrade(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAya introduces herself: 32yo, from Idaho (homeschooled, Calvinist), lives in SF. Researcher who also does escorting. Was top OnlyFans creator. Charges $4K/hr for escorting.

“all right I am Aya uh I'm 32 years old M uh my location is here but I originally came from Idaho and now I live in SF”

QuoteAya describes her escorting work: charges $4K/hr, met a client at her hotel the night before the show.

“I Char 4K for the first hour and then a th each additional hour okay how many did he just do the one or was he like a baller”

IntroCandace Horbach (Eva Lovia) introduces herself: 35yo, adult industry 2001-2017, now podcaster, based in NC/Austin. Graduated from Coastal Carolina University. Stage name Eva Lovia.

“my name is Candace horbach I'm 35 I was in the adult industry from about 2001 to 2017 um I left I started a podcast”

IntroLily Phillips introduces herself: 23yo from Darbyshire, England. Adult star. Discusses her 101-man-in-a-day challenge (October 2024) and plans to do 1000+ to break the world record (currently 1057 by Bonnie Blue).

“I'm Lily Phillips I am 23 I'm from darbishire in England I live in London um adult star”

QuoteLily Phillips announces her goal to break the world record for most men in a day (the current record is ~1057 by Bonnie Blue). Plans a "conveyor belt" setup.

“yeah H yeah so you're going to do a thousand in a in a day yes I was watching Australian check already do that”

QuoteLily describes upcoming skydiving sex scene project.

“at the end of this month I'm doing a Skydive where I suck a guys Park skydiving sex scene yeah somebody's done that I haven't seen anyone do it”

IntroBecca Slider introduces herself: 43yo confidence coach, speaker, podcaster, top 1% OnlyFans. Was ordained pastor for 10 years. Deconstructed faith ~5-6 years ago.

“I'm Becca slider I'm a confidence coach and a speaker and I host a podcast and then I'm also a 1% Creator on only fans”

IntroCarly introduces herself: 21yo, originally from Santa Barbara, lives in LA, studies marketing, part-time fashion model.

“hi yeah I'm Carly I'm 21 and I'm originally from Santa Barbara actually but I live in LA right now um and I go to college and I also model part-time”

IntroKatrina introduces herself: 35yo bartender from Ottawa, Ontario, high school education.

“my name's Katrina from Ottawa Ontario Canada I'm a bartender since I was 17 I have a high school education”

IntroDanielle introduces herself: 30yo from Elmont, Ontario. Studied addiction and justice studies. Worked for the Government of Canada.

“hi my name is Danielle I am 30 I am from Elmont Ontario uh very small town uh I went to school for addiction um along with Justice studies and police foundations”

IntroUpgrade (returning guest) introduces herself: 22yo singer-songwriter, here for her third song. Sings Etta James "At Last" a cappella.

“hello I'm upgrade this is my second time on the whatever podcast I'm 22 and and I am a singer songwriter”

IntroAndrew Wilson introduces himself: host of The Crucible, political analyst/satirist, engages in debates worldwide. Declines to sing.

“I'm not going to sing a song no sh no my name is now you have now I'm the host of The Crucible to popular entertainment Channel on YouTube I'm a political analyst”

QuoteAya reveals she showers only ~37 times per year (record low 14-17 in 2019) and her 2022 stats spreadsheet tracking all activities.

“showered 37 what uh lowest amount of times you've ever showered in a year uh I think it was like 14 17 I think 17”

QuoteBecca admits to pity sex with her husband while pregnant with third child — "wildly insatiable" during pregnancy.

“yeah yeah when I was pregnant shit you know uh yeah I mean pity but it because when I that sounds really bad when I was pregnant with my third I wanted sex every day it was it was insane”

ControversyAndrew Wilson debates Katrina vigorously about her role "running" a prostitute friend, arguing that acting as a pimp is "unadulterated evil" and parasitical. Katrina defends her intentions as trying to help.

“pimp is so parasitical a literal parasite on society almost as bad as a prostitute herself”

QuoteCandace formally apologizes to Brian for making a video misrepresenting him without doing due diligence, then bows to him (rated B-minus by Brian).

“I'm so sorry that I didn't do my due diligence and I just took the gossip train and then made a video that got a lot of views and misrepresented you and your show”

QuoteBrian shows "bow video" of ex-girlfriend bowing 45 degrees and doing his laundry, cooking dinner after he came home at 1am from a podcast.

“this is a video I took of my ex-girlfriend I came home it was late 1:00 a.m. after a podcast boom huge do you see the bow deep bow that was a 45 degree angle”

ControversyAndrew challenges Lily on the "unconditional parental love" debate — argues that cutting off contact for a child doing porn is not abandonment but maintaining behavioral standards. Goes in circles extensively.

“how about this what if I mean wait that makes wait wait a second that makes no sense so if it is the case they don't want you to do only fans”

QuoteKatrina's notable quote about body count: "if you give sex away for free you might as well get paid for it, ain't nothing worse than a broke ass hoe."

“if you give sex away for free you might as well get paid for it ain't nothing worse than a broke ass hoe in my opinion”

QuoteLily Phillips says her body count is between 500-1000 when asked.

“range what was it last time can't remember what I said last time cuz last time I I still didn't count last time um I'm going to go right now probably between 500 to 1,000”

QuoteAya reveals precise body count breakdown: ~109 unpaid, ~450 paid clients, total ~550.

“uh probably low 500s and 109 free wait 109 free like unpaid unpaid okay how many do you think paid or uh well I have a CRM”

ControversyAndrew challenges Aya and Candace on scientific methodology (controls, sample size) during body count/study discussion. Goes on for over 20 minutes before Brian cuts it.

“studies are all shit you haven't read my studies dude listen yes I have dove into your studies which is how I knew that teenagers were over sampled”

ControversyAndrew tells Candace to use a "sing-song voice" if she wants him to treat her with respect, sarcastically mocking her complaint about his tone being disrespectful. This pushes Candace to her limit.

“from now on when you talk to me I need you to use a sing song voice The singest sest Voice you can possibly think of because otherwise I feel disrespected”

OtherRAGE QUIT #1: Candace Horbach rage quits. Brian confirms "she rage quit." Andrew had pushed her too far with tone/condescension complaints. She said she was going to check on her husband, then left.

“I'm going to go check on her I'll be right back I okay that's fine uh all right she Rage Quit”

OtherRAGE QUIT #3: Becca Slider and others (Aya, possibly others) also leave at same time as Candace. Brian attempts to get Becca back, saying "is Becca coming back?"

“we we got we're wrapping up I'll you Candace we're Candace Candace I think we're done it's so pass for anyway”

OtherRAGE QUIT #2: Andrew Wilson voluntarily departs, citing 3am and the show being almost done. Acknowledges his presence was offensive, says his job is to challenge worldviews.

“I'll I can see that my presence has been very offensive it's 3 o'clock in the morning anyway that's my dip time yeah it was very very nice to meet all of you”

QuotePatrice O'Neal clip played: "If you didn't have a vagina, how would you keep your man?" Guests answer with mouth, hands, other holes, cooking. Brian plays the reveal where Patrice says "you just classified yourself as a series of holes."

“ladies if you didn't have a vagina like say it was a terrible train accident right and the doctor was like we have to remove your pussy right away or you're going to die how how would you keep your man”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions & Background

All 9 guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation, education. Includes Aya (researcher/escort from Idaho), Candace Horbach/Eva Lovia (adult film actress/podcaster), Lily Phillips (viral 101-man adult star), Becca Slider (ex-pastor/confidence coach), Carly (model/student), Katrina (bartender, Ottawa), Danielle (Ontario, addiction studies), Upgrade (singer-songwriter), Andrew Wilson (political analyst remote).

Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares their relationship status, longest relationship, and context. Highlights: Aya (polyamorous 4yr open relationship), Candace (married 15 years, open during her career), Lily (single 3-4 years), Becca (divorced after 21 years, ethically non-monogamous), Carly (5mo single after 5yr relationship ended by cheating), Katrina (8mo relationship), Danielle (2yr relationship), Upgrade (2yr relationship with 41yo man).

Aya Pre-Show Notes: Homeschooling, Sex Work, Data & Polyamory

Brian goes through Aya's pre-show notes: evangelical Calvinist upbringing in Idaho, homeschooled, escaped factory work via adult content. Aya discusses her annual stats spreadsheet, shower frequency (37/year), LSD addiction, Lex Fridman interview, and polyamorous relationship. Debate over subordination of women morphs into semantic debate with Andrew.

Should Men Lead in Relationships? / Subordination Debate

Brian asks whether men should lead/be the "head" in relationships and who should get final say in a marriage impasse. Andrew frames it as a "threshold breaker" question. Most guests say it is circumstantial; Candace and Upgrade favor traditional male leadership. Aya goes full semantic on meaning of "should." Andrew clashes with Aya over philosophical definitions.

Eva Lovia / Candace Pre-Show Notes & OnlyFans Fraud Discussion

Candace discusses her career as Eva Lovia, her disclaimer on OnlyFans (entertainment only, no AI/chatters, to protect against delusional fans). Brian raises concerns about fraud by OnlyFans creators who use chatters/AI while claiming personal interaction. Aya reveals she tried a chatter and income skyrocketed but it made her sad. Discussion of body count stats and body count survey data from Aya's research.

Bear vs. Man Debate

Brian asks the classic "bear or man in the woods" question. Most guests pick bear. Andrew and Brian argue the position is logically equivalent to a racist position if applied to a demographic group, making it sexist. Upgrade says picking bear is sexist but may come from personal experience.

Becca Slider: Ex-Pastor to OnlyFans, "Pussy-Based Confidence"

Becca explains her journey from 10-year ordained evangelical pastor to confidence coach and OnlyFans creator. She discusses "pussy-based confidence" (sexual creative life force), Christian deconstruction, the role of fear in Christianity's foundations, bisexuality since age 16, swinging then open marriage, and her coaching philosophy. Andrew challenges her framework as a form of dogma/programming.

Katrina: Running a Prostitute, Drug World, Show Notes

Brian reads Katrina's pre-show notes: she has two moms, "ran" a prostitute friend (did makeup/calls/driving) as an attempt to help. Andrew debates the ethics of pimping vigorously with Katrina. Katrina describes discovering her "gangster" boyfriend having sex with a male friend (traumatizing experience). She says ain't nothing worse than a broke hoe.

Candace Apology & Bow to Brian

After Brian reveals Candace had made a video misrepresenting him (based on unverified secondhand Special Forces claim), Andrew pushes her to apologize. She eventually does, apologizing for not doing due diligence. Brian then asks her to bow — she does (rated B-minus). Discussion of the "bow video" Brian made of his ex-girlfriend.

Self-Rating Round (1-10, no 7)

Brian asks each guest to rate their own appearance 1-10 (cannot pick 7). Aya: 4.6; Candace: declined/no number; Lily: 8; Becca: 8; Carly: 6; Katrina: 8 (with makeup)/4 (without); Danielle: 6; Upgrade: 6; Andrew: 4-5. Andrew lectures about women lying about their self-assessments in social groups vs. men who call each other out. Long debate with Aya over semantics of "judging."

Lily Phillips Parenting / Sex Work & Unconditional Love Debate

Brian asks Lily whether she would have done OnlyFans if her parents gave an ultimatum. Debate spirals into Andrew challenging whether parents cutting off contact for sex work is "abandoning" the child (Lily's view) vs. maintaining behavioral standards (Andrew's view). Most guests feel unconditional parental love means maintaining contact. Andrew says love can coexist with behavioral standards.

AI Age Progression & Gender Swap Photos

Brian shows AI-generated aged versions of all guests (10+ years older) and gender-swapped versions. Comedic segment; Lily's aged version prompts "crypt keeper" jokes. Guests react to their gender-swapped versions and whether they would date/sleep with the male version of themselves.

Body Count Round & Discussion

Brian asks each guest their body count. Lily: 500-1000; Aya: ~550 (109 unpaid, ~450 paid); Candace: 9 personal + ~12-20 work scenes; Carly: 23-28; Danielle: 8; Katrina: under 35 (excluded coerced encounters); Upgrade: single digit; Andrew: did not give number. Discussion of whether body count matters (Lily: makes you better in bed; Becca: patterns matter more; Candace: 9 personal; most say circumstantial). Aya's survey data shows median ~5, raising to 10 by age 40. Andrew and Candace debate sample size and scientific controls.

All Day Foreplay / Viral Clip Discussion (Candace)

Candace describes her viral Twitter clip about "all-day foreplay" — the idea that women's arousal has more on/off switches (stressors = brakes), and that men following through on commitments reduces stress and improves intimacy. Andrew challenges this, arguing data shows women are most attracted to men who DON'T do chores (traditional masculine non-domestic behavior), that what she's really describing is feminist relationship dynamics. Extended debate about whether follow-through is masculine or if asking men to do chores is attraction-killing.

Rage Quit #1 — Candace & Others Leave

Andrew's confrontational tone throughout the show reaches a breaking point. Candace's husband texts. After hours of debate, Candace says "I'm going to go check on her [wife]" and leaves. Aya stays to wait for roast. Brian says "she rage quit." Carly, Becca and others also start to leave. Brian pleads for them to stay.

Andrew Wilson Rage Quit / Departure

Andrew acknowledges his presence has been offensive and says "it's 3 o'clock in the morning anyway, that's my dip time." Insists he wasn't trying to insult anyone — his job is to challenge worldviews. Lily tells him they're not getting into this anymore. Andrew says goodnight and leaves.

Roast Session

Final roast session with remaining guests (Carly, Lily, Katrina, Danielle, Upgrade). $30 TTS messages come in roasting all guests. Highlights: "Lily Phillips father" donates for her chair; OJ Simpson character asks Carly about a skin tag; Thor says "make low body count great again." Brian offers Lily $20/hour to stop sex work. Patrice O'Neal clip played about "how would you keep your man if you had a train accident."

Makeup Removal Challenge

Brian brings out makeup wipes (Neutrogena brand, debated). Carly and others try to remove makeup on camera. Light segment after emotional episode.

Transcript

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Ayadon't know which one's the right one yeah sure I mean there's all kinds of ways to approach like the dating Marketplace and everything that's going on but or or like for example an alternative hypothesis might be like I

Ayathere's a lot of men that I dated but I sort of like in hindsight feel like I really should not be dating them anymore in a way that's possible you could argue that I've like downplayed all their good qualities so maybe we have a

Ayapsychological phenomenon where we like sort of don't remember how good people were because we're like [ __ ] those guys or something um I don't know if that's actually what's going on I'm just giving like something that another theory we could test yeah well can I ask your

Brian Atlasquestion like have you had like is there one partner in particular you've had who was like the most amazing in bed definitely my current one what's that my current one definitely your current oh your current one okay um how about like

Brian Atlasprior to him was there a Gap where like you had a really amazing sexual experience with a certain guy and then like guys after him like did not sexually satisfy you and because they didn't like meet meet to that standard

Ayaor that caliber of the previous men you were like sexually dissatisfied uh to a minor degree yes okay I mean most them kinky so like I've like had a sex with the kinky guy and then I had sex with vanilla gu vanilla like man I wish I had

Brian Atlassex with kinky not as fulfilling right but but I mean you you did have that experience yeah this is true I think it's plausible yeah yeah and then like question were you while you were dating these men maybe not necessarily during

Ayasex were you thinking about like oh man this other guy was way better you're doing comparison not really I'm abnormal like I don't know if I'm representative possibly like I can I'll give you a personal anecdote yeah

Brian Atlaslike I think this can happen to men too um so um so my God I can't believe I'm uh Andrew e muffs I feel or I don't know never mind you don't have to do ear

Brian Atlasmuffs so it's like okay in the same way that like women once you fall on like you you're you're playing Russian roulette you're like rolling the dice and then you land on like the dick you know it doesn't like he's just that good

Lily Phillipsin B you know this [ __ ] okay and you we got some bu I sorry

Brian AtlasI'm by yeah yeah you what uh look all [ __ ] is good but some [ __ ] is better than other like I don't know like a woman who's like multi-orgasmic who

Brian Atlascan come in like 5 seconds and then she have like multiples and like come like 20 times in a row and it's super easy and then you're going to like deal with a girl who like you need to [ __ ] Jackhammer to like make her come like a quarter of the way to a climax it's like

Brian Atlasokay that's kind of like you've been you've been accustomed to a woman who can come and then like that also feels really good both like physically and psychologically in ter terms of the psychological stimulation um so it's

Brian Atlaskind of like once you you know it's like ah how do you go back to like the woman who's like mult you know obviously people are more than just like the sexual experience there's other components to a relationship like do you get along with them are they a good

Brian Atlasperson uh are they Pleasant so it's not just the sex but I'm just like within that realm of like sex it's hard to go from like multi-orgasmic [ __ ] crazy and then

Brian Atlasyou're going to date the girl who's like she do really get that way and it's like impos it's like super hard to make her Cal it's like [ __ ] are you having this problem right now oh my God okay look I have yes I've

Brian Atlasencountered a woman who's like incredibly insanely orgasmic and then I've also like subsequent to that dated a girl who like she can even make herself come right like some women are

Lily Phillipsjust it's hard really hard for them so but I I feel like where a lot of women have this problem kid know where a lot of women have this problem where they go from someone that they're you know having

Lily Phillipsgreat sex with and really into and have this great connection with to like then going maybe downgrading and you know having a bit of [ __ ] sex it's because usually they go from you know being in a

Lily Phillipsrelationship seeing someone long term cuz I feel like as women we enjoy sex more with a partner the more we have sex with them like it does get a lot better Lear yeah yeah and so when you go from

Lily Phillipslike seeing someone and being with someone for quite a long longterm thing and then like maybe you know you're sleeping around a lot and it's like oh my God these [ __ ] guys are [ __ ] [ __ ] in bed it's not cuz you're they [ __ ] in bed or you you've got a bad

Brian Atlasconnection with them it's because you spent so much more like time and effort with the person before yeah yeah I agree with you that there's more to like a relationship than strictly just the sex

Brian Atlasand absolutely sex can improve and you can work on it and it can be better um but uh I'm just saying you know yeah I mean

CarlyI also feel like a lot of the times with just like oneoff things like they they don't care about like you they just care about themselves like and that's why we want the guys that are committed because

Brian Atlasthey actually don't treat us they'll learn and they'll take the time to like 100% yeah word all right I got a couple chats I got to read um Shooters

Brian Atlassheets Candice is honestly so hot that it makes it worth the ear damage do you want to respond to the to this candas no no okay we have

Brian AtlasLucas uh shooter thank you for the uh message shoter really appreciate it man uh Lucas Aya you're a bright oh Aya you're bright girl but you're engaging in bad

Brian Atlasbad faith pedantry the quintessential Bill Clinton depends on what the meaning of the word is is do you want to respond super quick to this uh I mean I just want to know what people mean I it's

Andrew Wilsonreally genuine sure Jason I think that that's fair to always get clarification on what a person means that the portion where becomes pedantic is if the person

Brian Atlasgives you what they mean and then you refuse to accept what they mean that's when it becomes P if that did happen that's we we have Jason Cassell chair 4 we should care what kind of mother you are to your daughter you are on a live podcast and you told the world world

Brian Atlasthat you are okay with your daughter being a prostitute I would say that that is evil do you want to respond that is not what I said you completely twisted my words would you be cool if she was like getting like driven around by her

Lily Phillipsthough uh no sorry did I just say that that was a completely different scenario that she described with addiction problems and things so I would also love to respond to this cuz as well like I

Lily Phillipsfeel like it affects me because it's also my like as in like my mom supports when I started owning fans and go ahead Lily my mom always describes it as like I can sit there and be totally against

Lily Phillipsit never speak to you again you know never have a relationship relationship with you anymore but it's like that would be way more heartbreak than you know if she actually supported me in something I enjoy doing and a happy with

Brian Atlaslike would you you would way rather have that than I I have a question for you would you if you knew before you had started doing o new definitively like maybe you had a conversation with your

Brian Atlasparents and your parents said Lily if you do this our relationship is over we are done you're out of our Lives we're

Brian Atlasnever going to talk to you [Music] again um [Music]

Lily Phillipswould would you have not done only fans if this was all before before and they're like you went to them and you're

Lily Phillipslike I'm thinking about doing this I think it's hard cuz I would not have then experienced what Joy this has brought me so I I wouldn't have then

Lily Phillipslike known you know is this going to actually be the career for me so maybe it would have but then again I also think that if your parents gave you an

Lily Phillipsultimatum it would just make you want to choose the thing that like FS them off the most yeah 100% if your parents are going like I will never speak to you again if you do this as a teenage girl at 18 I of course I would have took it

Brian Atlaswhy but but so it it wouldn't so you would you would have taken the choice the choice to just start your only fans knowing the entailment being the relationship with

Lily Phillipsyour parents is irreparably damaged it's over like for life would you still do it it depends cuz right now I know I know the joy this job brings me and so I can't put myself in that head space that

Andrew WilsonI was when I was 18 how about this what if I mean wait that makes wait wait a second that makes no sense so if it is the case they don't want you to do only fans and then you're going to do only

Andrew Wilsonfans but then they say they're going to disown you and you're still going to do only fans why would it be a problem to because it's it's the same result either way right right say that again sorry you

Andrew Wilsonwere laughing a bit too much if it is the case that if they give you an ultimatum you would do only fans but you're going to do only fans without the ultimatum then what do they lose by

Lily Phillipsgiving you the ultimatum I I just meant in the sense of like well my parents then lose me if they get me this ultimatum they lose contact with me so

Andrew Wilsonso the IDE so the idea here is if they give you an ultimatum for behavior that you're not going to talk to them again so they have to concede to your behavioral

Andrew Wilsonstandards I I feel like I'm I think I'm confused with so if I have a behavioral standard for a person if you do acts I don't want to be a part of your of your

Andrew Wilsonlife right this is bad from my view like I don't know murder let's say something like this if it were the case that I gave them the ultimatum and then they went and did the activity anyway versus

Andrew WilsonI did not give them the ultimatum and then they still went and did the activity what the hell do I lose by giving them the ultimatum it sounds like giving them the ultimatum at least shows them where it is that you stand you know

Lily Phillipswhat I mean no cuz then then if you gave me the ultimatum then we say like you and my dad we never then we never talked again so then you would never get cont that would be you saying the behavioral

Andrew Wilsonstandards of me you need to accept versus them saying the ultim the behavioral standards I have you need to accept so basically you're just usurping behavioral standards from your parents

Lily Phillipsright you're saying you need to either concede to my behavior or else so it's actually you giving the ultimatum no but at the end of the day it's my career it's my life it's my job

Katrinathis is yeah a choice I get to make it's you know it's not it's a choice you get to make but you're saying if you don't agree with the choice get the [ __ ] out of that's definitely you can't choose who your children are right they turn

Katrinaout like if you can pick and choose who your babies are your job as a parent is to protect them and to love them and if you could eat me Mighty Mo and pick your perfect child no that's not the job of a parent I mean I'm sorry I think

Andrew Wilsonunconditional love is very important when raising children no no I just I just feel that this is the job of a parent I think one aspect of parenting would be to protect your child and to

Andrew Wilsonlove your child but love has many uh facilitations as to what that means I think that holding uh standards for behavior is part of love and I think

Andrew Wilsonboundaries is part of love I think that uh I think I think that holding standards for behavior is part of loving somebody the idea that if you love me I can do whatever the [ __ ] I want

Lily Phillipsregardless of your beliefs to me is insane that's like that's the opposite of love to me but I I think because my parents love me so much they would way rather see me in a job I enjoy than you

Lily Phillipsknow something I would hate and it' make my life miserable and you know it make me depressed they would though if it if it's if it here's what I mean I'm thinking in my head if you were going to

Andrew Wilsondo something which was against my standards as my kid right for Behavior this my parents never laid down that law that was I understand I I understand your situation this may be different you

Andrew Wilsondid kind of make it sound like they but anyway that aside if it is the case that I'm like this behavioral standard is unacceptable to me and they're like well

Andrew WilsonI'm going to do it anyway and you can either [ __ ] deal with it or not right then it's like well yeah there's an ultimatum I guess on my side but there's also an ultimatum on theirs right so the

Andrew Wilsonthing is is uh for my view though shouldn't a parent kind of Hold the Line shouldn't the parent be like no this Behavior nonsense needs to stop [ __ ] that it's damaging to you it's damaging

Andrew Wilsonto society and I'm not going to indulge in any of it like how's that not love but you're how's it love to just be like do whatever the [ __ ] you want that that doesn't sound like love the thing is

Lily Phillipsthough a parents are there to guide them not just absolutely abandon them you know and things like that well they would be the kid abandoning the parents no because are say standard and

Andrew Wilsonthe kid is saying but I'm not going to adhere to it and unless you do I'm not going to deal with you anymore isn't that the kid abandoning the parent I don't believe so well no cuz

Andrew Wilsonnobody really asked to be born you know like we're all just that's like oh I can just say well I didn't ask to be a parent you know what I mean but but whether you whether you ask for it

Andrew Wilsonor not it is just in case you were born it just seems to me like the responsibility putting all the responsibility especially if you're an adult on your parents right like you want a relationship with me I'm not

Andrew Wilsongoing to adhere to your behavioral standards or else that's I mean how do you not have culpability for this supposed abandonment right but the thing is you're you're an 18-year-old you're an adult like you your parents can't

Andrew Wilsongive you an no and tell you exactly what to do at that age yeah they can they can give you an ultimatum for the restrictions of the relationship they're willing to have with you based on behavior of course like if a parent said if as long as you're out being a serial

Andrew Wilsonkiller I'm not going to have anything to do with this is not murder I'm not saying it's Mur don't compare it hey stop stop I'm not saying it's murder what I am saying is that they have the right to say if you're engaged in this

Andrew Wilsonex Behavior I find a warant I'm using murder because it's easy to understand right I'm not going to have anything do with you nobody would blame them but I think that would make them a bad parent if they just abandon them like that I think it makes you a bad kid to give an

Andrew Wilsonultimatum for abandonment the kid isn't the one giving the automation though the kid is actually the kid is saying I'm not going to conform to the behavioral standards

Andrew Wilsonif you want me in your hang on if you want me in your life you will concede to my behavioral standards that is actually an ultimatum but it's just it's just

Lily Phillipslike a uh agree to dis grieve their views like the the kid thinks that's that's totally fine to do and the parent doesn't right right so the the thing is

Andrew Wilsonhere is uh if the parent says this is not right you the the problem I have here is that the the counter claim is well then you don't really love them it's like that seems stupid to me it

Andrew Wilsonseems like yes you can definitely really love a person and not agree at all with the behavior they're you never talk to your kid again if they sex do with them

Lily Phillipsuntil the behavior changes why is that even bad so so if you had a a child and you know I have eight sorry I don't know your background or no no go ahead you

Lily Phillipscan ask the question go ahead and you know she turned 80 in and decided that she was going to take this route in life and do only funds are you then giving them an alternatum and saying I'm not talking to you again if you if you I think I think that me saying you're not

Andrew Wilsonconforming to behavioral standards that I find acceptable uh and you can either do that and have a Rel relationship with me or not is the same exact thing they're saying to me so I think they would be saying the same thing to me

Andrew Wilsonthat I'm saying to them so this seems Mutual to me or like both parties are giving this ultimatum it's not just you it's not just them so if that's the case yeah I don't I don't see a problem with that if one of my kids said to me I'm

Andrew Wilsongoing to go off and be a prostitute I'd say well here's the thing I will always love you there's nothing I can do I can even do about that if I wanted to right I'll still always love my children but that doesn't mean that I'm ever going to

Andrew Wilsonto support any of these behaviors and until these behaviors stop I'm not going to enable them you wouldn't ever talk to your kid or anything like will they be at Christmas

Katrinadinner what's that so will your your gay or prostitute kid be at Christmas dinner but I I I personally deem that as

Lily Phillipslike a bad a bad parent if you're just going to abandon your kid like a bad kid because the kid not really cuz they're not doing anything wrong doing sex work isn't isn't inherently

Andrew Wilsonwhat is the parent doing wrong then by this metric what are they doing that's wrong abandon their child that's not abandonment of yes is if you're not talking to them anymore you won't see

Andrew Wilsonthem if you're 18 years old okay well cutting off a relationship you want to call it if you're 18 years old how the [ __ ] are you abandoning a child okay well you you're cutting off all relationships then yeah so what why is that wrong well don't you put off

Andrew Wilsonrelationships with people based on behavioral not when not when well not when they're my family my parents why why not because they're family what do you mean I would I never not talk to my parents doesn't matter what they do for

Andrew Wilsonyou what would make it wrong for you my parents could kill someone based on Behavior why would that even be wrong why would that even be a problem because family it's not it's not all about like

Lily Phillipsright and wrong you know you love each other unconditionally yeah exactly what do you mean unconditionally yeah have you ever had unconditional love do you know what that feels like yeah let's say you love them

Andrew Wilsonunconditionally you haven't demonstrated this person doesn't love you you've only demonstrated cut means hang on hang on you haven't demonstrated they don't love you you've only demonstrated they won't give into to your behavioral standard

Lily Phillipsthat's it they still love you I think we're just going so in this if honest cuz agree to disagree I think it would be unloving if my parents cut me off I think it's unloving that you won't conform to their behavior of standard

Lily Phillipswell cuz I won't stop porn like what oh CU they because you demand that they accept porn my my parents well my my personal parents don't demand I stop porn so that's so let me ask you a question Lily

Andrew Wilsonif you go off and you do corn you still love your parents yes okay so why would it be the case that if your parents stopped talking to you because you went off and did corn that that meant they

Andrew Wilsonstopped loving wait wait take that back so if I did corn I still love my parents is that the question I I do corn love my parents so why would your parents stop loving you just cuz you did corn even if they stopped having a relationship with

Lily Phillipsyou why I'm not talking about my personal parents aren't like this but you're you're saying you're saying basically you would abandon your child and I think I person de that that you don't love your child if you will never

Andrew Wilsonspeak to them or see them again they years old are they still a child pdon if they're 35 years old are they still a child oh your your child your kid whatever you want to final Point final point on this so so here's the thing you

Lily Phillipskeep on you keep on saying you're abandoning your child as though this is a three-year-old oh sorry I sorry I'm using the terminology my parents still call me a child cuz there's no abandonment Lily you're not abandoning

Lily Phillipsyou're saying until you conform terminologic what terminology what terminology would you like me to use for someone your child no as your child then if you don't want to use word child yeah

Andrew Wilsonbut the reason that you're saying child is because you're infantilizing it like what word would you like me how about this then how about this use the terminology your adult child

Andrew Wilsonokay see how that sounds you're abandoning to you by having a behavioral standard for your adult child are abandoning your adult child say that out loud so you're abandoning your adult

Lily Phillipschild cuz they do porong so you don't love them anymore that means you don't love them anymore yeah but it doesn't mean that the kid stops loving them because they won't conform to their behavior we're going to go around in

Lily Phillipscircles because we're going to agree to disagree I believe that if you were to abandon your child because they did porn that you don't love them anymore okay well let me ask you a question just one

Andrew Wilsonlast question before Brian wraps this up is it at least from your view possible that a parent can absolutely love their child and still cut off contact with them based on Behavior I I personally

Lily Phillipsdon't think I don't think that would be Ling no I think if you choose to be a parent were a PDF file I think if you choose to be a parent you you love that kid till it dies I didn't say depending

Andrew Wilsonon depend on what what it does I didn't say listen I literally conceded the love thing I'm asking you this question well I think you stand you stand by your

Lily Phillipschild even if they're PDF files I don't know what PDF files oh yeah kid you go after kids I my parents have always said even if I kill someone they would still start by me you stand would so you would

Andrew Wilsonstand by you think that a good parent stands by their kid even if they're pdfi they yeah they still love them and talk to them I didn't say anything about love well they still talk to them they won't cut off contact now you can still love

Lily Phillipsyour kid but that doesn't mean you have to accept the well they they would still keep contact with them that's what I'm trying to say why why do they need to keep contact with them what because they're their child and they have chosen to be a parent at the end of the day as

Andrew Wilsonwell oh like we can go around in circles about this all right last question I I lied okay so last question this has to be the last it has to be the last last one last one could you conceive of

Andrew Wilsonhaving a boyfriend or an ex-husband who what do conceive me hold on let him finish let him still who still is in love with you but stops talking to you

Andrew Wilsonwhat does conceive me rephrase that maybe can you think that it's possible that there could be an ex-husband or boyfriend who is still

Lily Phillipsin love with a woman but stops talking to her yes but that is so different that's so different the relationship is people even if you cut that type of relationship is so

Lily Phillipsdifferent I see but it is possible to get off contact with people in oh my God but yes but that type of relationship is very different Len to me my sperm made

Andrew Wilsonyou makes it so that it's suddenly not love but if my sperm didn't make you I still could love you what what part of that actually makes sense do you want to keep talking and going around in circles

Brian Atlasyes it's so I bet it's so boring to listen to I hope all your kids turn out just how you want Lucas says Lucas says Candace if you have a public platform you make public assertions about someone you have a duty of due diligence

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)otherwise you're CNN fake News Network do you want to respond or I mean I don't know how many times we have to beat a dead horse you know what I mean okay yeah uh we have Jason chair three

Brian Atlasdoesn't sound like your parents love you God damn Jason chill out bro um sounds like they don't really care about you are you chair for's daughter tell damn this is not the roast session yet chill out guys holy [ __ ] we'll get to the rast

Brian Atlassession in a moment then say save Jason save it for the rast session okay um all right here I do have a request of Aya Aya have you seen the movie American Pie

Brian Atlasno you haven't seen American Pie that's homeschooled you can yeah um there's this line can you say this

Brian Atlasone time at band camp this one time at band camp it was okay all right never mind just sometimes the the flow of your like

Brian Atlaskind of the what's the word for it Cadence thank you uh it reminds me of uh her the uh Alison Hanigan I think from American Pie so the band camp girl okay

Brian AtlasI need to get through all the oh actually wait we did do the rating thing yeah uh I think I pretty much wrapped up on that the only question I have follow up on that is do you think you'll be better looking better looking in 10

Brian Atlasyears time you're 32 will you be better looking in 10 years time at 42 no definitely not okay and you're 32 were you better looking at 22 than you are now at 32 uh

Brian Atlasuh better looking at 22 Okay C uh Candace you're 35 better looking in 10 years time at 45 no and then you're 35 were you better looking at 25 than you are now no better looking now okay uh

Lily Phillipsyou're 23 better looking in 10 years time at 33 I think I will be yeah better looking in 20 years time 43 paron wait uh would you be better looking probably not no okay maybe but

Lily Phillipsyes at 33 I might have a lot more work done so it depends you have work currently or yeah yeah lips lips lips is it the no I haven't had my lips done why do they look nice I don't know thank you

Brian Atlasyou're 43 better looking in 10 years time at 53 oh okay you're 43 were you better looking at 33 than you are now at 43 no better looking now mhm okay what about 20 years time uh better looking at

Brian Atlas23 versus 43 no so better looking better looking now at 43 versus 23 yeah I think so when you take the whole I'm thinking of all the things not just like sorry

Brian Atlastalking just looks just looks so you can't factor in like personality being ethically nonous prob no they probably better at 23 okay uh you're 21 do you think you'll be better looking in 10

Brian Atlasyears time at 31 possibly but probably not okay uh you're 35 better looking in 10 years time at 45 no no sorry no was that no yeah it would not be and then

Katrinayou're 35 were you better looking 10 years ago at 25 I didn't have the confidence I do now so just looks though don't worry about the conf confence oh honestly I use an anti-aging

Katrinaface cream so um I'm pretty anti-aging yeah I look the same yeah I

Brian Atlasdid no aging anti no seriously okay no Aging in 10 years time okay all right uh you're 30 better looking in 10 years

Brian Atlastime at 40 no and then your 30 were you better looking at 20 uh I say yes only because I lost a lot of weight okay uh you're 22 better looking in 10 years

Brian Atlastime at 32 yes 20 years time at 42 H better than now um no okay uh wow I normally we get some

Brian Atlassometimes their troll answers to this but I don't think anybody said anything last time I was on I didn't quite understand the question but now I did okay uh we have some age just in Casa well we'll just go through it quick we

Brian Atlaswe age Advanced you did we also get gender too did we swap gender yeah okay [ __ ] it we'll do it we'll do that too we we used we used the art of AI to age all

Becca Sliderof you and we're going to test this out all right pull it up oh no may all right guys like the video like the video you got it okay all right how much older did

Becca Slideryou like what was the took some mil that's not 10 years older yeah that s days that's like you know what's interesting Candice is I like when you

Brian Atlaswere younger you looked more white this is going to don't clip this um definitely and then now you look more Asian but then here you look white again I don't know what happened I don't know either it's like this weird kind of yeah

Lily Phillipsnext that see that's 10 years old you're like 95 you're like 95 I'm like on Jeff's door at that point they did you

Brian Atlasdirty oh my goodness Crypt keep keeper over here at the next oh yeah I'm looking good okay do I think there you go all right I think you're

Carlywinning so far yeah next that's that is keeper that is keeper [ __ ] okay next oh my

KatrinaGod wait oh okay I curi I good um next

Upgradethat's like the lunch lady in elementary scho aot lunch lady nice I can see it I kind of look like my

Brian Atlasgrandma you you definitely definitely uh next of course obviously obviously next of course all right and then we

Carlyhave a different badge next we'll do it quick there's another B likey the same is it let me take a look we'll take a look and see yeah I feel like we were

Carlysame oh same guy yeah was definitely it was ridiculous oh God who okay next is this when you like meant to be like a child oh oh that's

Brian Atlasgood next I just that's more realistic next next

Brian Atlasnext next oh whoa holy damn okay next not wait wait oh no we'll do gender we'll do gender swap

Brian Atlaswait okay so so here's the thing wait what the [ __ ] is it like would you date would you date the boy would yeah would you date the male version like would you find them attractive like I guess that's

Brian Atlasall we can I can probably Brute Force itot she's going to Brute Force okay um okay all right

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)next Candace do you just like my brother so no tical so no you kind of look like a Stiffler oh my God you know that American Pie a little bit like Stiffler

Katrinanow looks just like a little bit a little bit they're American Pie reference

Lily Phillipswatch hell yeah hell yeah getting up you smash smash okay roll what the [ __ ] that's terrible they

Brian Atlasgave you a pomad what is that called is it a pador is that what that's called he look really funny yeah mm would you um would you hit no I don't not your type

Brian Atlasnot your type I'm scared or is it like Thrones scary looking that look scary I don't know I it's like you're it's it's your face but I know isn't that weird right you're just like you would like what about like just a one time thing

Brian Atlasyeah sure okay she'll okay she'll SM if they're as good and bad as I am next oh my God car

Carlyhey yo Carly do you I don't know I she's like definitely she's like I've never seen the man so handsome say kind of

Brian Atlasgiving like Predator like no really the guy the one with the beard or like sh beard I guess closer closer to mic if you sorry beard I guess I still

Carlyhave like lip gloss on on the other one so you would not you wouldn't you wouldn't do it maybe once just one time

Brian Atlasokay I need a couple drinks smash smash and dash okay how many sh

Brian Atlasnext okay uh who is that yeah that's a pit good jaw line there it's good um who

Brian Atlasdoes that look like looks like a Chara someone from The Walking Dead not the zombies like the one of the living people um okay next oh d

Brian Atlaswould you was supposed to be a boy I would say no just cuz it looks like my I would say no because it looks like my

Brian Atlasdad yikes okay uh all right let's see uh next oh

Upgradeno is I think that's the most ridiculous pigtails like like change the hair I don't would you would you hit if you were

Brian Atlassingle no no just doesn't do it for you no you for like uh okay next wait let me

Brian Atlascheck this oh okay oh no is it me oh no whoa oh okay dark do you hit I don't I can't

Brian Atlaseven see that far I can't really see at all okay she can't she's using the old can't see excuse okay next not you didn't do they didn't do me okay that's

Brian Atlasthat's fine all right wow that was that was good that was good all right uh let's get through the rest of the stuff as quickly as possible we do have uh we still need to get Candace's notes we

Katrinahave uh Katarina did I say it right did I still [ __ ] it up Hurricane Katrina cat

Brian AtlasKatrina just cat yeah you said uh it's so crazy when you get a boyfriend after being single for so long four years all of the ex potential creep exp potentials

Brian Atlascreep into your DMs once you get a new man at least six or seven pretty hot dudes give me a break I can't make this [ __ ] up I'm not a 10 but I identify as

Brian Atlasone I'm not ugly I'm broke cuz I know that they still going to cheat even if I was Megan Fox nice to everyone and all the dudes like me the girls too that's

Brian Atlaswhat you wrote okay um you said these dudes are [ __ ] and only one out of 20 I've tried on are still not married and

Brian Atlasstill effing around so clearly I'm not the problem you go girl okay you dated a guy who everyone uh everyone had a crush on in high school when you were

Brian Atlaswait when you were 30 oh so I was you knew him in high school but you did when you were both 30 or whatever okay he was

Brian Atlasthe best so funny talented and hot parenthesis 511 Trev ended up a gangster but I'm used to at this point you're

Brian Atlasused to gangsters gangsters at that point do you have a like not anymore my boyfriend now is not but I had a bad boy did you date like white guys black guys

KatrinaLatin all white boys only white boys yeah and like up until uh 2020 they were all over 6 foot had this like I was shall what gangs are white guys in I

Brian Atlasmean gangster like they I don't mean like like literally in a gang I just like thug yeah th right word like th okay yeah uh let's see spent most of his twins locked up in jail you were with

Brian Atlashim for about 6 weeks in 2019 you stayed friends uh back in okay I'm not I'm not going to like say that stuff but um what was wrong with l oh I just I don't know

Brian Atlashe's whatever okay he's in jail for drugs and guns no he got locked up right now uh you told him you were going to take a nap before you had to drive home when you were trying to sleep you heard him

Brian Atlasand his best bro wait yeah hold on hold on yeah so the thug yeah who every girl had a crush on in high school when

Katrinayou were trying to like fall asleep you guys were in like the same house or whatever you heard him in his best bro hooking up yep was he on top or bottom I heard them hooking up and I have had sex

Katrinawith that guy enough to know what it sounds like and um you know I wanted to what [ __ ] I know I wanted to get up out of like when I tried to leave I wanted

Katrinathere to be a chick there like that they were having like a threesome and there wasn't and um yeah it it's it was pretty

Katrinatraumatizing that since then I've kind of just had a thing like that guy is gay than like probably most

Brian Atlasare I mean like if that like if he's gay then you're you're you wrote you're worried that they all

Katrinaare cuz if he like it it yeah like you know the whatever top dog [ __ ] whatever but that guy who the guy who he's sleeping with is just one of his

Katrinayou know little [ __ ] that like just like all his other little [ __ ] too right okay yeah um is he having a good time in prison or that's what I mean is

Brian Atlasthat he's so damaged by it obviously uhhuh it turned off turned up into that you said all the men you've fallen in love with picked ratchet hoes over you

KatrinaI'm not talking like I'm talking like the kind of women like that you know I use and like that they um what's when I say ratchet women I say

Katrinawomen who um TR are uh strumpets harlots yeah like just

Katrinalike I'm trying to sum it up in so many words um baby have babies as pawns you said ratchet hoes yeah just yeah just say that ratchet

Katrinawho like and it's just yeah it became so like I became tainted and I was just going to I just started treating them the same way they treated me um so if

Katrinathey were busy I got busy too you know I had other things going on I didn't keep it I didn't I kept them on like ice or whatever you want to call it like I was

KatrinaI answer their calls and text them back and show up when they needed a friend um but I didn't put all my eggs in their baskets and it took like a good guy to

Katrinacome around um to make me drop all of them and that's you dropped them I did you dropped the yeah and you know what I'll tell you right now and I know you're not going to believe me but I didn't it wasn't all just sex like it's

Katrinanot I'm not like a super frisky kind of girl like I wasn't like that for me like it was just about uh being there for friend and it wasn't had didn't have to do with I wanted to [ __ ] or I was horny

Brian Atlasor anything like that it was the pity [ __ ] we talked about right the beginning that that's what that's what it was though like ah my friend yeah he's going through a hard

Katrinatime damn suck is De like what is that is that what it was y yeah so oh okay yeah those my show notes that's what I thought you were going to

Katrinaread like now it's holy [ __ ] have any of you been pity [ __ ] like the GU like oh

Becca SliderGod I guess a [ __ ] you know uh yeah yeah when I was pregnant [ __ ] well it because when I that sounds really bad when I was pregnant with my third I

Becca Sliderwanted sex every day it was it was insane while you're pregnant yeah I it didn't happen with my first two I was like wildly insatable I already feel that way now but it was it was insane with my third and that's I mean that's

Andrew Wilsonactually common Brian yeah and I literally wanted I wanted hor I know he didn't say it was ever a Pity [ __ ] but it was definitely he told me like well releases uh releas tons of hormones uh

Andrew Wilsonthat's why they have bizarre cravings and [ __ ] like that you know put GIF peanut butter on Doritos and all kinds of crazy [ __ ] so those those hormones yeah sometimes uh that's the way it leans pity and more of I can't keep up

Brian Atlaswith you but I'm going to give it to you anyway I see okay that that makes sense have I ever done the pity

Brian AtlasFunk probably okay good talk uh let's see final notes Here for Katrina finally uh you asked when you guys ask what our

Brian Atlasnumber is referring to body count what do you mean do you mean the number of D's we effed or effed

Brian Atlasus do B blow blow's count do you mean the number of men who have gotten me off do you mean the number of guys that uh non-consensual we I mean person I don't I don't I don't think that

Brian Atlascounts if it was n i I didn't say that though I said oh well you sorry you said pressured you into it or took advantage of you so it's still consensual wasn't I wouldn't say

Katrinaconsensual it was um like I felt like I had to do it so or like to get out like I've been in positions you know with guys be like give me a BJ or have sex

Katrinawith me or I'm going to tell your boyfriend you did anyways you know so that's not I mean that's uh I'm just saying there there's a word for that and like that's probably yeah so like my

Katrinanumber is higher than I want would like it to be um because I've learned from all of those mistakes that I but you know I'm not a victim I just put myself

Katrinain shitty situations and survived as Miss Pamela Anderson would say and uh I learned from them and I

Katrinalike I said earlier I don't enjoy or like like I felt like I next guy that I was to be with um would have to be

Brian Atlaspretty dope for me to put my number up for them okay um wait I actually uh sort of tangential to this but like do you

Brian Atlasthink let's say you're dating somebody and like there's maybe a differential in sex drive and like the boyfriend there's never been like it's always been consensual but like the

Brian Atlasgirlfriend is starting to like slowly withdraw and the boyfriend says she really likes him though and she wants to stay with him but like there's a mismatch when it comes to the sex and

Brian Atlasthe boyfriend's like I I really like you but we're not having as much sex as I would like with that would you consider that like press pressuring a girl to

Brian Atlashave like if he's like look I'm dissatisfied with our sex life like if like I'm going to have to leave you if it doesn't improve like would that be

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)like pressuring I guess it would be but is it like no because you're being honest I think that you just have to admit that not everyone's compatible and specifically sexually compatible so I think that's

Brian Atlasmore admirable than lying about it but what if she stays with him and she like UPS the amount MH I that's consensual like she UPS the amount I don't think it's pressure but she's

Lily Phillipslike that's not as much sex as she would otherwise want to have so is that like a compromise or is that like kind of I think they should be getting into the bottom of like why woman doesn't feel

Brian Atlasthe need to like want sex I mean like maybe she's has a really low sex drive or she's like partly a asexual yeah I mean I've been in it where it's like the other way around and I've wanted sex a lot more than the guy and it can be

Lily Phillipshurtful it sounds bad but it can be hurtful when like I feel hurt when a guy doesn't want to have sex with me because it's like why would you want to have sex with me and it's like you know sometimes you just have to realize that you do

Brian Atlashave different different sex drives and masturbation is key um that's personally my thought okay um I I'll just move this on hot take from you last thing you said if you give sex

Brian Atlasaway for free you might as well get paid for it ain't nothing worse than a broke ass hoe in my opinion yeah your words not mine yep so have you ever no I'm a

Katrina[ __ ] broke I'm broke so okay I don't get paid if I was going to give it away for free I would get paid for it like but you said ain't nothing worse than a broke broke ass ho

Brian Atlasexactly but but I'm broke ass ho broke but you're not a hoe right broke ass yeah not a hoe yeah exactly okay okay

Brian Atlasjust clarify seriously but if you're going to be a hoe you can't be broke ass yeah exactly got it okay just clarify understood understood okay you yeah

Brian Atlasthat's where like H love the analogy yeah it's good it's good okay Danielle you said one of your exes was a hardcore oh God masturbate her and he always

Brian Atlaswanted to masturbate especially to Asian porn huh when I am a thicker woman we were together for four or five years you found out a year later he still has his

Brian Atlasaddiction and has a kid uh they're separated the the new girl they got separated because of his hardcore masturbation still yeah to this day so

Daniellewould he like try to watch that [ __ ] with you no honestly it's I kind of found out about it because I came home and there was a laptop on his chest and his dick was out and he was asleep and

Daniellelike was it but like how did you know it was Asian porn because it was on his laptop oh you saw it I thought you heard something like it was Japanese porn or something no it's uh it wasn't it was just Asian porn I didn't

Daniellesee but I noticed and then I was kind of like oh like maybe it's a oneoff type of thing and then I kind of noticed it was all the time and like if I came home home

Danielleand I wanted to know like I'm tny whatever and then he's already done it and I was like oh okay and he's just like one of those type of guys that like come and come once a day you know they can't you know wait was that the only

Danielletime you caught him with hising multp and he always Asian it was always as always Asian and like skinny Asians like not like super and I was thinker and this is one of the reasons

Daniellehe actually broke up with me is because he wanted to get fit and I wasn't in a position at the time to get fit because I was going to school fulltime and I was working two jobs and it was just like a

Daniellelot and um oh me so horny me love you long time pretty much and um I happen to be friends with one of his friends that

Danielleuh unfortunately I still hear about him and I I have seen him over the years because we do have mutual friends and I'm very civil with all my exes sure but

Brian Atlasum it's to this day it's like to the point where he lost custody of I'm just curious like would it have been better if like what

Brian Atlasif they were still skinny but it was like a white chick do you feel better or worse um and what if it was a Latina or a Native American go through all the RAC

Daniellefact yeah like any because I am a thicker girl like I just find because he was watching always like smaller girls and the fact that he wanted to get fit and all that stuff like it kind of it's

Daniellelike like you know we're a couple we can better each other type of thing or maybe and just overall like the fact that it was always skinny people in the porn kind of like threw me for a loop because

DanielleI'm not skinny and if that's what he likes then like why is he with me and so originally he broke up with me because you know he said you know I want to get fit and all this stuff and I was like

Danielleokay no problem and then like he did this huge thing where he won me back in a sense where he you know bought me flowers he did this huge like gesture of like like I'm so sorry like I [ __ ]

Danielleup and then I was 20 at the time so like I was young and this is my high school sweetheart and I was like okay sure and but I don't want to be one of those couples that break up and get back

Danielletogether a thousand times that's not the not what I want and so overall we got back you know what you should have done was he a white guy he was a white guy yeah the white guy you should you should

Brian Atlashave thrown it back in his face and just started watching like big black Co and just

Danielleon laptop and he comes home he's like [ __ ] just [ __ ] yeah yeah just throw that in his face you know yeah no but uh

Danielleoverall we opportunity didn't work out and then left each other yeah and uh then I found out the partner he had same thing and never stopped you said that you went on the first date and the guy

Brian Atlasstarted talking about how his ex puts peanut butter on her um yeah on dating off pretty much I've only really three

Daniellepeople like why would you not that damn why you that sounds like a part no because it's like not first date material you think when you go on a first date you know you talk about yourselves whatever it's like oh you're

Daniellebringing up the my [ __ ] literally he and then the fact that he like thought I would still kind of like he's like sends me like a

Danielledickpic later that night and I G and I'm like it's not hot like you talking about your ex and how she used to get off from her dog is like not what dog when did

Daniellethe dog get R miss the wait what about the dog it wasn't the boyfriend no she put

Daniellepeanut butter on sorry I got mixed up I thought it was the boyfriend not the dog wait maybe I missed that out wait his his ex so his

Daniellegirl like his ex girl his exgirlfriend she put the peanut butter peut butter on her vagina and let her dog god be I thought you were talking about no that's like first date material where that's

Daniellewhy I'm not [ __ ] talking to this man ever again all right that's crazy it's like you think I would like who thinks that's okay it's like I don't want to be your

Brian Atlasex she's [ __ ] into beastiality or whatever yeah uh we have Carly here uh Carly you said you were with a guy for 5 years and he cheated on you within at

Brian Atlasyeah we talked about that um cheat on you with yeah you said a lot of guys in Los Angeles only date models so they can say they're dating a model we call them modelizers like from Sex in the City

Brian Atlasisn't like they're fetishizing you yeah but like an actual model or just a girl who like did like one or two shoots and she's like claiming model me no not you I'm not talking about you people yeah I

Carlymean just literally anybody that like claims that they are it's like the weirdest thing cuz the second that I like like you know broke up with my ex and whatever and started like dating around again that was like the first

Carlything that anybody ever mentioned anybody ever talked about like that was like it for a conversation about me and like and then I'd be like oh like have

Carlyyou been with like other people that are models before and they would always be like yeah my ex was a model and my ex before that and then like people will always be like or I've heard guys be

Brian Atlaslike I like yeah I only date models blah blah blah but it's they don't have to actually be like a real model they just have so wait you've had multiple encounters with men who say they only

Brian Atlasdate models oh yeah like at least like five at least that's interesting I've never heard that one uh only date only date models yeah I think it's like

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)mainly I don't know maybe just in La I don't know but I mean you were in I thought it was that was fake I saw it in Sex in the City when it came out I didn't know that was a real thing yeah I thought it was fake too like I

Brian Atlasdid not think that was a thing but apparently uh you said you uh maybe like uh wait maybe like long-term relationships and knowing when a relationship has become more of a friendship than a romantic thing and

Brian Atlasdating again after long-term relationship oh so we're like it like dead bedroom is that what you're talking about like you're dating a guy and you stop having sex or well it was more like

Brian Atlassounds like it I mean a little bit maybe maybe oh yeah wait is it like you didn't want to or he didn't want to yeah like cuz after so like so long

Carlyand if you're with someone who's just like not like does not treat you well and whatever I don't know why I still stuck with him whatever but after a while it was definitely just like a

Brian Atlasfriendship but then he's like come on like oh he was still trying to but oh you were not yeah you're over it sounds like it you said you have a take that a lot of younger guys especially in

Carlyfraternities are emotionally gay like they're only interested in what other men think and if they like them or not yeah L like ly sometimes they they well

Carlyjust in the terms of like they only seem to care about what other guys think and what how other guys feel and how their friends are feeling and how these guys

Carlythat they're like really really close with feel but they'll like dat a girl show it off to all their friends so they'll think they're cool but they won't actually like give a [ __ ] about

Brian Atlastheir girlfriend the girl yeah I mean I think some I I mean I think this is perhaps the case for both men women like men like if you're dating an attractive woman that gives you a certain level of status among other men I don't think

Brian Atlasthat should be the like that's like super low at least for me that'd be like kind of irrelevant or super low on the totem pole but I'm not really public like that with my like if I'm dating somebody but um but I almost think

Brian Atlasthough isn't it I feel like women are way more more concerned about the Judgment of other women when it comes to their partner than the reverse like I feel like you guys need the coign no we date the boys you need no but you maybe

Carlynot even looks but you need the cosign from your female friends but you do it anyway you still date whoever you want even if your girlfriend kind of hat them you still do it anyway it's more just to like sure get some uh you said porn in

Brian Atlassocial media has made men objectify women to the point of no longer being able to actually have feelings for women even if they're straight sexually yeah like that just kind of ties back

Carlyinto like the emotionally gay thing I just feel like a lot of times guys just like literally cannot see women as like human beings that are equal to them not necessarily all the time and it's not necessarily like super common but I've

Carlyseen it a lot and I feel like it definitely does happen and it's just like not talked about and that's why a lot of relationships might be kind of [ __ ] I mean that's how it was with my

Carlysister like God her ex is just consistently or like like that like would only talk to his friends but then would come to her

Brian Atlaslike when it was time to like hook up oh so they're okay I mean I mean that's more like hookup culture I think but I I guess when it comes to

Brian Atlasobjectification I mean when it comes to like porn and social media I think there are men who are objectifying women but a lot of these women are just objectifying themselves um sexualizing themselves and

Brian Atlasit's like the modeling Beauty the like modeling Beauty sex industry it's like so dominated by women these women are just yeah I mean I'm not I don't know if that's what you're talking about I mean I'm not saying it's not I'm just saying

Brian Atlaslike the whole thing is like you know it's not great for well I mean I think like there are a lot of men have like porn brain and

Brian Atlasthey've just been like and they follow all these like IG chicks on Instagram and they're like liking the photo this is a really common complaint I hear from women like oh I don't want to dat a guy who's like following all these IG girls

Brian Atlasand liking their photos like I feel uh uncomfortable or insecure in the relationship and I I mean but my prescri prescriptive advice is like as men you shouldn't be following girls on

Brian AtlasInstagram I mean you shouldn't be watch I don't think like my personal approach I don't think men should watch porn or at least limit it like substantially yeah I mean I definitely agree with that

Carlyit's a lot harder to have an emotional connection with a woman when you're just constantly seeing women in that specific area you got I I mean I don't if I'm in

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