3x RAGE QUIT! She Did 100 Men In 1 DAY?! 1,000 NEXT?! Lily Phillips! Eva Lovia! | Dating Talk #227

Date: 2025-02-12

Duration: 7h 37m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAya (Idaho/SF)>

CCandace Horbach >

LLily Phillips >

BBecca Slider >

CCarly (SB/LA)>

KKatrina (Ottawa)>

DDanielle (Ontario)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Carly(guest)

SPEAKER_04Danielle(guest)

SPEAKER_05Aya(guest)

SPEAKER_06Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Patrice O'Neal (clip)(audience)

SPEAKER_08TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Katrina(guest)

SPEAKER_12Becca Slider(guest)

SPEAKER_13Lily Phillips(guest)

SPEAKER_14Upgrade(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAya introduces herself: 32yo, from Idaho (homeschooled, Calvinist), lives in SF. Researcher who also does escorting. Was top OnlyFans creator. Charges $4K/hr for escorting.

“all right I am Aya uh I'm 32 years old M uh my location is here but I originally came from Idaho and now I live in SF”

QuoteAya describes her escorting work: charges $4K/hr, met a client at her hotel the night before the show.

“I Char 4K for the first hour and then a th each additional hour okay how many did he just do the one or was he like a baller”

IntroCandace Horbach (Eva Lovia) introduces herself: 35yo, adult industry 2001-2017, now podcaster, based in NC/Austin. Graduated from Coastal Carolina University. Stage name Eva Lovia.

“my name is Candace horbach I'm 35 I was in the adult industry from about 2001 to 2017 um I left I started a podcast”

IntroLily Phillips introduces herself: 23yo from Darbyshire, England. Adult star. Discusses her 101-man-in-a-day challenge (October 2024) and plans to do 1000+ to break the world record (currently 1057 by Bonnie Blue).

“I'm Lily Phillips I am 23 I'm from darbishire in England I live in London um adult star”

QuoteLily Phillips announces her goal to break the world record for most men in a day (the current record is ~1057 by Bonnie Blue). Plans a "conveyor belt" setup.

“yeah H yeah so you're going to do a thousand in a in a day yes I was watching Australian check already do that”

QuoteLily describes upcoming skydiving sex scene project.

“at the end of this month I'm doing a Skydive where I suck a guys Park skydiving sex scene yeah somebody's done that I haven't seen anyone do it”

IntroBecca Slider introduces herself: 43yo confidence coach, speaker, podcaster, top 1% OnlyFans. Was ordained pastor for 10 years. Deconstructed faith ~5-6 years ago.

“I'm Becca slider I'm a confidence coach and a speaker and I host a podcast and then I'm also a 1% Creator on only fans”

IntroCarly introduces herself: 21yo, originally from Santa Barbara, lives in LA, studies marketing, part-time fashion model.

“hi yeah I'm Carly I'm 21 and I'm originally from Santa Barbara actually but I live in LA right now um and I go to college and I also model part-time”

IntroKatrina introduces herself: 35yo bartender from Ottawa, Ontario, high school education.

“my name's Katrina from Ottawa Ontario Canada I'm a bartender since I was 17 I have a high school education”

IntroDanielle introduces herself: 30yo from Elmont, Ontario. Studied addiction and justice studies. Worked for the Government of Canada.

“hi my name is Danielle I am 30 I am from Elmont Ontario uh very small town uh I went to school for addiction um along with Justice studies and police foundations”

IntroUpgrade (returning guest) introduces herself: 22yo singer-songwriter, here for her third song. Sings Etta James "At Last" a cappella.

“hello I'm upgrade this is my second time on the whatever podcast I'm 22 and and I am a singer songwriter”

IntroAndrew Wilson introduces himself: host of The Crucible, political analyst/satirist, engages in debates worldwide. Declines to sing.

“I'm not going to sing a song no sh no my name is now you have now I'm the host of The Crucible to popular entertainment Channel on YouTube I'm a political analyst”

QuoteAya reveals she showers only ~37 times per year (record low 14-17 in 2019) and her 2022 stats spreadsheet tracking all activities.

“showered 37 what uh lowest amount of times you've ever showered in a year uh I think it was like 14 17 I think 17”

QuoteBecca admits to pity sex with her husband while pregnant with third child — "wildly insatiable" during pregnancy.

“yeah yeah when I was pregnant shit you know uh yeah I mean pity but it because when I that sounds really bad when I was pregnant with my third I wanted sex every day it was it was insane”

ControversyAndrew Wilson debates Katrina vigorously about her role "running" a prostitute friend, arguing that acting as a pimp is "unadulterated evil" and parasitical. Katrina defends her intentions as trying to help.

“pimp is so parasitical a literal parasite on society almost as bad as a prostitute herself”

QuoteCandace formally apologizes to Brian for making a video misrepresenting him without doing due diligence, then bows to him (rated B-minus by Brian).

“I'm so sorry that I didn't do my due diligence and I just took the gossip train and then made a video that got a lot of views and misrepresented you and your show”

QuoteBrian shows "bow video" of ex-girlfriend bowing 45 degrees and doing his laundry, cooking dinner after he came home at 1am from a podcast.

“this is a video I took of my ex-girlfriend I came home it was late 1:00 a.m. after a podcast boom huge do you see the bow deep bow that was a 45 degree angle”

ControversyAndrew challenges Lily on the "unconditional parental love" debate — argues that cutting off contact for a child doing porn is not abandonment but maintaining behavioral standards. Goes in circles extensively.

“how about this what if I mean wait that makes wait wait a second that makes no sense so if it is the case they don't want you to do only fans”

QuoteKatrina's notable quote about body count: "if you give sex away for free you might as well get paid for it, ain't nothing worse than a broke ass hoe."

“if you give sex away for free you might as well get paid for it ain't nothing worse than a broke ass hoe in my opinion”

QuoteLily Phillips says her body count is between 500-1000 when asked.

“range what was it last time can't remember what I said last time cuz last time I I still didn't count last time um I'm going to go right now probably between 500 to 1,000”

QuoteAya reveals precise body count breakdown: ~109 unpaid, ~450 paid clients, total ~550.

“uh probably low 500s and 109 free wait 109 free like unpaid unpaid okay how many do you think paid or uh well I have a CRM”

ControversyAndrew challenges Aya and Candace on scientific methodology (controls, sample size) during body count/study discussion. Goes on for over 20 minutes before Brian cuts it.

“studies are all shit you haven't read my studies dude listen yes I have dove into your studies which is how I knew that teenagers were over sampled”

ControversyAndrew tells Candace to use a "sing-song voice" if she wants him to treat her with respect, sarcastically mocking her complaint about his tone being disrespectful. This pushes Candace to her limit.

“from now on when you talk to me I need you to use a sing song voice The singest sest Voice you can possibly think of because otherwise I feel disrespected”

OtherRAGE QUIT #1: Candace Horbach rage quits. Brian confirms "she rage quit." Andrew had pushed her too far with tone/condescension complaints. She said she was going to check on her husband, then left.

“I'm going to go check on her I'll be right back I okay that's fine uh all right she Rage Quit”

OtherRAGE QUIT #3: Becca Slider and others (Aya, possibly others) also leave at same time as Candace. Brian attempts to get Becca back, saying "is Becca coming back?"

“we we got we're wrapping up I'll you Candace we're Candace Candace I think we're done it's so pass for anyway”

OtherRAGE QUIT #2: Andrew Wilson voluntarily departs, citing 3am and the show being almost done. Acknowledges his presence was offensive, says his job is to challenge worldviews.

“I'll I can see that my presence has been very offensive it's 3 o'clock in the morning anyway that's my dip time yeah it was very very nice to meet all of you”

QuotePatrice O'Neal clip played: "If you didn't have a vagina, how would you keep your man?" Guests answer with mouth, hands, other holes, cooking. Brian plays the reveal where Patrice says "you just classified yourself as a series of holes."

“ladies if you didn't have a vagina like say it was a terrible train accident right and the doctor was like we have to remove your pussy right away or you're going to die how how would you keep your man”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions & Background

All 9 guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation, education. Includes Aya (researcher/escort from Idaho), Candace Horbach/Eva Lovia (adult film actress/podcaster), Lily Phillips (viral 101-man adult star), Becca Slider (ex-pastor/confidence coach), Carly (model/student), Katrina (bartender, Ottawa), Danielle (Ontario, addiction studies), Upgrade (singer-songwriter), Andrew Wilson (political analyst remote).

Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares their relationship status, longest relationship, and context. Highlights: Aya (polyamorous 4yr open relationship), Candace (married 15 years, open during her career), Lily (single 3-4 years), Becca (divorced after 21 years, ethically non-monogamous), Carly (5mo single after 5yr relationship ended by cheating), Katrina (8mo relationship), Danielle (2yr relationship), Upgrade (2yr relationship with 41yo man).

Aya Pre-Show Notes: Homeschooling, Sex Work, Data & Polyamory

Brian goes through Aya's pre-show notes: evangelical Calvinist upbringing in Idaho, homeschooled, escaped factory work via adult content. Aya discusses her annual stats spreadsheet, shower frequency (37/year), LSD addiction, Lex Fridman interview, and polyamorous relationship. Debate over subordination of women morphs into semantic debate with Andrew.

Should Men Lead in Relationships? / Subordination Debate

Brian asks whether men should lead/be the "head" in relationships and who should get final say in a marriage impasse. Andrew frames it as a "threshold breaker" question. Most guests say it is circumstantial; Candace and Upgrade favor traditional male leadership. Aya goes full semantic on meaning of "should." Andrew clashes with Aya over philosophical definitions.

Eva Lovia / Candace Pre-Show Notes & OnlyFans Fraud Discussion

Candace discusses her career as Eva Lovia, her disclaimer on OnlyFans (entertainment only, no AI/chatters, to protect against delusional fans). Brian raises concerns about fraud by OnlyFans creators who use chatters/AI while claiming personal interaction. Aya reveals she tried a chatter and income skyrocketed but it made her sad. Discussion of body count stats and body count survey data from Aya's research.

Bear vs. Man Debate

Brian asks the classic "bear or man in the woods" question. Most guests pick bear. Andrew and Brian argue the position is logically equivalent to a racist position if applied to a demographic group, making it sexist. Upgrade says picking bear is sexist but may come from personal experience.

Becca Slider: Ex-Pastor to OnlyFans, "Pussy-Based Confidence"

Becca explains her journey from 10-year ordained evangelical pastor to confidence coach and OnlyFans creator. She discusses "pussy-based confidence" (sexual creative life force), Christian deconstruction, the role of fear in Christianity's foundations, bisexuality since age 16, swinging then open marriage, and her coaching philosophy. Andrew challenges her framework as a form of dogma/programming.

Katrina: Running a Prostitute, Drug World, Show Notes

Brian reads Katrina's pre-show notes: she has two moms, "ran" a prostitute friend (did makeup/calls/driving) as an attempt to help. Andrew debates the ethics of pimping vigorously with Katrina. Katrina describes discovering her "gangster" boyfriend having sex with a male friend (traumatizing experience). She says ain't nothing worse than a broke hoe.

Candace Apology & Bow to Brian

After Brian reveals Candace had made a video misrepresenting him (based on unverified secondhand Special Forces claim), Andrew pushes her to apologize. She eventually does, apologizing for not doing due diligence. Brian then asks her to bow — she does (rated B-minus). Discussion of the "bow video" Brian made of his ex-girlfriend.

Self-Rating Round (1-10, no 7)

Brian asks each guest to rate their own appearance 1-10 (cannot pick 7). Aya: 4.6; Candace: declined/no number; Lily: 8; Becca: 8; Carly: 6; Katrina: 8 (with makeup)/4 (without); Danielle: 6; Upgrade: 6; Andrew: 4-5. Andrew lectures about women lying about their self-assessments in social groups vs. men who call each other out. Long debate with Aya over semantics of "judging."

Lily Phillips Parenting / Sex Work & Unconditional Love Debate

Brian asks Lily whether she would have done OnlyFans if her parents gave an ultimatum. Debate spirals into Andrew challenging whether parents cutting off contact for sex work is "abandoning" the child (Lily's view) vs. maintaining behavioral standards (Andrew's view). Most guests feel unconditional parental love means maintaining contact. Andrew says love can coexist with behavioral standards.

AI Age Progression & Gender Swap Photos

Brian shows AI-generated aged versions of all guests (10+ years older) and gender-swapped versions. Comedic segment; Lily's aged version prompts "crypt keeper" jokes. Guests react to their gender-swapped versions and whether they would date/sleep with the male version of themselves.

Body Count Round & Discussion

Brian asks each guest their body count. Lily: 500-1000; Aya: ~550 (109 unpaid, ~450 paid); Candace: 9 personal + ~12-20 work scenes; Carly: 23-28; Danielle: 8; Katrina: under 35 (excluded coerced encounters); Upgrade: single digit; Andrew: did not give number. Discussion of whether body count matters (Lily: makes you better in bed; Becca: patterns matter more; Candace: 9 personal; most say circumstantial). Aya's survey data shows median ~5, raising to 10 by age 40. Andrew and Candace debate sample size and scientific controls.

All Day Foreplay / Viral Clip Discussion (Candace)

Candace describes her viral Twitter clip about "all-day foreplay" — the idea that women's arousal has more on/off switches (stressors = brakes), and that men following through on commitments reduces stress and improves intimacy. Andrew challenges this, arguing data shows women are most attracted to men who DON'T do chores (traditional masculine non-domestic behavior), that what she's really describing is feminist relationship dynamics. Extended debate about whether follow-through is masculine or if asking men to do chores is attraction-killing.

Rage Quit #1 — Candace & Others Leave

Andrew's confrontational tone throughout the show reaches a breaking point. Candace's husband texts. After hours of debate, Candace says "I'm going to go check on her [wife]" and leaves. Aya stays to wait for roast. Brian says "she rage quit." Carly, Becca and others also start to leave. Brian pleads for them to stay.

Andrew Wilson Rage Quit / Departure

Andrew acknowledges his presence has been offensive and says "it's 3 o'clock in the morning anyway, that's my dip time." Insists he wasn't trying to insult anyone — his job is to challenge worldviews. Lily tells him they're not getting into this anymore. Andrew says goodnight and leaves.

Roast Session

Final roast session with remaining guests (Carly, Lily, Katrina, Danielle, Upgrade). $30 TTS messages come in roasting all guests. Highlights: "Lily Phillips father" donates for her chair; OJ Simpson character asks Carly about a skin tag; Thor says "make low body count great again." Brian offers Lily $20/hour to stop sex work. Patrice O'Neal clip played about "how would you keep your man if you had a train accident."

Makeup Removal Challenge

Brian brings out makeup wipes (Neutrogena brand, debated). Carly and others try to remove makeup on camera. Light segment after emotional episode.

Transcript

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Ayanot sure that there's such a thing as an overworking goodness uh so I don't really okay so sometimes thank you appreciate that yeah thanks for

Brian Atlasclarifying well that was a interesting exchange um I do have a question related to this though to again perhaps get to the heart of the issue who gets final say so in a relationship or marriage

Brian Atlaswhatever let's say there's some sort of impass there is no resolution you can't come you know you want one thing he wants the other who should get final say

Brian Atlaswhoever pays hold on um so and I think Andrew sometimes you refer to this as a threshold breaker I think but uh who do

Brian Atlasyou think gets final say or would you I guess either in your own Dynamics who should get final say what do you think starting with you Aya uh like it depends on the thing I'm confused like if you're

Ayadisagreeing over like where should we move sure uh I don't know probably you should bet on it or like see who would want to pay more given that you had the money or make prediction markets to figure out I don't know I don't think I operate by these Norms but I know a lot

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)of people do sure what do you think I think it's going to depend on the situation you obviously have to respect the person that you're with so to do something that is going to damage the relationship or

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)blatantly disrespect the other person's not going to end up um you're not going to end up with a thriving relationship but it's like nothing's without consequence at the same time so it's trusting your gut like if you trust your

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)husband fully and he's like this is a terrible idea maybe consider the option that you're wrong and that he's right and vice versa so if you're telling him not to do something and this happens a lot um if you talk to anyone in in business the wife will be like that

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)person had a really sketchy feeling I don't think that this investment is good that ignores the woman's intuition and the thing just like crumbles right so it's looking at the history of the relationship too it's like how often has he been right about this thing and

Brian Atlasyou've been wrong and vice versa Andrew if I have you jump in really quick do you want to provide like maybe a good example of like a impass sort of situation that could arise in like a

Andrew Wilsonrelationship or marriage um just for use as an example here well I mean a very common one is just money so the idea of how money is used in a spent in a relationship versus not spent a

Andrew Wilsonrelationship with one of the number one disagreements that men and women have so the idea is if you can't come to an agreement on how money is spent or what school the kid should go to which might

Andrew Wilsoninfer spending money as well right uh ultimately there's only two of you right so uh either a third party has to break this threshold barrier or one of you

Andrew Wilsonultimately has to be the decider otherwise how do you uh essentially how do you how do you come to an agreement if both of you disagree like how how is that done if one person

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)ultimately doesn't end up with the final say I don't think one person holds that position permanently so and then it's also going to be who acts on it first so typically women are the ones that set all of the appointments pay the school

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)tuition if they're going to private school set up the doctor's appointments they make 60 to 80% of all of the household purchases so if you're just looking at Behavior you'd say women are but that could be the man saying no and

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)they're just making that decision anyways so I'm not really sure that any of that would matter though so I understand what you're it's what's being acted on right now right so like whether or not that's right or that's that's helpful for a healthy relationship like

Andrew Wilsonthat's a whole different conversation but what is happening as women are I'm not sure it's actually pertinent to what I'm saying though so I I understand what your position is you're saying hey look um you know women already have lots of household responsibilities and so

Andrew Wilsonthey're in a decision-making role already we're not really discussing that though no I'm saying that they're actually executing the decision already yeah well but they're executing the decision at the behest of the husband

Andrew Wilsonthough that right so this is the consent of the husband essentially is going into this decision-making meeting she's doing the day-to-day activities because he's saying you should do these day-to-day activities right he doesn't have any

Andrew Wilsondisagreement with that it's when there's disagreement within that who becomes the Arbiter then how do we how do we find this threshold breaker between two people for who makes the determination

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)or who has the ultimate say again I I don't think anyone holds that permanently so it's it's trusting your your partner I don't know yeah I'm not I'm not saying that well okay if they don't

Andrew Wilsonhold it permanently right but let's say the man considers himself to be in the position of authority uh and has been in the position of authority right this still doesn't really get to the heart of the question of if there's a

Andrew Wilsondisagreement and they can't reconcile it you say well the man doesn't hold that permanently it's like okay great but what I'm saying is when you can't reconcile the disagreement you both disagree who gets to ultimately make the

Andrew Wilsondecision whether you think that it's a permanent basis for a man to be in control of it or not I I don't even I don't I'm not even sure that's relevant really well because it the question seems that it's it's permanent so maybe

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)I'm misunderstanding if you're saying who's in charge and who is responsible for the deal breaker that sounds like who is always responsible for the deal breaker no not really but so what the question is asking is is if two people

Andrew Wilsonsince you know most relationships anyway are are two people I understand that there's polyamorous people here in this type of thing but that's outside of what you would consider the norm for society

Andrew Wilsonit's usually man woman that's it right uh and people generally tend to not like to share their Partners uh you can dispute why that is sexual Liberation whatever but it is a fact that most

Andrew Wilsonpeople are in monogamous relationships one man one woman most that's globally that's not even just in the west so if that is the case and you you have a disagreement can't reconcile it right

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)how do you figure out who Rec you know who ultimately is going to have this say I don't know I mean I've been in a relationship for 15 years and that's never happened there's never been a decision that there was an impass and if

Andrew Wilsonthere was if there was anything that was even close to that we tabled it until there was a mutual decision yeah but the the problem is is like what if what if it's not a mutual decision it's like no I'm not backing

Becca Sliderdown on this well then how well do they really communicate how well do they really communicate because the reality is if you if you care about the person especially you're talking about specifically a marriage the whole goal of conversations where you disagree is

Becca Sliderto let the other person feel heard understood and respected and if both people are receiving that and they're safety involved you're going to be able maybe not that moment maybe not that day to come to a conclusion that feels really good to the both of you where it

Becca Sliderdoesn't have to be it's my say so because I say so and I'm the lead and I think that's where the the ego gets in there and it can go wild wrong whereas a man who if we're going back to the man is leading and a man in his like healthy

Becca Slidermasculinity it doesn't come from a place of ego it comes from a very confident place where he knows who he is and he cares very much for the other for the partner for the wife and so he gives a

Becca Sliderwhole lot of hex i c a lot so I should filter it about her being on board with him so it's it's a mutual exchange of again being heard understood and respected there's not going to be this

Becca Sliderokay I get the final say that's like a that's like a child which unhealthy but that is like a child parent relationship to me oh okay well that's nice and all but it doesn't actually answer the

Andrew Wilsonquestion so I understand that you're saying there should be mutual respect we should both feel heard we should both discuss things etc etc um okay great so you've discussed everything and you know

Andrew Wilsonhe still disagrees with you and thinks no you're incorrect and I'm just really not willing to budge on this so either we have one of two choices right either

Andrew Wilsonthe the relationship is over because you won't budge or or he won't budge or you won't concede or um or what what's the other like what's the other option you would have to concede to the authority

Carlyright like I don't see any way around it I don't understand this though I thought relationships were all about compromise yeah I think the answer that you're looking for would be answered if you gave us like a specific scenario instead

Carlyof just being like who gets final say because it like super that's it that's way too like if you ask a very specific like give us a specific scenario like I

Andrew Wilsonthink you'll get the answers that you're looking for I mean the spe specific scenario wouldn't even be relevant but I could just give I'll give you one just to give you one I guess I think that so there's money there's there's money

Andrew Wilsonthere's an inheritance of $100,000 okay it's left to both of the members of the household not just one okay and they're arguing about how to spend it and the man is saying okay listen uh I've heard

Andrew Wilsonall of your reasoning I've heard heard all of your everything right I've I'm hearing you right I'm compassionate towards you but also no we're going to spend it on this instead

Becca Sliderum relationship why would it not just be split I don't to me it's sent to both of them it's 100 Grand they each get 50 and they can do what they want with it yeah and also in this scenario are their kids

Andrew Wilsonlike he's saying no right he's saying look well that's kind of no he's saying no I don't want it I don't want it split I want it going towards whatever this household thing is so already I don't

Carlyhave respect for the person yeah yeah this seems like such a stupid question it's about like respect not about like like you can't just give

Carlyone person ultimate power and it really once again depends on the situation like it's a partnership it's a relationship you both talk about it and like depending on the situation yeah maybe

Carlysomeone will make the final say but it depends and you still have to have that conversation and you still have to have that respect yeah so then so then in this situation we're talking about Authority then right

Andrew Wilsonthe man really doesn't have any Authority because ultimately if he says listen this is super important to me and I know it's super important to you too right but I'm not willing to budge on it because I really think I'm right here

Andrew Wilsonyou feel in that instance it's totally appropriate for you to and I quote get a that's a divorce right so then this this would infer that you actually have a lot of power in this situation a lot of

Andrew Wilsonpower in this Dynamic that a man wouldn't have or wouldn't exercise so if that's the case right it would basically make men want to steer clear of marriages like that right because the the position of authority would not

Carlyactually be there yeah well I'm saying divorce in terms of if he came up to you and he was like this is what we're doing you don't get to say like that's how you kind of like or that that's what I took from it the first time that's not the

Andrew Wilsonthat's not no he listened to what you had to say everything you had to say he just thinks that what you had to say is incorrect and that ultimately it needs to go the way that he wants it to go

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)because he thinks you're incorrect so if that is the case right then we're still if we're still in divorc territory then you what you're doing I never said we were still in divorc territory I would say that you have to have to recognize

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)everyone's skill set right so let's say that the woman tends to be better with money in this example and the man is better um I don't know let let's say he's like a contractor so he's not into

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)investing and he the conversation is around like what do we do with this inheritance so historically speaking she's been more accurate and More well-versed in finances that would probably go to her and then if it was something in his wheelhouse so it's just

Andrew Wilsondependent on the person specialty I think is probably but that's not what's in dispute it's it's not in dispute that these two people would have variety of skills all those skills could be variously applied there could be skills

Andrew Wilsonshe's far better at than him the hypothetical is looking towards we're not able to compromise on this one thing whatever it is there we're not

Andrew Wilsonwe're not able to come to an agreement right we're just not able to so this this would again state that there would have to either be uh somebody makes the

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)concession right or you part ways I don't I don't see a way around that exactly right but then earlier you said no one's holding that position permanently but you you want one answer like absolutely it's either absolutely

Andrew Wilsonthe man or absolutely the woman and then everyone that's asking for cont no no no no this is a critique that was a critique of your worldview so I just conceded that even if it was the case that they did not that both parties did

Andrew Wilsonnot permanently hold this position it still doesn't answer to the question of when you hit this impass right how do you deal with it when one won't compromise because they or they both think that they're right one person

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)would have to ultimately be the person who was conceited to right and it's whoever excels in that Dominion so again it it's if it's finances typically that ends up being the man traditionally speaking so if it has to do with money

Andrew Wilsonit's going to be the man if it has to do with the kids or people I would say it's the woman yeah then you're then you're taking the feminist position how's that femin because what you're doing is you're saying that there's a shared Authority there's not it's not

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)necessarily Authority and I think that there is a difference between leadership and Authority like leadership is looking for counsel and it's not just dismissing anyone else how can you have authority with or leadership with no Authority I don't even know how that's how how

Andrew Wilsonthat's done leadership to me implies that there's Authority that you're that people are seeing you as an authority of some kind they're looking to you as an authority of some kind I'm not even sure that you can have leaders because you're

Andrew Wilsoninstilling respect and in that respect the person is choosing to follow that's the difference well yeah but even what regardless of why they are perhaps it's because you show them respect or something like this they would still have to conceed some sort of Authority

Andrew Wilsonfor leadership right would would you like us to be in relationships where we see to authority of a man it has nothing to do with what I would like I'm just asking this question I I just I don't actually think

CarlyI don't actually think I'm getting an answer to it okay you want an answer here's your answer from all of us from what I've heard at least from the people talking it depends on the situation A relationship is a partnership nobody has

Carlyabsolute say over anything and if you seriously are in an argument that's that deep and like you can't compromise and both people are not like they're not willing to budge at all then why are you

Carlyin a relationship like the whole point of a relationship is you guys are equals and yet you have different responsibilities maybe some people have different things that they focus on that they do but in the end it's not about

Andrew Wilsongender it's not about who has more power it's about the situation and like well that really wasn't I mean that's your view yeah but that really wasn't her view her view was she thought a man

Andrew Wilsonshould generally lead right A man should generally be in a position of authority but then when we die when we hone in on on it it looks like more more that there's a shared Authority which is more of a feminist position so I understand

Andrew Wilsonyour position I get it you you you were clear on the outset you believe that men and women should share Authority in a relationship I get it I understand I'm not disputing that I'm just looking at the idea of if you think a man should

Andrew Wilsonmostly have authority I don't know what the hell that actually means if we reduce it to well unless he's not really good at it and then the authority moves over to the woman I'm not sure how we even make these determinations unless

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)you're seeding to your own authority well that's because this has been like dragged out and you're not accepting you're not accepting anyone's answer so initially my response would it's it's trusting the other person so yes the man

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)can absolutely lead but there's a difference between a leader and a tyrant so if you have the man that's leading and you respect his decision you come to an impass what I originally said which wasn't accepted was that in my 15-year

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)relationship this has never come up because in that Dynamic nothing has been at an impass and if anything was it was mutually tabled until we could revisit it and come to an answer so it wasn't me

Andrew Wilsontaking I know why you're saying I don't I because that answer wasn't accepted or I accept that you're answering I'm not accepting that you're giving an actual answer so that is AB question the

Andrew Wilsonquestion is not in your personal life have you ever had an impass with a man or your husband or whoever that's not the question the question is not asking that not asking about your personal situation cu they don't give a [ __ ]

Andrew Wilsonright the question is asking uh specifically if Authority is to be shared the dynamic is to be shared then who ultimately makes the decision for who even gets to share the authority

Andrew Wilsonright if it's going to be you you get to make that decision then it can't really be that the man is in Authority most of the time because it would infer there would at least be an inference here that you're sharing Authority with yeah you

Becca Sliderwould decide that ahead of time I think this goes back to communication I think and the fact that everyone's saying all relationships are different I think if you're conversing about this with your partner ahead of time it's like okay let's talk about Authority let's talk about who gets the final say are there

Becca Sliderareas that you feel like you want the final say in and how do I feel about that are there areas I feel like I want the final say like we talked about kids money all of those things you can create so many like eliminate so many problems

Becca Sliderif you just have communication on the front end and talk about what feels good for each person it's going to look different in every relationship but that would be what I say there is just no this you're wanting this overarching umbrella it sounds like of like this is the way it is this is the way it should

Becca Sliderbe that's it and it just doesn't really it just doesn't really work because I haven't told you anything that I want like all I'm doing is this this is so that you know okay she made a claim she

Andrew Wilsonsaid most of the time I think a man should be in a position of authority so all I'm doing is exploring that idea by asking her okay but if the position of authority is actually shared how's he

Andrew Wilsonreally in Authority that's that's what we're diving hang on hang on hang on hang on that's what we're diving into right I'm not disputing that you could make pre-arrangements with somebody for who has Authority who doesn't I'm not

Andrew Wilsondisputing that you can't have long conversations and walks on the beach at night to make determinations about decisions in your life I'm not disputing any of that I'm just trying to determine who ultimately if Authority mostly

Andrew Wilsonshould be in the hands of a man gets to determine that Authority then and if it's you aren't you really the authority

Carlysit here while she's gone I mean I feel like you know we've kind of said like it's like we just keep repeating our answers like sorry that is not the answer that you're looking for but I

Carlymean everybody's different and like you know if someone's in a relationship where like the man is considered like you know head of the household um you

Carlystill have to make those big decisions together and like yeah maybe he'll he'll decide like what he wants to eat for dinner or like something smaller but I personally feel like in terms of like

Andrew Wilsonreally big decisions like that you can't really have one person fully take over but once yeah I understand that I I've but I I've always understood your view

Andrew Wilsonyour view is equality you're so you just so you know your view is different than the view of the girl next to you the girl next to her and the girl next to her I'm only exploring one view of a

Andrew Wilsonperson who's not you right so therefore I would like her to answer the question cuz she's her and not you who has a different view hang on who has a different view than she does so back to

Andrew Wilsonher I'd like to just you know if you don't mind we can just finish this real quick I'm I'm actually still act confused right so perhaps without the sister Hood getting involved with their view which I don't give a [ __ ] about and

Andrew Wilsonjust your view if it is the case that Authority is shared right uh or not in your case you say the man should mostly be an authority are you the are you the

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)determined of that no and again so in well then who is who is the determiner it depends on the subject so L there have been conversations where and these are exact

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)conversations if it has to do with health if it has to do with medicine if it has to do with food if I has to do with the kids it is you I trust you entirely to make these decisions that has been conversations in my relationship and then I say if it has to

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)do with money that's him all day I'm he'll ask me once in a while what do you think about this what do you think about that and then he'll Ely does whatever he wants like that's my Dynamic and I'm very happy seing ultimately to your Authority no not at all because if I

Andrew Wilsondidn't want to do something with money yeah well hang on you are I'll show you so if you say if you're if you're saying on all of these different situations I me he assigned them to me okay but the

Andrew Wilsonones you assign to him let's say right I trust you to do these things X you know a b c d whatever it is right M so what happens if you fail or fail to trust him

Andrew Wilsonon a one of these particular issues right you're still going to see to yourself you the person as to whether or not this should be followed or not followed which would actually put you in a position of authority right that's

Andrew Wilsonnever happened in my relationship I know I'm not asking if it's happened I'm just telling you that the consequence would be that you are still in a position of authority because no because I've relinquished that with with what they

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)agreed upon in subject so if it comes to you relinquish it based on your Authority though and you'll bring it right back the second you need to no trust me there have been plenty there have been plenty of financial like bombs

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)and I have said it and I have disagreed like till I was blue in the face and he still pressed forward and I let him do that and I did it's not like yeah you let him yeah because I could choose to

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)nag I could choose to like make his life a nightmare I'm not right because that is so that if you want to use your terminology that is submitting right that is letting him lead right not really not really in the case of this uh

Andrew Wilsonit's still the the question is still kind of who has the authority ultimately because if you just say well I will see these things over because I want to because I choose to this and that it actually doesn't really infer Authority

Andrew Wilsonlike you're not really giving him the say of for instance um let's say let's say you're in a Christian marriage um the gal here the deconstructionist she

Andrew Wilsoncan probably confirm this right the belief there would be that uh the man is in Authority regardless of what your personal View Viewpoint is on what it is

Andrew Wilsonthat he's doing right you you're supposed to see the authority to him so the the question here is rooted who has ultimate Authority is it you or him if you're just seeding it to him because

Andrew Wilsonyou want to then it would imply that you still have kind of authority well in the Bible it does talk about submitting to each other a man and a wife should submit to each other yeah sure sure I'm just I'm giving you an example of a view that's it so that I can explain when

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)we're talking about authority authority means in charge not in charge because you allow it that's the point well we live in a country where relationships only exist because of consent so you're talking about allowing like it is allowed because now we're getting into

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)non-consent territory yeah so so in this case then the position of Authority for a man is make believe it's not make believe it's be a a strong enough man have follow

Ayathrough be competent and confident so that you have a woman that follows you a man is physically larger so everything that you do techic is because he's allowing it right because he could

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)physically stop you yeah that's true too yeah

Andrew Wilsonso so anyway so so yeah when we're talking about Authority though it would it would just seem to infer then that men don't even even if you are saying

Andrew WilsonI'm following you because of XYZ reason right you can retract that anytime you want it's not really a position of a Authority like for instance if you were

Andrew Wilsonin a uh a workplace right you couldn't you couldn't go to your boss and be like you're not the boss anymore no but if he you couldn't do that the only thing you could do the only thing you could do in

Andrew Wilsonthat case is like leave you know what I mean but you couldn't you couldn't usurp the position of authority right because that would infer that you were actually the boss if you could go to your boss say you're not the boss anymore I'm the

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)boss who actually has the authority see what I'm saying mhm yeah but do you think that there's not a distinction between a work relationship and a romantic relationship like the duties aren't different and how you show up and what you're looking for sure I'm yeah

Andrew Wilsonsure I'm not talking about those things I'm just talking specifically about Authority here who has Authority in relationship is a threshold breaker I and I guess it' be the same thing with a boss is like in a workplace who has the authority in the workplace it's your boss not you right so it' be the same

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)it'd be the same thing do you see Authority and Leadership is exactly identical cuz that's like the thing that's kind of making they're not they're not identical I just don't think I think that leadership implies Authority are are you trying to figure out where the power lies like are you

Andrew Wilsontrying to point that power fundamentally lies in somewhere yeah I well I don't think that men when when women say that uh you know my man has uh Authority or this type of

Andrew Wilsonthing I don't know that that's actually the case because it seems that uh the authority is granted from them the authority it almost seems circular so just to clarify your position what would

Andrew Wilsonbe an example of something where a man truly has Authority he's your boss at work so in a romantic relationship I mean yeah that's not what you asked you asked what would be a POS a position I

Andrew Wilsonknow I asked it but I I used the words wrong my my intent think in the I think I think in the west it I would be hard pressed to give you an example of where a man truly has Authority okay

Andrew Wilsonyeah okay uh do you want a closing thought on that Andrew or is that sufficient for you yeah you and you have all the authority yeah well it's just it's just the what looking at is just uh

Andrew Wilsonwhether or not we're we're dealing with the feminist view or not so I understand the panelists have the feminist view of equality egalitarianism this and that but she actually said something different which is the implication that hey Men actually mostly should have

Katrinaauthority but then when we reduce it it's like H maybe not so much maybe not so sorry I missed what you were saying what was that I just said that Andrew you win you have all the authority like it just depends on the

Andrew Wilsonperson and the man I guess I don't know like you're making it seem like super helpful to the conversation I appreciate it that's basically what I got out of

Katrinait big strong man wait so you're saying Andrew has all the author I'm just confused I'm a little confused I just like you know in his relationship he's got all the authority and that's what he's trying to

Andrew Wilsonprove is that like you know every man should be like him right is that where was any where was any of this stated like it's just all head Cannon so what you should say is Andrew I'm about to make a bunch of [ __ ] [ __ ] about

Andrew Wilsonand then say it out loud for reasons nobody understands you should just lead with that say anything just said yes sir yeah he's just lead with I'm about to make up a bunch of [ __ ] and then say

TTS/Donationsit out loud for reasons not nobody understands H Andrew there's a chat here coming for you uh Jane slice donated

TTS/Donations$200 this creep gave me herpes and never did his own dishes or laundry he smells like chinger cheese and camel smoke and

Brian Atlasrainbows sorry for Mar smoke mar mar Boro Mar maror I don't smell [ __ ] camels all right well we're going to move on to the next

Brian Atlasthing uh going Let's uh oh Aya you sell your eggs yeah yeah so hopefully one day on your website you haven't done it yet no but you do say if you're interested in using my eggs to reproduce you're

Brian Atlasdown to discuss this in exchange for payment for your time and fear of needles you have ancestry Health testing and family history that you can share uh have you had any inquiries or at all or

Ayanot yeah yeah we've I've talked with some people we might we might do something I just did my first round a couple months ago first sorry what first round my first round of freezing round oh you're freezing the okay so you can like uh just sell those then yeah

Ayaalthough I think we might get genetic engineering soon so I think I would maybe like a whole bunch of them to do a genetic engineering experiments on interesting okay how much you sell them

Ayafor uh ideally about 100K wow would you do surrogacy or no I don't think so like you carry the child seems why it seems like I could pay someone else to do that oh well if someone's like five mil I

Brian Atlaswould definitely carry a child for $5 million for5 mil all right uh now into something kind of pretty interesting um there is a gang bang flow chart we have to pull

Andrew Wilsonthis up can we pull up the Tweet sir Damian uh so why don't you tell usland is that is that back Gangland something like that do you got it Daman yeah okay pull it up please okay uh this

Brian Atlasis your Twitter for my birthday my partner and some friends organized a huge gang bang for me 42 attendees here's the break Lily loves this one here's the breakdown of how the event was organized there were exit survey

Brian Atlasstatistics and what it was like for me psychologically why don't we pull up the next tab with with the actual graphic okay um make put us on the uh other side

Brian Atlasso there were a uh 1,600 respondents uh 800 failed the auto filter uh seven about 700 pass the filter uh 250 you

Brian Atlascontacted half but like half of those didn't respond there's 83 who didn't interview 87 got invited 56 got tickets

Brian Atlas43 did STD test uh 42 showed up five of which did not bang Aya 37 penetrated Aya

Aya17 of which came in AA five came in the fluffer 15 did not climax um I love that this show is like the logistical nightmare of so many questions for you because when you were like you're doing

Ayaso many guys I was like can I ask you about the logistics It's Tricky honestly you should do a flowchart amaz I need you like on the I would love that AOW chart do the flowchart for uh for uh

Lily Phillipsyeah I could do it right I love the tracking the the data and stuffff really we could check corations you need a flowchart yeah I feel like also it's great to have someone to like verify things MH like he did penetrate yes they

Ayahad me do they had me do Sharpies on my leg to track what was happening and that helped a lotp and then they signed a guest book afterwards there was a guest book yeah okay so they write a little like note or yeah it really sweet um

Brian Atlaswere there rules like do they get the time limit or how does that yeah I think it was like a Max of two minutes per guy cuz you know it really adds up um did you like was there one that you liked and you gave him like next to 30 seconds or uh there

Ayawasn't it was really a blur the very first guy was a virgin and he they popped confetti when he entered me and then he shouted Leroy Jenkins um as he started [ __ ] me or banging me

Ayawhatever uh which was yes I have that ready to go W lovely yeah and I was like this is an interesting experience to be in I like it when things are sural though wait he

Ayawas how old was he the Virgin I don't know mid mid 20s maybe he also wore a heart rate monitor and then gave me the data of his heart rate is he diabetic or what no he just I he just offered it like do you want to see my heart rate data and I was like please wear a heart

Lily Phillipsrate monitor for the yeah so he lost his virginity in a birthday King bang okay yeah only one although you did how many virgins did you do I've probably done

Lily Phillipslike maybe five virgins okay I did it I did quite a lot cuz I did recently a 50 man anal gang bang and I took a lot of anal virginities recently so wow what

Lily Phillipswait you hold on like you pegged no no no then I I got [ __ ] all of them

Brian Atlasthe ass ARS yeah okay congrats yeah there was a lot of anal virgins though wait I got to ask Lily so like is this

Brian Atlasactually recorded though yeah yeah yeah I'll show you I'll show I feel like some of the like I don't know if it's the case for you but I've heard these stories like these girls will like make up these kind of elaborate scenarios

Brian Atlasthat are just not actually true um but this is actually like recorded I'll show you all the evidence don't you or I yeah we can't show on but some you know some of these people like make this up because it's like for the clout or whatever but you

Lily Phillipsactually did it yeah I did it with another girl as well um Tiff so she can vouch me as well all right okay um and have you done multiple of the the gang bang no I just did it that one time I

Ayaactually didn't like it very much singular gang bang yeah okay you didn't like it I just want to see what it was like yeah it wasn't your thing no because you have to be like oh no I feel bad for the guy like is he like is he feeling okay like I want to make sure that he feels fine and then you like Let

AyaGo your the reason we tried that gang bang in the first place was because I was running an orgy and these people ran a train on me I think it was like 15 11 guys or something that was a different that was a different a different or this

Ayayeah I isn't that a gang bang no org is like all genders gang bangs is all guys and let one go I mean it was like kind of a impromptu gang bang if you will in the middle of this orgy half a gang bang it I throw like non-consent orgies so

Ayayou wear a wristband and people can do like whatever you want they want to you within a certain period of thing anyway so I was wearing The Wristband and just like threw me down it started it was like it was a train and it was [ __ ] fantastic afterwards I was like glowing

AyaI felt so good for days it was like I had done like a really good psychedelic and then I was like this is so amazing and so my partner saw that and he was like wow sounds like it was really good for you he's like so for your birthday I'm going to try and arrange like an even bigger one but I think like the

Brian Atlaslogistics of the bigger one just like it the magic wasn't there sometimes that takes away from it I does AR Ariel here speaking of the mic you had a really big reaction to the did you want to say

Unknownsomething eron I'm just like kind of intrigued like I've never heard of it before ging Bings honestly like good for you guys I don't know I'm just learning

Brian Atlasnew stuff she's learning she's learning all right um wait so you've done multiple uh grape play orgies CNC yeah

Brian AtlasCNC consensual yeah I run a series how many have you done of these eight I think seven or eight yeah and so uh YouTube's a little tricky with it um

Brian AtlasI I understand it basically though um you describe yourself on Twitter as a wh Lord yes and a vex vex worker indeed um what is a wh Lord uh the Lord of [ __ ]

Ayayou're the Lord of [ __ ] yes okay the Lord of I thought it was relatively self-explanatory M

Ayalady okay you're you're the Lord of them uh yeah I mean I I write guides on how to do it if like if a girl's interested getting into it you a horror guide yeah like like how to be the best [ __ ] it's

Brian Atlashard to be a good wh how you even get into it it's hard like how do you stay safe I tried once just um you tried how was it I'm just joking um but uh okay so

Brian Atlasyou you're kind of like the the Lord of [ __ ] yeah I'm kiding myself at this point um in Vex worker what's that are you a witch well I think people really get mad at me a lot for things that I for a while I didn't know they were

Ayagoing to get mad at me before and now I've started to catch on um and so people seem to be very vexed by me they're vexed they are vexed why are they how are they vexed uh oh I think people are like horrified by a lot of

Ayalike I ask a lot of like moral conundrum polls which I probably can't repeat on stream um but or like for example uh moral conundrum like uh can I have a

Ayamoral conundrum yes oh can you say what well can I talk don't bring up the miners don't bring them no not it's not it's um um like like is beastiality wrong and are you a

Ayavegan you talked about this at dinner when we were um in Colorado H oh yeah oh yeah I did see some of your tweets on this uh it just seems like a little funny that we have different standards

Ayafor uh like intercourse versus killing and eating like I know if someone were going to do one to me I would rather not be killed and eaten okay and so anyway this an example of uh people seem to get really mad at

Brian Atlasme for that one but I thought it was relatively straightforward sure uh and then let's see here you said you built a dating survey you picked the top guy from that you were not attracted to him

Brian Atlasbut you brute forced through the first date uh you guys spent three days at Airbnb brute forced it um and You'

Brian Atlasforced yourself to have sex with him yeah that's my current partner oh that's your current uh for four years does that upset him does that upset you know like

AyaP sex was it P sex it was a bit of pity sex no I think it was curiosity sex I was like I should probably try it you forced yourself yeah I he he just scored I had a survey that was scored so people answer questions and then if the on the

Ayaback end that I built it and then you get an output and then I contacted the top scorers and then he was like one of the very top scorers and so I was like date and I pointed I made a graph of the scores and pointed at him and he said

Ayasure 3 days in Airbnb and I was like great so I went to an Airbnb for 3 days which was the first time IID like seriously talked to him and then I was like well if I'm going to figure out if I should date you I should probably have sex with you I was not attracted to him

Ayaat all he was really annoying to me at that time but he's much better now do you want kids uh I would like to have genetic Offspring genetic Offspring okay with with him or yeah well he doesn't

Ayawant to it's a very long story that probably is not going to get communicated but I I think probably the world's going to end relatively soon uh and I think he's like working on that

Brian Atlaspretty hard to stop it I mean oh yeah I was like [ __ ] apocalypse uh he's trying to stop it the end of the world um oh I'm just curious because you said

Brian AtlasI feel like you can't if you do have kids you cannot tell them I wasn't feeling your dad at all like I wasn't into why can't I tell them that well you you could I definitely tell them that oh you'll definitely tell them that yeah if

Brian AtlasI did if I had them do you tell like he's not upset by that like but it's the truth I sure it's the truth but I mean it feels like it would be hurtful if the person who you're pain is just coming

Brian Atlasinto contact with reality and then when you're in contact with it it doesn't hurt anymore I need LSD for this um but uh no I'm just kidding uh no it's just like you know what I mean like if I told

Brian Atlasif I was dating a girl and I was like BTW I thought you were ugly at first and I had to I like yeah I faked an orgasm I

Brian Atlasjust but would you want to know that I had to like force myself to have sex with you like I feel feel like she would take it the wrong way you know what I mean I mean he told me that I wasn't that pretty once uh when I was trying to

Ayahave a 10 you posted a tweet about it have it pull it up pull up the Tweet um yeah that was pretty rough I was like ow damn yeah like it's actually he just said you're not that pretty yeah he said I'm not that pretty because I was like

AyaI'm afraid that people you know how people like kind of tell each other girl you're so hot I'm like everybody's incentivized just say positive things about each other's appearance like I don't actually understand and I did actually run a a face rating survey so I

Ayacould determine my attractivness and I'm a 4.6 so I'm in fact actually not that pretty interesting yeah you should uh we we should get you to do some like

Lily Phillipssurveys for our podcast I no wait she's doing my survey first I will do both there we go we we have we've collected quite a bit of data from the show uh it's pretty inter really like what oh I

Brian Atlasmean nothing on the scale of what you're doing but simple things like uh total appearances like the breakdown of um like who's involved in sex work the amount of people who've canell who what's the percentages do you know uh I

Brian Atlasthink it's about 15% of all the panelists have been involved in sex work or only fans or something like that um and uh yeah I'm trying to think if there's anything else age um

Brian Atlasrelationship status the sort of thing so oh cool yeah do you have like in a spreadsheet um sort of yes it's very rudimentary though so we can talk after

Brian Atlasthe show though and uh it'd be interesting to get some some stuff down um do we have her tweet pulled up all right so this is brutal uh and scroll down because this is like a quote tweet

Brian Atlasin response to somebody else scroll down don't go too far though uh put us on the other side all right just just hide us for a sec all right so this is your response uh being a girl's boyfriend is all about

Brian Atlascommitting to the bit that she is a 101 and the most beautiful woman you have ever seen scroll up and then you write can uh scroll up AI let me just have you read it in your voice uh one of my partners was like you're not that pretty

Ayaduring a tender moment I rolled over in the fetal position and groaned for like an hour and then he went and made me an I'm sorry card out of construction paper and markers and stickers okay so this is this is the guy who you told like you

Brian Atlasforced yourself to have sex with him and you weren't attracted to him yeah and you told him this yes how did he take that he was like oh he's just like oh no no reaction well I mean attracted to him

Ayanow okay now you're attracted to him yeah how many like did you have to force having sex with him like multiple times or I think the six got better by about the sixth time the sixth time okay all right huh and now

Becca Sliderit's a best sex I've ever had in my life Li you got you got something or pin Oh I thought you it sounded because I because I don't think I would have given till the sixth time so I'm just impressed that if it wasn't good by the second I'm

Ayadone well I think there are other benefits going for him like he was really high status in my community and I think that that's quite attractive and so if a guy is like really uh like uh interesting for other reasons um usually

Ayayou can like be like all right I'm going to go make myself have sex with you because I'm interested in bonding with you and you say uh when you say your community what do you mean like CNC rationalist Community ration what is

Ayathat it's uh do you have you heard of Les wrong less less wrong less wrong it's a long story I don't know how much time I want to take no it's a Blog it

Ayawas a Blog it's written by Ellie owski about like how to think less wrong so it like covers a lot of cogn biases and like we do prediction markets I did a prediction Market when I was coming on

Brian Atlasthis show of whether I'd regret it if you regret it yeah and it's said 27% 27% chance you would reg would regret it oh that's pretty good yeah it's not that bad pretty good not that bad how's it going so far little regret yeah no

Ayaregret so far so far okay all right um so but yeah it's a lot of like how do you actually develop true beliefs about the world because a lot of the time when people are thinking things they're not like making like really concerted efforts to make their beliefs map onto

Ayareality so if you can like make it so that if it hurts if you're wrong that means you actually are incentivized to update in a way that most people are like really enjoy lying to themselves about a lot of things so you use a correspondence theory for truth um I

Andrew Wilsondon't know what that means well you just said that uh the truth is the thing which maps on to reality is that correct yes correspond

Brian Atlasthat's correspondence theory okay um just moving on here you said that you study fetishes with an emphasis in gaps in sexuality between males and females you've collected what is probably the largest comprehensive

Ayadata set on human sexuality in the world are you like published in any like journals or scientific like academic journals I don't get clearance by the IRB I have no academic Association or formal training so it's uh we I did

Ayathere is one paper that is going through the things right now in conjunction with Jeffrey Miller um who's an academic and e pych but uh yeah I I did a survey that basically I designed to go viral and it

Ayadid successfully go viral and now we have a total about 800,000 completed responses for a was a 40-minute survey of extremely exensive about human sexuality so there's a whole bunch of interesting stuff like if you want correlations about body count I have a whole bunch of

Andrew Wilsondata the kinds of people that have high body count versus low body count yeah no I looked at some of I didn't look at everything you've published but uh it's interesting stuff you said that there isn't isn't it true that often times and I saw some deleted tweets you can help

Andrew Wilsonme out with this but often times your sample sizes for these various surveys you do they're they're pre-loaded with tons of teenagers yes it's it's a primarily young I think the average age is 22 with like a median is a little bit

Ayalower than that isn't that a pretty biased sample size uh absolutely it's not a represent not representative of the general population but there are ways to check I mean why should we take any of it seriously then like any of

Ayathis data that's a great question actually so the majority of all published data in sex science is uh either equally or more so biased than what I have and also there's like methods of checking wait wait wait hang

Andrew Wilsonon let's start let's do a claim into time here before you get galoper around uh what is your demonstration or evidence that most sex scientific data is more biased than your data uh by biased I mean the selection effects

Ayacause it to be less uh representative than the general population like what uh generally it's uh you get like 30 to 4 undergrads in a college is very

Andrew Wilsoncommon yeah but that's not a demonstration that most sex data is bias in comparison to years even if that was the case that would not be proof or evidence that more of it is bias than your own data uh you can I mean mostly

Andrew Wilsonit's just from reading a whole bunch of papers I just have read a bunch of papers and also talked a bunch of academics yeah but how's I mean how's that a demonstration though that most

Andrew Wilsonsex data is less biased than your sex data which is loaded with teenagers who are uh definitely not a good sample size of the general population at all uh you

Ayayes so there's there like really interesting things about like how to balance selection effects uh to develop like good extrapolation so one you can also pay random samples to sort of spot check to see in what ways that your

Ayasample deviates from the normal population um which I do this often I will if there are things that seem particularly unusual I will go spot check to see exactly how different my sample is yeah that's just a basic

Andrew Wilsoncontrol like these are all using the that basic control I I would assume would be present in any professional SE unfortunately is not it really isn't I know I know it's shocking uh but most

Andrew Wilsonsex research what's the percentage where basic controls are not being used in sociological studies which are being done at universities uh I have not a made a spreadsheet out of all of the

Ayastudies that I have read and whether or not they have controls yeah so you don't have anything backing this up at all what do you have a spreadsheet I don't need one you're the CL you do actually how many how many papers on sex research

Andrew Wilsonhave you read if let's say I made a spreadsheet right now and I just put all of this is [ __ ] and then mapped out that it's all [ __ ] what would that have to do with anything that we're talking about wouldn't I I would not need a spreadsheet in order to question

Andrew Wilsonbasic methodology when you make these bold claims like oh my my uh studies the ones that I'm doing actually are less biased than ones which are done by professional universities and I say wow that's a really bold claim I'm sure you

Andrew Wilsoncan demonstrate that you go no actually I can't I actually can't demonstrate that it's like well then why should any of that be taken seriously um I've just read a whole bunch of studies and the vast majority

Ayaof them like the biggest data sample size I've read maybe is like 8,000 people um and generally for example if you're looking at BDSM I was like oh I wonder what uh research has been done on

AyaBDSM and the kinds of people who like BDSM compared to my sample for example um and most of the research is for example people will go to BDSM forums and then they post a link to the survey

Andrew Wilsonthis is academics this is the published research on this it it's not great this one this is one I'm giving an example of something that is very common for all I'm not listen I'm not looking for your outlier examples of when they're not

Ayaoutliers they're you know you don't have a spread right you need to have a spreadsheet to show that all the control basically all of the studies on BDSM that I can find it's possible that there's a bunch of

Ayathem I haven't found that all of them my seriously have good control PL Che for peer review study really uh not the not like the thing is you don't necessarily have to right it depends on the kinds of things that you're measuring it's very

Andrew Wilsonspecific on are going to be the controls are going to be variable based I need you guys to both make a closing statement on this I don't really find this particular material to the no good reason so I went through a bunch of your

Andrew Wilsondata right and since it's preloaded with essentially teenagers on Twitter teenagers in other places who are overloading the sample size not representative of anything like nothing

Andrew Wilsonthere's really no good reason to believe at all even if it were hang on even if it were the case that it work true that it's still less biased than what is is uh being put forward by sociologists and

Andrew Wilsonsex studies facilities somewhere or universities that still wouldn't prove your data's good even if all their data was wrong still wouldn't prove your data's good uh I agree it would just prove its bias uh but it selection effects not necessarily biased but in

Ayageneral I agree and this is why there's lots of techniques that we can use to determine exactly the ways in which it is not representative um and it's a long story but I can go into all of those techniques that I have

Brian Atlassorry he said it was a oh he asked me to do closing statement so I thought that I supposed to time time permitting we can maybe come back to the uh discourse about validity of uh surveys and

Brian Atlasself-reporting and so forth but uh I do need to move things on um but you did a uh there you said there's a about a 1.5 time ratio gap of dominance for submission in both directions you mean

Ayalike in relationships or no in general like if you are you talking about BDSM uh like for when I asked the men which was like 250,000 people or something um this holds true even if you delete all

Ayaof the teenagers and you look at older people um but uh the people who report like around 1.5 as many women report being into submission as there are men who report being into dominance and there are also around 1.5 uh times the

Ayaamount of men interested in submission as there are women interested in the amount of dominance it's just the absolute numbers are lower which is really fascinating okay interesting um there's a few more notes but I need to

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Brian AtlasLucas uh let's see Lucas says question from from wife if husband is one impeccably competent virtuous and moral

Brian Atlastwo he's in New York City big law partner attorney uh three seven figures so bread winner four 6'4 in shape five uh oh question from wife I get to

Brian Atlasbe the stay-at-home mom should I submit to his authority unconditionally I guess going around the table if you want to answer that question I don't understand it was so basically it's a question from a woman

Brian Atlasfrom the wife so her husband is um is awesome attorney High earner tall attractive physically attractive she gets to stay

Brian Atlashome she doesn't have to work uh stay at home mom uh should should she submit to his authority unconditionally going around the table unconditionally unconditionally I'm afraid that if I just I'm going to take

Andrew Wilsonso many issues with the definitions of words that everybody's going to be annoyed unconditionally what do you what do you mean I absolutely love getting into the definition of words in well we already talked about this particular

Ayaconversation for quite bit and see if we agree or disagree I mean it's condition on him being him right so like if we enter a transhumanist future where you slowly change all the atoms in his body until he no longer himself you cannot

Ayaunconditionally be only one person question H it to a transhumanist future it is conditional right there is no condition under which one would not submit and I just find that anyway this

Andrew Wilsonis why I'm saying we should uh people will be annoyed well then well then the answer would be no yeah yes yeah so then I don't know why you needed the word to find if you already knew that the answer was no that's really weird it almost

Andrew Wilsonseems like you're being pedantic I am a weird person no no no that's not weird that's that's pedantry and the thing is like if it is the case that you know what's being as and then you purposely office gate right

Andrew Wilsonthat's what I was talking about earlier about low tier just so you know that's what that means oh thanks for letting me know I'm low tier you're welcome at

Danielleleast your philosophy is unconditionally no okay Lily what about you no no no not unconditionally

Daniellenope I will say say yes in the sense of if he's you can always say your peace you say your peace he can compromise and and

Danielleif he does respect you and love you he will change his answer to at least compromise if he doesn't change the answer to compromise then unfortunately like you can walk out tomorrow I guess

Upgradeand then you're just going to be homeless sure what about you no I think all relationships have rules and if someone is breaking those rules then

Brian Atlasthey have to reconsider the relationship altogether okay all right thank you Lucas for the message we have meet the Kaiser says what's up Brian quite the panel good back and forth earlier

Brian AtlasCandice and Andrew is the best team up I've seen on the internet since Eva evaa and Abella danger okay all right uh have fun or cheers whatever they say in the

Andrew WilsonUK thank you Candice had a bunch of really mean things that she said about me even though I've never talked about or discuss her or even knew anything about her she said some really mean things entally the video Brian I would actually like her to respond to all the

Andrew Wilsonmean things that she said she made a lot of horrible allegations too that weren't true I just I don't know if is this something you want to get into or I mean if that's what you want would like I would like to get into it because you said some pretty mean things about me

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)and I didn't what did I ever do to you I didn't kick your puppy or anything well no but I think you would probably agree and correct me if I'm wrong but if you decide to be on the internet and make content then you're going to be subject to other people having an opinion on it

Andrew Wilsonno yeah the great thing is though is that when I make commentary on what other people say I don't lie and do my research you li multiple times what did I lie about me well you you made a here's the most serious allegation you

Andrew Wilsonsaid that I had a belief that if men cheat uh and women cheat that it's okay for men to cheat and not okay for women to cheat or I'm sorry vice versa it's okay for men to cheat not okay for women

Andrew Wilsonright I don't know if it was not only have I literally never said that once the opposite it in fact emphatically you also pulled me in with red pillars of which I'm not I'm a Christian ethicist

Andrew Wilsonright you lied over and over and over because you didn't do any research whatsoever and I would like you to answer this to like why you think it's okay to lie about people on the internet who have never done anything to you well I I certainly didn't lie and you'd have

Andrew Wilsonto pull up the exact tweet where I'm naming you specifically I don't need the tweet I have the clip I sent it to Brian we can I know but it has to it has to be addressing who I'm talking about because you've had multiple say my name Andrew you say my name Andrew and then go

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)through and accuse me of these things I do I say Andrew yes I don't know okay we can pull it and I'm I mean I need to PRI Andrew I

Brian Atlasyou sent it to me 20 minutes before the show I didn't have time to review it I have to pre-screen it before I show it live um were you talking about Andrew Tate no it could have been Andrew no it could absolutely have been Andrew Tate

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)and then there have been well hold on because you're asking a question I'm not being allowed to ask ever unless Andrew Tate is it it could have been whatever but here's I honestly I didn't know your name until I was coming on the show to be honest so if I said Andrew it could

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)have been me misspeaking cuz there have been other men that were hosting on here and then it was a clip that I don't even know how old it was um I think it was a different Studio as well it was referring to one of the male like either hosts or guests and I'm not sure what

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)his role was okay so well then why would I say it about you if you didn't say it there was a clip on this podcast that's that's what's in question I don't know why you would well then I would have to find the clip in question so that's not like you

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)don't have to cuz I sent it no I'm I'm saying I would have to oh my goodness this isn't a conversation I'm saying I would have to find the clip that I was commentate on commentating on because it is possible that maybe I said the wrong

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)name and if that's true I would apologize there my intention is not to lie but there was absolutely a clip that I saw on this podcast and I again I don't know if it was a a host or a guest

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)and the argument was that if um if a I don't think it was you I think it was a younger host um and maybe he wasn't a host maybe he was a guest but he he was saying that if uh man was abusing his

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)wife that it was the wife's duty to seek counseling within the church and not divorce but if the woman cheated that that would be grounds for divorce like that was the clip that was circulating is it possible that it got edited and what I watched was not true and that's what I'm saying if I was prepared I

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)could come with the clip that I was commentating on and if the clip was inaccurate or if I miss said the name I will apologize without like any embarrassment whatsoever cuz I don't want to missp or lie that's not my

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