3x RAGE QUIT! She Did 100 Men In 1 DAY?! 1,000 NEXT?! Lily Phillips! Eva Lovia! | Dating Talk #227

Date: 2025-02-12

Duration: 7h 37m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAya (Idaho/SF)>

CCandace Horbach >

LLily Phillips >

BBecca Slider >

CCarly (SB/LA)>

KKatrina (Ottawa)>

DDanielle (Ontario)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Carly(guest)

SPEAKER_04Danielle(guest)

SPEAKER_05Aya(guest)

SPEAKER_06Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Patrice O'Neal (clip)(audience)

SPEAKER_08TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Katrina(guest)

SPEAKER_12Becca Slider(guest)

SPEAKER_13Lily Phillips(guest)

SPEAKER_14Upgrade(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAya introduces herself: 32yo, from Idaho (homeschooled, Calvinist), lives in SF. Researcher who also does escorting. Was top OnlyFans creator. Charges $4K/hr for escorting.

“all right I am Aya uh I'm 32 years old M uh my location is here but I originally came from Idaho and now I live in SF”

QuoteAya describes her escorting work: charges $4K/hr, met a client at her hotel the night before the show.

“I Char 4K for the first hour and then a th each additional hour okay how many did he just do the one or was he like a baller”

IntroCandace Horbach (Eva Lovia) introduces herself: 35yo, adult industry 2001-2017, now podcaster, based in NC/Austin. Graduated from Coastal Carolina University. Stage name Eva Lovia.

“my name is Candace horbach I'm 35 I was in the adult industry from about 2001 to 2017 um I left I started a podcast”

IntroLily Phillips introduces herself: 23yo from Darbyshire, England. Adult star. Discusses her 101-man-in-a-day challenge (October 2024) and plans to do 1000+ to break the world record (currently 1057 by Bonnie Blue).

“I'm Lily Phillips I am 23 I'm from darbishire in England I live in London um adult star”

QuoteLily Phillips announces her goal to break the world record for most men in a day (the current record is ~1057 by Bonnie Blue). Plans a "conveyor belt" setup.

“yeah H yeah so you're going to do a thousand in a in a day yes I was watching Australian check already do that”

QuoteLily describes upcoming skydiving sex scene project.

“at the end of this month I'm doing a Skydive where I suck a guys Park skydiving sex scene yeah somebody's done that I haven't seen anyone do it”

IntroBecca Slider introduces herself: 43yo confidence coach, speaker, podcaster, top 1% OnlyFans. Was ordained pastor for 10 years. Deconstructed faith ~5-6 years ago.

“I'm Becca slider I'm a confidence coach and a speaker and I host a podcast and then I'm also a 1% Creator on only fans”

IntroCarly introduces herself: 21yo, originally from Santa Barbara, lives in LA, studies marketing, part-time fashion model.

“hi yeah I'm Carly I'm 21 and I'm originally from Santa Barbara actually but I live in LA right now um and I go to college and I also model part-time”

IntroKatrina introduces herself: 35yo bartender from Ottawa, Ontario, high school education.

“my name's Katrina from Ottawa Ontario Canada I'm a bartender since I was 17 I have a high school education”

IntroDanielle introduces herself: 30yo from Elmont, Ontario. Studied addiction and justice studies. Worked for the Government of Canada.

“hi my name is Danielle I am 30 I am from Elmont Ontario uh very small town uh I went to school for addiction um along with Justice studies and police foundations”

IntroUpgrade (returning guest) introduces herself: 22yo singer-songwriter, here for her third song. Sings Etta James "At Last" a cappella.

“hello I'm upgrade this is my second time on the whatever podcast I'm 22 and and I am a singer songwriter”

IntroAndrew Wilson introduces himself: host of The Crucible, political analyst/satirist, engages in debates worldwide. Declines to sing.

“I'm not going to sing a song no sh no my name is now you have now I'm the host of The Crucible to popular entertainment Channel on YouTube I'm a political analyst”

QuoteAya reveals she showers only ~37 times per year (record low 14-17 in 2019) and her 2022 stats spreadsheet tracking all activities.

“showered 37 what uh lowest amount of times you've ever showered in a year uh I think it was like 14 17 I think 17”

QuoteBecca admits to pity sex with her husband while pregnant with third child — "wildly insatiable" during pregnancy.

“yeah yeah when I was pregnant shit you know uh yeah I mean pity but it because when I that sounds really bad when I was pregnant with my third I wanted sex every day it was it was insane”

ControversyAndrew Wilson debates Katrina vigorously about her role "running" a prostitute friend, arguing that acting as a pimp is "unadulterated evil" and parasitical. Katrina defends her intentions as trying to help.

“pimp is so parasitical a literal parasite on society almost as bad as a prostitute herself”

QuoteCandace formally apologizes to Brian for making a video misrepresenting him without doing due diligence, then bows to him (rated B-minus by Brian).

“I'm so sorry that I didn't do my due diligence and I just took the gossip train and then made a video that got a lot of views and misrepresented you and your show”

QuoteBrian shows "bow video" of ex-girlfriend bowing 45 degrees and doing his laundry, cooking dinner after he came home at 1am from a podcast.

“this is a video I took of my ex-girlfriend I came home it was late 1:00 a.m. after a podcast boom huge do you see the bow deep bow that was a 45 degree angle”

ControversyAndrew challenges Lily on the "unconditional parental love" debate — argues that cutting off contact for a child doing porn is not abandonment but maintaining behavioral standards. Goes in circles extensively.

“how about this what if I mean wait that makes wait wait a second that makes no sense so if it is the case they don't want you to do only fans”

QuoteKatrina's notable quote about body count: "if you give sex away for free you might as well get paid for it, ain't nothing worse than a broke ass hoe."

“if you give sex away for free you might as well get paid for it ain't nothing worse than a broke ass hoe in my opinion”

QuoteLily Phillips says her body count is between 500-1000 when asked.

“range what was it last time can't remember what I said last time cuz last time I I still didn't count last time um I'm going to go right now probably between 500 to 1,000”

QuoteAya reveals precise body count breakdown: ~109 unpaid, ~450 paid clients, total ~550.

“uh probably low 500s and 109 free wait 109 free like unpaid unpaid okay how many do you think paid or uh well I have a CRM”

ControversyAndrew challenges Aya and Candace on scientific methodology (controls, sample size) during body count/study discussion. Goes on for over 20 minutes before Brian cuts it.

“studies are all shit you haven't read my studies dude listen yes I have dove into your studies which is how I knew that teenagers were over sampled”

ControversyAndrew tells Candace to use a "sing-song voice" if she wants him to treat her with respect, sarcastically mocking her complaint about his tone being disrespectful. This pushes Candace to her limit.

“from now on when you talk to me I need you to use a sing song voice The singest sest Voice you can possibly think of because otherwise I feel disrespected”

OtherRAGE QUIT #1: Candace Horbach rage quits. Brian confirms "she rage quit." Andrew had pushed her too far with tone/condescension complaints. She said she was going to check on her husband, then left.

“I'm going to go check on her I'll be right back I okay that's fine uh all right she Rage Quit”

OtherRAGE QUIT #3: Becca Slider and others (Aya, possibly others) also leave at same time as Candace. Brian attempts to get Becca back, saying "is Becca coming back?"

“we we got we're wrapping up I'll you Candace we're Candace Candace I think we're done it's so pass for anyway”

OtherRAGE QUIT #2: Andrew Wilson voluntarily departs, citing 3am and the show being almost done. Acknowledges his presence was offensive, says his job is to challenge worldviews.

“I'll I can see that my presence has been very offensive it's 3 o'clock in the morning anyway that's my dip time yeah it was very very nice to meet all of you”

QuotePatrice O'Neal clip played: "If you didn't have a vagina, how would you keep your man?" Guests answer with mouth, hands, other holes, cooking. Brian plays the reveal where Patrice says "you just classified yourself as a series of holes."

“ladies if you didn't have a vagina like say it was a terrible train accident right and the doctor was like we have to remove your pussy right away or you're going to die how how would you keep your man”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions & Background

All 9 guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation, education. Includes Aya (researcher/escort from Idaho), Candace Horbach/Eva Lovia (adult film actress/podcaster), Lily Phillips (viral 101-man adult star), Becca Slider (ex-pastor/confidence coach), Carly (model/student), Katrina (bartender, Ottawa), Danielle (Ontario, addiction studies), Upgrade (singer-songwriter), Andrew Wilson (political analyst remote).

Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares their relationship status, longest relationship, and context. Highlights: Aya (polyamorous 4yr open relationship), Candace (married 15 years, open during her career), Lily (single 3-4 years), Becca (divorced after 21 years, ethically non-monogamous), Carly (5mo single after 5yr relationship ended by cheating), Katrina (8mo relationship), Danielle (2yr relationship), Upgrade (2yr relationship with 41yo man).

Aya Pre-Show Notes: Homeschooling, Sex Work, Data & Polyamory

Brian goes through Aya's pre-show notes: evangelical Calvinist upbringing in Idaho, homeschooled, escaped factory work via adult content. Aya discusses her annual stats spreadsheet, shower frequency (37/year), LSD addiction, Lex Fridman interview, and polyamorous relationship. Debate over subordination of women morphs into semantic debate with Andrew.

Should Men Lead in Relationships? / Subordination Debate

Brian asks whether men should lead/be the "head" in relationships and who should get final say in a marriage impasse. Andrew frames it as a "threshold breaker" question. Most guests say it is circumstantial; Candace and Upgrade favor traditional male leadership. Aya goes full semantic on meaning of "should." Andrew clashes with Aya over philosophical definitions.

Eva Lovia / Candace Pre-Show Notes & OnlyFans Fraud Discussion

Candace discusses her career as Eva Lovia, her disclaimer on OnlyFans (entertainment only, no AI/chatters, to protect against delusional fans). Brian raises concerns about fraud by OnlyFans creators who use chatters/AI while claiming personal interaction. Aya reveals she tried a chatter and income skyrocketed but it made her sad. Discussion of body count stats and body count survey data from Aya's research.

Bear vs. Man Debate

Brian asks the classic "bear or man in the woods" question. Most guests pick bear. Andrew and Brian argue the position is logically equivalent to a racist position if applied to a demographic group, making it sexist. Upgrade says picking bear is sexist but may come from personal experience.

Becca Slider: Ex-Pastor to OnlyFans, "Pussy-Based Confidence"

Becca explains her journey from 10-year ordained evangelical pastor to confidence coach and OnlyFans creator. She discusses "pussy-based confidence" (sexual creative life force), Christian deconstruction, the role of fear in Christianity's foundations, bisexuality since age 16, swinging then open marriage, and her coaching philosophy. Andrew challenges her framework as a form of dogma/programming.

Katrina: Running a Prostitute, Drug World, Show Notes

Brian reads Katrina's pre-show notes: she has two moms, "ran" a prostitute friend (did makeup/calls/driving) as an attempt to help. Andrew debates the ethics of pimping vigorously with Katrina. Katrina describes discovering her "gangster" boyfriend having sex with a male friend (traumatizing experience). She says ain't nothing worse than a broke hoe.

Candace Apology & Bow to Brian

After Brian reveals Candace had made a video misrepresenting him (based on unverified secondhand Special Forces claim), Andrew pushes her to apologize. She eventually does, apologizing for not doing due diligence. Brian then asks her to bow — she does (rated B-minus). Discussion of the "bow video" Brian made of his ex-girlfriend.

Self-Rating Round (1-10, no 7)

Brian asks each guest to rate their own appearance 1-10 (cannot pick 7). Aya: 4.6; Candace: declined/no number; Lily: 8; Becca: 8; Carly: 6; Katrina: 8 (with makeup)/4 (without); Danielle: 6; Upgrade: 6; Andrew: 4-5. Andrew lectures about women lying about their self-assessments in social groups vs. men who call each other out. Long debate with Aya over semantics of "judging."

Lily Phillips Parenting / Sex Work & Unconditional Love Debate

Brian asks Lily whether she would have done OnlyFans if her parents gave an ultimatum. Debate spirals into Andrew challenging whether parents cutting off contact for sex work is "abandoning" the child (Lily's view) vs. maintaining behavioral standards (Andrew's view). Most guests feel unconditional parental love means maintaining contact. Andrew says love can coexist with behavioral standards.

AI Age Progression & Gender Swap Photos

Brian shows AI-generated aged versions of all guests (10+ years older) and gender-swapped versions. Comedic segment; Lily's aged version prompts "crypt keeper" jokes. Guests react to their gender-swapped versions and whether they would date/sleep with the male version of themselves.

Body Count Round & Discussion

Brian asks each guest their body count. Lily: 500-1000; Aya: ~550 (109 unpaid, ~450 paid); Candace: 9 personal + ~12-20 work scenes; Carly: 23-28; Danielle: 8; Katrina: under 35 (excluded coerced encounters); Upgrade: single digit; Andrew: did not give number. Discussion of whether body count matters (Lily: makes you better in bed; Becca: patterns matter more; Candace: 9 personal; most say circumstantial). Aya's survey data shows median ~5, raising to 10 by age 40. Andrew and Candace debate sample size and scientific controls.

All Day Foreplay / Viral Clip Discussion (Candace)

Candace describes her viral Twitter clip about "all-day foreplay" — the idea that women's arousal has more on/off switches (stressors = brakes), and that men following through on commitments reduces stress and improves intimacy. Andrew challenges this, arguing data shows women are most attracted to men who DON'T do chores (traditional masculine non-domestic behavior), that what she's really describing is feminist relationship dynamics. Extended debate about whether follow-through is masculine or if asking men to do chores is attraction-killing.

Rage Quit #1 — Candace & Others Leave

Andrew's confrontational tone throughout the show reaches a breaking point. Candace's husband texts. After hours of debate, Candace says "I'm going to go check on her [wife]" and leaves. Aya stays to wait for roast. Brian says "she rage quit." Carly, Becca and others also start to leave. Brian pleads for them to stay.

Andrew Wilson Rage Quit / Departure

Andrew acknowledges his presence has been offensive and says "it's 3 o'clock in the morning anyway, that's my dip time." Insists he wasn't trying to insult anyone — his job is to challenge worldviews. Lily tells him they're not getting into this anymore. Andrew says goodnight and leaves.

Roast Session

Final roast session with remaining guests (Carly, Lily, Katrina, Danielle, Upgrade). $30 TTS messages come in roasting all guests. Highlights: "Lily Phillips father" donates for her chair; OJ Simpson character asks Carly about a skin tag; Thor says "make low body count great again." Brian offers Lily $20/hour to stop sex work. Patrice O'Neal clip played about "how would you keep your man if you had a train accident."

Makeup Removal Challenge

Brian brings out makeup wipes (Neutrogena brand, debated). Carly and others try to remove makeup on camera. Light segment after emotional episode.

Transcript

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Andrew Wilsonintention but I can't do that because I don't have the clip I don't even have a phone yeah unfortunately I can't uh debunk this if there's if if we if we can't play it but what I am going to say

Andrew Wilsonis this is like you it definitely was an attribution and a mischaracterization of anything I've ever said and uh and total total nonsense uh so yeah I did I did want to

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)uh get into it but if we can't get into it we can't get into yeah and again I don't think I was saying it about you cuz I don't know the guy's name he's like cleancut younger dude they could have just B me without a

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)beard you know no no I'm sure it wasn't you because it the guy like he looked like he was in his 20s okay and his name was Andrew I don't know that I again I don't have the clip so I can't say it and if I said Andrew

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)it could have been me just using the wrong name because I I literally had my producer like send me little bios of you guys before I came here quote those guys uh who host that show right they like

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)nothing better than to be in a room so that they can abuse women and you'll never see them debating with men well there yeah and you would say that there have been there have been good conversations on the internet with

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)you that are treating women with respect like that's what this podcast is known for is really reasonable conversations where everyone is mutually talking to each other with respect yeah that has not let's let's assume for a second everybody's always fighting on here and

Andrew Wilsonyelling at each other and screaming at each other so what that has nothing to do with your claim that the men on here would much rather be sitting across from women and debating with women because they're essentially you're referring that they're a bunch of cowards and

Andrew Wilsonhere's the thing that's so funny is like I actually am quite famous for debating men around the world especially on these topics right um it's in in some ways

Andrew Wilsonright uh I've been accused of of uh it's not dignified enough for me to give you guys even the time of day yet I think that that is actually a very

Andrew Wilsonmean-spirited thing to say I think that you guys deserve if you have arguments and things like that to have them heard out I that almost seems like it's anti- misogynistic to me and that you have a misogynistic position well I don't

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)believe that that's true at all I don't think that you're genuinely here to like listen or change opinions on anything and because that doesn't make good cont thousands upon thousands of opinions it may not change yours but remember that

Andrew Wilsonthese uh clips and Views go out to millions of people and the idea is not and this is every debate which exists by the way the idea is not necessarily to change the opponent's mind the opponent is there to represent their worldview

Andrew Wilsonand I'm here to represent mine it is not necessarily to change your mind though that has happened too It ultimately is to put our World Views against each other and see which one makes more sense

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)at least to the general public so yeah I think I I've changed tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of Mines even sure but I mean to count to push back on the idea that you would be accepting of

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)having men on the show there have been multiple times and for example there was a Navy SEAL friend of mine that was supposed to come on the show with a girl um to do the debate flew in and was

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)turned down at the door after they paid for all of their expenses and I've heard several of those stories um and then I was supposed to come on with a friend too who is former special ops he couldn't come on um because he ended up

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)having to shoot a movie we were going to replace him and they're like actually no we don't want any men and and if you want you could bring a girlfriend so I mean that's not entirely honest either

Brian Atlasde many hold on Andrew let me address that um so let's address your first point who who came on who was turned away from the door literally never happened totally fake news but who was

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)it oh I don't have the name it was like a friend of a friend gu it's a seal that's going around B we booked a Navy SEAL so it didn't happen so it didn't happen yeah I mean so we you're claiming

Brian Atlaswe booked in Navy SEAL he showed up at the door that's what I heard he was scheduled to be on the show with a a female yeah female and he was turned away yeah this is entirely fake news um do you know who the girl was no and then

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)I also heard and then I also heard from like one degree of way um and I'm not going to like say his name but that he's had friends come on the show and like that their mic was muted the whole time and or that the content gets edited in a

Brian Atlasway to like make them look well hold on let's we can address some of those different arguments but let's start with the one of us turning a Navy SEAL away at the door first off um are you sure he

Brian Atlaswas booked because sometimes women will show up with a dude no I'm not and maybe that was misund um like girls will show up with like a plus one that wasn't

Brian Atlascleared by us and we're like the only people in the who we allow in the building have to be scheduled to be on the show um sometimes girls will bring their boyfriends and they'll try to like

Brian Atlasoh can I hop on the show we've I don't even I've don't even think I've talked to a Navy Seal in any and I do all the guest booking I do all the guest booking okay so I'm very close and familiar to

Brian Atlaswho does and does not come on the show this is entirely fabricated okay so I don't know why some Navy SEAL you'd assume this is a person of good moral character is lying about being booked on

Andrew Wilsonthe show I sent you that particular accusation she makes it in the clip I saw the clip this person yeah this person you know um showed up at the door everything was paid for they were invited this type of thing totally

Andrew Wilsonfabricated absolutely facated and here's why here's why I take issue with it right to be to be to be fair um why is it that I'm not allowed to ask you like did you even did you ever even reach out

Andrew Wilsonto Brian to confirm that did you ever do any research on it before you decided that you'd put that out there to thousands upon thousands of people you didn't even bother right you didn't even like bother to even ask about it you just put it out there and it's like so

Andrew Wilsonof course I consider that to be slanderous and lying and nonsense right because I mean did you do any due diligence to verify how many episodes do you have men on that have opposing opinions so it's just pattern

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)recognition so if me saying that you don't have men on debate you don't have men on debate look at the table right now you don't have men on to debate how's that relevant to the actual false accusation no it's relevant to saying that you don't have men on to debate and

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)we've had Destiny Destiny who's like one of the strongest left one person so it's almost like that exception is actually proving the rule like if it was normal that you would have like I mean that's that's the format of the

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)show sure that's yeah exactly though so why but why is that the format does but why is it always just women but okay how does that pertain it's not always just women it's usually just women the other

Andrew Wilsonthing is the exception hold on we brought on bivo well hold on bivo bivo is not I've done I've done a multitude of debates on whatever between myself and men just by ourselves in the studio in fact and there's been other times

Andrew Wilsonwhere there's been men on these panels and I'm happy to debate them I debate with men all over the world use STS right what percent are men we need a how how does that pertain to the false accusation like that's a

Brian Atlastotally R yeah it's a you're I don't know if it's Shifting the GL post or whatever but um I mean i' I almost be prepared to do a wager here if you can

Brian Atlasprovide any sort of evidence mind you I've spoken to thousands of people right I'm so confident that this is totally fabricated and made up that a Navy SEAL show up at our door we had him on

Brian Atlasschedule and then we're like oh actually no [ __ ] you you spent all this money to come here never happened I mean show me the evidence show me the I'm happy to inquire about it for sure show me the proof I will pay you know what do you

Andrew Wilsonwant to do a wager on this I'm ready to do wer no I'm not betting cuz I mean I have no idea I'm I don't have the game he's just he's just he's just joking around right we're on YouTube G Brian would never make a wager what he's

Andrew Wilsonsaying is is like he's just so confident in that that you know he was being a bit tongue and cheek there but ultimately that's why that's why I wanted to

Andrew Wilsonaddress this because I'm like well okay like how many Fabrications has this uh girl made about this podcast and about its host that are just completely not true but then they get out of the ethos

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)like they are true well no and then so anecdotally speaking obviously that that doesn't say anything at scale but um I think the first time I was invited on the show was probably like 2 or 3 years ago and it was in response to a clip

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)that I had going was called canceled weekly with Gerard Michaels and Mickey G and the response was to have me come on but not the other two co-hosts that were male and so that I'll look at the

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)message history and yeah I don't know if it was to me or Gerard if like there was a group I'm not sure um but like they the invitation was extended to them and then when JT was supposed to come and

Brian Atlasthen that got cancelled then the response was you got canel by him just be clear we had you and him yeah not canceled by him or I'm sorry not canceled by you by him yeah absolutely

Brian Atlasso we were prepared to have him and you on the show he cancelled and then we were like well do you still want to come fine you didn't want to do it but um yeah no I reached out you reacted to this clip of me having a back and forth

Brian Atlaswith this obnoxious woman who came on intentionally to troll the show and I had to kick her off the show um but as it pertains to the kind of initial reach

Brian Atlasout which was back in February of 2024 um you said you wanted to be a guest but the stipulation is the guys have to be able to join and I said we could accommodate excuse me we could

Brian Atlasaccommodate one of your mail guests uh so we didn't outright deny them but I was like well we can have one we typically only like to book two people together okay it's just kind of our

Andrew Wilsonpoliy here's here's my further challenge you can get anybody who you want uh who has issues with any of my views who's a man you can stack that whole panel I'll fly out there and debate all of them in

Andrew Wilsonperson happily M and here's exactly what will happen nothing they'll all lose the debate I'll laugh hysterically that'll be it's a perfect day like go go let him know okay

Brian Atlasyeah and just to like actually and if you want to verify this but in March I said we could accommodate one of your male co-hosts and I asked if you primarily wanted to debate the kickoff

Brian Atlasof that one girl who came on and trolled uh to which he didn't respond I checked in a week later checking in checked in two weeks later hey just wanted to follow up one last time see if you're still interested did not hear from you

Brian Atlasuntil September of 2024 uh wanted to see if they're still an invitation JT he wants to come on um

Brian Atlasand then uh let's see we locked you in for or wait hold on when did we lock you in for uh oh we were in a group chat so I

Brian Atlasdon't seea we were in a group chat so I don't see the and then we shifted the conversation there we had you sched at some time in the fall he canell a week prior because of a movie I don't know

Andrew Wilsonwhatever not a big deal people have to reschedule not a big thing but I think that would indicate that we were prepared to have a m a male guest title the clip title is says Andrew Wilson

Andrew Wilsoncringe just so you know my name is Andrew Wilson and there's never been to my knowledge another Andrew Wilson on the just letting you know that the C is

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)called Andrew Wilson cringe it sure seems like you are referencing me if it's called Andrew Wilson I'm just that's the editor unless my name my mouth said your name which I don't think

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)it did it did I mean it did it said Andrew and then says Andrew Wilson cringe okay so I might I was probably talking about Tate and then the editors probably put your name I have no idea cuz I don't have the clip why

Andrew Wilsonreferencing Tate I don't don't know I don't have the clip I don't have the clip

Brian Atlasokay okay um look sorry guys I mean I don't want to linger too long on The Meta conversation because it's you

Brian Atlasknow whatever um but and wait just really one thing yeah just Andrew he wants to pull up the clip um you said that there were like other people who

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)like we kicked them out or like we like denied them at the door that's what heard yeah from like a a friend we denied them at the my friend's friend and like he

Brian Atlasdidn't see he didn't seem like a a liar so yeah wait so just and just so I understand the situation correctly we had him on schedule like he showed up that was what was no but he showed up and we like that's what I was told

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)that's what I was told that it was only like she the only the woman was allowed on so yeah never happened never happened if you can I can't argue cuz I don't have any I don't have anything so I'm not arguing feel like we're like trying to make an argument when I'm saying I I

Brian Atlasdon't have an argument no I'm not really arguing with you I just want to clear clear the air because um I think it would be kind of rude to like invite somebody on they spend money to come here and then we're

Brian Atlasjust like oh [ __ ] you we've never done that it sounds crazy that would be super fun we've never done that never I mean uh I

Andrew Wilsonmean there's there's like opposition I give you a story of a time where there's been regret like Ryan's like maybe I shouldn't have invited this person but man they spent this money to come out here so I'm going to let them on anyway

Brian Atlasright like that's more Brian's attitude than the alternative MH yeah um anyways I don't know why people are making up these these lies um

Brian AtlasI'd be curious to see I mean you don't have to show me but obviously not now on the podcast but I'd be curious to see the actual uh basis for these claims because it's completely dubious and

Brian Atlasfalse um but and also like I I mean I don't know anyways whatever why we just play the clip and then we'll move on to the next

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)thing what who [ __ ] this is not I'm talking about go ahead just play it and I'm pretty sure speak on this is if a woman cheats or she's Unfaithful because her man's not he should her so a GU

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)allowed to exit the relationship and um her behavior is no is never justifiable if he cheats nothing but compassion she deserved it just super hypocritical Beauty sex is terrible but also don't weaponize it so it's a this and thing and you have to check in with it and I'm curious how long any of these people have been married and how many

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)children they have and how happy they are because there's also this idea that no matter what you have to say in a relationship especially if there's kids and I don't know that that's true I think that they deserve to see their parents in love and if you can't make that happen I think there are way worse things by sticking it out for the kids um that's something I've kind of come

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)around on as well so I've uh I don't know I hate this I hate this person so bad we were actually supposed to go um me and a friend go on the show I don't think it's going to happen because we did some due diligence and they in the past have brought on a Navy SEAL he flies all the way to Northern in California to do the show knock knock

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)actually we don't want to have you on and it's because if you bring on a man especially in Alpha these guys cannot stand it they cannot stand it all they want to do is sit across from women and Bully them and Badger them and dunk on them and it's just an excuse to um exercise actual sexism and I don't use that word a lot because I don't think that it is as prevalent as it used to be

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)and as much of a problem but with this community it absolutely is um please don't get your relationship advice from there like look for healthy healed whole masculine Role Models this is not it if you are blaming half of the population for all of your problems and they ANW it's always just women it's always just eag girls it's always whatever you might

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)be the problem buddy so so this was on Duty sex this wasn't on um the beating or the divorce or cheating I think that was in reference to a a duty sex

Andrew Wilsontweet yeah I got it it was that's not what we were talking about earlier though we weren't talking about it's referencing me and the position is actually incorrect again the referent is

Andrew Wilsonwrong do we have your Tweet on duty sex incorrect what's that do we have the tweet that was on duty sex yeah so this is a what you're referencing is we're talking from a Christian paradigm

Andrew Wilsonso from a Christian not it's not a statement that women have or don't have duty sex it's a statement from the position of the Christian or the Muslim Paradigm or let's say you know X Paradigm that within that Paradigm there

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)is a duty that women have to fulfill their in the the obligation of the marriage and part of that would be sex yeah yeah yeah it just seems like we're talking about multiple like we're talking about different things because

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)initially we were talking about um abuse and cheating and divorce and then now we're circling to dir to duty sex and then when I see Rachel Wilson in the comments um I don't make my titles I

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)don't think anyone does so when it says that I'm I'm that's not me so I don't know yeah I know but she said you did your due diligence I did we did our due diligence we checked into this and the

Andrew Wilsonwhole thing's [ __ ] what due diligence did you do I'm commenting on a tweet on duty sex that's what I was doing yeah no no no you said we did our due diligence when it came to the Navy SEAL and this type of thing oh my due

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)diligence was asking reference is that I trusted so I mean why you ask Brian wouldn't that be your due diligence well no it wouldn't because if I don't believe that he's an honest right but we but we've no cuz we've never met before

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)and all I've seen is like a wa can I ask you one yeah yeah can I ask you one question well no I'm I every time you ask me a question I get cut off and then if I try to talk then you guys are like no let me finish talk way more than we

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)have just so you know but go ahead I was you're asking what my due diligence was and I was saying that I asked people that had said that they were either on the show came on the show they experience so it's people that I

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)would know or trust so to reach out to someone that I already kind of see as a position of being in an adversarial position like there's not really any there's not trust built so if I you say something I don't know you or your

Brian Atlascharacter so I mean just one question though did you hear it directly from the said Navy SEAL I can't say I'm not like sometimes throwing people under the bus you a friend told you that they knew

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)somebody who knew a Navy SEAL like was it I can't cuz it's going to give people away I know I'm sorry but it's not I'm not asking who it is I'm just asking did you hear it from the person I know but the line of questioning is going to like throw certain people under the bus that

Andrew WilsonI'm not I mean they throw me under the bus but that's fine whatever um in any case um don't even like reporters when

Andrew Wilsonthey a story that they're commenting on contact the source and verify it like just ask him hey did this even happen like how hard would that have if it's due diligence like how hard would have actually been to just say hey did this

Andrew Wilsonactually happen I guess we disagree on how I should have approached it and that's fine well yeah I mean I I'm guessing that you would not appreciate me putting a video out to hundreds of thousands of

Andrew Wilsonpeople which was filled with besmirching lies about you if I didn't do my quote due diligence and maybe like I would have just DMD you i' would have been like hey is this actually true like is this actually what's what's going on and then I get the other side of the story

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)right I'm sure you would actually appreciate that more wouldn't you I I mean I would absolutely but if I have full trust in someone else and they tell me something and they've done nothing to allude to the fact that like I need to

Andrew Wilsonbe doubting what they're saying then like why wouldn't I believe them I don't because you did your due diligence I guess that's what that's what it means

Brian Atlasright but anyway all right I mean also just to like I guess provide you with an opportunity to potentially even verify the story like if you want to get up and like text the individual and be like hey

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)is is this like do you have any evidence for this like what were the ask and then I can ask if he's willing for me to share it sure I could do that I'm happy to I mean I feel like it would be important for Navy SEAL to like that

Brian Atlasseems kind of like a position of ver uh I don't know Integrity honor like should he should clear this up I agree I think you should

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)clear it up yeah I agree with that I don't know that seems fair yeah I'm willing to I'm willing text the person yeah that seem that seems reasonable but um I mean I can tell

Brian Atlasyou uh yeah just tot I'm not trying to argue I'm willing totally fine yeah that's totally fine but uh and you said there were like other people who also got turned away I was curious about that

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)too same it was the same person the same not the same individual like the same person like was putting feelers out and they've had um I don't know the girls names but like a bunch of

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)like their girlfriends have come on and like they were sharing stories with um with him and then like there was a couple stories where guys got turned away but it could have been what you were saying right where they weren't approved and they weren't supposed to be

Brian Atlason the show in the first place there I mean we get uh dozens of messages a day of people requesting to be on the show so when it comes to yeah but I mean we turn people down if they DM us hey can I come on the show we send them a very

Brian Atlasthoughtful message like we don't just like most people just ignore DMs like that we every single person who DMS us even if we're not interested in having them on the show we say hey unfort

Brian Atlassomething like unfortunately at this time we um you know we uh can't have you on it's a little more diplomatic than that but can't have you on the show but we'll we'll keep your DMs if anything

Brian Atlaschanges we'll be sure to reach out so we turn people down like in the DMS but we've never had somebody like booked to be on the show and then we like they

Brian Atlascome to the studio at the door uh don't really nah you can't be on it never has happened happened ever hasn't happened to a male hasn't happened to any women

Brian Atlassure I appreciate you clarifying like I said I'm happy you know what there was one woman who she showed up unannounced with a service

Brian Atlasanimal it was like a Chihuahua that [ __ ] was not a service animal and I was like and it was barking it was barking and normally we would try to accommodate somebody with a service animal but it

Brian Atlaswas clearly not a service animal it was not trained to um to do a certain task MH and he was barking which would not be reasonable it would not be a reasonable accommodation like we can't we're

Brian Atlasrecording audio we can't have a barking down dog in the studio so in that instance we did turn her away although we did offer her like could some could she came with a friend I was like can

Brian Atlasyour friend watch the dog that's the only instance where we're just like we can't have the barking dog in the studio and we turned her down that's the only that's come to my that

Brian Atlaswe've ever turned anybody way and for good reason mhm but

Brian Atlasyeah again all right whatever yeah um oh um we have a couple chats unless Andrew you wanted to was there more there or I don't know yeah I did just

Andrew Wilsonwant to point out like I do have a video in front of me you have my tweet up right that's the reference you're definitely talking about me but you're Mis you're you're literally misappropriating the position even in

Andrew Wilsonthe Tweet then you go on to say that basically Andrew is a beta male don't listen to him don't listen to these guys they're awful they don't know blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah right but the thing is is like when you're

Andrew Wilsontalking about viewpoints you're talking about from the view of right so if I was going to reference a view that you had and say from your view is XYZ true why is it true I understand why and then I

Andrew Wilsonwould always make the reference to the Christian world I'd say here's why it's true from from the perspective here you would you would then go maybe back and forth and you could say hey you know the Christian view is wrong and here's why

Andrew Wilsonetc etc in this case though you didn't even refence that that that the Tweet was from the view of the Christian reference it yeah right but again due

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)diligence do you know that you could have just dueil hey what what what's this meshing up so many things in this one argument so we started with um me talking about the um about the clip I

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)thought we were talking about a totally different clip initially when we first started this interaction so I thought we that's why I thought I was thinking well um Rachel is saying that I'm like intentionally lying I'm saying I didn't know which clip we were talking about

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)it's not intentional I thought we were talking about a younger like that one younger co-host that I think you used to have talking about cheating and abuse specifically in regards to divorce and then the discrepancy there that was a totally different clip that I'm now

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)realizing we wer no I'm just establishing that I'm not I'm not intentionally lying there's just confusion as to what content we're talking about moving on to the Tweet about um Duty sex if you're talking about this and there was more context

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)like obviously things get taken the wrong way in a tweet so if there's like more interpretation that you have in regard to duty sex happy to hear whatever your take is on that the way that I read that tweet was that basically from a Christian view from a

Andrew WilsonChristian view why well it could be Christian husbands wives hang on wives and husbands have a duty to sleep with each other from a Christian view yes no and I would agree with you can find this in Paul when he's talking about depriving right depriving each other

Andrew Wilsonsexually he says that's a nogo Christian view there's counseling which revolves around this specifically that that neither party is to deprive the other party of this thing there's no if ANS or

Andrew Wilsonbuts about it this is not something that um I I even think is a controversial view right but it's being mischaracterized here and the reason you're mischaracterizing it is because you're trying to make it seem like

Andrew WilsonAndrew Wilson's a monster and what he's trying to do is say that women have an obligation to have sex at the demand of their husband and it's like well that's not only such a mischaracterization but we could have cleared it up in 5 seconds you could have just asked and I would

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)have been like here's actually what's going on you know what you're doing when you're tweeting too which is why you're successful and why you have a big c account and why you get so much engagement so like there is a little bit

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)of that edge when you are going to Tweet so it's not like I just fell into this tweet and intentionally misrepresented you and it was just it was like a blame and mischaracterization what you're saying is that it was a bay tweet you f

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)no I'm saying that you're very good at what you do I'm saying you're very good at what you do and you're good at ruffling feathers and you know that people like could have fallen for the bait though if you had done your D we're

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)not doing du diligence on a tweet sir why not because it's a tweet right it's black and white text right there and if you do something that oh it's black and white now there's more context well no

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)there's not there's not context well now that you have like more um characters available but there's not especially if there's a shorter tweet right you want it left open to into interpretation

Brian Atlasthat's the whole point good job it worked due diligence would be like wait what did you mean by this right no because I do got to move it on I do got I do got to move it on it was um but uh

Brian Atlashere I got to do a couple chats and then also uh here we'll do uh a couple shout outs on venon cash app car KY Karm I

Brian Atlascan't pronounce this I apologize uh Karm this jerk off smokes darts W Ava rip August I don't know okay oh it's a thank

Brian Atlasyou for the 25 on venmo and then Joshua buron Joshua thank you for the 10 on uh wait what the heck uh Sean thank you for the 20 Colin

Brian Atlasthank you for the 50 Joshua thank you for the 10 guys W's in the chat for all them and then we do have a couple chats coming in there we have graffo thank you man sorry sorry for the delay

Brian Atlas$200 due diligence equals trust me bro Heard it Through the Grapevine yo graffo tag thank you for the uh TTS I do very much appreciate it guys W's in the chat

Brian Atlasfor graffo we have three more reads coming through here in just a moment uh let's see pull that up really quick you can pull those up yeah uh oh yeah why

Brian Atlasnot you can show that's fine all right there it is thank you Ivan for the uh Super Chat all right we have Harry baghdaddy okay great name Trad men have Stockholm syndrome you are free you

Brian Atlasdon't have to push her in her chair anymore women's Liberation equals men's Liberation okay Harry baghdaddy thank you so much for the uh message man really appreciate it we have another chat here coming in in just a moment

Brian Atlasfrom our good friend Jason cassella guys if you want your own chat to come in it's 100 for Reed at intervals TTS 200 Jason says chair One Stop the ACT you're not cute you're not that smart Andrew was bet beginning to dismantle your BS

Brian Atlaschair too are you trying to sabotage the show maybe do your research to find out the facts okay do you guys want to respond to this or no I don't think I'm trying to sabotage the show I think that I've been respectful the whole time mhm I agree I don't think she's trying to

Brian Atlassabotage she's engaged no I came in with good faith and I just to be clear I just saw that clip like Andrew sent yeah so that was not pre-planned or anything to go to the accountability part I feel like I've been very open about like

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)either me making a mistake or being open to the fact that I had false information so I think I'm absolutely being accountable I said if I'm wrong I'm happy to apologize and say that I'm wrong it's not an issue oh I'm I'm the only the only issue well that's not

Andrew Wilsonaccountability though accountability is saying that I'm wrong in a well no no well here let me explain expain what I mean it's like oh yeah I sh the fire you're right I sh that fire that's me

Andrew Wilsonbeing accountable it's like ah no it's it's not being accountable fire the accountability would be okay wait a second right here's here's how I can Rectify it like even an

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)apology would be nice like hey I'm sorry you merched your fine show Brian did I say that I would apologize if I was wrong that I would do that text but you haven't actually done because I have to

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)send the text we establish that she she wants to verify yeah trust but verify I don't think there's anything apologize to me I'm going to

Brian Atlasabout would you like me to bow with that we'll get a bow by the end of Thee episode um here if you want though you're welcome to you want to do the text yeah I was water anyways if that's

Brian Atlasokay grab my phone yeah go for it all right we have a message here Jason Cassel chair 2 uh oh it's probably good that she's walking you're a p oh my goodness Jason calm down my friend uh you make false accusations against the

Brian Atlasshow Andrew without finding out the facts proof that no one should ever listen to a 30 fo maybe go back to um to sing the

Brian Atlasd h what's a 304 that is area code isn't it it is an area code Aya in Virginia I think right isn't it

Brian Atlasin Virginia also an E I thought it was a hoe yeah it's online yes a strumpet as you like hoes tend to come from this one area code yes okay yes this is news to me it's crazy

Brian Atlasum all right let's get back into the show notes I want to try to get more people and so um uh let me actually H uh let's

Brian Atlassee uh do we do more of ala how much more is there oh man there's a lot Aya you got so much notes Here I got um actually you know what I think we got through most of it um maybe towards the

Brian Atlasend of the show I'll get into some of the others though Lily Lily well sorry uh let's pull up her Wikipedia article whatever podcast gets a [ __ ]

Brian Atlashonorable mention in her wa where's you what's that yeah we got mentioned in your W made by anyone I think so lilan

Brian AtlasLillian Daisy name uh she's an English adult uh actress born in Derbyshire da da da the late 2024 uploaded a gang bang

Brian Atlashad sex with 101 men and then announced plans to have sex with 300 and then 100 men in one day um attracted widespread attention scroll down a little bit

Brian Atlasscroll down I'm going to make this about me scroll down scroll down Lillian Daisy Phillips was born in Derbyshire England and identifies as a feminist really

Brian Atlasyikes okay uh we'll get into that then dropped out of University you could have Lillian yes you could have done anything you could no I couldn't I'm not that smart you

Brian Atlascould have been a brain surgeon that's the lie a rocket scientist definely not don't have the attention span for that both all the interest anyway um let's go back okay uh look at this hold on and

Brian Atlasthere's you know who cares about the rest of the article but hold on Phillips explicitly targets men with her content and promoted herself on

Brian Atlaspodcasts optimized for the manosphere such as the whatever podcast in the chat boys we made it we don't even have our own Wikipedia

Brian Atlasarticle we we made it in the Wikipedia article of the girl who you got a lot lot of press for the the 100 101 men thing thanks and then

Brian Atlassome of you others have Wikipedia articles Aya anybody Aya pull up aa's I'm going to we're going to look into it I'm I'm very disappointed in you AA and

Brian AtlasI'm about to tell you why scroll scroll to the bottom scroll to the bottom she wait she plays the accordion now I sent her a message yesterday insisting she

Brian Atlasbrings an accordion to the studio and then she she rebuked me I did harshly she's like [ __ ] you no just kidding yeah literally she was like I don't have an accordion with me and I you know what I

Brian Atlasspent an hour today trying to [ __ ] find an accordion that shit's hard okay you did what is an accord I spent an hour trying to find an accordian the she's like Weird Al yeah are are you a

Brian AtlasWeird Al fan wait really quick go let's go back to the article though Andrew Wilson's going to get the Wikipedia article soon too scroll up she grew up in the okay um I already read some of this though

Brian Atlasyou were making $100,000 in some months on only fans you set yourself aart uh dope you're a legend and a

Brian Atlasscholar uh and then once uh Candace is back she doesn't have an English Wikipedia article she has a French Wikipedia article which I'm going to

Brian Atlasread in French on France you can read French on France little bit don't get too excited though Lily okay I know it's exciting a little bit okay pull up I

Brian Atlasdon't know why I'm doing this bit it's already played out okay pull pull up um uh Candace's with article in French have you read yours what is it

Brian AtlasWikipedia I was looking for Wikipedia so Lily has one Aya has one and then you had like an espanol version weird but then there's a French version too so pull it up okay what's up do you speak

Lily PhillipsFrench or no not at all's three guess three wikipedias is it scuffed

Brian Atlasreally there you don't have three there should be three wikip it should it's literally the third one hello yeah yeah can't get the stuff

Brian Atlasaround there okay um uh don't scroll down because she's wearing something a bit and I I I don't do numbers in

Brian AtlasFrench uh let's see what else

Brian Atlasuh Reality

Brian AtlasKings okay anyways that's that's it okay so congrats on your French one day you'll get the English one day we don't even have one popular in French I don't

Upgradeknow I guess someone made it speaking of French tell us I know I song in

TTS/Donations[Music] French get wrecked okay keep going keep

Upgradegoing oh my God [Music]

Brian Atlasyeah beautiful so that was great that was that was really good thank you for that really good do you do you want to do you know any Spanish songs or um are

Upgradeyou you're uh any like uh I'm trilingual so what what languages do you speak English yeah

Brian AtlasKorean okay why don't you do sigh Gangam Style go ahead sty okay that's cool all right uh anyways I'm G to move on to the rest of

Brian Atlasthe notes here oh we have a chat here from OJ Simpson yes the OJ Simpson from Beyond the he's dead right yeah oh okay

TTS/Donationsit's fine um OJ Simpson donated $200 wow incredible panel Bri

TTS/DonationsI'm sorry Brian and Mr Andrew but I've been in love with Candice for over a DEC Candice leave your husband and children for me immediately you want for nothing

Brian Atlaswould you if OJ Simpson was still alive would you abandon your children and your husband of 10 years for OJ no Absol the juice no wait oh sorry go ahead I mean

Candace Horbach (Eva Lovia)he treated good I mean allegedly yeah the the evidence is is pretty convincing no I have no interest in my head being you know you

Brian Atlasknow racism Lillian you know how Johnny Cash went to like prisons joh Johnny the really

Brian Atlasreally country is that guy Johnny Brits don't know Johnny Cash He was like a uh what what country Blues what do you what do

Brian Atlasyou like categorize him like rockabilly I don't um very popular singer you know that song can I here sing it go ahead sing some Johnny Cash go ahead I don't

Brian Atlasknow any I don't I don't know any Johnny C you know that's like I fell into a burning Ring of Fire the worst song in the world then

Brian Atlasyeah I know you should consider um doing a prison tour a prison [ __ ] yes I thought about doing a

Lily Phillipshomeless one wow that's yeah not a prison one though cuz I don't I don't know how I'd get into a prison and [ __ ] them all unless I was admitting myself what do they call it the the

Brian Atlascrown the crown Jews Crown not I don't know like the prisons in in the UK is in like the crown Crown PR prosecution

Brian Atlasservices I don't whatever uh out do you know that song by the uh The Kinks it's the Kings no wait is it the Kings uh

Brian Atlasliving on the thin line no it's kind of sad what's going what's happening oh I mean here I'll pull up the lyrics I Don't Know by heart but but you should do a uh what is it is it the

Brian AtlasKinks living on a thin line uh it goes uh all the stories have been told of kings of day of kings and days of old but there's no England now

Brian Atlasall the wars that were won and lost somehow don't seem to matter very much their castles have burned anyways feel like you're talking riddles it's basically saying like England was this

Brian Atlasuh great place andoun not great country andoun it's and this was back in the 80s they were wow like damn they ruined decline well you think it's got even worse since then probably yeah hell no I don't

Lily Phillipsknow I haven't I haven't been anyways okay whatever we've been doing a lot of access service so we're probably helping the England population wait what do you mean what like with us

Brian Atlasdoing all these gang bangs we're helping the population doing charity yeah yeah hell yeah yeah that's good we're bringing up the morality the the morality oh boy Andrew's going to love that one um okay uh here we got some

Brian Atlasmore chats uh chair one don't worry you are part of the 304 Club since you're not very smart type 304 into an older calculator and hold hold on Jason Jason

Andrew Wilsonyou've been a little mean here Aya I think is very smart Jason I'm not being Jason's

Andrew Wilsondefense can I give a a defense of Jason I okay fine okay in defense of Jason I have noticed that he's often right about almost everything he says so I'm just pointing that out in defense of Jason in

Ayadefense of Jason okay you're very small I don't know I saw I saw her interview with Lex it was really good mhm I thought it was good okay all right all right I think I just don't uh I'm not familiar with

Brian Atlastraditional debate tactics that people use when they're trying to win Wars you know like metaphorical Wars um it's pretty hard I think earlier on Andrew thought you were trying to do some

Brian Atlasdebate Judo on me and he's like hold on as what Andrew what's the title I gave you I I still think that Andrew what's

Brian Atlasthe title I gave you come quat to Defensor what was it the yeah that was a it was a it was a bad title right we don't talk about the title Brian Andrew

Brian Atlasis a uh he is the Defensor like King Henry he defended the Catholic faith when he was King and the pope gave him a

Brian Atlastitle uh oh my God I can't it's uh fed day Defensor I think defender of the faith Andrew is defender of the whatever

Brian Atlaspodcast and I gave him a laddin title quad kqu quad ququ defense or that's how you say whatever in Latin so he is the defend he's like my uh

Ayachampion who I send into combat to [ __ ] aido my enemies or detractors wa shouldn't I I like I like

Ayathe thought of like not being defensive and then like getting hurt if you should be hurt uh oh wait you were making a joke were you joking huh no were you wait what's going on I I you can

Ayaexplicitly sayate what's happening and then I would be more comfortable um I think I was just trying to say something like uh I like social norms where you sort of admit if you're wrong pretty

Ayafast and then the conversation and know it's not like losing to be wrong and I think a lot of the time like is you're trying to get one over on your opponent such that uh if you like score a point it's like very embarrassing if you prove that they're

Brian Atlaswrong but it's like pretty cool to admit if you're wrong that means you update that means that we get closer to finding out what's happening and I think that's like pretty dope I'd rather just Gaslight somebody and just make them think I'm kidding I'm kidding thank you

Andrew Wilsonfor stating that I'm just I don't think Andrew is kidding though look at I listen you know it's just in my T that's you know the nodding of the head made the joke funnier and then you pointed it out and

Unknownthen that made it less funny so it's like not to me I'm just pointing that out yeah I know but women don't have a great sense of humor to be honest with yeah are you trying to and stop with this

Andrew Wilsonand comments though sense of humor it's not it's not Sly um I'm not not making an implication I'm making a declaration of fact men are objectively far more

Andrew Wilsonhilarious than all women who exist on Planet Earth I think probably you're great maybe not all right I'm not going to put in a monolith because otherwise you our friend over here is going to get

Ayaall [ __ ] crazy on me but I'm just saying that uh ultimately I do think that men generally are much funnier than I think you're correct I think data generally supports this I also suspect

Ayathey might be more intelligent on average too um but this is unclear about how IQ test about like the greater male variability hypothesis even even with that included like I was horrified to find that they normalize IQ test based

Brian Atlason gender but is really horrified doesn't it indicate that like if you average it the IQ is actually the same the IQ is the same they they construct it such that that is the outcome it's

Brian Atlasnot the same uh it's unclear if it is or isn't right no but the greater male VAR like so you have like more really really stupid men and then you have more like really really really smart men or is that that's not really what the data is

Andrew Wilsonsaying ultimately you're just saying it's not actually clear that that is that that is the case it just is clear that the greatest chess champion who's a woman is going to lose to a man that's

Andrew Wilsonwhat's clear it's not actually clear whether or not they're more dumb women or or men than there are dumb women when you get to the other level that's that's less clear I mean you can check IQ test

Andrew Wilsonscores right I mean anyways yeah but IQ but IQ is a variability I mean it has significant variance like it's there's a lot of social variance between crystallized IQ non-crystallized IQ like

Andrew Wilsonit's not that easy to determine even when you're digging into the data it's still to this day unclear you'll hear um uh racial supremacists use data a certain way you'll hear liberals use it

TTS/Donationsa certain way you'll hear conservatives use it a certain way it's not actually clear H okay I do got to move things on but we have Michael Jones here Michael Jones donated

TTS/Donations$200 SE one is out here trying to resem with theism oh in 2025 rock paper scissors is now Gaslight gatekeep girl

Brian Atlasboss hail to King Andrew and vicount Brian thank you VI is VI count or Vis I don't know appreciate it man uh thank you Michael Jones really appreciate the

AyaTTS guys W's W's in the chat for Michael Jones are you do you have autism I think I'm a bit autistic to beon I've I've done a survey and people generally think that I do okay yeah have you been

Andrew Wilsondiagnosed by a professional though you're you're autistic yeah have you been Have You Been hang on hang on chair one have you actually been diagnosed no by a okay I didn't think so

Upgradeall show show who who here is autistic is it not everyone on the scale though B psychiatrist I me what psychiatrist yeah you were diagnosed as okay um but I had

Andrew Wilsonto comment on that I think yeah you want to sing a song too or I I did a oh sorry what I was just saying I did a survey

Andrew Wilsonwith my community they all thought I was autistic too so I guess but were you diagnosed by a psychiatrist it doesn't matter the metric is community says so if the

Upgradecommunity says so then it must be true if they say I mean I didn't say that oh yeah I know I know that was that was that was joke oh that's my my head I

Upgradedidn't find that funny at all I know I know but again it's because women aren't very funny just just pointing it out well I think funniness you know is uh an opinion subjective it is subjective yeah

Andrew WilsonI know I know I agree it just say subjectively more men seem to be found to be funny subjectively by more people than women I'm just pointing that out

Brian Atlaspoin it out was subjectively unfunny all right I got to move on so uh oh going to Lily your notes

Brian Atlasmy notes yeah your notes so you uh you did the 101 men in a day when's the Thousand scheduled for it well I was Meed it here but I actually got stopped at the border and so I've

Lily Phillipsdecided against cuz they were very much like you know if you do that here you will be banned and I would like to they said that genuinely they when you say the Border like when you flew in or yeah

Lily Phillipsso when I flew into I flew into Las Vegas and they stopped me at customs called and they kind of sat me down and they started like asking me questions you know what do I do and stuff like that and what's the nature of like why

Lily Phillipsyou coming into the country business or pleasure and you're like both uh yeah yeah and then um yeah and then they started bringing up like my pornhob and they started finding articles cuz my my name is my real name as well so it's

Lily Phillipslike quite easy to see on my passport in comparison to and they they're like we know why you're here yeah we won't allow it yeah that's what they said yeah basically they said if you do that did you say what if you're one of the Thousand you know they were so Stone

Lily Phillipsfaced I was trying to make jokes like that and they weren't having any of it yeah wait so how willing are you when it comes to deportation I don't want to be deported cuz I I actually I would love to like

Lily Phillipsmove here and live here okay yeah for work it's great I see so how did you get in how did I get in well they let they let me in they said as long as you don't do it and stuff like that and I think they were just more caught up on as well making sure I'm not a

Brian Atlasprostitute um I don't think they care so much about making content more just like actual sure you so I guess like what other Hood winks and shenanigans have

Lily Phillipshave you been up to Lily what else I did that 50 man that was recent anything else um I'm doing a sky dive where I saw a [ __ ] I don't you mentioned

Lily Phillipsthat I want to do like the largest bukkaki ever cuz I do love SW yeah um the what the largest bu excuse

Lily Phillipsme so it's like where you just like a [ __ ] bucket for a day um yeah there I mean I've got lots of ideas I don't love to share them cuz I feel like you just

Lily Phillipsnever know people might Nick my idea shoose the mouth That Got Away um that's cool um yeah I've got a lot of ambitious content I I really love to like push the limits of creating

Lily Phillipscontent and create content that people really haven't seen before what and what does like Dad and Mom think are they cool with it or no my dad and my parents are they supportive it's interesting really cuz when I started only fans they

Lily Phillipswere they were very supportive and stuff like that and then when I told them I was getting into porn they it wasn't necessarily their first like they weren't like yes go on suck that [ __ ] you know they weren't cheering me on

Lily Phillipstelling me to do porn it wasn't their first pick of jobs for me um and then when I started doing kind of like the more extreme stuff yeah they they're this is how I describe it

Lily Phillipsthey're not not supportive of their job but they're supportive of me and they always love me and have my back in you know okay yeah sure so that I hope that makes

Ayasense nice did you have to get used to liking spunk like was it acquired taste or did you I've always liked it okay yeah especially when I did my first buuk

Lily PhillipsKaki that was when I was like well what's what's spunk uh come Jazz oh I mean there but there's a limit here right so well there's a limit of SP you can take well this is what I'm also

Andrew Wilsontrying no no no no hang on hang on hang on let me ask the question just one second okay there has to be a a limit to the amount of crazier and crazy so this I mean this happens in every industry right so but especially in entertainment

Andrew Wilsonyou're trying to push the number for attention right and this is how you can stand out so only fans be no different uh any industry would be this way if you push the limit with the extremes more attention is going to get focused on you

Andrew Wilsonso sure for for marketing purposes this is great this type of thing but there's only going to be so much of that right because other people they get involved in this type of stuff too they start moving the goal for what the limit is

Andrew Wilsonand there is definitely a limit like there is physically only so many men you can sleep with in a day only so many men who can hump you up the butt or whatever the [ __ ] it is that the next next thing

Andrew Wilsonis that you're wanting to do you're going to hit that threshold right and it'll be sooner rather than later because there's only so much content you can push out so what do you do post that exactly exctly well when I mentioned

Lily Phillipsthat like I want to do extreme stuff it didn't always mean numbers like with the Skydive that's not a numbers thing and things like that so there isn't really a limit now no I think I think there is like um you could do scuba di blue jobs

Andrew Wilsonright but I'm sure there there's definitely not a limit now I've got I've got a very imaginative literally has there I mean there there actually has to be a liit so it's just m i mean I'm not going to give you all my ideas but I could list off some stuff that you

Andrew Wilsonknow you haven't seen before like she doesn't want her competitors to steal [ __ ] like you got to understand yeah but but I'm just trying to steal my ideas let's say you had 100 great ideas for Content nobody's ever seen before that

Andrew Wilsonkind of thing you will hit a limit threshold when I'm 55 and ready to retire yeah but when you make more and more extreme content you hit the threshold sooner rather than later like let me give you some examples of this in

Andrew Wilsonin other forms of media so somebody comes out recently Kanye West he came out and he was like he did the you know like I love Hitler thing right that drives a ton of attention to Kanye West

Andrew Wilsonthere's no doubt about it but the problem is that he'd already done that brought less attention this time where does he go from iHeart Hitler where does he go next do you know what I mean

Andrew Wilsonwhat's the next extremity you can actually go to from that that's the same problem that you'll find in the same industry right I feel like you're getting me wrong as well like I'm not necessarily doing it you know for

Lily Phillipsattention I want to create this unique content for my subscribers I like to do really like relative content as well like well then you would do it for free but you don't well I do do it for free I do gang bangs in my personal life and

Lily Phillipsthings like that I've always had a lot of sex but I just put two and two together something I love and something I can also monetize and mix them together and it has Honestly made the

Andrew Wilsonperfect job for me right so um we had a a gal on here once who said the exact same thing uh ended up becoming at least by her her metric a reformed Christian and said that everything that she was

Andrew Wilsonsaying earlier on the podcast was a complete lie right and that she was actually just doing that for well that's one of the purpose of marketing hang on hang on I'll let you respond I promise

Andrew Wilsonuh but the thing is is like it does draw a large amount of media attention to you there's no ifans or butts about that and you can say well I would just do the do it anyway because I just really really really like it okay I can just kind of

Andrew Wilsongrant that but even if it is the case that you just really really like it and you're going to do it in your personal life anyway you're going to go bang a thousand men cuz just love that [ __ ] it wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that there's a threshold limit put

Lily Phillipson the extremes right but I just de that earlier there's a ton of other ideas that I have that aren't necessarily with high numbers yeah no I I I see the lag I I

Andrew Wilsonget it but that would still make my point like there's still going to be a threshold isn't this test like you could write down all those I'm just wondering if there's a post threshold if you have like plans post threshold for that I

Lily Phillipsdon't think you realize like how h you know the sex industry is and how many different routes you can take with content like there's there's tons of things you can always do I'm not I'm not

Andrew Wilsondisputing that the sex industry is huge and that there's tons of different types of content you can do I'm not disputing that but when you're talking about the draw so most women and only fans don't make it almost the vast vast vast

Andrew Wilsonmajority the vast majority of women in getting corn don't make it the vast vast majority well it's because they don't have anything to makes them stand out right you have something here that makes you stand out but that that has limits

Andrew Wilsontoo and so the question that I'm asking is is like I can just base this on the general average almost nobody makes it in your industry like almost nobody so almost nobody don't think so well if that would be corn only fans things like

Andrew Wilsonthat almost no woman makes it in those Industries makes it what you oh is in like makes it big sorry I thought you meant like well makes it big or even makes enough money to support themselves most of them don't even make enough money to support themselves the a average only fans a couple hundred bucks

Andrew Wilsonyeah no I don't doubt yeah they're hardly making anything so it is definitely the multimedia attention this type of thing which assists in the elevation of the amount of people who watch somebody's content so you do have to think about what

Andrew Wilsonthreshold Breakers are like what happens when I reach whatever this Zenith is that could come very quickly and so I'm just wondering if there's post plans to it I I don't understand what question you're asking like have I got enough

Andrew Wilsoncontent to last me my lifetime and like have I gotten off ideas I'm I'm confused I'm saying that assuming that there's less media attention for your Skydive [ __ ] than there was for a

Andrew Wilsonthousand man gang bang but for me it's not always about media possible that there could be a massive decrease in fact it's likely as you get older and as you do more extreme content there's going to be a massive decrease I'm just

Lily Phillipsasking if there's post plans past what happens when that happens that's all I'm asking yeah I definitely have post plans I mean I want to be in this industry for as long as I enjoy it and for me right

Lily Phillipsnow that's looking at 10 20 years honestly um but for me it's also just not all about the medor attention like I just genuinely Do It For the Love of

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