TRIGGERED Girl WALKS OFF The Show?! 4 Kids 4 Fathers?! HEATED DEBATE On Chivalry! | Dating Talk #232
Date: 2025-03-03
Duration: 8h 58m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Multiple Guests (02)(guest)
SPEAKER_03Dalia(guest)
SPEAKER_04Natalie Tasha Thompson(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_07TTS Reader / Brian(host)
SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_11Paula(guest)
SPEAKER_12Joy(guest)
SPEAKER_13Andrea(guest)
SPEAKER_14Tessa(guest)
Key Moments
00:05:30
QuoteCourtney introduces herself as 'ageless' then reluctantly admits 28
“I'm ageless I will let that up to the viewers to decide”
00:17:23
QuoteNatalie explains: mother named her Natalie Tasha because 'Natasha' contains 'Satan' backwards
“my mom liked the name Natasha until she realized that it was a Satan backwards so she decided to make kindergarten hard”
00:25:30
RelationshipElizabeth reveals she has 4 kids with 4 different fathers, 3 have autism - largest family situation on this episode
“four kids four kids all the same father or different fathers different fathers for all four”
00:31:36
OtherKayia/Jade explains her 'civilian celibacy' - does adult film for work but stays celibate with civilians to protect her work
“the problem is like um civilians like jeopardize you know when you're when you're just interacting with people who are also tested”
02:03:00
OtherAbby's situationship drama: her situationship and her date were both at the same baseball game/bar - they all played pool together
“they both invited me to the same baseball game so I kind of like pre-warned him... we all ended up at the same bar and then we all played pool together”
03:00:00
ControversyPaula challenges Brian: if you want a submissive woman and traditional values, why won't you pay for dates?
“if that's your traditional mindset then why are you not traditional in the sense that you're not willing to even pay for a date”
03:10:00
ControversyAndrew argues women can't have it both ways: if they vote to send men to war but aren't drafted themselves, that's privilege not equality
“if all the women voted for that person all the men voted against that person they could send men off to war yes and they themselves would not have to fight that war”
04:27:12
OtherLiberty reveals she once had a date offer her lean while he was on house arrest with an ankle monitor
“he came to my restaurant... he was telling me about like oh I'm on house arrest and I was like how the hell did I get myself... he had a little lean”
06:13:00
ControversyAndrea confronts Andrew Wilson over immigration joke, calls him racist, eventually refuses to answer more questions - nearly a walkoff
“you Trump loving she clapping man... why are you guys going after Latinos... you guys literally have low IQs”
06:19:00
OtherAndrea announces she will stop answering questions due to disrespect - closest thing to a walkoff in this episode
“I'm just going to stop talking because I don't want to hold on so just to be clear you can be abrasive towards that I'm just going to literally stop answering questions”
06:48:00
Key MomentTessa reveals her Vanderbilt mechanical engineering degree while working as a bowling alley server because it pays more
“I make more money as a server than I do as an engineer”
07:00:00
ControversyAndrea argues that men who want to be chased rather than chase women might be gay
“maybe like maybe they are gay but they don't want to admit it and so like they're going after these women”
07:46:00
OtherNicole shares story: date seared her hand with a heated butter knife on a candle - still has the triangular scar
“he had a butter knife that he was laying on top of a candle and out of nowhere he like reached to grab my hand and he just seared my hand”
07:55:30
QuoteBrian delivers memorable line: 'You take the bullet, you pay for the first date' - encapsulating the chivalry debate
“you guys have rejected the social contract you take the bullet you take the bullet you pay for the first date”
08:06:00
RelationshipBody count round: Kayia estimates 100-110 as adult performer; various other guests share or decline to share counts
“probably like I'd say by now I'd estimate like 100 to 110”
08:12:00
ControversyExtended Courtney vs. Brian debate on sidewalk rule - she wants chivalry but also full independence; Brian calls out the contradiction
“you said you're a big believer in Old School values if a guy doesn't know basic etiquette like the sidewalk rule... you want a guy to die for you but you can't even change your shirt”
08:24:00
OtherNatalie shares she previously dated a ~50yo man when she was 19 in college (needed money)
“he was probably like 50 so going back to the conversation of like 50 with a 19-year-old yeah I think that's kind of kind of weird looking at it now obviously I know that I was an adult”
08:27:24
QuoteCourtney reveals she cannot carry children and needs a surrogate
“jokes on you though cuz I actually can't carry my own kids so I actually get to decide when I have a kid because I have to get a surate”
10:00:54
OtherPatrice O'Neal 'no vagina' clip played - guests answer how they'd keep their man without it
“if you didn't have a vagina like say it was a terrible train accident right how would you keep your man”
Topics Discussed
00:05:04
Guest Introductions
Brian introduces the largest-ever panel (14 guests). Each guest gives name, age, location, occupation, education. Guests include Courtney (songwriter), Jade/Kayia (adult performer), Abby (aesthetician), Elizabeth (4 kids, 4 fathers), Liberty (furniture admin), Tessa (engineer/server), Andrea (medical assistant), Joy (business manager), Dalia (actress/student), Nicole (coordinator/makeup), Ashley (automotive GM), Natalie Tasha Thompson (nonprofit director), Paula (salsa teacher). Andrew Wilson also introduces himself.
00:21:00
Relationship Status Round
Brian goes around the table asking about relationship status, how long single, longest relationship, who broke up with who. Notable: Elizabeth's 4 kids with 4 different fathers revealed, with detailed discussion. Kayia's return to adult industry after relationship. Abby's 5-month casual situationship. Various single/casually dating statuses revealed.
01:34:30
Going to Clubs / Bars in Relationships
Debate about whether partners should be allowed to go to clubs while in relationships. Brian argues men and women face different environments (men seek, women are pursued), so it's asymmetrical. Andrew uses the 'avoid impropriety' argument. Multiple guests debate trust vs. mate-guarding. One guest (Liberty) was in a situationship where she was caught on a date at the same baseball game as her situationship guy.
03:00:00
Chivalry and Traditional Values Debate
Heated multi-hour debate on chivalry: the sidewalk rule, men paying for dates, submission in relationships, traditional gender roles. Paula and others argue for traditional chivalry. Brian challenges the pick-and-choose approach to traditionalism. Courtney's position particularly debated - she wants chivalry (sidewalk rule, door-opening) but also full independence. Andrew argues chivalry was historically tied to female virtue. Debate extends into feminism, equality, who should vote, military service.
04:33:30
Gender Swap AI Photos
Brian shows AI-generated gender-swapped versions of the guests. Guests react to seeing themselves as the opposite gender. Some self-deprecating comments, some surprise. Natalie says her male version looks better; Joy's bondage Instagram photos referenced.
04:59:30
Age Gap Relationships Debate
Discussion about age gap relationships, particularly older men dating younger women. Paula objects to large age gaps (20+ years). Andrew and Brian defend men's ability to date younger women. Discussion of when it's appropriate vs. predatory. Debate about women's prime, fertility, and relationship stability.
05:34:00
Minimum Income and Height Requirements
Brian asks all guests their minimum income and height requirements for a husband. Results vary widely: one guest wants 200k+, most want 80-150k, some don't care. Heights range from no preference to 5'10+. Andrew highlights the privilege asymmetry - men have no income requirements for women while women have high requirements for men. Brian says he has zero income requirement for a woman.
05:56:30
Women Dressing Revealing / Modesty Debate
Extended debate on whether women in relationships should dress modestly at a partner's request. Andrea strongly against restrictions - approaches men knowing how she dresses. Joy argues modesty preaching in church is harmful. Natalie and Nicole more traditional. Brian challenges the double standard of wanting chivalry but refusing to defer on clothing. Joy's revealing Instagram photos shown on screen.
06:13:00
Andrea vs. Andrew: Immigration/Politics Confrontation
Heated confrontation between Andrea (23, Oakland) and Andrew Wilson over an immigration joke Andrew made about deporting families. Andrea calls it racist and not funny. Andrew defends it as a joke. Andrea eventually says she'll stop answering questions because the conversation is too disrespectful. Multiple guests try to mediate. Discussion about whether you can be racist towards white people.
07:59:00
Body Count Round
Brian asks all guests their body count. Notable answers: Kayia/Jade ~100-110 (as adult performer), one guest 11, one guest 25-30, one guest 8, Paula refused (not over 100), Joy refused (under 100, not counting same-sex with husband), Natalie 20-25, several private/refused. Followed by discussion on whether men caring about body count means they're insecure. Nicole discusses why focus on body count is hypocritical without also addressing male porn addiction.
08:06:00
Chivalry Final Showdown / Patrice O'Neal Video
Continued chivalry debate culminating in Brian playing Patrice O'Neal's 'what if you didn't have a vagina' video to illustrate female value beyond sex. Guests respond to how they'd keep a man. Paula argues men are protectors by God's design. Brian: 'You take the bullet, you pay for the first date.' Final discussion of traditional vs. modern expectations.
08:12:00
Sidewalk Rule Deep Dive - Courtney
Extended one-on-one between Brian and Courtney about the sidewalk rule and what 'old school values' really means. Brian challenges Courtney's cherry-picking of traditional expectations. Courtney maintains her position on independence while wanting gentleman behaviors. Argument goes in circles until both sides acknowledge different people want different things.
Transcript
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04:43:30
Brian Atlasspot on the side of I don't even know from my bra it's the AI you know yeah okay so you wouldn't into the mic
04:43:39
Joyno would not date him okay no the nose is too big oh he's cute not bad okay would you date no if you were single if you were single no cuz he looks too much
04:43:50
Joygo out with you feel like like creeped out cuz he looks but like let's say look but let's say you know for a fact you're not related I know you look alike but you're
04:44:02
Brian Atlasnot related 100% you guys got DNA test done before I don't know I don't like mustaches no but there's the there's two options there's beard no beard no okay
04:44:13
Daliashe wouldn't do it okay next you know what I don't know would you do it why did it damn I have that big of a nose that's kind of crazy wait
04:44:24
Brian Atlasthe nose didn't even look big okay um he looks too wholesome oh yeah you need you need a little toxic yeah a little toxic you know all right funny
04:44:36
Brian Atlasnext it looks like you play soccer not bad not bad you'd be cute you would be cute would say you wouldn't date no you
04:44:45
Brian Atlaswouldn't date him that's crazy okay it's like okay it's like all right next oh God damn nice yeah no you
04:44:56
Multiple Guests (02)wouldn't into it really no he doesn't look like my boyfriend so no what if you were single if you were single no it looks like honestly kind of
04:45:06
Natalie Tasha Thompsonlooks like my brother it's kind of likeo next oh [Music] [ __ ] right
04:45:17
Brian Atlasthere 100% there you go that's the best one sure yeah okay should I transition oh is there is there next oh wait oh okay I see I see okay
04:45:29
Paulawould you would you hit no would you date no would you no no okay all right next
04:45:39
Brian Atlas[Laughter] what sorry that's crazy hey thank you for thinning her up a little bit though I appreciate that what the [ __ ] they used to make make her a little chubbier but they that doesn't even have the same
04:45:52
Paulafeatures as you I feel like they used a different went way more for you you made yourself look better come on what are you talking about which one you face
04:46:01
Andrew Wilsontuned these well the first one the first one the on the that's that's what happens when women are wearing makeup right right
04:46:12
Andrew Wilsonso what Ryan's feminine features would be plus makeup and so you don't believe it because the same reason we should believe you guys when you're wearing makeup just pointing that out just pointing out that's a really good point Andrew all right it looks like Megan
04:46:26
Brian Atlaslike you know have you watched that movie Megan it looks like not the evil doll I mean they put they put way too much makeup on you know but all right let's see the
04:46:36
Brian Atlasnext what about Andrew do we oh [ __ ] wow holy [ __ ] on the right I am I am a good
04:46:44
Unknown Backgroundlooking not bad not bad sh it's going to get clipped and [ __ ] oh [ __ ] oh boy put it back up put it back up let's see it again make a little
04:46:56
Natalie Tasha Thompsonbigger little bigger yeah I way too good for myself other than the mismatched like eyebrows on the right like you need a little Botox make no no no but you just you got botched by some bad Botox on the
04:47:09
Andrew Wilsonright that chick chick me is way hotter than you st fine fair fair fair I'll take it did you see did you see chick version of me way better looking yes but guy version
04:47:25
Andrew Wilsonof G hang on hang on there's young Andrew right young Andrew's young chick version of himself way better looking
04:47:35
Natalie Tasha Thompsonway better look come on for sure got stoping yeah no way totally but like yeah come me as a dude is better looking
04:47:43
Andrew Wilsonthan you as a young guy so it goes both ways yeah but but we so it's relational so I can look at myself at your age and then the reverse gender better looking
04:47:55
Andrew Wilsonand then we can assume based on the pictures that we had of you when you're older right that's still the chick version of me older still better looking than you so boom
04:48:07
Brian Atlasroasted M Dro is there anything else Damian or is it all right you can ex out those uh let's see what else we have we got to get through the rest of the notes
04:48:16
Brian AtlasHere what all of the notes all of them not oh [ __ ] ain't that something certain things uh okay here we're going to get through the rest of the notes we did
04:48:28
Brian AtlasAbby we did Li Libya libia we did Liz Paula uh you okay uh you would like to clear the air clarify things for the men
04:48:42
Paulaout there listening who are constantly angry about women's standards yeah I think that there's some kind of I think that some men get
04:48:53
Paulaconfused and they're taking it to the extreme and they think that if a woman raises their standards that they're extremely high and I think like for me I think my standards are
04:49:03
Paulareasonable what are your standards just I I like a guy who's takes care of his health you know he's fit or some
04:49:11
Paulasomewhat fit um just has his [ __ ] together um has goals um financially stable and mentally um mature and has a
04:49:22
Paularelationship with God okay um and you haven't been able to find that um certain parts yes it's hard
04:49:32
Brian Atlasto find all of it though wrapped in one okay yeah uh you said that you perhaps had a uh quarrel with women losing value
04:49:41
Brian Atlasas they age women losing options as they age and also you wrote men wanting younger women not always true younger doesn't necessarily mean hotter our
04:49:54
PaulaPrime doesn't our Prime doesn't end strictly at 30 yeah I think you can extend it a little bit past 30 it's not like 33y old and a 30-year-old are widely different in looks I mean I always pretty much look the same I think
04:50:06
Paulait does matter how you take care of yourself I would say if you gained like 30 lb or something like that at 33 yeah you're going to look a little worse but overall age pretty slowly as long as you
04:50:17
Brian Atlastake care of yourself but I'm a bit so and remind me your question to the looks or the Aging question yeah uh you said
04:50:27
Paulayou're 42 40 or 40 m you said better looking at 50 or no no and then but you said 30 was your Prime area uh 25 to
04:50:38
Brian Atlaslike 37 I think pretty solid yeah pretty similar and do you feel like your options you've gotten you've your options have increased as you've gotten older um I
04:50:50
Brian Atlasthink it's pretty much been the same been the same no changes like did men do more [ __ ] for you when you were 20 versus now at no I
04:51:00
Paulathink I tolerated um I tolerated things I shouldn't have and I think that just has to do with um like my previous standards and
04:51:11
Brian Atlasyeah just the things I tolerated okay so and you said uh men wanting younger women not always true I mean I don't
04:51:21
Pauladisagree there are men who there a lot of younger men that date older women I hear about it a lot and they're in relationships with them too I've seen it I mean my last my
04:51:32
Brian Atlasex-boyfriend was 25 when I was 37 yeah I don't dispute that it happens um but do you think General speaking
04:51:41
Brian Atlastypically you think men would you agree that men tend to prefer younger women yeah generally yeah okay yeah all right well I don't know if there's much
04:51:51
Pauladispute there uh younger doesn't necessarily mean hotter yeah I think it depends like I said it depends on how you take care of yourself just cuz um
04:52:03
Brian Atlascan I can I ask you a question though yeah like when it comes to like the biological reality of having kids though yeah uh even if we just remove looks from it don't you think men are going to
04:52:14
Brian Atlasmake it like if you're a 40-year-old guy who wants to have kids don't you think it's he's more likely to try to pursue like a woman in her early 30s or late
04:52:24
Brian Atlas20s when it comes to kids maybe you can still have kids at 40 just to be clear MH but the fertility uh like it does
04:52:33
Paulastart decreasing it does I think um I think it depends I don't I don't know I don't know what men are thinking I don't know if they look at me and and think oh she probably can't have kids I don't know if they're making that assumption
04:52:45
Andrew WilsonI've never heard that before I don't think they would sit yeah so I don't really know um well they don't they're not going to assume things that way right this is not a this it's not a
04:52:57
Andrew Wilsonthing which we're mentally going through the idea is just um when you're talking about attraction youthful features are obviously going to be more attractive because it's correlated with fertility
04:53:10
Andrew Wilsonthat's exactly why you would understand attraction to be the way it was obviously from even an evolutionary standpoint we we wouldn't be attracted to things that we didn't want to
04:53:20
Andrew Wilsonreproduce with right that wouldn't make any sense so if if men are looking at younger women as being more attractive likely it's it's tied into fertility right that makes
04:53:31
Paulasense um that might be we're we're not like cognitively doing it in other words yeah like it's like it's like a um it's not a conscious conscious thing right it's just kind of like yeah but
04:53:42
Paulawhat I'm saying is like just cuz you're 22 doesn't necessarily mean you're automatically hot not everyone's good-look you can be an ugly 22-year-old man or woman but we would we would make
04:53:54
Andrew Wilsonthe concession here that that is indeed true right that not every 22-year-old is hot right right right but can you make the concession that there's a hell of a lot more hot 22y olds and there are 42
04:54:05
Andrew Wilsonyear olds um probably yeah then I then we're not even arguing at this point right you're just essentially saying that youthful fertility is attractive to
04:54:15
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04:55:33
Andrew Wilsonthank you all right so let's get into I'm going to try real quick I just wonder if I could finish very quickly this exchange I I was just wondering something there's a theory which is out
04:55:43
Andrew Wilsonthere cuz you and I were just discussing younger um you know younger women versus older women and you said you know n not necessarily do I think that men would be going after the younger woman over the
04:55:55
Andrew Wilsonolder woman a prominent Theory which is out there is that women who are single and who are in their late 30s or early 40s often say this because they're trying to root out competition by
04:56:05
Andrew Wilsonshaming Men by saying men shouldn't be attracted to women who are younger than than they are especially by a significant age Gap because they actually want to secure those men for themselves would you would you say that
04:56:17
Paulathere's any Merit to that I mean I'm not I'm definitely not shaming men I mean I'm always younger than someone there's like 50y olds that are sometimes interested so you're always younger than someone I wouldn't say I'm not shaming
04:56:29
Andrew Wilsonmen for liking younger women at all yeah but I mean there you don't see a problem with that right like if there was a if there was a 22-year-old woman
04:56:39
Paulawho was dating say a 44y old man you don't see so I'm not I don't the agap here we go here we go gave me gave me the the ick face yeah wait let me gave
04:56:51
Paulame the ick face I got a feeling you're going to have a problem with it no no no I don't have a problem with hgap relationships um I just think like women
04:57:01
Paula25 24 I would say 24 and under I think it's a little creepy when men in their 40s are going for like a 20-year-old I think that's what about men in their 30s so so hang on what you just said
04:57:12
Andrew Wilsonwas was you did you did shaming of men huh so what you just you literally just contradicted yourself cuz you're shaming men you're saying if men go after women who are let's say they're 44 they go
04:57:24
Andrew Wilsonafter a woman who's 24 right that's within your criteria they're 20 years younger you are now shaming those men you say listen to the word hang on here's a verb it's creepy right why
04:57:36
Andrew Wilsonshouldn't we assume that the reason that you think that is because if women or of men who were in that age bracket who would be a prime target for you uh you're just super jealous that they're going for the 24 old why shouldn't that be aume no definitely not jealous I
04:57:49
Paulathink that women that young and what makes it creepy um because I think they can women that young are very vulnerable and naive they don't know how to look for red flags they don't know how to discern and I think they're very prone and
04:58:02
Paulavulnerable to being taken advantage of especially by an older man and I've seen it before I have hang on at one point at a time my counter to your first point is is is that I don't think 40-year-old women do any better I don't think 4-year-old single women do any better
04:58:15
Paulawhen it comes to singling out red flags and this they wouldn't be single to begin with no yes I'm much better at Discerning red flags now than I was when I was younger that's for sure why would
04:58:25
Andrew Wilsonthe 24y old be able to secure a man and secure his assets with a 40-year-old single woman has not been able to if they're so great at at figuring out what's a red flag and what isn't how do you know there's a 24y old that's
04:58:37
Andrew Wilsonsecured a 40-some year old man like what because it's entailed and hypothetical single 40-year-old women upset because 40-year-old man going out with 24y old woman this means 24y old woman has
04:58:49
Andrew Wilsonsecured man you say no I just think it's creepy cuz she can't make the decisions on red flags but it's like but then why would you be single at 40 if you could because there's not enough men that are mentally mature enough and I haven't
04:59:02
Paulafound a man that doesn't have any sort of toxicity or they're not mentally immature enough then should they be with younger more immature women
04:59:11
Andrew Wilsonyeah sure okay but not 44 year olds wait what makes no sense well that that but that makes no
04:59:21
Andrew Wilsonsense like if they're not mature enough to be with a woman of your caliber at 40 then why wouldn't they be with somebody who was more mentally on their level who was you know younger I I don't think I'm
04:59:33
Paulanot saying like the 44 yearolds emotionally necessarily mature I just think they have more awareness and they're aware of the fact fact that they're easier to control a younger woman easier to manipulate her she
04:59:44
Paulaprobably doesn't have as have really any self-respect or standards and she's just more vulnerable to being taken advantage of that's all I'm saying so you would advise those younger women not to go out with those older men I would tell them to be careful yeah just be careful so
04:59:58
Andrew Wilsonthen what that does is of course it opens the pool up for more of those men in that age bracket for you it still sounds like jealousy but also definely not but there's a second there's a second component to it as well which is
05:00:10
Andrew Wilsonwhy is it that a man would not prefer to have a woman that didn't have a 40-year-old single woman's baggage what baggage do I have I'm never married I don't have any kids no divorces not talking about you specifically we're talking about a hypothetical 40-year-old
05:00:23
Andrew Wilsonwoman not you why would why would a 40 something year old want you're saying you get well here I'll explain you agree with me the older you get the more baggage you end
05:00:34
Andrew Wilsonup with right typically typically right so then why would it why would it not stand reason that if a man could secure a young very fertile woman uh and she didn't have a lot of baggage that that
05:00:46
Paulawouldn't be preferable to an older woman who was not as fertile and had a lot of it yeah I mean if it's your preference if you want someone who doesn't have kids then find someone that doesn't have
05:00:58
Paulakids I mean I don't disagree with that I just think the age gap of like 20 years is pushing it on any end like a 60-year-old with a 40-year-old like me with a 60-year-old I think that's pushing it but I thought The 40-Year-Old
05:01:10
Andrew Wilsonknew how to identify all the red flags they do I just think it's extreme what would be the problem with her getting a 60-year-old if clearly there couldn't be very many red flags that's your whole
05:01:22
Andrew Wilsonobjection right say something what do you have in common with a six-year-old I just think that you're not on the same what does anybody have in common with anybody you know what it's fun women bring this up a lot right they bring up the idea of like what do you have in common with act I sat down with my wife
05:01:35
Andrew Wilsonthe other day and you know what's really funny I've been married to her for an awful long time we don't [ __ ] hardly have [ __ ] in common like I play video games all the time right and uh like I like to play Red Dead Redemption 2 where
05:01:47
Andrew WilsonI'll go around I'll like grab the feminist and I'll drag her on the train tracks and let a train hit her you know what I mean and then I'll pull out double six shooters and unload him into that like feminist corpse in the game right my wife doesn't like that [ __ ] and
05:02:00
Andrew Wilsonyou know what else she does she does her nails all the time and you know what I don't do nails and I don't give a [ __ ] about nails and she'll talk to me about it she be like what do you think of my nails I don't [ __ ] care about your nails I don't give a [ __ ] right in fact
05:02:11
Paulathe more the more we started going through it we realized actually we don't really have all that much in common ultimately why is that even a problem I think that when you're like 20 years age
05:02:23
Paulagap on either side like women going for like a older man or a man going for an younger woman I think there's like an agenda at hand I just don't think it's authentic I think there's an agenda I
05:02:34
Andrew Wilsonthink there is an agenda on that at hand I think that she probably likes him cuz he's disting a l of resources he likes her because she's young anderle what does that have
05:02:45
Andrew Wilsonto do with stuff in common though like what does that have to do with stuff in common like when you really think about it what do you have in common with most men like here let me give you an example
05:02:55
Andrew Wilsoncan you can you tell me what's a jigsaw what is it I think it's a tool yeah what what does it
05:03:03
Andrew Wilsondo it probably slices something yeah yeah you're like no idea right no like no clue we don't need if you if you had
05:03:12
Andrew Wilsonto hang on hang on just a real quick question right uh when it came to a pistol let's say just a like a normal semi-automatic handgun can you actually
05:03:23
Paulawalk me through the process of loading it yes yeah I have one go ahead walk me through the process oh my God you put it in like the little the little mag you put the
05:03:35
Paulabullets in and you push them down and you put the next bullet in and you do it and until you're to the top and then you push it in and there you go and there you go I know how to load a
05:03:47
Andrew Wilsonhandgun you got it yeah I mean you got this you got this down pat right what about what about the fact like can you tell me what your favorite war movie
05:03:57
Paulais no I don't think I don't think right no cuz you don't have [ __ ] [ __ ] in common with men you got nothing in common with me nothing I on the commonality thing last one think you're in different places in your life like
05:04:10
Andrew Wilsonlike young girls probably still want a party not have a family so what's a 40 something doing starting a family with a 20s something year old I mean some of them what she doing starting in with a 40-year-old when she doesn't watch war movies and he loves them she don't talk about Rome like that don't matter she
05:04:23
Andrew Wilsondon't talk about history he loves history does she doesn't she doesn't play video games he loves video games what the [ __ ] do they have in common that those little things are not important enough well then what is the thing what is the commonality that we're
05:04:35
Andrew Wilsonlooking for here what are the things in common that that are so meaningful a 40-year-old is going to have with a 40-year-old man that a 25-year-old woman's not what is it I just think it's too big no give me
05:04:48
Paulathe thing give me the thing you said commonality what answer the question is it I just think you're different places in your life you have different interests in what how you want to live your life you got to answer his question I think the young women are not going to
05:05:00
Andrew Wilsonwant to settle down some of them do answer his question answer his question question I'll give you my hang on I'll give you my question again lifestyle what is actually the thing we're looking
05:05:12
Andrew Wilsonfor that's a commonality between two 40-year-old people versus a 40-year-old man with a 25-year-old woman what is the thing that the 4-year-old woman's going to have in common with the 25-year-old
05:05:22
Paulaisn't what is that thing I just think they have more I just think they're a little bit wiser and more intelligent have more life they have in common though that the 40 hang
05:05:35
Andrew Wilsonon what's the thing the 40-year-old's going to have in common with them the 25 y- olds not what is that thing just the ability to have a mature and insightful and deep conversation umy olds are
05:05:48
Andrew Wilsonincapable of mature and in not necessarily but some but most of the guys I talk to all the 25-year-old women who are at that table who are 25 and under are incapable of having insightful
05:05:58
Paulaconversations it's not ex it's just that I don't think that they I don't think they're as wise as an older woman would be I just don't think yeah but that's not talking about what is in common
05:06:10
Paulawhat's the common thing what is the thing that they need to have mentally they're not on the same level like I don't think the conversations are going to be as deep and as quality as being if he doesn't give a [ __ ] like do you
05:06:21
Andrew Wilsonrealize that most of the timef about having some deep conversation well then you're looking for something surface level and I'm looking for something deeper than that why does it hang on why would it be surface level that you don't
05:06:33
Paulaenjoy deep conversations why is that surface level it's surface level if you don't care about emotional connection you build an emotional connection by having conversations and being vulnerable with each other if you raas
05:06:44
Paulathat from the convers from the whole thing then why are you together just doing things for each other and just having fun and I mean there's noal connection so by by your criteria all a
05:06:57
Andrew Wilson25-year-old would need to do is be emotionally vulnerable with this guy and him emotionally vulnerable with her and they have deep conversations and then voila problem solved yeah I'm go ahead
05:07:08
Brian Atlaswhat's the youngest guy you dated uh 25 what did you guys have in common um the gym wait you literally are in age Gap relationships you date younger men what
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Paulaare you complaining about are you a predator are you grooming the younger men no because that wasn't that wasn't I said if it's 20 years that's an extreme 12 years is not I don't see a problem with 12 years of course because you're
05:07:34
Andrew Wilsonengaged in one that's 12 years right that's isn't it I'm not engaged convenient that you draw threshold isn't it hang on hang on isn't it awful
05:07:44
Andrew Wilsonconvenient that you draw the threshold past the Gap that you currently are in isn't that awful convenient um no 20
05:07:53
Paulayears is pretty extreme I said 20 years is extrem it's really not wait a second how how can I expect that a person who's
05:08:04
Andrew Wilson12 years your Junior can have a deep insightful conversation with you and do a long walk on the beach and be emotionally vulnerable to you but
05:08:14
Paulasomebody who's 25 couldn't be why why should I assume that we had some pretty good conversations but and ultimately I didn't think he was mentally mature
05:08:24
Paulaenough he was angry and he just was unhealed is what I no literally all the arguments that you forwarded could just be forwarded towards your relationship
05:08:37
Brian Atlasyou're 40 right you were dating a 25-year-old or one where you you dating him when I was 37 37 so it was a 12 year 12 years so the exact same arguments that you forwarded when it comes to men dating younger women could be forwarded
05:08:49
Paulain your case as well how about this a 30-year-old dating a 20-year-old objections there it's not as bad I still think girls under 24 are a little bit more vulnerable to being taken advantage wa
05:09:01
Brian Atlasjust the women though like not the men only the the younger women so how about this proposition women should not be able to vote until they're 25 are you in favor of that uh I think they should raise the voting age a little bit
05:09:14
PaulaI don't think they're just for women just for the women everybody I think for everybody I don't think anyone's educated enough or intelligent enough enough not like not wise enough I don't I think there's still kids making these
05:09:26
Andrew Wilsonbig decision yes I agree with this no voting for anybody until 30 I I can get behind not that high just maybe like 25 or something okay yeah no no if you're not wise enough to be able to have long walks from the beach and deep emotional conversation
05:09:39
Andrew WilsonI don't think I want you voting in politics I think that you need to at least be able to be emotionally vulnerable and you need to at least be able to have these deep emotional connections with people before I want
05:09:52
Andrew Wilsonyou to be voting for who my next president is I don't know why you're making fun of having an emotional connection with someone that's the whole that's very it's meaningless it doesn't mean anything when you emotional
05:10:02
Paulaconnection it's help me out joy that is [ __ ] so hold on surf connection listen hang on hang let me explain let me explain I'll explain it so so that
05:10:14
Andrew Wilsonand I think you'll actually agree with me let's say there's Bob and Jane and Bob and Jane right out of high school they get married and Bob he's mechanic and Jane she's stay-at-home mom and well they have a they have a rough go of it
05:10:26
Andrew Wilsonfor the first 20 years they barely even talk to each other Jane has a lot of kids that's true right and uh they deeply deeply love each other but you know Bob he's not really the talkative type he's pretty quiet pretty stoic
05:10:39
Andrew Wilsondoesn't really say very much you know and it's just kind of through the little things that Jay knows that Bob loves her he doesn't forget the anniversaries you know but they don't say much at anniversary dinner he doesn't forget
05:10:50
Andrew Wilsonmuch about Jane he loves her he even talks her up to other people right but they just don't ever really have these deep conversations and the idea of emotional vulnerability are you saying
05:11:01
Andrew WilsonBob doesn't love Jane not necessarily no no okay right so then so then the idea of a deep emotional connection doesn't mean anything because they do have a deep
05:11:13
Andrew Wilsonemotional connection they just have it in a different way than the deep emotional connection you want I disagree I got to I got to move things on a little bit here um so couple questions
05:11:26
Paula30-year-old man dating 20-year-old do you object it's pushing it I don't know why is it pushing it like I said I think the girls under 24 are very young have no life experience or very they're just
05:11:38
Paulavulnerable to getting taken advantage of I think they're a little bit naive wouldn't they be just as vulnerable to being taken advantage of by a guy their same age just to be clear you think I don't think so I don't think those men are as smart as the older men who are
05:11:50
Brian Atlasmuch more aware of what they're doing yeah but I can make an opposite argument saying that those older men are like more emotionally mature so they're less less likely to be inclined to manipulative emotional maturity depends
05:12:02
Brian Atlason the person definely does not depend on age I know that fact oh so then I'll just apply that to women their maturity depends on their age so an 18-year-old woman could be no oh maturity only what
05:12:14
Brian Atlaswait what are you saying you said no you said oh well it depends on the person okay great it depends on the woman too it depends on the specific woman so an 18-year-old woman could be more emotionally mature than a
05:12:26
Paula25-year-old but you would say oh no you can't date the 18-year-old woman could be it's just that the I I highly doubt 18 to 20 year olds can discern and cuz they don't have enough life experience
05:12:39
Brian Atlasrelationship experience to notice the red flags so so what you're saying as people get older they get more emotional intelligence not necessarily what I'm
05:12:50
Paulasaying is easier to discern um and look for red flags and figure out if a person is right for you or not as you get older and get more experienc dating this would apply to men to you have to have yes you
05:13:01
Paulahave to experience with dating to know what to look for and when you're 18 to 20 you don't have that much experience with dating to know what to look out for to know what's right for you and at what age 18 I'm Sorry by the time hold on
05:13:14
Brian Atlasjust to be clear most women who are going to college their first freshman quarter semester they done already [ __ ] like 10 dudes what are you talking about you're making assumptions but okay bro I mean I can actually give
05:13:27
Andrew Wilsonyou the average of how many partners that women have when they get out of college on average it's not low right it's not low so I mean it is true it's an assumption I'll grant you that it
05:13:38
Andrew Wilsonjust seems like it's a fair assumption to make okay so the thing the thing is those I I would like to just kind of kind of ask you this let's say Bob meets
05:13:47
Andrew WilsonJane and this time Jane's 25 Bob's 40 okay and Bob really really loves Jane and here's why he loves her he loves her because she doesn't have a lot of baggage and she's beautiful and she
05:14:01
Andrew Wilsonreally doesn't say very much or challenges Authority is Bob a predator no I I said 24 and under so I don't see a problem
05:14:09
Andrew Wilsonokay she's 24 she's 24 and he is 44 20 years younger is Bob a
05:14:20
Paulapredator I don't want to I can't assume you never know could be a good guy I just here's the only criteria he want more to take advantage these I'm giving
05:14:30
Andrew Wilsonyou the specific criteria he loves her for these three reasons she's really hot okay she has no baggage and she concedes
05:14:40
Paulato his authority that's why he loves her those three reasons I don't think I don't think those are enough things to love someone Bob
05:14:51
Paula[Music] Predator I I wouldn't that's not enough to fall in love in my opinion there's so many more deeper question ESP in love with her and she has her own reasons for loving him back but he definitely is in
05:15:04
Paulalove with her he just only has those three reasons why he's in love with her is Bob a predator borderline I I don't know borderline okay borderline a predator it's a little it's just a little off for me it's just a little bit
05:15:16
Paulatoo much of an age Gap what should Bob love her for um I think you see I believe in
05:15:28
Pauladeveloping an emotional connection and I believe that when you you fall in love with someone when you are vulnerable with each other and you learn about each
05:15:39
Andrew Wilsonother and you love them through their what should Bob love her for so he has an emotional connection the same way that you're talking about it's just that through this emotional connection he's
05:15:49
Andrew Wilsondiscovered he really just loves her for those three reasons what should Bob love her for instead of those three things what should what her character is she a
05:15:59
Paulasupportive wife is she loyal does she take care of him is she did I say supportive like
05:16:09
Paulait's just what if she's none of those things looks it's not just about if if what if she's really not any of those things and Bob still loves her how could Bob be wrong about who Bob loves well
05:16:21
Andrew Wilsonit's hypothetical I don't know I don't right right the thing is is like the the criteria becomes very arbitrary very quickly when you're talking about why you fall in love with a person right
05:16:31
Andrew Wilsonbecomes very arbitrary very made up very kind of just by whatever our own intuition is if Bob actually loves this woman why does it [ __ ] matter
05:16:43
Paulawhy I just think those are superficial reasons to fall in love like I don't think that's true love I don't think you dat a guy who's shorter than you isn't a superficial reason I have dat guys who
05:16:54
Paulaare short wait I'm sorry roll that back shorter than me no I'm 5'5 no that's too short you would oh hold on isn't that superficial you would you date a guy who's shorter than you shorter than me
05:17:06
Paulano I'm five okay that's really superficial that I didn't not with him though I'm not in love with him though you what what you don't have to be in love with someone to go out with them you don't even know them yet you have to get to know them so would I go out would
05:17:18
Brian Atlasyou marry a guy who's who's shorter than you no cuz I wouldn't even go out with a guy who's shorter than me okay that's superficial I wouldn't be attracted to them what's wrong with that okay you're superficial so whatever you find attractive is what you find attractive
05:17:31
Brian Atlasokay so what if a guy is attractive to younger women you can be attracted to younger women but to fall in love with someone based on their looks is not hold on hold on so just to be clear it's totally okay to just [ __ ] a young woman
05:17:44
Brian Atlasand never talk to her again but if you want to have a long-term monogamous relationship and marry her that's predatory that's out of line man that's out of line you can you can [ __ ] her never talk to her [ __ ] her either but
05:17:57
Andrew Wilsonhold on you're you're making a distinction as to oh if you just date date them that's okay no wait wait wait you're not so so it's not okay for a 24-year-old woman to [ __ ] a 40-year-old man she wants to do or it's legal I just think you think it should be illegal
05:18:12
Paulathough no I don't think it cuz he would be a predator I don't think it should be he's going to jail no it's she's over
05:18:21
Brian Atlasthe age of 18 I don't think it should be illegal it's just weird it's just we it's just it's weird weird you know what's weird you dat a guy who's sure than you that's weird that's really I
05:18:34
Pauladon't find that attractive well when you're looking for attractiveness it is kind of superficial yeah whatever you find attractive it is you're basing it on looks yes but you're saying you're in love with someone because they're hot that's superficial that's not love
05:18:46
Paulathat's what he said no he gave other criteria yeah and they were surface level they were surface level she's submissive that's like hang on hang I'll just sure he just is totally in love
05:18:57
Andrew Wilsonwith her cuz she's hot what the [ __ ] is wrong with that that's not love why fall in love with someone wait you get to determine what love is you don't fall in love
05:19:09
Andrew Wilsonokay but you're saying that you are you're saying no I'm not I'm just saying in the hypothetical he does love her right but he he's in love with her and yes it's just purely based on her looks
05:19:21
Multiple Guests (02)what has Bob done that's actually wrong here I don't think that's love I think that's lust but you're saying that you wouldn't date a guy that's an inch shorter than you isn't that like kind of that's not I wouldn't be in love with
05:19:32
Paulahim cuz I wouldn't even go out with him yeah right but he wouldn't even date her if she wasn't so it's okay I'm saying I'm saying your basis for love is dependent on looks that doesn't I don't think that's enough
05:19:45
Brian Atlasto be in love it's enough to be attracted but you're misrepresenting his position his original position was he listed look she's really hot uh Andrew I think you said she was submissive you
05:19:56
Paulamaybe you worded it differently yeah so here's the three criteria she's really good-look she doesn't have any baggage right and she submits to his authority
05:20:06
Paulathose are the three crer I think yeah I think that's those I think that criteria is enough to to um be interested and to want to date them and to find it very attractive I don't think
05:20:19
Brian Atlasthat's enough to fall in love I think you're looking at it like way too black and white like also just to be clear men we don't have laundry lists of [ __ ] that
05:20:29
Brian Atlaslike like y'all women who have [ __ ] long ass list of [ __ ] that you need like it Andrew's kind of spoton be submissive be pleasant don't have baggage be physically attractive literally that's
05:20:42
Brian Atlaspretty much all you need as a woman in fact most men are probably going ju most men just hot lucky stars if they get that [ __ ] if you get just that you get a
05:20:52
Andrew Wilsonsubmissive hot woman who doesn't have trauma that's huge mega bucks Mega Bucks that's like the Mega Bucks lottery that
05:21:01
Brian Atlasyou won five times right now you're trying to conflate it to there would be no other components of the relationship I don't think that that's what Andrew is saying he's just saying she's got those three things he's and
05:21:15
Andrew Wilsonthat's why he's in love with her because of those three what would be wrong with that what would actually be wrong yeah what's wrong with that though I don't I don't like so I don't understand um if the perspective from the man is like
05:21:25
Andrew Wilsonthese three things are the things that I value and then you have those three things and you're in love with that woman and she has those three criteria that's what made you fall in love with
05:21:37
Andrew Wilsonher IIA hang on that was what your criteria was she met him you fell in love with her those are the three things you listed the things about her that made you fall in love with her how could
05:21:47
Andrew Wilsonyou dispute that like how could you say Bob that's wrong there needs to be some [ __ ] walk on the beach on Tuesdays or she don't really love her Bob right like how how how can you even make that
05:21:59
Paulastatement at that point I don't know I just think falling in love requires a deeper connection than just those little things I think that's part of it I don't think that's
05:22:10
Andrew Wilsonenough you realize like you well let me ask you this do you believe in love in First Sight no no no no so and you don't even know the person how many how many
05:22:22
Andrew Wilsondo you think how do you how many weeks do you think it would take or days do you think it would take for there to at least be a baseline where there's love I I
05:22:32
Pauladon't I personally think um a few months I think it takes a few months to really get to know someone everyone's on their best behavior the first month then you start to see the person around the
05:22:44
Paulasecond month I think it takes a couple of months to really get to know them and see the real them see them how do they handle conflict how do they hand stress my wife because she said the day she met me when
05:22:57
Andrew Wilsonshe opened the door right that it was like the scene from Wayne's World where Dream Weaver was playing in the background and there was like a shining light on me right and she said it was love adver site I couldn't I can't
05:23:09
Brian Atlasbelieve she [ __ ] lied to me Brian it's [ __ ] up it's [ __ ] up um really quick here I guess final things on this um
05:23:19
Brian Atlasso I first off with the three that Andrew gave the majority of men like men will put up with a lot of [ __ ] like men will deal with coral some nagging
05:23:30
Brian Atlaswomen I I personally don't think that's a good way to move as a man but like if you just go off of Andrew's first one she's hot you might not agree with it but a lot of
05:23:41
Brian Atlasmen that's it they'll fall in love with a girl now this idea that those three prongs that he listed is that's not enough that's like we again we don't
05:23:53
Brian Atlashave laundry lists of things be submissive don't have a bunch of don't bring trauma baggage into the relationship and be physically attractive like the vast majority of men are going to be totally fine with that
05:24:04
Brian Atlasif you come with other stuff fantastic but that's it two things here I want to talk about really quick you mentioned commonality one I would think aren't there people like your exact same age
05:24:16
Brian Atlaswho you'd be completely incompatible with so this idea that com commonality is super important seems dubious yes I think
05:24:28
Brian Atlasyeah okay can I ask a question hold on hold on hold on um and I related to that though I mean have you ever met a guy who you have everything in with but you weren't attract like you didn't want to
05:24:40
Brian Atlasdate them like I don't think commonality in and of itself is enough to be like oh I really want to [ __ ] this person I really want to date with this person I think you need more than just commonality oh
05:24:51
Brian Atlasthey like all my same music and movies and we have this whatever I can't that's not enough mhm yeah yeah yourself a best friend yeah you exactly you found
05:25:04
Brian Atlasyourself a friend but is the attraction there so commonality who gives who cares about that mhm let me ask you a question one scenario um let's say a 19-year-old girl slides into my DMs she contacts me
05:25:15
Brian AtlasI'm 35 and she's she says hey I I want to come visit you I want to take you I want to take you on a date whatever she says what would be wrong with me dating
05:25:26
Paulaher I think it's weird I think she's a child even though she's you mean she's literally an adult I I understand that legally she's an adult I still view
05:25:35
Brian Atlas19-year-olds as kids men and women okay so you view them as kids yeah but she's con she's approached me I'm not like hanging out at college parties and [ __ ]
05:25:48
Brian Atlastrying to hit on [ __ ] 19-year-olds no I'm just minding my own business she's like hey Brian blah blah blah hang on hang on first of all I don't believe you so here I can demonstrate I can
05:26:00
Andrew Wilsondemonstrate it are you saying that a man who's 40 who's with a 19-year-old's a PDF file no I think a well then they can't be
05:26:10
Andrew Wilsonkids can they no but they're practically kids that's too young they're not kids or they are kids oh my
05:26:19
Andrew WilsonGod I you're not technically a pedo okay so then they're not kids then because I mean I'm I'm pretty confident we can all agree that the definition of
05:26:30
Paulaa pedio right is that right they go after kids right yes so these clearly can't be kids or else they would be p I know I said they're not legally kids but
05:26:41
Andrew WilsonI mean they're not too far off yeah but if you if you thought that they were actually kids regardless of what the law said then these people would have to be pdos who were with them right well I didn't say he was a PD I'm just saying
05:26:53
Paulathen they can't be kids like do you see how that works like I view I view them as a kid compared to like 30s 40s I still view them as a kid I know they're not legally I you agreee with me that
05:27:05
Andrew Wilsonthere's cultures out there where like 15year olds it's perfect acceptable 15-year-olds are viewed as adults mhm yeah okay okay I'm going to agree with you right now 15-year-olds are not [ __ ] adults regardless of what that
05:27:17
Andrew Wilsonculture says right you agree with that right right okay so I would still say morally that's a 15-year-old and if you're doing stuff with them you're a
05:27:26
Andrew Wilsonheile you're doing something really evil and bad right mhm but in this culture right you would have to then bite the same bullet and say well if
05:27:37
Andrew Wilsonthey're actually kids then at 19 these people would be some type of file right if if you actually view them as
05:27:46
Andrew Wilsonkids I you I'm I never once said that they are a file I'm not calling a 40 or whatever then you can't be saying that these people are kids that's like that what that is it's loaded language to try
05:27:58
Andrew Wilsonto socially shame people when you say that's a kid though and it's like then the second I question you I realize actually you don't view them as kids because if you did you would view the
05:28:09
Andrew Wilsonperson who was with them as being some kind of Predator right you'd have to or or can you name another situation where an adult goes after a kid whether they not Predators I'd like to hear
05:28:21
Multiple Guests (02)it no I still that's just my opinion you had something go ahead what how many years is it weird is it 10 15 I said 20
05:28:31
Natalie Tasha Thompsonso there's actually a formula for that um which just I'll make this quick but it's half your age plus seven is like your base and then double your age minus
05:28:42
Natalie Tasha Thompsonseven is your ceiling typically like socially speaking so as a 40-year-old your lowest let me do quick math would be
05:28:52
Natalie Tasha Thompson27 and on the high side it would be double your age so 80 minus 7 would be 73 oh so the older you get the bigger it
05:29:02
Natalie Tasha Thompsongets but typically socially there is a formula for what that age Gap should be I just think it's weird that you keep using well women
05:29:13
Multiple Guests (02)aren't mature enough in XYZ but I'm still going back to the fact that you dated someone 12 years younger than you and it sounds like you're okay with it with it being men or like you know like
05:29:24
Multiple Guests (02)boys but like versus women so I'm trying to grasp what the difference is of why in your eyes men might be mature enough to date older women but women aren't I would not date a 19-year-old man so my
05:29:37
Paulaboyfriend at the time was was 25 I said 24 and under is questionable on both sides so my boyfriend at the time was 25 so I don't I don't see a problem with
05:29:47
Paulathat I don't think the women aren't mature at 19 I just think they're I just think they don't have enough dating experience to look for certain signs and red flags that they could end up you
05:29:59
Paulaknow in a situation where they're controlled or yeah but they could end up in that situation with a guy who's their age yeah so yeah because but when they're older they're able to discern better so they won't end up in that situation they've never been in a
05:30:12
Paularelationship before they haven't there's no there's nothing in their past to constitute that so if you had a son and you're 40 never had a relationship before you're saying that could be the situation for sure and you're still going to say that they have no
05:30:25
Andrew Wilsonrelationship background to be able to identify those right can I also can I just add one last thing and I think maybe you'll agree with me on this too that if a person is really [ __ ] stupid when they're young they're usually [ __ ] stupid when they're old
05:30:38
Andrew Wilsonand if a person has really bad discernment when they're young they usually have really bad discernment when they're old now here's the the opposite Trend I've noticed when young people have really good discernment they have really good discernment when they get
05:30:50
Andrew Wilsonolder and if they're really smart when they're young they're smart when they're older people never grow thing when you're talking about discernment especially right think it's a thing you have or you don't have I don't think
05:31:01
Andrew Wilsonthat it if you're making good decisions at 23 you're not making good decisions at 43 but I definitely think if you're not making good decisions at 23 you're probably not making good decisions at 43 you're saying people don't grow and
05:31:14
Andrew Wilsonevolve at all no I'm not saying that at all I'm saying that some parts of intuition and some parts of what is intuitive uh stay with you just like intelligence if you're stupid when
05:31:25
Andrew Wilsonyou're 24 you're generally pretty stupid when you're 44 and if you have good discernment when you're 24 you generally have good discernment when you're 44 what I'm saying is that those things don't go away they get enhanced am I
05:31:37
Andrew Wilsonsaying that you could have a 19-year-old who gets a bit smarter as she gets older sure have a bit better discernment as she gets older perhaps but the thing is is like if they had good discernment to
05:31:48
Andrew Wilsonbegin with that's just going to grow if they had bad discernment it's probably not going to it's probably always going to stay the same have you ever notice the trend when young people are fuckups when they're older they're usually still
05:32:00
Paulafuckups right they you noticed that I don't agree with that I believe in growth and change learning from your past experiences some people don't learn some people do I'm one of the people who did
05:32:10
Brian Atlaslearn here pull up the chart all right so this is intelligence so the red curve is or hold on relationship between age and general
05:32:21
Brian Atlasintelligence is the blue crystallized intelligence is the green and fluid intelligence is the red uh so you could
05:32:31
Brian Atlasactually kind of make an argument that that a woman at 20 is more intelligent than a man at 40 with the exception of uh that would
05:32:42
Brian Atlasbe the crystallized intelligence which is the important part but you have the uh red which is the fluid intelligence which takes a
05:32:52
Brian Atlasnose dive at 25 it Peaks at 25 but starts going down so the red that's the uh fluid intelligence so I don't know so sometimes younger people be more
05:33:03
Multiple Guests (02)intelligent in certain metrics but isn't it scientifically speaking men don't fully mature till they're 41 41 correct yeah
05:33:15
Andrew Wilsonlook it up I don't know look it up no you're talking devel when you're talking about fully mature are you saying that the the the like the end of their growth of their brain and everything else is
05:33:27
Multiple Guests (02)finally complete correct women I believe it's 3233 and for men it's 4041 you okay and so what do we what do you mean by fully developed though just so that I
05:33:37
Multiple Guests (02)understand uh emotional maturity mhm um so men stop having emotional maturity past 41 no their brain is finally fully
05:33:47
Multiple Guests (02)developed okay so then what does fully developed mean having the capacity to understand everything to the highest extent that your brain can give you so
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Natalie Tasha Thompsonthey can never understand past 41 any higher than their understanding at 41 no it's what did you say it's the front it's the frontal but it's not that old I know that
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Natalie Tasha Thompsonstudies have prefrontal for women is supposed to be fully developed at 25 25 yeah and I think it's 28 for men I do think that that shifted now with a lot of the rise in technology I think it's more like 28 and 31 based on recent
05:34:24
Brian Atlasstudies but it's I need to move things on we have a lot to get through guys so um let's get let's do this um what's the
05:34:32
Brian Atlasminimum yearly income you'd like your future husband to make
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Multiple Guests (02)uh I don't know I I'm not like I'm very much I'm probably do you want do you want them to make more than you or as much as you I don't think to me it matters
05:34:58
Multiple Guests (02)because I know that I'm going to always provide for myself and I'm not going to depend on my partner's like income fully to do you want to have kids
05:35:09
Brian Atlasyes would you be okay with dating a man who wants to be a stay-at-home husband no so his money does matter I think okay what would be the minimum income would you dat a guy who works at McDonald's while you're as long
05:35:22
Multiple Guests (02)as we're not on the poverty line if I loved him and I was able to provide as well like it wouldn't matter to me cuz money is not as significant as a connection okay what about you um it
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Multiple Guests (02)would definitely have to be the same amount or more as I'm making much be less um I don't know I would say like preferably if I could pick like
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Multiple Guests (02)a number like above 200k a year more than 200,000 what about you I think where I live matters so I'd say at least
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Multiple Guests (02)maybe above or no minimum 80k 80k okay yeah I think 60 to 100 okay I actually don't care as long as
05:36:03
Multiple Guests (02)you're working as hard as you can okay he's working really hard at McDonald's that is all that matters to me try your hardest and we'll get there
05:36:12
Andreaeventually okay yep all right around 6 figures give or take so 90 to 110 yeah okay what about you um a grown
05:36:24
Brian Atlasman probably you got to lower the mic or fix your posture six figures six figures so what what does that mean that's either $100,000 or 999 yeah like minimum 100 minimum 100,000 okay what about you
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Joydoesn't matter how much does your husband make so if your husband stopped working you'd be fine with it um well no I mean he has to work but it doesn't matter I I don't have a requirement as
05:36:49
Joyto how much you have do you have kids or do you want kids or it's a little different situation cuz we don't have kids I we both work okay what about you with the degree
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DaliaI'm supposed to be getting like in a couple of years or a year or whatever however long it takes I would want them to at least make half of what I make or more so it would so for an accountant like when they start it's like 90,000 or
05:37:13
Dalia80,000 so I would want them to make at least 4 to 50,000 okay what about you uh my husband and I make the same amount of money
05:37:24
Multiple Guests (02)so uh so are you are you are you wanting to know how much sure the number I guess uh 65k okay thanks I would say at least half of what I make and hopefully you're
05:37:35
Brian Atlasalso working on growing your career cuz that's what I do um so I don't really have like a set number all right what about you uh without kids 75 with kids 150 okay all
05:37:48
Brian Atlasright and then height uh how tall are you and what's the minimum height that you would date um I'm 55 uh
05:37:58
Brian Atlasit's probably like like how tall do you want your let's not do minimum for you to date because you would maybe date a guy who's willing to take you to golf and stuff or whatever um minimum height for your husband wait
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Brian Atlaswhat don't worry about it minimum height for your golf what I'm gol stuff oh I know what you talking about that place is fun AUP place isn't it it's a conce oh my god do I have to conceivably a woman would go on a date with a guy that
05:38:23
Brian Atlasshe's not attracted to because the guy is offering her like a experience oh let me take you to this concert that's your favorite musician okay he's like five he's like a dwarf you might go on a date
05:38:35
Brian Atlaswith him does that make sense no I wouldn't because that's not my character like if I'm not interested in but could you conceive that a woman would go on a date with a guy that she's not attracted
05:38:47
Andrew Wilsonto because he's offering to take her to the Bahamas sure okay so also how would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this
05:38:55
Brian Atlasmorning what how would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning hry angry somebody answered it for her so somebody whispered it um
05:39:08
Brian Atlasokay that would have been my answer how tall are you how tall are you and what would be the minimum height for like your future husband the guy you're going to spend your life with okay I'm 55
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Multiple Guests (02)probably like 5'2 I don't really care about 5'2 okay um I'm 5'6 so he would have to be same height or taller okay I'm 5'8 so I would prefer like I don't
05:39:30
Multiple Guests (02)know I kind of want to wear heels if I could so like 510 okay what about you I'm 5'10 I'd rather them be 5'11 or
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Paulahigher sure I'm 5'5 I'd say like 5'7 5'8 mhm yeah I'm 5'5 so like taller than me
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Joy5'8 and higher I'm 5'9 so probably 5'10 or higher I'm 5'7 uh minimum would probably be 5'6 cuz that's my husband he's a little shorter I'm 411 and I love
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Daliawearing heels so uh I would want someone who probably is like 5'4 M or higher I'm 5'7 and my preference would be 57 or or