Andrew Wilson CLASHES With Boss Babe Conservative Feminist Girls?! HEATED Debate! | Dating Talk #238

Date: 2025-04-14

Duration: 8h 02m

Guests

CCaitlyn (Virgin)

LLauren (Brothel)

LLydia (Pro-Life)

Brian Atlas

AAndrew Wilson >

NNatalie (Seattle)>

AAbigail (Married)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Abigail (Married)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Ryder(guest)

SPEAKER_06Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_14Natalie (Seattle)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 8 guests introduced

Key MomentAndrew Wilson defends male authority/headship in marriage. Significant pushback.

Key Moment$999 champagne pop from Ogle

Key MomentRyder's TikToks: nice guy ex and abusive ex-husband

ControversyLydia's abortion clinic confrontation video — most contentious segment

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

8 guests: Ryder (abusive ex), Maddie (LDS), Lydia (pro-life), Natalie, Lauren (brothel), Haley (dairy), Caitlyn (virgin), Abigail (married at 19).

Ashley St. Clair / Elon Musk Baby

Panel reacts to Ashley discussing having Elon Musk baby.

Andrew Wilson Authority in Marriage

Andrew defends Orthodox Christian male headship. Significant pushback.

Ryder TikToks

Nice guy ex and abusive ex-husband TikToks. Ethical debate on posting about exes.

Lydia Abortion Clinic Video

Most contentious segment. Confrontational interaction with clinic staff.

IVF Burning Building Hypothetical

Save 5-year-old or 1,000 embryos? Tests embryo personhood beliefs.

Transcript

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SPEAKER_09the bovine fetus? It's just a clump of cells, right? Abby, stay based. Abby. Oh, Abby. Yeah. Anybody? Can I add something? Sure. First of all, I'm completely against factory farming. I

SPEAKER_04think it's completely cruel and I think killing a animal and the fetus just to eat it is wrong and stuff. But I do understand that there is a difference between humans and um animals and stuff. I'm I am an animal activist even though

SPEAKER_04I don't like pit bulls so I'm going to get crashed for that. Um but uh I think they deserve the best life possible. Monkeys. What do I think about what monkeys or primates? I think animals

SPEAKER_04should not be tested on for any um treatments other than medical. No, but what do you think about them as as people or not? They don't have the reason why humans are more valuable obviously from a religious perspective

SPEAKER_04is because we are made in the image of God. But also it's agency. They have instincts. We have animals. Animals only act on instinct. Whereas we have the ability to

SPEAKER_04act based on morality and act above our instinct and make complex decisions and have a sense of creativity that animals don't have. For real though, I don't

Brian Atlasknow. Chad with monkeys. There's something about monkeys that bother me. Really? What kind of monkeys? Kind of like us. All monkeys bother me for some reason. Really? Well, cuz have you ever

Brian Atlasseen these? They're kind of bullies. Have you ever seen these videos where they'll like and one they're dangerous, some of them, a lot of them, but they'll like these tourist areas. They'll like steal your [ __ ]

Brian AtlasThey'll steal your [ __ ] The chimps will kill you. Really aggressive. They'll play with you, too. Some of these some of these monkeys are well, tigers. And even some of the small ones, their teeth, they'll rip you up.

Brian AtlasWe the baby monkeys have really sharp teeth. Not too like Mona monkeys. Mona monkeys. There's certain monkeys that like they're they're still small but their teeth are and they got they'll rip your flesh. I like the orange ones the

SPEAKER_04baby orange ones cuz there's this thing called feast of the monkeys in Thailand and that's like on my bucket list and and it's every year and all these monkeys eat all this food that's just put out by the town's people and they're just raiding it and it's just they're

SPEAKER_04everywhere and there's babies and do it. Thailand's the best. I went there. Yeah. Yeah, they do steal stuff though. The thie the thievery is from the monkeys. Yeah, they're just so smart. It's almost intimidating and steal them as pets and

SPEAKER_04I think that's stupid. Oh yeah. No, there's warning signs. Whenever I go to like Thailand or China, there's like warning signs inside of the buildings like keep the windows closed cuz they're going to come in and steal your stuff. And the big ones will attack people. We

SPEAKER_09got a message here, Selena. Thank you, Selena. Appreciate it. Share might be boring, but she's the type of girl that most men want. Great attitude and soft feminine demeanor. Not a roast, but I

Brian Atlasguess good panels are hard to roast. Keep it up. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Selena Gornz. Are we the best panel? Is this the best

Brian Atlaspanel? I thought I mean it was uh it definitely leans a bit more conservative, which is uh um how do I explain it? Like usually it's a bit more split, right? It'll be like

Brian Atlassplit conservatives. Oh, I thought you intentionally set it up like this. What's that? Was it? I thought you set it up like this on purpose. Uh, no, not really. It was just kind of happen stance that happened to be. But it's good to have like a This is a little

Brian Atlasdifferent than our normal show just cuz it leans more conservative. Uh, we had some other people that were I mean, you're pretty much Well, it's you two are kind of more like left-leaning, I

Brian Atlasguess. So, uh, we were we had some flakes. So, uh, and a walk-off. So, oh boy. large labia donated $30. Share 8

SPEAKER_09years. Do you I bang Brian? When he's talking, you stare at his lips and eyes. It's weird. She's looking at the beard and she's admiring as a man looks like Brian. Shout out Charlotte, North

Brian AtlasCarolina. [Music] She's actually right next to me. Right next to me, there's there's like computers and I've been looking at your notes. Sorry.

Brian AtlasShe's been looking at this Dr. Seuss book. This This is what she's been eyeballing. The better the butter battle book. Uh, in fact, here. Can you read the first like three pages? Uh, can't keep offending me. Oh, I've

Abigail (Married)got you. Okay, here. Go ahead. Read Hold it up to the camera like how as if you're reading to children. Do you want me to like read the My grandfather took me out to the wall. Sorry. The wall.

Abigail (Married)For a while, he stood silent. Then finally he said with a very sad shake of his very old head. As you know on this side of the wall, "We are yuks." Is that what that says? On the far other side of

Brian Atlasthis wall lives the zuks. Okay, I think that was sufficient. That's what you She's been really wanting I also have a Harry Potter book if you want to read something. Uh the go the chamber of secrets. Yeah, that makes me so

Abigail (Married)uncomfortable. No, I am married and obsessed with my husband and you're getting the wrong idea. She has a good looking husband. Oh, yeah. You saw my home screen. You were like, "Yeah, he's he's also a model. He's beautiful."

Brian AtlasThere you have it, folks. Uh, the straight panda chair eight. Not sure what you keep staring at. What the [ __ ] But oh, this has been up the whole time. Uh, it's definitely sus. Chill. Chair seven. I challenge you to find someone

Abigail (Married)to debate Andrew and Joseph Smith. Difference between cute. We read this. Okay, I'm going to address this now. Um, I probably shouldn't, but I've been reading your notes cuz they're right

Abigail (Married)here so that I can get a head start. Sorry, but they are right there. So, unfair advantage. Please leave me alone. I'm obsessed with my husband.

Brian AtlasIt's weird. All right, guys. Uh, we have just a few more things to read, then we're going to get this wrapped up. So, oops. Sorry, guys. Uh, guys, $30 TTS if

Brian Atlasyou want to get a roast in here. $30 TTS. Also guys, follow us on YouTube. Sorry, not YouTube, Twitch. Twitch.tv/w whatever. Drop us a follow and a prime

Brian Atlassub if you have one. twitch.tv whatever. And like the video, guys, if you've enjoyed the stream. It was a good panel. We have a message here from Selena.

SPEAKER_09Selena Gorn is donated $30. No, not the best, but very good panel. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. It's a gift horse, not a burrito. This panel is

Brian Atlasdiverse in thoughts and opinions, but not extreme in either direction. It was a good panel. It was a good panel. Uh, okay. Let's finish up these notes here. Uh, Lauren, your one note is I think

SPEAKER_04maybe you saw one of my tweets. You said, "What if the woman was nice her lifetime, but never got was considered pretty?" Is this in response to my lip filler tweet? It So, you I think you said something about like lip filler or

SPEAKER_04plastic surgery. And I um I just I think I said, "Oh, it's if let's say the woman was just not considered pretty by like

SPEAKER_04men and she just kept like it kept failing like she kept getting rejected or it just wasn't working." So, she was like, "You know what? I'm just going to give plastic surgery a whirl to see if it changes my fate." And it did. And the

SPEAKER_04people responded to her. Like I remember the first day I got lip filler and the first day I got plastic surgery, men were like all of a sudden giving me their phone numbers and like all of a sudden like holding doors open for me and I'm like dang like this is really

SPEAKER_04weird. And and I remember I remember I got plastic surgery again. It was like a couple weeks later and I was only like 19 at that time but I started early and

SPEAKER_04I remember when I got it and then this guy like hit on me like a this some random guy like another one. I was like damn. Um, and I said to myself in the car when I got back in, I had like my Starbucks or whatever. I was like,

SPEAKER_04"Damn, that's cold." I was like, "It's cold." Because if I if I went in there like 3 weeks ago, he wouldn't even notice me. But because I did this, I was like, "Dang, like that's hard." Like,

SPEAKER_04you know, and so so, you know, I did it for several years and I tried to make everything look pretty natural. Um, there was a time I did go overboard though and I look like an entirely different like nationality. Um, so I I

SPEAKER_04had to actually get some stuff removed for sure. like you're doing women who try to be natural a disservice by giving like an unrealistic standard. Um, so I I just I just feel like I I refuse to

SPEAKER_04suffer. Like I just I I'm over that period of my life and I hope that you know those women could be like, "Oh, like I understand like why does she keep having to struggle like if she's just

SPEAKER_04trying to look like just fit in like you know I don't I don't see anything wrong with it." But I think I think that plastic surgery if somebody wants to get it, it's cool. Um, but obviously there's

SPEAKER_04we've all seen like you know they have like X boobs and you know and and and you wonder like oh can they travel on an airplane? Is that safe? Um but uh yeah.

SPEAKER_04Well yeah you know they can explode if you Yeah. Too big. And I but yeah I mean I just always wondered that like I was like dang like what if the girl just wasn't considered attractive? Like what do you is she supposed to just die? I

Brian Atlaswas like she supposed to die out? Yes. No, but look, I mean uh but for I guess for whatever for what other reason would women get plastic surgery but not to

SPEAKER_04improve their physical appearance. So that's I mean you don't get plastic surgery to look worse. So well there are some plastic surgeries that are kind of done for health benefits. I haven't had a plastic surgery, but there is one. We're talking about cosmetic like I

Brian Atlasthink the context of the conversation would indicate like the I'm not talking about like you know you've got some war injury and you need your face reconstructed plastic surgery. I'm

SPEAKER_04talking about like you know lip fillers, tit, boob implants, BBL. For me it was so what happened was is I think that I like overworked when I was young and like I've totally like this will be like

SPEAKER_04in my little novel I'm writing whatever but um I think I overworked and what happens is is you start to lose like the collagen in your face and I literally my

SPEAKER_04I work at a I worked at AIG for 5 years but before I worked at McDonald's for 5 years and I remember my customers would really like me and they knew me since high school and I remember one who was a manager at AIG came through the

SPEAKER_04drive-thru and she was the one that discovered me and gave me my job there. She came through and she was like, "Oh my gosh." She was like, "What's wrong?" And I said, "I'm working three jobs and I'm tired." And she said, "Honestly, I thought you were an old woman. Like, I'm" and she said, "I'm being really I'm not being mean." She says, "You need to

SPEAKER_04get out of here. You need to get out of three jobs. I'm going to get you like one solid job and you're going to be okay." Sure enough, I got out of there. She got me a job and I took off after

Brian Atlasthat and then I got my plastic surgery and then my life changed. Mhm. Okay. So, plastic surgery, you got more attention from the men. I I I'm not going to actually even dispute that. I'm

Brian Atlassure that women uh me personally, I mean, aesthetically, I don't find plastic surgery attractive women. Uh if she has a small upper lip, prefer that over the lip filler, like the lip filler lip, it just looks weird. Uh she could

Brian Atlashave small boobs. I'd prefer that over like perfect fake titties. She could have no butt or a small butt. I'd prefer that over a perfect BBL. She could have like a little belly fat. I'd prefer that over the lipo belly. Um, I think there's

Brian Atlassome uncanny valley when it comes to the plastic surgery. It doesn't quite look right. I also think it uh I would hope that women were we were pushing instead of going through these expensive and

Brian Atlasoften dangerous surgical procedures. We pushed women more towards accepting themselves as they are. I think that could be men and men both men and women

Brian Atlasdo. But I personally just my own aesthetic taste. Yeah. I don't find it I don't think it looks good. And then I also think on top of that just aesthetically speaking I think it can

Brian Atlasalso be tends to be proxy for uh some sort of mental illness. So there's like some body dysmorphia like okay if you're you're so dissatisfied like let's say you have a a cup or a B cup you're so

Brian Atlasdissatisfied with that that and I understand it can be a point of insecurity for some women um and they feel like they might be more attractive to men if they had larger breasts but if

Brian Atlasit's like okay I'm going to spend thousands of dollars and then uh go under anesthesia which carries a risk of death with it so my breast so I can put

Brian Atlasplastic into my chest I think that that's like an indicator towards body dysmorphia and vanity and like me personally I think most men a lot of

Brian Atlasthis stuff I feel like women do some of that stuff one yes for men but I almost think it's more so especially the lip filler I think it's more so for women because I've spoken to a lot of men most

Brian Atlasmen and this is this was the tweet I wrote I don't think lip filler looks good like I genuinely like big lips are nice and attractive, but not the lip filler lips. I think it was my teeth

SPEAKER_04were so big. They were I actually had braces twice and I had braces for 11 years. And um I also had got had to get the once they came off, everybody hated my smile and they're like, "Uh, better not smile. Like, I don't like it. It looks creepy." And so I ended up

SPEAKER_04replacing I took from my retirement and I replaced the entire top row of my teeth instead of getting a boob job. And and then everyone's like, "Wow, you have such a beautiful smile." And I was like, "Wow, I'm finally complimented. Jesus, like took forever." Yeah, sure. Sure. I

Brian Atlasdon't dispute the fact that women who maybe got minimal or no attention from men, they get fake tits, they get their face done, they get the lip filler, maybe they change other things about them, and then they start getting some

Brian Atlasmore attention. I'm sure that this happens. I'm absolutely sure that this happens. There's probably some cohort of men who do like the fake fake breasts. I'm not disputing this. Me personally, and I do think this is the case for the

Brian Atlasmajority of men. I think the majority of men uh don't want women with plastic surgery. And in addition to the aesthetic components, I just don't think that it tends to be an indicator.

Brian AtlasPerhaps it's doing us a favor in some ways. If I see a girl with like crazy lip filler and she's got Botox and she's got uh fake boobs, that's a red flag. like I'm not there's going to be a

Brian Atlasmismatch here in terms of in terms of values and um and there's there's going to be something maybe materialistic about her. There's going to be a degree of vanity that I don't find attractive. And so to me, I just I don't like it.

Brian AtlasI've asked a bunch of men if they like the lip fillers. They don't like it. I think the lip filler thing the the closest thing that I could think of and maybe the women can weigh in here. You know those crazy steroid

Brian Atlasbodybuilders? Yeah. I think they know a lot of women say and I think it's different than lip filler. It's not a perfect onetoone comparison. A lot of women say those insanely huge bodybuilders, they're like

Brian AtlasI don't find that attractive. It's like gross. They do it for the gross to be like but they do it but they do it

Brian Atlasanyways. And despite women's stated uh displeasure with these super steroided guys. Yeah. And I genuinely think well one they're doing it for themselves and

Brian Atlasbut they're kind of doing it for men. Yeah. I I think if looking back so lip filler is like that like I think women there's actually a study on this recently that came up but we don't we

Brian Atlascan't pull it up but uh women I think get lip filler for other women because I think what's interesting is women's appraisal of what makes women or themselves beautiful is kind of

Brian Atlasdifferent than men in the same way that men who are like aiming for this super super like massive musculature I do think women are attracted to fit strong muscular But not I don't think if you pull most

Brian Atlasof them it's not going to be like that hyper like giant Arnold it's going to be more of like a very athletic uh build that I think they're going to

SPEAKER_04find like the most attractive. Yeah, I think looking back out of I think you know I kind of I actually do kind of agree in a sense where looking back I look at the plastic surgery I got. I

SPEAKER_04look at my situation you know everything and I just think you know it could just be I in summary my book is going to talk about I could have just been in the wrong place at the wrong time. What's

SPEAKER_04the title of your book going to be? Um the gentrification of me the gentrification of me. So I I absorbed different things from different

SPEAKER_04places um over my whole life and it became my personality and I was changed forever by by whatever uh the culture of uh there was a lot of Iraqi influence

SPEAKER_04where we were from and I learned a lot. They helped me and I worked I was the only um Latin native that worked with uh Iraqi. I I love the food and stuff and then there's also other um Playboy like

SPEAKER_04everything influenced me like McDonald's, AIG, all that. But last thing. Sure. Last thing. Last thing. Yeah. Sorry. Um so I think that um I was

SPEAKER_04at the wrong I I do in summation looking back on my life. I do believe uh some people they aren't mentally ill. They aren't ugly. They aren't this. They aren't that. They're born in the wrong area and they need to get the hell out

SPEAKER_04after three. If if you're like 18 and you're having really bad experiences or just not so savory ones the majority of those years and then three more years go by, it's time to get

SPEAKER_04out of dodge and you need to go to a different place because perhaps like you said like men like like you like I I feel like from in my town it was very maybe there was more attractive women

SPEAKER_04than me out there. So you just didn't get hit on? I didn't at all. And and I but other women other I was the friend girl. I was the guy's friend. I was the guy's friend. But then they would always tell me, "Oh, your friend is so

SPEAKER_04beautiful. You're I" I was the ugly friend like to to them. And so I I literally was just like I had Yeah, I know. And I like I had Can't believe it. I had little things here and there, but

SPEAKER_04then once I once the I would say once like 18 hit or I would say 19 to 20 one, that wasn't good years at all. And so um

SPEAKER_04or I would say even 18, but um yeah, it was just those were the toughest ones, but once I got into Playboy and everything changed, cool. But yeah, I think I was in the wrong place. I should have been somewhere else and maybe

SPEAKER_04people would have found me attractive somewhere else. And and I think you should have gone to uh you should have gone anywhere else. You should have gone to Kenya. Yeah. I mean I could have I could have and then maybe men would have

Brian Atlasfound me attractive you in Kenya but you had to be born in Oklahoma. Oh my god. Of course it didn't. Of course since you know what we should have packed your

SPEAKER_04bags sent you to Nigeria. Maybe maybe I would have felt like Ethiopia somewhere. They would have loved you in Somalia. Yeah. And and then

SPEAKER_04but then like I these [ __ ] American men the [ __ ] I don't know. I think it was just the grass was greener. There probably was very be Is there grass in his I don't know. Do they Is there grass

Brian AtlasSahara? Do they know how to do landscaping? Whatever. Okay, I got to move it on. Thank you. Thank No, it's good. It was good. Thank you, Lauren. Okay, Haley. Haley, you said you've been through two rough relationships. Wait,

Brian Atlasdid we cover this last time? No, we didn't cover Yeah, we didn't cover any of my notes. uh two rough relationships. One that got physical involved weed and alcohol while the other one just the twist uh he used to twist scripture and

Brian Atlasusing verses out of context as benefit. Proverbs 21:19. Uh no, that's my go-to. I need to not lay down the law. Proverbs 21:19. Better to live in a

Brian Atlasdesert than with a quarrelome and nagging wife. Is that the only Bible verse you have memorized? Uh, I also know the one where it it I don't recall the name of it, but it goes something

Brian Atlaslike this. It goes something like this. Children, sons, excuse me, sons in a man's youth are like arrows in the hand

Brian Atlasof a warrior. Nice. I actually don't know the Wait, how's the rest go? Rich is the man whose quiver is full. Mhm. Or some [ __ ] Yeah, something like that.

Brian AtlasThat or some shit's also part of it. I think I think it's there. Um, which translation are you reading? The Atlas, New Kings, Atlas, I don't know. Um, all

Brian Atlasright. Uh, but okay. So, he threw scripture in your face. Uh, you're currently in the most healthy relationship you've ever been in. You couldn't thank God more. You guys met on

Brian AtlasChristian dating app. Christian Mingle. Uh, no. Upward. Upward. That one. All right. These girls are both on it. Um, you said that uh you guys known each other for two years. August together for

Brian Atlastwo years. Uh in November he's in the Air Force. He's 5 and a half years. Is he deployed or No, he's not. But he was deployed. So he was in Where's he stationed? Uh right now he's in

SPEAKER_04Fairfield. Uh Travis Air Force. So is it long distance? Um yes, cuz I am going to school in Fresno. So it's like medium distance. Okay. Medium distance is funny. Medium distance relationship. Uh you wouldn't have expected when you were

Brian Atlasyounger, but he is your dream man. He has all the qualities you have prayed for your whole life. Uh okay, that's cool. Well, you said men initiating. You understand the reasoning why of why men don't initiate as much as they did back

SPEAKER_04then, but men don't even try at all anymore. Um, yeah. Does this resonate with any of the females here? Men just they're not trying. Men not initiating. Yeah. I feel like before I started

SPEAKER_04dating, I was kind of just like waiting around for a man to even come up and like have a conversation with me about like, you know, if I was single or anything like that. And I feel like that

SPEAKER_04was never happening when I was single. I don't know if you guys have had I feel like it's because of social media honestly that like guys can get what they want without having to go talk in person. Like Snapchat, I hate as someone who works in a youth ministry at my

Natalie (Seattle)church. I tell all my middle school girls, delete Snapchat. It's bad news. Guys are just on there to get pictures from girls. And I definitely know some guys that pursue, like even my brother, for example, he goes and asks girls out

Natalie (Seattle)and for sure. So I wouldn't say that. And I also think that girls too unfortunately um deny a lot of guys also because of social media. So I think it kind of goes

Brian Atlasboth ways unfortunately. Like Abby said um you said majority of women are very hypocritical but them put themselves on a pedestal and think the world basically revolves around them. Modern dating is

SPEAKER_04horrible. Women wanting all the things from men without even knowing what he would want in a perfect woman. Um yeah, I think women um are very hypocritical. I think that they uh try and stand on

SPEAKER_04values because they know that those values will take them somewhere positive. Um but then they make decisions that are absolutely completely opposite of what they are advocating

SPEAKER_04for. So it's there's just a lot of hypocrisy. Um so it's very frustrating. You guys have me using the term bars all the time.

Brian Atlasbars. Blessed is the man. Wait, the the sons of man Wait a sons in a man's youth are like arrows in a warrior's hand. Blessed

SPEAKER_04is he whose quiver is okay. [ __ ] whatever. I don't know. I I forgot. Was the reference was the reference? Yeah, it was the actual verse. Like was Oh, Psalm 1274.

Brian AtlasYeah. Uh okay, we have let's see with Haley's thing. I think uh you said oh you also think women have the most optionality when they stay virgins and as you get more bodies the less options

SPEAKER_04you will have. Are you virgin or I'm not. Um but I do agree that I think that Wait, are you waiting till marriage though or No, I am not. Oh, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04Yeah. He is your dream man. He is He is my dream man. Yes. If he can if he proposed if he proposed to to this day I Yeah. I I would give everything for that

Brian Atlasman. So, okay. All right. Final notes here for Caitlyn. Caitlyn, final person. Anyways, you said your first date ever was when you were 16. His ex showed up and cuddled with him. Yeah. Oh my god.

Brian AtlasI'm a little traumatized. His ex showed up and cuddled with him and he was so sweet but also tried to cuddle with you. You left. This was your first date ever? It was my very first date. That's traumatic. It was so traumatic. What the

SPEAKER_04heck? It was awful. Oh, girl. Why did he do that? Um, he didn't invite her her. It was a double date. So, he in his friend invited her because he wanted to get the gang back together. The gang? What the heck? Are you sure this was a

SPEAKER_04date? It's a date? No. I told him very clearly, "Okay, this is the first date. It's a double date." Um, it's my very first date. I'm so excited to meet with you. And the guy just did not comprehend and thought I was going to scadaddle before it. It was so weird. I'm

Brian Atlastraumatized. That does sound. You said you believe women need to be submissive and men need to man up and be masculine. Abortion. Oh, wait. Uh okay. Uh yeah, abortion was even the thing to

Brian Atlasbring into modern society and for us to thrive, it needs to be eradicated. Absolutely. Okay. You said uh you disagree with Brian on the artificial womb discussion and male promiscuity. Okay. Uh we we'll have to be quick on these, but let's start with the male

SPEAKER_04promiscuity one. What's the disagreement? Um I believe you used to be kind of okay with male promiscuity. I don't remember 100%. I was watching some old episodes and I think you used to be. You're anti-marriage, right? You are,

Brian Atlasfrom what I understand, anti-marriage. Yeah. Well, so I'll adjust the first thing. So, um, I don't think I've ever I've pretty sure for the most part, I've been uh against male promiscuity. I might have gotten it mixed up with

Brian Atlassomeone else, but I think there's differences for uh I think there's differences. So, yeah. Yeah. But I agree. I'm not in

Brian Atlasfavor of male promiscuity, but I do think it's uh there's a difference. No, I agree. Like it's any woman could be a [ __ ]

SPEAKER_04Not every man can be a [ __ ] Yeah. So, it's kind of like if the man is a [ __ ] Takes a bit of skill. It does. Takes a bit of skill for him to be skill to hide, conceal those urges. I think it's

SPEAKER_04way more attractive if a guy is like, "Hey, I have these urges, but I held them back. I have so much great control over myself. Yeah. And then I guess the other component is there I think there's

Brian Atlasmore of a perhaps a biological urge for promiscuity in men. Mhm. Yeah. I think society functions better monogously. But

Brian AtlasI think from like a biological level just just due to reproduction. Like y'all can only get pregnant like a man can have sleep with 10 different

Brian Atlaswomen, get them all pregnant per day. Mhm. Maybe not 10. I mean, especially if he's in his 30s, but a woman, you got nine months. That's it. So, there's like an evolutionary

Brian Atlasthing. Yeah. Or biological. Definitely. But I don't think it's good for society. And uh Yeah. But let's switch to artificial. Oh, well, anti-marriage. Yes. Not not in favor of marriage. You don't think I should be married? Uh no.

Brian AtlasSo, I think for religious reasons, it's actually a great just like that's the only reason I can think of to get married. But I can't actually think if I'm open to hearing a compelling secular

Brian Atlasargument for why uh like a benefit in totality for why men should get married. Okay. So, in my church, you get sealed in the temple and not only do you get Did you miss the part about secular? But go ahead. Okay. Sorry. No, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04What about your church? You um get to be sealed in the temple and be with them for eternity. So the benefit of doing a marriage past the law with um and um doing a temple marriage is you get to be with this person in heaven forever.

Brian AtlasWait, what happens in death do us part? Like I'll give you uh earthly like I'll be with you. I can stand you for my earth life, but once it's heaven, I'm

Brian Atlasgood. I Once we get to heaven, you're going to try. It was nice knowing you, right? Cuz it was death till deathart. Yeah. In heaven, we're not going Can I

Brian Atlasstart playing like heaven? not going to recognize our husbands. Madison wives. Maddie. Maline. Sorry. I'm sorry. Madline. Maline. Is that French? That's a French name. I always French. Maline,

SPEAKER_04you French? No. Okay. Um, but you know you death do us part. No, there's no marriages in heaven. I think you can't get married. No, there's no marriage in heaven. Sex

Brian Atlasin heaven. No, I I mean there's no sex. Are we just like Barbie dolls? There's nothing there. We're just desires. Those are earthly desires. Earthly desires. So, is it like Avatar in heaven? Desires of the flesh.

SPEAKER_04You know, in Avatar where it's like the the hairs connect. Yeah. No, there's just no marriage anymore. It's just like we wouldn't we won't care about that anymore. We'll be too happy.

Brian AtlasI always felt like is there surfing in heaven? Can you snowboarding? There's actually not snowboarding in Utah. I think I always You're more of a skier though. I feel like you're a skier.

SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's kind of an L, but I felt like snowboarding is just better. Sorry. If um if let's say um let's say nobody found their soulmate. I always had this weird like Twilight Zone theory that

SPEAKER_04like Here we go. Lauren, tell us the story. Yeah. Okay. So, I always had this weird Twilight Zone theory. If you can't find your soulmate in your life, whoever the hell you're buried next to, I'm not like saying like let's say you're buried alone, the closest person to you, that's

SPEAKER_04going to be like your like soulmate. Like I I had this weird idea, but that was just like, you know, an idea. I believe God has everyone for someone and stuff, but you know, it doesn't have to happen in this life. Yeah. Where's the

SPEAKER_04scripture for that? No, there's no scripture. I'm not doing a scriptural debate, but I will bring my father on and we can bring up scripture. Mine was just for my head. Wait, wasn't like Okay, I'm not going to linger on the

SPEAKER_04Mormon thing. Didn't y'all find a book like somewhere in Yes, it was the Dead Sea Scrolls. No, the golden plates. The golden plates. They were golden in the

SPEAKER_04forest. And there were plates. Yeah, they were paper plates. No, in golden um in golden just gold sheets. Oh, like a a Okay. A tablet. Yeah. And the one tablet

SPEAKER_04official translator who wasn't Joseph Smith said, "Oh, this is true." And then he realized what they were saying in the book and he's like, "Wait, no, it's not true. Take it back." Are there aliens in Mormonism? No. I thought there were like aliens. There's an alien religion.

SPEAKER_04Wait, what? Where are the golden plates now? They were removed by Moroni. There is an alien religion though and it there were it was um it was it was in Elcohone and and they had a spaceship and people would worship it. Have you been

SPEAKER_04abducted? I don't know. I think you Wait, have you been abducted? I haven't been abducted. Have you been probed? Did they probe you? I didn't get probed. But I will say this will be in your book. I have seen a Yeah, this will be in the

SPEAKER_04book. I had I had seen an I genuinely saw you. That's crazy. Really? when I got abducted by an alien when like he doesn't remember.

SPEAKER_04Yeah, it was like co time walking. You know, it's like social distancing or whatever. Did you float up in the in the light that like you know how they

Brian Atlasget beamed? No, I got beamed up. Dang. Yeah, that was crazy. Wow. Yeah, the aliens they spoke Spanish for some reason. I don't know why. I was like, whoa.

Brian AtlasYeah, it was weird. It was really weird. I don't speak Spanish, so I was like, can like biblote? I don't know. Anyways, okay, hold on. Let's get off the alien thing really quick. Yeah, they taught

Brian Atlasme. While they're probing me, they were t telling me about the bibliotech. Elondagas in LA bibliotech. Yes. I don't know what that means, but yes. Meatballs in the library. So, uh,

Brian Atlaswait, really quick. Anti-marriage. Uh, yeah. I can't actually you know what there's risks even to uh religious men. I understand the traditional justification though for getting married

Brian Atlasbecause there's a uh religious comp there's a compelling I don't know what the [ __ ] it's like uh under religion that's like what you got

SPEAKER_04kind of have to do you know commandment. Yeah. I mean, no. Honestly, I don't think that there's a super compelling non-religious reason to get married except for I mean, you are pro family kids, right? Yes. Yeah. But you can have

SPEAKER_04you can like stay with somebody forever and be married and have kids with them. But why would you not want a like actual commitment to them? Like a Oh, it is a commitment. Yeah, but like there that's

Abigail (Married)just don't you like why wouldn't you get married? Like why not? I remember an episode that Candace Owens came on here. Oh, and she was speaking facts about how

Ryderit just doesn't make sense outside of the religious. It really doesn't. Yeah. At all. Like the only thing that makes sense is like when you get hurt and they're like, "Oh, the only person that's like going to take care of you is

Brian Atlasyour husband." Cuz like they won't call your mom and dad, they call your husband. Yeah, like that's Well, I mean I mean your next next of kin which would be your parents can would have a medical authority in the case of what if you

Brian Atlasdon't have parents anymore at god forbid whatever age well whoever your next of kin would be would then have uh they they would be able to make medical decisions for you but you could do a I

Brian Atlasthink it's called a it's like a advanced healthcare directive so you can if I could have maline over there she could be my advanced healthcare directive And

Brian Atlasshe could if I got into a coma. I'd be a little scared. You know, she's like she's not going to she Yeah. She's not going to keep me on life support. She's going to be like, "Fuck this guy. Dang it. M he can, you know, I'll give him 3

Brian Atlashours of life support and then it's done for your be really nice." But uh I just I have even for religious men though because all the negatives that I could list to you which I won't just for the

Brian Atlassake of time all the negatives when it comes to divorce these would equally apply to Christian men. So but for secular I just don't see what

Brian Atlaswhat the point is. And then there's substantial risks even for Christian men to get married or at least the I shouldn't say I mean it's the bread winner forever whoever the bread winner

Brian Atlasis. Uh but even Yeah. What about a marriage not under the law but under the Lord? Well, I mean then you got to be careful. Certain states have common law

Brian Atlasmarriage and then and then um prenups get challenged. Okay. They get thrown out. They could be the uh you know I signed this under duress blah

Brian Atlasblah blah. It's they can be challenged. They are challenged. And uh look you know look just give me a compelling reason. I can I can go I can tell you why I think marriage is bad. Tell me why marriage is

Brian Atlasgood. So you can be with your person forever and your family. But hold on. I can be with my I can stay with somebody. I can meet somebody today uh and stay with them for the rest of my life. But not if you're not with them in the

Brian Atlastemple. You can be with them for the rest of your life. But in heaven I'm waiting for not you can file jointly on taxes. But that's great if you're a Mormon.

SPEAKER_04What if you're non Mormon? There's no secular argument to get behind marriage. Marriage is a religious sacrament. So for someone to get married when they're

SPEAKER_04not religious, there is there really is no point. I mean, you can have the same you can accomplish the same thing without marriage. Yeah. You can still have a wedding without being married. You can have all the same things that

SPEAKER_04you would have in a marriage without the actual marriage. Would you have a wedding but not get like officially married? Like a celebration of like being together? It sounds kind of I don't know. You don't have to do like

Ryderthe whole white dress everything but just like a big party. It would be so fun. Cry and it'll be great. I had a dress on Planned Parenthood cake at my wedding. It was great. That was great.

SPEAKER_04It was fantastic. I'll I'll take her like I I'll have like a Valentine's Day dinner with my girlfriend. That is not a wedding. That is not any a Valentine's Day dinner compared to Okay, but do you

SPEAKER_04think you're going to find a girl that genuinely just doesn't just wants to chill and never get married? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Do you think she'll be a woman that's pure? If that makes sense.

SPEAKER_04Pure. She's pure. No, like a virgin. Do you think you're going to meet a virgin who is They're secular virgins. Okay. Or do you think I'll just Do you think you'll find someone that aligns with your values? Non-denominational

SPEAKER_04Christian. But do you think you'll find someone that still aligns with your values even though they don't want to get married or do you think it'll be more difficult? What do you mean? Like their libs, like their libard, like their [ __ ] liib? Like they don't they

SPEAKER_04are fine without getting married, but they have opposite morals or viewpoints than you. Uh, no. No, I'm not wor I'm not too worried about it. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I

Brian Atlasmean, it's probably like more realistic that somebody who does want to get married could lean, but I mean, there's like feminist liberal women who want to get married, too. Well, that's true. Yeah. So, I mean, I was just curious if

SPEAKER_04like the feminist liberal if that would be a deal breakaker. Yeah. Feminist like I mean Yeah, sure. I mean, I wouldn't if they were like pleasant but

Brian Atlasstill liberal and but didn't want to get married, would you? Yeah. Would that be the mind virus? Yeah. I mean, I think well, one, I think people have been brainwashed and

Brian Atlaspropagandized. So, you there's some degree of like uh can you undo some of that stuff, but uh typically I don't think I don't think I want to do the work to like deprogram some like

Brian Atlaspink-haired feminist lady. So, that's fair. That's fair. Yeah. Not probably not my ideal. Um but yeah, I I don't know. I marriage. Have I heard I don't know if I've heard a compelling No, it's

SPEAKER_04fair. Guess you got to understand become a Christian. Or I could just I don't know. I want like seven kids and stuff, but Do you actually I might have to come. Really? I gave you

Brian AtlasLook, I I gave you the Bible verse, right? What is it? Psalms whatever. Uh 137. Psalms 127:4, you know? Yeah. I

Brian Atlaswant like I want three sons at least. So she pumps out seven daughters. Got to go three more. We keep going. We keep going until I get three sons. I need three sons. Okay. I used to want 20

SPEAKER_04kids. Been there. 20 kids. Yeah. I legit used to want 20 kids. Solid three is good. I need for 20 years. I know. I like did the math and I was like, "Wait a minute. I don't know this. I need

Brian Atlasthree sons." We can keep going after three, but as long as you get three sons, you're satisfied. I need three sons because you got you got to I I want

Brian Atlasto have the brother dynamic. But if one of them's a [ __ ] yes, which I'm going to make sure I'm going to do my best to make sure they're not a [ __ ] There's got to be a backup. But what if all of

Brian Atlasthem are [ __ ] that? You know what? That's a scary thought. Or what if they've got some like [ __ ] up, you know, some like I know exactly. No, I know what you're

SPEAKER_04talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Are you making a eugenics argument? No, I would I'm not saying I'm just saying like what

Brian Atlasif your kid is a little special, [ __ ] I would still love him. Mhm. But you might want if I could have a son

Brian Atlaswho you might think when you have it. What is that? Is that a bad I is that really a bad thought? like I'd rather not have it would probably be expensive. Isn't

SPEAKER_04that like terrible for the marriage? Also, like I've heard horror stories. Statistically, like for instance, families with Down syndrome, statistically families who have a child with Down syndrome are happier. Well, so

SPEAKER_04um wait, hold on. Families wait. Families with a like with a child with a with Down syndrome in any family people down syndrome, they tend to have a very positive outlook.

Brian Atlasare so nice. So, it's kind it's a little bit I don't know if that's like Well, if that's the case, then we shouldn't we like be breeding more? Shouldn't we be breeding towards that? No, because our our society I would actually date somebody with Down syndrome. You've

SPEAKER_04talked about this before? I would date I would I would date I don't know if I'd like stay with her forever, but just like as a novelty. No, like it's it's a serious like they really do. Like they're such happy people and it's so

SPEAKER_04sad. Like we've in like places like like Iceland, they've completed completely eradicated down syndrome by avoiding every single baby. I get I get it. But like if I have sons, they need to be able to go to war with me. Like why is

Brian Atlaswar your goal? No, what I'm saying is I'm not saying like I want to go to a war. When I say war, I'm using it in like in a artistic sense of like we need to be I

Brian Atlasneed to be able to go to war with my sons in like a uh what's the word? Live life fully together. What's the uh you want to be able to relate to them in that way and connect with them. What's the what's the term I'm masculine like

Brian Atlaskind of bond? No, no, no. But like I need to be able to go to war not literally but figuratively, right? Yeah. Yeah. I just think it's different when you do have a child. Although to be fair, Down syndrome, they're pretty

Brian Atlasstrong physically. So, I think that they have that. She knows what I'm talking about. Yeah. Have you seen The Peanut Butter Falcon? Oh, yeah. I've seen that. Yeah. Good movie. You know what? I might

SPEAKER_04be convinced. You know what? Fine. I won't be that upset if I knew I knew like two families that had Guys, it's jokes at the end of the show. It's just jokes. Well, I knew a family that had two a kid with Down syndrome

SPEAKER_04and then one adopted one with Down and and they were doing just fine. They were actually Mormon. One of them couples was Mormon. Um, but yeah, I mean they it was cool and the kid went to our school and

SPEAKER_04but is that a bad thing to say? Like I hope my kids aren't like is that normal? No, I don't think that's a you would be concerned about their future in a sense. You're like oh my goodness. Like I think if as if I had a

SPEAKER_04child if I bore a child and for some reason and there and they did have Down syndrome, I would be concerned like oh my goodness, what's going to happen if I'm not here anymore? Who's going to take care of them? Do I have to get them a nursing home set up? I'm I'm I are

SPEAKER_04they going to treat them right at this nursing home? That would be my concerns for the quality of life. Quality of life. Like quality of life. And then and it's like I would still love them, but I would want the best care. And also if I couldn't take care of them the way that

SPEAKER_04they needed to. I would need to get them a nursing home. I wouldn't want to abandon them. I would have to get them a nursing home that they could be treated and then I could go visit because I can't what if they had a diaper or something and I couldn't you pick them

Brian Atlasup or something? Who knows? And damn. Yeah. Big big thoughts about Uh, just to move things along here, you said the artificial womb thing. We'll touch on it for one or two minutes. It's just

SPEAKER_04dehumanizing motherhood. I just think it's dehumanizing to motherhood. Actually, I have a question about artificial wombs for the two pro-choicers. Artificial wombs dismantle

SPEAKER_04the my body, my choice argument, right? If we could successfully create artificial wombs and just take the baby out and put it in the womb instead, would you be supportive of that in abortion? I'm going to be so honest. My

Ryderbrain is kind of clocking out because I'm getting a little sleepy. But I do think our feelies facial wombs are a little crazy, but I think science like that is all

Brian Atlascrazy. All I think all science like that is crazy. Like I science. I love that thing. Um so here I'll have a little back and forth with you really quick on the artificial womb thing. So I mean

Brian Atlaslook, my position isn't we make a mass transfer all women who are pregnant. all women despite them wanting to complete a pregnancy we use an artificial womb. I'm

Brian Atlassaying this would my argument for the artificial womb has always been this would be a compromise between pro-choice pro-life. So okay uh you can save the life but the woman can end the

Brian Atlaspregnancy. I so you transfer it to the artificial womb. I know it's not ide probably not the ideal for both sides, but it would be the it would be the compromise and it would honestly put this whole thing to rest. I do think it's better than abortion, but also I

SPEAKER_04don't think it holds women accountable and they're not able to bond with that child because a lot of women might be like, "Oh, I'm going to get an abortion." And then they get pregnant and they grow the child and they're like, "Holy crap, I'm going to be a mother." Right. No. Yeah. But I mean

SPEAKER_04women also Are you Are you against adoption? I have two adopted sisters now. Yeah. But but so wouldn't that same argument apply to adoption? Right. But like adoption is is a last resort. But

SPEAKER_04like with artificial wombs, like when a woman is pregnant, there's an exchange of cells between her and the baby. And that's very important. I mean, the baby does bond, like you said, with the mother during pregnancy. That's optimal for them so that when they're born,

SPEAKER_04they're able to have that really beneficial experience and that bonding. So, I think it's really I I mean, I'd like to see more studies into it. And I do think the artificial womb thing does dismantle the pro-choice argument to an

SPEAKER_04extent. there are approach racers that don't care, think that you should be able to kill even though it's a human for other reasons. Um, like Destiny's argument. But no, I I think it is a interesting thing that I like to bring

Brian Atlasup because it I mean, how about how about this? assuming that it would in terms of its health, its mental health and its uh bodily health if the

Brian Atlasartificial womb was able to meet the like the exact same uh health standards as a natural pregnancy or whatever. Uh what what are the objections there? I

Brian Atlasguess I don't particularly have any objections other than the fact that it could go really wrong. Oh, sure. Yeah. there's like dystopian like really crazy things where they're like humans are being grown in like labs and stuff and

Brian Atlaswomen aren't needed anymore and we're just going to you know yeah those are those are concerns but I think like if you're looking at it in a vacuum like it is an interesting potential solution to the

SPEAKER_04uh would you would you support ending abortion if artificial wombs were a thing? Um, well, I I think if artificial wombs were a thing, that would be great. But, um, I mean, the person who got pregnant would still be in a different

SPEAKER_04body than the artificial womb, unless they could transfer over that baby to the artificial womb. That's what That's what the argument is. Oh, wait, wait, wait. So, so I never heard about that. So, they can transfer? Not yet, but they're working on it. I mean, I would

SPEAKER_04say, yeah, I I think I think if the woman wants to do that, if there's no would there be would there be like health um like like like could you be like, "Oh my gosh, well, there's like

SPEAKER_04the surgery and you could possibly die like in it. If they couldn't if there was like zero chance, I would I would question the person in a sense where I'm like, "Oh, like huh, like you couldn't transfer the baby to the artificial womb

SPEAKER_04when when there was no health risks at all?" Like I would be curious of why they would terminate it. That that's what some I'd be concerned about that and I'd be like why why would you do that if if there's no risk to you? But you would still think it should be legal

Brian Atlasto abort the baby when there's an alternative to just put them in an artificial womb. Oh, sorry. Um I I do have I do apologize just for the sake of time. I know it's getting late. I do have to move things on just to get this wrapped up here pretty soon. I'm going

SPEAKER_09to let these chats come through. Liberty donated $29.99. Yo, thank you man. Chariot is based. Love seeing her on. Thank you, man. She's definitely beautiful, modest,

SPEAKER_09self-aware, combats feminists. She's probably one of the exceptions. Also wise with her words forever on the internet. You want a quick response? I I

SPEAKER_09really appreciate that. Thank you. All right, we have Lulu here. Lulu donated $30. Brian, what do you think of South Korean plastic surgery? Sure. Looks natural and people who do it look

Brian Atlasundeniably prettier. Yeah, that's actually a good point because uh I've seen some, you know, I think maybe surgery 10 years ago, 20 years ago wasn't as advanced or as good. So, I've

Brian Atlasdefinitely seen videos of these transformations and it depends what they do, but some of these uh plastic surgeries are re actually now very convincing and they don't actually many

Brian Atlastimes they don't really look like they've had plastic surgery. Um they're very good. Um, so I suppose in terms of

Brian Atlasaesthetically if if I've can't if it doesn't look bad then uh sure you can make an aesthetic argument that they look better. And I think this is the

Brian Atlascase for uh like nose jobs. Um I've defin you know I got big nose [ __ ] I gota I gotta get me one of

Brian Atlasthose. Um, but I've like nose job, what's interesting about that is that for nose jobs for I mean there's can be botched nose jobs, but a nose job

Brian Atlastypically it'll match what could have been or what another nose looks like. So to me that tends to have quite a big impact and it's actually remarkable what some what

Brian Atlaseven just like a nose job can do. But um what do I think about it? I mean, I'm still kind of the there's like a deception component because it's like, okay, if you're going to have kids with them and they're actually not that's not what

Brian Atlasthey look like. And then there's still like there's still the vanity component. Uh so like aesthetically, yes, they could be more physically attractive, but there's still okay, the vanity component. Uh do they have body

Brian Atlasdysmorphia? That typically gets tied into like some other mental illnesses. That's going to be an issue. there's a financial issue of like, okay, are they gonna look to me as the provider to like

Brian Atlaspay for their future plastic surgeries, their revisions, their, you know, when they're 40, 50, whatever, they want me to pay for that [ __ ] Do I want to pay for it? Probably not. Um, so those are

Brian Atlassome components. Uh, not really super in favor of plastic surgery, but uh, yeah, some of that stuff's super convincing. Selena Gour donated $30. I'm a man and I

SPEAKER_09don't personally know any other men who prefer makeup or plastic surgery over a woman's natural look. Yep. I think most of us are on team Brixen. #natural body supremacist. Natural I'm a natural body

Brian Atlassupremacist. Um, thank you. Appreciate it. Speaking of which, uh, big labia matter. Okay. All right. Uh, we have this one from Justin. Justin Martins donated $30 burrito. Can't think of a

Brian Atlasgood roast, so I'll just say burrito. So, it's stuck in your head now as per usual. Good day, Brian. Yo, Justin, thank you so much, man. Really appreciate it. Uh, one of the last things we do before the end of the show,

Ryderwe have everybody take off their makeup. Oh my god. Oh, perfect. This is actually going to save my life right now cuz I'm so tired. M Dog. Oh my gosh. I'll take off my Wait, can I get like a Can I get

Brian Atlaslike a compact mirror to make sure that none of this goes in? Just look at yourself here. No, right here. Look in the Look in the thing. Uh, all right. Uh, while we're doing that, uh, do you guys think going around the table, do you think men who care about body count

Ryderare insecure? Um, not insecure into the mic. Not insecure, but I mean, I I don't even ask that question anymore. Go ahead. No, I don't think they are. Sorry, ask the question again. Uh, do you men who care

Natalie (Seattle)about body count, are they insecure? Uh, it depends. Okay. Oh. Um, no. No. You going to take off the makeup?

SPEAKER_04I think it's kind of stupid. But why why is it stupid? I just think the premise of it is stupid. I love myself without makeup, too. But yeah. So Oh, then no problem,

SPEAKER_04right? Do it. I have no eyebrows. I have to film videos after that. After this. That's Oh, you're filming something after this. I have a I have to leave early in the morning for a tour stop and I don't want to redo my makeup after this. True. I have no eyebrows. So Well,

Brian AtlasMaline, you don't have a tour stop. So, do you want to do it or No, I'm good. She's good. All right. B, submissive housewife. Um, wait. So, okay. Uh, let's see here. Oh, body count. Are men

Brian Atlasinsecure if they care about a woman's body count? No, absolutely not. Okay. Nope. Sweet. Uh, going around the table, what's your body count? Starting with

SPEAKER_04Lauren. Uh, thousand and like probably like 300 or something like Bonnie Blue and like Lily Phillips and I'm in the the thousands club.

Brian Atlasabout that much. Okay. Uh, that's cool. Uh, body count, I'm at four. I'm at four. Four. Four.

RyderYeah. Because casual sex doesn't benefit women. So, I period. It's just my opin personal opinion. I mean, I don't hate on You're a [ __ ] liar. You're a

Brian Atlas[ __ ] liar. Four. I believe it. Okay. Sure. Sure. Fine. I believe it. three. Okay. One, zero.

Brian AtlasUh, it's a single digit. You want to do a range like five to five to nine. Okay. Zero one.

RyderCool. Oh, wait. Hold on. Multiply it by three and that's the real number. Whatever you guys That's four. Yeah. And the two I was I would dated.

SPEAKER_04Wait, question for M. Dog. M Dog, are you uh are you waiting until marriage for your next guy or Yeah. I I was an atheist for a portion of my life. I Oh,

SPEAKER_04I see. Yeah. But now I see I really see the value in that and God has definitely like redeemed my past and I'm grateful for the things that I believe in now and

Brian Atlasthe faith that I hold. I see. Go. Okay. All right. Yeah. Uh, that felt so good. Honestly, it did. Wait, can you hold up the makeup wipe to the Oh, yeah. See,

Brian Atlasit's only eyeliner. I do not wear foundation because I believe that your skin is just your skin. Like pimple. Who cares? All right. Sweet. Okay. Uh,

Brian Atlassweet. We did that. Uh, did the makeup rock and roll. There's just like two or three things on here that we're going to do, then we're going to wrap. Uh, what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband? Actually, I don't even know if there's any

Brian Atlasinteresting answers here. You know what? I'm going to skip that one because there's nothing interesting. I don't even think the height one there's no interesting things. Uh, we'll do the bear, though. Would you cross paths with

Brian Atlasa rand would you rather, excuse me, cross paths with with a random man or a random bear? Well, the question said that it was on a hike and on a hike, excuse me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

Ryderhonestly, uh, the forest holds like the most unsolved mysteries of the murders just because it's so big and anything could happen. And not to be like, yeah, Gabby Patito, but like there's just

Rydercertain men that are out there that are a little evil. And I'm not saying all men are evil, but there are certain men that just have weird, you know, and I hate to say it, but a bear. What about

Brian Atlasyou? Um, absolutely a bear. Wait, I sorry. I do not want to run into a bear. I've already Okay, so you pick you'd rather run into a man. Yes. Okay,

SPEAKER_04Lydia. Yeah, I'd run into rather run into a man. Man, for sure. I'd rather run into a a bear, but if it was between a bull and a man, I would pick a I'd

SPEAKER_04pick a man because I'm scared of bulls because bulls will will I've seen some scary videos. Okay. I've taken a nap with a bull, not going to lie. Best sleep of my life.

SPEAKER_04Um what was the question again? Man or bear. Um, so I I choose So last time I chose bear. Um, and I actually have a little bit of a story. Uh, I was riding

SPEAKER_04around on campus on my electric scooter and I actually saw a wild raccoon and got very frightened. So, I changed my man to I changed my answer to man

SPEAKER_04because I think I would be much more terrified being around a wild bear. Okay. What about you? Um, I've tried to pet a bear. My sister had to lock me in the car. Um, autism. Woo. Uh, but I

Brian Atlaswould choose bear. But if it was a group of men, I would choose men simply because a bear cannot hurt me in the same way a man can. I see. And then the chat's

Brian Atlasgoing to Okay, Abigail, your answer. Man, 100%. You wrote a bear. What? You were a bear. Would you rather? Then I made the same mistake she is. I'd rather run into a man. Okay. All right. All

Brian Atlasright. Uh, so wait, let's see. Well, that's a good point because I don't know this whole like, oh, they'd rather come across a bear over a man. I don't know. I've like Have y'all seen a spider? It was a wild freak out over a spider.

SPEAKER_04Okay, so I watched Faces of Death because like my Well, my mom was in the police department and they had to watch this movie called Faces of Death. My mom had us watch it, me and my sister, and the bear just whacked the guy's head off and it was real. But the thing is is it was so quick and pain like like it was

Brian Atlasprobably painful, but it was just so quick that, you know, if a if a bear got me, that would probably happen. Wait, can you repeat the following me? It was called Faces of Death. No, no. Uh, repeat repeat this. This one time at

SPEAKER_04Band Camp. This one time we watched No, no, no. Say like you're enthus This one time at Band Camp. This one time we watched this movie. Oh, no. Don't. Oh, at Band Camp.

Brian AtlasOkay. This one time. This one time at Band Camp. Band Camp. We watched this movie. American Pie. American Pie. Yeah. Uh, all right. Wait. So, going to you, uh, let's see here, Caitlyn. You said

SPEAKER_04bear. Why? Um I asked my dad this because I honestly could not choose. Um simply because a man can hurt me in the exact um in a um man can hurt me worse than a bear can in a sure. No, like what

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