Anti-Male Red Hair Feminist DESTROYED In HEATED Debate?! Tea App/UBER Reaction! | Dating Talk #253

Date: 2025-07-28

Duration: 8h 35m

Guests

Brian Atlas

BBailey (Nursing)>

IIsabella (Bio)>

JJackie (OF Manager)>

EEmily (Coach)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Asia(guest)

SPEAKER_03Poss(guest)

SPEAKER_04Key(guest)

SPEAKER_05Bailey (Nursing)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Nyx(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_12Isabella (Bio)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Jackie (OF Manager)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Emily (Coach)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 8 guests introduce themselves

Key MomentNyx reveals first relationship was coercive/sexually non-consensual

ControversyBrian argues Uber women-only feature is discriminatory, analogizes to racial segregation

Key MomentTea app hacked exposing 70K women. Brian announces 'Tally' counter-app.

Key MomentKey: held captive 4-5 hours by abuser. SWAT called. He got 3 months.

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Bailey, Isabella, Jackie, Asia, Nyx, Emily, Key, Poss.

Nyx First Relationship SA

Coercive relationship: car rides as leverage, dissociation, non-consensual encounters.

Uber Women-Only Feature Debate

Brian argues it is discriminatory. Analogizes to racial segregation.

Tea App Data Breach

70K women exposed. Brian announces counter-app Tally.

Body Count Round

Poss 50-70. Key 6. Asia ~10. Jackie 15-20.

Key DV Story

Held captive 4-5 hours. SWAT called. Abuser got 3 months.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasmultiple times because you've been on the show multiple times. >> It's uh Wait, hold on. >> Okay, here. I'll just throw some stuff

Brian Atlasout then. Um, if I recall, I believe uh is it is it over 100?

Brian Atlas>> I don't think I said over 100. >> No, but I'm Is it though? >> Oh, no. >> Okay. But I believe if I recall it's

SPEAKER_08between 70 and 100. Do I have that? Is that right? Do I have it? Pause. Come on, pause. Be a good sport. What the [ __ ]

Brian Atlas>> Uh, and then wait. >> Uh, what was the Can you tell us this? How about this body count by the end of high

Possschool? >> Oh, um, no. I have no idea. I haven't I didn't really do my hoof phase until really after high school. >> Oh, after high school. Okay. Yeah.

Brian AtlasOkay. All right. Uh maybe we'll come back to that. What about you? >> Six. >> Well, I thought you said you've lost track or forgot >> me. >> Yeah, you. >> No, I've never lost track. >> Oh, I thought Didn't she say you don't know? Okay, whatever. Uh Emily,

Emily (Coach)>> I don't discuss it publicly, but I'm currently celibate. >> For how long? >> Brian, >> what? That's fair. >> I just said this guy. So,

Asia>> three. >> Three. Okay. What about you? >> 10ish. I don't I don't I've never sat there and wrote a list. >> Oh, can you scoot your mic that way a little bit? What about you?

Jackie (OF Manager)>> Um, same boat as her. I would guess like between like 15 or 20. >> She said 10ish. >> Well, I mean, I just I'm saying No, I'm saying like I don't have notes like of

Brian Atlasall the people. >> Okay. What about you? >> Two. >> Two. >> Uh, >> be honest, guys. >> Can I pass >> into the mic? Nope. >> I can't.

Brian Atlas>> Go ahead. Say it. >> I also don't keep track, but I would say around 20. >> Multiply it by three and that's the real number >> for all of you. Damn. Pause. What the [ __ ] Pause. You're supposed to be the homie. Be like, boom. Here's my body

Brian Atlascount. Okay, >> that was my answer. >> All right, you know what? Here's what I'm going to do since you won't tell us. Uh, she's been on the show before, guys. Can somebody in the chat

Brian Atlas>> go look? Go look uh find what episode and then you guys will find the body count. If anybody in my discord

Poss50 somebody base the war 50 plus Jess 50 to 70. >> Okay. >> It should be like the title as part of it if they're looking.

Brian Atlas>> Oh you titled it. >> Oh [ __ ] Poss coming in with the assist. All right, whatever. It's I don't know. It's 50 to 70. Whatever. Okay, that's cool. Congrats, guys. Uh you are also amazing.

Brian AtlasCongratulations on that. Okay. Uh we need to get into the pre-show notes. You're single as [ __ ] >> Mhm. >> As you wrote. Uh you have a septum piercing. >> Not anymore. >> Oh, you got rid of it. Okay. Uh you have a shirt that says [ __ ] power.

Brian Atlas>> What's the [ __ ] power? What is the power? What's Do you believe in the power of the [ __ ] >> Yeah, it's pretty powerful. >> Do the women here believe in the power of the [ __ ] Yeah. >> How could you not? >> [ __ ] power. >> Yeah. >> Power the [ __ ]

Poss>> I learned that like vaginas are shaped in different ways and there is such thing as a loose [ __ ] So I don't know about [ __ ] power. >> Oh my. >> Are you by?

Poss>> No. No. Okay. >> But um I have a lot of guy friends just very open about their sex lives with me. So yeah. But, you know, like I don't know if you've ever >> going to put this >> experienced or obviously you haven't,

Possbut um yeah, there's been like things I've heard from my guy friendss are like, "Yes, one woman's [ __ ] feels so much more tight and better than another because it's like I guess like more loose, whatever." But it's really just

Keythe way it is shaped cuz all vaginas are shaped differently. >> I don't think [ __ ] power has to do with the shape of the vagina. So, >> I think I'm just taking it a little too literally. >> Yeah.

Jackie (OF Manager)>> Okay. Okay. >> I think [ __ ] power has to do with that women has power over men. >> Okay. Okay. Never mind. >> Over men. >> I think it's like empowering like an empowering like empowering statement >> cuz honestly we could get anything we

Brian Atlaswant. >> Uh you also have a shirt that says uh eating [ __ ] cures depression. >> It's a joke, but I do think it's true for me being bisexual. So >> I um

Brian Atlas>> do you agree? >> Are you a Are you a >> I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know cuz >> cuz you're a virgin, right? >> So I've done that act >> a few times. >> He's not a

Brian Atlas>> The last time. Last time. >> I think it was 2007. >> 2007. >> Like when I was born. >> I'm 36. Was that the last time you >> The last the last? Yeah, the last time I Yeah, it was the Bush administration.

Brian AtlasBush your >> junior year in high school. >> Uh, no. I think I was like just graduated high school. So, I was 18, 19,

Brian Atlassomething like that. Or was it 2008? 2007, 2008. Bush was president. That's all I remember. Obama though. Obama came in. Boom. Still not eating [ __ ] though. >> Is this a fantasy?

Brian Atlas>> The [ __ ] >> Chill, bro. Um, yeah. Look, let me say this. You know, like I said earlier, the girl needs to come first if possible multiple times. So, it's that's just

Brian Atlassomething that not really a fan of. Doesn't have to do anything with the [ __ ] Not grossed out by [ __ ] Big fan of [ __ ] Big labia matter. >> I do.

Brian Atlas>> Hash pull it up, Nick. Pull it up, Nick. >> There it is. Big labia matter. Boom. I only date women with ginormous labas. Do you do you check on the first date?

Nyx>> Awkward, huh? >> Do I check? >> Yeah. Is that Is that part of your checklist? >> Yeah, I have I have stirrups. >> Do my laundry and show me your >> stirups.

Brian Atlas>> Is she also naked on a football field with the guys? >> What the >> No, remember you were like, "Oh, they're [ __ ] on the football field. Dick's out. >> Dick's out for her on the No. Okay. Um,

Jackie (OF Manager)anyways, uh, one time you were on a date >> and you said you can't use chopsticks no matter how hard you try >> and he said like you have autism. >> Yep. >> I was like, "Something doesn't click. I

Jackie (OF Manager)can't use chopsticks." And he was like, "So, you have like autism." I was like, >> "Oh, >> can you tell us about the pocket guy?" >> Yeah. um >> close a little closer to the

Jackie (OF Manager)>> when I was younger, you know, I hooked up with a guy and he was like, "Where should I come?" And I was like, "I mean, you could just come on me." And then he was like, "No." And he came in his hand

Jackie (OF Manager)and he put it in his pocket. >> I don't know why. >> Why didn't he like wipe it on? >> Excuse me. >> No idea. That's got to be a disgusting.

Jackie (OF Manager)>> No idea. Never talked to him again. So >> the [ __ ] Yeah, he's watching this. It's going to be a little weird, too. But >> he put it in his pocket. >> Yeah, his front pocket. I don't even know why he was still wearing his jeans, but

Bailey (Nursing)>> yikes. >> Long time ago. >> Oh, you were um you were fating him. Fellatio. You were sing the D. >> No. >> Oh, it was sex. You're having sex. >> Yeah, we're having sex.

Brian Atlas>> He took pocket [ __ ] to the next level. >> No, literally. >> Good one. Good one. Uh, you wanted to talk about astrology situationships, crashing out, exes, threesomes, blah blah blah.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Astrology. Okay, that's [ __ ] Next. >> Okay. >> Crashing out. Have you crashed out? >> Many a times >> in a Yeah. What's that look like? Reenact that [ __ ] You guys ready?

Jackie (OF Manager)Reenact that [ __ ] Go ahead. >> I mean, just blowing them up like wise. >> Yeah. >> Like, >> oh, you this is crashing out. >> I don't know. >> Oh, show us. So, show us your furious text.

Brian Atlas>> I mean, I'm not going to like >> No, show it. Show us how how you furiously text. Is Mary back, by the way, or Oh, okay. >> Like, normally I just call them, honestly, and leave crazy voicemails. So, >> okay, that's cool. Um, not

Brian Atlas>> that cool. >> Dope. I love that for you. >> I hate that for me. >> Uh, so crashing out. Okay. Have you ever slashed a dude's tires?

Jackie (OF Manager)>> No. >> Have you ever gotten revenge in any way? I mean, I've just like gone to their house, but I didn't do anything crazy when I did it.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, cool. All right. Um, other notes here. I need to step away for a moment. Do you get who here like remembers in detail the pre-show notes they sent me? Anybody? Like >> I think so. >> Okay. You want to just hop into your

Nyxpre-show notes and >> Oh, >> just while I'm gone. >> Um, so this was my second relationship. Um, he stole my car and then cheated on me the

Nyxnext day. >> Um, let me elaborate. Um, so I I drive a Tesla, so the key is on my phone. So he took my phone and then he goes to my car. I call him from my uh someone

Nyxelse's phone. I call my phone from someone else's phone. And I'm like, "Hey, what's up? Where you at? Can you can you come back?" And he's like, "I'm just sitting in your car right now." And I'm like, "Okay, come back." And then he's like, "I'll I'll try." And then he

Nyxnever tried. And then I had to walk around looking for my car. It was like 10:00 at night. It was like a bad part of town. I didn't have my phone. I left my wallet in the car. I had nothing. And

Nyxeventually I found him. Oh, I like blew up my phone with the other person's phone and he still wasn't responding. So, I'm walking around. I'm [ __ ] crying cuz I'm like, "Bro, what do I do? What do I do? Where's my car?" Um, so I

Nyxfind him. I get in the car. I'm like, "What the [ __ ] is wrong with you?" I was like yelling at him for like 30 minutes straight. I'm like that you were you completely disregarded my safety. What if something happened to me? How were you planning on [ __ ] getting back to me? Like I don't know. And then he was

Nyxsitting there. He was trying to act all normal about it. He's like, "Why are you yelling right now? Be so for real. I'm yelling cuz you [ __ ] stole my car and left me in a bad part of town at 10:00 at night." Um

Nyxand he was just saying like, "No, no, I was just sitting in your car. Like I didn't do anything, but I noticed that the charge on my car was like suspiciously low. So, I checked my phone's location and it showed that he

Nyxhad gone to [ __ ] In-N-Out while I was like crying over where my car is and I called him up and I was like, "Hey, why the [ __ ] did you lie? Like, I know you went to In-N-Out with my car, fat ass."

NyxAnd then he was like, "I'm sorry. I don't know why I lied." And then the next day he calls me moping and [ __ ] and he's like, "I'm so sorry. I didn't know I don't know why I did that to you. Like, that was that was so bad. I'm so sorry." And I'm like, "Bro, I'm mad at

Nyxyou right now. Don't talk to me." And then I think he tried to kill himself or at least he was like pretending to cuz um his dad called me and was like, "Hey, have you heard from him?" And I was like, "No, he spoke to me this morning,

Nyxbut I haven't said anything." And then um yeah, apparently his phone was completely shut off. He wasn't responding to anyone. They had to send in a neighbor to go check on him to make sure he wasn't dead. And allegedly he wasn't. Like nothing was wrong with him.

NyxHe was like, "Oh, I was just taking a nap." I don't believe it. Because the next day I saw him, he had like cuts on him. Um, and then yeah, and then he went to a party that day, like the day after

Nyxthat he stole my car. And then I learned from my friends that were there later. He was like, "Bro, I'm just trying to [ __ ] I'm trying to get laid." And then they were like, "Hey, what about Nyx?" And then he's like, "Fuck Nick. What

Nyxabout her?" We were still basically together. Um, and yeah, I asked him the day after. I was like, "Did you cheat on me at that party?" And he's like, "No, I would never. I was thinking of you the whole time."

PossSo, questions, comments, concerns, >> fun times. >> Fun times. Very fun. >> No, it sounds horrible. >> Yeah. >> I don't know. It's >> straight up. What? >> Sounds traumatic. >> He like took your car, went to In and

NyxOut in a party, and just what? >> Well, the party was the next day. >> Okay. Did he still have your car the next day? >> No, I got the car back. Like when I found him, I yelled at him in the car. I drove him home and then I drove back to my house. >> You should have drove him home.

Nyx>> I know. I should have left his ass. I should have kicked him out. Yeah, exactly. Figure out your own ride. You have your phone. Um, but yeah, he like I was supposed to go to that party with him and then he specifically told me not to go and then I was like, "Oh, okay."

Nyx>> Did you leave him after that? >> No, it went on for like another month. >> Stand on business, please. >> I'm It's not clocking to you that I'm standing on business, bro. >> Yeah.

Nyx>> Too easy to take Teslas. >> Well, okay. He literally stole my phone, though. Like that's not >> Yeah, I stole your phone to steal your car. >> Yeah,

Nyx>> I guess that's true. If he's got my >> No phone, no car is kind of crazy, >> huh? >> Leaving you with like no phone and no car is pretty crazy. >> Exactly. >> Double whammy. >> Yeah, cuz I was like I was like, "Okay, if you were just sitting in my car, how

Nyxwere you planning on getting in contact with me to like pick me up?" You know, >> calling the cops, >> dude. My mom almost called the cops on him after I got home cuz I was like sobbing, crying, and she's like, "What happened? What happened?" And then at this point, like anytime I came home

Asiacrying, she knew it was about him. So she was like, "Did that [ __ ] do something?" And I was like, "So he stole my car." And she's like, "He did [ __ ] what?" It was bad. And then he was >> chasing after him. I would have just called the cops and been like, "Yo,

Nyxlook, listen. My car is missing. My phone's in it." >> Yeah. I mean, who what phone would I call the police on? >> The same phone you were calling your phone on. >> No, I had to leave. Okay. Cuz it happened like while I was at like work

Nyxbasically. So, I was using my co-orker's phone, but then I had to leave cuz, you know, the shift was over. Then, I was just like walking around and then I ended up having to like there was this woman with her kid and then I was like, "Hey, I'm so sorry to bother you. Can I please borrow your phone really, really

Nyxquick?" And that's how I ended up finding him cuz I called him. I was like, "Where you at?" And he's like, "Oh, I'm just chilling in the parking lot." And I was like, "Cool. Okay, I'll come find you." >> Yeah.

Bailey (Nursing)>> I got my car stolen once. >> Was it Was it bad? Did he cheat on you, too? >> No, it wasn't a man. And it was >> Oh, did she cheat on you? >> Oh, no. Wasn't >> Did she [ __ ] your >> It was No, I found it in like a really bad part of town on the side of the road. Well, the cops found it for me.

Bailey (Nursing)And >> was it like gutted or was like straws in it? Like >> straws? >> Did you like get the car back? Like, did you take it back? >> Back. The cops found it like 24 hours later, but like I was crashing out all

Bailey (Nursing)day, like calling all the tow companies cuz I was like, am I just stupid? >> Yeah. >> Did I misplace my car somehow? And then Yeah. They were like, "It's probably stolen." And somehow I got it back 24 hours later. But yeah, it smelled honestly

Bailey (Nursing)lucky. >> Yeah, it smelt terrible and Yeah. But it was like everything was in there. Oh my god. >> Yeah. >> I mean, it's it's [ __ ] up right now because of a man.

Bailey (Nursing)>> That'll do it. That'll do it, man. >> Yeah. >> I'm joking. >> Y'all are walling. I would never let a man take my car. >> No, this one didn't take my car. He punched my windshield out >> or not punched it out. So, my windshield's completely cracked right now. He was like crashing out in the

Bailey (Nursing)car, >> punched my windshield, shattered it, and then punched my stereo, shattered my stereo, and broke. >> Why was he going him? >> You know, >> did you press charges? >> What?

Bailey (Nursing)>> Did you press charges? >> No, I did like call. So, he took like an unconentual video of me and had like revenge porn on me basically. >> [ __ ] >> I'm definitely pressing charges. What?

Bailey (Nursing)Oh, I was like scared though cuz I didn't want like that to get released to anyone. So >> Oh, like blackmail. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, that's the worst. Like >> Oh, of you. That's >> He had a He took a video of me without me knowing >> and

Bailey (Nursing)>> Oh, wait. That's [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Punched my car out and then was trying to use that against me cuz I was like, I'm going to go to the cops and then he was already on probation. So, he would have went to jail if I did go to the cops. >> How would he release a video? You should

Bailey (Nursing)go first. >> I know. Automatic. Oh, I was scared. He's scary. He valid out. I'm good. >> Yeah, that's a crime for sure. >> You're correct.

Brian Atlas>> Mary, could you get me a room temper? Um, all right. Going to just blast through these notes cuz we're already Damn. RIP. We spent too much time talking about >> war.

Brian Atlas>> We talked about last night. >> Talking about [ __ ] dick slinging, bro. >> [ __ ] football transgender [ __ ] Crazy, man. Crazy. All right. Uh, Keely. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, we already talked about the alimony thing or whatever. He left you for his best friend. >> His best friend's ex. >> Oh. >> Oh, best friend's ex. My bad. Um,

Brian Atlas>> obviously you had to buy him out from a house that you guys had together. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Um, but it sounds like legally he was entitled to because you guys bought the

Keyhouse together, right? >> Yeah, legally he was entitled to half of it. Um, but once you cheat on me, I think that you uh say that you walk away from your half of it.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Uh, you said that you're a survivor of DV. Your abuser had to be taken out by SWAT. >> Yes. >> In 2020, he was holding you captive in your house. >> Yep. for hours.

Brian Atlas>> Yep. >> Uh I mean, we don't have to get super detailed if you don't want to, but >> um >> it took him a year to get charged. He did it to another female. >> Oh, taken. I thought he got >> He got merked.

Brian Atlas>> No. Oh, no. >> Cuz you said taken out by SWAT. I think that means mercked. >> Sorry. >> I wish taken out of the house. >> Yeah, he was. Yeah. Negotiated. >> Would you guys assume if somebody says taken out by SWAT that

Brian Atlas>> No, I knew what she meant. They just got, "Oh, we're going to escort you out of the house." Like, nah, that guy got merckked. Okay, but so, uh, so SWAT had to come barricade. Were you barricaded in the house?

Key>> Yeah, he barricaded me in. >> He held me captive for >> What a damn. >> That is >> four or five hours. I think I had to text 911 to come get me out. Yeah. >> Damn. Sorry to hear that. That's [ __ ]

Keyup. >> He did it to another girl less than a year later. >> Even worse. beat her whole orbital soccer in um and she stayed with him. >> She's a psychopath. How is he out free?

Key>> Yikes. >> Um I don't know. He actually only did three months for what he did to me. Um but you know, honestly, it was the cops

Brian Atlasthat wrote in the police a paperwork that got him away from what he got. >> Okay. You said that you uh have had friends with benefits.

Brian AtlasIs that it? Yeah. >> Okay. Um, nothing really there then. >> No. >> Uh, >> I mean I'm 35. >> You said you're very old school conservative. >> Yeah.

Key>> But you also very liberal stances. Uh, what are those? Just super quickly. >> Oh, liberal stances. Um, I mean, I'm conservative in the fact that I still

Keybelieve that marriage and kids and that fact and maybe not the hookup culture because I I mean I started dating when online dating kind of was kind of a

Keything in the beginning. >> Um, I mean I did meet my current uh spouse on Facebook dating so I mean it still went but >> the liberal >> So are politically though are you

Keyliberal or are you conservative? >> I'm I'm Republican. So what are your very liberal stances though? >> Abortion I think should be allowed

Key>> in for circumstances. >> Um [ __ ] I don't know. My brain just went through the door. >> Okay.

Key>> Uh yeah, I just I honestly I think that um a a woman should have her stance in a house, but I also think that in today's world, you have to work outside of the

Brian Atlashouse. I can't financially take care of myself. I mean, >> sure. >> So, >> uh, really quick with going back to Nyx's your notes. Um, you already told this while I was gone, but one time,

Brian Atlashere's the short version of the story you told. One time your ex stole your car, tried to make you feel bad about it, threat into unal alive himself, and then he cheated on you the next day. >> Mhm.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Good times. Uh, you said you have some you have some thoughts on men's tendencies to be controlling, toxic, or generally uncaring in relationships. Uh, what are those?

Nyx>> Yeah. I just think that like I see it a lot in relationships where like men try to take the lead, but then they end up just being like straight controlling. Like I don't know. I just Yeah, I think

Nyxmen have a tendency to >> What's an example of controlling? Um, I guess like not the very famous one like controlling what she tries to wear.

Nyx>> Okay. >> I I just think like you shouldn't have that much of a say over it. Like I understand like voicing your concerns and expecting your partner to hear them, but like I don't think you should be the

Nyxdeciding factor in what she wears. >> Okay. Um, and so you consider this controlling? Isn't it a respect thing though?

Nyx>> Well, yeah. Def that is a factor, but I feel like it definitely gets into the territory of like controlling. Like respect is voicing your concerns and then finding consensus that works for the both of you. Controlling is forcing

Nyxyour way. >> Okay.

Brian AtlasCan I if my girlfriend wants to walk around the street literally naked, not figuratively naked, literally naked, >> would it be controlling for me to not want her to do that?

Nyx>> No, you're allowed to not want her to do that. But if that's her prerogative and you don't agree with that, then >> I'm like, if you Well, really the only thing you can do, like in most of these situations,

Brian Atlasusually there's not force being applied. It's basically just if you do that, I mean, you can be pouty and about it and I'm going to be really sad if you dress like a [ __ ] Um,

Brian Atlasbut really the the ultimate power that you have is I'm going to break up with you if you do that. Is that controlling >> to threaten to break up with her? >> Yeah. Just because, hey, um, that's not aligned with what I want in a girlfriend. I don't like the way you

Nyxdress. I'm gonna break up with you. >> Well, yeah. I mentioned this earlier. Like, I don't think setting your boundaries is controlling at all. But it's when you get to the point where you're like, I'm going to break up with you if you don't do this and you don't actually mean it. Like, you're just trying to control them, then yeah, that's >> Oh, yeah.

Nyx>> You shouldn't bluff that [ __ ] >> Yeah. Don't don't say it unless you mean it and like actually go through with it. >> At least mean the [ __ ] >> Yeah. So, I think if you actually meant it and you were actually trying to put a boundary down, then yeah, I don't think that's >> that's a lot of people get in some

Nyxreally toxic relationships when they bluff the breakup. >> Yeah, that's like I feel like that's I feel like that counts as a threat. I feel like that counts as manipulation. I think that's a little toxic. >> Yeah. Own that [ __ ] >> Exactly. >> Um All right. Well, I'd probably give

Brian Atlasyou a little more push back on the controlling thing, but just for the sake of time, I won't. But >> you've given me a lot of push back. It's okay. >> Show. >> It's very traumatic. Um >> Yeah. But I mean by people ultimately I

Nyxmean >> do you think it's unfair for men to have a general preference towards like their girlfriend dressing modestly though? >> I don't think it's unfair. I think that's just your values. >> Okay. >> I think it's unfair to like expect her

Brian Atlasto comply with that regardless of how she feels, you know? >> Yeah. I I guess just what about these like where do we take go with this though? Like what about more behavior based stuff? So, uh, a guy who doesn't

Nyxwant his girlfriend to go to the club, for example. >> Again, I think there's a difference between setting boundaries and communicating and like trying to force your way. So, I think forcing is controlling, but then actually trying to have a conversation with her, that's

Brian Atlasthat's productive. >> But you would agree that somebody can be controlling and like it's really hard to like unless you physically stop them, like how do you force somebody to do something aside from just being really

Brian Atlasgrumpy about it and being like, "This is an issue. this is a problem. At that point, that's just a really annoying dynamic for both people. It's like just break up, I guess. But >> yeah, >> um sometimes I feel like

Brian Atlas>> I don't know, some of y'all been programmed with the feminist mind virus >> and you grew up in a culture where certain things uh the way people move is

Brian Atlasdeemed acceptable when really the the culture is backwards, but you think it's okay. And I think it's a like I think it's a

Brian Atlasreasonable position for men to be like, I don't want my girl if I'm in a relationship with her, I'm uncomfortable with her going out to bars and clubs. Don't want her doing that. I don't want

Brian Atlasher dressing revealing. >> Don't want her dressing a certain way. >> She can wear kind of whatever the [ __ ] she wants, but like don't don't go out wearing [ __ ] nothing with your ass hanging out, titties hanging out, all

Brian Atlasthis. >> I I don't know if it's controlling. I think it's for most of human history, it's been a pretty reasonable uh standard for relationship-minded men. >> Yeah. But it, like I said again,

Brian Atlasdifference between controlling and like setting a boundary. >> Would it be controlling if a girl didn't want her boyfriend going to the strip club? >> How would how in this scenario, how did

Brian Atlasshe go about it? Um she was like I really like really quite fervently did not want her to go or she >> did not want it's late guys

Brian Atlas>> did not want him to go to the strip club but he's like no I'm you don't trust me I'm a strong independent man I you don't get to control me what are you insecure >> I think that's just like a very like I

Nyxdon't want to say toxic but I think that's a very unhealthy and unproductive dynamic I would I don't know if I would well >> well okay I'm exaggerating the guy's position on this But like the guy's like, "What? I'm going to the strip club with the boys. What's the big deal?"

Nyx>> I think if the two of you aren't willing to like have a conversation about that and be like, "I don't like it because this, this, and this." And then you're like, "Sorry, like this is how I feel about it." And then you guys talk about it. >> Isn't that how women feel about all this

Brian Atlasstuff? >> Like it's like the conversation. Y'all women are like, "I want to have the conversation. We can have the conversation, >> but you just want to beat up the guy."

Brian AtlasNot literally, >> figuratively. You want to beat the guy down to the point where he just relents and lets you do the ho [ __ ] that you want to do. >> Me personally, I I mean it. I mean it when I say that I want to have a

Brian Atlasconversation. Me personally, I can't speak to other women. >> You You want to have the conversation, but it's not clear to me if like you want to talk about it, but I don't know if you're going to actually be like,

Brian Atlas"You know what? You're right. I will do the thing that you're asking me to or I will meet you here." Well, in what type of women are you dating? >> I'm not none. He doesn't go on dates.

Brian Atlas>> I'm not saying that this is my experience. Uh although I sometimes I've like dealt with women who are uh you're not going to like this word. Defiant.

Brian AtlasDefiant. Very defiant. But um >> sounds like you're talking about a dog. Literally. >> Yes. >> She wasn't obedient. >> What a [ __ ] Um, but uh, no, I think uh, you guys want to have

Brian Atlasthe conversation so that you can get your way by beating the guy down verbally. >> Well, I don't think that's a healthy dynamic. I don't agree with that. >> Me, >> but like, okay, so in this situation, let's say a guy you're dating, he's

Brian Atlaslike, "Hey, I don't want you going I don't know if you go to bars or night or parties or whatever." Well, okay. You go to college, you go to college parties, right? >> No. >> Okay. You I don't know. >> Hypothetical. If I did, >> do you ever wear revealing clothes?

Brian Atlas>> Sure. Yeah. >> Like, >> yeah, >> butt sticking out, whatever. >> No, not that much. >> Okay. I don't know. Let's just say your boyfriend was like, "Hey, I'm not comfortable with that. You down to wear like jeans or something instead?" >> I'd be like, "Yeah, if it makes you

Nyxuncomfortable, I'm sorry. I'll change." >> Oh, you'll do it? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Conversation had victory for the man, I guess. I don't know. >> Well, just because like that's not like I don't know. Oh, I don't care too much if he has something to say about my outfit. Unless like

Nyx>> What if he was like, "I want you to wear a burka." >> Wait, >> like it turned him on. It was like a >> It turned him off. >> Turn him on. Nothing gets me going more than a woman in a burka. >> I'd be a little bit like, "Oh, um, okay. I'll see if I feel like wearing that." I

Brian Atlasguess >> I've tried to get all my atheist white girlfriends to wear burkas. All of them. And I'm very I'm very I'm gentlemanly

Brian Atlaswith this. I also um burkinis. I will buy them burkinis. So when we >> can we get a photo example? >> Yeah. >> Uh yeah, Mary, Google burkini. >> Bini.

Brian Atlas>> It's like a It's a thing. It's a thing. >> Uh while that's coming through, uh we have a TTS. Thank you, Wizard.

SPEAKER_01>> S7 Wizard donated $100. Please understand that men and women are not the same. You market her body. Men

Nyxuse their resources on women. Would you control his money on other women? Most women don't understand the difference. >> I don't >> Yeah. Am I just stupid? I don't I don't think that really

Emily (Coach)>> We're all women. >> Wait, what? >> You market your body. >> You just make us look stupid. >> We just look really stupid. >> Bikini. Scroll down a little bit.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, so it's a bikini. But >> it is not a bikini. So it's just that full coverage swimsuit. >> I I have uh I have a pool at my place and I insist that all the women I date

Brian Atlaswear only wear bikini bchinis. Excuse me. Just kidding. Oh my god, I re-triggered it. I'm [ __ ] >> Whoops. Sorry, getting [ __ ] late here. All right. Uh Isabella, can you read this? Poravore senior. Are you

Isabella (Bio)>> Do you speak Spanish? >> Uh no. My mom's from Mexico. I don't though. Anyways, ladies, if you're self-aware, it's undesirable to do stupid stuff. Don't fall for short-term decisions. If you need to write down and

Isabella (Bio)map out your goals, um, don't be a woman that gives sexual access openly. This is important for a lady. Respect your value. >> Thank you, Joe Murphy, for the super chat. Really appreciate it. >> What was What was that geared towards?

Brian Atlas>> I don't know. >> Giving us life as being a servant of God. >> Uh, Nick, you said you don't agree with most things said on the show. >> That was just like a general thing I couldn't think of. Well, we already disagreed on a bunch of [ __ ] so

Brian Atlas>> uh especially their takes on things like Oh, okay. This is probably for Andrew Wilson cuz you saw that clip, right? About the essay. Um All right. I mean, I'll just defend him Andrew really quickly here. So, the clip was taken out

Brian Atlasof context. It cuts off critical context. He was he was saying that for example recall many times tonight I

Brian Atlassaid would it then be the case that um with the Uber app for example like >> would it then be okay for a white person to uh only want to pair up with white

Brian Atlasdrivers or whatever. >> That's not my position. I'm like repeating back, okay, well, if your position is X, then that means your position should also be X for this. >> Sure. >> So, what Andrew was doing was saying,

Brian Atlaswell, okay, uh, the his debate opponent Oliver was making a claim about, I forget the exact specifics, but he was making some sort of claim. And then Andrew was using sort of a hypothetical

Brian Atlasscenario to say like, okay, well, if that's the case, then you would have to agree because some women enjoy essay that that would indicate that essay I forgot the exact argument here. Um, but

Brian Atlashe wasn't actually making the claim. >> He was just saying >> given your logic, your position would be this. Does that make sense? >> Sure. I mean, I was just saying that was

Brian Atlasa clip that I saw and I did. did get it. It cut the clip. >> Yeah, >> mind you, that was a 5-hour debate. It leaves out critical context. Andrew was basically saying,

Brian Atlas>> "If this is what you believe, then would it then apply to this scenario where you believe this, thus you would believe that this is the case when it comes to women being essay?"

Brian Atlas>> It was a crazy clip, though. You got to admit that was >> I mean sure sometimes optically like if somebody gets cut out of context it can make somebody look bad.

Brian Atlas>> I maybe me personally I would use like another example to try to articulate my point >> but in this case he was using like I guess an extreme example but again

Brian Atlasclipped out of context and he was making a criticism of the other guy's position >> if that makes sense. >> That's my defense of Andrew. I don't know if it was good, but I think it was

Brian Atlas>> Good job, Brian. >> Yeah. Uh, okay. Pass. Wait, hold on. Oh, we have another one here. One sec. >> Sar 7 Wizard donated $100.

SPEAKER_01>> Thank you, bro. >> The National Marriage Project published a report stating, "Individuals who marry with few premarital sexual partners report higher levels of marital

SPEAKER_01satisfaction, less trauma. Virgins are least divorced.

Brian Atlas>> V show. >> I mean, virgins aren't going to complain what they don't know, what they don't have. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Uh, so pause, you said that uh you were like in a situationship with a guy

Brian Atlasyou wrote, seriously felt like a massive weightlift. I guess you ended it with him, but you said weight lifted because you No one should have to feel like they should check the level of lube. >> Mhm. >> Every time you went over.

Poss>> Oh, >> yeah. Like it was a lot of control. >> I mean, the same guy found like this other woman's like pair of panties on his couch in his bedroom. You know what I mean? But the loop, what if he's just

Possjerking it with lubes? You know? >> Oh, maybe. But, you know, there was some other suspicious things like why would he play with like um a sex toy that he

Possgot for me >> and it was just out, you know? >> Like, what is he going to do with a vibrator? >> Guys can use that. >> You know what I mean? >> [ __ ] >> I mean, if he's freaky.

Brian Atlas>> Damn. Poss got done dirty. What the [ __ ] Poss? >> I done I thought I put you on some game, Pause. Anyways, whatever. Um, yeah. Uh, okay. You said modern dating sucks. You're getting older. You want somewhat

Brian Atlasto start making plan for your future. Uh, okay. Uh, you've gone out a few nights without paying for a single drink. Uh,

Brian Atlasthere. Yep. Uh, you met a guy at the bar face. Oh, okay. You met some guy. You kind of liked him. Turns out he's in an open relationship.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, that was a really interesting moment. >> Uh, okay. Uh, Gabriella. Who? That >> Asia. Gabriella. >> Oh, that's you.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, yeah. I got your name mixed up. Um, you think modern dating took a complete 180. Men want to be chased. What's the sizzle? Sizzle. What is it?

Brian AtlasSprinkle. Sprinkle. No. What's the guy version? >> Drizzle. Drizzle. I don't know. >> Sizzle. >> No one knows what courting is. Everyone's playing a game. Ping pong with a ball of I don't give a [ __ ] hot

Asiatakes. You said you think women have gone the definition of word provider wrong. >> Yeah, I think a lot of women want a

Asiaprovider, but it's just like moneywise. And I understand like obviously the regular definition, but it's like men tend to provide financially, but then

Asialack in other parts of the relationship, >> emotionally unavailable. >> Mhm. And I think because there's such a strong like okay he needs to provide and then men think that like okay I need to

Asiaprivate I financially they just don't cater to anything else. >> Okay. Word. Did we get everybody here? Did we do everybody? Did I do your

Brian Atlasnotes? >> Did you even have notes? >> Yeah. >> Bailey. >> Yeah, that's me. >> Oh, I almost skipped it. Okay, let me just do that super quick. Um, you dated a guy for 5 years when you were 17. He was 24.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Yikes. Okay. Basically cheated on you the whole time with like 20 chicks. Uh, you have a bunch of stories. Threesome with two guys. You did a devil's threesome.

Bailey (Nursing)>> Well, technically it was a foresome. There was three guys. So >> Oh, you said two guys. Threesome with two guys. >> Oh. >> Oh. So you also did a foresome. No >> with three dudes. >> No, I just did a foresome. I accidentally said threesome. >> You just did a foresome. Just a force

Bailey (Nursing)>> with >> three men. >> Wait, what? >> How many holes are there? >> Not enough. >> Oh, I guess >> it was it was turns. >> Okay. >> Turns were taken. [Music]

Bailey (Nursing)>> Uh, okay. You talked about the windshield punching. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Stole your car stereo or what? >> Punched my car stereo. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. I talked about that.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Uh, all right. That's most of it. Um, Emily, >> you got too many notes, but give us give us one or two that you want to hit on.

Emily (Coach)One or two topics you'd like to hit on. >> Um, I don't know. I don't remember all my notes, and it's like a couple weeks ago, but I don't know. I think that um, okay, here's one. I guess men are

Possmore emotional than women, but they're just not in touch with their emotions. >> That is so true. I have that issue with my current partner right now. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's communication like we've

Emily (Coach)tried to say before. >> Anything else? >> Any thoughts? >> No. Is Is there anything else you wanted to um >> touch on? >> I I don't remember what I Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Any Wait, anybody else here had a threesome? Show of hands. >> Boss, threesome. You threesome. Was it girl, girl, guy, guy, guy, girl? It >> was a girl and a guy. >> Okay.

Brian AtlasGood times. Same. >> Sweet. Uh, let me see if there's anything else. I'm pretty sure we're done. Um, anything else, Emily? Speak now. Forever. Hold your peace. All right, we're gonna Guys, it's late. I'm

Brian Atlastired. They're They're tired. We're going to get this wrapped up. Uh, let's see. No, not doing the makeup [ __ ] Uh, is there anything else? What are we forgetting, Mary? >> Hit the like button.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Uh, so GG. >> Hold on. Let me get to it. GG. Well played >> to the panel. Thank you guys for coming. You guys were dope. Love you guys. Thank you. Thank you for coming. Good convo. Good show. Last call, guys. Hit the like

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