Anti-Male Red Hair Feminist DESTROYED In HEATED Debate?! Tea App/UBER Reaction! | Dating Talk #253

Date: 2025-07-28

Duration: 8h 35m

Guests

Brian Atlas

BBailey (Nursing)>

IIsabella (Bio)>

JJackie (OF Manager)>

EEmily (Coach)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Asia(guest)

SPEAKER_03Poss(guest)

SPEAKER_04Key(guest)

SPEAKER_05Bailey (Nursing)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Nyx(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_12Isabella (Bio)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Jackie (OF Manager)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Emily (Coach)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 8 guests introduce themselves

Key MomentNyx reveals first relationship was coercive/sexually non-consensual

ControversyBrian argues Uber women-only feature is discriminatory, analogizes to racial segregation

Key MomentTea app hacked exposing 70K women. Brian announces 'Tally' counter-app.

Key MomentKey: held captive 4-5 hours by abuser. SWAT called. He got 3 months.

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Bailey, Isabella, Jackie, Asia, Nyx, Emily, Key, Poss.

Nyx First Relationship SA

Coercive relationship: car rides as leverage, dissociation, non-consensual encounters.

Uber Women-Only Feature Debate

Brian argues it is discriminatory. Analogizes to racial segregation.

Tea App Data Breach

70K women exposed. Brian announces counter-app Tally.

Body Count Round

Poss 50-70. Key 6. Asia ~10. Jackie 15-20.

Key DV Story

Held captive 4-5 hours. SWAT called. Abuser got 3 months.

Transcript

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Jackie (OF Manager)know, like sex toys and stuff. like we didn't sell sex, but um you know, guys would come in, they'd buy themselves like $300 toys, and then when it came to like the woman being like, "Let me buy a toy." They're like, "No, she has me. She

Jackie (OF Manager)doesn't need a toy." I think it should be a mutual thing. You know what I mean? Like >> Mhm. >> You're both trying to meet each other in the middle. Whatever that looks like is different for every person. >> Sure. Nick, I sent you something in

Brian Atlasprivate chat. This went viral like a decade ago. So, this uh this guy kept a a spreadsheet. We have a chat here. I'll read really quick. Blest, marriage is a

Brian Atlasunion, not a compromise. Thank you, Blest. Appreciate it. >> All right. >> A little contradictory, but >> yeah, new tab like just the image. So, husband

Brian Atlas>> kept a spreadsheet of all the times his wife denied him sex. >> I think I saw this. >> So, we're going to we're going to look into that. No, look. You got it.

Emily (Coach)>> All right. Make it a little bigger. >> If my husband did that, we would not be having sex. >> For real. >> No sex. >> Nick, try to rightclick the image and do just open a new tab. Right click.

Brian Atlas>> I did that. >> And it just gives you the Reddit one again. Okay, that's fine. In any case, um, so this is over the course of a month and a half, June 3rd to July 16th. She says yes

Brian Atlas>> twice. >> Three times. Three times. Her excuses. I won't read all of them, but I'm watching a show, Friends Rerun. Uh she says, "I feel sweaty and gross." You know what?

Isabella (Bio)Let's have a girl read these. These are uh Isabella, can you read these? >> What number? From where? >> Uh just from the top. Like I feel sweaty. That one. >> All right. I feel sweaty and gross. I

Isabella (Bio)need a shower. I'm exhausted. I'm still a bit tender from yesterday. non-verbal. I'm trying to watch the movie. Fell asleep 15 minutes later. I'm too drunk

Isabella (Bio)and I ate too much. Uh, I won't have time to get showered and get ready. They were 20 minutes early. Came back from the gym and I feel gross. Didn't shower till next morning. Non-verbal. I have to

Isabella (Bio)wake up early. Non-verbal. You're too drunk. I feel gross. I'm not feeling good. I ate too much. Sweaty and gross. Tired. Non-verbal. Might be getting

Isabella (Bio)sick. Don't feel 100%. too tired, non-verbal, watching my show, and I don't want to miss anything. >> All right. So, in this situation, and we have to assume that's probably been a pattern even

Asiabefore he started keeping the spreadsheet. >> What do you guys think? You think uh >> I think she's been emotionally checked out. >> Yeah, >> you could tell by her responses, she's just finding a way out. >> She sounds like me in that relationship.

Emily (Coach)I'm not going to lie. >> Excuses. >> That's one theory. It's also possible that she could be going through menopause. She could have a lower libido. Her husband might be bad at initiating. >> Yeah. But that's where the communication

Bailey (Nursing)comes into play. It's like if you're feeling like that and you're going through menopause or whatever. Like you have to express that. You can't just Yeah. make up a bunch of excuses. >> To be fair, he didn't put any context. He was just like these are

Jackie (OF Manager)>> there was no context. He was not like, "Yeah, my wife is going through this." >> He was just like, "Here's the list." >> But if she said that, maybe he'd put it on the Reddit. I don't know. >> I mean, maybe if he lit some candles and like, you know, brought her some roses, maybe like be a little different in my

Jackie (OF Manager)defense. Like, >> spice it up. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. I think like bought some toy, like whatever you're comfortable with. I think that like we get so comfortable in these relationships and then we get checked out or like it's not that we're unattracted to them, but there's just

Jackie (OF Manager)not that same spark there anymore, which is okay. You're with someone for 20 years. Of course, it's not going to be the same spark, but like switch it up. Let's do something different. And also in traditional households like with man and wife, the woman is doing if she has

Emily (Coach)a job, she's doing the workload and she's taking on the house load and she's taking on the children. They actually did a survey about this about how >> even in marriages now the man still is not putting as much of the housework in or the children's work even with

Emily (Coach)feminism and all these other things coming up. Uh so she's act it does lead to a lower sex it does >> Oh no, you're good. It does lead to a lower sex drive in her because if your energy is everywhere else, then of course you're not going to feel like sleeping with your husband.

Bailey (Nursing)>> Yeah. >> Last thing I want to do after all that is give you head. >> Yeah. Think bottom bottom line is Yeah. That's where communication comes into play. Like you have to be >> communicative about >> Question for you guys. Um let's say

Brian Atlasyou're in a relationship and it is a relationship. You know, it's not like you're waiting for sex or whatever. Uh, do you agree or disagree with the following statement? Just because you're

Brian Atlasin a relationship, parenthesis, or married with him or to him does not mean you need to have sex with him. Do you agree with this statement or disagree with this statement? >> Can you say it again one more time? >> Yeah. Just because you're in a

Jackie (OF Manager)relationship with him does not mean you need to have sex with him. >> I think need no, you don't need to. I think it depends on your agreement in the person and how you're compatible. Like because there's asexual people.

Jackie (OF Manager)What if you're married to someone who's asexual? So I think that's a very like spec like I don't think you need to >> but assuming like a normal dynamic. >> I mean depends on the situation. >> The word need here is kind of funny

Emily (Coach)because both partners have their own needs. Meaning that the woman has sexual needs, the man has sexual needs. So if you are going to adhere to your partner's needs, you communicate kind of like what the theme has been about.

Jackie (OF Manager)>> Well, I guess if we're going that way, then yes. But I don't think like need like >> Yeah. I don't like the word need. >> Yeah. I don't think like you need to adhere like we're not like >> like of course you always have the right. >> Yeah. Again, we're not I this

Brian Atlasconversation is occurring within the context of consensual encounters. But wouldn't it be fair to say that like if you want the relationship to

Brian Atlascontinue, wouldn't it be fair to say that you probably do need to have sex with your boyfriend? >> Yeah. >> I'm fully agreeable with that.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. I know the need thing like people want to push it into this direction of like well of course it's always consensual but I I would say like I would how can you not say that you have

Brian Atlasto you need to have sex with your partner >> like because when what I'm saying there is >> your partner's going to break up with you >> if you don't >> well they'll cheat on you. >> Yeah. >> If they're not getting it from you

Jackie (OF Manager)they're going to get it from somebody else. Well cheating lacks discipline. I think in integrity, but >> I think if you want a relationship to continue and you like them that much, unless you're asexual, there's no need to have sex, you're just going to be

Jackie (OF Manager)attracted to them and you're going to have sex. >> No, I think I think we need to have sex. >> But I'm just saying there's no like need if you're already attracted to them and want to stay with them.

Brian Atlas>> Like what if the boy what if the boyfriend unilaterally just stops having sex with the girlfriend? >> That's that's what happened. I'm going to say terrible. >> I wouldn't look at the girlfriend who's

Brian Atlaslike after a couple weeks or months of that and she's now all of a sudden wants to break up with him. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up breaking up with him. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> And if I don't know, somebody came to me for advice and >> Yeah. >> they were like, "Hey, my partner, whether it's a man or a woman, wants to have sex, but more frequently than I do or I just not

Brian Atlasreally feeling it." I'd be like, "Well, if you want to keep your boyfriend, you need to have sex with them." >> Sex is a need in a relationship. I like >> you have to be on the same level. Like,

Brian Atlasyeah, that's where communication comes in. If you don't have that desire, then I would I could also tell them you should probably you could consider breaking up too and find somebody who

Brian Atlasyou're either more attracted to, who you have more sexual chemistry with, or who um matches your libido. >> I mean, yeah, that's what I proposed. >> Nobody's >> And then he said he would match me and

Brian Atlashe never matched me. >> Yeah. Nobody Nobody is obligated to have sex. Yeah, >> the again consent 100% crucial. But I think communication and respect

Jackie (OF Manager)>> for each other's needs >> that's uh that's also crucial too. >> Yeah. >> But also in my experience when people stopped having sex with me, they were cheating. So that >> I feel like I'd be like >> so icky.

Poss>> Yeah. I'm like so you're [ __ ] someone else. Like >> you have no honoring up with someone else. But >> this is more of a question for like anyone, but what if you met someone that

Posswas just so amazing and you're like head over heels towards that person, but they're like horrible at sex. What do you do then? Teach them. >> Yeah. >> Where's that?

Emily (Coach)>> We can build. >> Yeah. Teach them what you like. >> We can we can start from the bottom >> and if they can't learn there's >> Yeah. I would say like again like >> so then chemistry is important then

Bailey (Nursing)chemistry would be very important to me in a relationship. >> As long as they're open to like yeah >> new things and new interests like yeah as long as they're open >> as long as they're deaf and they can

Posshear like you need like literally >> there's nothing wrong with deaf people. Well, now I'm kind of confused because I thought we we were just talking about

Emily (Coach)how like sex does not matter. >> It does for me. Yeah. >> My stance and many of the stance on here is that sex is a need in a relationship and a very fundamental one. I would think

Jackie (OF Manager)>> I think that's a thing that everyone can only speak for themselves on. You know what I mean? Because like I'm sure there are people where sex isn't a big deal. >> So you're saying it's not a need, but it's more of a want. I think it is a

Jackie (OF Manager)need because like we all want pleasure and we all want feel fulfilled and feel like obviously like sex is a stress reliever, you know, but for some people I can't speak for them. There's obviously some people that don't care about sex.

Jackie (OF Manager)>> Okay. >> So, yeah, I guess I would say a want. >> Yeah, it depends on the person. >> For me, it's a need. I'm just going to say it. >> I mean, for me, it's a need. >> I just need some kind of pleasure. I

Jackie (OF Manager)don't need sex necessarily. You could buy me tacos and I'm pretty happy. >> Boltonator. Oh, whoops. Hold on. Trying to trigger this.

Brian AtlasIs it not? Hello. Hello. Hello. Play. Play. There it is. Yo, thank uh shop whatever.com. Thank you for purchasing a piece of merch. Thank you, Boltonator. Looks like you got a t-shirt there. Appreciate it.

Brian AtlasThank you, man. Um, okay. Here, let me finish up the relationship status here really quick. Uh, going to you. >> Oh, I'm single. I've been single for about 2 to 3 months now and my longest relationship has been a year and a half.

Brian Atlas>> All right. Who broke up with who? >> I broke up with them every time. >> Okay. Uh what about you? >> Engaged >> for how long? >> Uh since 2020. >> Engaged since 2020. Together? >> I apologize. Together since 2020.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So, uh 5 years. >> All right. Longest relationship? >> Uh seven. >> All right. Ever married? >> No. >> No. >> Nope. >> Oh, okay. Um, >> who broke up with who in the seven-year relationship? >> Uh, he left me.

Key>> He left you >> or his best friend's ex. >> Good times. Babe, >> good times. >> Drastic out. >> All right. >> I did have to pay his alimony, though. >> What the [ __ ] >> Wait, what? >> What? >> Yeah. >> I had to pay him to get him to leave

Keylike for our house. We bought a house together >> and for him to give me the whole house, I had to give him portion of a lot of cash. So, >> are are you from California then? >> Nope. Washington. Washington. Okay. Yeah. Washington sucks.

Key>> Oh, did you guys have a common law marriage then? >> Oh, but you guys >> they have a no fault >> purchased a house together. >> Yeah. So, I basically paid him out. Um, basically he figured it was like rent

Keyfor the years that we bought the house together. Uh, so we bought the house in 2011 and he left in 2014. So, I paid him basically half of the mortgage for the

Keyyears he lived there. >> Okay. So you it wasn't really alimony then. >> I consider it that. Hate him. >> But it was related to the house, right? >> Yeah, it was. Okay. >> So I I didn't have to sell it so I could

Posskeep it myself. >> I see. Okay. Poss. What about you? >> Um I just got into a relationship not that long ago. >> How long y'all been together?

Poss>> Like three months. Like new. >> Okay. Three months. >> Yeah. >> All right. Longest relationship? >> Uh my longest was two years. two years. All right. Who broke up with who?

Brian Atlas>> I broke up with him. >> Okay, cool. All right, that's everybody's uh relationship status. We have a a couple reacts uh I wanted to uh get to. Uh why don't

Brian Atlaswe do that? >> Um >> Oh, right. Okay. So, there's two there's two main things. Then we have some React. So, the first thing is Uber that I wanted to go over. So, Uber recently

Brian Atlasreleased. It's not really dating related, but uh I don't know, whatever. Gender related. Uh so that's Scroll down a little bit, Nick.

Brian AtlasOkay. Uh actually, just click the the center one at the top. Yeah. Uh Uber is launching a new women preferences feature in the United States with pilot

Brian Atlasprograms in Los Angeles, SF, and Detroit. This allows women riders to request women drivers and women drivers to opt in for women only trips. It's already facilitating over 100 million

Brian Atlastrips globally. The feature aims to enhance safety, confidence, and flexibility while offering more choice. Expect potentially longer wait times for

Brian Atlasthese matches. And then uh go over to their uh Twitter, the Uber Twitter. They also posted some stuff. Uh scroll down.

Brian AtlasUh, scroll down, scroll down, scroll down. Okay, that one. Uh, here. Just scroll up. Click. Just do click more or show more. My bad. More choice, more control. Women told us they wanted the

Brian Atlasoption to be matched with other women. And we listened. Uh, after piloting these features in other countries, bringing women preferences to the United States. Riders can choose a woman

Brian Atlasdriver. Drivers get more flexibility and control because because when we make Uber better for women, we make it better for everyone. and scroll up and then Good Morning America covered

Brian Atlasit. Women will soon have more options when it comes to who they match with on ride sharing trips. Scroll up. Uh you can now request a woman Uber driver if you're a woman. Okay. Uh

Brian Atlasscroll up again >> if you're a woman. >> Uber's new feature in the US makes ride sharing safer for female riders and drivers. All right. Uh going around the

Bailey (Nursing)table, your reaction. Are you in favor? What do you think? Good, bad, neutral? >> Neutral. But I think it's good because

Bailey (Nursing)I prefer women doctors because I've had terrible experiences with male doctors. Okay. >> So, like I specifically seek out women cuz I feel safer with them. Okay. >> So, yeah.

Isabella (Bio)>> Uh I think it's a good thing if you have trauma with that type of stuff, then you're probably more comfortable with another woman. Mhm. >> Also, if you're a small woman, you can be easily taken advantage of. You know, you're not going to win against a large

Jackie (OF Manager)man. >> Um, I agree just cuz the same thing like you could request like a woman doctor and you just whatever makes you feel more comfortable. You know, women can be

Asiapredators, too. However, it's less likely than a man in our experience. >> I I'm happy that they did that. I've had bad experiences, so I mean, and I'm small. Like, it's it's hard. So, >> sure. >> I agree.

Emily (Coach)>> What about you? What do you think? >> Um, I think like what's the harm? It makes people feel safer. So, what? >> Sure. Okay. >> Thoughts? >> So, me personally, I've it hasn't

Emily (Coach)crossed my mind to ever request a female driver. Okay. I will leave space for people who are traumatized and feel safer that way. Beautiful. Love it. Glad that you have it. Um, if me personally,

Emily (Coach)I may have requested like if if I'm around guys that are like making me uncomfortable at a bar or something, I might actually request a male driver because somebody who might be able to intimidate them because men respect men

Emily (Coach)other more than women. So, in my opinion, like I think that again, it's great for people who feel safer that way and it's more comfortable for them to be in it in that environment because of

Emily (Coach)things that they're working through. And a little nuance that I'll add here is that like um one thing that I've seen in society a lot is a lot of men versus women and perpetuating more and more and

Emily (Coach)more this like men are violent or evil or whatever it is. And like there's really great men out there. And I think that if I were a predator, yes, Uber might be a way that I go about

Emily (Coach)predatoring. But uh so again, lots of nuance here. But overall, glad for the people who who could use it and who feel safer that way. I would not utilize it myself.

Key>> Okay. Your thoughts? >> I agree with her. I wouldn't utilize it. I, no offense, I don't think women are the best drivers, so I wouldn't want to get an Uber with a woman. Um, and

Keyhonestly, with your fact that a man would intimidate another man from a bar, I think that would be a good point. But honestly, having that option is maybe having that option doing grocery pickup or the grocery ordering, having women do that cuz they were a little bit more

Brian Atlasdetailed. >> Yeah. >> than than missing the items at the store. But >> they had to pick the avocado. >> I think it's just for rides. I think it's just for rides at the moment. Paul, your thoughts?

Poss>> Um, I agree with the last few things. Um, I I have like so many questions about it because how do we know if it's like really safe because it could be a man

Brian Atlasmaking a profile as a woman requesting woman? Wouldn't that also be a danger if we're talking about that? That was apparent on the Uber app. I think whether you're the driver, I think drivers go through more verification,

Brian Atlasbut as a passenger, you can just go into your settings, like I can just change my gender to woman. >> Yeah. So, it's not like ID verified. >> Yeah. >> So, I don't know. When it comes to the driver's side,

Bailey (Nursing)>> like your driver's license says Yeah. >> Yeah. But you can just change your gender in the app. But anyways, um >> but your thoughts overall, assuming like everything works out fine, the w the

Brian Atlaswoman can just pick to be picked up by a woman. The woman driver can prioritize wanting to pick up female passengers in favor. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Guess I'm less bothered by Uber. Yeah. It's just doctors that give and take. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think when it comes to a situation where you're in a like un state of undress, I think it's

Brian Atlasfine to have preferences with like same with bathrooms. >> If you're in a state of undress, I can see how there's like a bonafideed reason for wanting to >> only have people of the same

Bailey (Nursing)>> Yeah. I'm like I guess I'm Yeah. less on this issue with drivers versus Yeah. >> Do you want to finish your thoughts on this though? Um, I don't really know what more to say

Possabout it, but um, I don't I personally just don't trust it. I think it's a a great thing that they're trying to start, but I don't see um

Posslike a safety towards it, like verification, you know, like photo identity, like you know, like when you make a Tinder profile, you get like a check mark if you do like a whole like 360 of your face to make sure that

Brian Atlasyou're not like >> Well, let's assume they can verify and ensure that if you click this preference that you want a woman to pick you up, that it is going to be a woman who picks you up. And if you're the driver's side,

Possyou're gonna get a uh you can have a preference to just pick up female passengers. >> Okay. Well, maybe I just have justice shoes, but you know, there's like people who um you know, >> put on the wigs, wear like makeup, and

Brian Atlaslike >> Yeah, but they could do that. I mean, so currently the current sort of uh what's it called? The status quo is when you purchase an Uber, you could get a woman,

Brian Atlasyou could get a man. So you as women you can currently you could just get a man to pick you up but now with this option there's like a greater likelihood that they're going to they're going to try to

Posspair you with a female driver. >> But isn't this option to have like women feel more safe if they feel like they could have >> a a female driver? Mhm.

Poss>> So, I'm just saying like what if it was a male that acts as a female to get a woman driver and want to maybe harm her? That's all. >> Oh, you're saying Okay, I see what

Brian Atlasyou're saying. You're saying uh with this option, uh it it would make it >> because now if you're just on Uber, you don't really know who you're going to get as the guy. Like >> probably good chance you end up with a

Brian Atlasmale driver, right? Because I think there's more male Uber drivers than female Uber drivers. In this instance though, they could like fake their gender. So they could intentionally try to target getting a female driver basically. Or the reverse, I guess,

Brian Atlascould be true, too. >> There's probably again more verification on the driver's side where they're going to put like do a bit more to verify that the driver is a female. So I guess

Brian Atlasunlikely for the driver to be trying to be like predatory, I guess, in this circumstance. But uh Okay. I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. >> Yeah. >> All right. Well, I'm going to come in with a hot take. Okay.

Brian Atlas>> I don't like it. >> I don't like it. Um and I think because it is creating a accepted social stigma towards men. I understand that women do have bad

Brian Atlasexperiences with men. Understand that women have certain safety concerns etc. But I would like to present to you a challenge to the logic as follows.

Brian AtlasUh, and you, a lot of women would say, well, men are more likely to commit certain crimes or as women, you guys have had firstirhand, secondhand,

Brian Atlasthird-hand bad experiences with men. Well, hold on. What if I as a white person, I'm not saying that this is the case, but let's say I made the case

Brian Atlashypothetically that I could point to a race that was more represented in crime statistics and I had a bad I was

Brian Atlasattacked in my past by a member of this racial group and I said, "I only want to be matched with people of my own race." We would I think we would all rightfully

Brian Atlaslook at this. First off, the optics. If Uber were to implement like a whites can only you have a white preference. You want to be paired with a white driver, it would optically be [ __ ] terrible

Brian Atlasfor Uber. But it would also quite clearly be uh racist. It'd be a racist practice. It'd be discriminatory. In that in that same light, I think it's

Brian Atlasdiscriminatory towards men to create a social stigma. Of course, there's there are men out there who are monsters who do commit crimes, but I think the

Brian Atlasmajority of Uber rides go off just you get in the car, maybe the guy makes like annoying conversation, whatever. You get in the car, he brings you to your place, that's

Brian Atlasit. Has there been in the past some bad things on in Uber? I I've seen videos though where I saw uh a uh a Muslim Uber

Brian Atlasdriver I think he was Muslim maybe whatever picking up two white women and the white woman just [ __ ] for no reason and he it's all recorded on on

Brian Atlasthe dash cam maces the the the Muslim Uber driver and I think it was like racially motivated possibly she just he wasn't doing anything literally just

Brian Atlas[ __ ] driving or whatever takes out her pepper spray. Mace is the dude. So, you know, I think me men have experienced this too. Probably like I'll be charitable, not as frequently as

Brian Atlaswomen will have negative encounters, but it does seem a little uh discriminatory. You know, I thought we were against discrimination. >> I actually kind of see where you're

Brian Atlascoming from. >> I do, but I don't. >> Well, and oh, one other thing here. And I like as a man I I want a male driver.

Brian Atlas>> Are you guys okay with that? If I say no. I say no. Please please never. >> If I say please never Oh my god. Sorry I spit there. >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Very impassionate. Yeah. Passionate. >> Please only put me only put me with a male driver. And the basis of this is

Brian Atlasbecause, you know, maybe it's like a I have a prejudice towards women. Like I what if she falsely accused me of something or I have another prejudice. What if I'm like she's just a bad

Emily (Coach)driver? >> Okay. But if you if you wanted that, why is that an issue? >> Well, maybe just too many women hit on you. >> Well, so I'm just gonna I'm gonna actually agree with Brian in a lot of ways. I think that victimization is a

Emily (Coach)real thing. I think victimhood is something that people voluntarily accept when they don't take they don't take ownership and responsibility of their trauma and their triggers. Meaning that again I have been through a lot of

Emily (Coach)experiences myself and so I've been through the phase of fearing men or like you know being triggered or whatever it is. However, like you know when I like it's not your fault what happened to

Emily (Coach)you, but it is your responsibility to to grow and learn from it and to become stronger from it, wiser from it, more savvy from it, and become more empowered from it. So again, like you know, you can't because you had a a bad encounter

Emily (Coach)with a couple of women or a couple of men. That doesn't mean that all men are bad or that they're all out to get you or all women are bad. They're all out to get you. But as long as you don't work through your stuff, you're going to keep attracting unsafe people into your life. >> That's awesome.

Brian Atlas>> But you guys are cool. Like if I just have a prejudice against female drivers and I I don't feel safe. It's about my safety. I don't want to get in the car with with a female driver. >> I feel like I addressed that.

Brian Atlas>> But well, I'm not even responding. I'm just saying it to the table. >> If I I want to be able to pick a male driver. >> Yeah, you should. That's actually this day and age. >> Are you guys cool with it? You guys cool

Brian Atlaswith it? I'm not judging you. >> But am I being sexist towards women? I feel like it's a little sexist. It's a little sexist towards women. >> See, Brian, realize that you're asking the table where there's a lot of women out there who are psycho and would be

Emily (Coach)like, "Yeah, you want male drivers? Let's go. Only males." No women. >> Sure. >> Sure. I guess. But I I think it is >> like we're all for it over here.

Brian Atlas>> No, I'm sure I'm sure. >> Do you boo? Well, I'm sure the women are all for the separation, but they would probably have some objections to the

Brian Atlasreasoning or the prejudice uh espoused that, okay, I think I'm, you know, whatever. Okay, let's move the like safe driver thing. What if I'm like, okay, uh I think the woman's going to falsely

Brian Atlasaccuse me of something >> and that's why. But you guys would be like, well, okay, you can't just generalize all women. Like, most women are not going to like falsely accuse you of something. I think that some of us

Jackie (OF Manager)just have triggers in our bodies that we can't even control. Like it is your job to work through that for sure. Get in therapy. Like, you know, do those things. However, you can't if you can avoid feeling that way or reacting a certain way, why wouldn't you? You know

Brian Atlaswhat I mean? >> But but here's I guess here's my thing here. As a society, we've deemed sexism is bad, right? But now we're kind of walking it back to

Brian Atlasthe point where okay, but if I can justify my sexism, then it's okay. For example, I could the same arguments that women use when it comes to feeling unsafe with men and then they want to

Brian Atlashave certain uh they want to have corporations employ discrim uh discriminatory practices. What's stopping me from making like similar

Brian Atlaslogically commensurate arguments as it relates to racial segregation? Like, okay, I don't think like, hold on, let me phrase this properly.

Brian AtlasI think it would be racist to say for somebody to be like, I had a bad experience with a black person before. I want corporate policies to allow me to

Brian Atlasonly uh have a white Uber driver. like that would be clearly racist and they might even that could even be illegal. It might even be illegal to uh discriminate on this basis at least in

Brian AtlasCalifornia. California has a law. It's called the civil right uh the unrue civil rights act I believe. I think it was passed in the 60s. You

Brian Atlascan't uh businesses can't discriminate on the basis of gender uh sex uh race I think a couple other metrics.

Brian AtlasSo Uber would be in violation of California law if it had I I believe it would. I could be wrong. If it had a policy that basically was like

Brian Atlasif you're white, you can pick to only be picked up by white people. Or if you're the driver, imagine the driver is setting it. So the driver is like, I don't want to pick up black people. I

Brian Atlasonly want to pick up white people. I'm sure everybody hears doesn't that sound terrible? >> It does. That sounds really racist. If the driver's like, "I don't want to pick up black." >> You probably shouldn't just not Uber then.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> I guess what I'm trying to get at though is it seems like discrimination is okay when it comes to men.

Brian Atlas>> I love your hypotheticals, but I mean race and sex are different. >> They are different. >> They are They are different, but they are also both protected categories when it comes to discrimination. >> Yeah. I >> Okay. I mean like for I mean this was

Brian Atlasone of the basis of a lot of like feminist uh you know activism is we want access to men's spaces because men were saying no we want to associate only with

Brian Atlasmen you can't join our golf course you can't join our you know whatever it is so I think perhaps there could be equality under this if they allow men to

Brian Atlaspick to only ride with men but the feature has been rolled out only for women. So, you could make an argument if they allow it. Look, and I'm not a I'm not a, you know, civil rights attorney.

Brian AtlasSo, I don't know precisely if this actually uh would be some sort of contravention of the civil any sort of federal or state civil rights laws, but I think for it to be equal, you got to

Brian Atlasoffer it to both men and women. Currently, as it stands, it's kind of discriminatory on its face. But then I would then say, well, okay, let's say you equalized it. Let's bring it to race. Let's say you said, okay, well,

Brian Atlaswe're going to we're going to equalize it. Whites can just ride with whites and blacks can pick to just I would still be like, it's still kind of racist. It's still kind of segregation.

Brian AtlasBut then also, I guess my next question is how far can we take this? Like should we do can airplanes can a airline

Brian Atlasdecide? No, we're gonna have female planes and male planes. Can can airlines do that legally? I don't know. Maybe if

Isabella (Bio)you you maybe you offer uh as long as you're offering two planes leaving at the same time, maybe. I don't I don't know exactly how it would work. >> I mean, Uber is typically one-on-one situation. We're not talking about planes. We don't want female planes.

Jackie (OF Manager)There's flight attendants there. you can speak up. There's other people that can protect you if you're in a bad situation. >> I think it's unnecessary to like I don't think like planes would be necessary. You know what I mean? I don't think you can fix division with more division. I'll just say it like that.

Brian Atlas>> I agree. >> I also agree. >> Chat, I'm going to let the Sometimes we do this. We let the chat weigh in. Chat, I'm looking at you guys right now on YouTube. So, um, Isabella, Isabelle or Isabella? >> Isabella.

Brian Atlas>> Isabella made the following argument. She says, "Well, as it relates to the plane versus the Uber," she made a she made a good argument. She said, "Well, with the Uber, you're one-on-one. It's

Brian Atlasjust one, you're you're alone, right? Whereas with an airplane or a train, uh, there's a bunch of other passengers. There's like flight attendants." Um, so

Brian Atlasdo you think it differs there? Is there an argument because of the uh more isolated nature of a you know you're taking an Uber, you're taking a taxi, whatever. Do you think that's compelling

Brian Atlasargument? If it is compelling, what would be your counterargument to Isabella? Uh why don't you pull up the Twitch nick and show the chat so we can see what the chat's saying? Uh and just

Brian Atlasso just leave the chat up if you just want to bring it to window. Uh let's see. Chat, what do they here? Hold on. I have to bring I have to put it members only temporarily otherwise it's just going to get spammed.

Brian Atlas>> No, it's fine. You can leave it up. All right, chat. We're doing the segment. You get to make the argument. Uh you get to make the argument. Chat, what's the argument? Uh Davon Jackson, you're taking money out of men's pockets by limiting the

Brian Atlaspeople who can ride with them. Oh, that's interesting. Okay, that's an interesting argument. So, you're basically less opportunities for men. >> There's more male drivers in general and

Brian Atlasmen that make more. I was going to >> he says Bernard says, "I think it's a good argument because when there is more people, less chance of crime." >> Uh bear bear driver option says, "Boosted Coyote."

Brian Atlas>> I'm so silly. >> Uh this plays right into our segregation plans. Thank you. I support it. We don't care about this. Plus, you're holding up traffic. Free association applies to any sex or race.

Brian AtlasUh send home the sack of potatoes. Okay. What uh what are the stats on Uber related mail crime versus airplanes or train crimes with multiple people? I I mean I would just go ahead and say yeah,

Brian Atlasthere's probably more incidents of crime occurring in isolated situations like Uber. >> Uh what stops men identifying as women?

Brian AtlasThat's a good question. Women are going to have to wait 1 hour longer for rides. The likelihood anything happens in an Uber is the same likelihood anything happens with a woman in the woods. Okay.

Brian AtlasAll right. All right. Okay. Well, we got some arguments there. Thank you guys. I'll uh take it put it back to >> We have some arguments there. >> Sorry.

Brian Atlas>> Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Uh >> anyways, um so anybody in favor of uh what should I the segregated

Brian Atlasshould we bring back segregation? What do you guys think? >> What? That's a good idea to get away from that. >> But I I don't I guess so Isabelle raises

Brian Atlasthe point of like well there's the difference between like alone versus groups of people less like less likely for bad things to occur if there's a whole bunch of people around.

Brian AtlasBut like could we just go and you know what if we do take it to a larger scale? Planes, trains, can we do um buses? Can we do female only buses? That's a bit

Brian Atlasmore buses can be a bit more isolated than a plane or a train. Uh what about graduation ceremonies? Segregate. Put the the women over there, the men over there,

Jackie (OF Manager)>> or race of that. >> Should we segregate? We could race racially segregate. Should we? >> I think we're good. No, I really think it comes down to the one-on-one thing cuz like I think that we got away from segregation for a reason. And if like

Jackie (OF Manager)you're in a public setting that literally like the one-on-one thing that's eliminated cuz you're around other people. You know what I mean? There's always a risk man or woman that anyone could hurt another person.

Brian Atlas>> Like I think just the Uber thing is because it's a one-on-one experience. >> Okay. Well, I have not as at least as it relates to larger scenarios with a train, bus, airplane. I'm sure there's

Brian Atlasactually I could probably make some compelling arguments, but I didn't really think that one through specifically. But I do still think it's compelling though, even if we do bring it to the one-on-one dynamic. Again, if

Brian Atlasyou're say you're a white person and you're going to say, "I had a bad experience with a person of a different racial group." That's the same justification women use

Brian Atlasfor wanting to have these certain protections in place. Why can't a white person say, "I only want to ride with a white person."

Brian Atlas>> Well, they should probably get a car. >> Okay. Women should probably get a car. >> I'm just joking. I'm just joking. >> But again, I So, I think just to be clear, I'm not advocating for segregation. I think it would be racist

Brian Atlasto think this. Yeah, >> but then so it must surely be sexist against men to have this woman's

Jackie (OF Manager)preference policy. Anybody disagree? >> I don't think it necessarily is sexist. I think it's just like a safety thing. But I do think like it needs like a crash course. Like I think like it needs

Brian Atlasto be thought through a little more. >> Sure. But but then okay then again a white racist person can say I don't feel safe around this racial group. So then what would be your objection if

Jackie (OF Manager)their basis for their racism is due to their safety concerns? Like let's say they have legitimate safety concerns. >> I just think it's really hard cuz there's so many races versus there's like technically two genders. We can like obviously get into that, you know,

Jackie (OF Manager)like man, woman. >> I know. I'm just saying like if we're going man, woman, like Uber wise, but there's so many different races. It'd be hard to be like I only want this race. >> Sure. What if you're a white person and

Brian Atlasyou've you've had bad experiences with all the other racial groups except for the white >> that's way harder to pinpoint like I think like >> Yeah, but they still they they fear other racial groups. >> What exactly are the safety concerns?

Brian Atlas>> The safety concerns. >> Yeah. What's the safety concern? >> Well, so you would agree that if a woman has had firsthand negative bad experiences with a man, that would be their justification for a safety concern, right? So like let's say

Isabella (Bio)a white person got beat up by a black person 3 years ago. They could then use this as justification for feeling unsafe around black people. >> I think for like the woman and men there and more in terms of like size and their men are bigger testosterone. Men have

Isabella (Bio)more testosterone. They're stronger their ability to build muscle. They can more >> like race doesn't have anything to do with that really. Like yeah there's one bad person that doesn't make everyone bad. Yeah, there's one bad man that doesn't make everyone man bad, but you have more testosterone. You're stronger still.

Brian Atlas>> Good point. >> Still scary. Okay. But I don't think so I don't think necess I agree with you that men are generally speaking larger than women, physically stronger than women. >> Uh but just because you're larger or

Brian Atlasphysically stronger than somebody that's not basis for prejudice against them assuming they're going to be uh violent or a predator. >> Not necessarily. It puts you more at risk though. You're going to be more at risk there. >> You're not more at risk. They just

Brian Atlas>> Well, you're more in risk. You're at risk everywhere >> in the sense that >> you're more at risk in the sense that for example >> uh Chihuahua are really aggressive dogs

Brian Atlas>> but because of their smaller size >> uh their likelihood of being aggressive doesn't diminish because of their size but they're going to be able to do less harm than say pit bull who can kill

Brian Atlashumans Chihuahua can't really kill humans. That's what she's saying though. Like men are bigger and more >> honestly. Wait, one thing. If you can get killed by a Chihuahua, >> you kind of deserve it.

Brian Atlas>> You're probably mean that >> like you kind of if a Chihuahua can kill you, >> eh, you probably should just let it like let's just let it happen. >> Just >> like you kind of deserve. >> Okay. Yeah, but if a man can kill you,

SPEAKER_01you don't deserve that. >> Oh, sorry. Roma, let me get your message here really quick. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. >> Roma army donated $200. Thank you. Thank you. >> What these women, much like most women,

SPEAKER_01fail to understand about their bias towards men is that fear rooted in a stereotype isn't bravery. It's just bigotry dressed up in feminism. >> Yo, Roma, thank you so much for your uh message there. Well put. Also, I do see

Brian Atlasyour super chat here. I'm going to get that pulled up. We'll come back to the convo here in just a moment, but I'm going to let this come through. Uh oh, this is uh what these women >> what these women I think it's the same thing. failed to understand about their

Brian Atlasbias towards men is that fear rooted in a stereotype isn't bravery. It's just bigotry dressed up in feminism. Good point. Good point. Thank you, Roma. Appreciate it. Thank you for the super chat. We also have Sean. It's just

Brian Atlastrying to give women yet another leg up in yet another male-dominated space. It's just discriminating against men. Why don't they just focus on doing better background checks and give a safe

Brian Atlasride? Guarantee and mandate dash cams. Yeah. I mean, I think there can be all kinds of employments of different safety precautions on this, but thanks for that. Appreciate >> it. I think dash cams, like if there's a

Jackie (OF Manager)camera in every car, I think it'd make people feel a lot better, >> whether it's man or woman, you know? >> I think if that was mandated, then it would completely eliminate >> the need for a woman besides someone's trauma, but that's their own personal

Brian Atlasthing to work through. >> Thank you, Sean, for the super chat. Really appreciate it. Then we have, hold on, we've got a couple more chats here. Got Roma. These women are doing everything they can to avoid saying it's

Brian Atlasokay when I do it to men, but I'm offended when it's done to me. They aren't intelligent or even feminist. They're bigots in lip gloss. Oh [ __ ] >> Chloe,

Emily (Coach)>> everybody, a single person here is wearing lip gloss. But >> I feel like for 70% of the conversation, we've agreed with Brian. So I don't understand what

Brian Atlas>> I don't know. Also, we didn't we didn't make this policy. >> No, but when I did ask going around the table, I think most of you said, "Yeah, you're okay with it right now." >> I'm okay with it, but like

Nyx>> I mean, we're not pushing for >> It's okay that you're sexist. >> No, we're not. Like, literally, we need this. >> But did all of us say that we agreed? If you wanted a male driver, that's fine. >> So, then we did. >> Yeah. >> One sec. I'll address that really quick.

Brian AtlasWrath nose >> nose piercings may lead to bad decisions or tattoos. discuss. >> Well, isn't it the reverse? Bad decisions lead to no faces and tattoos.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Who Who here has tattoos? Shows show of hands. >> No, I don't. I don't have any tattoos. >> Who has tattoos? Tattoos. Tattoos. Tattoos. Tattoos. >> I love tattoos. >> You have tattoos. >> Is it just me?

Brian Atlas>> Who has uh who has nose piercing? >> I have three nose piercing technically. >> Three, four, five. Okay. All right. That's uh >> I got my first one at 15. >> Me, too.

Brian Atlas>> All right. >> So, uh thank you, Wrath, for that. Um what do you guys think about this, though? Wrath is asking, uh >> tattoos. >> Do nose piercings lead to bad decisions

Emily (Coach)or tattoos? I don't know. >> What's the bad decision in question? >> Maybe the piercings are the bad decisions. >> Yeah. Is it trying to say? Not that I have. I don't really understand like what he's saying personally, but in my

Jackie (OF Manager)experience cuz I'm bisexual, girls with tattoos and piercings usually are way more fun. So, I don't know. >> More fun. >> Okay. >> I mean, not to any of you guys without tattoos. >> Did you say you have tattoos? >> I'm personally offended. I don't

Brian Atlas>> No tattoos. Okay. >> What do you guys think about this though? >> I think a lot of guys think tattoos and piercings again depends. Tattoos

Bailey (Nursing)depends. Piercings depends are red flags. Agree. Disagree. >> Disagree. >> Wait, wait, hold on. One at a time. >> Why would I agree with that? I have

Brian Atlas>> Well, it's you know, you could you could be self-aware like, "Yeah, I'm a red flag." You're wearing a red dress. >> I mean, maybe, but not really. >> Okay. >> I don't think my tattoos are a red flag.

Brian Atlas>> Roma Roma's Chloe Roma is going to come for me for that one. Um, your thoughts? >> I'd say it could be. Yeah. >> Could be. Yeah. Why? Why could it be? >> Uh, more inclined to like irrational decisions. >> Spontaneous. >> Yeah.

Isabella (Bio)>> Or what? No, that's not the right word. >> Impulsive. >> Impulsive. Impulsive. >> It's like you're altering yourself >> permanently. So, show something. >> Okay. What do you think? >> Um, I don't think so at all. >> Is it a red flag? Not a red flag. >> No, I think it's just a way to express

Jackie (OF Manager)yourself personally. >> Red flag. What do you think? >> You're designing your character. I don't think it's a red flag. >> I think everyone has a different cup of tea. >> What's the one on Show us the one on your neck here. >> Oh, sorry. >> That's fine. You're fine. >> Oh, wow. It's a Wait, can you turn more?

Brian Atlas>> Snakey. >> That's epic. >> Oh, wait. Is it a wolf? >> Cute, babe. >> Wait, what? >> A dragon and a snake. >> Does it go down here? And then it goes down. >> Can you turn like all the way around? Other way. Other way. >> Yeah, just Yeah, that way. Turn. And

Brian Atlasthen >> here we'll go like this. >> This is like a Wait, is that a jester mask? >> So, it's a snake coming out of a mask. It's a snake and a dragon and then it goes into a rose in like my spine area.

Nyx>> Dope. >> Cool. Yeah. >> Beautiful. Um, >> but I think everyone has a different cup of tea. Like honestly, doesn't really matter to me. >> Uh, what do you think? Red flag? No. Yes. >> Not inherently, but I can see the association. >> See the Okay, that's fair. Association.

Brian AtlasWhat do you think? >> Yeah, I agree. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Not a red flag. >> Not a red flag. >> Nope. >> Boss. Red flag. >> I agree with them. >> Yeah. >> Maybe. What do you think, Brian?

Brian Atlas>> Uh, so I think it depends, right? It depends on the location. Okay, let's start with tattoos. >> Okay. >> Depends on the location. Depends on the location of the tattoo. Depends on what

Brian Atlasthe tattoo is. Uh oh, there's a really good meme on this, but I don't know if I have it. [ __ ] So, I'll say this though. Here's my position.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> I think here's my view. tattoos for me and I probably for a lot of guys, they're either neutral at best. So, it's

Brian Atlasa neutral or it's a negative. >> Guys, >> no. Uh, like a tattoo on a woman, like if I'm doing this, like a girl I'm trying to date, like that's going to be the assessment. It's either neutral or

Brian Atlasit's a it's a negative. A tattoo is never never >> never positive. >> Never. But hey, neutral is okay. Nothing wrong with neutral. Wait, wait. What do you think about mine then?

Brian Atlas>> I'll get to that. >> He came prepared. >> Uh, piercings. Again, this is going to differ on the piercings, but even piercings, even like an earring or

Brian Atlassomething, neutral or negative >> earrings like all piercings. All piercings. But I'm saying even earrings. That's I'm not like, "Oh my god, I want to [ __ ] her more because she has

Nyxearrings." >> I think we are different. Oh my god, I'm more attracted to her. I'm just like, >> I've never experienced this. >> Experienced what? >> Okay. In my past, guys have been like, "Oh, I love your piercings." Like, it

Brian Atlasmakes me like you more. >> Hold on. Wait. I don't stop. Stop. Stop. Hold on. Hold on. Question for you. Do men lie? >> Yes. >> Wow.

Brian Atlas>> Do Do men lie? >> Sure. Everyone lie. >> Okay. But let me ask you a question. Is flattery an effective strategy for lying? >> Are you assuming that they're lying?

Brian AtlasLike, >> well, so it would never behoove me. Like, let's say I was trying to Let's say I was trying to Mac Let's say I was trying to Mac, you know. Yeah. Mac. I was trying to, you know, put the Mac

Brian Atlasdown on some of the pierced ladies at the table. It would never occur to me to be like, "I [ __ ] hate your piercings." >> I would never say that. I'd be like, "Well, she's got some piercings. She's

Brian Atlasstill hot. Whatever." I'm not going to be like, "Fuck your piercing." That would not be Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. >> That would not be an effective strategy. If I'm trying to, you know, >> well, if it helps

Nyx>> have sexual intercourse with you, wouldn't it be effective? Would not be effective or date you, whatever. >> If it helps your hypothetical, every guy that's complimented my piercings also had piercings themselves. So, I don't think they're lying.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Sure. So, look, I think what By the way, I didn't say it was universal. Like, sure, there's guys >> I know. I was just saying >> who are like more um I don't know what the term they use is is like more alt or

Brian Atlaspunk or whatever. And they're like they're going to be like, "Oh, cool. Commonality like she's kind of she has a similar aesthetic or I'd like her aesthetic, whatever." Uh there's definitely guys who are into piercings, into tattoos, whatever. I think

Brian Atlasgenerally speaking for most guys, they look at a septum piercing, no offense, and they're like neutral. Uh, negative. >> Well, I'm not trying I'm not trying to hate. >> My whole point was just >> most girls look at a guy with a podcast,

Jackie (OF Manager)they're like, >> I don't think it's the same. >> I don't know about this. >> I don't think it's >> I don't think it's the same with tattoos cuz guys, there's a lot of guys that really love a tattooed girl. They love girls with tattoos. They like literally.

Bailey (Nursing)>> Okay, >> that's the I it's in my experience. There are those guys out there. >> I think there's >> no but yeah, here's my question. So like yeah, my tats they're pretty well done, >> right? >> Okay. Yeah. >> Intentional.

Brian Atlas>> Well, like >> so it's like neutral or negative. >> You got What is that one? Show us that one. Can you turn turn? >> I still think it's a >> a badger. And there's [ __ ] crystals

Brian Atlasgrowing out of that. >> And is it What is that? A a sickle. What's that? Is it like a moon? >> Islamic sickle or what? >> Islamic sickle. >> Moons don't look like that. >> It's a crescent moon. >> Damn.

SPEAKER_01>> Yeah, they do. >> That's no moon looks like. >> Anyways, my last name is Badger. That's why. >> Oh, okay. That's cool. Um, >> but like they're well done. >> One second. >> Don't let the chat come through, but we'll continue.

SPEAKER_01>> For donated $200. Told you I would get you back, Brian. Looking forward to the T app conversation coming up. >> Tattoos on women are a red flag. Oh,

Bailey (Nursing)Discord homies. >> Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Appreciate it, man. Thank you. Um, yeah, we're going to get into the T app here in just a sec, but okay, we're talking about tattoos, piercings. >> Yeah. Does it differ if it's like terrible tattoos versus like well done?

Bailey (Nursing)Cuz I feel like mine are pretty well done. Like they're all professionally done. I >> mean, she has money. >> So, I'm just asking what is it? the lines or whatever asking you the question like yeah would this be neutral or red flag. >> So I guess to kind of finish up my

Brian Atlaspoint. So I was saying when it comes to piercings and tattoos at least for me and I think for a lot of other guys it's going to be neutral or negative. >> Yeah. >> Not to say look there's men like she said there are men who like tattoos. I think generally speaking this is the

Brian Atlascase. They're going to view it >> like neutral negative. Now, when it does come to making the differential between neutral and negative, I would say how big is the piece? Where is it located?

Brian AtlasFor example, negative that like across the board, any face tattoos, that's 100% negative. That's fair. >> There's no such thing as it for me a neutral face tattoo. >> No, I agree.

Brian Atlas>> Neck tattoo, no offense, >> Chloe. No offense, Chloe. Chloe, you know, Chloe, no offense, >> Jackie. >> Jackie. >> No, Chloe. She's she's >> I'm like my name is >> uh on the show last wonderful person. But she's she's got a bunch of tat

Brian Atlastattoos. >> The orange hair girl, right? >> No, she has black hair. >> Black hair. Orange hair was sitting here. >> Yeah. So she was sitting next to they both had throat like blast and tattoos

Brian Atlasand it's not a judgment when it comes to uh necessarily like who they are as a person or a value judgment there. I'm talking from a dating paradigm. So from a dating paradigm and we're talking

Brian Atlasabout red flags. Yes, it can be a red flag. Um, so placement. Um, if she has a like a heart on the inside of her wrist.

Brian Atlas>> Do you have one? >> Well, that's a I was That's too big. That's big. That's a big one. I was just like a little teeny heart in a heart. >> So, a little a little one on on the

Brian Atlaswrist or the ankle. That's neutral. >> Okay. So, are mine neutral or red flag? What do you think? You're you're um you're into the negative territory.

Brian Atlas>> You're getting into the negative because of the amount of the tattoos. It's like full sleeve basically and it's going into the hand. Do you have any on your fingers? >> No, just >> Okay. Do you have your legs? I have one

Brian Atlasthere. >> You do have one there. Are your legs tattooed? >> Her whole leg is tattooed. >> Oh my gosh. >> Yeah, we can't we probably can't show it, but uh actually >> Oh, we kind of can. >> Uh smoke. Oh, are you wearing boy shorts?

Brian Atlas>> Uh, yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah, it's fine. Wait. No. Wait. Just stay there. Just stay. >> I'll flex. >> Wait. Can you just put your leg into the table though? >> Onto the table. >> No. No. No. >> Bro, just into under the table. Just put

Brian Atlas>> Oh, is there a camera? >> No, >> she was just like, "Okay, here's the camera angle." Her her just she was spread eagle right. >> You told me to wear >> No. So, we can see it from here. That's

Brian Atlasfine. No, no, you don't have to, bro. Stop [ __ ] spreading the eagle, bro. >> We love the spread eagle. >> Um, no. We saw the We can see the tattoos when your legs are straight. >> Yeah. >> No. >> Yeah, my legs.

Brian Atlas>> It is the amount of tattoos you have. I think it goes. I'm I'm just Hey, just calling it calling it how it is. >> It's in the negative red flag territory.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. I was just curious. >> And uh so there then there's like the type of tattoo, too. I mean, your tattoos are well done. They're clean. The clean lines or whatever. I don't know tattoo lingo, but um but uh

Brian Atlas>> how professional >> where it's just uh yeah, like most guys aren't going to, you know, she's got a little heart tattoo on her ankle or what? Again, they're not going to care. Neutral, but it's never positive. >> Never positive.

Brian Atlas>> No, I was just wondering where I was towing the line. >> Piercings, earrings, neutral. I maybe >> probably negative for most guys. I think most guys going to see the that that

Brian Atlas>> What's a plug? >> Or the gauges. The gauges. >> Yeah, gauges. Plugs. Yeah. >> Um probably >> Yeah, I think uh piercings neutral or

Brian Atlasnegative. Honestly, >> how do you feel about them? >> Uh yeah, >> he says neutral. >> This is my preference. Yeah. >> Neutral, negative >> towards what? >> Tattoos and piercings. >> I've been telling you for the past 5

Brian Atlasminutes. Well, I I'm understanding, but I think for example, it's hard. >> A little st like a stud on the nose. >> Mhm. >> Neutral. >> Yeah. >> Septum. Negative. >> Okay. >> Wait, what about this one? >> Yeah, she's >> What about this one?

Brian Atlas>> Negative. >> Negative. This one. Yep. Negative. >> For real? >> Negative. >> The Medusa. >> Yeah. Crazy. >> Clip piercing. Nipple piercing. Negative.

Nyx>> Uh, surprised me. >> Belly button piercing. belly button >> neutral negative. >> Okay. I think the whole point we were trying to make is just like yeah that's how you feel about like how you think the general public thinks. We just talk to different people then.

Isabella (Bio)>> What about tongue piercing? You like those? >> Negative. >> No good. >> Negative. Yeah. >> Crazy. >> My hand's not spicy like that. Have you ever been

Brian Atlas>> negative? Well, it's it's on the face itself. So, it's just like the aesthetic of it. There's that, but then there's the also, okay, what does this say about the person? What is it? What is it

Brian Atlascommunicating to me? Like, we all kind of make instant snap judgments about people. And sometimes those judgments can be wrong. >> But you can kind of get a little bit of a judgment or a sense of who this person

Bailey (Nursing)is based off of. >> Okay. But let's say most of these decisions happened when I was like 18, 19, 20. >> Okay. You made bad decisions in your past then. >> Yeah. So, like, can you judge me now

Brian Atlasbased off my past bad decisions? >> Uh, >> like if you're making a face judgment. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. And it's in the past. >> Yeah, probably. Cuz I think people repeat their past often times. Not

Brian Atlasalways, but >> not if you're healed. >> There's probably some underlying like I don't know. Um, like for example, would you guys object to me saying the following? Uh, even if I I would not

Brian Atlaswant to date a person who's previously a drug addict, even if they've been clean for 5 10 years. I wouldn't want to date somebody who used to be addicted to heroin. >> Feel like that's valid. That's your

Brian Atlaspersonal >> she's been clean for 5 10 years, but I would look at that and be like, >> I could just date somebody who's wasn't a previously addicted to heroin. But

Jackie (OF Manager)that person you're dating who's never been addicted to heroin could still get addicted to heroin while you're with them. True. So, but also I do think it's valid to have that preference you're taking.

Brian Atlas>> I'm not saying that people who used to be, you know, who used to be uh substance users or whatever are are bad people. But when I'm doing an assessment of who I want to date, I am going to

Brian Atlastake into these like the these things into consideration. Not to say that there couldn't be growth. you know, you can't grow from that. But, but when it comes to tattoos, piercings,

Brian Atlas>> again, just to be clear, a tattoo isn't a deal breakaker necessarily. Like, I will date a girl who has tattoos. There are there is a level to it. Like, no offense to you. I'm not like trying to

Brian Atlasdunk on you or anything. Like, I'd probably unless she'd have to be [ __ ] amazing. >> Like really funny. >> No, that's negative. No, just

Brian Atlas>> important in my opinion. >> Like probably probably if she has a neck tattoo I'm just immediately it's just a disqualifier right away. >> Perfect. >> Right. But you could still work around

Brian Atlasthe hand tats. >> Uh hand tats probably. I mean I have a preference towards minimal or no tattoos. >> Okay. >> It's not 100% a deal breakaker like some of the ones on your arm like I'm not

Jackie (OF Manager)going to be like instantly okay deal breaker just off that. you are heavily tattooed other places. >> Well, >> I think for some guys it's gonna be a dealbreaker. >> Question for you. What if like you met someone and like say like it's winter,

Jackie (OF Manager)they're wearing a turtleneck, you have no idea like how many tattoos they have and you really vibe with them and you end up really liking them >> and then it turns out they have a bunch of tattoos. >> Sure. >> So, are you going to stop talking to

Jackie (OF Manager)them or be unattracted to them just because they have Hello Tattoos or are you going to go off of the vibe? Uh, I mean again, so it's it would depends how many tattoos, >> okay,

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