Anti-Male Red Hair Feminist DESTROYED In HEATED Debate?! Tea App/UBER Reaction! | Dating Talk #253

Date: 2025-07-28

Duration: 8h 35m

Guests

Brian Atlas

BBailey (Nursing)>

IIsabella (Bio)>

JJackie (OF Manager)>

EEmily (Coach)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Asia(guest)

SPEAKER_03Poss(guest)

SPEAKER_04Key(guest)

SPEAKER_05Bailey (Nursing)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Nyx(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_12Isabella (Bio)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Jackie (OF Manager)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Emily (Coach)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 8 guests introduce themselves

Key MomentNyx reveals first relationship was coercive/sexually non-consensual

ControversyBrian argues Uber women-only feature is discriminatory, analogizes to racial segregation

Key MomentTea app hacked exposing 70K women. Brian announces 'Tally' counter-app.

Key MomentKey: held captive 4-5 hours by abuser. SWAT called. He got 3 months.

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Bailey, Isabella, Jackie, Asia, Nyx, Emily, Key, Poss.

Nyx First Relationship SA

Coercive relationship: car rides as leverage, dissociation, non-consensual encounters.

Uber Women-Only Feature Debate

Brian argues it is discriminatory. Analogizes to racial segregation.

Tea App Data Breach

70K women exposed. Brian announces counter-app Tally.

Body Count Round

Poss 50-70. Key 6. Asia ~10. Jackie 15-20.

Key DV Story

Held captive 4-5 hours. SWAT called. Abuser got 3 months.

Transcript

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Emily (Coach)a really fun experience with or like ended up he being like a I dated a guy who was a fitness trainer and now I have a connection with fitness training. I have new friends because there was a guy who brought other friends like you know

Emily (Coach)on their first date which is weird but I met like some really good friends from that like you know if you go in with the mindset dating sucks well sorry your dating experience is going to suck and like again there is real dating

Emily (Coach)exhaustion I get it but like you can't control that. All you can do is control how your mindset about it and how you approach the dates. >> Agreed. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Um, yeah. Look, I don't know. Uh, I don't know. Dating I I think the process of dating where

Brian Atlasyou're like going out dating multi like dating people. Duh. Dating cows, animals, what? >> Like, if you're dating a person, that's

Brian Atlascool. But I'm when I'm thinking of dating, I'm thinking like maybe you're going on a couple dates a week, different people. You're [ __ ] scheduling that [ __ ] People can be flaky, unreliable, scheduling, that [ __ ]

Brian Atlaskind of just annoying. Uh, we have really quick here. Uh, we need to do a couple shoutouts. Venmo Cash App, whatever. Pod. We have John Straight with the big 50 via Venmo.

Brian AtlasLooks like you sent that in uh about two hours ago, man. So, thank you so much. Really appreciate the big 50, guys. W's in the chat for John. And then Troy, he sent in a $10 $10 via Venmo. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank

Brian Atlasyou. Uh, let me see if there's any others. Also, guys, shop.whatever.com. Looks like somebody purchased a t-shirt. Thank you, Bahuba. Thank you, man. Appreciate it,

Brian Atlas>> Bahuba. >> Appreciate it. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Uh, also, why don't we pull up Twitch really quick? I I texted you back, by the way, Nick. >> Yeah, >> just tell me.

Brian AtlasGot it. Okay. Um, okay. Uh, guys, go to twitch.tv/ TV/ whatever. If you're enjoying the stream, if you're watching on YouTube, drop us a follow in the prime sub, guys. 54

Brian Atlasminutes since we last had a prime sub. I need you guys. I think it's bugged, boys. I think Twitch is bugged. Can you guys just do a quick Can we get check a little check? Also, the follows seem to be bugged, too. 3 minutes since the last

Brian Atlasfollow. Can you guys just check if the follows are working? Just hit the follow button. Just test test it out, please. Only if you're not following already. Just, you know, don't unfollow to

Brian Atlasrefollow. All right. And then what else did we have to Oh, guys, read 100 TTS 200. Get them in, guys, if you want. Like the video if you're enjoying the stream.

Brian AtlasWhat the hell? Uh, and then discord.gg/ whatever. Join the Discord. Uh, you know what should we do? Maybe later we'll gift another uh Discord membership >> for what?

Brian Atlas>> Discord. >> Oh, never mind. We don't have to pull it up. having the tie girl on the table. What? >> Huh? >> I don't know. Whatever. It's below the

Brian Atlasthreshold. Uh thank you, man. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Uh okay. And then get those uh super chats pulled when you get a moment. Uh okay. We're

Brian Atlasgoing to get into Let's see. We have actually No, we'll do this. Thank you. Oh, dating is really fun. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, I think there's a

Brian Atlasdifferent experience though. There's definitely a different experience between men and women because I think men unilaterally put in more effort and work during those earlier stages of dating.

Brian AtlasWomen kind of can kind of be more passive in how they approach dating. Wait for men to come to them. Men do all the planning, etc., etc. Not all the time. Look, women, you you can plan

Brian Atlasoverwhelmingly though. I think you guys don't. So rude. Very rude. these women over here just enjoying their passive. Okay, anyways, whatever. Uh, M1 Grand, ask everyone to rate their own looks on

Brian Atlasa scale of 1 to 10. You can't pick seven. Starting with you, >> me? >> Yeah. >> Um, do I have to explain my reasoning? >> No, you can just say it.

Brian Atlas>> Six. >> Okay. Going to you. >> We're going to stop looks. >> Just looks. Yeah. >> Can I pick seven? Can I pick seven and a half? >> Uh, whole can't do fractions. Whole numbers.

Brian Atlas>> Well, I'm going to round up. Eight. >> Okay. Uh, then just going this way across you. >> Six. Six. >> Dang. Um, >> were you going to say 10? >> No. >> Okay. All right.

Emily (Coach)>> Uh, me personally? >> Yeah. >> Six. >> Tired. But >> Oh, I should have started with you, right? You're the 10 from last time. >> 10. >> I should have started with you. And the comments are going to disagree, but I'm

Brian Atlasa 10. >> Uh 10. Still 10. I'm a 10. Okay. What about you? >> Six. >> Like an Oh. >> Oh. Six. >> Six. Okay. >> Like an eight. >> All right. I give myself a five. Um All right. Well, um uh the I always want to

Brian Atlasstart with the 10 because I feel like if a girl's humble with the first the first answer, then the other girls are going to kind of lean towards being humble. Not all the time, but should have started with

Brian Atlasyou. We maybe would have had some more tens at the table if not. Okay. Um, I thought you changed your position on that though. Did you you snip snap snip snap?

Emily (Coach)>> I got alternative perspectives about how men perceive beauty, but I still think of myself as a 10. >> Okay. So, you're make you're differentiating between how you perceive yourself and how men

Emily (Coach)perceive you. >> Sure. >> Okay. Does how do you think men perceive you then? >> Um, I don't know. It was a little funny cuz I was reading the comments on the last video and then I had some who didn't disagree with some of the or

Emily (Coach)didn't agree with the things that I said and said that I was a three or a four and then I had people who did agree with the things that I said who said I was a seven. So, I'm a little bit curious, Brian, about because your one of your biggest

Emily (Coach)arguments or like what we talked about last time was about this objectivity when it comes to beauty and how there might be a general on a societal level

Emily (Coach)objectivity to it. But even within a one podcast, which comes with typically a male-dominated podcast with a bunch of men who are probably coming from similar backgrounds and beliefs can agree, then

Brian AtlasI'm curious about what your response is to that. I mean it was a bit of word salad. Um word salad. >> My response to what what is the question you're asking?

Emily (Coach)>> Okay. So if you believe that there is a general societal view of beauty that is >> universal >> like there's just universal truths to beauty. >> However, something that I noticed on the

Emily (Coach)podcast was when I was looking at people responding to my rating. There were people that were saying three to four and there were people that were saying seven or 10 or whatever it is. And so

Emily (Coach)>> you sure about that one? >> I was and there were other people that me privately >> were watching. Um >> sorry, go ahead. >> And there were also people that were privately messaging me as well. And so

Brian Atlaslike if again if this is all >> what were they privately messaging you? What were they saying? >> Being very complimentary towards me. I will say that. >> Okay. Was there an ulterior? Like again, it's related to her thing when she was

Brian Atlassaying, "Well, men have complimented me about my piercings or my tattoos." It does not behoove a man >> who has a desire to have sex with you to

Brian Atlasever, ever strike down your ego. It would never be in one's interest to be like, "You're an ugly bitch." By the way, that's not directed at anybody at

Brian Atlasthe table. I'm just saying it would never be a good dating strategy. Like I don't know. I'm I'm kind of a a bit abrasive. I would never

Brian Atlasattempt if I'm like, "Damn, this girl's hot. Let me hold on. You [ __ ] ug." I would never be like, "Bitch, you're [ __ ] ugly." No, I I'm going to flatter. I'm not to be clear. I'm not going to s. I'm not going to be a s. If

Brian Atlasshe's doing some stupid [ __ ] I'm going to call her out for it. But when it comes to physical appearance, it's not a good strategy to be not complimentary to a woman's

Brian Atlasappearance. Now, sometimes you can joke and be funny. Like if a girl's like got a [ __ ] killer body, you can go exaggerated with it. Be like, "You're obese." And she'll maybe find that funny because

Brian Atlasit's so abundantly clear she's not obese. But she still might be. That's a That's a 50/50. You still might get [ __ ] up. >> It's kind of crazy work. >> But she might be like, "Okay, she might some girls might find it funny." Like,

Jackie (OF Manager)she's got to be She's got to know she's hot [ __ ] >> BTW, you're obese. Just kidding. But actually, okay. Anyways, >> I think I'd never talk to a man. >> Got quiet.

Asia>> Even if I know that's not true, I think that I literally would be like, >> "Sends on your sense of humor." >> Yeah. >> Like I'm a gym. If someone hit me up and was like, "You're obese." I'd be like, "All right. >> All right.

Bailey (Nursing)>> Back in the gym." >> Okay. I do agree with the stroking your ego, though. It's like if I >> No, but >> it's like if I'm saying I'm great. Yeah. You're not going to be like, "No, you're not." Like that's rude.

Brian Atlas>> You You shouldn't be a suckup. But most guys are going to most guys are going to be compliment. They're going to compliment you, which is fine. I don't think complimenting is necessarily sing.

Brian AtlasIt can go too far where it's like, "Okay, this guy's a doing too much. T too much. >> But most guys are not like if you do have

Brian Atlas>> uh you know certain flaws or you've got certain things like you got tattoo. Even as a guy who doesn't like a girl's tattoos, I've been known to be like,

Brian Atlas"Oh, I like your tattoo." Like, I'm not gonna it's never going to be a position. And I consider myself a very honest person, okay? But you know, >> but just don't say anything. >> You don't. >> No, literally. Why are you pointing it

Brian Atlasout if you don't actually like care about it? Like what? >> Oh, well, now I'm just ruthless. Now I'm ruthless. But yeah, in the past I'd be like, "Wow, >> sick tat." >> Well, how about this? Here's a better

Brian Atlasexample. Here's a better example. A woman who is really invested in her education or her career. I'm as somebody

Brian Atlaswho doesn't give a [ __ ] about a woman's career. I'm not gonna be like, "Fuck your career. Don't care." I'm gonna be like, "Oh my god, you're >> you're great.

Brian Atlas>> You're um studying [ __ ] sociology. Oh my god, tell me about Black Mirror or whatever." You know, I'm not going to talk [ __ ] about her her passion or

Brian Atlaspursuits or her interest. So, >> just her body count. >> Yeah. But I mean, even here's the thing though. Even with that, I mean, I wouldn't want to be with her, but even

Brian Atlasas a guy, if you've got an issue with it, it's not the move to suggest that she's a a hoe. >> Well, yeah, >> you can't if you're trying to be with a girl, you can't call her a hoe. >> Correct.

Brian Atlas>> You can't call her a hoe. I >> feel like that's kind of common sense. >> Yeah, you can't. She could be a hoe. Can't call her a hoe, though. Could be a hoe. Can't

Brian Atlas>> I wasn't trying to do it funny. I was >> you were no it wasn't I wasn't trying to do a funny >> anyways good talk great great talk guys um what were we talking about oh the

Brian Atlasbeauty so okay what was your question uh what am I trying to get at with the beauty thing what was your question >> all that I am saying is that in my life >> whether it was high school boys and

Emily (Coach)college boys being stupid and raiding girls on these little social media pages or now in the in the chat Because honestly I think okay regardless um or in the chat like you know the chat boxes

Emily (Coach)even though we all are from the United States or from similar backgrounds or whatever it is people still can't agree on a number which mean that to me that challenges the belief that there's objective beauty because I think it's up

Emily (Coach)to the individual's interpretations and and attractions. Again that's not how I look at beauty a rel or physical beauty. I just don't view it that way. But if you are going to argue that there are

Emily (Coach)men that feel that way, which I believe that there are, I don't think that that argument holds that it's purely objective or that there is a general spectrum either of like if a certain

Emily (Coach)woman having the general spectrum of what she'll rate in compar

Emily (Coach)two and I've had guys say I'm a 10 and even when they're weren't talking to me or singing on me. >> Okay. So if we were to ask a million men though, there would be an average.

Emily (Coach)>> So I mean what does that mean? >> And there would be there would probably these >> well I would argue then that probably for a majority of people on the planet the average would be anywhere between four to six because there's going to be people that really really like them.

Brian AtlasThere's going to be people that think they're absolutely atrocious and most people are going to fall in between. >> Sure. But you will start to see p for example we could also do it like this if we line we had 10 girls they all look different whatever

Brian Atlasthere would be some men that rank ordered them differently but there you would start seeing certain patterns of

Brian Atlasthe rank ordering as to which which women tended to be ranked higher and which women tended to be ranked lower.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Yes. There are beauty standards, >> right? >> Yes. >> So my argument is that so beauty it's not it's not objective in the strictest

Brian Atlasphilosophical sense in the same way that you know math and physics are objective. Uh but it's also not just beauty is in

Brian Atlasthe eye of the beholder. It's not just subjective. It's not purely subjective. And this is because even across cultures whether it's in Asia, United States,

Brian AtlasEurope, wherever there are uh certain certain components of beauty that are almost there's universal traits

Brian Atlasthat are typically deemed attractive. Stuff like symmetry, facial balance, facial harmony, these sorts of things.

Brian AtlasAlso, it's like if beauty is purely subjective, moving outside of just looks when it comes to humans,

Brian Atlaswhy is it there's universality as it applies to certain things, beauty beyond human attraction? So, a flower or

Brian Atlasa sunset. Why is there universal assessment of beauty when it comes to like a beautiful sunset or a flower? Flowers are universally beautiful in all

Brian Atlascultures, right? So, that would point to something not strictly uh not strictly subjective when it comes

Brian Atlasto beauty. If if there's a universal component where it's like okay why have all these cultures not just

Brian Atlastoday but throughout human history why do we find flowers beautiful

Brian Atlasthere is a universal objective there's objective components to these things so

Nyx>> okay >> well I think part of part of her point wasn't weren't you trying to say like Even if two guys thought you were the same level of attractiveness, they might rate you different numbers because it's subjective.

Emily (Coach)>> Yeah. Partially that. And again, I might not be the best person to argue this cuz my value system more aligns with kind of what you said about the flower analogy that I see everybody as very unique and

Emily (Coach)gorgeous and beautiful people and okay, you can inhale and whatever like >> I'm just breathing. I'm not >> Okay, cool. like you know but like genuinely when I look at everybody at

Emily (Coach)this table and anybody on the comment section or anybody in real life I choose to look at what unique beauty that this person brings and choose to see everybody as a 10. So, >> but we're talking about looks. >> Yeah, I'm looking at

Brian Atlas>> So, somebody can be like inter Okay, you're looking. Okay. Did we should we Okay. Um, who's who's a guy in Hollywood that you could point to and be like,

Emily (Coach)"Wow, that's a really handsome like celebrity crush. Is there any guy?" >> Sure. Like, if you go by my value system, they're all attractive, but if you go by like the ones that like I had

Brian Atlaslike a crush on, then like >> Wait, hold on. Are there men who are you are more or less attracted to? >> I would say like upon like initial look because that

Emily (Coach)>> Yeah. Looks just looks >> okay. Um like sure my hormones respond to certain characteristics or certain traits but like again that's not subjective to just like I don't have

Emily (Coach)necessarily a type in the sense of blonde, blueeyed, tall, whatever. Like I I get attracted to many different people. >> Okay. But you can't make a determination. You can't be like, "Okay,

Emily (Coach)this actor more attractive than this actor." >> I mean, I'm sure like if I can make a list of 50 actors who I've been attracted to and they're all going to again have different traits and all have

Emily (Coach)different skin tones and different heights and different body images. So again, like in that sense, no, I'm not going to pick just like one. >> Genetically, there is like a standard like women are attracted to certain

Isabella (Bio)traits genetically. Do you want a man that has chiseled jawline, sharp jawline? It is proven and it's like natural. Like you want alals that are hetererozyg.

Isabella (Bio)And they these traits, these chiseled jaw lines, you're going to want that. >> Go off Isabella. >> I mean, it's true. >> No, go off. Yeah. >> She's cooking. >> You're right. >> Go off, Isabella.

Isabella (Bio)>> There is some things in us that make us want certain traits. >> Who Who did you vote for in the most recent election? Crazy. >> You didn't vote. >> Okay. Do you are you part of a party?

Emily (Coach)Are you Democrat, Republican? >> Do you one way or the other? >> I would say that I'm I'm tech technically apolitical right now because my parents and like my family was on

Emily (Coach)opposite ends of the spectrum and so I kind of disassociated from pol politics for a long time. Okay. Um, I' I've been listening to things. >> And you think age, like somebody's age can have an impact on beauty,

Brian Atlas>> like somebody who's 30, for example, versus somebody who's 60 >> just just in I realize most people are going to want to date someone their own age for reasons that go beyond just looks. >> Uh, but you would agree that can you

Brian Atlasmake a determination between a 30-year-old and a 60-year-old? Typically, are you going to find 30-year-olds more physically attractive >> if you're from your worldview? Sure. But not >> from your worldview. >> From my No.

Brian Atlas>> Um, okay. Well, perfect. Thank you. This actually sets me up perfectly for my following question. >> Who do you think is more physically attractive? Donald Trump as he currently is or Brad Pitt when he was 30?

Emily (Coach)>> Who's more physically attractive? >> I I just look >> honestly right. I just like I do not care. I I love you. Like >> I I get that you don't care, but you can't even be like

Emily (Coach)>> make a determination on this. >> Like you don't know. The answer is you don't know. >> I just I don't look at it that way. But if I had to pick I I don't know. I guess who is the option other non Donald Trump?

Brian Atlas>> You don't know who Brad Pitt is. >> Brad. Okay. Brad Pitt. I forgot who you said. >> Yeah, young Brad Pitt. So think uh Troy, Fight Club. I don't know if you've seen these movies. Um,

Brian Atlasuh, what was I don't know what else has he >> Yeah, we can just do pictures. Uh, young Brad Pitt. Okay. Meet Joe

Brian AtlasBlack. Uh, okay. And then why don't we do Donald Trump mugsh shot? Let's do that one. >> Crazy. >> Can we do that one? >> Mugsh shot. That's funny.

Brian Atlas>> Let's just do, you know, it's a straighton photo. I feel like it's fair representation. >> Um, all right. So, uh, you just saw Brad

Brian AtlasPitt, young Brad Pitt. He's still, by the way, still handsome guy. Even >> he's what, in his 60s at this point. >> The six of him. >> Brad Pitt's in his 70s. >> Oh, no. Donald Trump. >> Oh, Donald Trump. Uh, who's better

Brian Atlaslooking? >> I don't know. I guess Brad. >> I guess Brad. Really? >> Like I I mean, I'm sorry, but like >> All right. I'm going to get up for a bit. I'm going to let you girls. Is Isabella debate her for I don't know. >> Debate.

Isabella (Bio)>> I need to get up for two or three minutes. So, if you guys want to >> Isabella, you got it. I got You got it. >> Take the lead. >> Yeah, you got it. >> Yes, Isabella. You got it, babe. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Um >> I don't like his argument with age. I

Bailey (Nursing)don't like the argument. Yeah, Brad Pitt's more attracted than Donald Trump right now, but >> come on. >> I don't think that differently. I think >> what if it was a really hot 60-year-old and a really ugly 30-year-old? >> I would go for the hot 60-y old.

Emily (Coach)>> More attractive. >> I don't think like directly correlates with your attractiveness. >> Yeah. And just to clarify, guys, like this is much less about really like that and it's more about like I just with my personal values and morals. Not saying

Emily (Coach)mine are better or worse, but I don't like talking about people in this way or like and I just don't view people this way where I go around thinking about who he's a 10, he's a nine, like he's a let me stir the pot. I do think about it a

Nyxlot. >> Beautiful. You take me too conversation. >> Um I I work customer service. I see people come through my line a lot and I'm like, "Wow, you are ugly." >> But but the thing is like I don't think

Nyxthat your beauty correlates with your value as a person in any way, shape, or form. I have no problem saying that a person is ugly. >> You're going to be treated less than if you're ugly, though, which I think is messed up. But I don't want to walk in your store and that might be a five

Bailey (Nursing)start dating them, >> but then they could become a 10. based on personality. >> Yeah. >> Someone who's a 10 treat you like >> I think I think your personality does definitely affect your looks. Like in my

Nyxopinion, I don't know if guys are the same, but like I don't know. I agree. >> Like in relationships when the rose tinted glasses come off, I'm like ugly. >> Ugly. >> Yeah. It doesn't matter how attractive to I I was to them. Like after I realize that they're a bad person, I don't like them.

Asia>> Oh yeah. >> Yeah. The prettiest person can have an ugly personality and be in zero. Like >> I don't think it >> I think the initial value of somebody Yes. >> you see with your eyes, right? But once you get to know somebody, of course your

Asiaskill changes. >> Yeah. >> So it's not everything, but it is something. Like I'm not going to sit here and be blinded and be like, >> "Oh, people are beautiful." I'm sorry. No. Like cancel me if you want. Not everyone's pretty. Not everyone's handsome.

Asia>> That's just that. But there's nothing wrong with that. And there's nothing wrong with that cuz I might think somebody's cute and you might think they're butt [ __ ] ugly. Like >> yeah, that's what I would say. I don't think it's like necessarily an

Emily (Coach)objective. You are ugly and you are pretty and you should just accept the fact that you are ugly, but it doesn't make you any less valuable. I don't agree with that. Someone's going to find you pretty. Yeah. Again, there's a market for everything. Okay. And I don't I don't agree with like bullying someone

Bailey (Nursing)over their looks. Like you can think someone's ugly, but you don't have to be [ __ ] mean about it. I think people attract what they are. So yeah, like I'm heavily tatted, so I'm probably going to attract more like tatted alt guys cuz that's me. And then

Bailey (Nursing)it's like, >> yeah, someone's tall, they're probably going to attract tall people. >> Mhm. >> I don't attract short people. >> Well, >> and I'm 410. >> I'm 5 foot and I attract short men.

Asia>> I do too, unfortunately. >> I think I tall men see me and they're like, I can throw her around, >> I guess. But then a short guy would say the same thing cuz you're small. >> Yeah, they can all throw me around. They're saying not all of you. And I'm not saying like literally all of you.

AsiaI'm just saying >> Jackie's head run or train. >> No, no, no, no, no, >> no. >> So then I have a question. So when you're dating somebody or going on your dates that you think are fun,

Emily (Coach)right? Yeah. >> You're telling me, >> how do you determine who's a yes or a no if you haven't gotten to know them yet? >> So like what do you mean like when I'm swiping or like when I'm on my first date like oh so I look for a couple of

Emily (Coach)things like number one the quality of their pictures like okay but where are where are they at like are do they look like they have friends do they look like that they're going to murder me in a parking lot I don't know like um because there's certain pictures I don't know if you

Emily (Coach)guys seen them on the dating apps but like where the guys will be in these like hoodies and it'll be super dark and then like they have like these dark circles and this weird look in their eye like no >> if you take a photo from a bottom angle red flag >> I'm not going I'm going to lie to you

Emily (Coach)guys. I know a lot of handsome men who can't who aren't photogenic. >> No men. Most men >> most men aren't photogenic. They don't take pictures. >> Yeah. Exactly. So, I look at like again like how they answer to their prompts I

Emily (Coach)guess like you know and how like what they assign as their like I don't know their political ideologies and all these other different type of things. Like my life changed when I stopped like trying to date who was conveniently attractive

Emily (Coach)and just started dating based on people's values and started b and here's what happens is sometimes you're really attracted to somebody initially but then they you feel you find out they have a really bad personality and they look really ugly. >> They just open their mouth and start

Emily (Coach)hand >> Yes. And then there's some guys like you know who you're not necessarily like you can be like oh like somebody would find him handsome but like but then you get to know him and you start to get really attracted to him. So, I don't see

Emily (Coach)attraction as just like immediate yes or no and then that's forever. I I don't trust my very first instinct of whether or not I like if I'm attracted to them because more likely than not, if your nervous system is on fire looking at a

Emily (Coach)guy, it's because you're scared and your nervous system is on fight or flight. Like the whole butterfly things, like that's how you can probably tell a guy's dangerous and how he's probably a player. >> No, I'm attracted to the worst men and I'm like, "Okay, I need to switch it up now."

Emily (Coach)>> He is. >> Yeah. If you don't feel safe with him, like and that's why they say like safe love is like can sometimes feel boring because if you don't feel safe with him then he's attracting your old trauma and just reliving it. >> Yeah, cuz the risk is fun until it's not.

Poss>> Mhm. >> Did everyone here vote their scale 1 to 10 based on your personality as well or just p like >> Well, the question was you're talking about your personality as well. >> Yeah.

Poss>> But that's not what everyone else voted for. So would your answer change? It was based on personality. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Good times. Uh let's see here. >> Welcome back.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Thank you. Appreciate that. Thank you. Uh let's see. We were going to get into Oh, Nick, I sent you a video we're going to react to. We have a couple videos, guys. We're

Brian Atlasgoing to Logan Paul got in some trouble >> again. Shocking. >> Logan Paul. Uh we're also This is related to the looks thing. Uh before you pull it up, though, Nick, I do have a question. Uh, who here thinks you guys

Nyxknow Lizo, >> the bigger singer gal? >> Yes. >> Uh, do you show of hands? Who here thinks she's beautiful? >> Like right now or like before she lost weight? >> I need a picture. >> Before she lost the weight, was she beautiful? >> I think she's always beautiful.

Asia>> You think beautiful? >> Yeah, beautiful. Beautiful with sparkles. >> Um, can we do >> What does she look like again? >> Uh, can we do a photo? Who is Mhm.

Brian AtlasI don't know. Um, sure. Let's do it. Should we do a photo of Lizo, I guess, Nick? >> Yeah. >> Uh, yeah, let's just do a photo. Get a photo of Lizo for reference. Maybe old old Lizo.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, Lizo. >> She's not not old, but >> AI generated AI >> like before she lost the weight. Lizo, >> pre-weight loss

Brian Atlas>> 2020. Lizo, go off, King. >> Um, uh, scroll down. Scroll down.

Brian AtlasOkay. All right. Sc keep going. >> Keep going. >> Beautiful. >> All right. Show of hands. Is she beautiful? >> I think she's beautiful. Yeah. >> Yes. Yes.

Jackie (OF Manager)>> In her own way, personally, not my type. >> Yeah. I was going to say beautiful. Yeah. >> So, question. If I said that you looked like Lizo, would you be offended? >> I'd be confused.

Brian Atlas>> Confused. I'm not black. >> Well, I look nothing like her and I know that >> because she's fat. >> Yeah, because I'd be confused. >> Probably. >> Oh, yeah. Black. >> Yeah.

Nyx>> Like lightkinn. >> Oh, as black. Wait, you think Wait, what? He just said, >> "Yeah, you could be like, >> "No, because I said I I'd be confused because I don't look like her because I'm not black." >> Anyways, whatever. Um, no, you look like

Brian Atlasher >> in terms of >> body. Again, I'd be confused because that's not accurate. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I would not be offended at all. >> I would. >> Okay. Whatever. >> Uh, we have a video to react to related

Brian Atlasto this. Uh, Nick, if you can pull that up.

SPEAKER_10>> Okay. I want you to rate this woman on a scale of 1 to 10. Oh, 9 or 10 easily. She's stunning. Okay, be honest. Drop deadad gorgeous. Well, what if I told

Brian Atlasyou that you look like her? >> Oh, you think I'm fat? Okay, I want you to >> All right. Uh, yeah, that's kind of, you know, where you let him with the funny

Brian Atlas>> the hippo. I don't know what you Anyways, whatever. Um, Logan Paul. >> Logan Paul. Logan Paul. Uh this guy, you know, he's got he's married. He has a

Brian Atlasnewborn kid or something. Married some woman who dated half of Hollywood. Um supermodel, I guess. >> Who'd he marry?

Brian Atlas>> Dubious air quotes. Um what >> who'd he marry? >> Some Swedish I don't know her name. Some Swedish model or something. Uh let's pull up the video, though. We got the video first.

Brian Atlas>> All right. So, here's what here's what I want you guys to be thinking about. Uh, actually, you know what? Let's just play it. Let's just play it. I won't do a prompt. >> The stroller is going to be assembled in

SPEAKER_11no time. >> This is boring. Nobody wants to watch this. >> I do want to finish this. I have to do this anyways. >> So, finish it quick and then build the other [ __ ] when they're not filming. This is boring.

SPEAKER_11>> She's boring. >> They'll agree with me.

Brian AtlasNo, >> she's pregnant. We don't want any conflicts. Nina says goes. The stroller's going to be

Brian Atlas>> Whatever Nina says goes. Uh, so okay. Uh, any any thoughts there on that interaction? Was that >> Justin Bieber? >> Oh, he was assembling I guess they have

Brian Atlaslike a reality TV show. >> What's I don't know what it's it's on HBO or something. He was assembling a stroller cuz she's pregnant and about to have a kid. >> Does he already have a kid with her? >> No, >> I think this is old. >> So, is this his second kid? Or maybe

Brian Atlasit's old. I don't know. Whatever. >> It's old. >> He was trying to assemble a stroller for the kid and she says, "Oh, it's boring."

Brian Atlas>> With a bit of an attitude. I Well, I don't know. Do you First off, I'll ask a question to the panel. Who here thinks she gave him a bit of attitude? You can disagree. It's okay if you disagree.

Bailey (Nursing)Okay. All right. Thoughts? Thoughts? Is that What do you guys think? What do you guys think? >> Giving Justin Haley Bieber right now. >> What is What is giving Justin? What does that mean?

Bailey (Nursing)>> What does that mean? >> It means just like you can sense the >> like disinterest. >> Yeah. >> Closer to the mic. >> You can just sense the Yeah. disinterest with each other >> from the wife to Logan. Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Justin usually doesn't he love her? I guess >> he loves I don't know. I don't really >> Haley's way Hold on, bro. Wait, now I'm >> They're both lost.

Brian Atlas>> This is a [ __ ] celebrity gossip show now. >> Bro, Haley's [ __ ] way better than Selena. Wait, do you know her? >> Am I going to get in trouble for all the

Bailey (Nursing)Selena stands or some [ __ ] are going to [ __ ] come for me? >> Who's cuter, Haley or Selena? >> Cuter. I say Selena Potter, I would say Haley. >> Okay. >> Scoot into the table on the right. >> What? >> Scoot in.

Asia>> Scoot in. >> Yeah. Just so you're closer to the mic. >> I'm just short and weak. >> So, um, >> yeah. No, disinterest is what it was given. >> I feel like she could have just walked

Nyxout the room. Like >> sometimes he seemed like he was enjoying it. Let him do his thing. >> I don't get what she was yapping about cuz he was trying to build the the what? the stroller >> for the kid. Yeah. >> And then she was like, "That's boring.

Jackie (OF Manager)Build the other stuff." Like, what? >> I think cuz he was recording it, she thought that no one would be interested in watching him build the stroller. >> I have a question. Is what they're recording paying her bills? Like, >> I mean, isn't he paying for >> the producers will cut it if it's

Possboring? I don't I don't know. She just seemed like kind of mean in that clip. I don't get it. >> Yeah. >> I think that's like the point of like the reality show that they have. Not him showing it,

Poss>> but her expressing that she was upset or thinking that people are not going to be interested. Like that drama, that's like what draws people to watch it. >> Yeah. And she was pregnant. So,

Jackie (OF Manager)>> yeah. Normally, she was pregnant. >> Attitude. >> You be grumpy when you're pregnant. I'm tell >> that shouldn't be an excuse, though. >> No, I don't think it's an excuse. I'm just saying like if someone's been pregnant, I understand a little bit. Not

Bailey (Nursing)that I'd ever be that mean. >> Yeah. saying it wasn't entertaining though. Yeah. I don't know. She was doing it for the plot. >> Some men can be really big babies when

Brian Atlasthey're sick. That's all I'll say. >> I think I mean there's a lot of other background context between Logan and that girl. But just off that

Brian Atlasinteraction, I don't know if I want to be too heartless with this. I don't know. That's probably indicative of how she talks to him in other instances. >> Agree. That's a divorce, bro.

Emily (Coach)>> That's a divorce. >> That's a divorce. >> You were so trigger. >> No, literally, you have an application for dating. Your wife has an attitude and you're divorcing her. >> No, your girl can't talk to you that way.

Jackie (OF Manager)>> Are you dead ass? >> Am I dead ass? Yes, I'm dead ass. >> But do you think you you want that? >> Wait, >> you think of it the same way? Like, you can't talk to her like that either.

Nyx>> Huh? You can't talk to her like that either then, right? There has to be a level of respect on both sides. >> No, he thinks about it. >> Exactly.

Nyx>> What was that comment said earlier? Like, oh, it's only okay if I do it to men, but then men can't do it to me. That's how you're acting right now. >> I'm thinking about this. I'm thinking Sometimes a woman needs a little guidance. >> Whoa, whoa. So do men.

Bailey (Nursing)>> Whoa. A little guidance. I don't think you should be disrespectful. >> I don't think you should be disrespectful to anybody, man. >> That goes both ways, right?

Brian Atlas>> Was calling boring disrespectful though? >> Sometimes the leader Sometimes as the leader in the relationship, >> you got to you got to take on a corrective tone.

Brian Atlas>> But what if she's like a savvy puppy at the end? Generally, generally I would say I you should try to have a pleasant

Brian Atlasdisposition and tone towards your partner or girlfriend, boyfriend, regardless of your gender, right? Uh you shouldn't be rude. You shouldn't be

Brian Atlasdisrespectful. In this case, man, she's Here's the other thing, right? Here's why I don't care.

Brian AtlasLogan, he's he's tall. He's fit. He's a good-looking dude. No homo. Uh he

Brian Atlashe's rich. He's successful. He um what else? Rich, successful status, famous. Uh he has some controversy surrounding

Brian Atlashim. He's definitely done some kind of shady [ __ ] whatever. But uh with it, like the crypto thing and like some other controversies, whatever. Overall though, the guy has a lot going for him.

Brian AtlasA lot going for him. probably has his P. He could have his pick really. And I'm like, bro, how this is separate from the video we just watched. How are you gonna

Brian Atlaswife up Damn, bro. She's done she's done [ __ ] so many allegedly many celebrities. She done been with Leo, Leonardo DiCaprio. She done been with

Brian Atlasall these dudes >> right there. But but also her attitude. She's got it. I don't like her attitude. It's not. There's other videos of her, too. But just going off that, she's being really disrespectful to him.

Brian AtlasReally disrespectful just off that video alone. Not even factor in all the other great bro. He could get better. Like Logan could get better. Way better.

Jackie (OF Manager)That's a divorce. That's a divorce. >> So you think your partner should be amazing all the time? They're not ever allowed to get an attitude or get irritated or anything. >> So I'll say this. I think in relationships,

Brian Atlasyou just fart. >> No, that was the chair. >> That was the chair. >> I think in I think in relationships you can show your partner grace. Sometimes people can be frustrated.

Brian AtlasThere can be other circumstances. They can be, you know, maybe when they're sick or they're, you know, uh, having a bad day. Sometimes somebody can be snappy. They don't mean it. I think it's okay to show people grace

Brian Atlaswhether you're the man or the woman in the relationship. However, however, you cannot disrespect your man in that

Brian Atlasway and especially in public. If you want to h if you have a dispute with your boyfriend or girlfriend, wife, husband, >> I mean, look, I know they're doing a [ __ ] reality show, so I guess that's

Brian Atlaskind of baked in, but she's disrespecting him publicly. It's one thing to disrespect somebody privately, but you do it publicly, you can't n >> Well, you have to think if it's if it's

Brian Atlasa reality show, then like what you got to think how private is their life at that point, >> right? I mean, when we're reacting to these clips, you know, I I kind of just take them at face value. I'm not really

Brian Atlasfactoring in like, okay, well, maybe, you know, they're >> ramping it up for the cameras or some [ __ ] But um >> but technically >> she she she done been [ __ ] by [ __ ] Hollywood. >> Okay. But technically if the cameras

Jackie (OF Manager)weren't there >> allegedly >> technically if the cameras weren't there and they were just speaking in that setting in their house or whatever that wouldn't be speaking to him that way in public like you know what I mean? >> Yeah. The whole point of a reality TV show is you're seeing like the private

Asiaside. >> I think for face value if that was your guys' situation is what he's trying to get at, right? Like if say wipe the TV show, like wipe that factor out. If

Asiashe's giving attitude at such a minuscule thing, then what is she doing with bigger things? How is she reacting to bigger things that actually matter? >> That's a good point.

Asia>> I think that for me is what I have an issue with. Call me old school, but I come off very submissive when I'm in a relationship. >> Whether or not, like, don't get me

Asiawrong, I I live by myself. I own a couple businesses. I'm a boss [ __ ] But when it comes to a man, I there's a form of respect that has to be there that she lacks,

Asia>> if that makes sense. And that's that's where I think he's trying to get at. Yes, of course it's reality TV. If you play all that part, like, yes, but if you put that and you put it in the other room, y'all would have been like, what

Nyxthe hell? >> Am I right or wrong? I kind of think that like we're like overanalyzing like a what 10 second clip like I don't I just

Nyx>> obviously like she was snippy that was attitude but my thing is like so what I saw a whole lot of nothing in my mind >> would you talk to your boyfriend like that >> if I was like pissed at him and then I'd

Jackie (OF Manager)apologize later but like I don't think it's a dealbreaker. I don't think that's like >> I don't think it's a divorce. >> I don't think we can base like the way they like their relationship off a 10.

Brian AtlasSure. Sure. Look, I agree with that. I think that's a good approach. You have to give some leeway. Uh I don't think

Brian Atlasa bad moment is going to be necessarily emblematic of the entire relationship. But I mean, to her point, she's willing to do that in public or well, in this case, in front of cameras, sort of

Brian Atlaspublic. I tend to lean towards if somebody will act a certain way in front of other people, >> tend to lean that it's going to be worse privately.

AsiaI think it's going to be like if a if a couple is like yelling at each other in public behind closed doors. >> Mind you, this is with them knowing that there are cameras, >> right? So, she's already watered down to an extent.

Jackie (OF Manager)>> Well, reality TV's fake. I don't know. Yeah. Well, I think that all of this is valid and very true, but if they had nothing but good moments, like who watches a reality TV show that's nothing but good times. All reality TV show is

Jackie (OF Manager)literally like people watch it for the drama. So, like of course like if that's the biggest drama on it then like I don't think it's that bad because like Bad Girls Club like all these other shows like literally which I mean that's

Jackie (OF Manager)not really a good comparison but I'm just saying like if it was just them being happy golucky the whole season like no one's going to watch it. There needs to be some kind of >> something. There's also like what if

Emily (Coach)that was just her one bad moment? What if she just slipped up? I mean, I think compared to a lot of couples on a lot of reality TV shows, that's really not that bad. Yeah. At all. >> And imagine how aggravating it is always having a camera in your face and never having a moment to yourself. Like when you're

Emily (Coach)>> They chose this. >> Yeah. But at the same time, that doesn't mean they can't be human and have human moments and be frustrated about that. Like, you know, and >> yeah, >> pregnancy hormones are no joke, too. That's another thing. >> That was my whole point. I'm not saying it's okay, but

Jackie (OF Manager)>> yeah, >> I understand being pregnant. It's like if you can imagine PMSing. Yeah. Times a thousand. >> Maybe odd man out. But like what she said was useless. She didn't have to

Asiagive the attitude. Like she if he was doing something wrong or like something actually annoying, but she was literally in the other room. She came out to say something and then she

Nyxwas just rude. Like you could have just kept walking to be honest. >> Yeah. And >> that's true. I don't think anyone's disagreeing that she was disrespectful. >> Yeah,

Brian Atlas>> the point is like doesn't matter. >> Word. Okay. Um, let's see here. We are going to

Brian Atlas>> There's another tweet. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We'll get to that in just a sec. Um, I think I had one last thing on the Logan thing, though. >> You want to read the tweet? >> Uh,

Brian Atlasno. No, just the video. Just the video on that one. Yeah, she was kind of being [ __ ] up. That was [ __ ] up. Dump her.

Brian AtlasDump her, Logan. It's over, Logan. Divorce. Divorce her before it's too late. >> Says, "Why would you like to divorce?" >> He should have a woman. >> She called me boring. >> Who? Wait, let's just [ __ ] it. Let's

SPEAKER_08just do the bow video. He should have a woman who who worships him. I have a video of my ex-girlfriend we're about to play

Brian Atlas>> like this. Logan should have a woman. Let's just window tab is fine for this. It doesn't need to be V. Uh All right. Go ahead. Play it. I took this video of my ex-girlfriend after a long check.

Brian AtlasBoom. Huge bow. Did you see the bow? Did you see the depth? [ __ ] amazing. All right. So, I get home after a long day of podcasting. You know, there's my She's going to do my laundry. I uh Oh,

Brian Atlasdinner's ready. Dinner ready. Dinner ready. Not my favorite meal. I mean, there's some [ __ ] asparagus and whatever that [ __ ] just raw tomatoes. Hello. That's actually I dumped her because of

Brian Atlasthat. >> Oh, >> dumped her immediately. The [ __ ] are these tomatoes? Okay, play one more time. Just the B. We'll just >> boom >> boom. Huge bow. You see the depth? [ __ ] amazing. Still had a dumper

Brian Atlasthough. So anyways, uh that's the kind of treatment Logan Paul should get. That's what I expect from my girl. What do you guys think? >> Was that actually your ex-girlfriend? >> Yes.

Bailey (Nursing)>> No. >> Would you rather have someone like that that comes and makes your dinner versus someone that works? Like they don't work at all, but yeah. Dinner's ready when you come home >> versus >> Versus someone that works and >> Yeah.

Jackie (OF Manager)>> wouldn't be able to Yeah. >> That Yeah. So, would you take care of them like financially >> if they're willing to take care of you in other ways? >> Yeah, I'm going to take care of >> Yeah. Clean the house, dinner. >> Yep.

Nyx>> You know what? If it works for the both of you, [ __ ] it. What am I going to say? But me personally, I would never. Absolutely never. I cannot imagine a scenario where I would do that. >> Yeah. Can I Do you have a job currently? >> Yes. >> What do you do for work? Are you

Brian Atlas>> I'm a retail cashier. >> Okay. So, you like greet people when they come into the store? You ring them up. Yeah. Maybe you like fold clothes. Or what kind of retail is it? Clothes shop or >> It's like a furniture store. >> Furniture store. Okay.

Nyx>> Yeah, I fold towels. >> You fold towels? >> Yeah. >> Okay. You ever move things around the store? >> Yeah. They make me do like furniture carry outs and like big ticket items. >> You? >> Yeah. It's really funny. I swear to God,

Brian Atlasit'll be like the tallest guy I've ever seen and then they call me up to the front and I'm like, "Did you need help carrying this dresser to your car?" >> Nice. >> Yeah. >> I love that. Um >> and usually they just watch me do it and I'm like, "Okay." >> Yeah. Question. Would you this dynamic

Brian Atlaslet's say you met a great guy and he was a high earnner >> million dollars million million a year >> so that's enough you don't need to work right

Nyx>> but he wanted that do you do it then >> okay I mean in a scenario that like he is literally so rich I get anything I want I'm literally a princess all I have to do is just

Brian Atlas>> No not a princess >> then no I'm not [ __ ] doing it >> not a princess you don't get anything you want >> indentured servant >> but he takes care of you. >> Then he's not taking care of me if I don't get what I want. >> That's Hold on. >> Wait. No. What do you mean by that?

Brian Atlas>> What? That is not Hold on. >> No. What do you think that I mean when I say I get what I want? >> You said he was taking He was buying you all this [ __ ] >> I don't expect him to buy my [ __ ] I expect him to like pay he's paying for the rent.

Brian Atlas>> You guys are living together. He's paying for food. He's paying for trips. Paying for vacations. Taking care of the bills. >> Yeah. So, I get everything I want. >> Oh, okay. Okay. I thought you meant like when you said >> you thought I was just asking for money

Nyxlike gifts. >> Yeah, you said come on. Okay. Come on. >> If if it's if he wants that level, he's got to spoil me a little bit. I'm not going to be like

Nyx>> I'm not going to be like a Brad, but like come on. Like I don't know. I need so quick. Like, okay, there's a difference between being like a stay at home girlfriend, stay at home wife, and whatever the [ __ ] that video was. Like,

Nyxthat was literally her worshiping him. I'm not doing that unless he spoils me. Like, legs don't move that fast. >> Like I'll be I'll be a stay-at-home wife for like less than that but not >> that you're not going to bow.

Asia>> And I'm Asian. >> That's the wrong kind of Asian. I'm not doing that. >> Like are you a king? >> Kind of Asian. >> Yeah. >> What kind? >> Filipinos don't bow like that. >> Oh, you're Filipino, too. >> Yeah. Okay. >> We bless. We don't bow. >> Yeah. I'm not going to mono him either.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. I'm not going to [ __ ] mono my >> I'll have a white girl doing that [ __ ] A white girl can do that. Doesn't she doesn't have to be Asian. Good. >> I was just making a joke, but yeah. >> Oh, okay. What else? Uh, okay. Anybody

Jackie (OF Manager)else? Any thoughts on that? Not Not cool. >> I feel like I have the same take as her, but also like I'm not going to do like all that for sure. >> Do you still want her to do laundry for you on the first date? >> Yes.

Emily (Coach)>> First date. >> I think a girl should walk >> should do my laundry on the first date. >> You're going to drop her in your house. >> You take her home to do your laundry. You're asking her about her sex life. She's already filled out an application,

Emily (Coach)>> right? >> And you wonder why dating sucks. >> No, literally. >> No, you know what's funny? >> Children do my laundry. >> It's funny cuz like we could joke about that and I'm like, "So, you'd let her in your house on the first date,

Jackie (OF Manager)>> right?" Yeah. >> To do your laundry. >> Sure. >> If a girl just let all the guys in her house on the first date, she >> It's kind of scary. Kind of a big risk to take >> for her. >> Yeah. >> Good thing it's my house then. No, I

Asiajust mean like on her dates if she was like, "Oh, I need a guy to come over and do my laundry." >> I'm not going to lie. >> As someone who's like unlearning hyperindependence,

AsiaI wouldn't do that to that extent. Like I'm not bowing and I'm not like She literally looked like a golden doodle. Like her tongue was damn near out. >> Yeah, that's great. >> No, I'm cool. But honestly, like my

Asiaculture to be honest, >> I would serve his plate. That to me is normal. >> Cooking food. Yeah. That's not like those things are normal to me. >> Laundry. Cool. If I'm a stay at home wife or mom, >> I'm doing everyone's laundry. You're

Possdoing the chores in the house. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I mean, >> oh, you did you have something, pause? >> Oh, I I found that really funny because it actually is part of my cultural jabal. Um, and I do have a golden

Asiadoodle. >> Oh, sorry. >> But like I've never So, I've never bowed in my life. So, to me that's just random, you know? Like my culture, it's a different like movement, >> but you only do it to elders.

Brian Atlas>> We just fall into trap after trap after trap. >> For real. >> This isn't like this is the the bow thing is not like a fetishization of like Asian culture. It's something that white people can do.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, for sure. It's just not normal. >> Like Yeah. Yeah. I get it. It is for Western culture. It is a sort of a a what's a good word for this?

Brian AtlasUnorthodox request. It's eccentric. >> Uh but I'm an eccentric guy. So, uh but >> I don't know. To me, it's kind of like with the folding the laundry on the

Brian Atlasfirst date. Yeah. >> Yeah. She can do it. >> She can. She Look, I'll say this, right? >> I feel like a lot of women have a

Brian Atlasproblem whenever men say, "Women should do X. Women should cook. Women should clean. Women should make me a sandwich."

Brian Atlaswhatever it is, right? We have a lot of issues with putting shoulds on women, but y'all put shoulds on men all the time. Like, I don't know on this

Brian Atlasquestionnaire, men should pay for first dates. Maybe some of you don't care about this, but a lot of women do. One, two, okay, three.

Brian AtlasOh, wow. Okay. Only three of you say men should pay on first dates. A lot of women though I maybe it's 50% of women would make the affirmative statement men should pay on first dates.

Brian AtlasWell, what's the entailment of that? So, I just want a girl to do this effortless. Any girl can do it. You don't need to go to classes. You That shit's easy. I mean, I can give you some

Brian Atlasfeedback. Some of y'all done [ __ ] up your boughs. Like, you can [ __ ] that [ __ ] up like do it all weird and [ __ ] but I I can It's easy. Boom. Intuitive. Simple. do it.

Brian Atlas>> That shit's intuitive. It's easy to bow. It takes 3 seconds. Anybody can do it. When you when a woman says men should pay for first dates, what you're Let's say the guy works uh a labor job,

Brian Atlasphysical labor, and he makes $20 an hour. I think it's reasonable on a first date a guy's going to spend, you know, if he takes you to not a super fancy place, but takes you to a nice place

Brian Atlaswhere, you know, you maybe get an appetizer, main course, one or two drinks, dessert, that's like a hundred bucks. If we're just looking at what he's paying for you, say he's pay, you

Brian Atlasknow, splitting in half, 50 of it is towards you. If he makes $20 an hour and your portion of the meal is $50, you're asking him to work two and a half

Brian Atlashours and who know he's [ __ ] digging holes and [ __ ] He's he physically laborious job. That's a really big ask

Bailey (Nursing)on the guy. You You're saying you need to work two and a half hours? I don't know, man. I don't know. You ask me out though. It's like if they're

Brian Atlasasking you out. >> Okay. What about it? >> Then it's like >> I you agree with that? Well, here. Let's test this out super quickly though and

Brian Atlassee if it if it uh makes sense. >> Of all the men who or excuse of all the first dates that you've been on, >> who asked? >> Usually them? >> 80% 90%.

Brian Atlas>> I would say like >> 100%. >> 80% >> 80%. What about you, Isabella? >> Um, typically the men ask. >> Give it a percentage. >> Uh, haven't been on many dates. Um, >> if you've been on two dates and the guy

Brian Atlasasked you two times, 100%. >> Okay, we'll say 80%. >> What about you? Do you ask the guy or does the guy ask you? >> I would say also like 80% probably.

Brian Atlas>> What about you? Do you ask guys out? >> No. >> Have you ever Have you ever asked a guy out? >> No. >> Okay. How many How many How many first dates have you been on? >> Many.

Nyx>> Uh, a couple dozen. A hundred plus. First dates. First dates. >> First dates. >> Yeah, first dates. >> Like >> couple dozen. >> Yeah. >> Okay. What about you? >> Like three dates, I think, and they all asked.

Emily (Coach)>> They all asked 100%. What about you? >> I'd say 50/50, but I liked the dates quality better typically from when the guy asked me out. >> Sure. What about you? Uh, >> I would probably say about 90%. Have you ever asked a guy out?

Brian Atlas>> I have maybe. >> First date. First date. Not like you've been dating a guy for three months. Hey, you want to get dinner? No, >> I have once. >> First date. Okay, pause. What about you? >> It's like 90 95%

Brian Atlas>> the guy asks. Okay. Uh, so to her point, and mind you, we have two girls here who've never asked a guy out ever, but they've conveniently managed to be in like multiple had multiple

Brian Atlasrelationships, been with different guys. So, it's kind of like a really privileged convenient position to be in. Like, you've never initiated ever, but you guys have you've been on dozens of

Brian Atlasdates, you said. So, it's like this idea that well, whoever asks should pay. Well, it kind of conveniently ignores that women don't. Like, this would be a

Brian Atlasa solid line of argument if men and women asked each other out comparably. Like, if it was 50%, I would even grant it if it was like 6040. Like men asked

Brian Atlasout 60% of the time, women asked out 40. It's not It's almost I want to say it's 95 99% of the time. >> Willing to split though.

Bailey (Nursing)>> I always come with a card and I have money. The thing is that so if they put their card down, >> I'm like, "Hey, you want to split?" >> Yeah. Every time I've like every time they've asked me out and then they pay,

NyxI've I've never just gone into it with the expectation that like I will not pay. I always say like, "Do you want to split?" or like every time I order I ask if that's okay or I choose the cheapest thing on the menu and you know like later on in the date if we want to get

Brian Atlasice cream later I'll be like you want me to considerate but a lot of women do have that expectation expect and a lot well let's ask this what the most expensive thing >> no no the the expectation that the guy

Brian Atlaswill pay for the for the date let's ask this those of you here I know not not all of you maybe some of you are fine going 50/50 or what up paying your own bill if the guy

Brian Atlassay that you you go out for dinner, whatever, and he's not screwing you over like it's not some like super fancy place that you wouldn't otherwise go to. Yeah. No, you get you guys get like a mid-r You go to

Brian Atlasa mid-range place. Waiter comes two check. He says two checks. So, he's going to split he's going to split the bill with you.

Brian Atlas>> Are are you going to see him again? >> Sure. No. >> Was the date good? that. Yeah, >> it was okay. It was good. It wasn't like, "Oh my god, I'm [ __ ] head over heels," but it was good. It was a good day.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, so that's fine. We have had a lot of girls on the show who say, >> "If he doesn't pay for the date, there won't be a second one." A lot of women have said that. >> I think that's just like an outdated way

Emily (Coach)of thinking. Like, you know how guys also have a lot of like outdated dating takes? So do women. That's part of it. I don't fully agree with >> it's not a make or break any for particularly the type of guys that I

Emily (Coach)date. They are have the provider I want to be a husband. I want to be a um a father mentality and they genuinely enjoy >> taking care of me >> genuinely. It's not something that they're expected

Emily (Coach)to look for. >> Yeah. And I feel most like in my feminine and like most like desired and the best. that that doesn't apply for every woman just like that doesn't apply to every man. But um I feel that my sexiest self and my most desired self

Emily (Coach)and my most free self when my man is taking care of me and he appreciates me and I appreciate him. I don't I don't feel entitled to him to pay for me, but I appreciate it deeply. And again, like I said previously, I make sure to show

Bailey (Nursing)up to the date in a way that he'll also enjoy his his time with me, too. >> But >> yeah, like you're not going to show up to a date just looking like a bum. Yeah. Show up to a date, free dinner, you know. >> Sure. Yeah. Like that's the problem.

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