Anti-Male Red Hair Feminist DESTROYED In HEATED Debate?! Tea App/UBER Reaction! | Dating Talk #253

Date: 2025-07-28

Duration: 8h 35m

Guests

Brian Atlas

BBailey (Nursing)>

IIsabella (Bio)>

JJackie (OF Manager)>

EEmily (Coach)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Asia(guest)

SPEAKER_03Poss(guest)

SPEAKER_04Key(guest)

SPEAKER_05Bailey (Nursing)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Nyx(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_12Isabella (Bio)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Jackie (OF Manager)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Emily (Coach)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 8 guests introduce themselves

Key MomentNyx reveals first relationship was coercive/sexually non-consensual

ControversyBrian argues Uber women-only feature is discriminatory, analogizes to racial segregation

Key MomentTea app hacked exposing 70K women. Brian announces 'Tally' counter-app.

Key MomentKey: held captive 4-5 hours by abuser. SWAT called. He got 3 months.

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Bailey, Isabella, Jackie, Asia, Nyx, Emily, Key, Poss.

Nyx First Relationship SA

Coercive relationship: car rides as leverage, dissociation, non-consensual encounters.

Uber Women-Only Feature Debate

Brian argues it is discriminatory. Analogizes to racial segregation.

Tea App Data Breach

70K women exposed. Brian announces counter-app Tally.

Body Count Round

Poss 50-70. Key 6. Asia ~10. Jackie 15-20.

Key DV Story

Held captive 4-5 hours. SWAT called. Abuser got 3 months.

Transcript

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Asia>> I don't know. Ask them that. >> Okay. But >> companionship. >> I was going to say I was going to say the the man if he values something else then it is what it is. Like if he wants to be a husband, if he wants to be a

Asiafather, >> cool. >> Then there's that value. But if he doesn't care, then >> Wendy's saying that and then they don't care in my experience. >> I don't know. I know I know a bunch of great men. >> Yeah, >> I'm I'm all for it. They want to be

Asiahusbands. They want to be family. Like they're family men. So not even there. Like even though women throw themselves at them, >> they're still not having it. They can say no, too. So I mean,

Brian Atlas>> it just depends on that man's value. >> Yeah. >> And what he values. >> So back to the virgin thing. So girl, >> so what was your question? Like why you're asking why men want prefer

Jackie (OF Manager)virgins or whatever. >> I just I don't understand why you would want a virgin specifically why that's as long as someone's clean in my opinion. It doesn't matter how many people they've slept with cuz like even we

Jackie (OF Manager)could go the take that like I mean someone could sleep with one person have an STD versus like someone that's slept with like 50 people but the difference is if they're clean >> they're probably they're more than

Brian Atlaslikely not always the case going to be more more like they're going to be better in bed. >> And haven't you made arguments that men should have higher body counts? >> No. >> Never? >> Nope. That's another podcast that makes

Brian Atlasthat argument. So what I've consistently argument argu argumented >> argued >> argued uh I don't think promiscuity is good in men or women. >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> I don't think men should be promiscuous. Don't think women should be promiscuous. Uh this is kind of just in terms of on an individualistic level but also on a societal level. I don't think it's good for society and I don't think it's good

Brian Atlason the individual level. However, the the difference I I do point out between men and women when it comes to promiscuity is well, it's a couple

Brian Atlasthings. I think that generally speaking, as a man, if you have been promiscuous, you have been with a lot of women. Women

Brian Atlasdon't aren't going to assess you as harshly than the reverse. So men are going to use this, they're more likely to use this as a metric for either disqualifying you or just not being as

Brian Atlasinto you or being an issue in the relationship. Women are far more forgiving of male promiscuity than men are forgiving of female promiscuity. The

Brian Atlasother kind of distinction I would draw is that in order for a man to be promiscuous

Brian Atlasthat requires some degree of skill or being attractive in some paradigm or metric

Brian Atlasas a woman to have a high body count, you just got to show up. You don't you don't even have to be attractive. But like for a guy to be a a [ __ ] he's

Brian Atlasgot to be he's bringing like something like he's he's either got charisma, he's got some like some personality, or it could be status. It could be or he's just he could just be good-looking. Um

Brian Atlasit could be all these things. But a woman who's just ugly, terrible [ __ ] personality, she can she can out compete. She can [ __ ] more dudes than

Brian Atlaslike the top most attractive guys. >> Yeah, men are easier. Yeah. >> Yeah, men are easier, >> right? But so >> I guess it is a component of >> that's what he was saying >> like the the there's a difference here

Jackie (OF Manager)in the judgment like any woman can be a [ __ ] Most men cannot be [ __ ] >> Well, I have a question. So, do you think this hookup culture is just like new age or do you think this is

Brian Atlassomething that's going on for a long time? You think we've like lost the idea of like meaningful sex? >> I mean, I depends how far back you want to go. People want to point to like social

Brian Atlasmedia and dating apps. I think people been, you know, it's it's actually funny. Somebody convinced me recently to uh I saw it back when it came out, Sex in the City. Like, if you watch that, people are

Brian Atlasgoing to clown on me for I watched a couple episodes. Okay. >> Good for you. They were they were promiscuous in the show and that show was reflective of what was going on in that time period.

Brian AtlasObviously, it's a fictional show that's, you know, a bit exaggerated or whatever, but people were moving like that back in the early 2000s before social media,

Brian Atlasbefore dating apps. And then, you know, I can't speak to this, but 90s, 80s, '7s, people were promiscuous back then, too. Um, >> I mean, we can go as far back as like

Brian Atlasthe Mongol like empire. >> The Mongol Empire. >> These Mongolian women just be slutting around. Is that what you're saying? >> Am I stupid? Maybe I'm using the wrong term. >> But like way back in the day, literally

Brian Atlaslike people were >> Well, the big factor I would say is the big factor I would say. >> Okay. >> I mean, yeah, there's pro there's been [ __ ] throughout history. >> Bo show. She was a hoe the show back in

Brian Atlasback in the 1500s, right? >> There's always been prostitutes and but I think the big shift was in the 1960s with the introduction of birth control.

Brian Atlas>> So, prior to birth control when a woman had sex, there's a there's like a ri risk of she could get pregnant. Now, women have way more control over that. Uh, which has kind of opened the

Brian Atlasfloodgates for promiscuity starting in the 1960s. And I'd say that's the big thing. You could say like, you know, certain, you know, the feminist movement, that's

Isabella (Bio)a component to it. The destruction of the, you know, the family. >> There were condoms before like birth control and implants and stuff like that. And there's always pulling out and natural birth like natural planning too of a woman.

Brian Atlas>> And then there's also like uh social stigma and the generalized uh society at large had a much much harsher shaming culture surrounding

Brian Atlaspromiscuity. Uh like for example women getting pregnant out of wedlock. Massive social stigma in the past. Now no social

Brian Atlasstigma really. uh women um whether it's getting pregnant, whether it's just having a like a sexual premarital sex. Premarital sex, everybody has premarital sex, but that used to be

Brian Atlas>> mostly >> and I'm not saying I'm not saying it's like I'm not necessarily saying, okay, we got to go back to you know, you can never have sex before marriage. I'm not necessarily going that farther. Although there are people who do think we should

Brian Atlasreturn to Why are you shaking your head, Nick? Okay. All right. He's with it. Uh he's with it. But uh he's a virgin. Just kidding. >> Or are you Nick or Yeah, he's a virgin.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, really. >> Uh by the way guys that Nick is back. Dy's in the chat for Nick. Um >> he's in the chat. >> Look, but I'm not I'm not like sitting here like a prude. I'm

Jackie (OF Manager)>> Yeah. That actually I have a question for you. So I know we're talking on the base of like dating, right? You wouldn't date someone that's promiscuous. >> But let's just say like you had a really close friend that's a girl. Sure. >> How are you going to feel about her

Jackie (OF Manager)being promiscuous? Like, are you like, how does that affect your feelings of your friendship and who she is as like a person? >> It's funny you assume that >> you have girlfriends, >> female friends, but um

Jackie (OF Manager)>> Well, I'm just asking like if >> uh would I be >> friends with like a [ __ ] >> Yeah. Or like how would you feel about

Brian Atlasher? Would you respect her still as a friend even though her like decisions don't align with someone that you would actually date? Cuz you're not going to be dating her. >> I mean, I I keep a really pretty close friend group and so this would apply to

Brian Atlaslike >> I'm not trying to rack up like a bunch of friends, like male friends of of any gender.

Brian AtlasUh, I don't really have I have uh female acquaintances, women I work with who I have who I think I have

Brian Atlaslike a a good What's that? Uh, Lewis, thank you for the gifted 50 men. Thank you. >> Like I have good uh working relationships with women. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Uh I wouldn't say but I have very few male friends too. I'm just saying like what if >> I have some really like I have a few super solid male friends. Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> But I don't have like like a huge wide net of friends. And I think this is something that happens as you get older. You know, a lot of people get,

Brian Atlas>> you know, their friends get married, they have kids, >> you start to, you know, some of the friendships start to dwindle. People move away. They're focused on their career. So, >> sure. I wasn't asking how many friends

Jackie (OF Manager)you had. I was just curious like about like if you had a girlfriend. That's it. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I kind of went on on a bit of a >> Sorry, I was trying to be real. >> Side quest.

Brian Atlas>> Uh so, okay, your to answer your question, I have a female friend who she's a hoe. >> Yeah, >> she's a hoe for show. >> Yeah, she's a hoe for show. >> She's a hoe for show. >> Yeah. >> Uh I don't know if I I just

Jackie (OF Manager)>> like she's been there for you through everything. Like does her what she does in her own personal sexual life does that affect of how you think of her as a person if it has nothing to do with you?

Jackie (OF Manager)>> In this hypothetical uh I don't know if I'd be friends with a hoof for show. >> Like >> you wouldn't even be friends with them. >> Say if you've known her since like you were a kid, you'd stop being friends

Nyxwith her because she sucks too many dicks. >> Probably. >> You think it you think it devalues them as a person? as a friend? Possibly. Yes. I would >> Do your friends have high body counts?

Brian AtlasYour guy friends, is that is that like something you ask them? Like, oh, what's your body count? >> No, I don't think um I'd say most of my male friends, they're >> virgin. >> They're not virgins, but they've had like, you know, couple couple

Isabella (Bio)girlfriends, couple one night stands here and there. They're not like probably in the hundred plus body count range, but yeah. >> And what if she had a couple one night stands? That's that's just what she

Brian Atlasdoes. Is that okay? Or >> look, you got to understand >> like >> I'm I'm in my mid30s. >> Like friendship is not a prior priority for me, >> okay?

Brian Atlas>> Like I'm very focused on my business. >> A lot of friends that I and I still keep in touch with. They don't live in my city. They moved away. They have family. They have kids. One of my really one of

Brian Atlasmy closest friends, I've known him for nearly 20 years. He's got a wife. He's got like three, four kids. >> I don't I talk to the dude still, but I don't see him all the time. He's He's

Brian Atlasbusy. I'm I'm busy. >> Uh so having like I'm not really prioritizing friendships at this moment, but um I do have friends and I talk to them and I see them here and there. >> You have one night stands and you're

Isabella (Bio)still friends with them. So you could probably be friends with a woman who has a couple one night stands. I'd say >> I just >> they have their own lives and whatever have their >> Well, here's I think here's the it's not

Brian Atlasthat I'm necessarily opposed to being friends with a woman, but one of the >> one of the and like one of the

Brian Atlasboundaries I think a lot of people will have in a relationship is having friends of the opposite sex. So, I think a lot of guys, if you have male

Brian Atlasfriends, could have not all men are going to have an issue with it. A lot of men are going to have an issue with it. So, if I'm like contemplating having a friendship with a woman >> and this friendship hinges

Brian Atlason if she gets a boyfriend or gets married, I feel like that's a very flimsy the the friendship could be strong. But

Brian Atlasif that friendship is going to be cut off because her boyfriend, who I think rightfully is going to have precedence over my friendship with her, I'm going

Brian Atlasto get cut cut off from the friendship. Why invest my time and energy into a friendship when there's like going to be a point when she gets married? There's going to be an impropriy for us to be friends.

Isabella (Bio)I don't think that every man necessarily restricts their girlfriend, their wife from having male friends, but >> I think it's a legitimate boundary either way. >> Have you been cut off because of that reason? Have any of your female friends gone married and you're just not talking

Brian Atlasto them no more? >> Again, I've not made it much of a habit. >> Honestly, I've not made it much of a habit to I have like fe uh I have women who I have good positive acquaintance relationships with.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> But again, I don't I wouldn't say I've had like a female friend for like years and years. There's girls I hung out with knew and it was kind of like friendly of

Jackie (OF Manager)course but uh yeah. >> Well, I guess it's always a risk even with men friends though like what if their wife they get doesn't like you and then they have to cut you off. It's you're taking the same risk. >> Sure. Yeah. As a woman

Brian Atlas>> it's just as possible. >> Women can also have this boundary in their relationships. They're like I'm not comfortable with you >> spending time with this girl. And then of course friends, right? We can get

Brian Atlasinto what a friend is. >> So, show of hands. Have you ever friend-zoned a guy? >> Oh, yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Great. I don't want my girlfriend hanging out with a with a dude who previously wanted to [ __ ] her. >> Sorry. >> Who doesn't want to [ __ ] her? >> Sorry, but y'all friend-zone dudes. You

Brian Atlaskeep dudes in the friend zone and they're waiting for their moment to [ __ ] you. So, and maybe you don't want to [ __ ] him, but like you friend zone a guy, he's your friend. Most of your male friends, I guarantee you all the women

Brian Atlashere, I know some of y'all are in relationships. If you bust out your phone right now and your male friends and you haven't hooked up with them in the past, you text them, "Hey, uh, what

Brian Atlasare you doing tonight? Netflix and chill or whatever." They're gonna fight that you're if you make [ __ ] available, they're going to take it up. >> Is that your friend? >> Like if I offered a male friend some

Brian Atlasdick. >> They might take it. >> If I offered None of my male friends would accept dick. >> You'd be surprised. >> I could offer dick on a silver platter. >> Well, they're not attracted to. >> Hey, Jacob, you want some dick? He's

Jackie (OF Manager)like, "Bro, what the fuck?" >> But I don't think that's the woman's fault. Like I think a lot of women can relate to the fact that like I don't know there's not this sounds so conceited because maybe this isn't

Jackie (OF Manager)universal experience but like as a cute girl >> Mhm. >> there's not a lot of men that we're friends with that wouldn't at least take the opportunity to [ __ ] them. It doesn't mean they're not your friend, >> right? So they could be sexual beings.

Brian Atlas>> But so there's different different levels. So, the first level that I proposed was the friend zone >> where it's like this guy has previously expressed romantic or sexual interest in you.

Brian Atlas>> Absolutely not. >> If at any point that's been the case, no, I'm not going to be comfortable with my girlfriend hanging out with a dude, being friends with a dude that's just he's waiting for me to break up with

Brian Atlasher. >> He's waiting for that relationship to be over so he can be a little slime ball and try to get with her. And then but then there's also girls who keep their exboyfriends >> as friends.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Yeah. >> That would you guys agree at least you can get me that >> a lot of people willain remain friends with next. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's absolutely not. If I'm dating a girl, you can't be dealing with some dude that

Jackie (OF Manager)>> is already >> has been balls deep in you already. That's crazy son. >> No. And I do get that. I think there are levels to it. You know what I mean? But I as a like I do understand that general idea like I think there's exceptions to

Emily (Coach)like everything depending on the case of course but I think generally that makes total sense. >> Yeah. And I think that boundaries are the things that matters here is like if there's a guy that expressed interest in me then out of respect and love for him

Emily (Coach)like if I had to see him as a friend I'm going to emotionally distance myself from him. And like if there's I actually experienced this in my relationship where there was a girl like we were both attractive people who had people interested in them and so we had

Emily (Coach)boundaries in the relationship of number one we never vent about our partners to this person or any of our friends. Um number two like you know having emotional distance where you can go grab a lunch like you know you can have a

Emily (Coach)phone call here and there but like there if you feel like somebody is bringing that energy towards you place them in the boundary. Yeah, communication is so important.

Emily (Coach)>> Yeah. So, like I'm okay with my partner having friends, but I'm also I keep them accountable and myself accountable that if those friends start to try to get into some lines then are that they're not meant to, then cut it off or we're not going to be together.

Bailey (Nursing)>> Yeah. >> Question. So, if you've hooked up with someone and they're your friend after, is that okay or no? >> What do you mean? like they have sex and then they >> hook up with someone and then you're

Bailey (Nursing)still in a relationship >> who was your friend >> and then they're still your friend but you guys just slept together like you have hooked up >> you still be friends with them and get in a new relationship without that being tainted

Brian Atlas>> well again it depends on the new partner's >> preference >> uh boundaries on this some people are like >> yeah be friends with your ex even some people are cool with that

Brian Atlas>> in my case I wouldn't be cool with that uh if I'm generally very much against male friends across the board, but she [ __ ] him. Yeah. No, you can't be friends with him.

Jackie (OF Manager)>> Okay. >> Can't be friends with him. >> I mean, you can, but like I'm not going to date you, I guess. >> So, I am curious and I apologize if you said this already. >> Um, so you specifically, so are you against whoever you are with to have

Jackie (OF Manager)male friends, or is it just people they've hooked up with before? >> All of the above. You don't want them to have any male friends. >> No male friends. >> Where does that come from? >> What if they've been friends since like they were a kid?

Brian Atlas>> Uh look, I mean again I think there is some differentials here. I think uh I think women can be friends with guys. >> Mhm.

Bailey (Nursing)>> Men men to a lesser degree. >> The guys want to find So it's the guys you don't trust. >> Excuse me. >> Sure. I think that's fine. I guess I

Brian Atlasthink men just practically speaking the men can genuinely have no interest in a woman, right? And they can be friends

Brian Atlaswith them, whatever. But I think it's more so the case like if a guy is a friend with a girl, there can often be an underlying romantic or sexual

Brian Atlasattraction or ulterior motives >> on his part or both? >> Well, it can it can go both ways. I think it's more so the case that men will move that way than women. >> My take on this is that I would never

Emily (Coach)date somebody where I had to question their loyalty where like I don't care if they have 10 close girlfriends or if they have zero. I would not be dating them if there was a shadow of a doubt if they were the type of person that would emotionally or physically cheat on me. That's the standard I've had in every relationship and it has served me so

Jackie (OF Manager)far. >> Yeah. And plus, like even just because like they're friends with men, like there's still going to be people that you literally see daytoday who are going to approach them that also want to [ __ ] them. So, are you going to keep them in a cage? Like,

Emily (Coach)>> yeah. Like, I trust myself and I trust my partner where like the type of men that I have dated, like especially in my last relationship, he would be blackout drunk and there would be girls talking to him. He they be so he'd be showing them pictures of me and being like, "Hey, let's call my girlfriend." That's

Nyxthe type of guy that I date. >> There's lessons to it hold. Like I think I think you can have like opposite sex friends. I think you can be friends with your ex even. But like as long as you don't give them a reason to be suspicious. >> Yeah. It's just about respect.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. It's about like respect and trust and >> be friends with your ex, but hanging out with them honestly. >> Yeah. >> Does anybody want to Anybody want to test this out? So some of you guys have

Brian Atlasmale friends here. Send them a text and say, you know, assuming this is a guy who he's also single and [ __ ] you could even be in a relation. Those of you,

Brian Atlasyou're in a relationship. You're in a relationship. Relationship. Text one of your male friends. >> I already have it. >> What's the message? Uh, hey, what are you doing tonight? Winky face. Is that obvious enough? I guess. I don't know.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, I'll test it out. I'll grab my phone. >> You can grab my phone, too. >> What's that? >> I don't think anyone talks that way. >> Okay. Yeah, I'm too much of a boomer then, I guess. Uh, I don't know. Netflix and what?

Brian Atlas>> It's more like Tik Tok brain rot and chill now. >> Sorry, but on >> I think would you want to come over tonight? It's pretty good. >> Yeah. >> Do you do you want to do you want to come over tonight? Winky face or something like that.

Poss>> Just w it starts with something similar women here. We can literally come over here. >> Tell us give us an example. >> Yeah, like you want to know what they're doing first. So, you're just going to text them. Hey, what are you up to tonight? Do you want to hang out? Would

Jackie (OF Manager)you want to come over? >> He's a man though. You up? That's the text. I >> mean, you could probably you up. >> I don't know what time it is, but probably not this time. You up? I'm like, no [ __ ] du. I'm up. Like, >> well, >> I'm awake. >> Well, >> I'm not from here.

Jackie (OF Manager)>> We could do it. Is anybody willing to do it first? >> I mean, I am, but willing to test. I'm It's going to prove your theory, but I'm not in a relationship. Oh, it's going to prove that they're Well, we have done it

Jackie (OF Manager)before on the show >> and overwhelmingly the guys text back like, "Let's do it." Like, "Let's block." >> Actually, I don't even know if I know. I blocked most of the guys that would hit

Isabella (Bio)me back. I blocked them all. I'm sick of my friends. Like, I Isabella, can I have you read this chat for us? >> Yeah. Non-feminist traditional virgin women from another country are not only guaranteed to be STD free, but they are

Brian Atlasjust better at being women than females in feminist infected countries. >> Feminist infected countries. What a statement. >> Feminist infected countries. Yeah. >> Yeah. Um I don't know if we really

Possfinished off on the virgin combo. >> Yeah. I think it's really hard for a woman to be bad in bed because to like a lot of guys like you're just a hole. Like you just stand still. >> Whoa.

Jackie (OF Manager)Wow, it's very sexy. >> It's so easy to It's so easy to make a man come versus a woman. >> Women are just dead fish. She said to a lot of guys put a quote underneath that clip that

Poss>> women are just holes. >> Wow. >> Pause. That is >> Wait, none. The women here are going to argue with their guy. >> Hilarious. >> It is so much more easy to please a man

Jackie (OF Manager)than it is to please a woman. Yeah, there's so many women that have had >> there's so many women that have had sex with a lot of men, you know, a few men and they've never came, but how many of

Brian Atlasthose men did they make come? >> Well, yeah. So, just on the like the the quality of the sex angle for for why virginity or whatever. So I think for

Brian Atlasexample a lot of guys could have sex with a girl who's a virgin and if the guy he's experienced he can he can have good sex with a girl if he's in the

Brian Atlaslead. It's kind of like for example uh you guys know dancing or whatever the [ __ ] >> dancing. Do we know >> I don't know what dancing >> uh a guy who's a ballroom dancer. Not I've never done this [ __ ] It's [ __ ]

Brian Atlascringe. But uh if you're >> No, but if if uh like the girl will still [ __ ] up, but as the guy, if you're leading in the dance, you can kind of bring the girl through. Like if you're

Brian Atlasleading her in dance, there's a leader and a follower, right? You can kind of, you know, get her to, you know, but Sorry, something going on behind the scenes there. Everything okay?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, you can you can still lead her and it can be still a decent dance, right? >> Can women lead? >> Uh, sure. I guess. >> So, >> well, but hold on. I want to caveat

Brian Atlasthat. But first, I'll just say when it comes to sex, I think most men, if they're experienced, they know how to lead. They can take the initiative. You can have really, really good sex with a

Brian Atlasgirl who has little or no sexual experience. >> Yeah, cuz you're doing the work. Right. >> Whereas, I'm not sure if it's as much

Brian Atlasthe case where a girl who she's experienced and she takes the lead, and I'm I would question the general proclivity for women to want that sort of dynamic to begin with, it's going to

Brian Atlasbe harder for her to have a good sexual experience with a guy who's inexperienced or a virgin, generally speaking. >> So, guys, you want a virgin and girls,

Brian Atlas>> I'll explain it. Hold on. I I'll explain it like this. So I think for example just because of the uh I guess the the framing would be the anatomical or

Brian Atlasphysiological nature of sex. I think that it's way harder for to's point. It's harder for men to be good in bed

Brian Atlasthan it is for women to good to be good in bed. Here's why. Well, here's one of the components. I think if a you put a woman in

Brian Atlasuh say you you have her in doggy style, >> she could just stay there, not move at all. She's just, you know, stay there. Not like a not like a woman who listens to Taylor Swift

Brian Atlasand like her, you know, not one of those, but like, you know, she knows how to arch her back a little bit. At least, you know, >> doggy style and then sane stay. >> Hold on. >> Yes, exactly. Actually, no.

Brian Atlas>> Crazy. A girl could just be A girl could just be any position. It could be uh missionary. She could even be on top. She could even be on top. >> Cowgirl.

Brian Atlas>> Cowgirl. Yeah. And I'm pretty confident she doesn't have to move at all. The guy in all these varying positions. He can bring without her doing anything can

Brian Atlasbring himself to climax. Mhm. >> If and you put a woman, whatever the best suited position is, whether it's on top, doggy style, whatever, far less women, if the guy is just, you

Brian Atlasknow, he's got a stiffy, whatever, but not doing anything, far less women can climax just by doing that. >> Well, far less women can clim climax in general unless the guy actually cares

Brian Atlasabout her pleasure. But that would point that would seem to point to it being easier to please men and more difficult to please women, >> which is accurate, >> right? So, but the guy can just stand there, do nothing,

Brian Atlas>> they're going to come. >> Less women are going to climax. The woman, if she just whatever, not doing anything. Way easier for the guy to bring himself there. >> Yeah. So that would say that the guy has

Brian Atlasto be a bit more active in the sexual encounter to get the girl to climax. >> Yeah. >> Or girls could just play with themselves more. Yeah. If they know their own

Brian Atlaspleasure, it makes it a lot easier. >> Girls can't even come from sexual intercourse. Like there has to be some [ __ ] >> which can be included in sex. >> Yeah. That's what I was going to say is that like for women it's very emotional

Brian Atlasand much more about the foreplay than the actual >> Right. But but the comparison here though was >> when it comes to the actual act of having sex >> uh without the the girl does nothing.

Brian AtlasThe girl she can't fall fond his balls or whatever just nothing. She's she's can't fall to the balls. No no no additional assistance. She's just there.

Brian AtlasAnd then the most guys can they can climax if the girl's just stationary basically. But if the guy's just stationary, not rubbing or [ __ ]

Brian Atlasnothing, just stationary, most women can't make them. Well, I I I'm not going to say most, it's going to be way more difficult for her to come uh be able to climax like 25%.

Emily (Coach)>> Yeah, but that man will definitely still climax. I challenge that very slightly in the sense that one that's partially because there's a lot of women that are not really informed on their pleasure or feel like they've been able to explore.

Emily (Coach)If they were able to the same way that men were just by societal expectations, um then I would argue that it would be equivalent in the sense of the man just sits there. She's just like, "Okay, babe. I'm going to do my thing." Like,

Emily (Coach)you know, that she would be able to find her own pleasure. and she'd probably like it a little bit more with some guys experience. Just speak trying to be very clean here.

Emily (Coach)Um, but yeah, if she knew her pleasure and the guy was just sitting there and she just did her thing riding it or whatever, simulating herself that she would be able to find it probably easier than a

Emily (Coach)guy who we assume she's just in receiving mode in my opinion. >> Yeah. >> Wait, what? So usually when in sex, somebody is

Emily (Coach)typically the leader and somebody's typically the submissive. Usually the guy is the one that is seen as the leader or the one that is doing the work. However, I think if women knew more about their pleasure, I think that

Emily (Coach)there's a lot of shame in women, especially in religious organizations around self-pleasuring and there's a lot of um complexities to the woman's anatomy and that she's not really informed of and the more that she knows

Emily (Coach)about her own pleasure, she can satisfy herself in bed. So, I think it would be equivalent in the sense that if the guy was just laying back and she was just going cowgirl or whatever it is that she's doing. Okay. And if she knew her

Emily (Coach)own pleasure, it' be equivalent about who's being still and who's not being still. And as long as they know how to pleasure themselves. No, >> I get your >> Well, yeah. But so, you're talking about like she's rubbing her [ __ ]

Brian Atlas>> Sure. But even with Oh my goodness. It's so riding him, too. >> Yeah. How is she going to self? She's going to be his his the pee and the V and she's going to be fingering herself.

Brian Atlas>> No. >> Well, she can also just ride as a woman and >> Okay, I see against his against his pubic bone and it will Okay, I see what you're saying.

Brian Atlas>> Bouncing of all the things. >> Okay. Yeah, I guess also here, you know, I think what's also

Brian Atlasreally unfair, you know, there's there's a an orgasm gap. >> Y'all women can come multiple times, and that's [ __ ] up. So unfair. >> Well, it's not [ __ ] up. It's good. It's good that you can do that.

Bailey (Nursing)>> It's great, >> but it's unfair >> to make up for all the times didn't know how to make us come. >> Yeah, I was about to say like >> like the amount of times we come versus like that's today. >> Not like we deserve that.

Brian Atlas>> I'm just saying >> I deserve five because I did five before that and got nothing. >> I'm just saying it's really unfair, you know? >> Like I'm over here. I can just come once and that some of these chicks are coming

Jackie (OF Manager)like 20 times. >> She has a valid point though. Like >> Sorry. No, go ahead. >> Say what you were going to say again. >> How many times have we or other women hooked up with men and didn't come at all?

Brian Atlas>> That's what you're making up for. Like >> five for the price of one. >> God forbid if we can't come, we come five times. >> Argument. That's a perfect argument for not having casual sex as a woman because the guy's less likely to care about your

Brian Atlaspleasure and you're less likely to get off. >> Have sex in a relationship where you're your partner's going to be more invested in your pleasure and you're more

Emily (Coach)comfortable. >> I love our boys. I think Sorry. I find it more often from what I >> straightight straight straight straight straight. >> What I've heard is that usually the men

Emily (Coach)is actually more focused on trying to make the woman more pleasured before because he knows that. >> Have you experienced that personally? >> I don't discuss my sex life right now.

Emily (Coach)I'm celibate. But um I I would say that like from what I've read and from my clients experiences and stuff, it's it's the opposite. So I guess we're just talking about different spectrums here.

Emily (Coach)like, you know, where they the m Oh my goodness. Um, where he's typically trying to make her feel pleasurable because a guy is trying to make it sound like he's

Brian Atlasenjoying it. >> I don't know. Some people disagree, but that's what I've heard. I mean, >> well, wait, wasn't it you who was forwarding this argument of most women aren't coming when they're having sex?

Jackie (OF Manager)>> Yeah. Yeah. And I know that that's a fact cuz I worked in a sex store where there's so many women that came in that didn't ever have an orgasm and they've been in happy marriages. Like still they're having they're not having casual sex. They're still not coming.

Jackie (OF Manager)>> But is a woman not coming more likely to occur >> in a like a one night stand or in a relationship? >> I mean, it's both. >> There's just a lot of men, whether it's a one night stand or you're married to them, that don't care about the woman's

Brian Atlaspleasure. They just see it as pleasuring themselves. That's all they care about. I'm not saying you guys can ask the woman here a question. Uh, >> do you think the guy is going to be more focused on your pleasure when you're

Emily (Coach)like his girlfriend or when you're just like a one night stand? >> A lot of men don't care about their girlfriend. >> I think this is more of a personality and like how good you are as a lover

Brian Atlasrather than like than whether or not he cares or more because you're a casual. >> Yeah. Okay. A guy who's just [ __ ] you once could be like, "Yeah, I'm going to make this chick come like 10 times."

Bailey (Nursing)>> And your boyfriend could just be like, >> "Okay, let me give you Let me give you an example. >> I guess I'll [ __ ] you." >> Let me give you an example. So, that guy I told you I dated for like 2 years. >> Yeah.

Bailey (Nursing)>> Yeah. And then didn't want to have sex with me anymore. The whole reason I was attracted to him at the beginning is cuz he wanted to like please me and stuff. And I was like, "Okay, slay." And then he just stopped. >> Ah, he got you. Yeah, he got you

Bailey (Nursing)trapped. He got trapped >> and then and then he would just like yeah do it for himself and >> I don't know. I think honestly >> like it doesn't matter about the girlfriend part because I became his girlfriend and then he quit.

Jackie (OF Manager)>> This is all spectrum but in my experience like working at the sex store there was so many married women they've never even came. >> Okay. Yeah. L for them I guess. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> L's L's in the chat for >> Look, I don't know. I have a very simple philosophy. Uh make your girl come first. >> That's it. >> Yeah. >> She comes first. >> That's how it should be. But

Brian Atlas>> she comes first then uh Yeah. >> And then uh if you can multiple times. All right. Anyways, uh let's get into the the tea stuff. Oh my goodness.

Brian Atlas>> This shit's crazy. Have you guys heard this app tea? >> I think I saw a Facebook post about it. All right. So, there's this uh it's a uh women's only app, so they only let women

Brian Atlasjoin. They verify it through a photo. >> And maybe have you guys heard about the like the are we dating the same guy? >> Yeah, I was about to say it's similar to that. Correct. >> Kind of similar to that. So, girls will post a guy and they'll be like who

Brian Atlasthey're maybe going on a date with or just, you know, been on a date with and they're asking, "Give me the scoop. Give me the scoop. Is he red flags? is he got a wife, whatever. You know, all this

Brian Atlasstuff. They want to get the details. They want the the background. Recently, there's this new app that just became number one on the app store called T. Uh Nick, can you just find the

Brian AtlasWikipedia page for it? I guess. Uh number one on the app store. So, basically, only women can join it. They verify through your ID, make sure you're a woman. And one of the criticisms of

Brian Atlasthis app is that while it can sometimes be used for women's safety, women looking out for each other, avoiding cheaters or whatever, you got it. Uh so here it is. Make it a

Brian Atlaslittle bigger. Uh women only mo uh mobile phone application uh post allows the posting of personal

Brian Atlasdata about men that users are currently formally or interested in dating. Scroll down. It was released back in 2023, but it just recently blew up this past month basically.

Brian Atlas>> Has it been around the whole time then? >> What do you mean >> since 2023? >> It's been around since 2023, but I think the user base was super small and then it just blew up in the past one or two

Brian Atlasmonths. And uh scroll down. of propon proponents have praised the app as an aid for women's safety by helping them check for men for adultery, catfishing, criminal blah blah blah, red flags, blah

Brian Atlasblah blah. Critics have described the application as a doxing app and a violation of privacy, an opportunity for defamation against innocent individuals and a witch hunt. Um

Brian Atlas>> and uh they there have been some lawsuits against some of these other apps or whatever. Uh cyber harassment, this sort of thing. Uh apparently according to the I guess the founder

Brian AtlasSean stated that the company's legal team receives three legal threats per day. Uh a lot of people are unhappy about what we're doing and that's okay. Interestingly enough, this could

Brian Atlasactually I think it might even related to the the civil rights uh law that I cited earlier related to the Uber thing. Uh the UNRU civil rights act disallows

Brian Atlasdiscrimination on the basis of sex. In this case, you have an application a business and the business is even if it was in a different state, they're doing business in California. it would run a

Brian Atlasfoul of the the uh the UNRU Civil Rights Act or whatever that you can't discriminate on the basis of sex, race, etc., etc. Since they only allow women to use the

Brian Atlasapp, I think they're in violation of something. For example, you couldn't have an app that only allowed white

Brian Atlaspeople to use. In fact, I think it it's in it's not even in compliance with Apple's own terms of service. So, in Apple's terms of service, you can't have

Brian Atlasan app which is discriminate uh discriminatory on the basis of race, gender, sex, etc., etc. So, it's definitely in violation of Apple TOS.

Brian AtlasIt's in violation of um California civil rights law. So, there could be some potential claims that come through there. But in any case, to the

Brian Atlasapp, what recently happened though, uh, well, really quick on the criticism. So, basically, men were frustrated because you had these women who, sure, there's genuine safety concerns

Brian Atlasand stuff, but they were basically like publishing their photos, their names on these apps. And look,

Brian Atlaswho here's been on a bad date? No. Nobody. Okay. And it's like, look, people can then

Brian Atlaseven if there wasn't again we had this distinction conversation between abuse trauma blah blah blah maybe a guy was a

Brian Atlasjerk on a date whatever I don't think that this means you need to then like throw him to the wolves online and try to ruin his reputation some also sometimes there's a mismatch in

Brian Atlaspersonalities and you guys just don't like each So, some women, not all women, have used these apps to try to destroy men's reputations. They've lied about these

Brian Atlasmen. They've, you know, false accusations, this sort of thing. But, and a lot of women defend it though on the basis of this is for our safety.

Brian AtlasWe don't want to go on a date with a guy who's whatever, a jerk, whatever it is. What ended up happening is apparently

Brian Atlasthe people who made the app were were vibe coding and they had a breach of their cyber

Brian Atlassecurity. Somebody was able to access a database on this app that had the uh

Brian Atlasphotos and the photo IDs of something like over 70,000 women. 70,000 women had their personally identifying information

Brian Atlasleaked. I think it was 4chan. I don't know

Brian Atlas>> what somebody's like, "What's up?" >> You made me get that app. >> Oh, dang. Exposed. >> How's that exposed? I was cur I wanted

Brian Atlasto see what was on it. So, anyways. So anyways, these women quite it's almost ironic. Fate it seems isn't without a sense of

Brian Atlasirony. The women who were on the app basically invading the privacy of these men, posting their photos, sharing private information about them

Brian Atlasare now having their information publicly exposed. So pull up the tweets on this. Uh, someone created a website where you

Brian Atlascan rate the users of the hacked feminist doxing app T. So they uh they created the site Tea Spill where the men people are now rating the the appearances of the women and now there's

Brian Atlasa leaderboard for the most attractive and then the well it's the top 50 and the bottom 50. Let's go to the next one. >> The Tinder. Oh, and then and then there was a comparison of the men who got

Brian Atlasposted versus the women who posted on the tea app. >> No. >> And they're like, "Wow, the men are more attractive than the Anyways, uh, and

Brian Atlasthen is there one more? I think Oh, I make it smaller, Nick. One more. I in response to the tea app, I'm pleased to

Brian Atlasannounce the development of my Brian Atlas, this is me, my mobile app, Tally, a male only dating safety app where men tally the body counts of women. Never be

Brian Atlaslied to again. No, before you go. So, we're basically as guys, you know, we care about body count, right? So, you can join my app called Tally. >> And is it real? >> And you can tally up. Guys will tally

Brian Atlasup. Oh, I slept with her. Slept with her. tally marks and they the body count boom gets tallied up. >> That's real. >> It's in development.

Brian Atlas>> So any any app developers in the chat? I will actually release this. >> Any app developers in the chat? Hey, you know, you got to fight fire with fire, you know. So, okay. What do you guys think? You think the app's legit? You think

Brian Atlas>> How can you like verify the tallies, though? Well, you know, look, it's hard. >> It's hard. The best that we can do is one, you know, if the girl tells you her

Brian Atlasbody count, that's the baseline. But then it's like, yep, had sex with her. We're going to do an incentive program for local [ __ ] boys. >> So, these guys have insight. Local [ __ ]

Bailey (Nursing)boys got the insight. >> They buckur buckur. And it's going to start to tally up. Okay, but how do you know they're telling the truth? >> The [ __ ] boys. >> How do you know? >> How do we know the women are telling the

Bailey (Nursing)truth about the band that they're posting on the >> both suck? Yeah, they both suck. Like >> he could say, "Yeah, I [ __ ] her for like the plot, but like it doesn't mean he [ __ ] her." >> Oh, yeah. Guys could go on and lie. >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Poss>> Just like the women can go on and lie about the [ __ ] thing. >> Oh, yeah. They're both stupid, >> right? But, you know, hey, it is what it is. You know, just throwing privacy to the wind. But if you were to lie about your body count, would it be higher or

Posslower? >> Wait, what do you mean? >> Like, okay, so you know, cuz I I don't think like everyone is like super honest about their body counts unless it's like a decent number and you're like proud of

Possit, whatever. But if you were to lie about your body counts, would you lie about it being lower or higher? People typically go lower. >> I'll take I'm saying higher so he doesn't talk to me.

Nyx>> Oh, >> wait. Wait, >> is that your serious answer? >> Yeah, I'm being dead ass. I'm never telling a guy my actual body count. Not unless it's like serious. Whoa, I saw you like react to that. No, if it's like a serious conversation, I'm going to

Nyxtell him the truth. But like if it's just a guy trying to hit me up, I'm lying. >> I'm saying tire. >> Yeah, I'm saying something crazy to be funny. >> I'm so confused. Who's actually been asked that question? Cuz I have never

Nyxbeen asked that question in my life. >> I've only been asked a serious question. >> Even a guy you're like you've dated like I've only had the serious dating content.

Nyx>> But you've never had a guy be like he doesn't Hold on, hold on, hold on. He doesn't say, "What's your body count?" But he's like, "How many guys you been with?" has >> No, dude. I'm going to be a normal question. >> I'm going to be honest. I'm usually the

Nyxone that starts that conversation just because it's been put into my head by men on social media. >> Good. >> Yeah. Good. >> I've never been asked >> the the whatever propaganda is working. >> Y'all made me paranoid. I don't know. I

Nyxyou know look I think it's fair to ask within the first five minutes of a first date. >> The within the five minutes you don't even know if you like that. Oh so this

Brian Atlas>> Hi Sally. What's her sex life like? >> This is part of determining her. >> There is nothing more chivalous and gentlemanly

Brian Atlasthan asking a woman how many penises have been inside her >> within the first 5 minutes of >> within the appetizer. Not even arriving yet. >> Romantic. It's very romantic. >> Open the door yet. >> Very gentleman. >> What's your name? Where do you work? How

Bailey (Nursing)many guys have you slept with? >> How many penises? How many? Yes. >> Also, >> are you asking body count before like family discussions? Are you like, "Hey, what's your body count? Do you want kids

Brian Atlasby the way or?" >> Uh, yeah. That's part of Well, that's one of the many questions in my girlfriend's application. So, >> well, I know, but I just mean, which one are you asking first, body count or children?

Brian Atlas>> Which one's more important? I mean the the girlfriend's application. The girlfriend's application. >> What the [ __ ] >> Uh I wouldn't say it's ordered. >> It's not.

Brian Atlas>> No, it's not ordered in like this is most important, least important. There's no order to it. It's just kind of, you know, one question, what's your body

Brian Atlascount? Next question. Uh do you have BPD? Do you take any medications? >> Bro, I can't tell if you're being dead ass. Like, do you actually go on a date and like go down this list? I would believe you either way, honestly. Which

Brian Atlasis >> Well, so I'd say this. So, okay, I'm giving >> How do I frame this? Okay, if the Okay, hold on.

Brian Atlas>> What's your So, it's hard because like prior to starting my podcast, I did normal dating. did normal dating. But after the podcast, I would say like

Brian AtlasI've had a lot of people reach out to me. It's interesting. You know, this I kind of want to talk about power dynamics because it occurred to women talk about oh power dynamic blah blah.

Brian AtlasYou guys don't want to confess that a massive power dynamic is who's the initiator. So typically men are the initiator. the guys are asking you for the date,

Brian Atlassliding into your DMs, going up to you, whatever, whatever the context, uh, you have way more leverage if somebody's coming to you. So, for example, if a

Brian Atlasgirl slides into my DMs, I can 100% get away with asking her like 30 really invasive questions. Like, I can be the one who's screening, but this

Brian Atlasunfortunately does not apply to most men. So, I typically don't like to have that convo because my own experience is not going to be applicable to most men because most men do not have the

Brian Atlasleverage to get away with saying, "What's your body count right away? You're not going to have the le you can do it. Good chance you'll lose that specific girl, but if it's important to you, you can do it." But yeah, most men

Brian Atlasdon't have the leverage. Like you match with a girl on a dating app, you're not going to be able to run her down like some [ __ ] massive screening question list, you know? >> Well, yeah. Is it that important in the

Brian Atlasfirst date, though? >> What's that? >> Are those questions that important on the first date? >> I guess if you're setting it, >> most most men are not going to have the leverage or the confidence uh or even

Brian Atlasthe optionality to start screening a girl on the first date. >> Oh, yeah. >> They can. Do you do it or you don't? >> Uh, so when I when I used to normally

Brian Atlasdate, no, I didn't. I mean, I would ask uh I would ask other questions to try to get at my answer, but yeah, I'm not there's no way I'm asking a girl her body count. Old Brian, no. Doesn't ask

Brian Atlasthis. New Brian, [ __ ] it. I'll still ask it. Whatever. If I'm on If I'm the initiator, if I'm the initiator, [ __ ] it. I'll still ask. Whatever. >> But, uh, most men, nah, you're not going to get away with it. >> I think I think it's a Where do you meet

Brian Atlaswomen now? Where? Where do I What do you mean? Well, I haven't dates. I got off the dating apps. You don't have a dating app. >> I got off the dating apps a long time ago. Uh I mean most of the women like

Brian Atlasthat I don't I don't reveal certain things, but I'll just say uh they've reached out to me. >> I'll just say that. >> So that makes them the initiator. >> Uh yeah, technically yeah, they initiated.

Emily (Coach)>> Yeah. I think it's a little it's a little I I don't know if I just don't understand your concept or I think it's a little bit of a silly concept that once you get onto the date that you are not also having the power to decide if the person in front of you is somebody

Emily (Coach)that you want to continue to pursue. Like that's where I'm getting a little bit lost in your argument. >> Wait, sorry. Repeat that again. Sorry. >> Um where you once you actually get on the date with the woman like it is also

Emily (Coach)your equal opportunity too to be able to determine if this is somebody that you want to continue to pursue. I think this whole like the argument that women or men roll the dice and are going through the funnel and just getting what they

Brian Atlascan get like you know and hope that it's great like I don't believe that. >> No, but I'm saying you can you can come at it you can ask these questions in a

Brian Atlasmore organic way more interspersed on a date and it's okay. But I guess for example, before I if a if a girl were to

Brian Atlascontact me, before I meet up with her, even before I even meet up with her, I can ask her all these questions. But if I, for example,

Brian Atlasif I were to slide into a girl's DMs, it I can't You can do it, but it it's not really going to work. You're not going to be able to be like ask her like

Emily (Coach)a 20 vetting questions really like the big ones. You're not going to be what's your body count? >> Well, as the w the woman here, the receptor or whatever, I'm also not sending these guys 20 list of questions

Emily (Coach)either. Like I don't think >> Yeah. You're not you're not vetting. >> I vet getting to know them, not asking them a questionnaire. I'll fill this out and then this is going to tell me everything about you. You can have a whole paragraph synopsis of who a person

Emily (Coach)is based on their own writing and their own interpretation, but you don't know who they are till you actually get to know them and actually see who how they show up in the world in action over time. >> Wait, so what's your I guess what what

Emily (Coach)are you trying to say? I'm just a little bit confused by your perspective on it because I mean I think first and foremost if you look at biology there's only three species in the planet where

Emily (Coach)the male does not initiate through action like you know which is a seahorse, a spider and like something else like it's something weird like you know but that doesn't mean that there's

Emily (Coach)not like that there's not some sort of other energetic exchange like again like there's ways that the woman initiates just it's a more like because of polarity a more subtle way like eye contact, smiling like you know there you

Emily (Coach)can she can approach you next to a bar and be like hi like you know what's a good drink around here and men because of the back like I don't think men always pick up on those subtleties and

Emily (Coach)don't really recognize that am I wrong okay cool so that's just my first point is that just because the man is technically the one saying the words that doesn't mean that the woman can't

Emily (Coach)invite him to pursue her and then number two the fact that there is a pursuer and a receiver whoever it is I it's just a weird concept to me to be sending questionnaires or trying to vet necessarily going like on a first date

Brian Atlaswhen it's really about just getting to know the person and seeing if you guys connect. >> Well, I mean it depends on your time management and what what you're willing to do. Some people are okay just kind of like going on dates, spending time going

Brian Atlason dates. I at least from my perspective, time is valuable. If there's something that she can reveal to me that's I know is a deal

Brian Atlasbreakaker or is going to be an issue. I want to know that as soon as possible, not not only I mean I suppose selfishly

Brian Atlasto save my time, but as a consideration to her to save her time. Like why am I I'm going to give them a chance. No, just tell me the things that I Let me

Brian Atlasask you the things that I think are major deal breakers before we even meet. That way I can spare us both the time. >> I mean I think it's worth it to like see if he if it's actually a dealbreaker to

Nyxyou. Like what I mean by that is like um my current boyfriend before when before we went on our first date I thought that smoking was like a hard no for me. Like I don't like cigarettes. But then you know we went on the first date I liked him and then on the second date he said

Nyxoh by the way I smoke cigarettes. And then I was like you know what I don't think I really care that much. He seems like a really cool guy. Like why does that impact me? you know, so I think it's worth it to explore that like possibility. >> Uh,

Emily (Coach)>> and dating can be so fun, too. Like dating, you put all this pressure. It can be so dating is fun for me. You don't think it's fun? >> If you put all this pressure that I have to know by the first date who you think

Emily (Coach)dating is a chore, you >> dating is a means to an end. >> Whoa. >> The dating process itself is dog [ __ ] >> Well, because you're sending applications to women. Maybe because you

Brian Atlasmaybe because you approach it with that mindset. >> No, dating. I want I'm curious what the chat thinks. I don't think like going on dates, scheduling dates, doing all that. That's not >> that's not fun. Like that's not

Brian Atlas>> for the girl. >> I don't like it. >> It's not fun. >> It's It's [ __ ] You know, people are flaking, cancelling. Um, you meet up with somebody, whether you're a man or a

Brian Atlaswoman, they're they're [ __ ] weirdos or creepy or whatever it is. I I done dealt with creepy chicks. Uh, yeah. I don't think dating is a means to an end to getting into a relationship or

Brian Atlasfinding your person. >> What? So, that cool that part's cool. Being in the relationship, having the boyfriend, girlfriend, dating. >> Nah. >> Maybe you think it's miserable because

Brian Atlasyou approach it with that mindset. Well, also it's I think it's also convenient. Maybe women can hold this position, but as men typically, we're the ones who are putting in the effort and the initiative. We got to we got to be the

Brian Atlasones putting ourselves out there for to face rejection. We got to ask you for the date. We got to get your number. We got to plan the date. We got to do boom boom boom. All these things y'all just are kind of passive when it comes to dating.

Emily (Coach)>> I mean, in some ways, yes. But I also like for I can just speak for me personally here. I take responsibility as a woman that when I'm on the date to show up not just doing what like this like letting the man do everything like

Emily (Coach)I yes he might plan the date and he might make up the plan but I show up as a woman he'd actually want to be around like >> also yeah I'm trying to find my person too >> yeah like I I intentionally show up like

Emily (Coach)make making myself feel flirty making myself feel like you know good in my body that I've I gave him a really good experience of being of filling up my purse not like don't be weird It's like like but like if I'm going to

Emily (Coach)if this guy is going to plan a date for me, I'm going to show up in a good mood like in a >> Yeah, you can be pleasant. Of course you can be pleasant. >> Being pleasant. That's what she was alluding to. >> And look, a lot of people are nervous on

Brian Atlasdates. There's both men and women are nervous on dates. Uh it can be anxietyinducing, you know, whatever. All this stuff. Um well, can I ask this? Who here has been on like three or four

Brian Atlasdates in a week with with different people? Anybody done that? Five dates in a week. >> It's exhausting. >> About five. >> Yeah. It's [ __ ] tiring to go on like six dates with six different people. That's

Brian Atlas>> You did it in a week. >> What expectations are you dating? That's dating. You go out a couple times a week. >> Well, if you expect it to be a week, >> you don't have You don't have to. You don't have to do that. Sounds exhausting. >> Have you done that? Like, if you're

Asia>> No, not I've gone on a couple dates in a week. I honestly think dating is exhausting in general when you're intentionally dating. Cuz >> if you're It's fun if you're just like free meal, free meal, free meal. Of course, as a woman, yeah, cool. That

Asiasounds fun. >> But I'm not just putting on an outfit and doing my hair and putting on makeup and setting time aside for you if I'm not intentionally dating you. >> They're like dating exhaustion is real. However, like if you go in with the

Emily (Coach)mindset that dating sucks, then dating is going to suck for you. >> That goes for anything really. >> Yeah. Like sincerely. So, like if you go in with the intention of, hey, not this one person, this one date that I have. I have to know if he's going to be the person that's going to be here for the

Emily (Coach)rest of my life. Instead, you approach it of, wow, what a cool opportunity to get to know somebody new. I've been able to meet people who I've gone on plenty of dates where this guy didn't end up being somebody that I dated or even went on a second or third date with, but had

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