Andrew Wilson vs. 10 Feminists DEBATE! 3 RAGE QUITS?! SUPER FERAL CHAOS PANEL?! | Dating Talk 283
Date: 2026-02-23
Duration: 10h 01m
Guests
Identified Speakers
SPEAKER_00Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_02Mars(guest)
SPEAKER_03Sarah (Angelique)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Mia(guest)
SPEAKER_05Kayla (Passes)(guest)
SPEAKER_06Mary Jane(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Courtney (MS)(guest)
SPEAKER_10Diana Sixto(guest)
SPEAKER_11Ella(guest)
SPEAKER_12Megan Loftess(guest)
SPEAKER_13Anya (Ana Lacy)(guest)
SPEAKER_14Megan Loftess(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:33
IntroAll 14 guests introduced - most overbooked ever
00:10:22
Key MomentElla reveals she eats raw chicken and pork, believes in terrain theory
00:45:23
Key MomentAndrew Wilson and Diana Sixto begin marathon prenup/feminism debate
03:16:00
Key MomentAndrew presents force doctrine to the panel
03:28:40
ControversyAndrew gets Diana to accept she is a feminist by definition
04:58:57
Key MomentBrian reads Mars' full dominatrix service menu. Nuclear explosion sound effects.
09:53:03
QuoteElla: circumcision is genital mutilation that should never be done to babies
Topics Discussed
00:00:33
Guest Introductions
14 people - most overbooked episode ever. Includes Andrew Wilson, Mars (dominatrix), Diana Sixto, Ella (raw meat eater).
00:10:22
Ella's Raw Meat Diet
Eats raw chicken and pork. Believes in terrain theory. Parasites are beneficial.
00:45:23
Prenup Debate: Andrew vs Diana
Extended debate on prenups, women financial independence, marriage as institution.
01:42:23
Chivalry Debate
Brian argues sex workers don't deserve chivalry. Extended panel debate.
03:16:00
Andrew's Force Doctrine
Men monopolize force, women always appeal to men for rights. Feminism dismantling patriarchy is circular.
04:58:57
Mars Dominatrix Services
Brian reads Mars' full service menu including toilet play, CBT, financial domination.
09:53:03
Ella on Circumcision
Final hot take: circumcision is genital mutilation that should be illegal.
Transcript
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05:56:55
Brian Atlasstupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. >> Yes, you had to read that off your laptop. >> Yeah, I googled the quote. Yeah, >> but um I don't think >> Does it make the quote less true?
05:57:07
Megan Loftess>> True. I don't think it applies here, but >> it absolutely applies. You refuse to engage with a hypothetical? >> No, I I have. I just don't engage with it in the way that you want me to. >> I have low self-esteem. I I think my
05:57:18
Megan Loftessboyfriend's a better person than me. I would let him live and let me die. That's But that's on the sense of like I think he's worth more than me, you know? >> I'm sorry you feel that way. Honestly, >> as as for me, if he like died for me.
05:57:31
Brian Atlas>> All right, I got to move this [ __ ] I'm moving it on to something else. Um that's that's crazy. >> Uh okay, here. Let me get to other people's notes here. Oh my goodness. Uh
05:57:43
Brian Atlascrazy. Um okay. Uh let's see. I'm going to go to uh somebody else's notes here. Kayla.
05:57:54
Brian Atlas>> Kayla. All right. Let's go to Kayla. Uh you dated your Discord mod. You want to tell us the quick story there? A quick version of the story is I had a Discord
05:58:03
Kayla (Passes)server with about 50,000 members and um I had a big staff team and I ended up I made the Discord when I was like living in Ohio and Michigan and I ended up moving to Florida and I didn't know
05:58:16
Kayla (Passes)anybody there so I hung out with my Discord mod and we started dating and we dated for like a year. >> Okay. Um cool I guess. Uh all right. I'm a bit confused though. In
05:58:30
Brian Atlassome of your photos that you post online, you you do wear a cross, but earlier when asked if you're a Christian, you said that you are spiritual and not you wouldn't take the label of Christian.
05:58:39
Kayla (Passes)>> Yeah. I wouldn't want to like misrepresent Christianity um because I like sell bikini photos and I post bikini photos and stuff, but I would say that that is the religion that
05:58:51
Brian Atlasaligns the closest to my thought process. >> Okay. All right. Uh, we have Angelique. >> Sarah. >> Oh, >> am I I mean I go by Sarah Angelique. So, >> uh, you're a singer.
05:59:05
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Okay. And you wanted to talk about guys that never want anything serious but still want you around for sex. >> I mean, yeah, that is that is true. I mean, some people
05:59:15
Sarah (Angelique)um they date, you know, they I mean, my longest relationship for 2 years um way back when I was a lot younger. Um he kind of always wanted other like women around and I would always be like, why?
05:59:28
Sarah (Angelique)You know, so kind of >> Oh, so it wasn't exclusive. >> It was exclusive, >> but you said he wanted other women around. >> Yeah. Like my friends and like just people to go out with and just so he
05:59:39
Brian Atlascould look good having other lots of women around him. Oh, but he wasn't dating or sleeping with them. >> Yes, I was dating him. Yeah. >> No, but he was >> exclusively. Yeah, but he wasn't with
05:59:50
Brian Atlasthe other women. But he would want them. But tell me that he would want them around. >> All right. I see. Uh going to >> Ella, right?
06:00:00
Brian Atlas>> Ella. Uh you're a conservative. You're a conservative libertarian. You grew up as a leftist in California. >> Mhm. Uh, so really quick, just if you can with a quick answer, what did you
06:00:13
Ellaused to believe and what do you believe now? >> Okay. Um, I used to be pro-choice. Um, used to be very and this was all like
06:00:25
Ellaway way back in the day. You know, I was politically oriented at 11 years old, which is a a fun thing for a child to be into. Um, and really into LGBT
06:00:36
Ellawhatnotss. Um, and I I just generally guess had different values in that sense. Um, and I was also vegetarian. I became
06:00:49
Ellavegetarian at 8 years old after seeing some videos of PA online. I was like, "No, the animals." Um, but now I I eat meat every day,
06:00:59
Ellausually three times a day. So, you know, that is a change and a difference. Um, and yeah, nowadays I guess I just have different perspectives. A lot of that was
06:01:11
Ellatriggered by COVID. You know, being a young woman, CO happened when I was 15, and then I got a lot more exposure. Um, I listened to the Uni Bomber Manifesto
06:01:21
Brian Atlasat 15 and that really got my brain moving. Yeah. >> I'm guessing you're familiar. >> I mean, I I've seen documentaries on the
06:01:33
Brian AtlasUniball. I have but I I I have not read his manifesto so I'm not aware of the contents. >> It's an environmental extremist that would Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean he was you could say he was
06:01:43
Ellaan environmentalist extremist. Um but he had a lot of views just about society as a whole about uh leftism as well being a lot more racist being a lot more
06:01:55
Ellaessentially of bigots. um and he wrote a lot about that and also mostly about the industrial revolution and its consequences. So ranging from everything for how the world is the way it is
06:02:07
Brian Atlastoday. >> Okay. Uh you wrote that you were exposed to a lot of LGBT and feminist propaganda but then yes during COVID you woke up you did not get vaccinated. You started learning the truth about the world. You
06:02:19
Brian Atlashave a good perspective because you understand both sides of the coin. >> Why women are drawn to sex work and how it harms them. Um, you've had two boyfriends, both of which have been long-term serious relationships. The biggest problem with
06:02:31
Brian Atlasboth of them was cowardice. Uh, your last boyfriend was a World of Warcraft and addict and a porn addict. >> Yes. >> Uh, and you because you were unsupportive of this lifestyle, he ended
06:02:43
Ellayour nearly three-year relationship. >> Yeah. I mean, it was accumulation of of quite a few things, but at the end of the day, it was really frustrating to him. I know that I wanted
06:02:55
Ellahim to play video games less and I also didn't want him watching porn. >> Okay. And uh you I mean I I think that
06:03:04
Brian Atlasthat's super valid. >> Um he played I actually I uh I briefly had a stint with World of Warcraft when I was younger and then I
06:03:14
Brian Atlasplayed it again like back in 2019. >> It is it is an addicting game and it's a game you can't just play for an hour. You typically play it >> 10 hours a day. you know. Yeah. >> Uh but I I stopped playing video games
06:03:27
Brian Atlasand long time ago. But uh I do understand the addictive component of uh the video game. But uh was it the entire course of your relationship?
06:03:38
Ella>> Um no it wasn't the entire course of our relationship. During the beginning it was a lot easier. Um but the majority of our relationship he was actually unemployed and that's when World of Warcraft really took over. Uh but he was
06:03:50
Ellavery >> good at finances. Um because he's a a crypto bro and he made enough money he was like you know what I'm gonna retire for a little while. >> Oh wow. >> And just kind of do my own thing.
06:04:00
Ella>> Play video games. Was he a classic Andy or did he play retail World of Warcraft? >> I don't know. Frankly I Yeah. I didn't really ask him too many questions about it. >> Was he hoarded or alliance? >> Again I I really don't know. I
06:04:14
Brian Atlas>> You didn't even ask your boyfriend about the video. Okay. Uh but he was also a porn addict. Yeah. Men should not watch porn in uh relationships. Totally agree. uh or I guess period. Um >> Mhm. >> You also said your boyfriend before him,
06:04:27
Brian AtlasI guess a different boyfriend. >> Yes. >> Grew up without a father, subsequently dealt with a lot of problems. You broke up with him because you were being cackled and sexually harassed >> by a group of strangers and he hid from
06:04:38
Brian Atlasthem, leaving you alone and pretending not to know you so they wouldn't say anything to him. But can you be specific as to exactly um by the way just men
06:04:48
Brian Atlasshould not be cackalling or uh you know being whatever in the streets but uh can you be specific as to exactly what this group of men were doing?
06:04:57
Ella>> Yes. So we were at a concert and I wouldn't say I was you know necessarily so scantily glad. I was wearing a shirt comparable to this and then a skirt that was shorter.
06:05:09
Ella>> Okay. Um, and I was at the concert and I remember we were waiting for the band to get on stage and I was stretching. I was like going down to the ground and touching my toes and then it started. It was a group
06:05:20
Ellaof about five guys, two of which were in a wheelchair, interestingly enough. Um, and they just started hollering all
06:05:28
Ellathese really um, vulgar things of sexual acts they wanted me to do to them >> involving stretching and whatnot. >> Okay. Um, and
06:05:40
Ella>> and but did they they didn't like grope or touch you? >> No, but they were pretty close to me. I mean, they were about as as close to me as you are to me now. So, >> just very uncomfortable. Yeah. >> Yeah. Very uncomfortable. >> And they were saying inappropriate
06:05:53
Ellathings. >> I looked up and I like looked around me and my boyfriend had just gone into the crowd. He had gone away and I asked him about that. I was like, "Hey, did you hear that? Like, you remember when those guys were yelling those crazy stuff?" He was like, "Oh, yeah." You know, I I had
06:06:06
Brian Atlasto get out of there. I didn't want them to yell at me, too. >> Wait, qu uh question. And how many guys were were doing this were doing the cat calling? >> Uh there was about four or five. And
06:06:16
Ella>> And it was just you and your boyfriend? >> No. Is me, my boyfriend, and his friend? And >> male friend or female friend? >> Male. >> I see. And were these guys uh
06:06:28
Ellaintimidating at all? Were they did they appear violent or anything like that? >> Not necessarily. I mean, I remember it made me really uncomfortable, but they were just kind of like hollering from a distance. They weren't like coming up
06:06:41
Brian Atlascloser to me, >> but naturally the fact that then >> what would have been the ideal uh way in which your boyfriend in that moment uh could have acted or should have acted >> I think probably just took me from the
06:06:54
Ellahand and like >> led you away. >> Yeah. led me away from the situation because ultimately like if you have a bunch of guys that are kind of >> doing that, you know, they're probably drunk. >> You could yell at them like, "Hey, don't
06:07:06
Brian Atlasbe a dick." But you don't need to like >> go and and throw some punches because, you know, what's that really going to achieve? >> Well, I mean, um I think the
06:07:17
Brian Atlasyour your boyfriend and was outnumbered. >> He should have led you away in the situation. Mhm. >> Confronting them probably would have led to an escalation that given the numbers
06:07:29
Brian Atlassometimes in a you got to be prag pragmatic unless your boyfriend's like a [ __ ] MMA fighter. >> But important to in wheelchairs >> but even then in wheelchairs you can push them out.
06:07:38
Mars>> Yeah. Oh in wheelchair like older older like gentlemen. >> Yeah. Well around you to like back that
06:07:49
Brian Atlasup as well. Well, what what he did was uh he was that was completely wrong. He should have grabbed your hand, grabbed your arm, led you away, got you out of the situation. Uh some some people might
06:08:01
Brian Atlassay, "Oh, you should probably whoop some ass." Um but given the the numbers, it's a little risky. Um >> yeah, the guys deserve a smack in the face, but if the odds are against you,
06:08:14
Brian Atlas>> call them out. >> Well, that would be an escalation. I think the best thing is just like extract yourself from from the scenario. Now, say it's one guy and you're the
06:08:25
Brian Atlasboyfriend and you're doing an assessment like maybe the guy needs a bit of a smack. But in any case, I think bare minimum you got to you got to remove your girl from the situation. Um,
06:08:38
Brian Atlas>> if he did, they would get kicked out though. So, I don't >> This was a big deal for you though because uh you said he was being a coward essentially. He walked away from you when it happened. Um, >> you lean your head back a little bit.
06:08:50
Brian Atlas>> Me? >> Yeah. Uh, and so this is an we're not going to linger on it too long just for the sake of time, but I do think that there's a sort of
06:08:59
Brian Atlasasymmetry here when it comes to um, expectations. And it's like
06:09:08
Brian Atlaswomen do have an expectation that men uh like to be a coward, you might say, could be, how do I want to frame this properly?
06:09:19
Brian AtlasHere's how I'd frame it. Uh cowardice in men is going to be massively negative appra negatively appraised by women. But like cowardice in women, that's not going to really
06:09:30
Brian Atlasmajorly like depends exactly what we're talking about. But in the same situ situation, like let's say there's four girls like [ __ ] with me and my girlfriend kind of's like is hesitant to
06:09:42
Andrew Wilsonlike tell, you know, she either doesn't say shut the [ __ ] up or she kind of like >> I'd be in there screaming. >> Well, >> but it's understandable that they don't they're not judged harshly for >> I wouldn't Yeah, I wouldn't judge a
06:09:54
Brian Atlasgirlfriend if she didn't like >> start [ __ ] or even if it was like say there's not a a number thing. Let's just say it's like one girl talking [ __ ] to me and my girlfriend's with me. I'm not going to like look at my girlfriend and
06:10:07
Brian Atlasbe like, "Well, aren't you going to go give her smack in the face?" I'm going to be like, "Nah, let's just get out of this." Like, >> I I I wouldn't be negatively assessing her for her inaction or lack of action in that situation.
06:10:20
Mary Jane>> Protect her. >> That can be protective in its own way. deescalation and just like it's not necessarily avoiding but also like >> protecting yourself, protecting your energy and you know
06:10:33
Brian Atlas>> fighting violence isn't always the answer especially if like you're outnumbered and >> I agree but what we're talking about is there is a bit of an asymmetry here on the specific issue in the sense because it came up earlier when she was talking about
06:10:45
Brian Atlas>> cowardice and yeah yeah it's like oh she would sacrifice for her boyfriend well even if that's true even if that is the case even if the woman would take the boy the the bullet for the man. Men
06:10:56
Brian Atlastypically don't have the expectation that women do that thing. So if if you are willing to take the bullet for your boyfriend, I mean I guess good for him.
06:11:06
MarsThat that's sort of um perhaps honorable in a masculine sort of way. I guess >> I would, but I wouldn't want to have sex with him after. You know what I'm saying? >> Well, yeah. You stole it.
06:11:18
Brian Atlas>> You saved him, so you don't have to. >> I'll move off of that then whoever you want just for sake of time. Uh but you are Ella, you are against porn, modern feminist culture, online dating, and you're also against 50-50 relationships. Is that correct?
06:11:31
Brian Atlas>> Yes. Yeah. >> Now, we we'll skip those first few, but uh for the 50-50 relationships, so you're against 50/50 relationships. >> Yes. Yeah. And
06:11:41
Ella>> so what is a 50-50 relationship? I think ultimately it comes down to and we've talked about this a lot today of kind of like a tit fortat relationship
06:11:52
Ellaof really going down to analyze okay you do x for me I do x for you you know ideally both people are going to put 100% of their effort and 100% that they
06:12:04
Ellacan into the relationship and you know naturally that will look different um so it might >> like non-transactional >> yeah non-transactional you know In my
06:12:14
Ellarelationship with my last boyfriend, we lived together and he paid the rent and I did the cooking and the cleaning. Um, but during part of that time, I also went to massage school. So, there'd be times when, you know, I'd go off to
06:12:27
Ellaschool and the house wouldn't necessarily be clean or anything. And, you know, he'd clean for me and help when I got home. But then, of course, you know, I was practicing massage on him all the time, so he was getting that kind of benefit. >> That's a pretty good deal. I'm not going to lie.
06:12:39
Ella>> Yeah. I mean, it it was a good way that worked for both of us where I was cooking the majority of the meals, including the majority of the time, and he was also paying for the rent and the food, and we were living together. >> That's nice.
06:12:50
Ella>> Um, and he he definitely would help me out with things. You know, I also had pretty bad menration at the time, so he was he was very mindful of that and of learning the four phases. He he did do
06:13:01
Ellahis his research into that. Um, but you know, then there's the benefit as well of the things that I would do for him. I often sewed for him and made things for him. Um, and then also massages
06:13:14
Brian Atlasnaturally. You got a table. >> Okay. I I see what you're saying. Yeah. >> I'm curious on this. This has come up uh on a recent show. >> Um, and we were talking actually it was kind of you that set off some of the
06:13:27
Brian Atlasearlier conversations. We're talking about being submissive. Mhm. >> Um, as part of this dynamic, if you reject 50/50 relationship, I assume you want the man to take more of a leadership role in the relationship or or it seems you're a bit negotiable on
06:13:40
Ellathat. It seemed seemed like >> Yeah, because ultimately, you know, I don't want to speak in 100% because I think that there's ultimately things that we both know better about,
06:13:51
Ellaespecially when it comes to children. for example, like the mothers naturally during the early development years. I mean, it's a little bit of both because generally wh women will be a little too
06:14:03
Ellaoverprotective with the children and then the fathers are really beneficial because they help expose them to more risks, but the mothers are also more in tune with >> Yeah. Yeah. How about how about this scenario? And I'm going to this is a question for the whole panel.
06:14:15
Brian Atlas>> Um this is something that I've tangled with in my own relationship. So I will actually reveal uh some some details uh or not even just relationships but
06:14:26
Brian Atlasdating. So it's my preference >> that uh I have uh separate bedrooms
06:14:37
Brian Atlas>> with whoever I'm dating. Now this and even if we're not living together like let's say well let's say I'm in a long-distance relationship and my girlfriend comes to visit me for a week.
06:14:48
Brian AtlasI prefer to sleep in my own space, my bedroom, and I have a guest room for her. It's not like, "Okay, go sleep in the tent outside. She's got a cozy
06:14:58
Brian Atlaslittle space. She's got her own place." I've some women, not a problem at all. Yes, Brian. Totally fine. Not an issue. Other women have given me substantial
06:15:08
Brian Atlaspush back on this. Substantial push back. Uh they nag, they argue, they throw a hissy fit, they they crash out. uh they they get upset, they nag. Um so
06:15:20
Brian AtlasI'm curious to you guys uh I'm sure some of you guys maybe want a guy to be a leader in a relationship. Uh so I would believe submission in this example would
06:15:31
Brian Atlasbe uh it's it's okay for women to perhaps be uh to want something and to perhaps be uh frustrated if they don't get it. I understand most women probably
06:15:42
Brian Atlaswant to share a bed with the same guy. Although some women are actually enjoy this preference too. But I think that if even if it's something that you want and your your boyfriend or me in this case
06:15:53
Brian Atlassays no, it's not going to be that way. Internally, you might be like uh a bit let down. But I think a woman's duty in terms of obeying and being submissive is
06:16:03
Brian Atlasto regulate her response to that and not crash out and be vexacious and contentious and and nagging and really upset by it and hurt. And I think
06:16:15
Brian Atlas>> all about compromise. >> Ideally, there is no compromise on this. >> I think you're valid to have that position. >> Let me let me just finish the point here. >> Let me just finish the point. And so I think this is how the conversation
06:16:27
Brian Atlasshould go. Mhm. >> It should go. By the way, I uh I vet for this guy before you before you date. >> I I asked the girl >> and they agree. Yes. They changed their position. >> Some girls are like, "Well, I do like
06:16:39
Brian Atlasit, but um I'll acquies to you." And acquies is a key word I want to use here when it comes to the submissive dynamic. I believe that at least with this um and really frankly all things, most things
06:16:51
Brian Atlasanyways, I believe the woman ought to and should acquies to the man. And in this case on this specific topic uh do you guys I guess what do you think should the woman acquies
06:17:05
Ellato me? >> Yeah. >> Let me start with you and we'll go around the table. >> I yeah I actually do have personal experience with that cuz we lived together in in two houses. One of them was a very small onebedroom. We later moved into a two-bedroom together. And
06:17:18
Ellawe actually did have separate bedrooms which was his idea. And um at first I wasn't a big fan of it because I really liked going to bed together. But
06:17:30
Ellaultimately then it ended up working out and I liked kind of having my own space and then every night before I'd go to bed I'd tell him, "Okay, I'm going to bed." And he'd come and tuck me in, be all nice and all of that. And that was able to make >> He tucks you in.
06:17:42
Brian Atlas>> Yeah, cuz he go to bed before me. >> The girl Oh, okay. Okay. That's >> No, I would go to bed. >> The girl needs to do the talking. Okay. The girl's got to do the talking. I I go to bed at like 10:00 p.m. He's up till 2:00 a.m. So then he'd go into the room. >> That makes sense.
06:17:54
Ella>> And you know, I'd have the blanket on and and all of that and he say, "Okay, good night. Sleep well." >> You know, very nice. And it it ended up working out pretty well for us. >> Okay. All right. What do you guys think?
06:18:04
Megan Loftess>> Um I prefer to like sleep in bed with somebody, but and if it was like an every night scenario, like you could never like cuddle me to bed and sleep with me next to me. Like that kind of I
06:18:16
Megan Loftessdon't like that. Like I've never experienced that on an everyday basis, but I've been in a twobedroom hotel with my boyfriend before. And they would be like and he was like he had said, "Oh,
06:18:28
Megan LoftessI'm not comfortable right now." He was squirming and everything. He goes, "I just want to go sleep over here." And I just was like, "Oh, okay." And then >> any push back on that? >> No, cuz I was too tired. Also, like we're on vacation. I don't want to fight
06:18:42
Megan Loftesswith him. But no, I don't think it's a fightable scenario. Now, if he was like, "I'll never sleep in bed with you." Do you >> I'm not going to fight you on that. I'm just not going to be with you. So, >> uh are you married or >> No, absolutely not. But I am >> You're in a relationship for how long
06:18:56
Megan Loftessagain? >> Not very long. >> 6 months is it? >> It's been It's on and off. I've never been in a very healthy, strong relationship in my life. So, okay. >> Obviously, I'm not >> But do you do you guys live together currently? >> No. >> Okay.
06:19:09
Megan Loftess>> No, we both live with our parents actually. We're both very like take care of our parents sort of people. Oh, I'm just trying to understand the context for like the sleepovers then, I guess. But >> we were specifically at a hotel. Now, normally when I sleep over at his house,
06:19:22
Brian Atlaswe do sleep together in the same bed. >> Well, that that might be out of But does he have a guest room? Because like if there's if you have a onebedroom if you have a one-bedroom apartment,
06:19:33
Brian Atlasthen uh >> Well, then he's poor, right? Okay. Well, no. What I'm trying to say is like just practically speaking, if there's no other place for the woman to to sleep, but I mean, uh, let's say let's say you
06:19:45
Brian Atlasguys he moved and he got a two-bedroom apartment and the other one was a guest room and your boyfriend or whatever was like, "Hey, uh, can you um go sleep in the guest room?" Would you give him push
06:19:57
Megan Loftessback? >> I guess it just depends how often he did it >> to the mic. Every night. If he did it every night, >> I guess I just really wouldn't I just
06:20:09
Brian Atlaswouldn't like that. I've never been in a scenario like that. But I really don't like that. >> Well, I understand you don't like it, but if like that determination has been made, either it I mean, you can make >> if I had my own room, my own autonomy,
06:20:21
Megan Loftessand my own stuff, I mean, yes, I would like that. I really I guess I really wouldn't have a big problem with it. I would feel a little less close at night, but if we at least cuddled before bed,
06:20:31
Megan Loftessthen I had my own space in bed. I couldn't complete. I wouldn't argue with it. It sounds actually accommodating. >> Okay. What about you? >> Um well, I mean, I kind of already do
06:20:44
Courtney (MS)this half the time with my husband cuz he works offshore, but we're not in the same house for two weeks. So, um I >> Well, assuming a situation where he's like
06:20:54
Courtney (MS)>> he's at the house there. Um, I guess it would just depend on I mean I don't think that's a make it would I don't think it would be a deal breaker
06:21:05
Courtney (MS)for me per se and but that would it would definitely be a conversation to see if >> conversation. >> Yeah, like a conversation because
06:21:15
Courtney (MS)>> you know even though I'm >> what is that word that you use um to submit to submissive? Yeah, you used
06:21:23
Courtney (MS)another word but whatever it is. Yeah. >> Um, even though I'm willing to acquies with him
06:21:32
Courtney (MS)as his wife um, in our in our household, I still, you know, like I still would want to have that conversation and be
06:21:43
Courtney (MS)like, is there a reason why, you know, what is the reason? Because just like he needs security, I also need security. And that would be something that would probably make me feel a little insecure.
06:21:54
Courtney (MS)But if I could understand the mechanism behind it, >> I could probably go with it. Now, if it was something that's like, oh, you snore or something or I don't like you, I don't like sleeping next to you. I might
06:22:07
Brian AtlasI might have like I'm not going to push back. >> Here, I'll explain that. Um, so here would be the scenario. Uh yes, sleeping in the same bed together can be like an
06:22:18
Brian Atlasextra like 1 2 3% intimacy, however you want to uh put a number to it, but his position would be he gets better sleep
06:22:28
Brian Atlasquality sleeping in his own room. Um it's it could be say he it's harder for him to sleep in the same room as somebody. Let's just say that's the hypothetical. Uh
06:22:41
Brian Atlasand so he explains that to you. Is any further because you said I'd like to have a conversation. >> Yeah. >> Is any further conversation needed? >> No, not really. >> Okay. So, would you just immediately
06:22:52
Courtney (MS)accept it? >> Um, I mean, I would probably feel some type of way, but I would process it. Um, typically if we have a conversation and I feel
06:23:03
Courtney (MS)emotional, I sleep on it. And then if I'm still emotional about it in the morning, I usually can articulate why I was upset about something. Okay. >> So, it just depends.
06:23:14
Brian Atlas>> Uh I'll continue around the table, but let me I guess add a little more in uh information here. So, at least my own take on this is that uh my sleep quality
06:23:24
Brian Atlasuh supersedes the woman's desire for like plus 1% intimacy or whatever. Uh so, >> D&D formula >> essentially like you know plus 5% luck
06:23:36
Brian Atlasum plus 5% intimacy. Yeah, my sleep quality completely supersedes uh the woman's desire for for that specific form of intimacy. To be clear, don't
06:23:47
Brian Atlasdon't mischaracterize my position. That's not to say that int intimacy is not important. It doesn't matter that and that uh all intimacy is relevant. I'm saying that particular form of
06:23:58
Brian Atlasintimacy uh the woman's desire in this situation I think does not supersede my desire for getting a restful good night's sleep so that I can be the one
06:24:10
Brian Atlasto continue providing as I am. >> I mean I don't disagree with that. I don't think that's fair. >> And look, you know, I'm not a total monster. Anniversary, Valentine's Day,
06:24:22
Brian AtlasI'll allow it. I'll allow it. >> Unless you really need your sleep that night. >> True. True. If I Hey, even her birthday. If I really need my like if her birthday
06:24:34
Brian Atlasfalls like the night before a show, to the guest room she goes. To the guest room she goes. I don't care if it's her birthday. I got to work. I got something going on, you know? So, but I'm not a total monster, you know. I'm I'm a nice
06:24:46
Megan Loftessguy like that. What can I say? All right. What do you think? I think that it's that you have the right to ask for those things if it's your home, >> right? >> Sure. >> Um, personally for me, um, I think I
06:25:00
Megan Loftesswould I would prefer to come to a compromise of maybe one night a week that we spend in bed together. Um, but if I had a partner that I lived with and they were like, "Nope, I I need my own space. I need my own bedroom." Then I
06:25:12
Megan Loftesswould acquies to them. >> Is where's Kayla? Huh? Is Kayla here? Maybe bathroom.
06:25:25
Brian Atlas>> I think she might have. She had her bag on, but >> Oh, okay. Well, all right. I wanted to get to some stuff with her, but Okay. Uh, here. Quick answers, guys. >> Okay. So, we never have like sleepovers
06:25:38
Brian Atlasever, >> like like a once in a while sleepover. >> Well, she Wait, wait, wait. She sleeps over at my house, but she can have a guest. >> No, no. I'm saying like sleepovers in each other's bedrooms.
06:25:50
Anya (Ana Lacy)>> It's not my preference. >> The only the only thing that would really keep me away from it is security. So for me, like one of my favorite things about sleeping in the same room
06:26:01
Anya (Ana Lacy)as a man is my is firearms. So knowing that some if somebody breaks in like he's got that handled because I sleep like a [ __ ] rock. >> Yeah. I mean that's actually compelling. But um >> so if you could >> So all I have to do is take the room
06:26:15
Anya (Ana Lacy)closest to the door. >> Yes. Exactly. And my room would have to be like far away from any windows that are like close to the street. System. That's perfect. That's totally fine. So
06:26:26
Sarah (Angelique)as long as you can secure the house. >> Um I've seen both sides of it. Um so my grandparents both sides they're one's going on 71 years and the other is going on 67. But they one side sleeps in
06:26:38
Sarah (Angelique)separate bedrooms. they decided to do that and then the other side um sleeps together obviously and I think my personal preference would be you know
06:26:49
Sarah (Angelique)understanding what the man wants if he prefers that or not and I am a person that might be a little bit more needy so >> um >> wait we have a
06:27:01
Mia>> uh here let's do this can I have you three shift down >> and then >> like all of us >> yeah I mean she's gone so uh go ahead I've actually been in a relationship like this where it was my idea that we
06:27:13
Miahad different bedrooms and it was solely because I am a very like OCD person and I'd like my stuff to stay in a neat order and I thought it was better that he just was messy in his own space and
06:27:26
Miait did end up leading into us sleeping in different spots. Apparently I also snore so I mean it probably benefited him so I don't mind at all and I would I mean I think it was me that proposed the
06:27:38
Diana Sixtoidea not him. So, I think that it is a personal preference and I hope it's something you discuss before you know getting into a serious relationship and if they're okay with it, then cool. And if they're not, then you probably shouldn't be in a relationship with
06:27:51
Mary Janesomeone you're not compatible with, period. I think that it's valid to want that, especially if you're discussing it prior to the relationship, giving them that option to move forward with you knowing
06:28:03
Mary Janethat. Um, I have done the dynamic before. Uh, but we also still slept together. But, um, I also like my space. I like laying out like a starfish when I
06:28:13
Mary Janesleep sometimes. But I think I would still want like some nights together. Otherwise, I don't think I could be with someone like that. >> Okay. What about you? >> Yeah, honestly, same same exact thing. I
06:28:25
Marstotally would not mind separate rooms. In fact, for my future, when I do live with a male, I am definitely going to want us to have separate rooms. But
06:28:35
Marssleeping together, I would not be okay with separate sleeping every single night. I would
06:28:45
Marsneed some sort of um a um like cooperation when my thinking of um Sorry, my Compromise compromise. Yes.
06:28:59
Anya (Ana Lacy)>> Me. >> Yeah. >> You women need to read a book called a book titled A Child Called It by Dave Pelzer. An autobiography of the author being abused by his alcoholic single mother, including being stabbed and
06:29:10
Anya (Ana Lacy)eating vomit just to survive while sleeping on an army caught in the basement doing house chores. >> Thank you for that. >> I have also read this one, please. >> Um,
06:29:21
Brian Atlas>> lady, your confidence far exceeds your competence. Shame you. Shame you. >> Thank you, man. Appreciate Appreciate it. >> Uh here, let's go to Twitch really quick. Can you pull up Twitch? Uh guys,
06:29:32
Brian Atlasgo to twitch.tv/ whatever. Drop us a follow. Drop us a prime sub. Guys, we um we barely run any ads over there on Twitch. We don't do pre-rolls over there
06:29:41
Brian Atlason Twitch. Uh crazy. Can you pull it up? uh you know we got a uh pretty pretty high uh you know effort that goes into
06:29:52
Brian Atlasthe production of this. Uh it's expensive to run this operation. You know again I'm not just like some dude playing video games like a lot of these streamers on Twitch. Not again not that
06:30:04
Brian Atlasthere's anything wrong with that but our production time, production effort, production costs far exceed uh almost all of the content that you see over there on Twitch. So, uh, Coupe, thank
06:30:15
Brian Atlasfor the gifted 10 subs. DaVon, thank for the 25. So, if you guys can check if you have an Amazon Prime sub available, drop us a Prime sub if you have one available. And, uh, I'm trying to think
06:30:26
Brian Atlasif there's anything else. Yeah, guys, it's six figures a year to, uh, run this show. So, uh, would really appreciate you guys showing us some support over there on Twitch just by dropping us a
06:30:38
Brian Atlasfollow and a prime sub if you have one. GED, thank you for the prime sub. Appreciate it, guys. Um, we have a uh question here, but I'm not able to pull it up. So, uh, the question is, on a
06:30:50
Brian Atlasscale of 0 to 10, what do you rate your looks? >> Uh, and let's do face, body, total, starting with you. >> So, not an overall, this is separate
06:31:02
Brian Atlasratings. >> So, you're saying just physical. >> Yeah. 0 to 10. Your physical looks, rate your face, rate body, and then like your total rating. So don't when I say total
06:31:13
Brian AtlasI don't mean add your face rating and your body rating so you get like 20. Uh I just mean like what you average >> sort of. >> Uh okay. Go ahead.
06:31:24
Mars>> That's yours. >> Okay. I would rate my face a 9.99. My body a 9.99. Overall a 9.99
06:31:36
Andrew Wilson>> because perfection is impossible. There's always room for improvement. But as far as like as perfect as you can get without being perfect, you
06:31:48
Marsdefinitely fall in that threshold. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Well, God did all and he makes no mistakes, right? >> Are you religious? >> God, >> are you religious?
06:31:58
Mars>> I'm I'm I am Jewish and I follow Judaism. I'm I'm a reformed >> Jewish lady. >> 10. >> Well, face body total. >> Yes. So, well, so it would look
06:32:10
Brian Atlassomething like this. >> Face 10, body 10, total 10. >> Yes. >> Not just yes. Can you say it in your own words?
06:32:18
Diana Sixto>> Face 10, body 10, total 10. >> Uh, I don't like to rate people on their looks personally. And uh, the only person I care about, you know, who cares
06:32:31
Diana Sixtoabout my rating would be my boyfriend. That's basically it. So, >> well, I get that you don't like to rate people on their looks, but I'm asking you to rate yourself. >> Well, there's no such thing as a 10 in my opinion because nobody is perfect.
06:32:43
Diana SixtoAnd I think that, you know, if somebody likes a bleached blonde Latina, then they might find me. >> Let's not answer. No, but somebody that doesn't might call me a four or whatever. >> What do you think of yourself?
06:32:54
Diana Sixto>> I think highly of myself, but I >> don't want to give an exact rating. Yeah. Maybe you can go around and rape people afterwards. >> Oh, yeah. >> Do you Can I throw out a guess? Do you
06:33:08
Diana Sixtothink you're a 10? >> I don't believe I'm perfect. Absolutely not. >> Do you think you're How about this? Do you think you're a nine? >> I It depends. My My boyfriend definitely does. He actually thinks I'm a 10. >> To yourself, like in the mirror, what do you think you are?
06:33:21
Diana Sixto>> I I don't know. It depends on a preference. I really, you know, >> your preference doesn't mean I really get mixed reviews. your review of you.
06:33:31
Diana Sixto>> I think I am above average attractive for sure. Basic five and 10. >> All right. I'm not going to get caught up between five and 10. Sure. >> All right. What about you? >> Mhm.
06:33:42
Mia>> Eight face, eight body, eight overall. Maybe less tattoos. I'd be n either speak closer to the mic or project your voice, please. >> Eight face, eight body. Uh overall,
06:33:52
Sarah (Angelique)eight. >> Um 8.5 face. Um, maybe seven. Can I choose seven? 7. Six. Body. And then overall eight.
06:34:04
Brian Atlas>> Wait. I am so [ __ ] sorry. Hold on. >> Oh, >> wait, wait, wait. >> Supposed to write it down. >> Uh, I needed to write it down. [ __ ] Okay. 9.99999 10. Uh, this is a refuse. You said, can
06:34:17
Sarah (Angelique)you repeat? >> Um, eight face, eight body, eight overall, I guess. >> Okay. What about you? Um 8.5 uh face and then can you choose seven? Is that possible? Or
06:34:29
Sarah (Angelique)>> I'll accept it for now. >> Okay. Seven body and then eight overall >> total. Okay. Anya >> uh five face, four body. So like four and a half.
06:34:38
Megan Loftess>> Okay. You underrate yourself but Okay. >> I would say uh nine face, eight body, eight overall. >> Uh
06:34:49
Megan Loftesssorry, repeat that. Nine for my face, eight for my body, eight overall. >> Okay. Uh, what about you?
06:35:00
Courtney (MS)>> I would say a four for my face, a three for my body, and um maybe like I guess a 3.5 overall. >> Okay. What about you?
06:35:13
Brian Atlas>> Um, >> breath. Do we need the breath? Okay. not allowed to breathe. It's like trying. >> It's about to be my turn to Oh my god,
06:35:24
Megan Loftess>> I need to quit this. Um, okay. Go ahead. >> Um, I think like my body's more of like a six even though it's like got what's
06:35:33
Megan Loftessthe word? It's got promise if I really put my mind to it. But no. Um, I'm good genetics, but am I using them? All right. So, I'm like six body. Let's go
06:35:43
Megan Loftessthere. And then let's go with like give myself a seven for my face. An overall seven. >> Nice. >> Yeah. I don't know. I'm not a big fan of
06:35:56
Ellathis question, so I'm not going to answer it. I think I'm attractive enough. >> Be a good sport. Be a good sport. Come on. >> I don't know. I mean, I think I'm attractive enough, and it really depends on the day when you look at yourself, you know. So,
06:36:08
Ella>> most days if you averaged how you viewed yourself, >> I don't know. I just don't want to answer the question. I I think I'm >> attractive enough. >> We all knew we'd be asked.
06:36:20
Brian Atlas>> Is that That's an omit. Okay. All right. I'll accept it for now. Uh Andrew, what do you rate yourself? >> Uh 10 face, 10 body, 10. >> 100% a 10.
06:36:30
SPEAKER_01>> All right. I give myself uh 4.5. 4.5. 4.5. >> I don't know why. Why is anybody laughing? >> What? What the [ __ ] >> No, I'm just enjoying
06:36:41
Brian Atlas>> Are you saying Are Wait, are you saying that I have a much higher opinion of myself than is actually true? We enjoy your confidence as well, though. >> Yeah, we enjoy it, too. Uh, wow. I've
06:36:51
Brian Atlasmanaged to once again I I don't know how to do this. Uh, I've I've It's the Avengers of Supermodels, I guess. We got
06:37:00
Brian Atlas9.99, a 10. Uh this was a refuse 8 8.5 9. Uh so wow we have a 9.999 or 9.99 a
06:37:11
Diana Sixto10 an eight an eight a nine. >> But can we be serious too? The omits thought they were tens right like >> no you conservatives on the show and they're going to respond conservatively. So
06:37:25
Diana Sixto>> there's nothing that precludes a conservative woman from having an assessment or ranking of her own attractiveness. It's not incompatible with conservatism. >> That's a that's a personal opinion. I think that would be anti-conservative. >> Yeah. What would actually make that
06:37:39
Diana Sixtoincompatible? >> Well, I think that's about, you know, acting like a lady and raiding my I've never in my life, I'm 32 years old, have never raided my body in front of people and I don't feel like I need to do that. >> But how would that make you less of a
06:37:51
Courtney (MS)lady? I don't understand how that makes you less of a lady. >> I watched the show enough to know this was coming up with it. >> Can you tilt your mic down there? Like tilt it down. Um >> I agree. >> Conservatism is a political ideology.
06:38:05
Diana SixtoWhy? Why? >> It's a cultural ideology, too. >> What's the call yourself conservative? >> But you're not even t >> So your version of conservative is equal to t. But most women that call
06:38:17
Diana Sixtothemselves conservative are not tad. your definition of it. >> So, um, so that's what I'm saying. You know, I think it's I think >> Well, then how is it cultural? What's
06:38:27
Andrew Wilsonthe cultural respectful to just respect her opinion and to pass? >> Yeah, it's fine to I get that a dating show. >> I understand the omission thing. I get that. I understand. I just don't
06:38:39
Andrew Wilsonunderstand how it would makes you less conservative to give an assessment to give an assessment of uh what you think your face looks like or what you think your body looks like to the general public
06:38:50
Diana Sixto>> because I think my value is focused elsewhere. That's why >> what does that I don't even know what the [ __ ] that means. >> I think uh my value doesn't come from my looks. It comes from how I carry myself,
06:39:02
Andrew Wilsonmy virtue. >> Saying anything, but I don't understand. How do we get to the loaded aspect of your self-worth is tied in or somehow you're less valuable because it's the case that you rate yourself higher or
06:39:15
Andrew Wilsonlower on your looks. >> I It's just not something I do. Period. >> Yeah, I know. But I I get that, but I don't understand how that would devalue you at all. >> I didn't say it. It's just something I don't personally do.
06:39:28
Diana Sixto>> No, no. I mean, you did say that though. You said, "I think there's better things or something like this on." Yes. that I that I judge myself on that I actually attribute value to myself on. Yes, there are plenty. >> Well, I mean, but you don't wake up you
06:39:41
Diana Sixtodon't wake up in the morning and put on a bunch of makeup on your personality. >> You put it on your face, right? >> Every that's on every single day. That's why that's why it's more of an accurate assessment to
06:39:54
Andrew Wilson>> give myself a rating on my personality instead of uh my looks because >> Yeah. Right. But if you couldn't if you couldn't assess your looks, you wouldn't put makeup on your face because otherwise you wouldn't know how to enhance it, right? >> Say that again.
06:40:06
Andrew Wilson>> How why would you ever use makeup on your face unless you were using it to enhance features about your face that you liked? >> Um because I feel like it makes me look better, feel better. >> So it enhances the features that you
06:40:19
Andrew Wilsonlike and that you think appear good to other people. So you are making those value judgments every day. >> Yes. for myself. >> And that's all we're asking is for the value judgments of yourself.
06:40:31
Andrew Wilson>> Okay? But that's fine. But then don't pretend you don't make the value judgments cuz that's what you were doing. You were pretending I don't make those value judgments. That's not >> when you clearly make the value
06:40:42
Diana Sixtojudgments every single day. >> That's not what I normally value myself overall. Can I can I wake up look in the mirror and say nobody said it was today I look a little
06:40:52
Andrew Wilson>> Did anybody ever say that the overarching way that you value yourself is only in physical appearance that that ever of course so all we're asking >> was how you value yourself in physical
06:41:04
Diana Sixtoappearance I just don't do that and then we we figured out you do actually do that every single day. Yeah, it depends how, you know, the clothes I want to wear that day and the makeup I want to do that day depending on the occasion. If it's more casual of a day, if I'm
06:41:19
Andrew Wilsondoing >> Well, my assumption is like you don't wake up in the morning, go over and grab lipstick and just smear it all over your forehead and all over your neck and then walk outside to the grocery store like that, right? >> No, no, no,
06:41:30
Megan Loftess>> no. So, you like use it to enhance features that you have, right? She also dyed her hair a whole different color on the opposite thing like >> Yeah. Right. >> What's that choice for?
06:41:42
Diana Sixto>> Likely to enhance characteristics about yourself. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> That's all the questions asking. >> I think absolutely. You know, I think everybody does that. I think men do that with a beard. If most men shape their beard, but that's not in question
06:41:56
Andrew Wilsondifferently. >> That's literally not I agree 100%. >> Do you like your beard because it enhances your lips? >> Definitely do. Very well. No, I have a beard cuz I'm just [ __ ] lazy. But the point is is like, >> do you think it would it does enhance your looks or it doesn't?
06:42:09
Andrew Wilson>> I don't know. >> Oh, well, so you don't want to talk about >> I Well, I actually just don't know the answer to that. >> I don't know if it enhances my looks or not. Probably >> probably it does. >> Maybe. I think it's
06:42:20
Andrew Wilson>> but the thing is is like uh that aside that literally it's not in dispute that I look in the mirror >> and give myself an assessment of my appearance and then change the appearance based on the assessment for
06:42:32
Andrew Wilsonthe thing I want like oh I'm doing a big interview probably not going to not comb the hair and put on like nice clothes right yeah >> so I can make those value judgments >> correct >> yeah so that's that's all we're asking for
06:42:45
Andrew Wilson>> one to 10 scale >> that's my personal opin Well, the the one the 1 to 10 scale is just saying you're taking what you generally see in society >> and then you're applying it against what you think you look like in in comparison
06:42:59
Andrew Wilsonto that. >> I I understand the concept of that. >> Yeah. So, I don't I don't know I don't know why that's not conservative though. >> Don't want to participate in that because >> that's fine. You don't have to participate. I just you know when you
06:43:10
Diana Sixtosay I just don't judge myself on that. That's where I'm like yes you do. >> Yeah. Most people judge how they look and when they go out the door, whatever. Yeah.
06:43:20
Brian Atlas>> You know what? Uh I do I I forgot to say this. Why is it that uh average women just average looking women just don't view themselves as average?
06:43:32
Megan LoftessWhy is that? >> What is an average woman? >> Well, here we can What do you mean just average looking? Sorry. >> I think that average women is average. I think average women rate themselves maybe a little bit higher because they want to practice self-confidence. >> Mhm.
06:43:46
Brian Atlas>> And have self worth. >> That's not You can be confident and be able to >> That would be deception, right? >> That that's not confidence. >> Isn't it kind of where you are? >> Selfdeception.
06:43:58
Mia>> I actually have a question yourself lowying to yourself, too. >> What do you rate a 10? And have you ever had a 10 on the show >> or a nine? Sorry. 10 is high. tennis
06:44:09
Megan Loftesskind of uns exist agree on that then I think it's hard for people to admit that there's something wrong with them like person I need to lose weight it would be healthier for me
06:44:20
Megan Loftessto lose weight but there are people in this world who would see criticizing themselves like that or judging themselves like that >> would hurt their self-esteem and admit have to admit that they are not perfect
06:44:32
Brian Atlaswhich no one is >> I mean we could we could pull up photos of of famous female male supermodels. Um, I think perhaps uh Adriana Lima when
06:44:43
Brian Atlasshe was younger might be a good example of a woman who was uh exceptionally uh attractive and beautiful. >> Um, again, I don't think tens exist, but
06:44:56
Brian Atlasshe's definitely a nine. She's definitely a nine. >> Um, >> I've been waiting to ask you this one. >> We're going to we're going to come back to the rating thing, but really quick, I do want to go around the table. Just show of hands really quick. Who here thinks men are insecure if they care
06:45:08
Brian Atlasabout body count? Show of hands. Do you think it's insecure if a man like cares about a woman's body count? >> I think that's a component. >> Okay. All right. Nobody. Nobody. You think it's insecure? >> I think it it has a little insecurity to
06:45:23
Megan Loftessit. >> Insecure. You think? >> I think it's a little insecure. Yeah, it's I mean, but like by by little bit. I I wouldn't think every person
06:45:34
Megan LoftessI've ever dated has asked me. You know, it's been a very minute amount of men that would have asked me on a first date or anything like that. >> Okay. >> And that it is a little unattractive in
06:45:45
Brian Atlasthe sense of how personal that question and it might be on like a very low level of knowing that person. >> Mhm. So, are we all asking? >> I think it's totally val I think it's super valid. That should be one of your
06:45:57
Brian Atlasvetting questions as a man. What's your body count? Vet. Vet. you got to vet, you know. But, uh, I think, you know, some guys don't care. That's fine, too, I guess, for them if that's what they want. >> I also think I think it's cope, too. Go ahead.
06:46:09
Brian Atlas>> Well, let me ask the question first. Uh, so, okay, some of you seem to think it's insecure, some not. Uh, going around the table, what's your body count?
06:46:19
Mars>> Okay. Um, honest answer then. Sure. Um, my rating maybe wasn't the most honest answer, but um I mean like it is, but it's I I can actually put a number on
06:46:31
Marsthis, you know, >> somewhat. I can put a range. >> Um, >> ready when you are. >> Definitely above 55.
06:46:41
MarsI'd say somewhere in the 60s to somewhere in the 60s is what I came up with, which I did kind of check this out few months ago. Like, do you have a list on your phone? >> I do keep a list of everyone that I have
06:46:55
Brian Atlashad intercourse with. >> It's on your phone. >> Yes, it is. >> Would you be willing to read the list? >> First names. >> Like, I guess. >> Okay, we'll do that later. Um, remind me. >> Some of them. Some of them aren't on the list because um
06:47:08
Mars>> Well, you >> because some of them I don't >> it was like just the tip or what? I mean, >> um, no. So, >> did you put jobs on the list? >> There was. Okay. So there's been a few
06:47:20
Marstimes as as a sex worker as a sex worker there have been some times that I have done full service work and so those ones I did not >> I didn't say
06:47:31
Mars>> those not you not you >> those ones I did not add to my list >> so you don't count your customers >> no and I don't do I that's not generally I'm not really a fullervice sex
06:47:43
Brian Atlas>> but you have had sex for money >> but I have done it before >> but you have had sex for money >> yes Okay. Do you count them >> on your body count? >> They're not on my They're on my body count, but they're not on like my little list of clothes. >> It's different. Your body count is
06:47:56
Diana Sixtodifferent from the list body count, >> right? >> Oh, seven. >> Okay, >> that's an unladylike question to answer. So, that one, but >> here we are. >> Interesting. Uh, >> I'll just answer.
06:48:08
Brian Atlas>> Well, really quick question for you. Do you think it would be like inappropriate or wrong for a guy to ask that question of you >> like individually one-on-one, not on a podcast?
06:48:20
Diana Sixto>> Yeah, I think if they asked about my past history and relationships, I would be willing to be honest because I have nothing that I am ashamed of. But if they straight up asked me, "Hey, by the way, what's your body count?" I'm
06:48:32
Diana Sixtoeliminating that person from my perspective in dating. >> Yeah. >> Does that make sense? >> It's wrong for men to have any standards. No, it's I think you should because you know match up to what you
06:48:42
Diana Sixtofeel is acceptable for you. So find that out. But the only reason the only way you're going to find out the truth first of all uh you lie >> you might never find out the truth just by asking right
06:48:55
Diana Sixto>> you >> for you or for other women? >> No. If if you were to ask a woman what their body >> We're talking about you. >> Yes, I agree. Women could lie about their body count. >> I absolutely agree. >> But would you lie about it? I I would not because I I don't have anything to
06:49:09
Diana Sixtohave to lie about. But >> but asking it would be disqualifying, >> but being rude about it and not asking about previous relationships and just asking >> Can I frame it like this? Can I frame it like this? So you're
06:49:21
Brian Atlas>> you're with a new guy or whatever and he's like, >> "Hey, uh, Mia Moore, I really like you. You're so is that Spanish? I don't know. >> Sexual spicy.
06:49:31
Brian Atlas>> I really like you. I I see long-term potential here. Uh in fact, I even think you could be my future wife. Maybe that might be cringe to say, but that's his intention, right? That's his intention. And he's like, "Listen, something that
06:49:43
Brian Atlasis uh important to me, look, we >> I have a past. You have a past. Something that's important to me though is I am curious to know >> your uh curious to know your body count." And um
06:49:55
Diana Sixto>> the way that's framed is >> is that acceptable or not? acceptable to ask about previous relationships, but if you mention the words body count, I think that >> even if done in in a uh
06:50:08
Andrew Wilson>> but that's but that isn't that kind of sneaky because Well, hang on, hang on. Isn't it kind of sneaky if it's the case that you say >> it's the way you ask? >> Hang on, hang on. You say, "Hang on. Can I ask the [ __ ] question?" >> Sure.
06:50:20
Andrew Wilson>> Okay. So, isn't it kind of sneaky to be like You can ask about previous relationships. What if it's the case that the woman doesn't count right uh you know other bodies as being a
06:50:32
Andrew Wilsonrelationship whereas a body count is very specific and it's like >> you know what it is that I'm asking then does doesn't that throw a red flag?
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Diana Sixto>> Uh again personally I like to keep my >> very sneaky sneaky Andrew good catch. >> Um I like to be very sexually disciplined. I don't have a what I guess
06:50:53
Diana Sixtoyou guys would consider high body count. Um, but there's no way of knowing if a person uh does have it or not. And I don't think that if you're looking for a wife, you know, somebody serious to be
06:51:05
Diana Sixtoin a relationship with in the future that knowing that information is going to determine whether they have the character to be a long-term wife or anything like that because you can't
06:51:17
Diana Sixtoprove it. So, for example, and I'll give you the example. Um, can you can you for you want somebody that you're with in the future to be clean, right? To not
06:51:26
Diana Sixtohave an STD or anything like that. >> Can somebody who's a virgin have an STD? >> Yes, it's logically possible. >> Yes. So, the only way for you to find that out is by going to get tested, right?
06:51:39
Diana Sixto>> Men care about body count for more reasons than just her STD status. >> Yes, I I agree. But I'm saying if you want a long-term >> well wait a second >> partner >> there's a couple problems here. The
06:51:51
Andrew Wilsonfirst problem is the assumption that you'll never know. >> So the thing that's hilarious Well, no. So here I'll give you an example. >> How are you going to know? >> I I literally just said I would give you an example. >> Go for it.
06:52:04
Andrew Wilson>> That those were my exact words. So anyway, when here's here's a great example of this woman says, "I've only slept with uh four dudes." Right? And the guy's like, "Oh, okay. Well, that's
06:52:14
Andrew Wilsona really small amount, right? Who who are they?" It's, you know, my ex Justin, my ex, you know, Fred, my ex Chuck, and my ex Dan, right? And then, you know,
06:52:24
Andrew Wilsoncouple weeks in, uh, you find out she has another ex named Steve. And you're like, "Hey, how long were you with him?" And you're like, "Three months." And you're like, "Ah, did you emit him from the body count?" Ah,
06:52:35
Andrew Wilson>> yeah. And it's like, well, now you have good reason to suspect that they're a liar. Yeah. So, the thing is like You can actually Hang on. So, you actually can
06:52:46
Andrew Wilson>> Hang on. Let me finish, lady. >> You can indeed actually find out if a woman's being truthful about her body count or not. And if she was lying about that, you should you couldn't easily assume that there's more, right?
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Diana Sixto>> Yes. And you should if you want an honest person to have a relationship with, then you would discard them there. Not even for the additional body, right? But because of the fact that they lied, so you can't trust anything else that they said,
06:53:09
Andrew Wilson>> right? So the thing is is that that would be a deception. But if we're operating under the assumption that well you just have to take her at her word. You can't find out that's actually not true. >> You know what's funny is in her notes in
06:53:22
Brian Atlasher notes it seems relevant. >> Wait wait wait. In her notes she says that she actually runs criminal background checks on men before dating them. >> I didn't actually. >> Yeah. So it's interesting that it seems like
06:53:33
Brian Atlas>> which is totally fine. Totally fine. However, there is a bit of a um she she objects to men inquiring as to
06:53:44
Diana Sixtowomen's past, but doesn't >> I'm not against it. No, I'm not I'm not against it. I'm saying that you wouldn't get the truth whether there's no >> So, you're admitting you would lie about it. >> No, and I have never. >> No, but but there's no reason to assume
06:53:58
Brian Atlasyou're telling >> Why would you assume? But hold on. Women can be honest about this. >> Correct. So women can be honest and women can be as deceptive. But we're asking I'm asking you specifically. So
06:54:09
Diana Sixtofor you it's if if the guy asks the question, it's over >> from the from from the beginning. Yes. I I feel like that's a rude ungentlemanly question to ask. I feel like if they know me and we've talked and they know
06:54:23
Brian Atlasmy past, >> they know what I wouldn't disclose. >> They know my values. >> Which you wouldn't openly disclose. >> They know my values. >> Hold on. I got to come back to this one more question though. Hold on. Let me let me get the answers from people. Body count.
06:54:35
Mia>> Um, well, I heard it resets after a BBL. So, uh, three >> before the three. You have a BBL? >> Yeah, >> it resets after that. I heard
06:54:48
Mia>> So, >> okay. So, three cents the BBL. How about the prior to the BBL? >> It's a little more than three. >> Three cents.
06:55:00
Brian AtlasWhat was it before the What was it before the BBL? >> If I had an answer, I'd tell you, but I don't know. >> Did you forget? >> I don't know. >> Like, you lost track. >> Yeah. >> Here, let me ask it.
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