Andrew Wilson vs. 10 Feminists DEBATE! 3 RAGE QUITS?! SUPER FERAL CHAOS PANEL?! | Dating Talk 283

Date: 2026-02-23

Duration: 10h 01m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMia (Canadian)>

AAndrew Wilson >

AAnya (Ana Lacy)>

CCourtney (MS)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_02Mars(guest)

SPEAKER_03Sarah (Angelique)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Mia(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kayla (Passes)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Mary Jane(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Courtney (MS)(guest)

SPEAKER_10Diana Sixto(guest)

SPEAKER_11Ella(guest)

SPEAKER_12Megan Loftess(guest)

SPEAKER_13Anya (Ana Lacy)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Megan Loftess(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 14 guests introduced - most overbooked ever

Key MomentElla reveals she eats raw chicken and pork, believes in terrain theory

Key MomentAndrew Wilson and Diana Sixto begin marathon prenup/feminism debate

Key MomentAndrew presents force doctrine to the panel

ControversyAndrew gets Diana to accept she is a feminist by definition

Key MomentBrian reads Mars' full dominatrix service menu. Nuclear explosion sound effects.

QuoteElla: circumcision is genital mutilation that should never be done to babies

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

14 people - most overbooked episode ever. Includes Andrew Wilson, Mars (dominatrix), Diana Sixto, Ella (raw meat eater).

Ella's Raw Meat Diet

Eats raw chicken and pork. Believes in terrain theory. Parasites are beneficial.

Prenup Debate: Andrew vs Diana

Extended debate on prenups, women financial independence, marriage as institution.

Chivalry Debate

Brian argues sex workers don't deserve chivalry. Extended panel debate.

Andrew's Force Doctrine

Men monopolize force, women always appeal to men for rights. Feminism dismantling patriarchy is circular.

Mars Dominatrix Services

Brian reads Mars' full service menu including toilet play, CBT, financial domination.

Ella on Circumcision

Final hot take: circumcision is genital mutilation that should be illegal.

Transcript

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Marslike because I am a bit of like a freak in nature. So it describes just fine for me I guess. >> Sure. Uh so you you write that you're

Brian Atlasneurode divergent and you're living very alternatively. So you would say most of your relationship stories are unique as you became a professional in your industry over 5 years ago and you're

Brian Atlasusually in a relationship. You said you like turning men into your your words, my little [ __ ] >> Consent consensually >> is what you say.

Brian Atlas>> Um, so what can you be, I guess, precise? What what does that look like to turn a man into your little [ __ ] >> Well, >> yeah, >> that would mean that not the time to walk back in.

Mars>> That would mean that they're they're my sub and I am their mistress. And technically un unless they're not into the degradation thing, I wouldn't call them my little [ __ ] But most of them

Marsare into degradation and they do come to me so that they can become my little [ __ ] >> Okay. And uh I see. Um so what are >> you know what I was going to ask what

Brian Atlasare some of the ways? But I I looked at your website and on your website I'll read some and if you want to amend or add anything we'll do that. You said your minimum session time is 1 hour for

Brian Atlasa tribute of $450. The suggested session time is 90 minutes for a tribute of $650. So essentially they that's what they're paying you. The type of kinks

Brian Atlasthat you offer are electric play spitting PH. What is that? >> Small penis humiliation. >> Okay. Uh CBT >> [ __ ] and ball torture. So, what we were

Brian Atlastalking about before, uh, public domination, cash meets, drop offs, financial domination, online domination, strap-on play, waxing, manscaping, toilet, toilet play. >> So, you'll shove their head in the

Marstoilet. >> [ __ ] in a man's mouth. >> Holy [ __ ] >> Yo, wait. >> It's on video. It's also on video. >> That is dis Wait, hold on.

Brian Atlas>> Wait. Drop the bombs, dude. Drop the nuke. Wait, I have not used these, guys. I I don't use my stream deck, my my thing much anymore, but I think this is appropriate.

Brian Atlas>> Send the [ __ ] nukes, boys. >> Nuke the [ __ ] whatever podcast studio. Hold on. I'm also sending an asteroid for good measure. >> Holy [ __ ] boys. There you go.

Brian Atlas>> Holy [ __ ] In fact, here's just another missile just to [ __ ] top things off. [ __ ] hat trick with uh Okay, so >> wow that's [ __ ] that's okay. Um really good video impact play.

Mars>> Can you just really quickly impact play? Like just punching hitting. >> I actually don't Well, I mean I'll like punch their ass like it's a form of like

Marsuh less stingy, more you know sometimes they like a thy force. Um, but I impact play is just

Mars>> that like physical domination >> with you can use toys or your hands >> or you can kind of do like a wrestling. Yeah. Bare-handed spanking. >> Humiliation. You do humiliation,

Brian Atlasdegradation. You do pegging, domestic servitude. So that's like basically the guy just like does chores, cleans your house. >> They get the little maid outfit. >> Foot and boot worship. You do feminization, cisification. So you turn

Brian Atlasthe guy into a [ __ ] Yes. [ __ ] Yes. >> Uh fantasy roleplay, corporal >> Uh fantasy roleplay, corporal punishment, bondage, temperature, punishment, bondage, temperature, sensory play. So you like run ice on sensory play. So you like run ice on them or something, I guess. them or something, I guess. >> Yeah. Different things with heat. Fire. >> Yeah. Different things with heat. Fire. I have a candle company where I make my I have a candle company where I make my own natural scent play. What is scent own natural scent play. What is scent

Marsplay? play? >> So scent play is based off of the >> So scent play is based off of the >> the person's attraction to your natural >> the person's attraction to your natural scents. Or it could be could be other scents. Or it could be could be other

Marsscents. So you turn the guy into a scents. I could be playing doing scent play with a variety of essential oils or just something to stimulate that in their brain. But yeah, scent play generally is like my armpits, my feet,

Marsmy ass. >> I want to go home. >> You're here. >> And then uh and then the final thing on the list is cucking. >> Mhm.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So, I just wanted to give some uh some explanation there. Um in terms does that fairly represent and you do that in relationships too not just do the

Mars>> I do well I'm out of relationship. Yeah. All these things I did within my relationship. >> Do you charge them for it or is it for free? >> Do I charge who? My partner >> let's say you're dating a guy but he's

Brian Atlasnot a client. Do you do you engage in that dynamic in your like genuine romantic relationships?

Mars>> Um sometimes. Yeah. I I when I'm dating a guy, I love a guy who can switch. That's kind of what I'm looking for. Um for someone that I'm dating, >> water down the road.

Mars>> I just >> What does that mean? Switch. >> I wouldn't necessarily date uh I would not date a full submissive. I will see them professionally, but I won't date a

Marsfull submissive. For me to date you, it needs to be provable that you are able to dominate me. But that doesn't So you're switch. Okay. >> Yeah. Exactly. And they need

Brian Atlasand I'm a switch. Yes. >> Is the ideal dynamic for you uh for a romantic relationship, not just your clients. He's the dom and you're the sub

Brian Atlas>> or switch. Okay. Sometimes. I see. Okay. Now, here's where all of this gets a bit confusing. You wrote in your message to us, one of your disagreements with me or the show, you write, "I disagree, well,

Brian Atlasyou disagree with the type of [ __ ] that you, me, think that women should do for men in the early dating phase." >> Right. I mean, we already sort of like were talking about this when it came to chivalry and

Brian Atlas>> Well, but now it's getting into my expectations. Nathan, could you crack the door, please? Uh, so what do you disagree about in terms of what I I

Marswant? Well, I said that I couldn't get super specific about it because I just it was just kind of based off of things I've heard on the show via little clips and I truly don't remember anything by quote.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Well, here >> if we want to get into some things we can Yeah, >> I can provide um >> I'll play the bow video. Nathan, can you get the bow video?

Brian Atlas>> I saw the bow video. So, my expectation is um I want a woman. Well, one of my expectations the first time a girl comes over to my uh not quite yet. Well, in just a sec. In just a sec. Uh I want a

Marswoman the first time she comes over to my house, she should do my laundry. >> What did you do to deserve that? >> What do you mean? >> I might be down for that to be honest. But you're not the

Mars>> I'm Wait, I'm not propositioning you. I'm not Hold on. I'm not propositioning you. I'm explaining what my I know this I'm I'm giving you an example of like Oh, I'm not saying you. I'm saying if

Marssomeone wanted me to come do their if a guy some guy that did that, >> right? Exactly. Yeah. Um depends on what they were doing first. I may just agree to do that.

Mars>> Well, I mean, so I mean >> in terms you're asking what the woman gets out of it. Is that your question? Or >> what? Yeah. I mean, I'm not just going to bow and do your [ __ ] laundry. So, like what are >> what is the

Diana Sixto>> that's what I would say to a woman I'm interested in dating. But >> uh >> is this like open to everybody to comment on or >> I'll let you in. I'll let you in in just a moment. In just a moment. Let me really nice to her.

Mars>> Let me flesh out the this idea. >> We all have different definitions of nice. I would say nice and generous. Those are all very they're on a spectrum. Well, I would say ultimately um

Mars>> so wait, your question is what what am I doing to deserve that? >> Yeah. Like what do you how are you going to incentivize you're asking like I mean I'm think you're kind of getting at like oh would I be willing to do that? What do I think about bowing and doing your

Marslaundry the first time? >> I don't think too much of it to be honest but and I might be down to do something like that but I'm not just gonna do it. I have to do it for a reason. I need to I need to be I need to

Brian Atlaswant to do it. Well, it should be unprompted. So, I don't I shouldn't even have to explain it to a woman. She should >> Why would I want to do it? >> Why the [ __ ] would I owe you that then? >> Well, why why should men pay for first dates? Why should me why should men be

Marsasked me on a date and I'm going to get all ready and cute for you and knowing that you're probably want to be going to want to be a little intimate with me cuz let's be real. >> She gets to be intimate with me. >> No, you don't. >> No, we don't. Like, let's be [ __ ]

Brian Atlasreal. No, >> wait. What do you What do you mean? We have a vibr we are so happy with going home to our vibrators or >> that wasn't my argument. >> This idea that sex is an equal value

Marsexchange just cuz you're >> why are men watching all of our why are men paying so much money for it if we're the ones that get to get it? >> It's not an equal exchange or else we would be paying for it.

Brian Atlas>> Sex that's not true. So sex is a equal value exchange. Um, and honestly, I think actually women uh I mean it depends exactly what we're >> getting penetrated too. Like it's I

Marsdon't I don't think there's it's an equal value experience to be honest. >> You okay? >> If you have sex with me, do you get sex? >> Yeah, but we don't value it the same way.

Brian Atlas>> I totally This idea that women are like dislike sex. That's basically our No, it's not. We >> Stop. Stop. That's a weird like I assume you're sex positive. That's a really weird take for somebody who sex positive. >> You're not understanding what I'm saying

Marsat all. >> I actually believe >> we get different things out of sex and we value it in different ways. In one example, >> even if it's purely >> emotional, >> but if it's purely physical, then a lot of women don't like to have sex that's just purely physical, but they get

Brian Atlasnothing from it. >> Dang. Oh my god, you guys just struggle to follow along with what I'm actually trying to communicate here. So I believe for example uh are you going to say that well you know uh women climax less than men that

Brian Atlas>> no >> that would actually be a good argument in your >> I don't think it's a good in her favor or my favor >> in her favor she >> I think that's a biological I don't think that women >> however however uh while that's the case for >> I'd argue they climax more

Brian Atlas>> right I'm about to say that uh women complain about >> women can be some women can never >> hello uh women can be multiorggasmic some Like some women, I'm not saying all

Brian Atlaswomen have this experience. Women can come like 10 times, 20 times, 30 times >> without even having sex. >> And it's like, >> "Yes, I can. >> I can push her nipple right now." And she could come. So, she doesn't need no man.

Brian Atlas>> Right. So, but what I'm saying is it would be like in some instances like and I've had this experience with women I've dated, they can come like 30 times in a row and I get my one and it's like uh it

Brian Atlasseems like she's actually deriving more physical pleasure. She's probably like enjoying it more, I guess. Not to say that I'm not enjoying it, but like I feel like if you're a multi- as orgasmic woman, uh sex is actually just on a

Brian Atlaspurely physical level actually more enjoyable for some women. And in addition to this, uh, multi-orggasm in men is like exceedingly rare.

Mars>> And the thing that's more enjoyable for women, I feel like, is linked to like more of the brain than the body. It's linked to that like emotional connection is where we get so much of that pleasure

Marsfrom. And also, you're saying right now, I feel like that the orgasm is the most pleasurable part of sex. >> Didn't didn't say that at all. But if you wanted, >> but yeah, but we're counting orgasms and you're saying, "Oh, well, women have all

Marsthese orgasms, which also I can only have one to two max." So, >> okay, then you'd be on equal footing to men, >> but it's equal in number of orgasms. Okay, sure. I can agree on that.

Brian Atlas>> Well, doesn't mean it's equal. >> I would argue I mean, I would argue even a woman I mean, look, it's how do you know without having the experience of being a woman, I guess. But I I do think

Marsthat even for women who can basically just orgasm once even that one I don't know probably a different type of orgasm. I don't know. >> I've also had bad sex and had a bad time

Marsand been like [ __ ] this [ __ ] I'm just going to make myself orgasm. So just cuz I had that orgasm just to like make it like a little better for me doesn't mean that I got what he got out of that experience.

Brian Atlas>> Men can have that same experience where it's like all right I'm just all right. I'm gonna bring myself to climb. >> Well, in my experience, that's never happened. So >> So, have you ever faked an orgasm?

Brian Atlas>> Um, rarely. >> Okay. So, do you think the guy would know if he faked? >> No. >> So, how would you know if a guy's been disappointed in his sexual experience with you?

Mars>> Because of the way that they react and then return back to my DMs or my text messages. >> The way that they say, "Oh my god, this was the best blah blah ever." are like they're not going to like over they're not going to pretend like they loved it

Brian Atlaswhen they didn't. >> I'm going to bring it back on the on the rails here though. So, you disagreed with the type [ __ ] that uh I think women should do for men early in the dating phase. One of those things is I would

Marslike a woman to uh first time she comes over to my house, fold my laundry. >> Are you going to like make her like a nice meal? You going to like set up? >> No, she'll make me a meal. >> It's your house. That's so runchy.

Brian AtlasYou're You're not paying bills or anything? What do you mean? I will be paying the bills. >> If she likes you, but she doesn't even know she likes you yet. You want her to do your laundry? >> Oh, she like I mean I >> Has that ever happened?

Diana Sixto>> All the time. >> Isn't that video AI though that you would you? So, can I finally chime into the conversation here? Great. Uh I think

Diana Sixtothat uh men don't value women higher the more a woman does for them especially initially in a relationship because the way psychologically that works is not oh

Diana Sixtoshe's so great for doing this it's I'm so great that she's doing all of this for me and long term that doesn't actually work out long term you're not actually attracted to that girl that's

Diana Sixtowhy again you said maybe that has happened to you for you in the past and I don't know if you actually seriously dated those girls afterwards or were in a relationship with them afterwards. But

Diana Sixtothis is just broadly speaking studies that >> which studies what studies are you referencing? >> The more the more men uh the more women do for men especially initially in a

Andrew Wilsonrelationship uh the less the man just values her. >> That's a total that's a total inversion. >> So maybe so maybe that isn't the case for you. Well, help me help me out here because making the declaration that

Andrew Wilsonstudies say, right, if I said no, studies say the opposite, it would be rational and reasonable for you to say which studies by what authors. >> So, which studies by what authors?

Brian Atlas>> Sure. So, do you follow Saudia Cotton? >> You don't like that, huh? >> She's not She's not a like academic. >> No, but she's one of the most followed and

Diana Sixto>> did she do an actual scientific study? >> Prolific dating coaches, right? scientific study. >> Pretty much anybody that is in the dating world understands like this to be the case.

Diana Sixto>> Did she do the a scientific study? >> I think it's a way of women to devalue themselves. I don't even know those kinds of things. What's the point of even talking personally I would personally feel >> she's a politician.

Diana Sixto>> I would personally feel insulted if somebody asked me something like that and I would just not pursue that relation. >> Did the chick do a study? >> There's zero. Did she do an actual study? A scientific study

Diana Sixto>> as in women actually doing things for men and then just a man not committing to it. That's the majority. Hold on. You said studies show this. >> I I I can't.

Diana Sixto>> No, but you cited to Sadia Khan, >> who my understanding is she has not done >> studies. No, she's a she she has clients and she's one of the most prolific dating coaches. >> Wait, wait. Didn't she get exposed for

Brian Atlaslike >> I don't know. I I don't follow I don't follow. So you're my answer is no. I don't. >> Well, I would say so. So So then couldn't Andrew site to Brian Atlas. Well, Brian has a one of the most

Andrew Wilsonpopular and prolific dating. >> Do you have dating clients that have successful relationships? >> I talked to Wait, wait. I actually think my insight >> I can point to male. I can point to the equivalent of male uh dating coaches.

Diana Sixto>> You mentor men that then have that relevant that have successful relationship with I'm sorry. Do you >> I give a lot of advice. That's kind of what I do. But it hasn't worked for yourself. >> Actually, actually, it is working for

Andrew Wilsonmyself. Fantastic. Actually, >> okay. Well, that wasn't my argument. >> You're above the age of average. >> Is your Is your Is your profession dating coaching? Say that again. >> Is your profession dating coach? Cuz I missed that in your intro. >> No, it was not. That's why I wanted to

Diana Sixtocome on here. I like >> So, you reference So, you're referencing other dating coaches. >> Yes. I like >> Great. So, then if I reference a male dating coach, we're on the same equivalent playing field then? >> Sure. Has any one of the ones you followed said that it's a good idea for

Andrew Wilsona woman to go to a guy's house and do their laundry for them? That that's going to help >> Actually, yeah. Several. Several inside the Redville management. I just named >> Oh [ __ ] You could you could talk to Michael Sartine. You could talk to >> They say it's a good idea for women to come over to a guy's house the first

Andrew Wilsontime. >> Yeah. If they want to impress him. Yeah. >> Start acting like a housemmaid. >> If they want if they want if they want if they want to impress him. But my question to you, >> what kind of woman do you think? >> Hang on. Hang on. My question to you is you said they're studies.

Diana Sixto>> Yes. >> Where are they? What are they called? >> You know what? I wish I had a laptop and phone with me, but that's a rule not to have it. >> Well, I'm just asking what they're called. >> I can I I don't I don't have that kind of bandwidth.

Diana Sixto>> How about How about single author? >> I I would have to pull it up right here. I'm not >> Okay. Roughly how long were they? >> Say that again. >> How roughly how long were they? >> How long were >> the studies? >> The studies

SPEAKER_01>> that you read. saying that broadly this is the known the known >> okay >> base that if you do this for men one year degree >> did the studies have a meta analysis oddly that's not true >> okay

Diana Sixto>> that's not true >> how has that worked out for has that worked out for anybody >> this is anecdotal >> have you have you >> you referenced studies >> okay so studies how about if I take that back right

Diana Sixto>> if I take that back and come back with studies another time or when I get my phone then we can continue this conversation But let's say it's >> Did you actually read any studies on this? >> But I'm not a I don't have a super

Brian Atlasmemory and I don't have a laptop or my phone in front of me. So it'd be easier to do that if I have >> but we can we can even explore this absent studies. Sure. So

Brian Atlas>> do you think that uh in terms of a woman uh creating uh developing the affinity

Brian Atlasthe male affinity towards her? You think it'll be harmful for her to be helpful to him to to cook? >> So, if a woman cooks for a man, that's

Diana Sixtoif >> that's going to make him like her less. >> If it's the first time she's over at his house, yes. >> What evidence do you have for this? >> But listen, I have >> Have you [ __ ] women? >> I ew. No. >> Do you date women?

Diana Sixto>> No. >> Okay. So, you have two men here. >> No. Can we ask the men? You know what? Why don't we ask? >> I personally am very domestic for with my boyfriend. Like I love cooking for him. >> Does he enjoy it?

Brian Atlas>> Yes. I'm Cuban. >> Wait, can I ask you a question? Had you not had uh had you I'm assuming you didn't do those things quite early on. Do you think he would have been like Had you done those things though? I know you don't you wouldn't have done them, but

Brian Atlashad you done them, do you do you think he would have been like, >> "The [ __ ] is wrong with her? I don't like her." or do you think he would have the same affinity? >> He's a very intelligent man. So, if he

Diana Sixtobrought home a woman that instantly gets to cleaning up the house and cooking everything for him, he'd probably think that there was something wrong with that person.

Diana Sixto>> No, he'd be like, "This chick is dope. Yes, I have a keeper. I have a keeper. >> Free labor. Maybe that's just >> Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Stop. [ __ ] man.

Brian Atlas>> Sorry. you if you hear me coming in, be quiet. Okay. So, it's interesting that you talk about free labor. >> You want a guy to pay for the first date? >> Uh, did your

Diana Sixto>> do they agree? Do we agree before date? >> Yes. >> I don't care if they agree to a date. >> But do is that what you want? I want

Brian Atlas>> to the point that in fact I think you disclosed you you make sure you get the affirmative certainty prior to going on the date that they will pay because it's a it's important checking their

Diana Sixtocharacter if they can't afford a meal and if it's a problem same with the woman problem then how much did your boyfriend spend on the first date? >> Did he take you to a nice restaurant? >> No.

Diana Sixto>> Okay. How much did he had our first date at a night hop >> so and it was great. Okay. How much did he spend? >> I don't know. How much do you think you can spend at an IHOP? >> Could be 100 bucks.

Diana Sixto>> You'd order the whole menu, right? He'd order the whole menu. Actually, appetizer. I >> don't know. A meal at McDonald's cost 20 bucks now. >> Whatever. It has to have been less than 40, less less than 50 bucks or

Diana Sixtosomething, you know. >> And we had been talking before that. >> Okay. How much does he make per hour? >> He doesn't uh he doesn't make money per hour. He he >> well

Diana Sixto>> salaried >> okay per year he he uh earns money and he basically gets donations he has a base salary but he also collects

Diana Sixtocommission from donations that he brings in for his organization so yeah it's a mix of he's his own boss >> what's his organization >> um so again I want I always keep my private life private

Diana Sixto>> which is fair >> so yes but he has his own organization he is a CEO of it and uh and he manages it well and so you know somebody like him is somebody I respect and look up to

Diana Sixtoand uh >> how is that material to the conversation at hand? >> Well, because you know he's a man that I I have to look up to the person that I'm dating, right? Because of their

Brian Atlasintelligence, because of >> how they live their lives and uh if they >> Pratt, >> huh? >> Pratt. >> Say it again. >> Pratt. >> Pratt. >> They're just prattling. I I want to I want to get back to the actual

Brian Atlasconversation at hand. I thought you were asking me about my virtuous the qualities of your boyfriend are kind of fantastic relevant here. >> I'm confused why you brought up the >> copy. I'm curious why you brought up the

Brian Atlasfact that he receives donations. So I'm assuming it's like perhaps a nonprofit organization. I would assume the donations go to the organization, not into his pockets. So I don't know how

Brian Atlasthe fact that he receives donations is relevant to my question as to his income if he's salaried or how much he earns the hour. That's why I answered >> it should go okay I'm not going to go

Diana Sixtodown that rabbit hole. Um okay so >> do you want to ballpark his yearly income? I guess >> uh he definitely is he makes a lot definitely more than a million dollars a

Diana Sixtoyear. Um, and he does very well for himself, but he earns every single scent. As in that man is working 12-hour days. He's usually on the road. >> Why does this matter? I Why I'm just curious. Why do you feel the need to share?

Diana Sixto>> Like, >> because I I truly want to shout him out. I know he's watching and I want to show him that I'm very proud of what he does. So, shout out, babe. Love you. >> It's just kind of uh what's the word for

Diana SixtoI guess irrelevant. >> He would have been mad. He would have been mad in your first date. You had gone to his house though and you would put his socks away. >> I think it's relevant that you know I am in a happy healthy relationship and I

Diana Sixtowant that for more people. >> But that's why I'm here to tell you guys what I think attracts a man that is high value. And I think uh these are the qualities that high value woman.

Diana Sixto>> What do you do for him? >> So he can come to me for advice but when you know we're together I do actually like cook. I like cooking. um for him. >> Do you guys live together? >> Uh no, not yet. Um so

Diana Sixto>> does he cook for you? >> He has cooked breakfast items before, but I'm the better cook. I'm Latina. >> So um so yeah, you know, it's again a

Diana Sixtobalance. Just because I can cook doesn't mean that he doesn't do it being nice. You mentioned chivalry. I sent him flowers, you know, even if it's not a holiday. Because do you know that most men don't get flowers until the day they

SPEAKER_01die? >> Before you ever first >> Who the [ __ ] wants flowers >> before? Wait. >> Men don't want [ __ ] flowers. >> Let me get this. >> Let me get Let me just ask the chat. Send in a super chat. Send in a super

Diana Sixto>> Who the [ __ ] wants flowers? Nobody wants flowers. >> That's a great question. If the men give them, do you like flowers? >> No, I don't want [ __ ] flowers. I want ammo. I want [ __ ] that's cool. I don't want [ __ ] flowers. >> I did buy my boyfriend a appreciate

Brian Atlasnature >> headpiece once. He loved it. >> Expensive. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, back back here. So, >> Uhhuh. >> Uh, how many dates would you say you guys went on before he you finally

Diana Sixtostarted cooking and cleaning and >> h that's a good question. Um, >> cuz you do that now, but >> yeah. Um, I'd say it was, you know, after a few weeks of >> couple weeks hanging out. So, like how

Diana Sixtomany I'm not looking for an exact, but >> he took you on three dates, four dates, five dates. >> Um, when you actually like a person, you don't really quantify the date, you just try to spend as much time together as you can.

Diana Sixto>> That doesn't answer the question. >> Sometimes we went out for lunch and if you want to qualify that as a date, then you can. >> And I'm assuming he paid for it. >> Uh, yes. Um, and sometimes, you know, he

Diana Sixtocomes over and I pay for the groceries and then cook the food. It's very >> balanced. Um, >> well, probably not balanced, but um, >> but I don't like to quantifying

Brian Atlasthe money I spend on him when I go grocery shopping. >> I don't know if the word is extraneous. >> There's there's a lot of extraneous, sort of irrelevant, unnecessary. >> It's a whatever podcast. We talk about

Brian Atlaswhatever, though. >> Weren't you? But I'm like, don't be upset at me by the end of this that we're going late because all this irrelevant extraneous information has been presented that is not material to

Brian Atlasthe conversation at hand. >> So, um, >> okay. So, >> before you started cooking, before you did any of that stuff, did he ever I know your first date was IHOB,

Diana Sixto>> low cost. Did he ever take you to a really nice dinner, really fancy? >> Yes, absolutely. Um, for Christmas we went to a really, really nice spot Christmas Eve actually. So, he has spent

Diana Sixtoa pretty penny for Valentine's Day. We went to the Hard Rock at the the Hard Rock Spa um, in Florida in like the Fort Lauderdale area. And >> you love to include irrelevant

Diana Sixtoinformation. >> Well, I think people like to gives a [ __ ] where >> Well, you asked about expensive dates. I'm telling you, be precise. Did you want to not know why it is expensive? >> I didn't.

Diana Sixto>> Right. So, those are some of the expensive dates. >> Okay. >> Any other? >> Yeah. So, >> you like the you like the tea, don't lie. >> No, I don't give a [ __ ] Um, >> so, okay.

Brian Atlas>> Is that tea? >> Um, yeah. It's not even >> The tea is details. >> Mhm. >> Uh, okay. So, >> details. Originally >> when I was saying how I want a girl to

Brian Atlasdo my laundry or come over and help me cook, clean, whatever. Uh and I' uh ideally that should be just immediate upfront, right? Uh you said, "Well, that's uh what did you say? Unpaid labor or something." I think that's what you

Diana Sixtosaid. >> Yeah, that's transactional. Unpaid labor. >> It's not transactional. How would it be transactional? >> It feels like that as in I brought I paid for a meal and so when you come

Brian Atlashome, you do my laundry. That That's when did I You are the expert in straw men's. So in any Why would you Why would you say thank you to that? That's not

Diana Sixto>> I like being an expert at debating. I I have been doing it for 12 years. So >> what is a straw man? >> So you're saying you're trying to kind of invalidate my arguments by saying

Brian Atlasthat everything I say is a straw man. >> Yeah. But what is a straw man? >> What is a straw man? >> And it's not. It's >> answer the question. >> What is a straw man? What is a straw man? >> As soon as you tell me what a

Diana SixtoI can answer it. >> Get the [ __ ] out. >> Go on. >> Did I just get kicked off? >> No, no kickoff. I'm I'm just wondering though. What is a straw man? >> Straw man argument. Something that is irrelevant to the argument or the

Brian Atlasconversation. I don't know the >> That's not a straw man. You've been debating for 12 years and you don't know like the number >> Yeah. You don't know the ludal phases or whatever the [ __ ] How would that be

Diana Sixtorelevant to a debate? Are there are there factual things I can't debate because I don't have the exact precise definition of a straw man argument? >> Well, no. He's pointing out that it is the case in fact that when you're

Andrew Wilsondebating fallacies are the the most important aspect of what your opponent is saying or not saying. >> So, point out one that I've done so far. >> The straw man is a fallacy. >> Sure. So, to point out one example that I've done so far. >> Well, so do you know what the straw man is?

Andrew Wilson>> Point out one example is because I don't feel like any. >> Yeah. If you don't So, you can't >> She doesn't feel like she's >> Hang on. Hang on. >> How can you know if you haven't used a straw man argument if you don't know what it is? >> Explain it. >> Yeah. Okay, I'll explain it to you. A

Andrew Wilsonstraw man is when you take an opponent's position >> and then you reframe the position to argue against a weaker point they didn't make. >> Right. >> That's a straw man. And you just did that to Brian. What you did was you misrepresented his position and then

Brian Atlasmade an argument against an argument he did not make. >> I did not do that at any point. You >> literally did. >> What would that be? >> Okay. So I said, so you said Brian, you view things in a transactional way in an effort to dismiss my position because I

Brian Atlaswas saying >> that's the weaker position trying to argue with. >> Well, so I I was saying that yes, when the first time a girl comes over, yes, I want her to, you know, cook and clean and do my laundry. And then your framing

Brian Atlaswas Brian, that's transactional because you're saying, uh, if you pay for the dinner, then there's an expectation because you pay for the dinner that, uh, the woman should do that. Those words never left my mouth. So that would be

Andrew Wilsonthe straw man because you're misrepresenting what I said. I never said >> it's not just that. It's a misrepresentation to argue against a different position. So you're misrepresenting it to argue against why you don't like transactions, which is fine. You can argue against why you

Diana Sixtodon't like transactions, but that has nothing to do with the position. >> Yes. But my argument is that even if you don't qualify it as a transactional uh relationship, it's factually is. >> Well, that's not an argument. That's not

Diana Sixtoeven true. >> That's not even an argument. >> It actually is. If you feel like to continue a relationship, >> I feel like it's not an argument either. >> You need to have this person come over and do free labor on the first time that they visit you.

Brian Atlas>> But you do realize the actual statement >> you so you do realize that this would actually be an entailment of your own position. So if the position is mentioned pay on first dates, that requires them to labor to have the

Brian Atlasresources to pay for the first date. air go. Uh your your Oh my god, this is so ridiculous. I can't >> No, it's actually the reason for it is if I'm looking for a husband and I want to have kids with them. >> Your justification

Brian Atlas>> and I want to have a future with them. If they can't afford a meal, then I wait. I love this. The reason So great. The reason I'm on the first date, you want the man to pay for the first date is as demonstration that he can provide for you. The reason I want a woman to

Brian Atlascook and clean >> and because it shows if they're generous, >> stop [ __ ] interrupting, lady. >> It's a character. Do you have uh BPD? Do you have like B uh borderline personality disorder? >> Do you? >> I I don't. But it's it's interesting

Brian Atlasthat you can't follow the rules. I've asked you not to interrupt. I'm in the middle of a sentence and you've got to constantly interrupt. So again, it's interesting. So what if my justification

Brian Atlasfor what I want is not to be like a, you know, cracking the whip like a slave master. It's actually a woman who's willing to do that early on is a demonstration to me that she's going to

Brian Atlasbe a good girlfriend. She's going to be a good, you know, taking care of the household. That's something that I value in a relationship. >> Has it worked though? Like, has >> it hasn't worked for you? I don't understand the argument. Has somebody

Diana Sixtodone that for you and then you actually dated them afterwards? >> Yes. >> Really? So, >> where do you find a woman like that? Or what kind of a background would a girl?

Brian Atlas>> Look, just because you're sort of background because you're a Barbie, just because you're a sorority girl Barbie and you believe a little bit more individual individualistic that >> just because you believe being as you

Brian Atlasshould be as useless as possible to a man for as long as possible early on. >> I never said that. I said early on, >> but I don't understand. You don't know. But so if I'm telling you, >> is that straw man? If I am telling you

Diana Sixtohere, why don't you define straw man? >> Well, you just said you misrepresent the person's position to then use their argument against them. You just said >> that's not that wouldn't be a misrepresentation. >> It's not a straw man either.

Anya (Ana Lacy)>> That would just be like an ad hom or an insult, which is not hom. Why are you requiring a man to show you his >> ad hom right here? >> Read it. You literally don't know what

Mary Janethat >> you're asking. You're asking You're asking you're asking I feel so bad just

Anya (Ana Lacy)finish you asked him to show your his character right from the beginning you were like generous if they >> you were saying that you're not even going to call >> y'all are attacking people's personalities to avoid the actual topic at hand. >> Okay. Okay. When that

Andrew Wilson>> which is an ad hom >> who who attack >> what's your definition of ad hom using words and using attributes that's accurate. >> Hang on. It doesn't it doesn't even have to be attacking their personality. Right. So what but here's

Andrew Wilson>> it's a personal attack. >> But hang on here's the thing. Well no that an insult can be a personal attack but not an ad hom. >> An ad hom is when you're attacking them instead of the argument. So, if I were

Andrew Wilsonto say to to a person, they they said something like, uh, you know, I don't know, the the sun rises in the east, and I said, "No, it doesn't, cuz you're a stupid bitch." That would be an adome,

Andrew Wilsonright? That would be an adome. But if I said, um, you know, yeah, it does rise in the east. Uh, that's true, but it only rises, you know, this might contended with the argument somehow and then ended it with, and you're also a

Andrew Wilsonstupid [ __ ] That's not an ad hom. So the ad hom has to be you're you're only attacking them and not the argument. But if you're attacking the argument and them at the same time, that's not an ad homonym.

Anya (Ana Lacy)>> But you have to address this. So I was saying you said you wouldn't even go out on a date with a man if he didn't say you okay with for the first date, which is totally fine. I totally understand that. But you're already telling him,

Anya (Ana Lacy)"Hey, show me your first date from my definition. Is it not okay for him to slippery slopes? >> Stop. Let Anya speak, please. So,

Diana Sixto>> why is it not okay for him to require you to show him your character from the first date if you're requiring it from him? >> Yeah, because I am showing my character on the first date or the first visit

Diana Sixtohome by No, by not doing those certain things. So, it is my character to be kind and generous, but it is not my character to be somebody that uh just

Brian Atlasdoes things for no reason. But but not this is soypism. This is so solypism. You would agree that there are women who differ from you. >> Yes. >> Okay. So becau just because it's not

Brian Atlasyour framework. Just because it's not the way you move doesn't mean that other women can't move like this in an effective and it it it wouldn't be less or more effective necessarily. >> I think uh well that's could be your

Diana Sixtoopinion. I think that that's I differ in that. For example, she said that she would be okay with going to your place and uh cleaning your house the first

Diana Sixtotime she comes over. >> And she No, I'm just saying would you date her long term and consider her for a long-term relationship? Yes or no? And why >> outside of being I'm not I'm not going

Diana Sixtoto go into a specific, but I would So, wait her specifically? >> Yeah, because you want me. >> She's a pretty person. She's very pretty and she says that she would retire. What would that have to do with your argument? >> And she would go over to your place to

Brian Atlasclean and so she has kind of similar values to you. Let me make it consider her for a long-term relationship. Yes or no? Or why? >> Hold on. Let me make it super simple. Would I date a woman who comes over to

Diana Sixtomy house the first time and folds my laundry? The answer is yes. >> Okay, >> that's my position. Why are you asking for clarification? >> I'm curious as to what the background of

Kayla (Passes)those women are like. What else comes besides just doing your laundry? on the first. >> So, so you think because you don't have an only fans, you don't have to do his laundry. That's basically what you're saying if we extrapolate this out. Yes,

Diana Sixtothat's what you're trying to get to. >> You didn't bring up only I just don't understand the line of inquiry. I think I do. I think I get it. Do you does that outside of doing just

Diana Sixtothat? What is their background difficult to find? I personally don't know >> of any women in my circle. You're the first person that I know would do that. Do you think that women who would do that are lesser women to you? Do you

Diana Sixtothink women who would do that are lesser women? >> Yes. Much much lesser women. >> That's my favorite. I said lesser as in of the population, not that they are

Diana Sixtoless than to clarify numerically. >> Okay. So, are they do you consider them like beneath you? >> Uh, no. I think if that's what they want

SPEAKER_08to do, they can do it. If that's going to be their character and personality, then you know donated $100. >> That was not supposed to come in since you were let it go through though.

SPEAKER_08>> I am curious on what makes a dominatrix. Is this who you always were or what you became? >> You mentioned feces. Reminds me of GG Allen. >> We'll have to get back to it. >> Yeah, Vector. It's below the threshold. I'm very sorry, but that it did come

Diana Sixtothrough. >> Why wouldn't you want to show him off the rip that like you're somebody that would want to clean for him, cook for him, take care of him, nurture him? have as children >> because I reveal that I reveal that later on. If you show me your character

Diana Sixtoand you show me that you're generous, I'll show you first. I'm not going to impress. >> So, what can he >> I'm not going to use that to impress a man. I'm going to impress a man based on >> uh my accomplishments, on my

Diana Sixtointelligence, on you know things that you really care about. >> What can he dated? Do care about that a lot actually. >> Okay. What can he hold back on? >> I doubt it. No, I doubt it.

Anya (Ana Lacy)>> And then say it again. >> Since you're holding back on all these things, what can he hold back on besides because >> a ring >> nightmare >> and a lot of other >> taking you to a more expensive day or

Diana Sixtogifts. >> So bringing it to then you'll start doing all these things. >> No, at all. I'm saying what what you're saying like when I do more things and I expect more things and and no, but the

Diana Sixtoultimate, you know, I'm going to go full wife mode is when I have the wife title. And I think more women would >> Why would he want to wife you up if you're not going to act like a wife?

Andrew Wilson>> Because why would he wa wife >> because of her accomplishments? >> Because of her duh her accomplishments do all those things for herself. That shows that she can do those things in their house. There's a logical reason

Diana Sixtofor it, which is why would he wife me up if I'm already >> Why would he act like a husband and pay for your stuff if he's not a husband yet? >> That makes for I would >> Why would he assume that? Hang on. Would

Andrew Wilsonthis logically be >> back with dinner isn't paying for stuff? >> The idea is >> he's not going to wife me up because I'm acting like a wife doing the laundry, doing the this, doing the >> That's why you have 10 years. >> Yeah. Yeah. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. I don't need the qualifier. You haven't

Andrew Wilsoneven asked the [ __ ] question. >> You seem like >> So anyway, so the thing is >> you just don't have any >> like even if it's even if it's the case, let's just assume >> uh that that he's like uh you're you're doing all this stuff. The case that

Andrew Wilsonyou're making is >> uh why would he wife me up when he already has a wife? >> Yes. >> But what would be his actual evidence that you would be doing all of these things for him >> if you're never doing any of these

Diana Sixtothings for him? >> He said I would never. I said I would show yes I can cook. >> You haven't showed it yet. So how does he know that? >> Let's say we're engaging the first day. I'm just talking about over the case of the relationship for a

Diana Sixtoyear. I think within a year's time you can know whether a person can cook, can clean, does cook, does clean, but you're not going to cook or clean for honest is loyal. But I am not going to cook and

Diana Sixtoclean every single day for him to prove that I am going to be a good wife. >> Do you cook and clean and all that for your boyfriend right now? No, we live separately. I do that for myself. >> When you go over to When you go over to his house, do you cook and clean anything?

Diana Sixto>> I have I have cooked him. >> Do you regularly like go over and clean? >> Uh, no. >> Do you regularly go over and do laundry? >> Why would you do that? >> Uh, I Why would I go over to his >> I'm just trying to figure out what could

Andrew Wilsonbe a good if this guy's a millionaire because he's a functional she >> sometimes. Sometimes. >> Yeah. I have a question for the guys in the room. But why if this guy's a millionaire, why would >> she care for herself until they become a unit? >> Wait. Okay, I want to hear from you. Go

Miaahead. >> Does nesting not typically scare a guy away though a lot of the time like what someone calls nesting and >> like leaving your house. That's different.

Mia>> No, like nesting like kind of >> forcing yourself I guess into their environment quickly. >> I'd get scared by that. Is that something that doesn't >> I think that's different. >> Maybe the girls can expand on that. kind

Miaof almost like kind of welcoming yourself into like their personal duties a little too quickly. Would that almost scare a guy away sometimes or you don't think doing laundry or the first kind of girl?

Brian Atlas>> I'm way more attracted to this woman because she does nothing that I want her to do. It's terrible. >> No, I don't mean it like that. I just mean like >> Oh, this woman is is helping me and making my life easier and and doing

Miathings for me. Oh my god, she I [ __ ] dislike her more now. Terror argue this mean quiet. How could this have happened? >> The terror. >> I just mean like imposing too quickly on

Andrew Wilsonpersonal duties in their household. Like >> if you like go in and you're like, "Hey, I brought all my [ __ ] and I'm going up to the master bedroom now." Yeah, sure. But like, hey organizing. >> Hey, I Hey, I'm going to make some dinner for us. And by the way, hang on,

Andrew Wilsonhang on, hang on. But and by the way, I did a little bit of laundry. It's like, >> oh my god, you [ __ ] insane. Well, get the [ __ ] out of here, you crazy broad. Who the [ __ ] is gonna say? Nobody's gonna say that. >> I more just meant like just a guy that

Anya (Ana Lacy)I've dated that was like freaked out by that and I realized a like a couple weeks in that he was just not a good guy. So, it's just not the guys that you're that women like me want to look for >> that are going to be freaked out by

Diana Sixtothat. >> But, but this stemmed this different attachment styles. They're describing the whole avoidant attachment style, which is once somebody tries to get

Diana Sixtocloser to you, that actually freaks the person out and then they find it if it moves too quickly. A lot of more just men on the first men and women can do that. >> But you're talking about moving, you're

Andrew Wilsontalking about moving something too quickly. I get that. I get the like I'm just going to live here now after two weeks. That's a problem. >> Yeah. >> But if you're talking about just going and doing basic things like hey, I'll cook. I'll I'll assist with the

Marscleaning. I'll do this and that cuz we're dating. You know what I mean? That doesn't seem like you're moving that quickly. >> Doing someone's laundry is intimate. Argue. I would argue doing someone's laundry is very intimate. Actually, >> it is.

Mars>> Okay. But but I I think what you guys are forgetting here is this. What the [ __ ] is about your underwear? Your >> put the jeans. Put the [ __ ] jeans in. >> Do you have a problem with skid marks?

MarsLike what the [ __ ] are you talking about? Do you have a problem with that? a seed. Do you want to like pull No, I don't have a problem. But like >> Well, no. I'm saying you seem like you have skid marks or something. I don't know. >> Talking about doing a man's laundry, but

Marsalso Yeah. I don't I wouldn't want a man going through my crusty underwear and washing it. >> Yeah. I know. Yeah. Well, I know men that would be kind of embarrassed about it, too. They'd grab their underwear out of

Diana Sixtomy hand. They'd be like, "No, don't get don't touch that." >> And to be fair, since uh my boyfriend and I aren't living together, he does when he visits. He flies in sometimes and so he does do laundry at my place

Diana Sixtoand we do it together. We put our stuff together, take it to the thing, come back and >> But this together, let me talk. >> So, you know, go ahead. >> This originated from my standard.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> My position, my position is this is what I want. I understand some men don't want that or they don't even care about it. Some men might even find it

Brian Atlasobjectionable or they might even dislike it. Sure, there's no dispute there. But your contention is with my own my own experience. You want to contend with you

Brian Atlasalmost want to be like Brian, you don't actually want that. You don't truly want that. >> And that's just ridiculous because I'm presenting to you like how can I say how can we have a productive conversation

Brian Atlaswhere I'm actually telling you, Brian, what do you like? And I say, oh, I like uh chocolate ice cream. And you're like, "Nah, [ __ ] You like vanilla ice cream." Okay. Well, I I don't know what else to tell you. >> Sure. >> Like, I don't know what else to tell

Diana Sixtoyou. >> I can I can accept it, but Well, I can publicly think, but personally, no, but personally, I I don't believe that to be the case because you're I don't know how old you are. How old are you? >> 36.

Diana Sixto>> 36. Because you're not married and usually men at that age are married. This is a incoherent argument. >> Would have found a woman by now. This is that would apply to you to her. That

SPEAKER_01would apply back to her. So So you've done vetting since you're Stop. No, she >> she was married, divorced, now man, but not married. >> Her position is I'm not married, therefore I'm wrong. She's not married,

Brian Atlastherefore she's wrong. In fact, she's a she's divorced. It didn't Well, it didn't work with the guy you're with. Your argument is incoherent >> for the same reasons actually funny enough that we're talking about right now. >> It's no it's a lot it's completely facious

Diana Sixto>> because there was no you know there was no cheating involved or anything but there was a lot of imbalance. Holy [ __ ] Actually household activities and competency and you know can you do the household activities? Well we two adults.

Brian Atlas>> Wait you have autism so she wouldn't wait really quick. >> I do not. >> I'm autistic. No. >> And I feel like you might be a little autistic. Okay. Nope. >> You might be a little bit, you know, social cues, but >> n not against anybody.

Diana Sixto>> It's completely facious. Like, let me ask, do you like tall men? >> Uh, I mean, I've dated men that So, my standard is as long as they're as tall as me or taller? That's That's my stand.

Brian Atlas>> And of all the men that you've dated, have they been as taller as tall as you or taller? >> Yes. As tall. >> That's But it's not worked out with [ __ ] any of them. That must mean stop.

Brian Atlas>> It must mean that your stated preference is actually incorrect. And it actually uh it seems like it's counter to what you're actually uh pushing towards. Like it's totally incoherent this idea of like

Brian Atlas>> oh well your stated preference must not actually be uh must not be accurate because it would have worked out. >> It's so so what I'm talking about here is that this is a generally held

Diana Sixtoposition while yours isn't. your position of having a woman come over and generally held by who? >> And you know, help or do their laundry on the first time that they come over is not a position held by most men.

Brian Atlas>> Well, most men are happy to just get a little bit of [ __ ] However, I actually have some standards. I have a uh I I want women to act and behave in a certain amount, a certain way. >> So, perhaps this is unique to you as a

Brian Atlaswoman to hear because you probably run over and bulldoze all the men you're with. But yeah, men do actually have standards. >> Assumptions. Talking about assumptions. >> Well, it seems like you're you're combating this idea that men are allowed

Brian Atlasto have preferences, standards, and boundaries because men men often anytime a man says, "I want this. Here's my preference. Here's my boundary. Here's my standard." It's always it's almost

Brian Atlasalways pathized. So, a woman wants a dominant man preference. A woman a man wants a submissive woman, controlling, predatory, blah blah blah. anytime. I disagree with that. I disagree with

Diana Sixtothat. I think everybody should have their preferences. I'm just talking about this one single thing which I find weird and most people do. >> Uh, okay. You find it weird. That That's great. But I'm not really hearing an actual argument.

Diana Sixto>> The argument is that the person would not value themselves highly to do that kind of stuff on the >> So, you think the the women who I would

Brian Atlasdate who would be inclined to do this, they are what? They aren't as self- assured as >> There we go. Lesser than Knew it. Yeah. >> Yeah. That doesn't mean lesser than >> Are you more self- assured than those

Andrew Wilsonwomen? >> No. >> Everyone has strengths and weaknesses. >> No, I didn't say selfish. I said are you more self assured than those women >> than those women? >> Than women that come over and do your laundry. >> Yes. Are you more self assured than them? >> Uh, yes.

Diana Sixto>> Then they are less self assured than you. >> Not than me. I think that they're >> I don't want to It's P and not P at the same time. I'm not trying to compare to myself. I'm

Diana Sixtosaying that they have less self. >> Can I ask you a question? Let me ask you a couple question. >> Then who then? Hang on. Then who in general than women that wouldn't go and and do that kind of >> and would you do that? >> I personally would not. >> So then they're less self assured than

SPEAKER_08you. >> Yeah, sure. If that's >> So then they're less than you, right? In that one in that one soldier donated $200.

SPEAKER_08>> The blondie fem is making a very compelling case for being more unlikable than nse. Please don't have her back. If it weren't for Andrew, this episode would be unwatchable. BC of her.

Andrew Wilson>> Uh, unknown. Thank you very much for the test. >> Can I ask you a question? Do you think um those are all for me? >> Sure. >> Oh, wait. You're sure? Do you do you know what I average? >> I I don't. >> Yeah. What do you What do you average on your show?

Andrew Wilson>> This isn't my This is >> What do you What do you average on your show? >> I don't do >> So So what do you average on your show? >> Yes. It's a very niche thing. So >> So nothing. >> No. Yeah. The >> Andrew is the bigger draw than Come on.

Andrew Wilson>> Absolutely. Absolutely. But just by logic, my target is Latinos. So that already decreases the US population to the people that I actually >> You mean What are you talking about? That's a huge segment of the US

Diana Sixtopopulation. >> But even if I communicated to every single one, and I wish that I did, >> then I would still never have anything close to what you average. And >> yeah, but what you just said is R in ratings. Yes. It's like, no, it has nothing to do. The ratings have nothing

Diana Sixtoto do with you. >> I'm not saying ratings. I'm saying live viewers. >> The live viewers is not because of you. It's because of me. >> I never said that, by the way. But I think it's because we're having engaging. >> Okay. I'm gonna try to bring it back to

Brian Atlasthe panel here in just a moment. >> Final thing for you. >> Yes. >> Uh do you have an expectation? Should a should a man be uh

Brian Atlastrying to think how I want to frame this? Do you think a man should be a protector? >> Define protect from what? >> Be willing to sacrifice his life for you to protect you.

Brian Atlas>> Yes, but I would do the same for them. You won't even do their laundry. How about this? >> She said on the first date, hold on. Sometimes after that, babies, >> I can I can test this super easily. Uh

Brian Atlasyou are on a boat that is sinking. It's just you and your husband. There's one life preserver now. There are no loopholes for other means of survival. You one of you has to die. The boat is

Brian Atlassinking. No, no, no. Not who would probably. Who should >> be from your perspective? uh who should take or who should be given the life preserver to survive.

Diana Sixto>> I'm the kind of person that you know they would probably off themselves before I tried to like both of us go down and try to be on that. >> No, but who Okay, how about this? Let me change it. Wait, wait, stop. Stop.

Brian Atlas>> Kate Winston and like brought up Jack on top of the door. >> Extraneous, irrelevant. >> Yeah. Okay. >> And if we both die, then we both die. But >> immaterial. So, okay, I'll change the I'll change the scenario. You are an

Brian Atlasobserver. There's like a there's like a drone observing a sinking boat and uh you have the live camera feed to it and you see a married couple on the sinking boat. There's one life jacket. Only one

Brian Atlasperson gets to survive. There are no loopholes. Uh who would you judge more harshly for like taking the life jacket? The man or the woman? >> I don't know. I'd drop the life the life jacket and let them choose.

Brian Atlas>> I have the perfect question for this. Andrew, how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning? >> Lighter. lighter. >> Yeah, >> you'd feel lighter. >> That's right. >> Are we Is that an acceptable? >> True. >> I guess we'll answer.

Brian Atlas>> Do you know what the hypothetical question is or you're just intentionally being bad faith? So, answer the hypothetical. >> The hypothetical. >> You would drop the non-existent life preserver that that didn't grant was on the drone. Wow. Great.

Diana Sixto>> I said drop if they're in the water, right? That's what I understood. And they're both >> Would you remember the part where I said no loopholes? >> No. I I'm answering it. If they're both floating in the water and I have a drone to drop the lifeboat, I'm going to drop the drop the sorry, drop, drop, drop,

Andrew Wilsondrop, drop, drop, drop, drop, drop, drop, drop the floater. >> What are you talking about? >> She's actually cooked. >> What are you [ __ ] talking about? >> Actually [ __ ] cooked. >> None of that had anything to do with what he just said. Actually, she can't engage with hypothetical. She >> There's no There's no lifeboat being dropped. >> Not lifeboat.

Brian Atlas>> There's no life jacket being dropped. None of that. Were you listening? Were your ears open when I explained the hypothetical? >> You had two, but first one didn't work. >> Can I ask the women here? Did y'all get

Courtney (MS)the hypothetical? Did y'all Is she wrong >> about the like is is she not understanding the hypothetical? >> There's She's adding extra stuff that was never avoiding avoiding the question.

Anya (Ana Lacy)>> I think it might be easier if we did it in Spanish. Maybe that's more like

Diana Sixtodon't biblote. What the [ __ ] I think uh knowing various languages actually levels up your >> material irrelevant.

Diana Sixto>> Okay, just just go through jelly. Don't you know don't hate on it. >> But uh but what I understood so maybe I did misunderstand is I have a drone that's going to drop a lifeboat on aelves.

Diana Sixto>> Oh my god. How about this? Oh my god. Well, because that's the first question that's related to the first question you asked is there's two people in the water. >> You're you're watching a boat. >> Okay. >> Wait, wait, wait. Let me do it

Brian Atlasdifferently. Let me do Okay, hold on. Here we go. You're on an island and you have a you have a pirate uh what is it called? The spy glass uh telescope or what? No, what's it called though? The

Brian Atlaseyeglass telescope. Telescope. >> Okay. And and you have no means of intervening in this this sinking ship. There's a boat. There's one life preserver on the boat. The water's freezing. Uh well, hold on. Let me get

Brian Atlasrid of the water's freezing. Just in the hypothetical, it's granted that only one person can survive. Only one person can take the life preserver. Who would you judge uh I guess more harshly for take and it's a married couple. Who would you

Diana Sixtojudge more harshly? >> I >> as a witness to this, >> I don't know because I wouldn't know their background situation. And what if one of them has terminal cancer and so it's better that you know the husband

Diana Sixto>> are you just intentionally being like bad

Andrew Wilsonpeople I'm trying to push the point that I believe men have you don't know my point that I would sacrifice those actually I think that that's I think that that's fair within the confines of that I'm going to give I'll give a different one

Andrew Wilson>> oh my god >> so there's a man and a woman right they're strangers to each other >> they're walking by a burning uh building and you're on a CCTV camera. Who would you judge more harshly if there was kids

Andrew Wilsonscreaming inside >> if if they didn't run in? >> Hang on. Hang on. The kids the kids are inside. They're screaming for help because there's balloons. >> Who would you judge? Hang on. Hang on.

Diana SixtoHang on. Who would you Hang on. Hang on. Who would you judge more harshly for not running into the building and grabbing the kids? >> Uh I would probably if they're Again, I'm not everybody, right? Uh, if they're

Mary Janeboth adults, they should run in and save the kids. >> Okay. One. One. One. One. >> Y'all want her to say men so bad. I know. I would say the man should go in

Brian Atlasand save the kids. Repeal the night. >> I finally got one. >> I would say he should nut it out. Have you not? I've never said that.

Diana Sixto>> He nuts in you real quick and then you carry you potential to carry. You can carry his legacy. >> Gosh. And you're >> said there's a burning a fire and kids burning in a building. There's two adults outside. >> Next question.

Diana Sixto>> And you're finally on the dark side. Why wouldn't the two of them go in and save the kids? >> Holy. >> That's what me and my partner would do if our kids were in a building or >> I mean that's fair. >> You call him a partner. >> My boyfriend. >> That's fair. But >> yeah, until

Mars>> What's wrong with partner? >> Yeah. What's wrong with partner? I've never met conservative traditional woman that's like my partner. >> Well, we're not all conservative traditional. >> She claims to be. That's the thing.

Andrew WilsonShe's clearly a feminist I've ever heard. At no point in the rambling >> I think her boyfriend are even close considered a rational thought.

Diana Sixto>> Don't need a yakyam yet. >> Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. >> I no points. >> I think you're just you can't get me with the gotcha question.

Diana Sixto>> It's not a gotcha. Do you know what a a hypothetical is to test logic? It's not a gotcha. You're trying to argue that achieve

Diana Sixtothat I wouldn't sacrifice for my boyfriend that I wouldn't, you know, >> lay my life on the line if if necessary. And honestly, I'm the kind of person that would do that. Would he let me? No.

Brian AtlasBut I would I would. >> If your boyfriend was a coward, >> would you break up with him? >> Yes. >> If you're a coward, do you think your boyfriend would break up with you? >> Yes.

Brian AtlasSo ridiculous. You have to Oh my god. I don't even think it's worth the time explaining it. I'd like to bring in other people because you're just being bad faith. >> No, I he for not being a coward. >> What's that quote? Uh never argue with

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