Andrew Wilson vs. 10 Feminists DEBATE! 3 RAGE QUITS?! SUPER FERAL CHAOS PANEL?! | Dating Talk 283
Date: 2026-02-23
Duration: 10h 01m
Guests
Identified Speakers
SPEAKER_00Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_02Mars(guest)
SPEAKER_03Sarah (Angelique)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Mia(guest)
SPEAKER_05Kayla (Passes)(guest)
SPEAKER_06Mary Jane(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Courtney (MS)(guest)
SPEAKER_10Diana Sixto(guest)
SPEAKER_11Ella(guest)
SPEAKER_12Megan Loftess(guest)
SPEAKER_13Anya (Ana Lacy)(guest)
SPEAKER_14Megan Loftess(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:33
IntroAll 14 guests introduced - most overbooked ever
00:10:22
Key MomentElla reveals she eats raw chicken and pork, believes in terrain theory
00:45:23
Key MomentAndrew Wilson and Diana Sixto begin marathon prenup/feminism debate
03:16:00
Key MomentAndrew presents force doctrine to the panel
03:28:40
ControversyAndrew gets Diana to accept she is a feminist by definition
04:58:57
Key MomentBrian reads Mars' full dominatrix service menu. Nuclear explosion sound effects.
09:53:03
QuoteElla: circumcision is genital mutilation that should never be done to babies
Topics Discussed
00:00:33
Guest Introductions
14 people - most overbooked episode ever. Includes Andrew Wilson, Mars (dominatrix), Diana Sixto, Ella (raw meat eater).
00:10:22
Ella's Raw Meat Diet
Eats raw chicken and pork. Believes in terrain theory. Parasites are beneficial.
00:45:23
Prenup Debate: Andrew vs Diana
Extended debate on prenups, women financial independence, marriage as institution.
01:42:23
Chivalry Debate
Brian argues sex workers don't deserve chivalry. Extended panel debate.
03:16:00
Andrew's Force Doctrine
Men monopolize force, women always appeal to men for rights. Feminism dismantling patriarchy is circular.
04:58:57
Mars Dominatrix Services
Brian reads Mars' full service menu including toilet play, CBT, financial domination.
09:53:03
Ella on Circumcision
Final hot take: circumcision is genital mutilation that should be illegal.
Transcript
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02:59:06
Mars>> So, with all the things that I do do as a non-traditional woman though, I don't deserve the gentlemanly um chivalous behavior. >> I don't think so. I don't think you deserve it. >> You don't really know me or what I do, but
02:59:17
Mars>> Well, I mean, I I looked online a little bit, so I have some my online presence. So it has nothing to do with who I really am as a person and what I do in my >> for men and you know our online personas
02:59:29
Brian Atlasare not us. >> I think as sex workers >> that's ridiculous. That's a >> piece of life. Yeah. No, but we're not portraying our reality. Yes.
02:59:41
Mars>> I don't play a character. >> I don't play a character. I think I think some people do play characters, but you really >> like the sex worker. You can't just be like yourself. >> I do. I am myself. I am exactly who I am.
02:59:54
Mars>> You don't ever play it up. You're always your most vulnerable realest self. You treat your clients just like you would treat like maybe a man that Yeah. >> I mean, I don't lie about my positions.
03:00:06
Anya (Ana Lacy)Even though Rachel thinks I'm like fake boundaries. I swear to God, I'm not boundar. >> I mean, I don't tell them like what's like super ultra personal things about like health or something. >> Like your friends.
03:00:17
Mars>> I treat social media like basically like a friend. Yeah. like a close friend that you're in person with and share real real life ideas. >> I'm very open conversations that you might be having with that customer, not your portrayal
03:00:29
Brian Atlasonline. So, it's so immaterial to the conversation. Yes, some sex workers are playing a character. Some sex sex workers are genuine and it's a [ __ ] representation of them. That's besides
03:00:41
Brian Atlasthe point. The point here is is again regardless of you know how much it encompasses your true self or whatever by virtue of you being engaged in these sorts of things I believe you're not
03:00:52
Brian Atlasholding up your end of the deal of the trad deal so I don't think yeah look do men still do it >> do mense do men what >> you're missing out >> sex workers are really what
03:01:03
Mars>> being kind to all these women you're missing out kindergous but there's millions Just chivalous. Hold on. Just chivalous.
03:01:16
Brian Atlas>> Oh my god. This [ __ ] panel. >> Not all humans are traditional. Like not regardless. Then don't hold then don't ex if you're not a traditional woman. Don't hold men to a traditional standard.
03:01:27
Mary Jane>> Truly find joy in like reciprocating those values regardless if they're traditional or not. Like my boyfriend for example is very like he's very chivalous. But I don't think that every single man >> you can have values too and not be fully
03:01:40
Mary Jane>> I was very transparent with him from the start and I think that's why I get chivalry like I genuinely like sat there for seven months and talked to him.
03:01:49
Brian AtlasStop stop. I've repeated myself multiple times. >> I acknowledge that women who are sex workers can still get chivalry. There's
03:02:00
Brian Atlasno dispute that there are men who will still do the meta most effective tactics available. So yes, there are still men reg you could be the most degenerate woman ever and participate in a [ __ ]
03:02:12
Brian Atlasbukkakei gang bang every single day of your life. Some guy, yes, will do those traditional things, will pay for dates, will be chivalous, etc., etc. That's not in dispute. What I'm saying is I'm I'm
03:02:24
Brian Atlaslooking like the chessboard. I'm talking about the chessboard. I'm talking about the landscape. I don't think you deserve it. And that's a separate conversation. Can Do you still get it? Does your boyfriend still pay for your dates and [ __ ] >> I don't think you deserve a good woman,
03:02:36
Mary Janebut I mean you might get a good woman to your standards. It doesn't mean that I don't think you don't deserve love or anything like that, but like you know what I like and we have different values
03:02:48
Mary Janeon like what a good woman is too. So like what like I think is a good woman might differ from your views. >> Can I try like maybe a different approach? So the idea that Brian's
03:02:59
Andrew Wilsontalking about when you talk about like kindness, things like that, kindness, uh being nice, maybe um you know, various things like that. I think that reciprocating those or what maybe we
03:03:12
Andrew Wilsoncould just refer to them as manners, like having manners, right? You're nice, so I'm nice. You're polite, so I'm polite, right? You're kind so I return a kindness. I think you have to separate
03:03:22
Andrew Wilsonand untangle those ideas from the idea of chivalry. Chivalry is the idea that men are going to go fight the wars if the draft comes. It's the idea that women are going to get the lifeboat. It's the idea that >> to serve women.
03:03:34
Andrew Wilson>> Well, it's the idea that in general in general public if if there's a fire, they're the the expectation is that they need to run in, right? That they used to be part of bucket brigades that did just
03:03:45
Andrew Wilsonthat. Those are expectations that are more in line with chivalry. And so what Brian's asking, and I would just put it down to the core issue, is why men should have any expectation to any of
03:03:56
Diana Sixtothose things ever. If it's egalitarian and it and we have equity, why should there even be an expectation socially that men don't have to expectation? But >> what what did you want in exchange for
03:04:09
Brian Atlasthat? That's what my question was when I was sitting over there. What is the expectation? >> Yeah. So I think Well, that's what I'm asking. >> Yeah. >> So you want to ask us it. What do you think? So again, I guess I'll go back to
03:04:20
Diana Sixtothis. If we can say men should >> No, men do because they're the ones that set it up. Men are the ones that like run into buildings cuz they want to and they're the ones that set up the life. >> So from a dating dating lens, it's it's
03:04:32
Brian Atlaspaying for first dates, sacrifice, provide doing all those things. Chivalry. Yes, >> that's what I was asking. So I'm asking if men should do XYZ, what should women do?
03:04:43
Brian Atlas>> I'm asking you what do what do you want them to do? Men have restricted women's growth in the past. >> I'm asking you the question. >> I have an answer to that as well. >> I'm asking you the question. Stop reversing it while I was >> Okay. Well, we're going we're starting with you then. >> We're starting with you and we're going
03:04:57
Marsto skip you. >> What am I answering then? >> If you can say if you might say >> what is a virtue in my opinion like what does should a woman do to gain that to gain that chivalry? >> If we say men should be chivalous,
03:05:10
Brian Atlasshould pay for a date, should do these things, what should women do? >> Okay. So present yourself kindly, respectfully. >> Men are the leaders.
03:05:22
Mars>> Would do those things too. >> I ask you for what women should do and you say men are the leaders. >> Yeah. Like well that's why we have the chivalous word for women for men and not women.
03:05:33
Brian Atlas>> I ask a woman what should women do and she says men are leaders. >> I open the door for men. >> So something men should do. Okay. Men or leaders. Something men should do. Thank you for answering the question. Oh [ __ ] >> Okay. >> Thank you for the gifted. Oh my.
03:05:47
Brian Atlas>> Cut me off. >> Oh my god. Under under dirt and soil. >> We need a bottle of champagne. We need a champagne pop up in here. >> It's not quite the threshold for the champagne, but uh under dirt and soil.
03:05:58
Brian Atlas100 subs over there on Twitch. That's like $600 700 or something like that. Thank you, dude. You're a [ __ ] legend. I'm going to give you VIP for that. Hold on. Uh what should women do?
03:06:10
Mary JaneI think that we should reciprocate based upon their preferences depending if it aligns with our preferences as well. If if that doesn't make sense to you, I understand it's not how you were possibly raised. >> Wait, can you tell can you strain the
03:06:24
Mary Janemic so it's pointing straight at your face? >> After that, I'll answer your question directly. >> So, women should reciprocate. Let me ask you a question. Who should pay for first dates? Men or women?
03:06:34
Mary JaneI prefer a man to pay for the first date, but if they want to go 50/50, then I will go 50/50 depending on how the date goes and if I'm like feeling the vibe. >> So, the guy has to make up for it if he
03:06:46
Mary Janegoes like he has to be he has to be way more attractive. >> No, then you'll toler tolerate 50/50. >> No, it's not about like phys I mean physical attraction does play a part.
03:06:56
Brian AtlasLike I I think that like stands for everyone. I don't if I don't know if that stands for you, but >> in the past three years, how many? Like >> how old are you? You're 26. >> Yes. >> How many first dates have you been on your entire life?
03:07:09
Mary Jane>> I couldn't count honestly. >> 100. >> A lot. Yeah. I've been on a lot of dates. It doesn't mean that I >> Do you Do you How often do you go 50/50? >> Um >> or do they always pay? Mostly always
03:07:20
Mary Janepay. >> I think that I don't know. I It just I went through a relationship where I was paying for everything and I didn't like it. Did he pay for Did even Did he pay
03:07:31
Brian Atlasfor the first date? Even that guy >> he he bought me pizza. >> Yeah, he bought He paid for the first date. I guess it wasn't really that great of >> I acknowledge that women can find
03:07:42
Brian Atlasthemselves in nontraditional relationship dynamics, but I'm speaking in general of all the You said you've gone on a lot of first. They usually But I'm I'm confused. You say reciprocate. So the reciprocation in this instance
03:07:55
Mary Janewould be if the man pays for the first date. Well, I mean, reciprocation would just be going 50/50, I guess. Or uh you would you would occasionally pay for first dates, I guess. I I mean, >> acknowledging the wage gap that plays a
03:08:08
Brian Atlaspart in society. >> What >> is important on his >> You probably out earn all the guys you date. What do you [ __ ] tell about denying a wage gap though? >> Yeah, >> there's no wage gap. >> There is no wage gap. That's totally
03:08:19
Brian Atlas[ __ ] bogus. >> It varies depending on the field. >> There's a work there's a fieldap. Do women earn more than men as sex workers?
03:08:29
Mary Jane>> Um, I think it depends on the sex work. >> There's a lot of male sex workers that don't like get investigated the way y'all investigate women's earnings, honestly. So, I couldn't possibly say, but a lot I've known male sex workers
03:08:41
Mary Janethat have made way more than me. >> Who's the male Sophie ran? >> I don't really watch. >> You should ask a gay guy probably. >> Yeah, >> it's actually fair. >> We're not going to know. paper. I mean,
03:08:54
Diana Sixto>> so they're both appealing to the same demographic. Men, >> I have a question for her if that's all right. Um, you've said that you used to you were in a relationship where you paid for most of the dates with that
03:09:06
Diana Sixtoguy, right? And that you didn't like it. Is it do you think it's because paying for dates or taking on that role makes you less attracted to the man? So if a man wants to be more attractive to a
03:09:19
Mary Janewoman, they would at least be able to pay for a meal. >> I >> Right. >> I basically felt like I was enabling him and like I was restricting him from growing by providing everything and I
03:09:31
Brian Atlaspretty much was. He started to expect me to pay for everything and I don't think that >> sexy, right? >> W him. Good for him. >> Yeah. >> Uh really quick here, a couple We didn't even do the intro. Holy [ __ ] I totally
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03:15:04
Andrew Wilson>> Okay. So, I want to answer your question because you've asked it a bunch of times and you feel like it's unsatisfactory. Yeah. >> So, I just want to make sure uh >> Yeah. So, I want to make sure that we get it right before I answer it so that I have it correct. We're going to
03:15:16
Andrew Wilsonuntangle two ideas. Yes. >> Idea one is that >> chivalry and dating could be slightly different than what we see in the general population for chivalry, which is women get the boats, men get the draft, blah blah blah. Men are expected
03:15:29
Andrew Wilsonto run in the burning buildings, this type of thing. Can we can we untangle that? Okay, good. So if I think that if it's the expectation that women want to have those additional privileges, your question, >> the ones you just mentioned, the whole
03:15:42
Diana Sixtolike the votes and the >> Yeah. Yeah. All all that stuff, women want to have >> expectations. No, because men are the ones that set that standard. >> Okay. I I I got it. Yeah. >> Okay. So there's no reason for men to
03:15:54
Andrew Wilsonkeep holding those standards up then. >> There's no reason for them to want to, yet they still continue to do it. >> Got it. Okay. So what my argument is is just this. If women want to see chivalry, if they want to have men
03:16:06
Andrew Wilsoncontinue in those roles, then women need to take a backseat on authority, things like the right to vote, stuff like that. I think that if they >> I think that if they move I think that
03:16:17
Andrew Wilsonif they Well, only if I'm sure you would love only if it's the case >> only if it's the case >> that you want to see men continue in those functions. So if it's not the case
03:16:29
Andrew Wilsonthat you don't want to see men continue in those functions, then fine. >> I think they continue. >> Okay, hang on. Let me make the argument and then you can respond. >> Yeah. >> If it's not the case that you want to see them in those functions, >> then
03:16:42
Andrew Wilson>> if it's not the case that you want to see them in those functions, then yeah, sure, you can see you can grill boss all day long. But if it is, hang on, almost done. But if it is the case that you do, >> right? Then I think that rescending
03:16:54
Diana Sixtoautonomy or rescending authority to men >> is the benefit to men in that relationship. >> Let's say I didn't want to continue to see men in those roles and have those expectations. Would they continue to do
03:17:05
Diana Sixtoit themselves? Yes. >> Because they want to because strong strong men in our society do voluntarily take up those roles and do create those
03:17:16
Diana Sixtokinds of systems to protect women and children. So even if I was a >> So why should they continue to do so though? >> Well, they want to do so. I think I think and you're asking me why they
03:17:27
Diana Sixtoshould continue to do so? >> Because they are playing their role in society in a functional society just like women are playing their role by being mothers, by maintaining
03:17:38
Andrew Wilsonhouseholds, by holding a community together, by >> making sure the kids are involved and >> Yeah. So then men should always assume the higher risk >> higher risk. Yeah. Hang on, hang on,
03:17:50
Andrew Wilsonhang on, hang on, hang on. Just let me ask the question before you answer it. >> Men should assume the higher risk of things like the opinion. >> Okay. Well, I'm sorry. Is do you have any risk ever of being drafted?
03:18:02
Diana Sixto>> Just your opinion. >> Do I have a risk of being drafted? >> No. Do you have >> any kind of risk that women go through? As in, you know, the number one
03:18:13
Diana Sixtothe number one reason for female violence is men. So, if I go outside right now, this is a perfect >> But hang on. Wait, wait, cuz you asked me, right? If I go outside right now, we're kind of in in a sketchy part of California, right?
03:18:26
Diana Sixto>> Vulnerable. >> I am more vulnerable and at risk than you would be. Yes or no, right? >> Yeah, that would be indeed the case. >> I run more risks of just as a result of being a woman. >> However, every single day and I hate
03:18:39
Andrew Wilsonthat. >> Okay. But those are socially understand that >> those are socially avoidable risks. socially avoidable by >> living inside. Chill out. Let me make the argument and then respond. Okay. So, the argument is
03:18:52
Andrew Wilsonjust this. >> It is the case that if there is a draft and a man avoids the draft, right? >> Yes. How often does that happen versus how often do I go? >> Can I at least ask the [ __ ] question?
03:19:04
Andrew Wilson>> If it is the case that a man is drafted, he avoids the draft, he goes to jail. Okay. Your individualistic risk right now in Santa Barbara walking around in the middle of the night is almost
03:19:14
Andrew Wilsonnegligible. If you take the averages and then only associate yourself with the average, I can say your risk is statistically higher than a man. Sure, that is the case. But why should men be punished for that?
03:19:27
Andrew Wilson>> Well, why are men punishing other men by being the ones setting up a draft system to send other men to? >> This is exactly my point. So my point my point would be though that if it was the case that we eliminated the draft which
03:19:39
Andrew Wilson>> that actually >> that actually would benefit you the least. Right. That would benefit women the least. >> I didn't hear the last part. Say >> that would benefit women the least if we eliminated the draft. Right.
03:19:48
Diana Sixto>> Right. How would it not benefit me if rich and elite powerful powerful men are sending other men to die for different >> because if it's the case that you're
03:20:00
Andrew Wilson>> I don't want that by the way. I want men to be here and not go out and die. >> But if it is the case that the United States is invaded, you may >> which is very rare because now we do invasions by technology. >> You won't even let me get the thought
03:20:13
Andrew Wilsonout. >> Please. Sure. I'll let you finish. >> I'm literally willing to let you finish your thoughts if you're willing to let me finish mine. >> So if it's the case to answer your question that we needed to levy troops quickly, >> right? What would be the best way to do
03:20:25
Diana Sixtothat? >> I don't think that we should levy troops quickly. I think if we are going to defend our what interests here or abroad, we should do it with the technology. >> What would be the best way to
03:20:37
Diana Sixto>> kind of like the technology that we used when we invaded Venezuela that made them bleed out of their noses and ears and made them stand out? >> That's a third world [ __ ] hole. But the question No, I'm talking about the technology. >> You didn't actually answer my question. >> Yes, I did.
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Andrew Wilson>> No, you didn't. What would be the best way? What would be the best way to levy troops quickly? >> Why would I? I don't want them to. >> I didn't ask you what you wanted. I asked you what's the best way to levy troops quickly robots by paying them.
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Diana Sixto>> There's always been a financial incentive to joining the military or or do you think >> So you think that if you offer like a $30,000 interrupting do you think that men sign up to be in the military to do
03:21:16
Diana Sixtoit for free or there is >> course they get paid drafties get paid. >> Yeah, you still get drafties get paid. >> You still get paid and you also get your uh education paid for by going into the
03:21:26
Diana Sixtomilitary. get certain benefits. If you were to you're to answer your question, if you wanted to get people together really quickly without needing a draft, then you pay them. >> So, does that answer your question?
03:21:39
Andrew Wilson>> So, here's the thing that's funny is like we've been we've been through this, right? >> You can offer large cash incentives in order to levy troops somewhat quickly. I agree with this. But if you're in a major war where you're seeing actual
03:21:51
Andrew Wilsonsignificant casualties, which we haven't seen since uh basically Vietnam or before that World War II, guess what? Cash incentives. 20,000 $30,000 come
03:22:01
Diana Sixtoback in a body bag doesn't work. So what do they then do? They do what? Levy what? >> I'm not sure because they I don't see >> You're not sure that they levy a draft when that happens? >> I don't see that ever happening again in
03:22:14
Diana Sixtothe future for any kind of reason. Do you? Do you? >> Yes. now. Yes, of course. We have We have drones and robots now. We don't even need >> The last draft wasn't that long ago. Of course. >> Well, this is one area where we're going to agree to disagree because I think
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Marsthat >> You think it's impossible we'll ever have a draft again? >> Yes. >> Impossible. >> Impossible. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> We'll see. >> Can't we just Can't we just switch the humans out with robots since they're
03:22:38
Megan Loftessgoing to be better at fighting anyway? >> Just because we we use robotics for so many other things. drone strikes in a lot of modern >> have a bunch of robots running down the
03:22:48
Andrew Wilsonfield. >> What I mean what's I mean to be a robot. >> Yes. >> Correct. Okay. So then >> we agree to disagree. >> We get rid of So we get rid of >> So hang on. We get rid of the draft laws
03:23:02
Andrew Wilsonand then after we get rid of the draft laws I just want to let I just want to ask like should women still have privileges when it comes to Titanics going down? They get the boats and the the children get the boats first. I
03:23:13
Diana Sixtothink that it should be equal honestly. But regardless of me thinking that it should be equal, men are all men, gentlemanly men, traditional men are always going to put the women and children first. That might not be you.
03:23:24
Andrew WilsonIt could be you. I'm not saying it's not, but gentlemanly men have been the ones who do that and decide that for themselves. >> So then the idea here is you don't need to yield anything to the privileges for
03:23:36
Diana Sixtowomen in society because it is the case that men just really want to do that [ __ ] for you. >> Yes. So I keep Yes. So I keep going back to the question. What is it that you want from me? >> I want a rescendence. I want a
03:23:47
Diana Sixtorescendence of authority. If you want to have privilege. Yes. >> Okay. So how would you what how would you exercise that authority? >> What do you mean? Well, we would just do it. We would do it civically.
03:24:00
Andrew Wilson>> Through like the rescendence of the 19th amendment, various things like this. >> So take away their >> Well, I'm not taking anything away. >> But >> wait a second. Women if this would be a social agreement. So yeah. So if the
03:24:12
Andrew Wilsonidea is socially in a social agreement, >> women want to retain privilege, >> they want to retain privilege of like lifeboats like you don't. I get it. But
03:24:22
Andrew Wilsonif women do, if they want the idea of we have a privileged spot in society, we get gentlemanly. We get treated gentlemenly, we get treated this way, we get treated that way.
03:24:34
Andrew Wilson>> Then it is the case that it was always the case that women couldn't vote either. Mhm. >> Only post vote did you start seeing the ideas of chivalry start to go out the window as egalitarianism and equality came in. So if it's the case that you
03:24:47
Andrew Wilsonjust don't care about that, then we don't really have much of an argument because ultimately all you're saying is men really shouldn't do these things. I have no good compelling reason why men should do this. >> No, I like for men to have the option to do it or not because then it shows me
03:24:59
Diana Sixtotheir character and I'm going to >> Why would they have lower character by not doing it? Um, well, I I it is a personal opinion think that they have lower character by not doing it. And so I'm going to pick >> Yeah, but what would make that lower character?
03:25:12
Andrew Wilson>> I'm going to pick the guy that does. >> Yeah, I get that. I get that. But what would actually in fact make that a man of lower character? >> I've said it's my opinion, did I? >> Do you think that women deserve to vote?
03:25:23
Andrew Wilson>> Well, if you're going it depends on how you want to structure society. If you want to structure society with with female privilege intact, then no. But if you want to structure society with
03:25:34
Andrew Wilsoncomplete equity and egalitarianism, which is what feminists want, then sure. Depends on how you want to structure society. >> How do you want to restructure society? >> I think it would probably be a whole
03:25:45
Andrew Wilsonhell of a lot better if if you're going to maintain female privilege to yield authority. But if women don't want to give up female priv or get back female privilege and then yield authority, then
03:25:57
Diana Sixtowhat'll end up happening inevitably is men are going to just take it. I would absolutely hate to be in a system where you have authority over women and that is precisely why >> what would happen in the system where I had authority over women. >> I think that you would abuse that power.
03:26:12
Diana SixtoHow >> I think that >> give me a specific. >> Sure. Historically when people are in different levels of authority and don't have equality and aren't treated as equal human beings and I'm not saying men and women are the same. Let me
03:26:24
Diana Sixtofinish. They should be treated as equal human beings like let's say slavery right they had people were in a position of power so what did they do they abused that power when men uh when women could
03:26:37
Diana Sixtonot be financially independent in this country well >> and this is very sad but men had the opportunity back in the day to be good
03:26:46
Diana Sixtohusbands to provide for their families to be loyal husbands right but since women didn't have the financial capability ility of escaping a marriage, right? Then they had to put up with
03:26:59
Diana Sixtocheating, with domestic abuse, domestic violence. And what is evidence of the fact that they weren't happy is that once they finally had the opportunity to be financially independent, they did and
03:27:10
Andrew Wilsonthey didn't continue to get married. >> I understand. So then would you then would you say then and I'll I'll just wrap it up. We'll wrap it up like very quickly, Brian. Okay, we'll wrap it up quickly. I understand.
03:27:21
Andrew Wilson>> So the idea here is pre women's suffrage collectively then if men are collectively not wanting to give women the right to vote which they didn't they were in fact abusing women. >> They were what?
03:27:34
Diana Sixto>> In fact abusing women by not giving them the right to vote. I think that they definitely abused their power by not being able to by women not being able to evidence of that
03:27:45
Andrew Wilson>> their parents right to be able to maintain them or those I understand that's consistent correct. So then the idea here would you refer to that collective of men who was oppressing by not giving that right to vote a
03:27:58
Diana Sixtopatriarchy >> necessarily was that a patriarchy well if it's collective is that collective a patriarchy >> system that system is absolutely a system where patriarchy where men can be
03:28:11
Diana Sixtoabusive to women >> and were they is that a patriarchy that grandma you know my grandma your grandma whatever was can you repeat my question wasn't happy back in the day under that system cuz she could have had
03:28:21
Andrew Wilson>> was that system necessarily a patriarchy if women were not allowed to vote because the men collectively >> by definition >> was it a patriarchal system patriarchy because women can't vote
03:28:33
Andrew Wilson>> yes and men are saying no >> yes I think that is a society that is patriarchal >> so you think it was good for women to get together and resist this patriarchy right >> get their right to vote and
03:28:46
Andrew Wilson>> yes by resisting that patriarchy >> I believe that women did the right thing and fighting for the right. >> Now, I'm just going to tell you this. The definition of feminism is the movement towards egalitarian by deconstructing and resisting the
03:28:59
Andrew Wilsonpatriarchy. >> Okay. So, that's your definition. No, that's the definition. >> If that's your definition, then call me a feminist. I don't care. I'm going to You're a fem. Yes. Exactly. >> You're a feminist. Yes. You're a
03:29:11
Diana Sixtofeminist. Yes. 100%. >> Go ahead and Google feminists nowadays. You know, you have the first wave feminism, second wave feminism, third wave. >> What do they all have in common? They're resisting. If there's an oppressor oppressed class and women are the
03:29:25
Andrew Wilsonoppressed class, who's the oppressor class? >> First wave feminism was making sure his question answered class. Wait, can you can you answer? >> If there's an oppressed class and if there's an oppressed class and an oppressor class, and women are the
03:29:38
Andrew Wilsonoppressed class, who's the oppressor class? >> It would be men that don't allow women to vote. It would be. And if men collectively And if men are collectively not allowing that, >> you think that's good. >> I think patriarchies are great. And if >> Great. And that's why we're losing elections. Thank you.
03:29:51
Andrew Wilson>> Who? To who? You still didn't answer. >> We We got Trump elected. People with my view got Trump elected. People that like should have the right to vote. Did work on the ground. >> Oh yeah. I I did no work. It was all the TP. It was all you. You did all the work.
03:30:03
Andrew Wilson>> No, I'm saying I had a part in that. But >> we all had a part in that. But the point is is like >> you drove >> we all had a We all had a part in getting him elected. Thanks. >> No, you did. You drove women away from getting him elected. >> Okay, we drove women, which it must be
03:30:15
Andrew Wilsonwhy he was getting so many female votes from married men. But what do I know? Just the stats show it. But in any case, if that's the case, you want to resist the patriarchy. >> I don't want to resist the patriarchy. >> That's by definition.
03:30:29
Diana Sixto>> But if it's your version of the patriarchy, sure. I never What do you mean my version? >> I never want my daughters to live in a society where they have no voice. And I don't think you would want your daughters to live in that either. equal
03:30:41
Andrew Wilsonto vote. They always had women always had a voice. If women didn't have voice on, can you explain something to me? If women didn't have a voice before they got the right to vote, how did they get prohibition passed?
03:30:53
Diana Sixto>> Oh, by being nagging by being people like me. >> Wait, they had a voice. So they wait, they had a voice >> that you find extremely annoying. >> So they had a voice. So they had a voice. >> Uh they collectively got together.
03:31:06
Andrew Wilson>> So because they had a voice >> and organized within themselves >> because they had a voice. They didn't have a voice. >> Then how did they get it passed? >> Are you talking about could they speak? Are you you know just >> Yeah. How how did they get an amendment
03:31:17
Diana Sixtopassed before they could vote if they had no voice? >> Because they did it through leverage, right? >> Oh, so they had a voice. >> No, they actually were bad, rebellious wives. So we're not going to cook for you. We're not going to clean for you.
03:31:31
Diana SixtoWe're not going to do all this stuff. We're going to stop society from moving forward unless you give us a right. >> So they had a voice and men listen to them. So they had leverage and they forced the hand.
03:31:41
Diana Sixto>> Okay. So then they had political power. They So they had political power without the 19th. That's so weird. >> So So that's >> how did women have all this political power without the 19th? >> You think that's how you want women to do things?
03:31:52
Andrew Wilson>> I think that women always >> You want your wife to do things being a nagging wife. >> Oh no. You're making my point for me. My point is is that women had women women collectively had a collective voice and
03:32:04
Andrew Wilsonthey collectively had leverage and they were looked to for issues of moral certainty. What they were not looked to was for being political cogs or having any space in that wheelhouse. They had
03:32:15
Andrew Wilsontheir own. But to say that women weren't listened to, hang on. Say to say women weren't listened to, to say that women had no voice, to say that women had no leverage, women couldn't couldn't get their will passed before they could vote even though they got an amendment
03:32:28
Andrew Wilsonpassed. One of the stupidest amendments, by the way. They had to get rid of it. >> Help us win. >> They had to get rid of it. >> It's fantastic. You are so great for this movement. >> I am. I'm fantastic. We need more feminism. I wish we had more feminism
03:32:41
Andrew Wilsonand resistance to the patriarchy. That's really great for conservatism. >> Prenups and feminism. Oh, no religion. What a fantastic What a conservative movement for you.
03:32:53
Diana Sixto>> What a great conservative movement. >> Your is in our favor. You're How is it better for women? Women's happiness. Crashed. >> Yeah, you crashed. >> Yeah, you really seem to be crashing out
03:33:05
Diana Sixtothere. Um, I think that I can convince the girls here to vote for common sense conservatism and a republic. >> Yeah, it's just liberal. You're just giving them feminists. You're >> talking about rhinos. >> Uh versus if you tried to make an
03:33:18
Andrew Wilsonargument for them voting for whoever you're supporting, I don't think that they would be. I actually agree with this point. I listen I 1,000% agree with your point that if you sell feminists on
03:33:30
Andrew Wilsonfeminism, they'll vote how you want. I totally agree with you. 1,000% tell all the feminists to be feminist, they're definitely going to agree with that. >> I'm saying that women should have equal value to men and an equal voice
03:33:43
Megan Loftess>> and resist the patriarchy. >> If that's what you call resistance, >> got to resist that patriarchy. Patriarchy. >> One, one sec here. Just the fact that she voted for Trump though means that she's not a feminist. >> No,
03:33:57
Andrew Wilson>> Trump is not a feminist. >> A lot of what are called turfs voted for Trump. Those are transexclusionary radical feminists. They're the most avid feminists and they voted for Trump for
03:34:08
Andrew Wilsonone specific issue because they were transexclusionary. They were pissed off that transgender men, well, they were actually men, right? Uh but trans women are going into their sports leagues kicking their teeth in, bashing their
03:34:20
Andrew Wilsonfaces in, kicking the [ __ ] out of them. Right? So they actually had a small movement which was pushing back saying we will put Trump in office cuz he's going to make a mandate there's only two two genders. And guess what he did? Made
03:34:32
Andrew Wilsona mandate there's only two genders. Transexclusionary radical feminist went right to their agenda. So like make him a feminist. One thing does not make him a feminist. >> Hold on really quick. Didn't say he was
03:34:42
Brian Atlasa feminist. I said that you can't say by definition a person's not a feminist because they voted for Trump. That's silly. >> Really quick, just because it came up. By the way, based Justin, I'm sorry I
03:34:54
Brian Atlasmissed your TTS. Here's what I'm going to do for you because I I missed it. I'm I'm going to let it come through. If you want to send in one for for the minimum threshold for me to be able to see it for 10, I'll treat that as a second I'll
03:35:06
Brian AtlasI'll do it as a read or as a second TTS if you want because of my I missed it. That was my bad base, Justin. Sorry, but question since it just came up. What is a woman? Starting with you. >> So great. What is a woman?
03:35:18
Mars>> What is a woman? >> A woman is an individual human that was
03:35:27
Marsborn with and has female parts and organs and reproductive system unless
03:35:35
Marsthey there was some sort of health issue in the matter. Um, yeah, that's or I guess that's a real woman. A a real woman. A biological woman. A biological
03:35:48
Marswoman. >> Are trans women women? >> It slipped. Freudian slip. >> I'd say that's a very like nuanced question, but yes. Yes, I do believe
03:35:59
Marsthat trans women are women. I just don't believe that they are the same as biological women. >> So, >> your hold on your answer. I genuinely agree with that. I don't think
03:36:13
Mary Jane>> that >> here as we're going around the table on these questions, don't be like, I agree with this person. Just restate your own position. >> Yeah. Um I think a woman is someone who is born with the anatomy, but I don't
03:36:26
Mary Janethink that it's right to invalidate transgender women. And um you know I I try to keep an open mind about it but realistically like and logically speaking um
03:36:38
Mary Jane>> but what is a woman? >> Like if you had to define it. >> I couldn't put a definition to what a woman is. Like I I'm not necessarily
03:36:49
Mary Janelike someone with a like someone with a vagina I guess. But at the same time sorry can Go on. >> Oh, well,
03:37:02
Brian Atlas>> you're going to ask >> like the post-operative men, well, trans women who have po They're posttop trans women. Are they Do they have a vagina? Is that
03:37:13
Brian Atlasa vagina? >> It's um a cosmetic vagina. >> It's a cosmetic vagina. >> Yes. >> So, could I put a cosmetic vagina in my armpit? >> And is that the vagina?
03:37:26
Mars>> Okay. I don't think you can. >> I cannot. Why don't Why couldn't you? >> I'm sorry. To turn the penis inside out the vagina, put it on his arm if you'd like. I guess I think you could do it. We move. They can these days for sure.
03:37:39
Diana Sixto>> Yeah, we we could. >> Does that not sound insane to you? >> Uh, your answer to the question, what is woman? >> Insane in reality. I think the surgery is greedy. >> A woman is somebody that was born with
03:37:49
Diana Sixtoreproductive female parts. There are only two genders. A woman is somebody that menstruates, meaning they have the four men menstrual uh the four parts of the menstrual cycle, which I'm curious if you guys know since this is a dating
03:38:02
Diana Sixtoshow and it is the essence of being a woman. Um but yeah, that is a woman. >> Do you know actually? Yeah, I'm curious. I mean there's like ludial fizz and >> what are the other [ __ ] know but
03:38:13
Brian Atlas>> that's basics to be right and this is this is we're talking about but it's not hold wait just I got to keep things on [ __ ] track answer the question
03:38:25
Kayla (Passes)>> I would just say being a woman is the polar opposite of being a man like anatomy and yeah >> what is that >> I think being a woman is being a person
03:38:36
Sarah (Angelique)that was born with female reproductive systems. >> A woman is uh if you were born a woman at birth, whatever God chose for you to be, you're either man or woman.
03:38:48
Megan Loftess>> An adult, human, female. >> I would say a woman is someone that represents or um puts out feminine traits and uh dresses femininely. So, I do believe that trans people can become
03:39:01
Courtney (MS)women. >> So, if I dress like I dressed in a feminine way, I could be a woman. >> Yeah. If you wanted to be. >> Okay. you >> a postpubescent human being with XX chromosomes.
03:39:12
Megan Loftess>> Okay, you if you want to weigh in, I guess you can. >> Oh, well, just give the ant. Okay. Godamn. >> Okay. If you're >> It's really not that hard. Just somebody [ __ ] tell
03:39:23
Megan Loftess>> a woman is a person that's been born with a vagina and it's invalidating to women for men to try to take on that role. >> So, don't invalidate women. Yes, it is.
03:39:34
Ella>> I disagree. Yeah. Uh, a woman is a woman who's, you know, born a woman. It's kind of self-evident. >> Okay. Uh, Bass Justin, your TTS coming through.
03:39:45
SPEAKER_08>> Based Justin donated $200. Feminist is as feminist does. The proof is in the pudding. Being single without kids at 32 after apparently pursing a
03:39:58
Brian Atlastrack on. Of course, I [ __ ] play it when she's gone. Self-reflection. >> Uh, I'll play it again, bro. I didn't [ __ ] read it. All right. Um, I have to wait for the other TTS's. She's gone. Um, >> can I make one statement?
03:40:09
Brian Atlas>> Hold on. Let me read these. Uh, hold on. These are all related to her. Um, is this related? Greetings from Bavaria.
03:40:22
Brian AtlasPoor misguided victims of degenerate feminist propaganda like chair 3 are given multiple podcast or channels on German state media which we are forced to pay for unfortunate unfortunately. Be glad it's not the case in the USA.
03:40:34
Andrew WilsonQuestion for Andrew. Emmigrate from EU. Yes or no? >> Yes. EU is being taken over by them.
03:40:44
Brian AtlasIt's being taken over by Well, it's being taken over by Muslims. Let's be real. It is. >> It's not Europe anymore.
03:40:53
Brian Atlas>> But you know what? We need based people like Ari to remain in their uh the fatherlands and the motherlands
03:41:02
Brian Atlasto uh repel the threat. >> You We can't seed Europe. We can't seed Europe, Andrew. We need them to fight
03:41:13
Andrew Wilsonfor their country. >> You have to stop. Remember, >> she said that no men should be drafted and that there's no obligation for men to do anything like that. They just want to. So if that guy doesn't want to stay
03:41:26
Brian Atlasthere and fight off the hordes for his women, he should come here and party. >> That is a fair point. You do raise a fair point. You know what are the men fighting for? What are the the the European men? >> You're fighting for the what's the chemical called?
03:41:39
Andrew Wilson>> Vasopressin. >> Oh, you're fighting for You're fighting for the fastenopress. >> The fasopropen so that you will feel better
03:41:48
Brian Atlas>> about yourself. No, I mean uh you do raise a good point though. It's like men fought to protect
03:41:59
Brian Atlaswhat they had, but what is there now to protect? A bunch of >> purple-haired, angry, septum having feminist, misandress women who have
03:42:09
Andrew Wilsoncomplete contempt for men. >> No, even the the look, the femons are worse. The fem are 10 times worse. The idea is is like >> you just
03:42:20
Courtney (MS)>> you just we're not talking about it. You just want to do it because makes you feel good. >> But correct me if I'm wrong, but in the EU, didn't they recently make the draft for men and women? >> I don't think so.
03:42:34
Anya (Ana Lacy)>> But you know who gets really funny about that? >> Or maybe they were talking. >> Let me let me have Anya come in. Go ahead. >> Um, so basically, who was it that asked like, "Oh, if she was a feminist, why would she vote for Trump?" Somebody
03:42:46
Anya (Ana Lacy)asked that. Um, I said that. >> Okay. So there's basically this ideology in men called the sneaky [ __ ] syndrome or sneaky [ __ ] but they call it sneaky [ __ ] whatever that basically men will
03:42:56
Anya (Ana Lacy)pretend to be feminists um so that women will sleep with them because most women want or not most women but so basically I think women I think women have started to do it on the opposite end where
03:43:08
Anya (Ana Lacy)they're doing the sneaky [ __ ] syndrome where they're pretending to be feminist but I mean pretending to be con but still holding their feminist values. as
03:43:18
Anya (Ana Lacy)we see chair 3 doing and just calling them conservatives, calling themselves conservatives while not actually being conservative and still being feminists, but voting in the same way so that their husband or their boyfriend or other men
03:43:31
Anya (Ana Lacy)are like, "Oh, you're a tribe, so you must you must be a good woman." >> Look, Europe is not lost yet. >> Europe is not lost. >> Yeah, but what what are they saving it for?
03:43:44
Megan Loftess>> Can I say something about the feminism thing? I think I think our friend from the TPUSA I think she's like feminist propaganda to be quite honest with you. As if every
03:43:55
Megan Loftesswoman in the world is in her position just because they've chosen to go out and get a job. It's just not attainable. So for liberalism to promise me a fancy
03:44:06
Megan Loftessjob in an office, you know, it's so far it hasn't happened. I don't know a lot of people that it has happened for. It's very rare and you have to be from a very
03:44:16
Megan Loftesswealthy family or be or take out loans and debt into to get go to a really good school that's really hard to get into and hard to pay for to get a really nice job somewhere. And so it's just it's
03:44:28
Megan Loftessjust propaganda and it's I understand why >> you call her a feminist, you know, because she's the ideal >> form of what people have been trying to
03:44:39
Megan Loftesssell us on what feminism is. But most of feminism is at this table right now and it's selling our bodies over the internet. Disagree. >> Okay, hold on. I'm letting this come through. This is for you.
03:44:51
SPEAKER_08>> Justin donated $200. Feminist is as feminist does. The proof is in the pudding. Being single without kids at 32 after apparently pursing at
03:45:02
Diana Sixtoleast seven tradon men while more attractive than most. Self-reflect much? >> Quick response to this? Quick response is, do you really think I don't have a choice to be married right now with kids?
03:45:15
Diana Sixto>> Me of all people. >> What? What do you mean? >> Yeah. >> I mean, I have nothing but good high value conservative >> into the mic. >> Conservative men to, you know, choose
03:45:27
Diana Sixtofrom, but I also have a boyfriend and he is that exactly. And it's just taking our pace in making, you know, in doing those official things. eggs frozen?
03:45:39
Diana Sixto>> No. What the heck? My eggs are fine. Thank you for asking. That's so weird. >> Just I don't think it's weird. >> Okay. >> They're fine. In fact, I'm glad. You know what? Since you brought up the subject, actually.
03:45:53
SPEAKER_08>> Nope. >> Yes, you did. >> No, you're not going to [ __ ] hijack the the show. >> Blonde Fem, shut the bunny up. Quit giving main character and act like you
03:46:04
SPEAKER_08control the convo. You've not answered one question directly yet. Get the ball gag. One of the others have to help.
03:46:13
Brian Atlas>> I love the message. Um, this is below the threshold, but um, I'll just read it, guys. We're just going to do 200 and up. Okay. Uh, I'm starting to think the
03:46:23
Brian Atlasfeminist liberals hired at TPUSA. Uh, are fake conservatives had it out as fake conservatives had it out for Charlie. Okay. Well, you don't work there anymore, right? You're ex No TP USA. No, but I'm very proud of my time
03:46:35
Diana Sixtoat TPSA and at Turning Point Action. You're proud of the work that I that I did there as well. But since you're mentioning eggs, it's scientifically proven that men's sperm and defective
03:46:46
Diana Sixtosperm is the reason why we have the most miscarriages and also genetic abnormalities in men. So women's are born with all the eggs that they're ever going to have in their life regardless
03:46:57
Diana Sixtoof their lifestyle choices. However, men >> fertility decodies over age. It's the same. >> After the age of 35, the amount of eggs absolutely does go down, but the quality
03:47:08
Brian Atlasdoesn't. However, that's not the key. However, for men, stop. You're not going to you're not just going to filibuster the entire [ __ ] episode. So, uh the reality is
03:47:19
Brian Atlas>> is we're not strictly just talking about if if your claim is it's strictly the the egg quality. There's other components to pregnancy like the reality is as women uh get older the chance of
03:47:31
Diana Sixto>> that's a reality >> uh the the chance of miscarriage increase there's other potential complications. The worst the worst factor in miscarriages is a low quality in men's pregnancy. And we were talking
03:47:43
Diana Sixtoabout freezing eggs. I know you probably don't know about this, but it's alcohol is one of the primary reasons for having genetic abnormalities. And then a woman's actual pregnancy like whether
03:47:55
Diana Sixtoshe has morning sickness, whether it is a good >> why the Irish are dumb. A good pregnancy or a bad pregnancy is very dependent on the lifestyle the man had before they
03:48:05
Brian Atlasconceived in the first place. This is factual science and anybody watching can look this up and I hope >> it's better hold on. It's better for both men and women to have children when they're younger. I agree with you that
03:48:17
Sarah (Angelique)sperm quality declines over age more because of lifestyle choices. >> But what about women? What if women >> common and it has to be an entire conversation. >> What if women have bad lifestyle choices? Wouldn't it be like valid on
03:48:29
Diana Sixtoboth points? Like if they both if a woman drinks during pregnancy, that's way worse than a man. >> Yeah. Their their body definitely would not handle pregnancy as well, but it doesn't affect the quality of their eggs because they're born with the eggs that
03:48:42
Diana Sixtothey have. Does that make sense? >> So, if you're if you're doing heroin and doing all this [ __ ] that has zero impact on egg quality. >> Absolutely. But do you know since again this is a dating podcast, how what is
03:48:53
Diana Sixtothe average cycle of a man to produce a new um let's say batch to put it politely? >> I don't know 2 weeks maybe. >> No, it's actually 90 days. So if you
03:49:03
Diana Sixtowant a healthy batch before conception, you need to be cleansed for 90 days. No alcohol. Try to get healthy. try to get in shape so that a woman can have the healthiest pregnancy possible and you
03:49:16
Diana Sixtohave a great, you know, baby with the best genetic potential. That's great. >> So, it's crazy that you don't know this and we're on a dating show, but that's why I'm here because I want more people to know this. >> When did uh >> Uhhuh. >> I I don't understand if we're going to
03:49:28
Brian Atlasjust do a pop quiz like, oh, you don't know this very specific thing about like physiology. How how does that even pertain to dating? I'm sure there's certain things that you don't you aren't aware of like male bodily function or even female bodily function that I could
03:49:42
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> So, are you are you an expert in all physiology? >> I actually obnoxious. I'm just You're actually >> I'm sure I am to you. >> Uh probably to the vast amount of people too. Yeah. No, it's just
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Brian Atlas>> and your followers too for sure. >> Yeah. But I don't understand how how because I have a dating podcast, does that mean I need to be like a complete expert on physiology? >> Well, no. Absolutely not. >> Okay. So, what's your point? Well, my
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Diana Sixtopoint is that this is something that has to do with dating and relationships between men and women. Like what is a woman? What is a woman's, you know, menstrual cycle like? What are the four phases of it? I think that's the essence
03:50:17
Diana Sixtoto being a woman. In this podcast historically, you know, you guys ask questions that have nothing to do with dating like, you know, when was the World War I and what decade was it in the World War II? What decade was it?
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Diana SixtoRight? >> We had all kinds of questions. to do with dating, but the questions I'm asking have to do with the whatever podcast we talk about and primarily dating. >> Okay. So,
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Brian Atlas>> and sometimes we have fun segments that that go into different uh >> different genres. I don't see I don't see a problem with that. >> Okay. I'm just saying that I think the questions I asked in relation to >> But some of those things actually don't
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Andrew Wilsonmake much sense. So, for instance, Yeah. So, for instance, you said that the whole reason for this is because of how it pertains to being a woman. what a woman is. But you would admit that you can have women who don't have any cycles at all.
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Diana Sixto>> Oh, yeah. >> Okay. So then they're still women though. >> Yes. >> Yeah. So then but are you really going to point that out? >> So So hang on. So when you point that out, right, you're not going to say that
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Andrew Wilsonwomen who have no cycles aren't still women. And the problem with those arguments and these are particularly >> Now you're sounding like a feminist. >> These are the particularly bad ones. The opposite. These are the particularly bad
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Andrew Wilsonones which come from my side, the right. unfortunately is that the left will endlessly reduce this. And I could do it for you right now to show you how they'll endlessly reduce it. Um, which is why you have to actually have the
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Andrew Wilsongood answers for this for what a woman actually is. Um, that Walsh did not, unfortunately. He was close though. >> Joe Walsh, Mattal. So, when you say these things, you're like, well, I'm just only saying this
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Andrew Wilsonbecause that's what it pertains to being a woman. It's like, no, you can be a woman and not have any of those things, actually. >> Okay. So look at you sounding all feminist. >> That's not feminist. You would agree with me that that's the case, right?
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Diana Sixto>> Yes, I agree with the case. But I think for the vast majority of women, having a cycle is what makes the essence of being a woman, the the pain that we have to
03:52:17
Diana Sixtoendure during our menstrual cycle. And the fact that it is beneficial for men to know that information because then you know how to act around a woman during different uh phases where she has
03:52:28
Diana Sixtomore energy, less energy. Do you know, for example, how many days out of a woman's uh cycle she can actually get pregnant? Because I'm against birth control. >> [ __ ] cares. Holy [ __ ] Sorry.
03:52:41
Brian AtlasReclaiming my time. Reclaiming my time. >> Reclaiming your time. But I'm just No, it's not. You've You've hijacked the [ __ ] conversation. Yes. Here. Let me ask the panel. Do you feel like she's hijacking the conversation? Show of
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Brian Atlashands. >> I think we have a choice to speak up as well. >> Yeah. But but it like she she will like I'm the host. When we're going around on a question, answer the question. Let somebody else speak. >> Well, this one was my fault.
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Andrew Wilson>> I think she has a lot to say >> because I did I did actually >> I did actually point this out. >> Yeah. I don't think it's intentional, but it is a lot. >> But yeah, the thing but the thing is is I'm just pointing out that if you have an exception here, the exception will be used. They'll say, "Well, that's an
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Andrew Wilsonexception to the rule." But if you're calling that a woman, then your definition can't be correct. That's why I'm always going, okay, well, we got to really critique the argument to make sure we got the right one. Because while
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Andrew Wilsonyou could say this is in the essence of a thing, it's like, so >> is it the thing? >> Yeah. >> And it's not the thing. >> No. I also mentioned having >> female bodily reproductive parts in terms. But you would agree there, too, that
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Diana Sixtowe're so off track. >> You don't need to have any female reproductive parts to be a female. Let me get a new question. And in that case, they would probably be somewhere like that's a medically abnormal uh example that you're giving. >> There's only two genotypical pass you
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Diana Sixtocan take. >> Actually, it's called Kleinfelter syndrome and you can have an XXY chromosome. So, you have both male and female. >> That's correct. Kleinfelter system syndrome though would not dictate sex
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Andrew Wilsonand never has. So, you can have males who have a a double X chromosome, but they're still male. >> Yeah. And just like you can have females who have a Y chromosome. So you can't use that either.
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Andrew Wilson>> Which is why you have to utilize genotypical the genotypical pathways. >> What's what's your point to all this? My point was >> okay go ahead. My point is is that you I can reduce your position to nonsense and that's why it's bad arguments from the
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Brian Atlasright. >> The basics of women and I think we should start there on a dating podcast. >> Basics of women. So, a man who doesn't know the the names of the ludial phases, which by the way, >> men in happy marriages and relationships know their women's phases. Trust me,
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Andrew Wilson>> that's true. >> They don't know what the ludal phase is, though. Them knowing that their woman's on her period has nothing to do with knowing what it's called. >> You're less of a if you don't know the
03:54:59
Brian Atlasphys like the the biological or phys physiological phases of a woman's menration or periods, you're less of a man because of that. >> But you do get brownie points. I don't think you're less of a man, but it does
03:55:10
Megan Loftesshelp you within the relationship and the dynamic if you know what phase your uh wife or girlfriend is going through because then you >> she's always in the I'm going fishing phase. >> You'll have either more patience for her
03:55:21
Megan Loftessbecause she is PMSing or you will have you will know that she's going to be really horny this week because she is in that >> ovulation >> in ovulation, right? It kind of sets you up for success knowing what phase you're
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Diana Sixto>> correct. And it's also why don't uh I think women don't need birth control if they plan around uh their cycle. And so the way to do that, and I'm sure this is a position you as conservatives probably
03:55:45
Diana Sixtoagree with, you know, not being on hormonal birth control because it's bad for women. The way to get off of that is by tracking basil basil body temperature. >> Read the [ __ ] room, lady. Read the
03:55:56
Brian Atlas[ __ ] room. Why are we talking about why here? Let me be the host. You're the panelist. you're now you want to shift it into uh well as conservative uh men
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Brian Atlasyou should be aware of um you know the the birth control and let me host you're not the host be a panelist I will >> stop trying to direct the conversation lady >> do you wear the pants in your relationship
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Brian Atlas>> I don't I have a man >> you [ __ ] walk you walk your boyfriend on a [ __ ] leash I bet you [ __ ] peg that guy you [ __ ] peg that guy you're [ __ ] conservative here >> we just did we just finally cross the line where you assume assume things and
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Brian Atlastry to insult me. >> You've assumed things. You've been doing it all night. You've been doing it all night >> because you can't have a No, because you've been incredibly disrespectful and rude. Yes, you're trying to be the host. >> Tell me one disrespectful. You ought to
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Diana Sixtodefer to me. You ought to defer to me as the host. >> Go ahead. But I'm just I I ask specifically because I don't want to be rude. Can I ask this? Can I ask that? And then go ahead. But if you tell me,
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Brian Atlasyou know, if somebody else speaks or answers that question, I'll leave the floor to you. I want an entertaining podcast. I think we're getting a lot of views and subscribers. >> Yeah, but I want to be Yes. Yes. Entertainment is great and it is
03:57:08
Brian Atlasentertaining. Uh having you and Andrew debate it would probably for the viewers probably, frankly, the most entertaining thing would be for you guys to talk for the next 4 hours. That would probably, no offense to the other panelists, that
03:57:20
Brian Atlaswould probably be the most entertaining thing. But I need to balance that with the fact that we have 8 n 10 other people here who I would like to involve in the conversation. Go >> for it. and who could also perhaps provide some entertainment. >> Go for it.
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Brian Atlas>> Except for >> Could you ask another question? >> Next question. >> That's what I'm trying to do. I'm going to Let's I have uh two chats that I need to do here real quick. Uh hold on one
03:57:44
Megan Loftessmoment. We have Siri. Oh, what's this going to do? >> Siri donated $200. >> Hi, I'm Siri. >> Hi, Siri. >> Hi, Siri. >> Hi, Siri. >> Hello.
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Brian AtlasAll right. Um, okay. Uh, I'm trying to remember where we kind of left off. I think really >> you had asked the question, what is a woman? >> I I did ask that. I mean, I don't know if we fully finalized on the conversation. I was going around I I
03:58:12
Brian Atlaswould like to hear answers from the remainder of the panel. So, the question is if we can say men should, what can we say women should? Um well I don't think it's always
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