Andrew Wilson vs. 10 Feminists DEBATE! 3 RAGE QUITS?! SUPER FERAL CHAOS PANEL?! | Dating Talk 283

Date: 2026-02-23

Duration: 10h 01m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMia (Canadian)>

AAndrew Wilson >

AAnya (Ana Lacy)>

CCourtney (MS)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_02Mars(guest)

SPEAKER_03Sarah (Angelique)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Mia(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kayla (Passes)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Mary Jane(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Courtney (MS)(guest)

SPEAKER_10Diana Sixto(guest)

SPEAKER_11Ella(guest)

SPEAKER_12Megan Loftess(guest)

SPEAKER_13Anya (Ana Lacy)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Megan Loftess(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 14 guests introduced - most overbooked ever

Key MomentElla reveals she eats raw chicken and pork, believes in terrain theory

Key MomentAndrew Wilson and Diana Sixto begin marathon prenup/feminism debate

Key MomentAndrew presents force doctrine to the panel

ControversyAndrew gets Diana to accept she is a feminist by definition

Key MomentBrian reads Mars' full dominatrix service menu. Nuclear explosion sound effects.

QuoteElla: circumcision is genital mutilation that should never be done to babies

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

14 people - most overbooked episode ever. Includes Andrew Wilson, Mars (dominatrix), Diana Sixto, Ella (raw meat eater).

Ella's Raw Meat Diet

Eats raw chicken and pork. Believes in terrain theory. Parasites are beneficial.

Prenup Debate: Andrew vs Diana

Extended debate on prenups, women financial independence, marriage as institution.

Chivalry Debate

Brian argues sex workers don't deserve chivalry. Extended panel debate.

Andrew's Force Doctrine

Men monopolize force, women always appeal to men for rights. Feminism dismantling patriarchy is circular.

Mars Dominatrix Services

Brian reads Mars' full service menu including toilet play, CBT, financial domination.

Ella on Circumcision

Final hot take: circumcision is genital mutilation that should be illegal.

Transcript

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Miapractice but be submissive to the guy. If he's practicing sh I can't say the word shivery shiverousy >> the woman should be shiver >> then if in return then submissive to the

Kayla (Passes)man if he's practicing that >> I think for me at least I try to fill the gap as much as possible. So whether that be like cleaning his house or just basically doing whatever I can to like make up for the fact that he's doing all

Kayla (Passes)this stuff for me like opening doors and paying for dinners and stuff like that, I just try to be as nice and as submissive as possible. Submissive and chastity. I mean you

Sarah (Angelique)should let the man lead and you know play your role too. If you want a traditional uh traditional way of living, if you believe in that, then you should kind of go by those rules. Submissive, nurturing, deferring to him on

Anya (Ana Lacy)decisions. >> No, no, no. That can't be the angle, Nathan. >> Oh, sorry. >> Go ahead. Go ahead. >> Um, nurturing in in the family, loyalty, um, getting pregnant.

Megan Loftess>> Go ahead. I think if a man shiver ch towards me and what I can do return is look my best be a really um focused

Megan Loftesspartner and on their needs um since they're meeting my needs and I would also say um I can give back right so if they're

Megan Loftessbeing chivalous to me I can get them small gifts um I can create ideas for our own dates that way there's like a back and forth

EllaI think women should be respectful towards men. That's what I think. I know that's not the kind of question answer, >> but yeah, being respectful towards the

Ellaman, being respectful towards yourself, um helping with cooking as well as cleaning, uh child care, child birth if you're in a long-term committed relationship or you know the family is

Brian Atlasthe goal. Ideally, that would happen. >> Okay. I tend to agree with some of you. I think if men should be chivalous, women should be submissive. Women should defer

Brian Atlasto men's leadership. If women want men to be leaders, women should be followers. Women should defer to their men's leadership. In addition to that, I think uh women should be I think there's a term in the Bible, Andrew, you'll have

Brian Atlasto help. Help me. >> What a helpmate. >> Helpmate, I think, or am I thinking of something else? But essentially um

Andrew Wilsonthe woman should cook, woman should clean, etc., etc. >> Should not be vexing. >> Uh yes, >> that's it. >> Not nagging, not >> everything else. Everything else falls under that.

Andrew Wilson>> No, not vexing. >> What is that word? >> Vexacious. It's like >> um it's like you could associate it

Andrew Wilsonmaybe with running down or causing causing trouble, causing havoc, causing problems within uh his life. Basically

Andrew Wilsondeferring to herself instead of to him. That would be vexacious. >> So selfish or not thinking of person. >> Yeah. I mean

Andrew Wilson>> that those they're not quite synonyms like selfishness and ve and vexing. Next thing would be like a synonym be more like pain in the ass. >> Okay, >> that would be more >> going against.

Brian Atlas>> All right. Uh, next topic we have uh you know what we're going to do? Um, >> yeah, we'll do we'll do this. Uh, Mary Jane. >> Yes,

Megan Loftess>> that's you. Uh, you a disagreement you have with the show is age gap relationships. >> Yes. >> Uh, you're against them for a multitude of reasons. Why is that? because of the natural imbalance that can happen in

Megan Loftesswithin a age gap relationship for both genders. Uh naturally, someone who's much older is going to have more education. They're going to have more life experience. They're going to have a bigger income. And because of that

Megan Loftessimbalance, there is a higher risk for abuse or manipulation. That's why I'm against them. And I will add that I am a child of an age gap relationship. My father is 19 years

Megan Loftessolder than my mother. Um, and I have several family members that are in age gap relationships and I have seen them negatively be affected by them. >> Should your parents get divorced? >> Yes. My mother was 21 when she divorced my father.

Andrew Wilson>> Can I ask you a question? >> Oh, okay. Not were they divorced. Would you recommend that all of your friends who are in age gap relationships get a divorce? >> Um,

Megan LoftessI think it depends per uh relationship and the amount of age that the gap is. So, for example, if you know, if it's 10 years, you're younger. >> So, let's say you had one that are in a

Andrew Wilson15 year age gap relationship, a friend, they've been married for five years, and they have two kids together. Would you recommend that they go ahead and get divorced? >> If the woman is being any kind of abused or is it? >> Well, no. She says that she absolutely

Andrew Wilsonadores him and he says the same thing and they have kids together and they seem happy. Should they get >> then I wouldn't recommend a divorce. If they're happy, >> then age gaps themselves are not the problem.

Megan LoftessI would still say it's a problem just because of the all of the reasons I listed earlier of like the older person having a power imbalance. >> What is the power imbalance? >> Like I said, they have more money. They

Megan Loftesshave more life experience. It's easier to manipulate the the younger person into believing, okay, I'm this perfect like partner that's going to, you know,

Megan Loftessdo all of these things for you and then in the end they're maybe like not paying all the bills. You're trying to to make sure that you're in an age similar relationship. >> Okay, I can give you a perfect example.

Megan LoftessMy mother immigrated here with my father at 18, pregnant with me. My father was the provider. My father went out and worked. But a lot of times the lights

Megan Loftesswould go out because he wasn't paying the electric bill. He was gambling. Um my mother, it wasn't until my mother started speaking full English and was able to go get a job that we were able

Brian Atlasto reliably stay in a home. What does that hold on? Those those things could manifest themselves in an equal age relationship. >> Well, they're also that's also culturally informed. So they were coming from which nation?

Andrew Wilson>> Lebanon. >> Yeah. So there it's very common. >> Age gap relationships are very common. >> Yeah. Not only very common but so are incestuous relationships, right? Also very common. >> Cousins get married there. >> First cousins. >> Yes. Yes. >> So the thing is is like

Andrew Wilson>> the idea of having the the the cultural information being culturally informed. Don't you think that here in the United States there's a huge distinction between uh oh they're 16 17 18 in Iran and

Andrew Wilsonthey're marrying a 30-year-old because that's part of how they keep legacies together with their first cousins or whatever and various things like this and I live in the United States and can freely choose who I'm with and I have

Megan Loftessvery different cultural information >> but those kinds of marriages happen here too old get married 18-year-olds get Not usually they're not arranged marriages. >> I personally know a 19-year-old that got married to a 53y old.

Andrew Wilson>> What's the issue? >> And they were they were constantly boasting their age gap relationship >> and they ended up getting divorced. >> Yeah. But they end up getting verbally and emotionally abused. >> But let's say they didn't end up getting divorced. Yeah. Control.

Andrew Wilson>> But let's say they didn't end up getting divorced and let's say there was no emotional abuse and let's say they had two kids and let's say right now they were still happy. What would your issue then? Would you have an issue with it with the age gap itself? >> Because for me, my issue with the age

Megan Loftessgap comes with the power imbalance. And >> so your issue is not with age gaps, it's with power imbalances. >> Yes and no. Because there's still that maturity level that you reach when you

Andrew Wilsonget to a certain age and experience, >> but it's not inherent to the thing, right? So if the anytime I ask you what's the actual issue with the age gap, you point to things that have nothing to do with the age gap itself.

Andrew WilsonSo if it's the case you had an age gap where the power was not imbalanced from your view >> then that ageap >> well but even then you could have like a 30-year-old shut in guy who marries a

Andrew Wilson[ __ ] 19-year-old who's traveled with her parents all over the world. Then the experience seems equally yolked or similarly yolked. >> But she's not emotionally mature because her prefrontal cortex has not fully developed. >> Then why is she allowed to vote?

Andrew Wilson>> That's different than entering a marriage. far different outcome because if I >> you can vote on who can vote or you can vote on who can get married but you can't get married. >> No, I mean you can get married but I

Megan Loftesswould think that it would be a uh to a detriment or inappropriate for an 18-year-old to get married to a 30-year-old or a 50-year-old. >> Yeah. >> Because again, >> but I don't >> not just life experience. There's

Andrew Wilsoneducation. There's emotional maturity. >> Yeah. But do you see like the the conflation you're doing here? An 18-year-old, let's say she gets married to a 31-y old guy. That to you, no go, right? That's like no go. >> Yes.

Andrew Wilson>> Can the 18-year-old though override the vote of the 31-year-old guy? >> Override. >> Yeah. Meaning she can nullify his vote by just voting against him. >> I wouldn't agree that. I mean, I would say they both deserve the right to vote. >> They both have the right, but she can

Andrew Wilsonvote against him, which nullifies his vote, >> I guess. >> Yeah. So, so how is she informed enough to do that? She's informed enough to vote against him for all social issues in society, but is not informed enough to date him.

Mars>> Because I think that relationships and voting for a society are two different >> Yeah. One's way more important, and that would be voting for societal issues, right? >> A bunch of people to override each other. >> Being in a relationship, this is only

Andrew Wilsontwo people, right? The fact that being in you, you put your body, >> but now you're letting an 18-year-old vote in my interest, but at the same time saying that it would be somehow immoral if somebody my age dated one.

Andrew WilsonAnd it's like, wait, what? That's bizarre. Not saying that I would. I'm just pointing out this hypocrisy or not hypocrisy, but contradiction. >> You guys aren't coming together as a unit, though. You're just meshing in society.

Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. But the thing is is like if you can vote against my interest, right? Then we're considering you the same type of adult that I am. And so if that's the case, if you're being imbued with the

Andrew Wilsonpower of being the same kind of adult as me, then suddenly this saying that, hey, I'm going to infantilize women or infantilize young men and tell them that they can't do X or shouldn't do X, that

Mary Janeseems silly to me. It's like, are they adults or are they not adults? >> They're adults, but they live and they learn. And if they come across a man that's not a predator, then you know that just because he's older doesn't make him a predator. him acting like a

Mary Janepredator makes him a predator at that point. But that's true at any age relationships have all these differences. Isn't that true at any age? Like men at women at 21 dating a 21-year-old should avoid 21-year-old

Mary Janepredators. >> Target minors and at 18 they have that choice to go and date an older man. And if they do so, there might be consequences. It might be great. They might get abused.

Andrew Wilson>> There's also predatory 18-year-old OF girls who target lonely men. Like, so what? >> That's way. That is a way lower number of people. >> Predatory men.

Andrew Wilson>> Based on what? No. No. Based You said predatory men who are specifically targeting 18-year-olds to date him. >> So 18 younger women. >> Wait, what? >> Yeah. You're you're targeting an 18-year-old to date her. That makes you

Mary Janepredatory. >> No. What makes you a predator is if it's not not consensual. At 18, they can consent. That is their right to do something. That's my whole point. They are being infant. How do you >> Yeah, I'm just saying what would make

Andrew Wilsonthem a So, what would make a 30-year-old guy a predator for wanting to date 18-year-olds then? >> You can because you know that they have less experience with dating more. It's easier to get them to do what they want to do.

Kayla (Passes)>> Go ahead. >> So, I think Michaela Peterson actually made a tweet about this the other day. It went pretty viral. I think it's just cope for older women. Totally. >> Like being jealous of the younger women that are still fertile and desired by older

Kayla (Passes)>> women. I disagree entirely. I know. >> I've been approached by a 20-year-old that wanted to date me so badly. >> Stop. Let her finish her point. >> Okay, I think I lost my train of thought. But basically, >> that's why we don't want people interrupting.

Kayla (Passes)If you can >> fertility, >> Michaela Peterson. >> Well, you're referencing Michaela Peterson. >> Yeah. Okay. Thank you. So, basically, it's not because most of the time that the men are desiring the women for their

Mary Janeage. It's because they're desiring the traits of like the typical traits of a woman that age. >> Not every younger woman is going to be fertile. >> It's more typical. >> Okay. You guys,

Kayla (Passes)>> it's not about fertility. It's about multiple minds outliers and it just like >> Yes. >> Let me ask you a question. >> Do you do you believe in the idea of like biological evolution?

Andrew Wilson>> Yes. >> Okay. So, the whole idea of evolution is to procreate, right? It's to reproduce. That's like the primary edict. >> Yes.

Andrew Wilson>> So, wouldn't attraction be built into that primary edict? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, what would a man then be looking for the most based on attraction from an evolutionary standpoint to

Marsguarantee reproduction? >> Childbearing hips, fertile >> young women. >> Wait, young women? I mean, they don't have not want women their own age with women that aren't disrespecting them.

Mars>> No, I'm saying young women that's predatory sounding as Hang on. Adult Yeah. adult women. But like when you're always looking for a a young much we're talking about like much younger.

Mars>> Yeah, I am talking about that too. >> We're not talking about like 15y olds. We're talking about I do consider children. And we're talking about >> I know that I know that there's still differences. >> Hang on. Help me out here if I'm wrong.

Andrew WilsonJust graduated high school. >> Hang on. If I'm wrong, if I'm wrong, just help me out here. Just hang on. Hang on. Just walk through this with me. Do you believe that evolution is true? >> Yes. >> Okay. Is the primary edict of re of

Andrew Wilsonevolution to reproduce? That's the prime. Okay. So, is attraction built into reproduction? You can't reproduce with people. >> One of the things that leads to >> well reproduction and reproduction can

Marsalso happen without a relationship and marriage. But we're also talking in the sense of a relation. >> I'm just talking about attraction. I'm not even talking about that. I'm just talking about attraction. Absent attraction. There's no reproduction. >> Well, I'm not talking about us like we're animals right now.

Andrew Wilson>> I'm talking about I'm talking about humans. If you're not attracted to another human, you're not going to reproduce with them. >> So, you can't be attracted to someone your own age. >> That's not what I'm saying. I'm asking

Andrew WilsonI'm just asking you about attraction. >> So then if the primary edict is to reproduce, >> right? And it is >> then what do you think would be built in

Andrew Wilsonevolutionarily to men for who they should be most attracted to if they if reproduction is the primary edict?

MarsWouldn't it be younger fertile women? >> Yeah. But exactly. Yeah. But that's just one thing and there are so many points to it. younger fertile women. Okay, so now you're thinking about the mother.

MarsThis is the mother of my child. Is this younger fertile women woman just going to be your your point of your option because she's young and fertile? No, but it's going to be a primary reason. >> Yeah, I agree.

Andrew Wilson>> Do you need to consider other things like a who she is, her family, whatever. >> I agree with you in the point that humans use logic and reason and these various that we have various capability.

Andrew WilsonWe're not just root at root just pure instinct but attraction is the primary thing that matters uh for the beginning of a relationship. Very difficult for women to date men they're not attracted

Andrew Wilsonto and it's very difficult for men. They might screw a woman they're not particularly attracted to but they're not probably not going to date a woman that they're not attracted to at all. So attraction is the primary edict that would even start the idea of

Andrew Wilsonreproduction. So you >> So if it's the case So if it's the case that men from your own perspective would be attracted to younger women, of course they're going to be. Of course they are. And of course they're going to pursue that. That's what they're attracted to.

Andrew Wilson>> It's kind of like >> here I'll give you more evidence. When you do your makeup or you do hair, you get boob jobs or you do all these various things. Is that to look older? Raise your hand if any of you have ever

Andrew Wilsondone any cosmetic surgeries, makeup, anything so that you look older. Raise your hand. [ __ ] exactly. >> How about to look better? >> Exactly. >> Just not >> Okay, but can I get back to the fact that

Megan Loftess>> none of you are doing it to look older? >> I was asked by a 20-year-old. He wanted to be with me. He wanted to be I told him no. Why do you keep going to anecdotal? Because >> your whole argument is, well, it

Megan Loftesshappened to me. So, I'm b I'm basing my information off of experience and off of um the people around me. >> Off of one person's experience. >> No, not one person's experience. People's experience. Were you saying h >> what were you saying?

Brian Atlas>> Which when >> when you were whispering to her like literally 5 seconds ago. >> Oh, I said these are these are dumb arguments. >> What's a dumb argument >> about the just the whole age >> one what one of the last things he just

Megan Loftesssaid basically >> evolutionary part of being older. So >> okay. All right. Whatever. Go ahead. >> Okay. So I had a 20-year-old asking me to go on dates. He wanted to be my

Megan Loftesssubmissive. He wanted to be mine. He wanted to have sex with me. I said no because I know that I have more power within the dynamic, because of his youth, because of his inexperience,

Megan Loftessbecause of the maturity levels. I could have easily taken advantage of him and said, "Okay, well, this is going to be how the relationship will be. These are my expectations of you. I want you to change this about yourself and that about yourself." And he would have done

Megan Loftessso because he wanted me so badly because I'm older. >> Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. So, okay. You're a dominatrix. Is that correct? >> Yes. >> So, you do power play in your relationships. >> Yes. Ethically.

Brian Atlas>> Ethical. >> Ethically. >> But a 20-year-old can be in a consensual relationship with a 30-year-old. Your argument is completely >> self. They can be they can be in a consensual relationship. But what I'm

Brian Atlastrying to say wait stop wait stop. I believe that a vanilla relation age gap relationship, say like a 20-year-old dating a 30-year-old, there's way less

Brian Atlaspower dynamics going on than like a 30-year-old dating a 30-year-old in a [ __ ] dominatrix. Are you kidding me? A agap vanilla relationship is going to

Brian Atlashave way less of power plays than in the [ __ ] dominatri your whole your whole stop. Your whole relationship worse than other >> your whole stop. Your whole relationship

Brian Atlasstructure is a complete power play where you hold all the power. I understand it's consensual, but you'd have to agree that an age gap relationship are also consensual relationships. So your argument I just completely ridiculous

Megan Loftess>> unconsensual. And what my point is, the point I keep trying to make is is that there is a natural power imbalance and that the older person within the relationship, regardless if it's vanilla or kinky, >> there can be manipulation. There can be

Brian Atlasthe changing. >> Don't you step on dudes balls? Who the [ __ ] are you to say anything? Who >> and she does never break this. Here's what I think very safe.

Brian Atlas>> Hold on. Also, I I want to add I do not have kinky relationships with every relationship that I have. >> That's totally fine. But you do you are a dominatrix and you do degradation and you do when I'm asked to >> when you're asked to. However, here's my

Brian Atlasposition on some of this kink stuff. Now, I think some kink stuff is you might say that this this is kink shaming. You might say that, you know, well, it's all within the confines of consensual relationships, blah blah blah. I think some of these people who

Brian Atlashave this proclivity to certain kinks, uh, I think some of them are mentally ill. So when you talk about consent, uh, that kind of goes out the window. Like for example, a man who wants his balls

Brian Atlasto be like smashed that I believe is a mental illness and I don't think consent can exist when somebody wants that degree of self harm. So I think you're

Brian Atlasbeing sadistic, not just in a kinky way, but in a almost I think it goes beyond even consent. Uh, I I think that's a crazy power dynamic and you hold all the cards when you're the dom in that sort

Brian Atlasof kink relationship. And so this idea that men can consent to having their balls crushed, I think that that's mental illness. You're taking advantage of it. Most of these men pay you to do it.

Brian Atlas>> They're asking, she's not even asking. >> So, hold on. If a woman's not manipulating, >> can I ask you a question? Would this go into the realm of criminality? If a

Marswoman consensually asks me to stab her in the [ __ ] is that me taking Hold on. Stabbing their balls. She's not stabbing their balls. You have to say, "Kick me in the pussy." Then don't make an equal Yeah. Make an equal. >> Is there a crushing ball kink?

Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> Where with a high heel, you'll crush a man's balls. >> Yeah. So, I I believe this is getting into the realm of harm. And so, basically, do you think a woman could consent to me stabbing her in the vagina?

Mars>> We're talking about that. Can she consent to it? I don't agree with it. >> She can consent to that. It's sad. And and you should have medical background

Marsto do it in a proper place. And if she really really really wants to do that, then you need to figure out exactly how to do that safely. Go ahead and do it. How is there a safe way to >> Can I respond? I don't know. Ask a doctor. It would be really great if I

Megan Loftessactually have to be a doctor to say it's not safe to stab a woman in the respond. Let her respond. >> You can do every You can do things safely. Why not lip Let her respond. For

Megan Loftesssome people, receiving pain isn't even necessarily about the pain, right? It's about relinquishing control and having relief in that and relinquishing that

Megan Loftesscontrol to the other person. And some people can actually transmute pain into pleasure. So, even if we're talking about a guy getting his ball smashed, he might be getting off on that. >> Okay. Well, hang on. >> Yeah. Yeah, I get it. >> Or even or even have catharsis.

Andrew Wilson>> I understand exactly what you're saying. I have a question for you, though. How old are you? I'm 36. >> You're 36. Okay. And how long have you been a dominatrix? >> I would say for about three and a half, four years.

Andrew Wilson>> Okay. Let's say that you're uh 26. >> You're 26 years old and you're a dominatrix. >> Okay. >> Would you take on a client who is 50? >> Yes. >> What gives you the right to consent to

Andrew Wilsonthat? >> Um I would say my profession and my education. >> Okay. So you >> if we're assuming that I have the same amount of education as >> you have the right to consent to that

Megan Loftessrelationship, why wouldn't another 26-year-old >> I never said that people aren't able to consent to age gap relationships. I'm just saying that I find them to be inappropriate for the older person to enter.

Andrew Wilson>> But this is my whole point right now. Then if there's a 21-year-old dominatrix who's a friend of yours, are there any? >> Yeah. >> Okay. and they have a 45-year-old client

Andrew Wilsonwho wants to be on the other end of that relationship. Can that woman consent to him? >> Yes. >> Okay. What makes that consent fine, but

Megan Loftessher consent to date him not fine? Because when we're coming into a romantic relationship, it has a lot more emotional connections and a lot and a

Megan Loftessand it has a longer uh hopefully a long-term relationship versus maybe a and it's not it's not professional, right? So like if I'm a professional 21-year-old and I have a 45-year-old.

Mary Jane>> So now you're smartive, >> right? So now you're smart enough at 21 to make a determination about professional >> following guidelines that is that are professional comparison between a relationship like a romantic

Andrew Wilsonrelationship and a >> but the fact the fact that you think that it's that you're emotionally mature enough to make the decision to take on a 50-year-old client as a dominatrix at 21 years old. you're informed and have

Andrew Wilsonenough life experience and are smart enough to do that but are somehow not smart enough to date a man of the same age bracket. That to me is [ __ ] bizarre because what you're doing is banking doesn't mean that you're not banking on experience that man. It means

Mary Janethat you don't want to date that man that's a client. There's just it's it's that simple. They're a client and then if you take interest in an older man and you fall in love with an older man, >> you're the same 21 to that relationship relationship there

Andrew Wilsonis it's minimal. >> Yeah. But you're 21. >> You're not getting you're not reaching all of these. If you're 21 and you can accept to consent to a dominate, can you at 21 consent to sleep with a 50-year-old man? >> Yes,

Andrew Wilson>> you can. Yeah. >> Can you consent as a prostitute to have sex with him? Do you see a problem with that? >> That is a professional >> consent as a prostitute to have sex. Professional transaction. >> So if there So the woman can consent to

Andrew Wilsonsleep with him. The woman can consent to sleep with him for money, but the woman can't consent to date. >> She can consent. Of course she can't consent to dating him. >> But you would you be against that same

Andrew Wilsonwoman who you would say should not date this man at that age bracket sleeping with him for money? >> I like age gap relationships but I see the but I see all of the implications

Andrew Wilsonwith them. >> I'm not saying I fully agree with me. We >> Well then back back here then >> at 21 years old should a 21-year-old prostitute accept a 50-year-old John? if if it's that that's their profession.

Andrew WilsonYes. And I do want to add, >> of course, so they're so they're experienced enough to do that but not date the same 50-y old way this doesn't take much. >> Well, the thing is that's interesting is

Andrew Wilsonlike when we're we're talking about this dynamic, we're not talking about the action itself of doing this. We're talking about whether or not this woman is informed enough as an adult to make

Andrew Wilsonthe decision in the first place to do this. And my argument is if she's not experienced enough to do this, right? Or or if she is experienced enough to do this, then she should be experienced enough to date whoever the [ __ ] she

Andrew Wilsonwants. >> You're old enough to Yeah, exactly. That's my whole point. So then you interjected on this, not me to towards you. You >> interjected. I see the implications. >> Yeah, exactly. She was saying they're

Megan Loftesstoo young and not educated enough to consent to an older man coming on to them or not. And >> whole life with them. >> Yeah. The reason people have always

Megan Loftessolder men have always dated younger women and to this day is still true is that like 30 statistically 36 is the right age for a man to start getting married because they're making they're starting to make more money and like

Megan Loftessreal more money than they've made before and they're also like consistent and have the experience and are smart and strong and that's like their peak to start making. But yes, they worked

Megan Loftessreally hard to be 36 and have all this stuff and now they want what they want and they're able to take care of a woman who can be young and h be fertile and have these children for them because

Megan Loftessthey've worked really hard to get these things. And as a woman, I'm impressed by a man that has both those things, money and experience. And then I also think

Megan Loftesslike if a man is if you're consent if if you you know consenting

Megan Loftess>> just a second >> what about guys with vasectomies >> what about >> yeah I mean okay >> okay I get that but I'm just saying for traditionally what people want and why they're doing what they're doing to get those that money I think now what I'm

Megan Loftesstrying to bring it back to women is women who don't have education and don't have resources to go and educate themselves. They do exist. Their majority of the world is mostly poor.

Megan LoftessOkay. And uneducated. Do you think they don't deserve to have a nice life with a man that takes care of them so that they don't have to double down and work hard or expose themselves to >> end up being prostitutes?

Brian Atlas>> Should they shouldn't they be allowed to have the choice of a good man that wants to take care of them? >> Hold on really quick here. So, uh, just really quick, let me get a a check from the whole panel here. Uh, who's against

Diana Sixtoage gap relationships? Show of hands. Who's against age gap relationships? Just >> I'm the only one. >> Okay. And then we're going to >> It depends on like the length of the

Brian Atlas>> gas. Uh, let's say 30-year-old dating a 20-year-old. >> That's fine. >> Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Um, you have a sex slave. Is that correct? Yes. What's the age of your sex

Megan Loftessslave? I'd say he's like three or four years younger than me.

Anya (Ana Lacy)>> Okay. >> Um question. So you're basically saying that the problem with um age gap relationships, one of them is emotional clarity and emotional maturity, right? Or like emotional,

Anya (Ana Lacy)>> you know, clarity, right? Okay. So you guys believe in postnut syndrome, right? >> Yeah. >> Post what is that? >> Post uh postnoc clarity. Sorry. Postnut

Anya (Ana Lacy)syndrome. Postnoclarity. Yes. So I I would venture to say that a large portion of the men that are receiving services that are extreme extreme

Anya (Ana Lacy)services um from people like dominatrixes and etc are usually experiencing a form of different chemicals in their brains and different

Anya (Ana Lacy)in their brain and different things that are causing emotional disclarity. What would you say that in like what would be the opposite of clarity? >> Confusion. >> Sure. Sure. emotional confusion where it's like they're not thinking 1000%

Anya (Ana Lacy)clearly. So, how are we not conflating the two where it's like, okay, we if this one is abusing the emotional clarity of one person, how is this one not abusing the emotional clarity of the other? Well, they made the decisions to do those like crazy things before they

Marswere feeling all those things. That was all negotiated way before the scene or built up to that even if they were like, "This is my goal to get my my nut." >> Yeah, that's their goal. So, like they haven't had that nut from that thing

Anya (Ana Lacy)yet. The power of the male brain with the nut is absolutely insane. And like just the thought of something happening a week, two week, 3 weeks out will absolutely cloud a man's judgment. Just because they know that they're going to

Marsget this specific satisfaction down the road. >> I think that has more to do. So the thing with kink too and especially like even getting your balls kicked doesn't necessarily have to be inherently

Marssexual. So this doesn't need to relate. >> I've had a client that loved getting his balls. is not in. >> So this has most of them don't orgasm

Brian Atlasduring our sessions. In fact, it's very >> Wait, absent orgasm or absent climax, can people uh receive sexual stimulation or absent climax? >> Like of course they can stimulate

Brian Atlasstimulation, >> but your argument is if they don't orgasm, airgo, they >> No, that's not my argument. I'm just saying I'm saying that kink is not inherently sexual and how is it literally the words that came out of >> because you can have a kink scene without

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. It's just >> the words that came out of both of your mouths is when I do this particular kink the men don't orgasm therefore it's not sexual gratification. So >> I'm What do you mean? I'm sorry. I'm

Marsconfused. I'm just saying it has nothing to do with I'm confused with the postnut clarity. I'm I'm just confused. Also the idea is just this postnut clarity thing. >> I kind all have to do with their nut.

Andrew Wilsonreduce it super quick. She's just saying that men who have not climaxed have different hormones raging in their brain which can cause them to make decisions

Andrew Wilsonthey would not make if it was the case that those same hormones are not raging in their b brain after sex. >> Yeah. So climax and then make the decision. I'm so confused. >> Well, no. So she's just saying how's it not taking advantage of them if it's the

Andrew Wilsoncase they may make different decisions if they didn't have those chemicals raging? Like shouldn't they have to jerk off or something first before they agree to the contract? Before they agree with the contract. >> They usually do. They're usually messaging with us while we go over.

Mars>> I'm not saying it's a good argument. I'm just association. They're usually messaging with us talking to us. I'm just saying generally they are [ __ ] jerking out. It's not Look at that. I have a TTS coming through

SPEAKER_08>> relationship. >> Thomas donated $200. Question for the table. Should a 40-year-old be allowed to purchase 18year-olds of content? If yes, why

Marscan't they be in a relationship? >> Yes, they should. >> That's their choice as long as they're providing table question. >> Watching online content has nothing to

Marsdo with building a life with someone. >> It's huge difference. >> What if you don't want to build a life? You just want to date them for fun. >> Is it still implicating yourself? she's still putting these two lives together.

Brian AtlasAnd >> for the woman who's actually against the age gap relationships for you, uh, what would you prefer to see for an 18-year-old woman for her to in her

Brian Atlassexual empowerment to be a sex worker and the men who are procuring her services say they are in their 30s or

Brian Atlas40s or 50s or for her to be in a loving monogous relationship with a man who's uh 10 or 15 years older than her? Which which of the two would you prefer to see

Megan Loftessor is less predatory? >> I think that the sex worker would be in a less predatory situation, but I don't necessarily believe that all 18-year-olds should be sex workers, right? That's not what I'm asking. I

Andrew Wilsonknow, but that that question is kind of unfair to my ideology and like what I believe. >> Okay. Well, let me let me rephrase it a different way. Let's say that you had a best friend, okay, that you grew up

Andrew Wilsonwith, and she hits 18 and she's told you your whole life all she wants to do is be a stay-at-home mom. That's it. She wants to start having kids. The second she can, she's done with high school. That's her [ __ ] dream, man.

Andrew Wilson>> Okay? >> You live in a small town, okay? And she's like, she's coming to you for advice and she sits down with you and she's like, "Look, I've looked around and all the guys who are around my same age, they're all [ __ ] [ __ ] boys.

Andrew WilsonThey're just out there. They're just out there having sex with everyone. They don't want to settle down, right? What a bunch of [ __ ] They don't got They don't have any jobs really. And they

Andrew Wilsonhave no real prospects. But Chuck, Chuck over there is 31 and he's handsome and he wants a wife and he wants to give me my babies and he's going to take care of

Andrew Wilsonme forever, right? What do you think? What would you advise her to do? Would you hang on? Would you advise her to a [ __ ] your dream, hook up with the [ __ ] boys?

Andrew WilsonRight. Or would you advise her, you know what, you should probably marry Chuck if that's what your dream is? >> I wouldn't advise her to play with the [ __ ] boys. I don't think that's going to bring her any kind of joy or happiness.

Megan Loftess>> Um, but I wouldn't be encouraging her to get married right away either. >> No, but that's what she wants. That's her dream. That's all she's >> I would advi, if she was my friend, I would advise her like date this man for at least a couple years before you get

Andrew Wilsonengaged. >> So, there therefore date older man, much older man. So therefore, age gap go. >> But again, for me, >> so hang on. So you would advise her to date the much older man. Yeah.

Megan Loftess>> Yes. >> Okay. But I again back to my like the original reason I am against age gap relationships isn't necessarily in the power laying the the choice and the power of the younger person. I believe

Andrew Wilsonit's the responsibility of the older person >> to not date somebody inappropriately younger than >> Yeah. But hang on. Do you do you see the problem though? If if you're giving her the advice to date him, right, then

Andrew Wilsonyou're basically seeding to the fact that the reason she wants to is because he's more powerful, more wise, has more money, is more established, is all of those things that she's looking for in order to have a family at that young of

Andrew Wilsonan age. So, if you're advising her to do that, you're seeding that she needs to be in a dynamic where the more powerful guy has all the leverage in order to achieve what she wants. >> You gave me two choices. I if I actually

Megan Loftesshad a choice in the matter, I would advise her to just wait. I would say wait. I would say >> so wait. So crush your dreams. You're going to crush your best friend's dreams. Not all men are what you described as well. Dating is

Andrew Wilson>> just in her local area. They are >> Oh, that's But that's not like true to real life. >> No. Yeah, that's real true to real life. >> There's not one >> in the local area. Let's say the local

Marsarea. It's like population 6,000 men and my more mature kind ones were the ones that ended up being closer to >> Were you in a massive city? >> I probably >> define massive

Andrew Wilson>> big urban a big spraw sprawling urban population >> somewhere. >> Yeah, I live in San Diego. >> Okay. Huge massive [ __ ] city San Diego. So thing is is like if you're

Andrew Wilsontalking about population 7,000 >> your town and not just settle but >> true but perhaps you have other responsibilities in your town. Perhaps mom is sick or perhaps you don't want to move away from your family. Perhaps you love the small town life and just want

Andrew Wilsonto have some babies, right? >> Yeah. Isn't she a loser for wanting those? >> Well, is she some kind of piece of [ __ ] for wanting that? >> Of course not. And if she marries this guy and starts having the babies, what

Megan Loftessthe [ __ ] did she do wrong? I think she's at a higher risk of being taken advantage of or manipulated or abused. That is my main argument with the age gap relationship. >> This to me feels backwards because it would seem to me that if she was out

Andrew Wilsonpartying with the [ __ ] boys, her chances of like getting essayed her chances of getting >> I'm not arguing for that either. I'm not arguing for her to go [ __ ] the [ __ ] boys. >> But here's the thing. if she's dating people around her own age and they're

Andrew Wilson[ __ ] boys because most people most men are saying that are you saying right now that most men in their 18 to 20s are not like playing the field a bit? >> Yeah, sure. They're playing the field but I'm not going to categorize 18 to 25

Brian Atlasyear olds. It's [ __ ] boys cuz there's plenty of people that age. >> I do have to move it on the field. That's the point. Um, guys, really quick, I uh we're going to do a like a not an intermission, but uh I

Brian Atlasordered pizza, so I'm going to give pizza to the guests. And uh what I'm going to do though for this is we're going to do lower the TTS, so you guys while everybody's eating. Uh you know,

Brian Atlasyou guys can send in some roasts if you want. If you want to roast the TTS has been temporarily lowered, it's going to go back up after the pizza break. I also want to just, you know, let allow people to recharge a little bit, have a bit of food, get some food in them. Uh, so

Brian Atlaswe're going to give them pizza. Just uh, who wants some pizza? >> Do you want Do you want pizza, Miss Leave? Miss, who is leaving the table? Is it now or do you want pizza? >> Yes, please. Pizza. Yes. >> I don't want pizza right now. Is it now? >> There might be some later. She wants

Brian Atlassome. >> I'm okay at the moment. >> Three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. Well, sorry. No, Romy. My bad. Uh, wait. So, that was nine. Was that nine? I believe that was nine. Okay. So, we'll

Brian Atlasget the pizza going here, guys. So, get in TTS. Um, >> I'll be right back. Andrew, if you want to take it away for for a little moment while >> Wait, can I respond to a comment that popped up on the TV? >> No. >> No. Okay.

Megan Loftess>> Okay. >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> Okay. So, um, my only other thing to you is, um, about the age gap is if men were

Megan Loftessonly attracted to older, financially stable, educated women how many people would be on this earth. And then second of all, who would buy your Only Fans if that was their requirement for attraction?

Megan Loftess>> Okay, again, I'm not advocating for men to like marry older women or something like that. It's again, my main gripe with age gap relationships is when an

Megan Loftessolder person, regardless of their gender, dates somebody, you know, 15 years plus younger than them. That's my that's my like gripe with it because

Megan Loftessthere is a natural power imbalance and that and when you get into like a marriage um there can be a lot of abuse both mentally, emotionally, physically. I am

Andrew Wilsonon a lot of sub I'm on I've been on Reddit for like over 15. >> Yeah, that's your first problem. >> No, but Reddit has a lot of different subreddits, right? >> Oh god. >> Yeah. And they're mostly full of [ __ ] crazy lunatics who make [ __ ] up. Don't

Megan Loftessgo outside. >> No, there's actually a lot of a varied amount of people. There's red pill people, there's liberal people, there's >> there's like nobody >> and there's people making [ __ ] up all the time. >> Okay. And a lot of those and a lot of the madeup stories get called out in the

Megan Loftesscomments cuz you can kind of there's tells that you can find when there's madeup stories. >> I think I we would all like love your point more if your point also included. You're like, you're like Redditor 2384 who's like, "Hey,

Megan Loftess>> I'm speaking on everyone." >> Like Redditor 1846 who's like, "Hey, age gap relationships are bad." >> She's 21 and she's a sex worker. She could consent to having a 50-year-old,

Megan Loftess>> but we're not talking about a romantic relationship relationship with romantic relationship. They're still being chivalous to you. You're they're still

Megan Loftessbeing men. You're still you're exposing your body to them. You are romantic into a No, you are put I'm not saying romantic. I know your sex work isn't romantic, dude. What I'm trying to say

Megan Loftessis you are regardless still putting yourself into a vulnerable position in front of these older men. It doesn't matter that you're a sex worker. It doesn't make you smarter. It didn't

Megan Loftessbuild your brain. It didn't turn you 25. That man is still taking advantage of you in under these guidelines of age. Nuh-uh. There's special sex worker pixie dust that they sprinkle on a 22year-old.

MarsHere's some sex worker pixie dust. >> The attraction and the the the complication of that relationship is going from this zero. There's like so little complication in a in a

Marsprofessional interaction like that, which in some cases is zero interaction cuz they're just buying a video online. Affecting you other than your wallet. >> That's the point that you're missing.

Andrew WilsonBeing in a real relationship affects you every missing it. Here, I'll show you. >> Well, her argument is at 22, if you're a

Andrew Wilsonprostitute, there's not Hang on. There's not sex worker pixie dust that's just sprinkled on you that suddenly makes you super competent in even having chosen to be a sex worker to begin with. How can

Andrew Wilsonyou be competent enough to choose what man's penis gets to enter you for money, but you're not competent to jing on, but you're not competent enough to choose which one can take you out to [ __ ] dinner? That's insane to me. That's

Marsliterally taking out to dinner. It's forming a whole relationship. >> It's crazy to trust you met over a man that you could be in an age relationship. >> Like clients, >> we don't trust them. We don't trust

Marsthem. We don't trust them and we get you guys. We build trust. >> Okay. So, what does a relationship does that >> that's building a relationship? >> I built trust in a relationship that turned around and [ __ ] my life up. >> I also want to clarify like are we

Megan Loftessbecause when we're talking about the 21-year-old sex worker and the 45-year-old man, are we talking about a dom or we talking about an only talking about a guy who check money to sleep with her? >> Can I finish my sentence? Or are we

Megan Loftesstalking about a professional um >> a hooker a prostitute? Those are all very different things. Let's just say a hooker. >> Okay. So, the hooker is having what? One sexual experience with this 45-year-old

Megan Loftessman and then he leaves. >> Oh, no. No. She has routine sexual experiences with cuz he really likes >> Well, he was talking about a regular client. >> A random man that you should not trust. >> That's spending at least what two maybe two hours max with her. Two to three

Marshours a week. >> Provider. You are in control of that scenario with that older man. You are the ones in control. So, that control imbalance gets completely swapped. But you're looking at it backwards. So

Andrew Wilsonagain, let me give you the argument. The argument is not whether or not this 45year-old, you're seeing him less than if you were dating him. The argument is how are you at 21 or 22? How do I how do

Andrew WilsonI assume that you have the capacity to let a 45year-old man come and give you hundreds of dollars to [ __ ] you, but I don't think you have the capacity to choose to date him? That is

Megan Loftessmindbogglingly [ __ ] crazy. capacity to choose to date him. Again, I'm going to repeat myself for the fifth time. It is in the responsibility of the older person, regardless of their gender,

Megan Loftess>> to not date somebody inappropriately, like younger than them. You keep putting the power back and the choice back into the younger person, but I don't think that it's up to the younger person to be like, "Oh, am I immature enough to do >> is there anything wrong with that

Mars45year-old man [ __ ] that 22-year-old?" >> That's a professional. >> Even if it wasn't professional, professionally or even if it's not professionally. Is there anything wrong with it? There might be some [ __ ] wrong with it. There's any emotional connection.

Mars>> There might be some [ __ ] wrong with it. Yeah, we're not disputing that. >> What is it? >> She may not be h at that professional level to be making that choice. But >> so we're back to magical hooker pixie dust.

Mars>> She's there. She's there. We just keep on going back to magical hooker and that might implicate her and that might cause some [ __ ] to go down. But that's also life and she will learn from that situation. I think you can have boundaries in your sex work.

Megan Loftess>> An age gap relationship. >> Yeah. And again, there's nothing >> they can be respected. I didn't >> But you also have boundaries in relationships and people respect that.

Andrew Wilson>> I can at least accept that when you say when you caveat it and say there could be something wrong with it. Sure. I'm always willing to take the caveat that some age gap relationships are going to

Andrew Wilsonbe bad. I just want that caveat to extend to all relationships. >> It does. >> Yeah. Exactly. So, there's nothing inherently about the age gap that's bad. That's the point. >> I wasn't against the age gap.

Mars>> I know. Which is why I wasn't arguing with you. There are certain things. >> You kept jumping in to argue with me. >> No, because there are certain things that I that I do agree with her point. I'm just not anti-age gap, >> right? >> Like as a whole

Mars>> for those reasons, which makes sense. >> I mean, not exactly. But I just think that we have a free choice and whether or not it ends up panning out well for

Andrew Wilsonus is another story. >> Agreed. >> I agree with that. >> Cool. >> [ __ ] yeah. >> There was never never any disagreement on that. >> The disagreement was only on this side.

Megan Loftess>> I do also want to add that as a um a femdom at a if you're a 21-year-old femdom, >> it's not like you just decide one day, I'm a pro now. I'm going to have all these sessions. No, it's something that

Megan Loftessyou do have to educate yourself on. >> You do have to have some experience otherwise you are potentially putting someone in danger. >> Okay. But isn't it isn't it the case

Andrew Wilsonthat that would be the same thing with dating >> that you're going to need experience and experience over time is going to lead you to making better choices. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, >> which is exactly why I'm against age gap

Andrew Wilsonrelationships because of the experience. >> Yeah. thing is is like a 30-year-old man can have as little dating experience as a 22-y old woman. >> True. >> So, you know, like

Andrew Wilson>> to me it's so silly because you're not actually saying there's a problem with the age gap. You just look at other other contributing factors which could be present in any relationship and then pointing to it as though in an age gap

Andrew Wilsonthat's assured and that it's not. >> It is. What thing is assured in an age gap no matter what that would not be Hang on. Hang on. Stop. Stop. >> What would be assured in an age gap no

Andrew Wilsonmatter what >> that would not be assured by people uh who you know are are the same exact age in fact who are dating? What would be assured? >> Wait, I'm sorry. What would be a thing

Andrew Wilsonwhere this person's 15 years older, >> so it's 100% certain that it will be this way that will not be present in a same age relationship? >> Probably income.

Megan Loftess>> Not pro, not probably. >> Emotional maturity. Income and emotional maturity. >> Neither of those things are assured in an age gap relationship, are they? >> You naturally have more negative and

Andrew Wilsonpositive life experiences as an older person that you learn from. But that doesn't mean you're more experienced. >> And so this is the problem, right? It's like you cannot assure me that in an age gap relationship those factors will not

Andrew Wilsonbe there any more than you can assure me they will be there in a same age relationship. So it's always pointing to >> if these factors are there it's bad. I would just argue back sure >> but if they're there for same age it's also bad.

SPEAKER_08>> Right. >> Sure it's but it's worse in an age. >> All right let's uh maybe involve some other people here. And only one chat came through. So >> Crusader Joe donated $100. >> So we're back to 200. >> Want to have their cake and eat it too.

SPEAKER_08Freedom to sell sex/vote/ eterc, but force men away from younger women unrulined by sex work and feminism. >> Thank you, Crusaders. >> They're just eating their own.

Brian Atlas>> I I appreciate it. Based >> uh based raw diet girl helped out with the >> Chloe. Chloe chimped out or sorry, roach

Brian Atlas[ __ ] roached out. So, um, we have based raw diet girl helping out. All right. Uh, thank you just a guy. Appreciate it for that. Uh, here we have some super chats. I'm going to pull up.

Kayla (Passes)Uh, who wants to, you know what, Kayla Void, let me have you read, uh, the read for us. >> Okay. Um, the word gender comes from the Latin to determine my by type,

Kayla (Passes)specifically those that can give birth and those that can't. The word woman is simply a what does that say? >> Hypenmin. >> Hypenm for an adult female. It has

Brian Atlasnothing to do with identity. >> All right. Uh, part RSD. I very much appreciate your super chat there. Thank you. Let me have you read this one, too. >> Okay. Um, I am 35 years old and I match

Kayla (Passes)with the girl on Tinder that is 21 and has three and has a three-year-old kid. So, I shouldn't date this woman because of this 14-year g age gap. She can raise a child but forming a

Kayla (Passes)relationship that would be good for it is bad. Big fan Andrew and love you Anya. Is that how you say? >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Uh all right. Thank you no life for the that. All right. And we do have I'll let this one come through as the final one. >> Courtney's husband donated $100. >> Who's Courtney?

Megan Loftess>> Shout out to my beautiful wife. Notice the quiet and respectful one is the only happily married woman at the table. >> My girl, >> you're so funny.

Brian Atlas>> All right, thank you for that uh message. Appreciate it. Guys, we're bumping up the T TTS back to 200. If any trickle in within the next two or three minutes, uh we will get it. But TTS has been bumped back up to 200. Uh can you

Brian Atlasread uh who Let's have you read this one. >> Miss TP. >> Oh, she's not at the table. She's been on her phone for the past 30 minutes. >> Mhm. >> What's up? >> What's up, guys?

Diana Sixto>> Uh, you get to read this one. >> Miss TPUSA, even though altogether you're too good to be at the table. Um, you kept saying Andrew is coming from a religious

Diana Sixtostandpoint. Why don't you? Is it because you're proud of your clean divorce? Did Charlie fire you? No. So, uh, Charlie did not fire me. um he unfortunately

Diana Sixtopassed away before I left the organization to focus on messaging to Latino conservatives because I speak Spanish and so it was an area

Diana Sixto>> I really wanted to focus my efforts on. >> So that's why I left. Um, but >> uh, and I don't argue from a religious standpoint because there are people that

Diana Sixtoare listening that aren't religious. And I'm trying to make my point using logic and you can't do that if you know you are coming from a religious perspective and the other person isn't. And no, I

Diana Sixtodon't believe I'm too good to be here. Uh, I am very happy to be here and to have the opportunity to be here with the rest of the girls. And I do hope that I get invited back like promised. So, um, yeah, I'm excited for that and I hope

Brian Atlas>> we're down. >> Cheers. >> Uh, we're down to have you back. >> I'll give you props for that because I've been a little sassy tonight. So, good for you. >> Good for you. >> Yeah. >> Uh, some people can't handle it. All

Brian Atlasright. So, uh, no, but I think, >> uh, you know, all frustrations, albeit minor, aside, I think you and Andrew would actually have a really interesting >> I think so. >> A really interesting debate. We did we

Diana Sixtodon't disagree on everything. You know, I stayed pretty >> quiet on this last bit because, you know, I I don't disagree. I think age gap relationships are fine for the most part unless they're too wide. But,

Diana Sixto>> um, so, so yeah, and I, you know, I'm here too because I think the timing lined up so great. I was uh in California these last two days for for work. We had a an investor summit these

Brian Atlaslast two days and I'm like, >> "Oh my god, who the hell?" >> Whoa. Nathan. Nathan, why did you press that? Nathan, she's in the middle of this really important disclosure to us. She was here in California. Nathan,

Diana Sixto>> I love the state. >> My producer producers >> um love the state. It's beautiful. I think it's the most geographically blessed state in in the country outside of >> outside of uh Hawaii. Hawaii's pretty good.

Brian Atlas>> Hawaii is pretty good. And then out of that, maybe South Florida, too, has similar >> true. Uh we have a TTS coming through. Oh, no. that. Sorry, that's not a TTS. Below the threshold, disregard that. Uh, thank you though, Paul, for your message. Josh, thank you for your merch

Brian Atlaspurchase. Appreciate it. Thank you, Josh. Uh, here here's what we're going to do. Quick question. You I heard you say you uh you do outreach to uh like Latino voters. Is that correct? Yes. Are

Diana Sixtoyou Were you born in the USA? >> I was born in the US. My parents came from Cuba. My dad was a political prisoner. That's why he was able to legally apply for a visa >> to come to this country. and he has

Brian Atlasnever been back since cuz he considers himself a political refugee. So, >> do you still do you feel like you have any roots to Cuba or not really aside from like the culture heritage but

Diana Sixto>> Well, I grew up in a city called Halia um which is Hawaii or Oh, no. In Florida, Florida. >> Yes. Which is inside of Miami County and it's the city with the highest amount of

Diana SixtoCubans outside of Cuba anywhere. So, I basically grew up in Cuba with freedom and have always lived in Miami County and um pretty proud of it. Love it. It's my my hometown. I wouldn't leave, but okay.

Brian Atlas>> This is a good spot to visit. Yeah. >> Well, I don't know if if this following question would apply to you, but this is a question I've posed to other panels. Is anybody here was anybody here not born in the USA? >> Okay. Where were you born? >> Uh I'm from Canada.

Brian Atlas>> Can a little closer to >> I'm from Canada. >> Oh, can But you're Canadian. You're visiting here. Okay. This question would not apply to you then. Um, anybody uh parents their parents were uh immigrated here, born in another country? Okay.

Megan LoftessCuba for you. What about you? >> Barus. >> Barus. >> Lebanon. >> Lebanon. Okay. Do you feel roots to lean or not really? >> Yes, I do. Only because I've been there multiple times throughout my childhood

Brian Atlasand adulthood. >> Okay. Uh so question and then uh I don't know if you have any affinity towards Israel because you are Jewish. Is that correct? >> Um I am pro Israel. >> Okay. Into the mic please. >> I am pro Israel. Yes.

Brian Atlas>> Uh so this is >> and I'll be there in a few weeks actually. >> Okay. This is a hypothetical question I like to pose somewhat uh related to this topic. Hold on. Let me pull up the precise wording here because I don't

Brian Atlaswant to mess it up. Okay. So in a morally neutral and this is going to be directed just to I think two or three of you. In a morally neutral blame-free hypothetical conflict between the US and

Brian Atlasyour uh the country of your parents origin or perhaps to a country in which you have some degree of affinity to where neither side is right or wrong to which country is your allegiance. So in

Brian Atlasyour case, if the United States were to go to war with Israel under the hypothetical scenario that I described, would you feel allegiance to uh Israel

Brian Atlasor to the United States? >> It depends on the reason for the war. >> Well, so in Yeah. So it's a morally neutral, blamefree hypothetical conflict as in the hypothetical.

Mars>> Okay. If if it was completely morally neutral, I would stand with the United States.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, I see. Uh and then your Lebanon. Uh same question. United States and Lebanon are in a morally neutral, blamefree, hypothetical conflict. To which country is your allegiance?

Brian Atlas>> I would stay with the United States. >> Okay. And then I guess Bellarus for you? >> United States. >> United. Okay. Just curious. Just curious there. Uh, this is below the threshold. Oh, I'll let it come through because >> 699 donated $69.

SPEAKER_08>> I accidentally let it. >> Please describe the dating scene in NM since you're repping the Z symbol on your arm. Thank you. >> It's

Mary Jane>> um most of the people that I know in New Mexico um usually date from middle school to pretty much death. My grandparents have been together since

Brian Atlasmiddle school. A lot of my friends got together in middle school that I see getting married now and um they stick with each other. >> Okay. Uh and then Justin, I do see this and I I don't know if you recall since I

Brian Atlaswas late on your previous TTS. Uh I'll treat this as a as a read. Uh oh, hold on. Let me pull it back up. There should always be a power imbalance in a healthy traditional relationship. The woman

Brian Atlassubmitting to the man as the leader regardless of any gap in in ages. from based Justin. >> Okay, >> I would disagree with that.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, okay. Well, uh I'm gonna try to uh get some other people involved here, but there's quite a few notes. I'm going to try to blast through all of it

Brian Atlas>> uh here pretty quick. Uh although for you, I do want to wait, is it for you or is it for No, it's Mars. Uh your

Marspronouns are she, her, it on your Instagram. Uh, what what do you mean by it? >> I'm just It's kind of like a I'm kind of

Marsan it, you know? It's like I'm a weirdo. Like weird little thing, you know? It's like I >> I act a little uh

Marswilder than your average human. So, >> I don't know. I've always been not in just like a sexual way. Um, I've always been kind of a freak, you know? So it kind of falls under that category of

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