Andrew Wilson vs. 10 Feminists DEBATE! 3 RAGE QUITS?! SUPER FERAL CHAOS PANEL?! | Dating Talk 283

Date: 2026-02-23
Duration: 10h 01m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_02Mars(guest)
SPEAKER_03Sarah (Angelique)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Mia(guest)
SPEAKER_05Kayla (Passes)(guest)
SPEAKER_06Mary Jane(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Courtney (MS)(guest)
SPEAKER_10Diana Sixto(guest)
SPEAKER_11Ella(guest)
SPEAKER_12Megan Loftess(guest)
SPEAKER_13Anya (Ana Lacy)(guest)
SPEAKER_14Megan Loftess(guest)

Key Moments

00:00:33
IntroAll 14 guests introduced - most overbooked ever
00:10:22
Key MomentElla reveals she eats raw chicken and pork, believes in terrain theory
00:45:23
Key MomentAndrew Wilson and Diana Sixto begin marathon prenup/feminism debate
03:16:00
Key MomentAndrew presents force doctrine to the panel
03:28:40
ControversyAndrew gets Diana to accept she is a feminist by definition
04:58:57
Key MomentBrian reads Mars' full dominatrix service menu. Nuclear explosion sound effects.
09:53:03
QuoteElla: circumcision is genital mutilation that should never be done to babies

Topics Discussed

00:00:33
Guest Introductions

14 people - most overbooked episode ever. Includes Andrew Wilson, Mars (dominatrix), Diana Sixto, Ella (raw meat eater).

00:10:22
Ella's Raw Meat Diet

Eats raw chicken and pork. Believes in terrain theory. Parasites are beneficial.

00:45:23
Prenup Debate: Andrew vs Diana

Extended debate on prenups, women financial independence, marriage as institution.

01:42:23
Chivalry Debate

Brian argues sex workers don't deserve chivalry. Extended panel debate.

03:16:00
Andrew's Force Doctrine

Men monopolize force, women always appeal to men for rights. Feminism dismantling patriarchy is circular.

04:58:57
Mars Dominatrix Services

Brian reads Mars' full service menu including toilet play, CBT, financial domination.

09:53:03
Ella on Circumcision

Final hot take: circumcision is genital mutilation that should be illegal.

Transcript

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06:55:12
Brian Atlas>> Reset. >> Can we ballpark it? Can we say uh Wait, wait, wait. No, no, no, no, no. >> And you're going to answer the question, and I need to do your notes. Don't you want me to go over your comedian notes that you have here?
06:55:25
Brian Atlas>> They're not that good. >> I mean, they are pretty good. They are pretty good. Why don't you at least stay for the body count question? Um, >> what is the body count?
06:55:36
Brian Atlas>> Okay, you did say you don't do OF, but you date a lot. Lots of experience. >> Do you want to just yell it out? >> No.
06:55:51
Diana Sixto>> How's that a good point? That's not a good point. >> How would my boyfriend feel watching this about me talking about body count publicly? You're on a dating podcast. >> You go on. There's plenty of dating shows in history that have never talked about.
06:56:04
Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. I'm not giving you any push back on this. It's Brian's case that Brian Brian asked the body count thing. I don't give a [ __ ] what the body count is. I only give a [ __ ] if the idea is that somehow inappropriate to ask.
06:56:16
Ella>> That's in dating. That's the only thing I care about because that doesn't make any sense to me. >> Yeah. I mean, it makes sense to ask when in dating, but it obviously is something uncomfortable to share >> publicly. You know, that's something
06:56:29
Ellathat it opens you up to a lot of prejudice. You got to think about. >> So, if you're leaving, >> you can't linger. So, do you want to return? >> I can't. What?
06:56:40
Brian Atlas>> If somebody's going to leave the podcast, you don't get to hang out behind the scenes. >> Yeah, absolutely. I'm I'm so sorry. No, I want
06:56:52
Brian AtlasYeah. Yeah. >> Okay. Uh, so you forgot maybe is it 20 to 30? >> It's probably like a little bit more than that. >> What do you mean?
06:57:04
Brian Atlas>> Uh, uh, what what about what's going on here? What are you guys doing? >> Very squished over here. >> All right. Yeah. Um, c can we get
06:57:16
Megan Loftess>> body count? Five men, two women. >> I would rather not share on the podcast, but if I were asked on a date, um, probably like the second or third date,
06:57:28
Megan Loftessand if the other person on the date also shared their body count, then I would. >> Huh? Can I'm sorry. Could you repeat it? >> That's all right. Um, I was just saying I won't share on a podcast, but if I were on a date and I were asked, then I
06:57:40
Brian Atlaswould share on the date. If the other person, do you want to do a rant? the other person was also sharing. >> So, you will admit to doing uh like all kinds of degenerate sex acts. You're
06:57:52
Megan Loftessessentially a prostitute. >> I'm not a prostitute. I've never had sex for money. >> Do you engage in acts that sexually gratify men in person? >> No. All of my clients uh are welcome to touch themselves if they behave
06:58:05
Brian Atlasthemselves, but I do not touch their genitals for sure. >> That's still prostitution. I disagree, >> but I'm not gonna we're not going to have like a debate, a definitional debate. Okay. Body count, please.
06:58:16
Courtney (MS)>> Um, I've been married twice. Say at least two. Um, both my relationships have been long term. >> Uh, no, no, no. The when we have somebody
06:58:29
Courtney (MS)uh Okay. Uh, do you want a ballpark? Do you want to give a ballpark? I mean at I would say I guess two and a half cuz I had I mean I was a teenager and I fled around with the boy but
06:58:40
Ella>> your microphone down please. >> I'm sorry. >> Um >> okay you won't answer. What about you? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean I'm not going to answer too and respectfully we do talk about chivalry and chivalry again as you said
06:58:53
Ellait's coming from the medieval knights. coming from arterian legends and I just don't think the I don't know behavior among this otherwise has been necessarily very chivalous to the women who have come out here today.
06:59:06
Ella>> What are you talking about? How does that pertain to the question at >> I know they aren't chivalous. >> I know but it it's just obvious that a lot of women have been made uncomfortable. I mean two women have left the show early.
06:59:16
Brian Atlas>> It's because it's late. It has nothing to do with uh Yeah. But what is your actual objection to the question? Is that is it related to this? >> Yeah, I mean I just don't think it's
06:59:29
Brian Atlassomething >> publicly and it's >> Have you watched the podcast? >> Yes. Yeah, I have watched some things and I decided I didn't want to answer it before I came on. >> Okay. Well, that's fine. You don't have to answer it, but you are aware like I
06:59:41
Brian Atlasdon't see how you can raise this criticism if you're aware that is a question that is asked like you're not surprised that the question is being asked. No. And as far as chivalry, I'm not dating any of you. This is a dating
06:59:52
Brian Atlasdiscussion show. Body count is a component. It's something that men care about. It's something that women can care about or do care about. So, I don't see how this is like somehow uh like an
07:00:05
Brian Atlasinappropriate question to ask on an adversarial controversial known to be controversial dating podcast. I don't I don't see how this would establish uh a
07:00:15
Ellalacking of chivalry. No, not the question in particular, but just, >> you know, >> go ahead. Make your crit. Okay. Make your criticism. Go ahead.
07:00:27
Brian Atlas>> I mean, I just made it. I think that >> Well, I know your criticism is now going to extend beyond just the fact that I'm asking the body count question. >> Yeah. I I don't think that that's
07:00:35
Brian Atlasinherently. Do you want to give criticism as to what
07:00:44
Ella>> I guess I just didn't expect it to be as high stress of an environment. I mean this time you've been very exacerbated. She was over there like signing earlier and you kind like oh my god like stop
07:00:55
Brian Atlassign and all of that. It's just it's a >> yeah she's creating we if you've agreed to come on the podcast and the podcast has rules and we remind you of the ru r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r
07:01:06
Brian Atlasr r r r r r r r r r r r r rules repeatedly and you break the rules. That's going to result in frustration. Have you ever dated a guy and he continued to make the same mistake over and over and over and you got
07:01:19
Brian Atlasfrustrated? >> Yeah. And naturally, I mean earlier >> naturally. That's a perfect word to describe it. naturally. So, look, you guys have not been exactly uh this isn't
07:01:31
Brian Atlaseven about the body count thing. You guys have not been particularly uh following some of our rules. You've been kind of difficult. Some of you have been feral. There's been massive amounts of interrupting. There's been tons of
07:01:44
Brian Atlasbad faith conversation. >> You've been okay, by the way. She's been she's been fine, but now she's leving a criticism towards me about the uh
07:01:55
Brian Atlas>> and it's like if you poke somebody enough, they're going to get frustrated. And it's like I'm the one running the show. I'm trying to keep everything like uh moving along. So, I have a higher
07:02:07
Megan Loftessburden than every single one of you panelists here. >> There's been interruptions on both sides. Let's just like put that out there. >> Yes, I'm the host. I'm going to have to interrupt.
07:02:20
Megan Loftess>> Yeah, that's fine. For your hostal duties. Yes. But there has been some discussions where people have been been getting cut off, including myself, where I wasn't able to finish a sentence and then I had to defer to the person that was speaking. So, I'm just saying
07:02:33
Ella>> you've been okay too. >> And if I may, you know, earlier you had said that men they have easier jobs nowadays going out not working in the fields. Frankly, I'd rather be in a coal mine than do your job. I think it's
07:02:44
Elladifficult. So, you know, I I respect it for that and I just I just wanted to say it cuz that was how I was feeling. That was one of the rules that we read off at the beginning, too. Say how you feel. Don't hold back in your full totality.
07:02:56
Brian AtlasSo, >> okay. So, now it's just like a meta conversation, a crit meta criticism of the podcast.
07:03:06
Ella>> Yeah. I mean, I guess I I didn't come in necessarily with the impression that this was helping the lives of of young
07:03:16
Diana Sixtomen and of all people in general. Um, but have you felt different like at the beginning of the show or before the show till now and what you think it like
07:03:27
Ellarepresents and stands for? >> Yeah, I guess I mean it's it's just it's um it's a frustrating debate. I think it's frustrating for pretty much everybody involved, >> but people keep coming back and
07:03:41
Marsstreaming every Sunday. So, >> I came on because I was like, "This is clickbait vibes." >> I think >> How is it clickbait? >> I felt the same. I mean, like the clip like No, like No, not in a I'm not saying in a bad way. I'm saying in a good way.
07:03:53
Diana Sixto>> This is a This is a I mean, the the structure of the show, which I understand it's a very long show, 7 hours, and then you can get 30 second content clips that can be posted on
07:04:03
Diana Sixtosocial media um for like a week. And so that's the nature of the podcast. Uh which I totally understand. And I knew personally and maybe you didn't know or you weren't aware that this was going to
07:04:15
Diana Sixtoturn into this kind of a situation, but I knew that uh being conservative but not conservative to the degree that they would like to label it is going to put me on the opposing side. So at least I
07:04:27
Diana Sixtowas prepared for that. And I think it showed. I mean I kind of proved myself right. you know, at first when you guys thought I was going to be 100% on whatever it is that you guys said, I was even on the other side of the table.
07:04:40
Diana Sixto>> And when uh, you know, I had a different opinion, now I'm on the opposing side of the table. I think tone matters. Maybe that's what you're talking about. The kind of tone that you use when you're talking to people, debating with people,
07:04:52
Diana Sixtoit can be kind of condescending. You know, somebody makes a mistake, maybe a nicer tone or more gentlemanly tone would kind of prove that. doesn't work.
07:05:02
Brian AtlasThat's totally this feminine >> view like this empathy [ __ ] That's how Oh my god. >> Uhhuh. >> Was Nathan very polite when he told you
07:05:14
Brian Atlasguys not to interrupt one person speaking at a time when he was going over all the pre-show instructions? >> Yes. He's been the most polite. And then how have I done to you? >> Did we pro did we >> I was just sitting here. Did we provide
07:05:25
Brian Atlasyou even before the show in our pre-show notes sort of uh you know uh no interrupting one person speaking at a time. So it's like when somebody repeatedly repeatedly
07:05:40
Brian Atlascontinues to break our rules, makes mistakes and just isn't and they're being bad faith and they're they're
07:05:52
Brian Atlasin your case this entire night. I don't think you understand how frustrating it is to attempt to have a logical conversation with somebody and they straw man your positions all night. They misrepresent your positions all night.
07:06:04
Brian AtlasIt's like that Jordan Peterson interview with Kathy Newman. So, what you're saying is no, that's not what happened. And it's incredibly frustrating to be in that kind of conversation where somebody
07:06:15
Brian Atlascan't be charitable to your views. They don't understand. They're not uh understanding what you're saying. And so, yes, that's going to be frustrating. And in addition to that, there's a bunch
07:06:26
Brian Atlasof [ __ ] behind the scenes. [ __ ] uh this isn't anything to do with Nathan. Uh my primary producer Mary >> called out on a big show. It's Nathan's
07:06:38
Brian Atlasfirst day doing a and this isn't anything. This isn't Nathan's fault, but that that puts higher burden on me to, >> you know, do certain things. I don't have my entire team here. That's going
07:06:49
Brian Atlasto have an impact. >> And then in addition to that, people are interrupting. People are not deferring to me when I'm trying to move things along. and constantly being interrupted. Yeah, that's going to eventually get
07:07:00
Brian Atlasthat's going to get on your nerves. >> It's like literally remember Nate at the very beginning of the show, the very top of the show, >> Nathan gave his instructions in our pre-show instructions. We say, "Don't
07:07:12
Brian Atlasinterrupt. It's really important to speak close to the mic." And then I reiterated it for at least a third time right before the show. Speak close to the microphone. literally the first words out of a pen or the first action
07:07:25
Brian Atlasout of a penalist's mouth. You you were not speaking close to the microphone and that just sets the that sets the stage for just >> you get very like and I get the
07:07:36
Diana Sixtofrustration. There's just people that I guess react differently to the frustration. For example, you know, no relationship is perfect. uh you know, boyfriend, girlfriend. But I think uh if
07:07:48
Diana SixtoI'm extremely frustrated with my boyfriend, the way that I tell him things to correct his behavior or he tells me something to correct something that I've done, if he told me things in
07:08:00
Diana Sixtoa certain tone, a certain way, I am more receptive to it versus being, you know, more pushed back. And I would you consider yourself a little bit more, you know, confrontational in your way, your
07:08:12
Diana Sixtotone of talking to people in comparison to most. >> Yes, I do. >> Okay. See, that's just a personality trait that may go well or may not go
07:08:23
Diana Sixtowell with people with certain people. If you know, it was me. That kind of tone doesn't work for a relationship. So, you and I, >> this isn't a relationship. This is podcast. But uh but
07:08:35
Brian Atlas>> where people can get See, I can't even Some of the [ __ ] people in the chat >> are uh [ __ ] not on my side on this. Uh mods, you can just [ __ ] ban them.
07:08:46
Brian AtlasI don't care. The reality is uh what what's that saying? Uh >> you're damned if you're do, damned if you're don't. Basically, I get
07:08:56
Brian Atlascriticism. Brian, you're not being assert assertive enough with the guests. The guests are overtalking. You're just Guys, doing a [ __ ] panel show is [ __ ] difficult. Everybody wants to
07:09:09
Brian Atlastalk. Most of these people have never been on a [ __ ] podcast. They don't know good mic microphone discipline. They don't know um like they they don't understand the interrupting. They don't understand any
07:09:21
Brian Atlasof this stuff. And it's like when you have to repeat yourself 10, 20, 30 times. Yeah. You're going to get frustrated and I don't know what to say. Like yes, my tone is going to be stern. Like I'm not pretty. Please, could you
07:09:33
Brian Atlasdo the thing that I asked you to do for the [ __ ] 10th time? No, it's like knock it [ __ ] be an adult. Follow our rules. Knock it the [ __ ] off. That's it. >> I agree with, you know, telling people
07:09:45
Diana Sixtoto knock things off if they don't do it 10 times. I think using curse words at women is not very chivalous and really knocks out points when it comes to getting you. >> Okay. Well, I think you being bad faith
07:09:57
Diana Sixtothe entire night and straw man. Not >> I have not. I don't know what a straw man is. You straw man the entire night. You're a bad faith the entire night. >> I'm here to say exactly what I believe in, which is I think that, you know, I
07:10:08
Diana Sixtobelieve in traditional relationships and marriage. I think that women and nowadays we have a different role for women and I think you can have a career and also be traditional. That's all that
07:10:19
Diana SixtoI've I mean, if people are watching now, they can run it back and see nothing is extremist or out of the ordinary. Um, and I think that just has not been very
07:10:30
Diana Sixtowell received. But again, this is a that kind of a podcast and you believe traditional has to be trad, you know, not traditional, not
07:10:42
Diana Sixtoconservative. And I'm just here because I I want to mend relationships between men and women. In fact, I want to give men tips on how to land a woman and get
07:10:53
Diana Sixtomarried and that kind of stuff. I've had really good uh success with advising people on it. And I guess men are watching the show this late at night because they want to know what women
07:11:05
Diana Sixtothink, right? How women think so that they can get into a relationship with them. That's what we're here to do. Do you want do you want more marriages? Do you want more relationships to
07:11:17
Diana Sixtohappen? Or are you trying to divide the sexes with your show? Or do you think that your show helps unite the sexes or divide the sexes? >> I want people to have great relationships.
07:11:29
Diana Sixto>> Do you think your show helps do that? >> Uh, I do. >> Okay. I I disagree with that. That's why I'm here because >> You disagree? >> Yes. But I like to go into the wolves
07:11:41
Brian Atlasden. I don't like to preach to the choir. >> Uh, how does it what evidence do you have that it is divisive? And do you have any uh anything that would back up
07:11:52
Brian Atlasthis assertion? >> Yes. I think that women are very often, you know, devalued on the show. I think that the show >> What does it Oh my god, you're all over the [ __ ] place. Your claim is, is it broadly like society divisive to the
07:12:05
Diana Sixtoviewers or to the audience? >> Sure. So, what does that have to do? >> What does that have to do with the women at the table? >> One example. Um, I am very impressed at the show's ability to gather this kind
07:12:18
Diana Sixtoof an audience. Um, there's a lot of women here that do sex work, right? And they are a very small percentage of the population. So, they're not a representation, an accurate
07:12:28
Brian Atlasrepresentation at all of most women. Most women are not relevant. Most women are not going to be like a lawyer. You know, when the most women are not, you know, how lawyers just like what are the
07:12:38
Diana Sixtoother thing irrelevant? Most women are not sexually pleased to us. Most women >> hold on. That's not true. >> Yeah. What do you consider promiscuity? >> Not just my opinion.
07:12:49
Andrew Wilson>> Well, hang on. Hang on. Let her define it. What is What is promiscuity? How many how many bodies is promiscuous? >> I I I can't put a number on it. But >> so then how can you say most women aren't that if you can't put a number on it? >> I think the point is >> I will say that I need you to answer the
07:13:03
Diana Sixtoquestion. >> What was your question? >> What when you say promiscuous, what does that mean? um having sex outside of solid relationships. I think that that is being more sexually liberated or
07:13:16
Diana Sixtopromiscuous. Yes. >> Okay. Now, I'm not asking about more. I'm asking what is promiscuous. >> Um anything that you know one night stands or you know unprotected sex or
07:13:30
Diana Sixtoyou know just sex. >> So as long as a woman's having protected sex, she's not promiscuous. >> Saying additional examples to that. I think the ideal should be sex in a committed relationship where you first
07:13:40
Andrew Wilsonwhere you first met the person. So >> if a woman's had sex with if a woman's had sex with 20 men, do you consider that promiscu promiscuous in and of itself? >> Uh if I ask that question to an
07:13:52
Andrew Wilson80-year-old woman and she tells me 20, I'd probably be like probably not, grandma. You had your >> Okay. So 20 20 bodies is not promiscuous. Okay. So 20 20 bodies is not necessarily promiscuous.
07:14:04
Andrew Wilson>> No. Would you say 30 30 bodies. >> I It depends. I again don't want to be the person to judge that, but my original question was >> Well, hang on, hang on. I The original question doesn't make sense unless we
07:14:16
Andrew Wilsonhave an answer to this question because we don't know what you mean by promiscuous >> or promiscuous. >> Is it promiscuous? >> I personally put that more on the promiscuous side. Yes. >> At at about 30. >> Yeah, sure.
07:14:29
Anya (Ana Lacy)>> Okay. But not 20. >> I If it's grandma who lived her life, >> she's 50. She's 50. Is a 50-year-old with 20 bodies promiscuous? >> How about a How about a How about >> She just won't take a stand on anything or put labels on anything. There's no point in our
07:14:42
Diana Sixto>> Wait, how about a 20-year-old? How about a 20-year-old uh who has 20 bodies? >> I think that they made very difficult bad choices. Are they promiscuous? Are they promiscuous?
07:14:53
Diana Sixto>> How about 10 bodies? >> Um at 20 years old, you know, >> are they promiscuous? >> I I think so. personally from my for my standards. >> Five bodies. >> I'm going to head out. I'm sorry I do have to drive two hours, but I really
07:15:07
Andrew Wilsonenjoyed being on the show. >> Do you want to stay for your notes? >> My what? >> Your notes? >> You need to do your notes. I'm going to try to wrap this soon. >> Yeah. >> Um, but my original point is >> is that is Well, I answer the question.
07:15:18
Diana SixtoHang on. Is five per is five at 20 >> promiscuous? This this show doesn't help uh bridge the gender war. >> I think it does by telling men that most women are sex workers. Hang on. >> Well, again with the [ __ ] straw man, bro.
07:15:32
Brian Atlas>> Doesn't do that. >> Or that this is a >> That's such a Oh my god. >> Or that this is a valid representation of most women. Have >> When have I If anybody If any Let's make a bet. Repeat what you just said. This
07:15:44
Brian Atlasshow says that most women are sex workers. That's No. No. Don't [ __ ] lie. Repeat what you said. >> And that's See, see the tone. Don't [ __ ] >> Yeah, because you're lying about me. You're literally slandering my [ __ ] show. You're lying.
07:15:57
Brian Atlas>> I'm not slandering the show. Men have issues with lies. I know maybe you don't, but men Okay, so repeat what you said. >> I said that this >> and don't change it.
07:16:06
Brian Atlas>> This show has mostly what a great >> That's not what you're such a [ __ ] pathological liar. Repeat what you said. >> This show gathers a surprisingly a large
07:16:18
Diana Sixtoamount of sex workers. >> That's not what you said. You're a liar. That's not what you said. You're a liar. Is that not what I originally said and opened this entire conversation with? >> Two points. Great straw man. You're a
07:16:29
Brian Atlasliar. Let me clarify. >> She's not a liar. That is what she said. >> That's not what she said. You're a [ __ ] liar and a gas lighter. >> I'm not gas. >> You're literally gaslighting. I'll tell you. Okay. No, but let's do a
07:16:44
Diana SixtoYou pay me $100,000. >> I don't have $100,000. But I know that I open Do >> you have 10 Do you have $10,000? opened up this argument by saying that a great majority of women in the show that's not
07:16:55
Brian Atlaswhat you said representative and it's not a majority. Hold on two points. So >> first we'll get into the straw men. You were saying that I think that a majority
07:17:07
Andrew Wilsonof women is are sex workers. Is that what she said? >> If I said that if I said hang on that I misspoke. What you said is you're teaching you're teaching men
07:17:18
Andrew Wilson>> that the majority of men or women are sex workers. No, you said sex workers. >> Okay, so I misspoke there. Promiscuous sexually promiscuous. And so to that point, per when we say sexually
07:17:30
Diana Sixtopromiscuous, >> what does promiscuous mean to you? >> For me, for my standards, I think it's having sex outside of
07:17:40
Diana Sixto>> committed, stable relationships. And >> so if you've had five if you've had 10 stable >> and another additional qualifier to that is that the point of those relationships
07:17:51
Andrew Wilsonis is marriage, not just dating to date. >> Okay. So you've had 10 you let's say you're you're you're 26. You've had >> 10 committed relationships. They all failed pretty quickly. >> That's >> is that promiscuous?
07:18:05
Diana Sixto>> That's >> is that promiscuous? >> I think that's bad decision. >> But is it promiscuous though? And and yes, I would qualify it as that. Okay. Personally, >> seven at 26, >> I don't know. At 26, it depends how
07:18:18
Andrew Wilsonearly on >> the whole. So, here's the problem. What you're doing is you're utilizing >> Do you think it's high 26? Yeah. Yes, of course. What you're doing is you're utilizing you're utilizing somebody with
07:18:32
Andrew Wilsonthe Discord. >> You're utilizing equivification. So when you say that you're teaching women that or teaching men that women are promiscuous, right? And then you say most women are not promiscuous. >> Yeah.
07:18:43
Andrew Wilson>> You fail to actually identify to us what what the numbers are for promiscuity. So how could we even how could we even check the claim? Like if I were to say
07:18:53
Andrew Wilsonmost women at 25 Hang on, stop. If most women have a body a body count at 25 of above X, would that mean that most women are promiscuous? you won't actually commit to that position.
07:19:05
Diana Sixto>> Uh I have my personal opinions on it, but you can Google, I guess based on surveys, because there's no way to find this out for sure, >> but you can Google based on surveys how
07:19:15
Diana Sixtomany average amount of sexual partners many women have had. And you can look that up and then I am curious to know if you believe that number is high, the average amount per men, per per male,
07:19:27
Diana Sixtoper you know, female. M >> and then we can have an honest conversation because that number is actually not very high. >> What is it? >> I don't know. I think it's about three four per >> Are you trying to say that modern society is not three or four?
07:19:40
Brian Atlas>> That's wild. >> This girl lives in Miami, too. Those Miami girls are That's crazy. >> That is wild. >> She lives in Florida. Bro, women will have a body count of 10. >> Just because he lives somewhere does not make you >> Women will have a body count of 10 by
07:19:53
Brian Atlasthe time they graduate high school. Not all women. Not all women, but like a a a girl, a liberal girl, >> most women don't. >> A liberal Hold on. In 2026, a liberal
07:20:04
Diana Sixtogirl who goes to like uh let's say a medium-sized college >> by the time she's done graduated, not all women, to be clear, >> most women is my opinion. Why don't you Google what's based on surveys what's
07:20:17
Brian Atlasthe average body count for >> women? Surveys are not helpful at all on this because people >> because you can't have a factual >> 10 and 26 >> between 4 to 10 at 26. That's what uh that's what he said.
07:20:30
Brian Atlas>> That would be promiscuity >> in your opinion. >> Have you ever had a one night stand? >> Of course, you wouldn't admit it on the show. >> No, but I have not. So if you think >> Have you ever How about this? Have you ever slept with a man or done anything
07:20:41
Brian Atlassexual with a man uh within 24 hours of meeting him? >> No. >> Doubtful. In any case, >> okay, so again, my personal character just like me. Yeah. Just like you lied and slandered
07:20:53
Diana Sixtoabout me. So >> what what part of that? What did I say? >> Yeah. So here's the slander. You think that the >> Why don't you name it? Because you just told me that I'm lying about what I said and I'm not.
07:21:03
Brian Atlas>> I'm about to. So yeah, the slander here is you're basically misrepresenting the uh the guest selection that we have on the show. You claim that the majority of the guests we've had on the show are sex
07:21:14
Brian Atlasworkers. This is just factually completely untrue. the minority of our guests are sex workers. And we've taken statistics on this. It's 20. It's uh 15 to 20% of all our total guests are sex
07:21:27
Brian Atlasworkers. Now, you might look around and you're like, well, you go 1 2 3 4 5 here. >> We've had 2,000 guests on the show. Have you done a uh have you done recordkeeping? Have you looked back at all our shows and
07:21:39
Brian Atlas>> made a determination? Just because you see Hold on. If it if this panel was all black people, would that mean we've only brought black people on the show? >> No, absolutely not. >> Right. So, logically, just because uh we have sex worker, sex worker, sex worker,
07:21:53
Brian Atlassex worker, sex worker. >> That's a majority already. >> That would plus the ones that left. >> So, so because they're >> What was the percentage of this panel, Brian? >> The women who hold on the women who um
07:22:04
Brian Atlaswho left were not sex workers. So, actually we have a majority now, but the majority prior, >> one of them was >> who there was >> uh the bikini girl. >> Bikini >> Kayla,
07:22:16
Megan Loftess>> she sells photos of herself in bikinis on a sex worker website. >> That's not a sex work. >> I think it was a lot of It's like a familyfriendly >> I think website. >> Okay, maybe it's a gray area for her, but the other girl who left not a sex
07:22:30
Brian Atlasworker. >> Uh in any case, I don't see how that would establish. So here is this the logic. Well, the majority of the women tonight are sex workers. Airgo, the
07:22:41
Diana Sixtomajority of all the guests you've ever had on the show must be sex workers. >> The from what I've seen in the past, yes, I have not followed the whatever podcast from its initial stages.
07:22:52
Diana Sixto>> We keep statistics. So maybe at the initial stages it was a lot less you know uh I guess the percentage of women that work in the sex industry it was a lot less but as the podcast went on then maybe >> hang tight for the rent we need to do
07:23:06
Brian Atlasyour notes >> then maybe you realized you probably get a lot more views by having women have a >> it's a total straw man it's again a
07:23:15
Brian Atlastotal straw man it's a total fabrication on on social media and they're >> it's so impossible possible to argue with somebody like this. You've seen clips. Our most I mean, this is the
07:23:27
Brian Atlasmetric I would use. Our most viral moments were not with women who were sex workers. Some of our best discussions were not necessarily with women who were sex workers. So again, it's a total misrepresentation. It's a total straw
07:23:40
Brian Atlasman. And I'm providing the facts to you directly as the person who oversees this show, who does the guest booking, who does the guest procurement. >> It's 15 to 20%. >> 15 to 20%. That is correct.
07:23:52
Diana Sixto>> Which is still much higher than the less than 1% of women that actually Bailey. Thank you for shifting the goalpost. Modern Bailey. >> No, that's a big percentage difference. >> Yes, it is higher than the population. Although technically if you if you're
07:24:05
Diana Sixtolooking at like the between the ages of 18 to 25, something like 10% of >> my original argument is that this stop interrupting this podcast misrepresents the actual amount of women that do have these. I see for as far as
07:24:18
Andrew Wilsonrepresentation goes. You mean? >> Yeah. Well, here's the thing. You're exploring modern dating right >> now. Did you see what you did there? You said that the podcast does not
07:24:29
Andrew Wilsonadequately represent the amount of total women who are sex workers. But what is the amount of sex workers in the age demographic that Brian has on? And is that over represented? Because that
07:24:42
Andrew Wilsonwould be the real question, wouldn't it? >> The age for Yeah. Hang on. Stop. I'll explain. Okay. So, let's assume that the average age of the woman who comes on here is between 18 and 22. Let's just assume that. Do you think that the odds
07:24:54
Andrew Wilsonof them being a sex worker greatly decrease when you're not actually modeling that against the entire population of women, but only to 18 and 22 year olds? >> Um, I think most answer that question. >> I I don't know those exactly. So, how
07:25:07
Diana Sixtocould you say it's an over representation? You don't even know because most women that are Yeah. Most of the women that do work in the sex industry are also in the younger for sure.
07:25:18
Andrew Wilson>> So how do you know what can you look up real quick Brian? What is the actual percentage of women in that age bracket who are sex workers much higher?
07:25:29
Diana Sixto>> I I know it off hand. So it's 18 to 24. It's 10% 10% >> of women 18 to 35 or to what age? 18 to 24 who are sex. >> 18% of women are sex workers. I see.
07:25:43
Brian Atlas>> Is that a statistic? >> No, she said 10%. >> Say it again. >> I said 18. Okay. Women between the ages of 18 to 24, 10% of them have only fans or are sex workers.
07:25:54
Diana Sixto>> That sounds like a very over that sounds like a wrong statistic and an overexaggeration. >> But I I would I don't have a laptop in front of me or my phone to verify those claims. So
07:26:06
Andrew Wilson>> we she has to question all of our stats, but we have to unquestion unquestioningly accept every single [ __ ] that she can can you at least admit that within that age group it's going to be much higher than the sample
07:26:19
Andrew Wilsonagainst the entire population. >> Attractive uh very attractive. >> How would you even know if it's an oversampling in comparison to the age group which is most commonly represented on whatever?
07:26:30
Brian Atlas>> Nathan, uh can you do just ask chat GPT? Uh, here's the question you're going to ask. Percent of women 18 to 24 who do only fans >> or sex work in general. You can make it broader. >> Yeah. Well, we'll just keep it to only
07:26:44
Brian Atlasfans, >> which would probably lower the percentage. My AI overview here says recent data estimates that approximately 1.2 to 1.4 million women aged 18 to 24
07:26:54
Brian Atlasin the US are active creators on Only Fans. This represents roughly 10 to 14% of all women in that specific age group. Nathan, can you pull it up? >> One platform is I would love to see that. >> Uh, some social posts and community
07:27:06
Brian Atlasestimates suggest that around 1.2 to 1.4 million American women aged 18 to 24 have Only Fans accounts. If you assume there are about 10 to 10.7 million US women in that age group, that would
07:27:16
SPEAKER_01imply roughly around 10% to 14% of only I'm I'm confused. 10 to 14% and isn't it only about 15%. >> 15 15 to 20, but it's it's closer to 15.
07:27:28
Andrew Wilson>> Wow, that sounds like it's completely a representation then, doesn't it? I >> Boy, you [ __ ] that one up. >> No, I thought >> Boy, you [ __ ] that one up. >> I thought the number I will admit, I thought the number >> and by the way, it's actually even
07:27:39
Andrew Wilsonbetter because not all of the OF girls who come on are between the 18 to 26 percentile. So, because of that, it actually would lower the amount of Only
07:27:48
Andrew WilsonFans girls in that in that in that uh percentile. So it it actually is very possible that he roughly has exactly the representation of only fans girls on versus not only fans girls for the age
07:28:02
Diana Sixtodemographic. >> Not if you count the age bracket of women that you have here. I'm 32, she's 36, you said. So why don't you increase the age bracket and check the >> Are either of you sex workers? >> No.
07:28:13
Andrew Wilson>> Okay. So then it seems like you're representing it just and it is. It's 0%. Look, >> it's 0% right now.
07:28:24
Diana Sixto>> So, so again, out of the women here, we go up to the age of 36. >> So, why don't you put that same So, why don't you put that same age bracket right now on your on your laptop, the youngest girl.
07:28:36
Brian Atlas>> But now we're getting Now, now we're getting into the weeds. You're shifting you're shifting the goalpost. No, I'm not. >> Yes, you are. You're aggressive. Hold on. Hold on. I'm almost done. I'm almost done. So,
07:28:47
Brian Atlas>> man, let me see. This is what what's frustrating. Like, let me if I'm going to engage, can you guys just let me speak and you don't have to chatter cuz
07:28:56
Brian Atlasnow we're wasting 5 10 seconds. Okay. Your original claim, which was false, was that I'm suggesting that the majority of women are sex workers or
07:29:08
Diana Sixtothat the majority of the guests that we have on this show are sex workers. It's not the majority. Definitely. >> You said majority. >> If I did, then I misspoke. But it is definitely misspoke. You're definitely an over representation of sex workers
07:29:22
Diana Sixtonaturally. >> Okay. But so even if it's 5% over, it's like >> so who gives a [ __ ] >> if it's >> who gives a [ __ ] >> 5% would be very low. I agree. 5% would be very low. So let's put the bracket then between 8%.
07:29:36
Diana Sixto>> I'm not interested in exploring the data further. You were just incorrect. And actually looking up the number, I think it'd be closer to maybe 5% or 2% of the population. And that's a small
07:29:46
Diana Sixtopercentage of 80y olds. Why do you Yeah. Why do you keep on not 80year-olds, but you have on average up to 40 maybe on this podcast. So that would greatly.
07:29:57
Brian Atlas>> I'm not I'm not attempting to I'm not attempting to p paint women in this light as if they're all sex workers. I can sit here right now. Also, if you're
07:30:07
Brian Atlasjust curious as to my actual position, the majority of women are not sex workers. I don't know the exact numbers total. If we were to look at a different
07:30:16
Brian Atlasage range, 18 to 34, 40, whatever, it's the it's a small minority of women who are sex workers. >> That's my position. So, I'm not putting
07:30:28
Brian Atlasout there. By the way, guys, like 70% of women are degenerate only fans girls. That's not what I say. So you're contending with a position that you said that isn't even forwarded by me.
07:30:39
Diana Sixto>> I've never said that you said that. I say that this show over represents the amount of women in the industry and you do not represent women as
07:30:50
Megan Loftesssex. In my research of your podcast and watching different videos and clips, >> I personally just noticed that there were a lot of sex workers and I thought that maybe you cast sex workers
07:31:01
Andrew Wilsonpreferably because it is, you know, entertaining or >> because it's a huge sampling of the population who are in dating age of 18 to 26. Yep.
07:31:12
Andrew Wilson>> It's a massive massive massive percentage of the population of women who are in the dating age of 18 to 26. >> So, not only is it not a massive over
07:31:23
Andrew Wilsonrepresentation, which we just literally established 5 seconds ago because we know the percentage of total sex workers who've been on, we could even reduce that by 18 to 26 and it would still be less. >> If somebody on the street asked me, hey,
07:31:36
Diana Sixtocan you describe the whatever podcast? What kind of people do they bring on? you know, whatever their backgrounds. >> Uh, do you think that it'd be wrong and people would just, you know, say that no, they don't bring
07:31:47
Andrew Wilson>> that's a facious argument. You're making an appeal to majority. You're making an appeal to majority. >> What's disingenuous is making an appeal to majority. >> Wait, I got the perfect thing. Did you vote for Trump? >> I did.
07:31:59
Brian Atlas>> Are you okay? Are you a Trump supporter? >> Yes, I am. >> Okay. So, if I were to pull the majority of people in California as to uh do you think that Trump is a rapist? Uh they'd
07:32:11
Brian Atlasprobably say yes. Is it true that he is a rapist? >> Nope. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, just because like if I were to poll the majority of Californians, uh,
07:32:21
Brian Atlashey, do you think um like ICE is there's like massive amounts of like uh misconduct amongst ICE uh uh law enforcement officers and they're like, "Yeah, I think that there's a lot of uh
07:32:35
Diana Sixtothere there's a lot." Would that actually prove that it's true or mean it's true? >> No, but you're making my my argument for me. the fact that just because a majority of people say that they believe
07:32:46
Diana SixtoTrump is a rapist, it doesn't make it true. Just like if you have a larger representation of women with a sex background, it doesn't mean that most women are promiscuous as a whole. >> That would be your argument.
07:33:00
Brian Atlas>> Wait, >> that would be Ryan's argument. your argument that you forwarded was, well, do you think if I ask people on the street u you know what they think the whatever podcast is about and if it has like a whole bunch of Only Fans girls on
07:33:11
Brian Atlasit and and it's like the majority >> okay so regardless of if if h >> even if they did
07:33:23
Brian Atlas>> does it mean it's true? >> Yeah, that's the question. So, if people out there on the street say yes, uh, I think that a majority of the women who go on the Whatever podcast are only fans girls, does it mean it's true? >> You have the numbers. I don't. So, you're telling me? >> Answer the question.
07:33:37
Diana Sixto>> You're telling me it's not true? >> Answer the question. >> You're telling me it's not true? Because based on the entirety of the show's history, that has not been the case. And you have the stats. So, you could be right. From the show, >> not just I could be right, I am right.
07:33:50
Diana Sixto>> Okay. From the shows that most people have seen recently, I'd say that the the brand of this podcast is having women with a background. >> That's not the brand. The majority
07:34:03
Brian Atlasof our guests are sex workers. The majority of our guests are not sex workers. >> Okay. Well, I guess that's a PR issue. Might want to work on that. >> Period.
07:34:14
Mars>> Moving on. >> Moving on. Please for the love of God. Mhm. >> But so okay, you do acknowledge that even if that's the perception,
07:34:27
Andrew Wilsonperception doesn't mean truth. >> Yep. Absolutely. You have the numbers. I don't. And you're saying, >> so why would you have forwarded the argument of Well, what do you I don't Well, actually, I don't understand. You
07:34:38
Andrew WilsonYou can't possibly believe this because now the logical entailment of your argument is tens of thousands of people are going to think you're a hooker. No, I think >> then why are you on a podcast where only where everybody thinks only hookers go
07:34:51
Andrew Wilsonon the podcast? >> Mostly that's that's the PR I'm telling you guys. >> What do you mean image? >> Why would you go on a podcast that you think has the PR that only hookers go on? If you didn't want people to think
07:35:04
Andrew Wilsonyou were a [ __ ] hooker. >> Um because you sporadically do have women that aren't hookers. You've had you've had really weird. >> You've had Wait, so the reputation? >> The reputation. Only hookers go on. I
07:35:16
Andrew Wilsonbetter go on that podcast. >> You've had You've had Llaya Rose on brilliant. Look at the big brain on Sam over here. >> All right. All right. >> You've had Laya Rose on. Definitely not a hooker. You've had my previous
07:35:29
Andrew Wilsonemployee. >> Now you're making Brian's argument. >> Yeah. Tell us all about how the PR here is actually not that it's full of hookers. >> For 12 years, but she doesn't know. >> Hey, we're not done with your notes. All right. Here. >> Do you want Can we move on?
07:35:42
Diana Sixto>> I'm going to your notes. >> We have to be gone. I'll do I'll help fix your PR issue if you pay me for it. >> Oh, the PR issue that we can't have or you wouldn't be here cuz you would think people would think you were a hooker. >> I like going into the Wolves Duns if you can't tell. >> You want people to think you're a hooker
07:35:56
Brian Atlasor >> No, I think they'll figure out that I'm not >> Okay, let me go to Courtney really quick. Um, >> you're on the libertarian spectrum. You don't always agree with the host delivery. All right, I'm not going to argue without you on that. When it comes
07:36:07
Brian Atlasto certain topics like the hotness scale settings, you said that you're a solid 6.5 with makeup on. You're an 8.3 if you're drunk. >> No, I didn't say that. Did I? >> Uh, if you're drunk, >> you did right. >> Maybe I didn't.
07:36:21
Brian Atlas>> [ __ ] it. >> Um, okay. Uh, what's I'm sorry. What's your name again? >> Okay. Ivy. Uh, in your Instagram it writes, it says women in STEM.
07:36:32
Mary Jane>> Yeah. >> What is Are you a woman in STEM? >> Yes. Um, I haven't graduated yet. Uh, I'm majoring in computer science. Uh,
07:36:44
Mary Janeminoring in cyber security. So, I am learning how to hack currently. >> Um, I don't know everything yet. I mean, hack. >> Yeah, they're teaching us how to hack. I'm doing it a flex course. So,
07:36:56
Brian Atlas>> cyber security is necessary. >> Um, switches. >> Okay. Uh, you write yourself or you describe yourself as a sweet but dominant tatted porn star goddess.
07:37:07
Brian AtlasUh, I think this is on your O of Gooners are your favorite. Give >> Oh, no. That's on my Sex Panther. >> Oh, Sex Panther. You say give you every drop of your You say it. I'm not going to say that.
07:37:20
Mary Jane>> What does it say? >> Don't you know what's on your own? >> No, I do. But I give every bios like frequently. >> Don't make me say it. >> I don't have an agency. Every drop of your what? Come like something like
07:37:33
Brian Atlasthat. >> There's more. There's a beta >> beta [ __ ] >> How do you borrow? This girl has >> beta beta cooters. Beta beta. >> Give you you write give me every drop of
07:37:46
Brian Atlasyour beta. Come. >> Yeah, beta come. >> Okay. Um, you do girlfriend experience scam. Romance scam. >> You do home wrecking.
07:37:58
Mary Jane>> Um, I do the role play. Yeah. >> So, okay. What's CEI? um eating instructions. So like they'll eat it out of like a they'll eat they'll eat it out like out of their they'll squirt it in their mouth or like
07:38:12
Mary Jane>> who >> I eat it out of like my subs my clients >> men >> uh yeah usually they like ask for it and they'll like >> excuse me >> that's [ __ ] disgusting. >> Eat it out of a peanut butter jar or
07:38:25
Miasomething. I don't know. You like tell them where to do it and then they eat it off that object or whatever >> into a cup or on a plate it off and then you tell them. >> Yeah.
07:38:36
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. They tell you how to do it. >> I give uh I give uh sex the the female sex workers some flak. But I think I got to sometimes I think it's the men, you
07:38:47
Megan Loftessknow, the [ __ ] degenerates that I got to criticize them too, man. They're usually usually listed. >> We're just facilitating their the experience that they want to experience.
07:38:59
Mia>> I do say no to some >> you can tell they're a little bit ashamed after they ask for stuff like that. Sometimes >> you got to give them cool off sessions. >> All right. You said that uh you're you
07:39:12
Brian Atlastalked earlier about you were sugar mama to your last boyfriend for three years. You guys were monogamous then it went to an open relationship. So were you sleeping with other guys? I was. Yes. >> Okay. But he was sleeping with other girls, too. >> Yes.
07:39:25
Mary Jane>> Okay. He ended up being a huge cheater. Well, I mean, >> it's about transparency and he was hiding stuff from me and sleeping with people that like raw. And then he was sleeping. He slept with about like 10 girls behind my back before I found out.
07:39:39
Brian AtlasUm, >> so okay, your open relationship the the agreement was we disclose. >> Yeah. It was a conversation and then >> Well, it wouldn't be cheating. It Well, it wouldn't be cheating, but it would be
07:39:52
Mary Jane>> Yeah. >> a lack of disclosure because it's an open relationship. >> He could have got me sick. It's cheating. >> Well, it's not cheating, but it's wrong. I'll agree with you. >> He wouldn't get tested either. I love I have love for him still.
07:40:05
Brian Atlas>> Okay. I'm not going to argue with it with you too much, but I I wouldn't consider it cheating, but what he did is wrong. I think it's unethical. I say that. >> Yeah. >> Um, you went from dating men, living in trapous to riding on private jets.
07:40:17
Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> Uh, too much to type. Yeah. Um, you were introduced, wait, you've dated millionaires twice your age who you were introduced to by your sugar baby boyfriend and you at ended up dating him
07:40:28
Mary Janefor 2 years. You were very spoiled, but he was also very crazy. >> He was very crazy. He was fun. >> All right. >> In a in a fun way, you know, he wasn't too crazy, but he was like definitely like not >> Okay.
07:40:42
Brian Atlas>> I had to like >> kind of like um babysit him a little bit. Okay. Uh, Courtney, you said you don't agree with the host delivery when it comes to certain topics like the hotness
07:40:53
Brian Atlasscale rating. Uh, I did want to go back to that briefly here for the 9.9, the 10, the eight, the eight, the nine. >> Yes, please rate. >> Uh, can you guys tell me, uh, well, oh yeah, I was supposed to rate you guys. I
07:41:04
Brian Atlasguess I'll do that super quick. Um, uh, for you 9.9 I'm just going to focus on the 9.99, the 10, and then the nine over
07:41:12
Brian Atlasthere. So, oh, can we, uh, just get the camera angles on? Okay. Um, so, uh, can you tell me a woman who you think is a 9.99?
07:41:25
Brian Atlas>> Like young Megan Fox, young like a woman. >> Robbie. Margot Robbie. >> Margot Robbie is >> Demon Slayer donated $69 at Diversity Lovers. >> It's below the threshold. I don't know
07:41:37
Brian Atlaswhy it did the TTS. Uh, please tell me a woman who you think is uh a 10. Megan Fox is actually a really good example.
07:41:47
Brian Atlas>> Megan Fox. Okay. And then you're uh wait, hold on. >> Uh you're a nine. Can you tell me a woman who you think is a nine? >> Angelina Jolie. >> And you're a nine. >> Yes.
07:42:01
Brian Atlas>> Just like Angelina Jolie. >> I have symmetrical eyes. I have full lips. >> Can you look full? >> Can you look in that camera right there? Looks that camera. Look straight in that camera. >> Hello.
07:42:11
Brian Atlas>> Okay. Now, those of you watching, drag a window and put a Angelina Jolie's face like right next to her face. Now, can you um while looking into that camera,
07:42:22
Brian Atlascan you do me a favor? >> Can you turn your face that way? More, more, more, more. And then turn
07:42:30
Brian Atlasyour face the other way. Angelina Jolie caliber, everybody. Holy [ __ ] Um, okay. That's >> Thank you. Yeah, women are delusional.
07:42:42
Mary Jane>> Rate me a three already so I can go. >> Hold on. Hold your horses. >> Hold your horses. >> Are you going to rate us though? >> I will give you guys ratings. I'll wait
07:42:51
Ellauntil I'll wait until uh home girls back. Um >> if >> Yeah, >> I may say something. And part of the
07:43:03
Ellareason too I didn't want to rate on a scale is I don't know when you you were asking them who do you think is a 10? The first person that came to mind for me who is a 10 is my sister. I've always loved her
07:43:14
Ellaso much and looked up to her. And it's sad to see like a beautiful girl like this go and call herself a 4.5 when if any guy sees her on the street and wouldn't drop his jaw to the floor, he needs to get smacked or something
07:43:27
Brian Atlasbecause she's beautiful. >> I'm not pandering. >> She's pandering. >> I'm not pandering. >> Anna's Anna's pandering a little bit. not pandering >> regardless like when you're in love with someone like I've been in love with
07:43:38
Ellasomebody who when I first met him I wasn't as attracted to him but when we were in a relationship he was a perfect tent to me I loved everything about him >> but that's not even a dispute. Yeah,
07:43:49
Andrew Wilsonit's it's it's not a dispute so to say, but I think that >> beauty is >> is more important than what >> I believe that over time, of course, you can become more or less attracted to a person. Of course, that's the case.
07:44:03
Andrew WilsonYeah, >> nobody would dispute that that's the case. >> But we're the all the time that we're probably ever going to spend for the rest of our lives together is right this
07:44:13
Andrew Wilsonsecond. And so what you do is you're like, "Okay, that's 99.99999% of people you'll ever engage with in the rest of your existence." So because of that, we can make value judgments and
07:44:25
Andrew Wilsonassessments based on appearance and what we see and how we perceive the beauty standards that other people see each other as too. Nobody here is stupid.
07:44:35
Andrew WilsonKnow this for sure cuz I've now talked with all of you. So I know that you know what I'm saying is true. Mhm. >> that it is in fact the case that all of you can take a look at a chick and the
07:44:46
Andrew Wilsonsecond she's not in the room go, "Oh, that [ __ ] is nasty. That [ __ ] is nasty. Oh, that girl's hair is blah. Oh, her eyebrows. She should be doing
07:44:56
Andrew Wilsonsomething else with those. Did you see her makeup?" Don't [ __ ] [ __ ] They do it all the time. Women do it all the time. I'll tell you what. Let's see how many of you are honest. >> How many of you have ever criticized the
07:45:08
Andrew Wilsonappearance of a woman when she left the room?
07:45:15
Andrew WilsonBut I will also say, >> not you though. You've never done that. A woman has never left the room and you've criticized her. Not you. >> Uh, no. I've thought that maybe they could have dressed better or
07:45:28
Andrew Wilson>> I will I will add that if we're friends, I'll tell her to her face. I'll be like, "Hey, >> that's really weird. How can you like judge the and assess the beauty of like your friends and other women and stuff?" about assessing their beauty, but maybe
07:45:40
Diana Sixtolike her hair is messed up or she's got broccoli in her teeth. >> That's interesting. >> Something like that. >> Assumption that women are just [ __ ] and catty with with each other. >> I'm I'm going to tell you that >> horrible with each other.
07:45:53
Andrew Wilson>> Well, they are. But I'm going to tell you that here's what my actual assumption is. My actual assumption is that human beings criticize each other consistently and constantly. For men, there's a good reason for that. And for
07:46:03
Andrew Wilsonwomen, there's a good reason why both sexes do this. One reason that uh women like to play the compare and contrast game is because it's one of the ways
07:46:13
Andrew Wilsonthat they can enhance mating strategies for men. Uh one of the reasons that we do it is because it enhances cooperation and male male camaraderie. Men are [ __ ] awful to each other. We call
07:46:25
Andrew Wilsoneach other the fsler. We're horrible to each other. We laugh at each other when we fall down. You know, if I have a friend who's really hurt, the first thing I do is laugh and then we render aid. this and if you think I mean
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Andrew Wilson>> some women >> all of you know that what I'm saying is accurate. Okay, if you know if you have hung around men for any length of time >> all they do is give each other [ __ ] all day. Am I am I lying? >> I stepped out so I didn't premise of
07:46:51
Brian Atlasthis conversation. >> Sorry, not going to let you hijack this one. Um so uh gee, where where was I on this thing? I I do think it is. Actually, you know
07:47:01
Brian Atlaswhat? Here, let's do this. Uh rate me On a scale of 0 to 10 >> overall >> just just face looks >> just face or
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Mars>> just face. Yeah. >> Okay. With the beard a four.
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Megan Loftess>> So I'm assuming I'm curious. I'm assuming without the beard's lower, I would imagine. Uh what do you rate me? >> Seven. >> Okay. You're being too generous. Um, >> I think you have nice blue eyes and I I I tend to be more attracted to men that
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Brian Atlashave darker hair and I like facial hair. So, >> man, Angelina Jolie thinks you're a seven, >> but she's still she's still settling for me. I'm two points below her. So, >> well, she's Angelina Jolie. >> She She's a nine. >> Of course, she's going to settle for
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Brian Atlasyou. >> I'm just a seven in her eyes. >> You're out of your mind, bro. >> So, you know, it's um Yeah, she would she would be settling for me, though. Uh here, really quick. Um uh can we >> don't rate me? I don't want to get my
07:48:02
Brian Atlasfeelings hurt today. We'll wait until you guys can wait till you leave. So, >> really quick though, uh >> uh Nathan, just I want to pull up the Discord. Can you go into the uh looks tab on the Discord? Do you know how to
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Brian Atlasdo that? >> Oh, no. >> What's that? Uh the looks tab here. >> Yeah. And then click on the Scroll up a little bit. Scroll up. Scroll up. Uh
07:48:28
Brian Atlasclick on Wait, wait. Scroll down. Scroll down. Uh the first girl there next to Yep. Click that and then you're gonna use the mouse arrows. Oh, no, no, no. Uh mouse arrow. No, sorry. Uh hover with
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Brian Atlasthe cursor over the arrow. Yeah. Uh next, that's Evangelene. Uh I forgot her last name. This is Adriana Lima. >> Adriana Lima. Next, uh Jessica Beal.
07:48:51
Brian AtlasJessica Beiel. Uh Taylor Hill, I think is her name. Next, Jessica Alba. And then of course, Gorlock. So, all very attractive women. Those are eights and nines. Uh, you
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Brian Atlasknow, I want to say some of those women. Okay. Um, let's use Adriana Lima, though. That second girl that we saw. Um, what what do you rate her?
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Mars>> Um, I said perfection wasn't achievable. She's a 10. >> What do you rate her? >> Which woman? All of them are beautiful. >> The second girl, the one with the blue
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Brian Atlaseyes. >> What do you rate 10? Drop deadad's gorgeous. >> Okay. But you're just one point below Adriana. >> Yeah. >> Wait. Hey, can we get on the right angle, please? >> Did we miss
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Megan Loftess>> I I would say my flaws are like the little indent in my nose and maybe my nose is a little bit >> just I think we missed the angle. So, I think we're going to have to repeat it. Uh, so you're you're you're one point
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Brian Atlasbelow Adriana Lima. >> Yes, I believe so. >> I think I only have a couple of flaws on my face personally. >> All right. This is what uh men are dealing with in the uh dating dating
07:50:07
Brian Atlaslandscape. This is why it's so difficult to date because basically you have women who have an overinflated sense of their attractiveness and they basically look at men who are actually on their level and they completely zero them out. women
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Megan Loftesswill think that they're settling for a guy and uh but it's actually just that they're delusional. So, >> um I would like to add that I've dated men that I deem less attractive than I am.
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Brian Atlas>> That you deem but you deem Okay. Can I ask you a question? Uh maybe we should ask >> Angelina Jolie was married to Brad Pitt. >> Yeah. And she was also married to Billy Bob or dated Billy Bob.
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Megan Loftess>> He's an attractive. >> Yeah. My question though, he's somewhat attract. But >> Angelina Jolie dated down with Billy Bob Thornton. Fair enough. >> Also was with Brad Pitt.
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Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. >> And uh So would hang on. So you're not you're not settling for Brad Pitt. You're not settling that like that if you got an >> equal. It's an equal relationship >> with you.
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Megan Loftess>> Oh, for me? For me and Brad Pitt. No, I feel like he would be settling for me a little bit. How? What? >> Wait, wait, wait. Let me ask this. So, he was settling for Angelina. >> Let me let me ask this. Uh, tell me a
07:51:21
Brian Atlasguy who you think is a 9.99, a guy who you think is a 10, and a guy who you think is a nine.
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Mars>> Okay, I'll say [ __ ] he's short though. >> Um, >> got you can't use him. >> I don't know. >> He's also Jewish, I think. I'm always [ __ ] dating Shark Kings. I
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Marsgot to stop. Okay. >> Irrelevant. >> Sorry. Um, >> we'll say Robert Patson, >> the guy from Twilight >> when he washes his hair.
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Brian Atlas>> All right. What about you? >> Um, John Summit. >> Oh my god. >> Who the [ __ ] is that? >> Can you Google John Summit? Do a Google image search of John Summit, please. >> He has a good personality. Oh, and disco
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Andrew Wilsonlines. >> Uh, what about you? >> Can you repeat the question? >> Who's a guy who you think Who's a guy who you think is a nine? >> Oh, a celebrity. Um, >> that we could Google. >> George Clooney.
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Andrew Wilson>> No, no, no. A guy. A guy who you think is a nine? >> Yeah, I think. >> Yeah, she says George Clooney. >> Oh, George Clooney. Okay. >> Oh, no. No.
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Brian Atlas>> Would you have it? Go ahead. Pull it up. >> Uh, can you go to the >> He kind of looks like you. Yeah, that's fine. >> He does kind of look like you. >> All right. There you go. >> You're a 10. >> I'm a 10 in. All right. Well, you're
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Diana Sixtogoing to change that after I give the rating. >> You're a three.
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Brian Atlas>> Sorry. Uh, George Clooney. >> Mhm. >> Your looks equivalent. It can we say young George Clooney cuz he is a bit older. Can we say young? >> Sure. The age gap. >> He's very handsome. Can you throw the
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Megan Loftessage? >> And I don't even think that the age gap between George Clooney is that big. >> It's pretty big. Your looks, your league,
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Brian Atlas>> I think he's in his 60s. >> Your looks league is famous actor, heartthrob, sexiest man alive, George Clooney. Well, he was, I think, a
07:53:28
Brian Atlasmagazine many years ago voted him sexiest man alive. People magazine [ __ ] 98 or some [ __ ] That's your looks equivalent. >> Yeah.
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Brian Atlas>> I like I said, I think my only flaws are my the bags under my eyes and my home point. Home girl, whatever. Is her looks equivalent George Clooney? >> Yes or no? I just need a yes or no.
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Brian Atlas>> I won't be offended. But but look, >> is her looks equivalent George Clooney? >> The the >> You tell me. Wait. Wait. You tell me. >> Is her looks equivalent George Clooney?
07:54:02
Diana SixtoBe honest. Come on. I need I won't be offended. [ __ ] stick in the knife. [ __ ] turn that [ __ ] Go ahead. I know you want to. >> Because you said that this is why women this is why like all women are
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Diana Sixtodelusional in, you know, in giving themselves a rating and this is why men have it hard and that's not the case. This is just her opinion. If we rewind rewind back three minutes, that's what you said. See, this is why, you know,