Curfews For Men?! Can Women Be TOO Nice/Submissive?! She Dated NFL/NBA Players?! | Dating Talk #224
Date: 2025-01-29
Duration: 8h 22m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_01TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_02Shelby Clayton(guest)
SPEAKER_03Michaela Quan(guest)
SPEAKER_04Samson(guest)
SPEAKER_05Bella(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_08Myin(guest)
SPEAKER_09Brandon Clark(guest)
SPEAKER_11Ebony(guest)
SPEAKER_12Mecca(guest)
SPEAKER_13Dea(guest)
SPEAKER_14Ana(guest)
Key Moments
00:04:26
QuoteBella introduces herself as an OnlyFans creator who dropped out of college after 1.5 years.
“hi my name is Bella I do only fans um I just dropped out of college after doing it for one and a half years”
00:11:52
QuoteBrandon Clark announces he is a virgin unprompted during introduction.
“I am a virgin I might as well just get that out of the way right now”
00:12:42
QuoteAndrew Wilson introduces himself after shaving his beard — panel shocked by his new look.
“what happened hold on just cut cut the call Damen cut the call what did oh dude yeah my face is very cold he shaved he shaved his beard”
00:22:12
QuoteMyin reveals she was a flying trapeze artist and aerialist who worked for a circus for a decade and lived abroad.
“I was a flying chapes artist and an aerialist nice okay was he like a lion tamer no he was the general manager”
00:48:27
ControversyAndrew argues women who demand equality should not also demand chivalry (flowers, doors, etc.). Dea pushes back strongly. Extended debate about woodworking, sailboat skills, and toxic femininity.
“I still don't understand that I still haven't heard a compelling argument for the idea that for some reason you deserve equality and Status”
01:37:55
QuoteEbony claims women don't need men and women would do better if men disappeared overnight.
“I don't think that women like a lot of people think that women need men in like Society to maintain society and I don't think so I think women would be perfectly fine”
02:12:03
QuoteEbony admits she doesn't know what a "stud" is in construction context, saying it's a dog or a lesbian.
“what about a circular saw how does that work i've never seen one do you know what the stud is no”
02:23:52
QuoteEbony says she doesn't know who Nelson Mandela, Gandhi, or MLK are. Would put them all in cages.
“I don't know who that is... Nelson Mandela... I've heard that before but I don't know who that like what is he known for”
03:09:53
QuoteRatings round: Ebony=8, Michaela=10, Bella=10, Shelby=6, Ana=9, Myin=10, Mecca=10, Dea=8, Samson=6, Brandon=10 ("inbred 5 on camera but 9 in real life"), Brian=8, Andrew=10.
“going back to Michaela and then back I would say 10 10 okay six six all right wow nine all right 10 10 okay I would say seven but six all right I think I'm 10”
03:11:00
ControversyAndrew refuses to accept Dea's reasoning for why she can't rate him objectively. Dea eventually gives him a 5 (reduced to 4 for personality). Rachel Wilson messages from home backing Andrew.
“I'm just saying I think most people would say from... no you you didn't even have to do the impression”
03:25:08
QuoteRachel Wilson (Andrew's wife) messages during the show: "When Andrew finally loses his cool a bit after 3 hours of trying to get you to answer a simple question in a straightforward way you accuse him of being difficult while no self-awareness."
“we got a message from Rachel Wilson Andrew Wilson's wife when Andrew find oh we should do a Rachel Wilson Cameo”
04:09:24
QuoteDea reveals she dated an NHL player and a Portuguese soccer player while modeling.
“a professional soccer player yes and a professional hockey player but you in relationship those were all very short”
04:13:45
OtherAndrew Wilson leaves the show before the Ebony tweets segment. Brian noted he had tried to keep him for it.
“I wasn't here I was in the... he's gone I was hoping we could get into this”
04:31:22
ControversyAndrew delivers the "faking virtue" argument: women who slept with men they didn't like but make the good guy wait are faking virtue, and therefore the guy they claim to like is someone they're just "settling" for.
“what Brian says well then you're faking virtue because it was not for you virtuous to not sleep with the men before me”
04:59:29
QuoteBrian's cheeseburger analogy: "making a man wait while her previous 10-20 partners paid $1 for a cheeseburger, then charging him $1,000 because she likes him more."
“I've said it before on the show so it's like making a man wait while her you know woman's past 10 20 whatever previous Partners she slept with on the first or second date is like me going to McDonald's and everyone in the restaurant paid $1 for a cheeseburger”
05:18:52
QuoteBella tells story of a guy who wore a VR headset watching Pornhub while having sex with her because he couldn't get hard.
“he basically what kind of VR was it like the like the Oculus VR headset... he searched up Pornhub and then he like”
05:22:00
QuoteBrian shows clip of his ex-girlfriend bowing to him and explains his daily bow requirement for his girlfriend.
“I do want my girlfriend to do a a respectful bow I expect... it has to be at least I think 40 45 de minimum is respect I prefer deep bow”
05:31:00
ControversyAndrew challenges Dea's Christian theology on submission. Dea eventually concedes she would sell her sailboat if her husband asked her to, per Ephesians 5:22.
“if that's his will then yes... your husband he says I want you to sell your boat and stop sailing do you do it if if that's his will then yes”
05:37:58
QuoteBrandon Clark confirms he is a Christian nationalist who supports patriarchy.
“I'm very Pro patriarchy I'm not pro equality and yeah I'm a Christian nationalist is an extreme way of putting it but yeah”
06:14:42
QuoteBrian fake-proposes to Myin with a ring pop to get her to reveal her body count.
“myin Gertrude wait you can't see it what oh there you go will you marry me wait what will you marry me”
06:18:33
ControversyBrian reads Ebony's tweets live on stream including "Slayer of white men," men should be slaves, men shouldn't vote, home-wrecking, male chastity cages, and reparations tweets. Panel reacts with shock. Ebony defends them as genuine beliefs.
“I keep men in cages and only let them out to make more money for me... men deserve to be treated less than dogs”
06:19:00
QuoteEbony proposes men should be in chastity cages and have 11pm curfews. Multiple women raise hands in favor.
“I think men should be in chassity cages I think we as a society Society should normalize that... I think men should have curfews”
06:23:00
QuoteEbony says men shouldn't vote and men make make are the reason for societal problems.
“I think that men voting is why we're in this predicament now”
Topics Discussed
00:00:07
Introductions & Relationship Statuses
Brian and all guests introduce themselves with name, age, location, occupation, education. Then go around the table on current relationship status, longest relationship, who broke up with who.
00:31:30
TTS/Viewer Questions — First Date Flowers & Buzz Cut Prices
Viewer-submitted hypotheticals: high-profile job vs $100k sewer cleaning; how much to buzz hair off. Also Trump-as-trans-woman president and WWII trade questions. Discussion on flowers on first dates.
00:41:47
Chivalry vs Equality — Andrew's Position
Andrew Wilson argues women who demand equality shouldn't also demand chivalry. Dea defends acts of kindness. Discussion spirals into Christianity's patriarchal structure, female apostles, and submission theology.
01:19:00
Myin: Too Nice/Submissive — Can Women Be TOO Nice?
Brian deep-dives into Myin's background: Always in relationships since 19, often the caregiver/financier for weak men. Cultural Japanese upbringing causing her to be too generous. Lived abroad/circus career. Brian advises her not to let American culture corrupt her traditional values.
01:37:46
Women Don't Need Men — Ebony's Position & Debate
Ebony claims women would fare better if all men disappeared. Andrew and Brian counter with infrastructure statistics (99% male linemen, 94% loggers, etc.). Debate on whether women gravitate to those jobs by choice or due to patriarchy. Includes pickle jar challenge, "do you know what a stud is" moment.
01:47:55
Men vs Women in the Workforce / Apocalypse Scenario
Continuation of women-don't-need-men theme: Brian shows stats of male-dominated critical infrastructure jobs (99% linemen, 94% truck drivers, etc.). Argument about what would happen if men disappeared overnight.
02:35:45
Age Gap Relationships & Phenotype/PDF Debate
Debate on whether age gap relationships are immoral. Ebony argues men attracted to "childlike phenotypes" are PDF files. Andrew and Brian expose contradictions in her logic. Discussion on mature-looking vs young-looking body types.
03:09:53
Ratings Round — Self-Ratings (1-10 scale)
Stiffler (viewer) asks all guests to rate their own looks 1-10 (no 7). Results: Ebony=8, Michaela=10, Bella=10, Shelby=6, Ana=9, Myin=10, Mecca=10, Dea=8, Samson=6, Brandon=10 (on camera he says "inbred 5 but 9 in real life"), Brian=8 (consistent 8), Andrew=10. Followed by AI-aging photos of all panelists. Discussion on when women peak in attractiveness.
03:10:27
Woodworking Debate & Andrew Rates Himself a 10
Dea claims to do woodworking; Andrew challenges what woodworking actually means. Andrew insists he's a 10; Dea gives him a subjective 5 (reduced to 4 for personality). Long debate on whether beauty can be assessed objectively. Rachel Wilson messages from home.
04:09:00
Dea: Dating Professional Athletes & Makeup-Free Living
Dea reveals dating NHL player and Portuguese soccer player briefly while modeling. Currently with her best friend (6'4"). Brian calls out height hypocrisy. Dea explains her natural/no-makeup lifestyle and DIY product-making.
04:26:10
Hookup Culture, Faking Virtue & The "Jipped" Argument
Andrew delivers Brian's "faking virtue" argument: women who were promiscuous with guys they didn't like but make the good guy wait are faking virtue. The man is "settling" for someone who won't sleep with him. Mecca's stripper-club origin story illustrates the point. Brian's cheeseburger analogy.
05:22:00
Brian's Bow Video & Biblical Submission
Brian shows clip of his ex-girlfriend bowing to him. Panel reacts. Dea and Andrew debate biblical submission (Ephesians 5:22). Dea concedes she would sell her boat if husband asked. Brandon reveals he supports patriarchy and Christian nationalism.
06:14:30
Body Count Round
Brian tries to get body counts around the table. Brian fake-proposes to Myin. Mecca says ~8. Dea declines (was assaulted). Samson declines but says motivated by love/fantasy. Most guests decline. Ebony gets called non-binary by mistake.
06:18:33
Ebony's Controversial Tweets & Findom Worldview
Brian reads Ebony's tweets live: "Slayer of white men," men should be in cages, curfews for men, men shouldn't vote, men deserve to be slaves, etc. Panel reacts. Dea and Shelby push back. Ebony defends her views as genuine, not just marketing. Also announces men's income should go to wives and male chastity cages should be normalized.
06:19:00
Curfews for Men & Male Chastity Cages
Ebony proposes men should have 11pm curfews and be put in chastity cages. Multiple women at table raise hands in favor of curfews. Brian, Dea, and Shelby push back.
06:48:50
Bear vs Man in the Forest
Classic viral question: cross paths with a bear or a man in the forest alone? Many women choose bear due to fear of assault. Brian challenges the percentages. Dea shares real experience of being followed by a man for 10 miles while backpacking.
07:38:00
Relationship Advice & Final Topics
Brandon shares positions on patriarchy and arranged marriage. Final viewer chats and roast session. Guests share their types. Brian shares his ideal partner. Call to action for Bella and Mecca to quit sex work.
07:53:52
Roast Session & Show Wrap
Viewers send in roasts of panelists. Ebony fires back at trolls. Guests share Harry Potter houses. Final call to action. Brian raids Monkey News on Twitch.
Transcript
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05:38:05
Brian Atlasdon't change them like that why but so um I guess what my FR I guess the reason I bring up the bow thing is it's like this fairly innocent totally
05:38:17
Brian Atlasbenign action it takes no effort from the woman but you guys see it as like oh it's disrespectful it's actually no it's like the be it's the smallest little gesture that you can do to show that you
05:38:27
Brian Atlasrespect your partner and I I think what's interesting to me is like women you have these expectations on men you want a guy to do all the chivalrous [ __ ] uh open open the car door be a
05:38:38
Brian Atlasgentleman you want a guy to like walk on the uh the in I guess the inside of the sidewalk so that way if a [ __ ] car comes crack he has to die and you get to
05:38:50
Brian Atlaslive he can protect you whatever it is um you want a guy to take a bullet for you you want all these things you want a guy to pay for dates you want a guy to take all the risks of rejection and throughout the the course of courtship
05:39:01
Brian Atlasthere's like at least a dozen different points where a guy could you know have to take initiative and risk rejection you want a guy to take the initiative you want a guy to make the first move you guys want men men should do these things you want men to do all these
05:39:14
Brian Atlasthings but the moment men say well I want a woman to do this women should do this it's like that's you get all bent out of shape if Men start saying women should but you guys don't have any issue
05:39:25
Brian Atlaswith saying men should and it's just interesting to me like okay a woman will have sex with a guy on
05:39:34
Brian Atlasthe first dat let him ejaculate inside of her let him ejaculate on her face or in her mouth and she'll swallow it
05:39:44
Brian Atlasum you'll do that [ __ ] but hold on pump the brakes for the bow it's symbolism but what don't you think it's kind of crazy that you you got a table
05:39:56
Bellaof women who would not do the bow but you'll let a guy Splunk on your face because on the on the first date the bow that you're you are or the girl
05:40:08
Brian Atlasis below them but what do you think is more degrading a guy blasting on your face getting into your eye your hair is all [ __ ] up for a couple days or 3 seconds no effort what's what's
05:40:21
Brian Atlaslike more degrading I feel like someone would argue that it's more degrading to Bow that's all right I don't know that's just
05:40:31
Brian Atlasme that was a good line of reasoning like I think it's just uh I don't know the other confusing thing it's like you as women if you guys and I maybe it's not your standard but I think a lot of
05:40:43
Brian Atlaswomen how about this just show hands who here wants a guy to pay for the first date michaa she's kind of raising her around all right you you guys want men to pay
05:40:53
Brian Atlasfor the first eight so let's say do you think like $100 is like a reasonable price to pay for the first eight for his meal for yours I think maybe it could be cheaper maybe it's like 50 bucks or whatever but I think like it's it
05:41:06
Brian Atlaswouldn't be uncommon for guy to pay $100 like to take you to a decent restaurant you know a drink each meal whatever if he's taking you somewhere really upscale it could be a couple hundred or even
05:41:17
Brian Atlasinto the thousands right it's like so your expectation there let's say the guy makes $20 an hour and it's a $100 meal you expect him to work for five hours to
05:41:29
Brian Atlastake you on the DAT let's say he works construction job so you want a guy to physically labor to be able to take you on the date but all I'm asking for is a bow that takes 3 seconds but you want a
05:41:42
Brian Atlasguy to work hours to be able to take yall out how's it wrong for me to want to Bow but you want a guy to work multiple hours to take you out let's say he's digging ditches he's got a
05:41:52
Ebonyliterally dig a ditch shovel anybody hear shovel that shit's hard push back anybody yeah I think um all right I think the bow symbolizes
05:42:04
Ebonythat the female is below the man and in reality the female is above the man so I don't think that it would make any sense to bow to a man dude she's so lost she's so I mean I don't I'm not lost at all
05:42:17
Brian Atlasand let me explain why but the man is digging ditches the man has to dig a ditch for five hours out of the to do that's what he was made to
05:42:27
Ebonydo that's his purpose that's what he was built for and so women are more valuable because we can reproduce okay so when it comes to any
05:42:37
Ebonyspecies reproduction is the most important aspect to its survival okay men women are reproduce men are survival
05:42:47
Ebonyokay so men have to compensate for their lack of ability to reproduce with having other skills for survival whereas women
05:42:57
Brian Atlasthe fact that we can reproduce alone makes us a superior more valuable if the men disappear the grid goes down the refrigerator die yes I'm a female sperm di I'm not I'm not a feminist I'm a
05:43:09
Myinfemale supremacist that is that worse than the feminist I guess femin radical isn't that isn't that what birds do like the like the peacocks the male peacocks are always more beautiful and they have
05:43:21
Brian Atlaslike put on a dance and stuff like that for the female peacocks yeah and the female peacocks that's an appeal to Nature like Li but lions like they let the women do all the hunting and they
05:43:32
Brian Atlasjust kick it yeah and they they bang all of the female do one male do the do the luses do they they do the fighting tum it or I don't know dude it's crazy they
05:43:44
Andrew Wilsondo they do the hunting they do the hunting now there there is cases for instance uh there were lions lions actually will get revenge there was
05:43:53
Andrew Wilsonhyenas who used to attack a single lion pride um and the Lions actually went out and murdered all the hyenas like they retroactively paid retribution on behalf
05:44:06
Andrew Wilsonof their tribe now Lions don't kill all lions who are around just others who challenge their position if they're males but the women do do all the work and the Alpha Lion
05:44:18
Andrew Wilsongenerally humps all the women that's just the way it is now some of the other women in the tribe they get humped by other male lions that does happen at the
05:44:29
Andrew Wilsonyou know Pride heads uh dictate but I don't think it's a good idea for us to compare ourselves to Lions obviously we're not I'm just pointing poting out that if you wanted to reflect on how
05:44:40
Andrew Wilsonnature works and then apply it to humanity uh definitely the males in nature run
05:44:49
Andrew Wilsoneverything I mean the the male sex in nature runs everything they're always stronger well not always but almost always stronger and they almost always
05:45:00
Brian Atlasset down the dictates I also want a girl who can make me a quilt like what kind of
05:45:09
Andrew Wilsonquilt uh a very detailed quilt how detailed that's comfortable and warm for you to sleep with wait what is
05:45:20
Andrew Wilsonit it's like a blanket right you want B needles you want the big needle I do you want the big needle need yes and if she doesn't know how to churn butter she ain't the one she's been saving all this
05:45:31
Brian Atlascom to be a wo it has to be a wool quote something like that um let's pull up the video Daman let's pull up the video this is uh maybe what do you guys think about this maybe related to the
05:45:42
Brian Atlasbow uh make it a little bigger and also unmute the audio first before you play it uh refres can you did you refresh it
05:45:52
Brian Atlasuh no's just refresh it yeah cuz and then pause it immediately refresh
05:45:58
Brian Atlasyeah pause pause uh unmute the audio make it one bigger play it yeah
05:46:09
UnknownI will forever submit to you e I'll forever submit to you miles E I'll forever respect you miles I'll
05:46:19
Unknownforever honor you miles as the head of our home and no other there is no other that there is no one no plans of Hell will ever prosper in our marriage and
05:46:30
Unknownwill ever hold me not to be a wife that is a Proverbs 31 Woman amen I will become that woman that builds the home as I follow you as you follow Christ
05:46:42
Unknownthat is the only thing that we will do in our household and I promise and I vow that in heaven they hear on Earth I declare and decree I shall be a
05:46:54
Unknownsubmissive wife unto you as we continue to do this work of God out forever dang wait I have a question I need that woman in my life wa she's married wait a
05:47:06
Andrew Wilsonsecond wait just want to let all of you know and you can be you can be mad and see I'll get to you but there every man who's a Christian who just watched that right now's a Protestant which I'm not
05:47:17
Andrew Wilsonis thinking in their head that's [ __ ] right that's exactly how things are supposed to be just pointing that
05:47:27
Shelby Claytonout Yik go ahead Shelby are you fully providing and every other aspect for the for your wife and for the family if you
05:47:37
Shelby Claytonwatch that video she's going through asking like if you're going to like financially provide and provide like
05:47:45
Brian Atlasevery other thing are you is that like the exchange Yeah well yeah if I'm if if this is my girl I'm taking care of everything then I think that that's she doesn't have to work yeah but there's
05:47:58
Brian Atlasgoing to be an expectation there that I agree with that yeah I think that video is beautiful she's like I respect you as the leader of the household she's
05:48:09
Brian Atlasobviously I don't know she's deeply infatuated with the fact that he is like a man worthy of respect and I think a lot of women are abored by that video
05:48:20
Brian Atlasbecause they they've never met a man worthy of their respect like they've never met a man that was willing to do all of that they have guys that are no offense but just worse situations where
05:48:33
Andrew Wilsonokay but hang on now we're getting back into this the the the simp aspect right you keep on blaming men for this like yeah keep on saying women aren't meeting
05:48:42
Brian Atlasthe right guy it's like what is the right guy though what well in in her case you know it's somebody that would provide you know somebody that would
05:48:52
Brian Atlasultimately be worthy of respect I really don't think they want equality yeah well I I don't think she said that no no you don't want equality you don't want to vote I honestly don't
05:49:06
Shelby Claytoncare you want equality in any aspect of life no I mean as
05:49:14
Shelby Claytonlike I want to be feminine and I don't want to have to worry about certain things I want the man in my life I want
05:49:24
Shelby Claytonto be able to have him lead and have my respect for him to do so Andrew do think that's totally fair let me just ask you what is it that he
05:49:35
Shelby Claytongets what does he get he gets my submissiveness
05:49:43
Shelby Claytonand my nurturing feminine abilities and for me to make the house a home and to be there for him emotionally and for
05:49:55
Shelby Claytonwhat he needs to be the masculine version of himself are you going to do what he says
05:50:02
Andrew Wilsonyeah within the confines of reason yeah of course okay that's fair so let's say that the two of you are in an argument
05:50:13
Andrew Wilsonabout where to send your kids to school and you are adamant that your children should be in a different School than the one that he thinks your kids should be in why well it disrupts your your
05:50:25
Andrew Wilsonschedule you have to drive an hour and a half out of the way should you obey and do what he's asking you to do anyway even though you
05:50:35
Shelby Claytondon't think that it it conforms to reason yeah and the person that I marry
05:50:44
Shelby ClaytonI would assume that our beliefs and what he is trying to build is something that I would respect and I would want to build with
05:50:56
Brian Atlasthat as well like build with him those things change huh those things change people's priorities change but Andrew do
05:51:05
Brian Atlasyou believe that all men are worthy of that kind of respect from a
05:51:12
Andrew Wilsonwoman from at least a woman from a woman the truth is is that most women right
05:51:21
Andrew Wilsonseem to put themselves above men and this is because they get a lot of sexual attention from most men because men are
05:51:31
Andrew Wilsonwilling to sleep with them that see they seem to categorize that with most men want to be with them these are two distinct
05:51:41
Andrew Wilsoncategories so my question would just be simply this to most women you want if you're a traditional woman you want the man to take care of things
05:51:52
Andrew Wilsonfinancially you want the man to take care of you what does he get most women will just say he gets me
05:52:01
Andrew Wilsonwhat do you get well you get everything paid for you get you get your entire life planned out for you you have a man
05:52:10
Andrew Wilsonwho will wake up at night and die on your behalf if the boat is going down he gets on or you get on it and he stays
05:52:20
Ebonywith the boat what do he get he gets the woman the woman is the prize right and that's exactly the problem is that you
05:52:29
Andrew Wilsonthink that the woman is the prize and so this is where I disagree what makes women the prize considering you just
05:52:39
Andrew Wilsonwill [ __ ] anybody who doesn't even like you you [ __ ] men who don't even like you what makes you a prize if you'll
05:52:49
Andrew Wilson[ __ ] a man who doesn't even like you that's why lust is a sin and that's why no no let her answer what makes you the prize if you'll [ __ ] a man who doesn't even like you I need just a quick
05:53:01
Ebonyexchange here just because it is getting a little very quickly what makes you the prize I think regardless of like women in their body count or like who they sleep
05:53:12
Ebonywith um I think women are still valuable regardless because women can reproduce and you still want smex out of that woman regardless of like all you want smex out of the woman but you'd want
05:53:24
Andrew Wilsonsmex out of the woman even if you couldn't reproduce with her right yeah okay well then the reproduction aspect doesn't seem to be the key here does it so if that is the case then tell me
05:53:36
Ebonyagain if you'll [ __ ] men you don't even like how are you my prize or any man's prize Well I personally wouldn't [ __ ] a guy that I don't like and I don't think any woman is [ __ ] guys that they
05:53:47
Andrew Wilsondon't like I think it's well this is a massive massive disproportionate distinction between the position you held earlier where you were coping over and over again I said they women have
05:53:58
Andrew Wilsonsex with men they don't like all the time because they're exceptional yeah if they're exceptional then they like massive contradictions from you again but back to um red sweatshirt I think we've had enough of
05:54:11
Andrew Wilsonyour contradictions for an evening Madame uh red sweatshirt we were we I'm sorry I didn't catch your name earlier uh very corner to what you guys would see as my left back to you I was just
05:54:23
Shelby Claytonwondering you would submit to everything that your husband asked you to do yeah and if there's mutual respect as well in the relationship what does that
05:54:33
Shelby Claytonmean that he sees the value that I also bring to the relationship where I do believe that they man and the woman has different aspects that they both bring
05:54:44
Shelby Claytonto the relationship but I think that they both have high value who gets to determine that determine
05:54:53
Shelby Claytonwhat your value I think that it could differentiate in different relationships and I think that
05:55:05
Andrew Wilsonyours I don't get it who gets to determine your value in the relationship with your man that you have submitted
05:55:18
Andrew Wilsonto I don't I don't know you don't know you don't know who gets to determine like the amount you don't you don't know the man you have submitted to man but you don't know who gets to determine
05:55:30
Shelby Claytonyour value in that relationship well I feel like I would respect him and value him when he
05:55:41
Shelby Claytonalso like sees the value in me that's not submission that's that's egalitarianism that's I will submit based on I'm not saying that I'm equal but I also bring aspects to the
05:55:53
Andrew Wilsonrelationship that a man it's submission based on conditionals you're saying I have conditions for submission how's that
05:56:02
Shelby Claytonsubmission no I don't think that asking to be seen as value is like not submitting yeah but when you
05:56:12
Andrew Wilsonsay value this is up to you as to what your value is so if you say he's not seeing my value then you get to be the Arbiter of what your value is then that's probably not a guy that I would
05:56:24
Andrew Wilsonwant to be with because we don't have because we don't have the same values can't be submission if you get to make the dictate as to how it is that you
05:56:35
Andrew Wilsonsubmit no that's not submission it's not submission if you say the man doesn't get to be the Arbiter of your value but you get to be the Arbiter of the value
05:56:47
Andrew Wilsonto the man that's the opposite of submission no you're misconstruing my thoughts well it's not misconstruing it's misconstruing but I'm willing to hear out how I'm misconstruing your
05:56:59
Brian Atlasthoughts we we do have a lot to get through so you guys need to make a final point on this make it very quick yeah yeah I don't know I'm I said I was like I
05:57:11
Shelby Claytonthink that the woman should submit to the man but she also has value like you can't just like be a piece of trash it's not that you're a piece of
05:57:22
Andrew Wilsontrash it's not saying you're a piece of trash it's just explaining to you that submission means that you have given
05:57:31
Andrew Wilsonyourself over to X I have submitted to X like if you submit yourself to Jesus Christ you don't get to determine to Jesus Christ how it is that you have
05:57:43
Andrew Wilsonsubmitted that's not how it works he's the determiner it would be the same thing with a husband if you submit to a god you don't get to determine how you submit to the god the god gets to
05:57:54
Andrew Wilsondetermine how you submit so if that is the case you can't say I have submitted to this thing but I get to be the Arbiter of how things work what my value
05:58:04
Andrew Wilsonis that would be up to the thing you submitted to because that's because that God quickly very hang on very quickly and I'll let you respond could you
05:58:15
Andrew Wilsonimagine going to a God and saying you don't get to determine my value that would be the that would be antithetical to submitting to the god of
05:58:27
Shelby Claytoncourse he gets to determine the value that's submission yeah but you're submitting to God because you know that he already values you and loves you oh so it's an exchange it's like a
05:58:42
Andrew Wilsontransaction no no no it's not like a transaction that's what I'm saying that's not that's the opposite of submission that's not what I'm saying anyway I'll let Brian moving on sorry
05:58:53
Brian AtlasBrian yeah I guess just final thing on this when it comes to submission it's just interesting to me it seems like like who here wants to have like a boss babe career anybody probably her the woman who would
05:59:06
Brian Atlashave said yes is gone and by the way Brian we're at we're at two I'm going to do a raid over to your channel oh you should you should maybe wait until we get into uh this girl's notes for a little bit if you got
05:59:18
Andrew Wilsongot a bit more time I don't I don't this evening but um I do appreciate you guys having me on all right um I do I do have to have the the heart out it to but guys
05:59:29
Andrew WilsonI really appreciate it it was nice to meet all of you no hard feelings um my job is to push back against your World Views so um I appreciate meeting all of
05:59:39
Andrew Wilsonyou oh Andrew do you want to do a quick shout out for a debate you yeah you can um I I do have a course on how to do and conduct debates called debate University
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06:00:13
Brian Atlasguys so much and you have a wonderful lead thank you Andrew appreciate you sending over the raid guys debate university.com check it out guys uh okay we're going to just try to get through all of this real quickly uh but when it
06:00:25
Brian Atlascomes to this last thing on the submission topic it's just interesting to me because I feel like women have traded being submissive to their husbands to
06:00:35
Brian Atlasbeing submissive to your employer I mean that's what you are like you have an employer they they might even bark orders at you they'll boss you
06:00:46
Brian Atlasaround do this do this do this you have to do it otherwise you get fired wear this don't wear that have your hair like this be professional blah blah blah blah blah you'll be submissive to your
06:00:57
Brian Atlasemployer your cold Corporation to your boss but you wouldn't be submissive to the man who you love and who loves you who I think well most of your husbands even if they do want a traditional
06:01:10
Brian Atlasrelationship and they want you to be submissive are probably going to ask far less of you than a corporation will then your boss will then your employer will I mean if you think about a female waitress in a given day her boss is
06:01:22
Brian Atlasgoing to expect her to okay bring food over here put on the happy face with all the rude customers wipe down the table clean the spill clean the floor clean this clean that run this order to the
06:01:32
Brian Atlaspickup take out the trash organize this organize that dozen other things I'm not even listing and you'll be a good worker drun a good worker be but your husband
06:01:44
Brian Atlasjust wants you to cook and clean and you don't want to do that you won't do a bow I don't know maybe you maybe you're like a Hostess in your job maybe
06:01:55
Brian Atlasyou don't bow but oh welcome to um [ __ ] uh I don't know [ __ ] Arby's I don't know they probably don't have hostesses at Arby's I don't know chilies
06:02:06
Brian Atlasyou're working at oh hey there welcome to Chili's but you can't hit a bow for the man who you love and who love in Texas R Us dance if you had gotten rid
06:02:17
Bellaof like um men doing or ping for the first date or men having to open the car doors or having to walk on the sidewalk then do you still think that it's still normal
06:02:29
Brian Atlasfor the women to bow down to the men so if we get rid of we get rid of all of it I mean I think it you have to to both people have to be uh I mean so if we're talking about
06:02:41
Brian Atlasbeing traditional I think both people have to hold up their end of the deal so like as a guy you can't be non-traditional and expect traditional
06:02:51
Brian Atlastreatment and vice versa does it take for what do you mean for it to not or to not bow to just to be clear also I think traditional non-traditional it's kind of a spectrum I don't think everybody's
06:03:03
Brian Atlasgoing to be like all the way to the extreme over here and like I think you you know in some ways you might not be totally traditional but you're mostly traditional whatever um but so what's
06:03:14
Bellathe question so what does it take for it to be obscene for the woman to bow down to the man what does the guy have to do
06:03:21
Bellato get that yeah for it to like be not part of your standards wait what do you mean like I don't I'm not sorry
06:03:32
Brian Atlasjust what does it take for like does it take like 50/50 like even split for in all before the bow goes away yeah before the so like you you're saying like oh Brian if the girl was willing to pay
06:03:45
Brian Atlaslike 50/50 with you would you like not accept the bow like with all aspects like not even just 50-50 with paying but but if a war happened Brian would be
06:03:55
Brian Atlasforced to go off to fight the war uh I guess um but I mean like I don't I'm can you You' be more
06:04:06
Brian Atlasprecise I guess and I don't think it can be 50/50 if an intr if an intruder breaks into your home like who is going to attack the Intruder it's not the
06:04:18
Brian Atlaswoman you know there are situations as soon as violence comes into play then the 50/50 goes out the window like the
06:04:26
Brian Atlaswoman simply can't in those situations be 50/50 with the man like if there's a home invasion and I got to go kill the guy
06:04:37
Brian Atlaswhatever I don't know who here has a firearm just curious anybody I do okay um so I could kill the man that's good for you thank you congratulations thank you uh what was your Michaela were you
06:04:50
Michaela Quancoming in on no I was going to say I feel like there's a difference between um like wanting something in a relationship and thinking it should happen Okay so like I don't know if you
06:05:03
Michaela Quanlove someone and you say like I want you to bow to me I feel like that's that's valid like you can ask some you can say I want that but when you start saying like things should happen that's when
06:05:13
Michaela Quanyou get to like okay well is it 50/50 like is it even I don't think it should be like that in relationships well how should it be I think it should be if if you want something like Everyone's
06:05:25
Michaela Quanentitled to wanting something there should be a conversation yeah and if you say I want that and the person really loves you then like I wouldn't have a problem doing something yeah so I mean but how about this
06:05:38
Brian Atlasscenario guy goes on a date with you Michaela and he's like I would like to have a conversation about who's going to pay for this date and then you're like you you're going to have that
06:05:47
Michaela Quanconversation and be cool with how that date's going um well if I don't if I don't want to have a conversation oh then I feel like that's what do you mean you don't want to have the conversation
06:05:59
Brian AtlasI don't know like what if the guy what if the guy who wants you to Bow you want to have the conversation with him about not wanting bow and he's like I don't want to have that conversation you should just bow um well then you're
06:06:10
Brian Atlasprobably just not a good match okay like that's why people you know some people are better for each other than others but I mean I'm trying to think of a
06:06:19
Brian Atlassituation where we have the conversation about something that I'm displeased with like oh I don't want to have to do
06:06:30
Michaela Quanthis well I think like when you love someone you you like you decide what you will sacrifice I guess for them like if someone came up
06:06:41
Michaela Quanto me and was like I really really really want you to Bow and I like really loved him I feel like I'd be like should be on the first date you got to hit the bow on the first dat well no but that's fine like you're entitled to wanting a
06:06:54
Michaela Quanbow on the first date I don't think you're wrong for that I think you coming and saying you should bow to me on the first date is like a little is kind of pushing it she should just do it she should just do she should just do it I
06:07:06
Brian Atlasdon't need to tell her to do it she just does it cuz she knows she watches the podcast she's like ah this is what Brian likes I'm just going to do it in that case yeah no in that case then if you find a girl that feel like feels like
06:07:18
Brian Atlasshe should do it for you then that's a good match I know what if I went up to a girl and I didn't even know her and I'm like I'd like to have a conversation about you making the first
06:07:29
Brian Atlasmove I don't want to make the first move but I just made the first move but like you carry the rest of the conversation and then like I'll ask you out on the date but then you pay for the date we
06:07:40
Brian Atlasshould have conversations about that I think if she felt like she also wanted to have that conversation that's fair I also maybe we should let's have a conversation about who goes for the first kiss would you would the first
06:07:52
Brian Atlaskiss would you prefer it go like that or would you prefer the guy to just go for it no I don't think you necessarily have to have a conversation about everything that's what you said though you said there should be a conversation about the
06:08:03
Michaela Quanbow I mean no no no not not that there should be a conversation but it's like you you're entitled to wanting what you want oh okay all right I mean how is how
06:08:14
Brian Atlasis a girl going to like know that you want AOW unless I mean if she doesn't watch the show then I'm going to have to tell her we just have to change all of society with this podcast that's what
06:08:25
Brian Atlaswe're doing you know what though I've had multiple women uh DM me who are in relationships and they're like look Brian at first I thought this bow thing's [ __ ] ridiculous but I just
06:08:36
Brian Atlaslike hid it real quick from my boyfriend he was like he liked it I've had multiple women tell me the boyfriend liked it and it's like this totally benign takes no effort and you guys are so object to it so much you know what
06:08:49
Brian AtlasI'll try it and I'll report back to you let me know yeah let me know how suck his to changing hearts and Minds ran incred yeah I don't know anyways I do want to move things on here just to get
06:09:00
Brian Atlasthrough everything uh okay let's see here we have still Bella or no I think okay Samson
06:09:08
Brian Atlasyo uh which in return something about high on the valid fertile
06:09:16
Samsonbreeder no bro don't bring that one up
06:09:24
Samsonokay oh I thought you were going to elaborate a bit um oh I don't know I forgot that was oh okay is there anything you want to ask or okay okay I
06:09:35
Samsondo know okay so um when you are attractive in your 30s um I think being 30 years as a woman you haven't even
06:09:45
Samsondecreased at all but there is people that will start to slowly decline a little uh anyway this something about uh how 20 year olds are more attractive
06:09:56
Samsonthan 30y olds but I think 30y olds are more attractive than 20 for couple reasons one being your mind um your work ethic that you've made in the last 10
06:10:05
Samsonyears years and then how you are aging um and I think that makes you a valid fertile breeder and I think men appreciate to see a valid fertile
06:10:16
Brian Atlasbreeder okay there you go all right yeah that's cool um and uh and I mean just to be clear like I want my girl to bow do my laundry
06:10:27
Brian Atlaswhatever I'mma take care of everything I think that's a seems like a fair tradeoff yo Andrew thank you for the raid man do appreciate it very much
06:10:37
Brian Atlasappreciate it uh they bow that they bow without saying it directly somebody in the chat said that yeah um okay going to ebony I wish we got into this stuff when
06:10:48
Brian AtlasAndrew was still here the most Deen stuff ever but um all right uh actually here you one of your notes Here you say body count doesn't matter oh it doesn't uh going around the
06:11:00
Brian Atlastable uh do you think body count matters does it not matter starting with Michaela going around M I don't I don't know how about this do
06:11:12
Ebonyyou think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count um no okay I think it matters you think it matters I think they are insecure I think they're
06:11:23
Ebonyprobably comparing shallel we okay I don't think body count matters it doesn't matter all right um kind of in the middle but it
06:11:35
Samsonkind of matters okay um I don't think it matters I think it
06:11:43
Shelby Claytonmatters um yeah half does matter I guess yeah I definitely think it matters Shelby yeah I just say that I don't think it matters because from my
06:11:56
Shelby Claytonpersonal experience I'm not like the same person that I used to be and I hope that somebody wouldn't hold that against me let me rephrase the question would you
06:12:07
Brian Atlashold it against a man for taking it heavily into consideration what a woman's body count is um if that's who she still is and is
06:12:18
Brian Atlascontinuing that behavior but isn't who she is at this point somewhat based off of her past yeah but I mean if she's
06:12:26
Shelby Claytonstill continuing with the act of being lustful but I know that I've changed tremendously as a person person
06:12:37
Shelby Claytonand yes I've made mistakes but I've also learned from that and I've also grown as a person and became better from it yeah it sound it sounds to me like it does
06:12:47
Shelby Claytonmatter that or that you at least wouldn't be down on a man for thinking that it matters he has his own opinion but I don't personally think the
06:12:59
Brian Atlasbody count matters because you can be a like it doesn't reflect that the current person you are do you really think that somebody that's bonded with someone
06:13:09
Brian Atlasphysically and even chemically she was talking about the oxytocin like don't you think that that is plain into how things are no matter how much of how much of a new person you are don't you
06:13:22
Brian Atlasthink that that plays a role yeah I mean you can't go back and change anything but cuz what the science suggests is that the more people a woman has bonded
06:13:32
Brian Atlaswith the less sticky the Bond becomes as time goes on hold on let's um here how about this uh since body count doesn't matter what's your body count um seven
06:13:44
Brian Atlasokay going around the table Michaela one okay eight eight okay I'm not going to answer do you want to do range like 10 to 20 something like that no
06:13:55
Brian Atlascomment okay yeah no comment yeah I don't feel you guys should do a comment come on give us a range Ana range how about the range
06:14:06
Myinno comment let more than 10 okay uh what about you range give us a range at least okay so consider I'm 33 I think I'm the oldest one here yeah so
06:14:20
Brian Atlaslike a range or you could give the number I mean I'm fine with the number you could give the number give the number I feel like some things are supposed to be private and some
06:14:30
Myinespecially someone that's like trying to get married you you know look I should have a Brian's whipping out the gifts he's going to give a gift not that it's
06:14:42
Brian Atlaslike a lot I just feel like not everything has to be shared World um hold on myin Gertrude wait you can't see
06:14:52
Brian Atlasit what oh there you go will you marry me wait what will you marry me so we're engaged once we're engaged you can disclose your body count because you're already it's like you're trying to get
06:15:05
MyinMar we're engaged it's all good I I think it's something that's private between you and the person that you're with just happen you know there's just certain things that are supposed to
06:15:16
Brian Atlasbe private range how about just a range then you don't have to give the exact number like no okay just pass me all right what about you who's going to have some
06:15:29
Meccacoones here um I don't know the exact number but I would say eight she would say eight okay
06:15:39
Deaoh that's that's it's I've been like essayed so I don't consensual consensual I I would just rather not talk on the subject like that makes me very
06:15:56
Samsonuncomfortable um mine I'm not going to reveal either but it's all been for either a hope of Love or a roleplay fantasy you could see it in their eye or
06:16:06
Brian Atlaslike the energy that day that's watch you guys got screwed at the beginning of the table yo let's give
06:16:14
Brian Atlassome yo guys they were all they said it big UPS to my girl Michaela to my girl Bella to my girl ebony why do you keep
06:16:25
Brian Atlasforgetting my name my girl no I was I was I wasn't sure if you were a they them no no not because you look that way because I feel like you didn't aren't
06:16:38
Ebonyyou non-binary no when did I ever say I was nonbinary [ __ ] I thought you I'm when did I ever say that what the [ __ ] is
06:16:48
Brian Atlasgoing on I I'm sorry ebony what the when did I thought in your your pronouns were she they no must be confusing me I must have
06:16:59
Myinconfused with somebody else yeah you I a i ebony I apologize you have to bow
06:17:08
Brian Atlasnow I have to propose to make up for it uh yo W's in the chat I want to see waa well and webon wait
06:17:20
Brian Atlasweb webon in the chat for for actually revealing hold on this is is a brave and a decent man he's a Pioneer you guys and
06:17:29
Brandon Clarkthen to those of you who didn't do it just do do it that's crazy don't let your dreams be dreams that's crazy
06:17:39
Brian Atlasyesterday you said tomorrow so just do it make your dreams come true I will give a $2 bill I have more than this if you guys disclose you each get a $2 bill
06:17:51
Brian Atlasdo you know how much this is worth nothing2 do you know how much a $2 bill is worth you can get it at the bank will you do it chelby $2 bill for
06:18:01
Brian Atlas100 o I don't care that much oh that was a Ana what about you no I'm good no [ __ ] okay I said
06:18:12
Brian Atlas[ __ ] oh yeah we for we forgot to congratulate her too oh yeah oh my I'm such a scumbag good job I'm proud of you Mecca good job WCA in the chat okay all
06:18:23
Brian Atlasright there's the body count um let's see if there's anything else ebony you said oh boy now we're get I wanted Andrew to stay for yo Crucible crew you going to want to hear this [ __ ] because
06:18:33
Brian Atlasit's yeah he's gone why peaceful I wasn't here I was in the yeah he's gone I was hoping we could get into this um you said all men's income should be deposited directly into their wives
06:18:47
Ebonyaccount yes I don't agree I'm married men should like their you have to pop the glasses off for the segment we need to see your
06:18:56
Brian Atlaseyes yeah look deep into my eyes oh my goodness say this [ __ ] okay yeah so I think that's when when it comes to married men all of their money should be
06:19:08
Ebonydeposited directly into their wives accounts because first of all we know men love to cheat oh my goodness and so we know men love to go and give their money over to their Mistresses and stuff
06:19:19
Ebonylike that and I think to ensure that women aren't being screwed overh why not have it pragmatically where men have to get like when they apply for a job
06:19:32
Brian Atlasthey have and they put in their Bank information they put in their wives I think women should handle the finances in relationships I think do you do you understand the credit problem in America
06:19:43
Brian Atlaslike who spends like the most money women in like relationships and why most relationships end up in like Financial isses there are a lot of
06:19:55
Ebonycultures where you know the women are the ones who handle the finances and it's perfectly fine capitalist Society it's not panning out are 70% of the consumers but that's
06:20:07
Brian Atlaswe target women when we're marketing most of the time like nor anyways just to be to move things on though that's not even the most interesting thing you say you say you say male chasti is
06:20:17
Ebonysuperior yes wait what does that mean okay so basically I don't like I do F I'm in that world are you familiar with
06:20:24
Ebonythe chassity cage I yeah the yeah I know what that I think go it's like a belt it locks it locks yeah it locks up their
06:20:34
Ebonyballs and they yeah I don't know if I can say it on here but yeah locks their pee pee up and I think we as a society should normalize that I think we as a
06:20:44
Ebonysociety Society Society should normalize like men being in chassity cages I think that it would prevent a lot of cheating that men like to do so for example right I think that if a man wants to be in a relationship with a woman like in the
06:20:57
Ebonytalking stages or the dating stages I think that you know he should allow her to put a cage on I mean yeah he should allow her to put a cage on him she keep the key and then if he if he goes around
06:21:07
Ebonydoing things with other women she'll know right and so you know he can't now not nothing uncons Ladi raise your hands if you're in favor of the Chastity cage
06:21:17
Brian Atlasfor I agree just to be clear Brian she might be on to something right wait raise a hand show hands raise them high Michaela no not in favor Bella loves it uh loves it loves
06:21:29
Brian Atlasit loves it not you hold on y'all object to just a bow but y'all want to like a a cage on more they lie more I think that
06:21:39
Ebonyin order to prevent them from you know indulging in their lust and being weak to their lust I think we have as women have a responsibility to hold them accountable well that's not even the
06:21:49
Ebonycraziest thing that you think you also think that men should have curfews yes I think men are a danger to themselves and I think that in order to keep the streets keep the streets I think in
06:22:02
Ebonyorder to keep the streets not only safe for women but even for men themselves I think we should have men have Cur curfs women no C women because women are a
06:22:12
Ebonydanger to society like men are what have you seen a woman driver crimes that men commit men are the number one killers of each other Yeah
06:22:22
Ebonyquestion though what time does the curfew start like dark I think probably not not and I'm talking about nonworking men cuz I know there will be like police officers but like we would need someone
06:22:33
Ebonyto enforce this right but I think probably like 11:00 p.m. cuz you know once it gets to like 12: it's like that's when all the bad St you 11: I was
06:22:44
Brian Atlasthinking you'd go for like 900 p.m. you know but 11:00 p.m. very nice you know once we get to like midnight that's when all the bad stuff starts going down so should raise of hand from the women at the table should men have an 11 any
06:22:56
Brian Atlascurfew should they have any curfew show hands from the women oh yeah man damn Bella W oh my goodness all right well that's not even bars are probably going to go out of business but that's not
06:23:07
Brian Atlaseven the worst thing how is there more I thought that was it how is there more uh now before we have some tweets of yours that we're going to pull up but before we do I found on some of
06:23:19
Brian Atlasyour other Pages here are some things you've said actually no do we do the tweets first let's do the tweets first you talking about my Tik Tok lives I have no idea um but your friend who was going to be on the
06:23:31
Brian Atlasshow was it her who was into the weird race play stuff yeah are you into that or no no cuz I I got I got her on that I got her on that she was like yes I would
06:23:42
Brian Atlasdo race play in front of the ghost of Malcolm X ridiculous bro yo we got two we got two other black women here does mean black woman black woman she said
06:23:53
Brian Atlaslike she's into race play stuff like she wants a white dude no to like say to be having sex with her and like saying the hard all
06:24:05
Brian Atlasand then I asked her I was like would you be how would you feel doing that in front of the ghost of MLK and she was like that would make it better oh my God and then I was like what about
06:24:17
Brian AtlasMalcolm X even better I was like that's [ __ ] up that's crazy I wish she was here she's such a character bro next time next time we'll get her on she sounds like all right guys you guys are
06:24:28
Brian Atlasgoing to think these tweets are crazy though Michaela is going to love it Bella's going to love it Shel is going to love it an is going to love it Mecca's going to love it I don't know how you're going to feel you guys might be upset I don't
06:24:42
Anaknow okay what I'm just I don't know how you guys are going to think okay uh go ahead pull pull up the tweets oh my God now I I want you while
06:24:52
Ebonywe go through there's like 20 of these I want you to read it say it Slayer of white men wow that's race and you've got the middle finger um I mean white men are the main clientele in fock they're
06:25:04
Ebonyreally they really like to be dominated I don't know Slayer of white men okay next read them as they come up so read it I keep men in cages and only let them
06:25:16
Brian Atlasout to make more money for me yep oh despicable absolutely despicable y um that is abhorent uh
06:25:25
Ebonynext I love using and abusing men with no mercy and that's just simple like [Music]
06:25:36
Ebony[Laughter] despicable absolutely all right next I hate men but men love
06:25:47
Brian Atlasyou that's what he commented back next WoW stupid white boy you said this about me didn't you I did this is after
06:25:58
Ebonyour live oh my God stupid white boy bro that's really racist okay next men deserve to be treated less than dogs they need to be locked up in cages
06:26:10
Ebonyand only allowed to come out to only allowed to come out only to [ __ ] piss and eat but only if they've been good boys yep I stand on that Michaela is
06:26:22
Brian Atlassmiling she's holding back a smirk I think she's enjoying this I don't know hold on I listen we've we've only looked at like four or five of them I'm not
06:26:32
Brian Atlaseven gonna say anything I'm going to let the women at the table do you have any objections to these statements that she's making girl they're out of
06:26:43
Anapocket I feel like we all like that's why I'm laughing cuz they're out of pocket like they're just crazy I mean I agree with that I hate men but like I say that for fun like I'll say
06:26:54
Anathat for fun like I don't actually like I don't actually hate men but no the one about the cages okay no I feel like sometimes like we all have these like
06:27:04
Anainner thoughts like when a guy like some [ __ ] it's like damn you never expect your tweets to get read back to you that's why
06:27:13
Ebonyyeah is this is unique for me no girls here have come on you guys was crazy do do you actually believe those things or I mean I told you my views I think men should be I think we
06:27:26
Ebonyshould normalize chassity cages I think we should have curfews on men I think she's a mist and a female supremacist she believes this [ __ ] just thought they were funny yeah I don't she's she's for
06:27:37
Ebonyreal yeah I mean I think that men are lesser I think men are weak and that's why they're giving all their money to women online we no just weak
06:27:47
Brian Atlasminded okay uh ladies any any uh you guys AR a lot of generalizing you guys should be like as a woman you should be like I
06:27:57
Deawill not stand for this I mean I I'm laughing it's crazy I agree if if a man said that there would be so much turmoil about it but a woman
06:28:08
Deasaying it like it's societally acceptable like it's it's it she it's I don't think that it's okay to say that about either genders I think you live in
06:28:18
Brian Atlasa beautiful society that has been created and sustained by men and it's almost fascinatingly interesting that
06:28:29
Brian Atlasyou can make those kind of claims because of the beautiful society that you've been living in that gives you the rights to say that that they
06:28:40
Brian Atlasmade for us where you can have that interesting of a Viewpoint Let's do let's see the rest let's see the rest read it the good white boys who love to oh my goodness bmwo that stand okay wait
06:28:53
EbonyI didn't read it where are the good white boys who love to submit to bmwo bmwo stands for black New World Order oh my goodness what
06:29:04
Ebonywho the [ __ ] is that guy what is that I don't know what that is is that do you guys know what that is so I've never heard of that
06:29:13
Ebonybefore are you familiar with like cuck holding oh my
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Ebonygosh sadly yeah it's like it's like in that realm in a sense it's like when a guy watches like the wife Fu okay I figured we got a we got a message here
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Brian AtlasChristopher Murphy if Andrew didn't leave you'd be in turmoil chair three I tried to tell him I tried to tell him I'm like bro you want to stay for this [ __ ] but okay all right uh Chris guys W's in the chat for Christopher Murphy
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Brian Atlaswith the big $200 Super Chat thank you so much man appreciate it uh next we'll do the next one go ahead men shouldn't vote just make them
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Ebonyslaves so they can send all their money to me yeah I think that I think that you know men voting is why we're in this predicament now unfortunately what predicament what's the predicament we have this predicament Trump is removing
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Ebonythe Constitution off yes he did and he's focusing on trans people like we're not literally in a economic recession right now what like
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Brian Atlasrecession we're in a recession and he's focusing on attacking trans people are we not anymore are you talking about the executive order today about the like ban or maybe it was yesterday like uh
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EbonyBanning the transgender people from the military stuff like that he's also been doing other stuff why is that wrong I mean because why like let trans people do exactly
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Brian Atlaswhat everyone else does okay but do trans people need like ongoing Perpetual medical intervention no I don't think so they don't need hormones constantly do they need surgical
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Brian Atlasprocedures do you think it's the military's job to give trans people surgical procedures like giving a I don't think they male fake hit on that by the way I don't think they need
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Brian Atlassurgical procedures I think but they need the hormones right yeah okay do you think in like a battlefield situation that we should like be giving uh
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Ebonyestrogen hormones to male combatants regular male as in like trans men no male as in well transgender women yeah I mean why not I think like are we
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Brian Atlasgoing to stop people with mental health issues from being in the military is if the if the I guess the conservative position on this is that they view this as a mental illness issue
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Brian Atlasthen the military frequently precludes people with mental illness from being able to serve in the military okay and so and not only is it Mental Illness but if it requires constant medication which
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Brian Atlascomes at the expense of the military this has this has nothing to do with making the military an effective offensive or defensive Force well then I guess if it's coming from that perspective it's like the
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Ebonymedication thing then I guess so I could see I could see that but it's just the other stuff of like oh well we're not going to recognize their identity and stuff I don't think that's important at all what does it mean to he like there's
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Ebonyonly going to be two genders recognized in this country like man and woman Shelby says because yeah there is and that's why a trans man is a a a man and a trans woman is a woman their gender
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Deareveal when they were being born they were either a boy or a girl M so do you think that when a a woman transitions to be a man or when a man transitions to be
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Deaa woman she or he is completely equal to this sex that they have transitioned to like do you think there's any distinguishable characteristics between a biological female and a trans female
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Ebonyor a biological male and a trans male sure there are some biological differences but I think as long as like they're on the hormones and like um they're doing the surgeries like over time um like are you talking about the