02:49:24Brian Atlaslike so you're saying that women say you're so just to be clear you're going to throw women under under the bus who are perhaps not developed in the breast or the butt or aren't curvy you're going to say that they're basically one that they aren't deserving of like a
02:49:37Ebonyrelationship or the men that are attracted to them are PDF files really that's literally what you're saying if that's what he's specifically attracted to if he's attracted to that look and if he thought that cuz a lot of times like
02:49:49EbonyI I've met I've you know worked with people and like I've worked with this one woman she L she was like 27 but she looked like she was 19 but if you're attracted to short women say a guy likes
02:50:00Brian Atlasshort women you can't just say oh you're a PDF file because you like short women liter are younger people are usually so you're fig wait wait so you're figuratively I think this is a fair a
02:50:11Andrew Wilsonfair analogy let me let me just ask you a single question are you saying then that it's immoral for men who are attracted to those women to date them yeah like I would not date a man
02:50:24Andrew Wilsonwho looks like a teenager was a grown woman so so it's actually to you hang on so so men who are in relationships with women who love them who look like this
02:50:36Andrew Wilsonphenotypical expression that you're talking about should the man should leave because he's doing something wrong right no I don't think he should leave I just don't think men should be attracted to that in the first place like then
02:50:47Ebonyit's not immortal it it is immoral to be attracted to that is it immoral if you're telling them not to leave because again like I don't know how this relationship arises she's
02:50:58Andrew Wilsonactually of age for all I know you know he could have she's 30 years old but she just has the phenotypical expression that you would consider to be childlike and he's attracted to that is he and her doing something
02:51:13Ebonyimmoral I think are they doing something immoral yes or no are they doing something immoral I think that the man is immoral for being attracted to that and seeking out that phenotype in the
02:51:24Andrew Wilsonfirst place okay but they're together now is he doing something immoral by being with her no because he now he knows her so what you're saying is that PDF files as long as they're with the
02:51:36Ebonyperson who loves them aren't immoral that's because he knows this woman he knows how brilliant can you let me speak can you please let me speak he knows how old she is now speak you dug your he knows how
02:51:47Ebonyold she is she knows her her mindset and her level of maturity now like it's it's a relationship and I'm talking about like for example the example I was trying to give where I was working with this woman who was 27 but she looked like she was 19 and she gets approached
02:52:00Ebonyby a men and they're like how old are you like while she looks like a teenager and they're like oh she's like oh I'm 27 and they're like Oh I thought you were like 19 I like why I'm sorry you're over
02:52:10Andrew Wilsonhere doing bi apologetics you're over here saying that men who are with women who look like this phenotype are themselves PDF files and should stay in
02:52:20Brian Atlasthose PDF file Rel a ped you are a PDF file stop apologizing for PDF files oh my God okay I'm can yeah can we get some more input from the other girls on the
02:52:33Brian Atlaspanel like if they agree or if they think the same thing yeah we we'll like open it up on the age Gap thing I do want to continue just a little bit here I mean I'm just I'm really confused because so you know Sophie rain I'm sure
02:52:44Brian Atlasyou know who she is yeah right okay so this is a woman who's fairly curvy big butt I don't know if is she she got some cans some I know she's like 19 but I
02:52:56Brian Atlasthink she started doing like uh Social Media stuff o maybe at 18 I think she's 19 now um putting aside the fact that she's a sex worker strumpet uh you're
02:53:06Brian Atlasgoing to tell me that she's like she would fit the phenotype of an older woman so you would prefer men dating her even though she's 19 but she has like a
02:53:16Brian Atlasmore developed figure versus like a 35-year-old man versus a 35-year-old man dating like a 30-year-old woman who's perhaps like not as you know maybe her breast aren't as large her butt's not as
02:53:27Ebonylarge she's not as curvy you think that I'm just trying to understand the logic no I think Sophie rain looks like younger than what she actually is like in the face she looks 14 her body is
02:53:39Brian Atlasgrown her body is grown but her face looks young but she looks she's 20 I believe she she looks her age I don't know what you're talking she's 20 actually and um okay she's 20 fine I
02:53:49Ebonymean what do you so which one I'm just which one is worse in your in your world like for example Jenna Jenna Ora I think is her name the Hispanic girl who did the
02:54:01Brian Atlasgothic R Wednesday W so just to be clear you're Gat keeping like like if a woman just what if I mean that's just her genetics she's just you know I'm not saying she's ugly I'm not saying any of
02:54:13Ebonythat but if a man is attracted to that specific phenotype and that's what he usually goes for then that would probably be signs of even if she's 30 years old hold be clear again I'm not
02:54:25Brian Atlasgoing to date a man who 30 years old but looks like he's 17 doing I have a question for you so when it comes to like do you agree that like when it comes to Childhood nutrition like that's going to have an impact on your development and there's some countries
02:54:37Brian Atlasthat have like hold on hold on there's some countries that have like worse childhood nutrition you'd agree with that and so this is going to have an impact on uh you know like perhaps how
02:54:47Brian Atlasthey develop right maybe stop stop stop hold on okay so just to be clear I want you to make an a statement that men who find women who live in certain countries who
02:55:00Brian Atlasperhaps these are developing countries the third world countries men who are attract men in those countries who find that body type attractive because hey perhaps there's not uh good nutrition
02:55:11Brian Atlaswhatever that these men across the board in these countries who are not welldeveloped they PDF files in this country they are not PDF files but they on if they're attracted to that
02:55:23Brian Atlasspecifically then yes they are what if the what if the majority of the adult women then you're not a ped what if the majority of the W the women in those specific countries have that phenotype
02:55:34Brian Atlasare the men P PDF files I mean no as long as those women are of age can I ask yes they yes they are of age they're adult women about but
02:55:47Ebonythey're attracted to phenotype which you said indicates that these men are PDF files I think that you know if that's what their specific type is and that's what attracts them then yeah okay so there there are certain Asian countries
02:55:59Brian Atlasthat I can think of where like these are developing countries and because of this like the childhood and you know throughout the their teenage years the nutrition isn't necessarily there this is going to perhaps have an impact on you know their bodily development you
02:56:12Brian Atlasknow when it comes to for example height height in these countries is lower because it comes down to nutrition right so are these men who live in these countries are they PDF files no because they're dating and we
02:56:25Brian Atlascan say this about Latin America we could say certain Latin American countries we could say this hold on we could hold on we could say this about certain countries in Africa I just want you to say that the men in these
02:56:35Brian Atlascountries are PDF files go ahead no they're adult women what about runway model okay so then what's the problem what's the problem with an adult man dating an adult woman
02:56:47Ebonywho and this woman H happens to have the phenotype which you think is not developed enough it's if you L again so again with the actress Jenna Ortega right she literally looks like she's 14
02:57:00Brian Atlasbut she's like I like how old is she I think she's like 23 yeah I don't know but like who who are you to dictate what a woman is I'm now you're gaslighting me I'm not saying
02:57:11Brian Atlaswhat a woman is saying that that like I'm just trying to understand like so a woman with with small breasts for example an a beup you don't think she's like deserving of love because of her body type I mean that's kind of what you're getting at because the people
02:57:24TTS/Donationsthat would be more likely to be attracted her prated $200 ask women to open a pickle jar and we already did I don't know how that got I don't even did she opened it I have a
02:57:36Brian Atlasquestion hold on one sec one sec it's just like you're you're basically these like if a woman has an A cup or a b cup one you're just the are
02:57:48Brian Atlasattracted to her it's not about our body type it's about her face you said phenotype yeah phenotype includes the face can we talk about it's not just about like women who are flat chest so okay just to be clear so you'd be okay
02:58:01Ebonylet's say there's a 14-year-old who looks like she's 25 you're okay with like men being attracted to if he's attracted to that girl then he's attracted to what a girl but if he finds out her age and he then that would be pedophilia yes I you're doing some crazy
02:58:14Andrew Wilsonapologetics she looks like a grown woman and he's attracted to the way this is consistent what she's saying is consistent so she's saying this okay and let me just steal man it you could tell me if I get your position wrong she's
02:58:26Andrew Wilsonsaying if a man is attracted to a phenotype which looks adolescent then he's a PDF file that's what you're saying so you're saying that if a man was attracted to though to an adolescent
02:58:38Andrew Wilsonwho um had the development of like a 25-year-old so he wouldn't know so he is not a PDF file right if he didn't know her attracted to the way she looks then
02:58:49Andrew Wilsonno that would not be pedophilic right so so I'm correct right ex I steal man your position correctly yeah okay so I just have one quick question for you do you agree with me and do you agree with
02:59:01Andrew WilsonBrian and and the men here and I'm sure every woman here that if a man were engaged it w with a woman okay who uh
02:59:10Andrew Wilsonhad you know he found out was in that age bracket he didn't know before um that that he should leave immediately even even if she had those same phenotypical adolescent she she like
02:59:22Andrew Wilsonphenotypically looked adolescent but he thought she was 25 or whatever he should get away immediately if she is actually underage right he's doing something wrong yeah okay great but if the same
02:59:33Andrew Wilsonman was engaged with a woman who phenotypically had that expression who was 25 you say he should stay how's that not pedophil or PDF file apologia can you explain that to me wait cuz what
02:59:45Andrew Wilsonyou're saying is you're saying if you are a PDF file and you're engaging in this activity you should stop immediately and then you hold a double standard for the same man who's engaging
02:59:56Andrew Wilsonin that same nature of activity by your own admission so you're apologizing for the PDF file there's no way around it no
03:00:06Andrew Wilsonbecause that woman would actually be of age yeah but but he's attracted to that phenotype which means he's a PDF by your own admission and if you're saying he
03:00:17Ebonyshould stay with then that means you're doing PDF apologia okay yeah sure actually I can get behind that yeah he would be so you are PDF apologist thank you
03:00:29Andrew Wilsonthank you how am I a PF apologist though it's not actually pedophilia if she's a v you just you you literally just said that if he's attracted to that phenotype
03:00:40Andrew Wilsonhe's a PDF if you didn't say they should stay together cuz they love each other because they're both of age then you are saying that this p PDF right should be with this woman even though he's a PDF
03:00:51Andrew Wilsonyou're your it's PDF apologia you're saying that as long as you're tracked that phenotype and the chick still likes you it's fine yeah no then but okay so he should leave her
03:01:03Andrew Wilsonthen right I don't think he should leave her oh well then I guess I just think he would be he would be a weird person like why do you want this PDF to be with this woman what sort of monster are you
03:01:15Andrew Wilsonbecause if he was a PDF he would actually be with a child oh wait a second so now we have a distinction don't we so now you have said now that a
03:01:25Andrew WilsonPDF actually is not a person attracted to this phenotype it's a person who's with a child so you just switch your argument that's it it's over it's done
03:01:36Ebonynow we have a clear distinction as to what you actually consider a PDF to be yeah again so again if he's initially attracted to this phenotype that would
03:01:46Ebonymake him a pedoph a pedo file but if he's already in the relationship and he he this woman is grown she has a grown mentality she's he knows her real age then no it wouldn't be pedophilia why
03:01:58Ebonywould you want her to be around PDF file what mean what are you talking
03:02:08Andrew Wilsonabout he's if he's attracted to that phenotype he's a pedf file right yeah and she should stally attracted to that and she should stay with him cuz loves him why wouldn't you demand that she get
03:02:19Andrew Wilsonaway from the PDF file I mean I probably would if he was specifically attractive now you would now you would now you would it's like it's like a to toothpaste I squeeze no
03:02:32Andrew Wilsonbecause I didn't understand what you were saying before but I get what you're saying I I just you see how you see how silly this is totally silly makes no sense it does it absolutely does if you're attracted to a woman who looks
03:02:43Andrew Wilsonlike a child you're probably a pedophile I tell you I bet you this job is really good on paper until you thought about it for 2 seconds like it makes no sense you're actually advocating that this woman stay with a person you consider to
03:02:55Andrew Wilsonbe a PDF file which is PDF file apologia do you get it now I don't know wait hold on are do you believe in like body positivity yeah to say that okay that's
03:03:05Brian Atlasfine but I mean why why are you gate gatekeeping like what an adult woman looks like like you do realize women come in different shapes and sizes not gatekeeping you're literally Gat you're
03:03:15Brian Atlassay you're telling us weit as a man if you're not attracted to a a curvy woman with large Bo I never made any specific statements to the phenotype I'm just saying if you look at someone and they
03:03:26Meccalook like a kid they look like I have a 12-year-old niece she's taller than me she has big boob like big butt I'm 25
03:03:33MeccaI've been 5'4 120 be cup no since I was 15 so my 12-year-old not talking about the body type I understand women can have flatter chest women can have to
03:03:46Deamean I'm smaller how does that him like that's just preference I believe right and and when I was doing Runway modeling right and I was literally like narrow like I did not have any curves on my body any guy that was attracted that is
03:03:57Deaa body type you're talking about I had a literal small so now that I have a man is allowed to date me but before when I was doing Runway a man wasn't allowed to date me like that doesn't make sense to
03:04:09Deame yes like a man shouldn't be attracted to a child but having boobs or having a butt does not make you a woman that's not what I said that's exactly you keep putting words in my mouth I never said
03:04:19Brian Atlasanything I never said anything about boobs I I asked you about curves I asked you about boobs I asked you about butt I never said anything to that yes you indicated towards women who have smaller
03:04:29Brian Atlasbreasts smaller butt L curv children huh women who look like children well that me people like 15 all the time and when I was doing Runway people thought that I was like 14 look I'm just saying I feel
03:04:41Brian Atlaslike women already struggle enough when it comes to like body image issue stuff and like now you're trying to add on some extra shut interrup so now you're adding on
03:04:52Brian Atlasanother layer here where like women who do have this phenotype now need to all of a sudden be concerned oh is this guy I really like this guy he really likes me is he a PDF file do you realize how
03:05:04Brian Atlascrazy that is a woman with a cup or B- cup breast oh I is she a PDF that's literally what you're advocating for women already struggl enough with that [ __ ] why why you a baby face like for
03:05:15Brian Atlasexample Sophia R okay baby face rain we were talking about she looks like a kid even though she has a curvy body okay so so it would be wrong for me to be attracted to her that would be PDF yeah that that brings up a whole different
03:05:28Brian Atlascan that's more complicated because her her body looks grown commit to the position is PF am I a PDF if I'm attracted which come onit to the position no because she doesn't look like she's
03:05:39Brian Atlas14 you said in the face that she looks like how about he just saw her face he never saw her body then yeah but no but knows that she's 20 but never seen her
03:05:49Brian Atlasface just or excuse me never seen her body just her face but he knows she's 20 is he a PDF F Well if he knows he's 20 then well help me help me out with this
03:06:01Andrew Wilsonif he didn't know then I would say yeah I just I'm just I'm just very curious this last question just a just a yes or no here uh would be appropriate uh but she can respond long for if you need to
03:06:13Andrew WilsonI'm just curious these women who do have these phenotypical Expressions that you say and men who are attracted to those phenotypical expressions or PDF files would that not entail then that that woman should only be with men who aren't
03:06:26Andrew Wilsonattracted to her no she should just be with men well I don't understand how could she be with a man who was attracted to her unless
03:06:35Brian Atlasthat man was a PDF file I just think that probably oh my God damn bro I got to come to the defense of like women with small titties bro you're you're doing a lot you're
03:06:47Andrew Wilsonyou're throwing a lot of shade at like small titty women bro come on that's crazy p a little respect p a little respect on the the the small Titty Committee can I an answer hang on can I please get an answer yeah can you get an
03:06:58Ebonyanswer How could a woman who had those phenotypical expressions have a man who's attracted to her and that man not be a PDF file can you explain that to me a man who knows her age a man who no no
03:07:11Andrew Wilsonhe doesn't know get to know her through her personality no no he doesn't know her age okay he's attracted to her okay he assumes that she's overage right but he's attracted to her the based on those
03:07:23Andrew Wilsonthose phenotypes specifically he's attracted to her wouldn't all men who approached her have to do it based on the fact they're not and even you know what even
03:07:33Andrew Wilsonbetter even if they knew her age right but were just attracted to that phenotype right you would still have to concede here that this woman could not
03:07:44Andrew Wilsonbe with any men who were attracted to her based on her fenotype because they would be PDF files therefore no men who were attracted to her could actually be
03:07:54Ebonywith her right I see what you're saying there can you answer I'm not going to like I'm not I'm
03:08:04EbonyI'm agnostic on thatz I'm not going to say I'm not going to say that [ __ ] be women shouldn't find in love with men who are of their age just because they
03:08:14Brian Atlaslook younger I'm not going to say that okay I'm on that how about this that's right whatever bro uh he had a BL and
03:08:25Brian Atlasget a beer um wait how about this so what about women who are attracted to tall men I think that this is actually
03:08:33Brian Atlasevidence of of uh not not the PDF stuff but it's actually evidence of of incestuous what how are you going to
03:08:44Brian Atlasconnect that here you go this is this is the same this is the same like totally bogus uh toaster brain logic so because you as a woman when you were young you looked up at your father and you like
03:08:56Brian Atlasadmired your father cuz he was so he so tall that's that's why you're attracted to tall men is because you look and you're you women who are attracted to tall men are all incop phobes we're
03:09:07Ebonygetting into some Sigman Freud [ __ ] right a on average men are taller than women so that would explain like I see what you trying I see what
03:09:18Brian Atlaslike anyways whatever sorry Brian didn't work is that a dad joke uh we have Mustafa I thought you idiots were quitting this stupid joke of a podcast here's some dollars using to
03:09:31Brian Atlasget a real job all right you're right man I'm going to become a uh a power line guy or something uh I do also need to do some shout outs here for uh we
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03:09:53Brian Atlasright let's H get into this here we're going to have Stiffler come in here with a question Stiffler ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10 you can't pick seven starting with uh starting you know
03:10:05Ebonywhat hold on I'm going to go a bit out of order here starting with you I mean I would pick seven but I guess I'd say eight you can okay uh
03:10:16Brian Atlasgoing back to Michaela and then back I would say 10 10 okay six six all right wow nine all right 10 10 okay I would
03:10:27Samsonsay seven but six all right I think I'm 10 10 okay I'd give myself an eight all right on camera I look like a inbred
03:10:37Samsonfive but in real life I'm a nine wait sorry wait I I missed that last part the
03:10:45Samsonthe an inbre five on camera no no no the the the last part I think I'm on um an eight I'll go that I see more okay we'll go with what do you what do you give
03:10:56Brian Atlasyourself I stick with a consistent eight I give myself a five Andrew what about you I'm clearly a
03:11:06Andrew Wilson10 I no Andrew wait wait why are you laughing you don't believe that not without the beard Andrew need the beard theard you don't believe I'm a 10
03:11:16Andrew Wilsonwithout it's not just a subjective value it's not just how I feel that makes me beautiful there's something else that
03:11:28Deamakes me beautiful other than that what would that what those things be my opinion are are you asking you know from your Viewpoint are you a 10 or are you asking from the view of society would you be considered a 10 cuz that's that's
03:11:41Andrew Wilsonwhat the heart of the question is do you think that we care about the opinion of but well first of all most people are going to lie about this right so the thing is is uh yeah we're asking you from The Observer standpoint what do you
03:11:53Deathink the Observer if there was 100 men who all raided you what would it average out to what would the average be for me personally yeah I mean I I don't wear makeup or anything to alter my
03:12:05Deaappearance more towards a higher end of the scale so I don't know if that's something to take into consideration but with that said I would say that I would be considered around an eight just from
03:12:16Deawhat people people have told me in the past and that's you know just what I've then I'm a 10 okay you can be a 10 then I think that what I don't understand why are you laughing because I don't know what people have raided you I'm not
03:12:29Andrew Wilsongoing to it sounds like you don't believe me okay it sounds like you don't think that looks are the most important you think that maybe I'm wait you think I'm
03:12:39Andrew Wilsondelusional you think do you think that I think you are delusional from this podcast thing I think myself in my head isn't true you know I I think that looks
03:12:51Deaaren't the most important thing but that's not what I asked you I understand what you're asking me and from my perspective you are not my version of a 10 so I can't speak for other people I'm not in their brains but from my
03:13:03Andrew Wilsonperspective you're not a tenant yeah I'm not asking you from your perspective I'm asking you from the average woman if if a 100 average women raided me clearly they put me out of 10 right I can't speak for the average woman because I do
03:13:15Andrew Wilsonnot have the mind asking speak for I'm asking what you think okay so you are asking my me my opinion on how I would rate you then I can't speak how you think other women would rap me so you say are you saying that that's still
03:13:27Andrew Wilsonfrom my opinion though that that's what I would believe you would be rated that doesn't make any if I intricately don't logic isn't there how all other people feel about being murdered I can't make the general statement that they won't
03:13:39Dealike it see so that's something that's a moralistic your looks are not a moral stop stop stop before you start sping out would like you to answer directly
03:13:49Andrew Wilsonthe question I'm asking do you think that I could not assess that most people in the world would not want to be murdered even though I'm not most people in the world that is a moral view can
03:14:01Deayou answer the question I am answering your question I'm just not answering it how you'd like that doesn't mean I'm not answer you just won't answer it period okay so what give me a what is it is it
03:14:11Andrew Wilsona yes or no because if so give me a yes or yes or no can I assess that or not repeat your question explicitly yeah if I say I don't think most people in the world want to be murdered right can is
03:14:24Deathat a fair assessment even though I'm not most people in the world yes but that is a more the reason for that wait stop hold up but let me explain the reason for that the reason before behind
03:14:34Deathat is that that is a moralistic view that is taking someone's life your looks have nothing to do with whether or not someone wants to be murdered that is taking their life right so your looks
03:14:46Andrew Wilsonare not something that I can objectively say I don't know how people in India would rate you I have my views from myp people's morals you think I objectively know their morals no I don't
03:14:57Andrew Wilsonobjectively know their morals I'm saying from my standpoint I think most other people would not want to be murdered and I think that that's what all of them think I could make value assessments on what I think other people would think
03:15:09Andrew Wilsoneven though I'm not other people you can do the exact same thing you can say I think most people would say like oh I don't know uh person who came out of the IU with half of their face melted off and a bone sticking out of their head
03:15:21Andrew Wilsonand most of their bones missing most people wouldn't find them attractive okay so do something parallel do something actually say that and that would be fine right but do something parallel say like um the you know the
03:15:32Deaaverage person would rate insert celebrities name at this level like that's a parallel somebody dying or being killed is not parallel to your looks and how people would view you I can't say well wait a second then how
03:15:44Andrew Wilsoncome I can say with great certainty that a person with half their face melted off who was missing most of their bones and you know they had scars all over the place and uh when when most people saw them that was the type of person you went oh my God right I can make the
03:15:57Andrew Wilsonvalue assessment that most people would find that unattractive but you're saying that I can't make the determination of what most people would find attractive I think that that's silly and by the way you yourself already gave us many
03:16:08Andrew Wilsonstandards you said earlier in this uh conversation for instance that you think that most men are attracted to women between the ages of X and X no I I didn't say I believe that that is a
03:16:18Deascientific study I also studied Psy in school so 21 to 23 that that's saying that that's their Peak attractiveness looking at them throughout the lifespan versus those women must share certain
03:16:30Andrew Wilsoncharacteristics with each other in this case youth you so youthful youthfulness that's women not men unless you identify as a woman I can't rate you based off of that no you can because we have in that
03:16:41Deasame study what what most women find attractive don't we no so that actually the same age it don't we right right so to me again so that makes it it makes it my personal opinion because I am of a
03:16:52Deacertain age now if I was of another age let's say I was a 50-year-old woman like I don't know however old your wife is then I might find you more attractive at that age than a younger woman looking at
03:17:03Deayou because it's a different age bracket women they integrate with age men just stay the same they they find 21 to 23 the most attractive throughout all age groups women most people would think
03:17:15Andrew Wilsonokay here do you think most people would think a Tyrannosaurus Rex was big how does that have to do can you answer my question do you think most people would think a Tyrannosaurus Rex
03:17:26Andrew Wilsonwas big yes how are you making that value assessment you don't have any data for it whatsoever there's not a single study you've read where people were pulled about whether or not a Tyrannosaurus Rex is big hang on hang on
03:17:38Andrew Wilsonstop stop let me finish this is illogical stop stop there's not anything you have to base that on other than you have an assessment and you think most people would agree
03:17:49Andrew Wilsonwith this assessment and you think most people would think X but for some reason you can't apply that same standard here tell me why because that is in again a comparison between a large group of people right just like you were saying a
03:18:01Dealarge group of people would not want to be murdered yes that is an easy thing to understand a large group of people who are average in height would be much smaller than a T-Rex it doesn't even matter if you're the tallest human being you're going to be smaller than a T-Rex
03:18:14Andrew Wilsonso that is something that can be seen from an objective SC now subjectively I can tell you how objetive big isn't objective big is subjective what is Big to you is not big to me we can make the value assessment
03:18:26Andrew Wilsonof what most people you don't have any data to prove what most people would find to be big you just make the value assessment for some reason though you can't say what most people you think what most people would find attractive even though you yourself in this case
03:18:38Andrew Wilsonactually have data for it which would be youth they men are attracted to youth if that's the case there going be all sorts of shared features okay I I can speak from my age bracket for me yes that
03:18:50Deawould be something where you can make it more objective of women my age bracket would not find a man as your age as attractive as a man within the four years that they are in whe whe whether
03:19:01Deait's 21 whether it's 26 it doesn't matter like they are going to find somebody more attractive that is within their age bracket it's scientifically proven now I cannot tell you whether can make value assessments on behalf of
03:19:12Andrew Wilsonother people look at that within my age bracket that is that is well I mean whatever I when I say most women right beautiful you can make an association
03:19:23Andrew Wilsonbetween all women in the 20s 30s 40s 50s and 60s and still in your head over some type of General average you think would be reasonable so if I say I'm a 10 you say well for me you're not 10 for me you're not a 10 and I say well what do
03:19:36Andrew Wilsonyou think most people that's a great impression of my voice thank you so much I say what what do you think most people would think well I'm sorry I you're right it was a bad impression what do you think most people would think yeah
03:19:47Andrew Wilsonyeah I appreciate that now I'm that better for you so what what do you think most people would think most I think most people would think from no you you didn't even have to do the impression I already nailed it thank you I already nailed it like you didn't even have to
03:20:00Andrew Wilsonyou know it's funny cuz we were having a discussion earlier and you were being very kind but after that last discussion you've gotten a lot more aggressive because people don't like to answer direct questions they like to do what they do is they do what in your boat you
03:20:12Andrew Wilsonwould call like a motorboat right where it it goes like this it goes everywhere except straight because you have waves this you have yeah yeah yeah so what happens is
03:20:24Andrew Wilsonyou ever tried to drive a motorboat before yes I have you can't keep it straight on the water not when there's waves and so the thing is is like what's going on here is the same thing when I ask you a direct question you office gate you go to everything except
03:20:35Deaanswering the question and I don't do that to you so yes it's frustrating for me I answered in a subjective way I cannot answer objectively I have not
03:20:46Deadone a poll of these women the data that I'm basing my claims off off of are thousands of women and thousands of men I cannot objectively create a poll of you are maybe if I did that on social
03:20:58Deamedia we could see how asking from your subjective metric what you think most women would think subjective okay so so that's different that's different that that's not orig that not what you originally said and if if it was then we miscommunicated and I apologize for my
03:21:11Andrew Wilsonside of that so anyway so that's my question okay so so what would I rate you that's your question then you think most women from your subjective metric would rate me okay from my subjective metric I would give you a five and
03:21:22Deathat's also if we talk about how you've been berating women I'd give you a four because personality increas what does that have to do with my looks it's it's in the expression on your face nothing has nothing to do with yes it does
03:21:34Deanothing yes it does self-respect and respect towards others does have to do I had never spoken I had never spoken right you never you spoken this whole time
03:21:47Deahow hold on hold on hold on how can it be that the value assessment of looks goes up if a person has never said a word no no no if somebody is a kind human being and they have a good personality that automatically increases
03:21:59Andrew Wilsontheir points it's that's literally proven Charisma that have to do with anything about looks looks how you look it shows on your face what type of personality you have what does it have
03:22:12Brian Atlasto do with how person [ __ ] how you hold your face it's facial Muses talking to a what does it have to do with how a person looks Andrew now you're a three okay you're losing points all right are
03:22:24Brian Atlaswe going to get into the negatives wait so I'm I'm just a little bit confused though you made a statement about how oh but because he's been bombarding that's not the exact word to use bombarding these women so wait just
03:22:36Deato be clear he simply he's been disagreeing with people yeah yeah he's been pretty no but but this I mean so the original conversation I will say you were very kind and and it started off it
03:22:48Deawas positive but then by the end of it you were very impolite and not allowing anybody to actually say so I don't consider politeness or nor do I consider niess to be a virtue okay that's fine so
03:23:00Andrew Wilsonit was my subjective view on your looks and I I that into to be virtuous if you were a man we're just going to keep going there's not going to be a solution I love equality am I allowed to
03:23:11Andrew Wilsontalk back or no yes sir so Mrs Mrs I love equality if you're a manting right they talk to you exactly the same and the only difference is is you wouldn't care cuz you'd actually answer mying
03:23:24Andrew Wilsonquestions okay good talk honestly yeah let's end this conversation all what I'm saying you want chivalry a good so I'm going to
03:23:36Brian Atlasread a chat but I have a follow-up thing on this Lucas actually you know what Michaela go for it me yeah if you can read
03:23:44Michaela Quanit and yet again an Amal gam of vapid ineptitude combined with diluted and unearned High self-esteem okay bubble bursting time each and every one of you
03:23:56Brian Atlasranks as nothing more than a mediocre wow all right Luc is coming in hot well we did have a 10 a nine a 10 and a 10 uh so pretty high you know I'm a pretty
03:24:07Andrew Wilsongood casting director getting like the most beautiful women job Brian I'm I'm good um uh the most gorgeous the most gorgeous in the world you always find right here on whatever all you ever have
03:24:18Andrew Wilsonto do you know what I need I need some more you know maybe I'll hire somebody I mean we need some background characters you know so we'll see um but you do have one man here who's a 10 so I mean that is the standard all other men are held
03:24:30Brian AtlasAndrew that is true I mean to be fair Andrew you without the beard I downgrade you to a nine from a 10 that's what I was saying you need to get the beard back okay all right just saying this is
03:24:39Andrew Wilsonan absolutely bias opinion I will not have of be assaulted this way by you Brian all right I apologize I'm sorry um well wait a second hang on now well now I'm being
03:24:51Andrew Wilsonmean again right that's that's me being mean and I saw tone police Miss tone police back there shaking her head look I'm sorry tone police I'm sorry I made a
03:25:03Brian Atlasjoke it's okay calm down we do have a message from uh we got a message from Rachel Wilson Andrew Wilson's wife when Andrew find oh we should do a Rachel Wilson Cameo uh when Andrew finally loses his cool a bit after 3 hours of
03:25:15Brian Atlastrying to get you to answer a simple question in a straightforward way you accuse him of being difficult while no self-awareness that's from Rachel Wilson Andrew Wilson's wife maybe maybe a cameo later Andrew yeah you know that's the
03:25:27Andrew Wilsonthing that gets me right is like I actually hold uh you women to your same standard right so I literally hold you to your same standard I agree with you that you deserve to be treated with
03:25:39Andrew Wilsonrespect so what I want to do is ask you straightforward questions and get straightforward answers and I'll do the exact same to you there how I communicate with every man on planet
03:25:48Andrew WilsonEarth for reasons I don't understand immediately if the hey is this true goes well it could be based on it's like no you don't believe any of that [ __ ] just
03:25:59Andrew Wilsongive me the actual answer uh somehow that's not being nice or that's not being polite yet when I talk to men this problem doesn't exist it's almost like there's a standard which they're holding that they think women should be held to
03:26:11Brian Atlasas opposed to standards men should be held to which is why I don't believe in this equality [ __ ] I don't believe it I just don't believe him personally what I do want to uh get into here is uh there
03:26:23Brian Atlasare a couple couple tens at the table do you guys think those of you who ranked yourself a 10 and we did have one nine so the nine gets to jump into uh do you
03:26:31Shelby Claytonguys think that all women are tens no no what into the mics guys no no
03:26:41Brian Atlasno okay that's good anybody does anybody think all women are tens anybody going once going twice can you point it okay can you
03:26:52Andrew Wilsonpoint at any woman at the table Ashley who's not a
03:27:02Andrew Wilson10 any woman at the table who's not a 10 go ahead and point at her just any anyone will do just just a single one would be
03:27:12Brandon Clarkokay no it's fine just just one [Laughter] yeah I'm going to go get another beer all right my God we don't want to be held to
03:27:25Brian Atlasa different standard oh God uh we're going to do a follow-up question on this so do you think some of you said 10 nine
03:27:35Brian Atlasso you're very attractive right now um but moving into the future uh do you think you will be better looking better looking in 10 years time Michaela you're
03:27:46Brian Atlas22 uh do you think you'll be better looking 10 years time at 32 um yeah okay what about 20 years time
03:27:55Brian Atlas42 yeah okay 30 years time 52 better looking yeah I don't know I feel like I'm
03:28:05Brian Atlasjust uh 40 sure 40 years time 62 um yeah sure uh 50 years time 72 yeah
03:28:18Brian AtlasCH some milk okay uh 60 years time 82 yeah 70 years time
03:28:30Brian Atlas92 80 years time 102 yeah I'm still alive no you're still yeah I know you're still alive are you are you more attrative when's your Peak when are you going to peek Mich um like
03:28:42Brian Atlasattractive as in like my physically like look look better yeah she just walked all the way up to 100 she's going to be hot she she's going to be hot that's
03:28:52Michaela Quanfantastic like in the nursing home just like macking on the Alzheimer not like attractive as in like like so there's no personality in it at all or like no better
03:29:04Michaela Quanlooking looks when's your Peak like 72 or I [Music] don't maybe 30
03:29:16Brian Atlas30 okay so backtracked a little bit a little little backtrack just little 70y year backtrack all right 30 years old all right you're 20 uh better looking in 10 years time at 30 no maybe like 5 years but not 10 okay all right uh
03:29:29Ebonyyou're 20 years old better looking in 10 years time at 30 yeah probably I probably have some plastic surgery by then what if you didn't have the plastic surgery still better looking probably not okay let's but
03:29:42Brian Atlaswe'll keep with the plastic surgery 20 years time at 40 I'll still look but I won't look better probably not yeah just just clarification um you can still be
03:29:52Brian Atlasattractive 30 4050 you know uh that's not what I'm saying there's plenty of women tracked but it's like a comparison to how you look now versus 10 years 20
03:30:02Brian Atlasyears 30 years you'll be better looking um so 20 years time at 40 yes no no okay uh your 23 Shelby better looking in 10
03:30:12Brian Atlasyears time at 33 yeah better looking in 20 years time 43 no okay you're 20 years old better looking in 10 years time at 30 yeah better look 20 years time 40
03:30:23Brian Atlasyeah 30 years but that's like it like 40 I feel like right there okay yeah got it uh 40 better than 30 or 30 better than
03:30:33Brian Atlas40 30 better than 40 okay but 40 still better than 20 no actually no let me go back 40 40 sorry wait oh 40 okay but
03:30:44Brian Atlasthen not 50 though no okay all right you're TW uh you're wait hold on you're 33 sorry I got numbers mixed up you're 33 better looking in 10 years time at
03:30:54Brian Atlas43 probably not okay and you're 33 are you better looking now at 33 than you were at 23 yes okay uh you're 25 better
03:31:03Brian Atlaslooking in 10 years time at 35 yeah 20 years time 45 um probably not okay uh you're 21 better looking in 10 years
03:31:12Brian Atlastime at 31 yes but after 35 no okay is 35 the peak I I would think yeah by 35 I would start to be as attractive and then you are 28 better looking in 10 years
03:31:25Brian Atlastime at 38 no but milth energy still of mil all right and then uh you're 28 better looking uh 10 years ago
03:31:36Brian Atlasat 18 I'm better looking now better looking now but going to uh back to you uh you seem to acknowledge that uh you you decided to a St that they did where
03:31:47Deamen found women between I think you said is it 18 to 23 24 I know that contct yeah so so um on that personally I think that I right now am not as fit as I will
03:31:58Deabe at that age because I plan on circumnavigating so I'll be on my boat full-time I'll be fishing I'll be diving I'll be doing my own like work on the whole so I'll be a lot more fit since I'll be making all my own food I'll have
03:32:10Deato like Garden off the back of my boat and I just think that lifestyle I will be at the point where I'm going to be more attractive physically because it's such manual labor that I will have more muscle mass and I'll be more what about all the sun exposure exactly I was going
03:32:24Deato say I was like I also make my own sunblock so I'm fine right now you can see how white I am I mean even with sunblock there are going to be some like aging impact by 50 by 50 for sure that's why I said 35 like I think 35 that's
03:32:35Deaalso you have to realize like as women get older they start to lose muscle mass so that's something that I think will make me less attractive right your skin gets a little bit looser unless you do something to fix that and you lose
03:32:46Deamuscle mass so I am real about that and I think yeah once I you know start to age I'm not going to be as attractive after
03:32:55Brian Atlas35 okay all right uh uh Daman do we have how many batches do we have one or two you know what we we have we have
03:33:06Brian Atlasused technology to age all of you forward and we're going to review some photos and we're going to see you know do you you better looking some of you said I mean over here 1002 she's going
03:33:20Brian Atlasto be she's going to be sugar spice everything nice so um let's pull it up cute that's not bad okay that's
03:33:30Brian Atlasreally not bad you know what age is that supposed to be oh no CH some mil that's like 4050 maybe and you hey you said you're going to be like babe status till 100 something when I'm at the retirement
03:33:42Brian Atlashome I'll come find you all right all right there you go all right uh next wait hold on you you kind of became
03:33:54Brian AtlasWhite I don't know what like you look like a white woman I don't know what happened uh I mean I gu okay never mind uh next oh my God oh my God what the he
03:34:05Ebonyit's so bad what happened with the jaw on this go back go back too no it's it's racism it's racism there's no way I'm not going to look
03:34:16Brian Atlasdoesn't cck I'm not going to go back to Michaela uh so I'm going to have each of you uh pick uh more attractive younger
03:34:25Michaela Quanpicture or more attractive aged oh yeah my younger my younger more attrative okay next younger younger self more attractive here okay next I think
03:34:37Brian Atlaswhich one's more attractive oh my God younger yeah okay next okay wow look
03:34:47Brian Atlaslike a trailer part that actually looks realistic which one more attractive ouch no like that I I I think she's going to look better than that she's going to
03:34:58Shelby Claytonlook better but it looks real which one uh the younger one okay next these are all good hell no eer talk about how like photogenic
03:35:11Anaeverybody is everybody looks why do I look like no that gave me like muffin face like it looks like where did your jaw go there's something going on with the darker skinned women the jaw the jaw
03:35:22Anais not working it's not registering for some reason next God a she looks like a sweet you look like you make really good cookies I do make really good cookies still got that
03:35:35Dealesbian energy that is what I'm talking about next okay dang girl
03:35:46Deagirl that's actually not that's not bad I'm scared honestly which one's which one is do you think is more attractive um I think younger okay no next I don't want to see it yeah that was horrible
03:35:58Deawhat did it do to my that's not bad it's actually not even bad looks like you have Botox on your forehead uh yeah I just got a big for wait is there a difference no there's none actually
03:36:09Brian Atlaswhich one's there's a bit there's a bit man you have the best one so far all right I mean yeah okay surfer chick next oh you're so
03:36:22Brian Atlascute my n does she look a bit like Britney spars a little bit a little bit in I don't know okay and then next in college they
03:36:33Anawould scream let's see it oh my God you look like you look like the doctor off of anatomy
03:36:42Brandon ClarkSil that right there is MC oh my
03:36:47Brian AtlasGod there we got Andre next of course the natural aging process do you have do you have another batch or that
03:36:59Brian Atlaswas it okay che check if another one comes through but uh all right we have uh I'm gonna have uh Bella read this one go ahead Bella from Lucas thank you
03:37:09BellaLucas props Brian always bringing tens of caval caval of the face that LA or face that launched a thousand ships all
03:37:21Brian Atlashel of troyw come on you know how to say this you know the second oh circum there you go a too slow here I'll pull it back up
03:37:31DeaI'm literate uh looks like we got ourselves a snowflake for fand melland iting was going to circumnavigate roast
03:37:43Brian Atlaswhat is a fer is that and also isn't snowflake snowflake a liberal I guess a conservative could be a snowflake I think a snowflake Lucas W's in the chat
03:37:53Brian Atlasfor Lucas man someone who's EAS does anyone know who that is Ferdinand I learned about him I know who Helen of Troy is I need to do a couple
03:38:05Brian Atlasshout outs here super quick guys if you want to support without a cut being taken venmo cash app whatever pod uh Colin thank you for the 10 if you not doing the do you have any trade skills I
03:38:16Brian Atlasdon't Harrison Douglas thank you for the five on venmo fishing LOL yo thank you man appreciate it all right guys we are going to uh actually wait the whole wait hold on I have a I have a question
03:38:28Andrew Wilsonbefore you move on for it for the for the mail guest actually I was I've been kind of taking some notes um as you've been kind of issuing out some of your arguments one of the things you said I think I may take disagreement with you
03:38:41Brian Atlasbrought up that you think that young women should be attached to fin wait sorry one thing I got to I got to interrupt really quick I'll let you I'll
03:38:49Brian Atlaslet that conversation go Cano raided with a yo uh Cano I I know who you are man he's like a shredded like bodybuilder guy also I
03:39:01Brian Atlasthink he's plays World of Warcraft yo thank you so much for the raid man appreciate it um this guy's like a streamer OG uh really appreciate the raid dude I didn't know you watched the podcast thank you so much man uh we also
03:39:13Brian Atlasgot a bodybuilder here you wanna maybe you know him do you know Cano I I've never heard give him a double buy I can't even [ __ ] bro oh my bro yo uh
03:39:24Brian Atlasthank you so much for the raid man we're actually um we are talking about uh nothing to do with bodybuilding or World of Warcraft all right I don't know what he is he yo uh hold on I'll
03:39:36Brian Atlaspull up the twitch chat what what was he streaming uh the Raiders from K am I first off Cano am I saying his name right am I saying his name right let me
03:39:46Brian Atlasdo a shout out shout out uh can what was he streaming uh twitch
03:39:54Brian Atlaschat what was he streaming tell me n yes Cano is right he was arguing with
03:40:04Brian AtlasAI somebody in the chat says drop the cycle blonde guy uh% he was lifting he was lifting in the gym oh he mostly does IRL I I think I I was watching the uh
03:40:16Brian Atlasthe only things meeting from a couple days ago and I saw him I think I saw him he was like the the rip guy in the bean bag yeah I saw him yo can man really appreciate the raate anyways um back to it sorry sorry Andrew I just wanted to
03:40:29Andrew Wilsonuh shout it out just because it came in right then and there the show The Show Must Go On show must go on go ahead Andrew Show Must Go On so you were when you were talking earlier one point of agreement that you seem to have quite a
03:40:40Andrew Wilsonbit is that young women should focus on uh choosing based on finance I think that it's okay for them to do that yeah I don't have anything against should they should do that you agreed
03:40:52Brian Atlasthat they should I think that they should choose someone who has the ability to provide for them yeah I you
03:41:01Brian Atlasagree that maybe I shouldn't say should I don't think that there is a moral
03:41:08Brian Atlasproblem with a woman deciding to be with a man because of his financial situation that's how I should sure sure do you do
03:41:19Andrew Wilsonyou think though that that's extremely valuable to a woman to be with a man who's financially set do I think it's extremely
03:41:29Andrew Wilsonvaluable I think it is there's no wrong valuable yeah I thinkable yeah I agree so my question is don't you think that young people are really stupid when it comes to money and the assessment of
03:41:40Andrew Wilsonmoney and the assessment of future planning for themselves when it comes to money most most young men yes 100% then why wouldn't you promote arranged
03:41:50Brian Atlasmarriages I actually that's really funny that you get into that because I am not completely opposed to arranged marriages I I really don't have I don't have that
03:42:02Brian Atlasbig of a problem with it in fact my mom teases me about that because she says Brandon we'll just have to get an arranged marriage for you yeah so you're not you're not opposed to arranged
03:42:12Brian Atlasmarriage I'm not completely opposed to it cons considering the person that chooses the match does you know know knows I would
03:42:22Brian Atlassay knows both the parties and under under understands understands good matchmaking I would honestly I would be afraid I would get set up with someone that I wouldn't want to be with but then
03:42:34Andrew Wilsonagain that is the downside of arranged marriages well the father and mother would be the Chooser right yeah and I think I think my parents would do a pretty job what if they can't agree who
03:42:44Andrew Wilsonget who gets to make the UL imate decision definitely my dad your dad okay so then so then ultimately you would be a patriarch right yes well okay yeah
03:42:55Andrew Wilsonthen that word is loed why all this talk why all this talk of egalitarianism from you tonight why all this equal Equalization talk from you what what what are you talking about the
03:43:06Brian Atlasegalitarian what have I said that was equality I'm well yeah go go ahead no no no you go ahead you can I I am I am not
03:43:15Brian Atlaspro-quality uh in terms of yeah like the discussion that was going on earlier I think that I think that you were right when you say that Christianity is
03:43:25Brian Atlaspatriarchal and I very much agree with the church's decision to not have females in the clergy okay gotcha I wanted to get some of these so here's the thing right um you've been somewhat
03:43:38Andrew Wilsonokay I'm not going to lie to you right you've been a bit attacked in these chats um because well one they don't know you and we haven't really gotten a chance to get to any of your positions and I think now is a good a good time to
03:43:51Andrew Wilsonactually get to some of those positions that sounds great yeah so you are a patriarch you do believe in arranged marriage you do think that that's actually a good idea it's not not the worst idea if we come down to an
03:44:03Andrew Wilsonarranged marriage it should be the father who chooses yeah I would I would say that it that would that could be the case yeah G's at the table can I just get a raise of the hand of any of you who would agree with that nobody's
03:44:15Samsonagreeing with that one nobody oh wow you got one for business reasons for business reasons
03:44:25Samsonguess can you not have the what you want to expand on that um um I have to think about a little bit
03:44:37Samsonbut two families coming together for the greater good um I just putting your all your work and blood together uh and money is part of that and who you marry into is
03:44:51Andrew Wilsonimportant okay I don't know all right well I just wanted to you know it's nice to get your positions out there a little bit you know what I mean there's been a there's been quite a bit of cross talk and it seemed like there was a lot of
03:45:02Andrew Wilsonground given when we would get to kind of the uh the talk of egalitarianism but it's hard to determine from the from the listener standpoint if this is an internal critique you're doing or if
03:45:13Brian Atlasthese are positions you hold and so there's a good chance for you to expound on those positions does that make sense yeah for sure no I think that the man is the is the patriarch of the family I
03:45:25Brian Atlasthink that he has the overall say I think that Society in general should be based more around the nuclear family and the man assuming those positions I think that we've steered away from that I
03:45:37Brian Atlasthink that It ultimately It ultimately points Us in the direction of chaos as women become more masculinized and you know men