07:00:41Amouranthlot of them tend to want to do more nurturing things in life, whether it's professionally or just personally. So, some don't join the the career field because they became mothers. They drop out of their So, a lot of women,
07:00:53Andrew Wilson>> but I'm just talking specifically about STEM versus non- STEM when it comes to men and women. >> Absolutely. And they're just not going into STEM field. >> Is medicine STEM? >> Yes. >> Is psychiatry medicine? >> No. >> Yes. Psychiatrists are doctors. They have MDs. They go to medical school. The
07:01:07Andrew Wilsonthing is is like >> they study all the same stuff that doctors do. >> Here's the thing, right? It's like >> they're prescribing medications. >> I agree that they they're doing prescriptions for medication, right? But
07:01:16Andrew Wilsonum as far as me considering psychiatry not quackery, just like psychology, I still consider them both quackery. I consider them pseudocientific. >> That's an opinion. They're like, "What does the internet say?
07:01:28Amouranth>> Why don't we just say backing on Google?" Not like the internet. I'm just curious like actual statistics of that. I don't I think medical and psychiatry, psychology even
07:01:42Amouranthand teaching. I think those are all nurturing careers. So, it's still not STEMs. Like it's not it's not like plain math. It's not like computer science, you know. I feel like those statistics are still less female.
07:01:51Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. I just um Yeah. I I still consider even psychiatry B unless unless specifically like there's it's specifically about neuroscience and you're mapping out the brain or
07:02:06Brian Atlassomething like that. >> You have to study medications and how they affect the body. >> I'm sorry. I do have to move it on just for the sake of time really quick. Uh Savannah, you had circled that too. Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA. Uh why did you say that?
07:02:18Savannah>> Um well my perspective and what I was thinking is that women not having um not having a choice of abortion in some states. That was where and it just comes down to not being able to have bodily
07:02:32Andrew Wilsonautonomy. >> So besides that, anything else? >> Um, no, not necessarily. >> I actually don't even understand [clears throat] that one. Like um >> women can't have abortions, but neither can men. Sounds like equal rights to me.
07:02:42Andrew Wilson>> Al Yeah, but men aren't being told that um they >> can men have abortions? >> No, but they could have vasectomies and they're not being forced into >> Can women have their ovaries fried? Can they can they have hysterctomies? Are
07:02:55Andrew Wilsonthey allowed to have their tubes tied? Yes, they are. So, the thing is like men can't have abortions. Women can't have abortions. Sounds equal. What's unequal about that? >> Okay. >> This is like gay marriage. Yeah. They
07:03:07Andrew Wilsonare they're always like, well, two two men can't get married, you know, or two women can't get married. Who can marry a woman? It's like it's so bizarre to me
07:03:17Andrew Wilsonbecause I always think on the on the equality thing. It's like um how is it if you have men who can't have abortions and women are not allowed to have abortions, how's that not equal?
07:03:30Savannah>> Somebody explain that to me. >> From my from what I how I was thinking about it is that men are able to make health decisions about their health and the things that are happening to their body where >> but it's just like straight men can't
07:03:42Andrew Wilsonmarry men and gay men can't marry men. That's equal. If men can't get abortions, women can't get abortions. That's equal. Like that's what I I've never understood the argument for equality either. >> Okay.
07:03:55Brian Atlas>> I just never have. If if it's if it's in gay marriage, same [ __ ] Yeah. Well, I can't marry a man. It's like I can't either. I think cuz because [laughter] we're
07:04:08Brian Atlasbecause we're talking about equal rights. That would have to that relates to a comparison between men and women. So, you would have to assert that men possess a right that women don't. In
07:04:19Brian Atlasthis case, women possess a right in certain states that men don't. Obviously though, men I either either men can pro you would
07:04:30Brian Atlashave to have either men can prevent women from getting abortions or men can force women to get abortions. Neither of which is the case. Neither of which is the case. So, >> it sounds like it's equal right to me.
07:04:43Andrew WilsonLike even if it was the other way around, you could say if abortion is legal, okay, well then I guess men could get abortions and women could get abortions, but it it would be equal the opposite way, too, right? >> Yeah, I understand what you're saying.
07:04:56Brian Atlas>> Uh, all right. Women are oppressed in the USA. To which Lola, you said uh you you think women are oppressed in the USA. Savannah, you think women are oppressed in the USA? Courtney, you think women are oppressed in the USA?
07:05:09CourtneyWe'll start with Courtney. Courtney, why is that? I think since anti antiquity, women have not been able to be represented fully.
07:05:19CourtneyAnd so when first wave feminism came by and granted us like the um ability to have, you know, equal property rights
07:05:29Courtneylike after marriage, it's like that enabled women to be able to divorce. And >> because the only other two reasons for divorce under marital law was um >> wait, wait, wait, hold on. I'm sorry to
07:05:41Brian Atlasinterrupt you, but just for the sake of moving things along properly, >> the statement is women are >> Yeah. [snorts] >> not women were. So is your you're talking about historical inequalities that you
07:05:54Courtney>> believe existed? >> So now it's >> are women currently oppressed in the United States? >> Okay. Okay. My apologies. Um, yeah, I I I believe that this is kind of a more
07:06:05Courtneymetaphysical standpoint, but I think that women are oppressed by their uh their birth uh clock by not by taking up Yeah. >> Sorry. >> I'm just saying I'm just saying there's
07:06:18Andrew Wilsona lot of pressure on women. >> How's that a metaphysical claim? >> And what how would that be a oppression? [laughter] >> But most importantly, how is it a metaphysical claim? That would be wouldn't that be an onlogical claim? She's watched too much of your stuff, Andrew. And she's heard you say
07:06:31Courtneymetaphysical and >> Yeah, but that's it. I mean, you're just you're talking about being here, right? >> I'm I'm I'm looking for the word, but it's not a direct like physical oppression. So, okay. >> It's like an oppress oppression of
07:06:44Courtneynature. >> I'm trying. It's an oppression that women are so pressurized to find that partner before they're 35. It puts a lot of pressure on on us. And I also believe
07:06:56Courtneybecause of that women are oppress each other because we are in competition by the time we're 35. It it creates a very chaotic landscape for dating. >> So then who are they oppressed by?
07:07:08Andrew Wilson>> By other women. >> Sound like they're oppressed by nature and their own desires. >> [ __ ] That literally sounds like you're just saying we have a biological clock that functions. If we want to have children, we have to do it within the
07:07:19Andrew Wilsonconfines of that biological clock. And so that creates like competition maybe. >> Yeah. I don't think that's the government oppressing anyone. No. >> Yeah. I'm not saying the government. It just says are women oppressed. >> Well, are women oppressed? Usually means
07:07:31Brian Atlaslike is somebody oppressing them? >> Yeah. There there is an implication there. [laughter] >> There's a bit of an implication there. Um okay. So also uh Savannah, you also
07:07:41Savannahcircled that. How are women oppressed? Um, [clears throat] after listening to the conversation here today, um, talking about how men have allowed women to have
07:07:55Savannahwhat they have, [snorts] um, from their benevolence. I think that I wouldn't circle that after hearing your opinion because it changed how I
07:08:03Brian Atlasfeel considering that. Um, yeah, I do >> agree with you um, after considering it. >> Good. Okay. And then uh Lola, how are women oppressed in the USA? It's
07:08:14Lola>> the same answer as my other one. >> Looked down upon. T No, no. Uh what I what I said before in response to the rights, >> they're looked down upon. >> Looked down upon, taken less seriously. Um less opportunity. >> Less opportunity.
07:08:27Lola>> It's the same conversation we just had. I think that if women are taken less seriously, then they're less likely to be offered opportunities >> in DEI America. Huh? >> Yes. In DEI America. That's crazy. >> Can you slow your mic down just a little
07:08:39Lolabit? DEI America is purely performative. It's not how companies actually operate. It's for show. >> I see. So, help me out here when we're
07:08:50Lolatalking about oppression. When you say social oppression, >> sure. I mean, again, I don't even think that oppression is necessarily the word that I would directly go for. Um, but I I >> What word would you go for?
07:09:06LolaUm, I I would probably default to looked down on. >> So, not oppressed. >> Sure. But I mean, uh, I my assumption of the question was that this would fit the category. >> Okay. >> I don't see how, but
07:09:18Brian Atlas>> Okay, fair enough. >> All right. Um, let's see. One sec. Hold on. Uh, and wait, we're going to skip there. Uh
07:09:31Brian Atlasthere was one here that I thought was interesting, but I cannot find it. >> No, we're not going to we're not going to do those. Uh here, I'll just do a few
07:09:42Brian Atlasfrom here. Uh Shona, you say men should provide and protect. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, you have a sort of traditional gender expectation on men. >> I won't I won't like again I don't
07:09:54Shonabelieve in police. Yeah. I don't believe in like policing men and what they should do like as a man if >> but your own preference. Yeah, I prefer men who would provide and or no, not provide, not financially like support me fully, but I'd say protect more so
07:10:06Andrew Wilson>> protect. Okay. Um, so >> healing men to men for force.
07:10:14Brian Atlas>> Just pointing that out. [laughter] >> But when you say protect you, do you mean like for example, he should observe the sidewalk rule? So he should walk closer to, you know, the cars are
07:10:23Brian Atlasbarreling down. he should walk closer to where so he could I guess hypothetical you know the he gets hit by the car instead of you. >> Well, those aren't even examples I would
07:10:35Brian Atlaslike think of like that come to mind. I think it's just more like instinctually just like having that attitude. >> Okay. But you will keep your last name or hyphenate in marriage. And what about your children? Will they
07:10:48Shona>> have his I I'd probably hyphenate and they'd probably have his last name. But like also within a relationship with a man like obviously like there's certain expectations of like for that men have for women to be like feminine and stuff
07:11:00Shonalike that and >> I guess like that's the woman's role in that dynamic in my personal preference like dating life. >> Gotcha. Okay. Uh h okay.
07:11:12Brian AtlasIs there anything else that I find interesting on the questionnaire? Uh past should not matter. We'll just do
07:11:19Brian Atlasthat. past should not matter. To which uh let's see, Lola, you agree.
07:11:28Brian AtlasUm, hold on. Melissa, you agree. Savannah, you agree. Courtney, you agree. Past should not matter as it relates to body count. Uh, I guess to
07:11:39Brian Atlasmake things simple, going around the table, pi, past should not matter. Uh starting with Courtney then I guess
07:11:48Courtneywhat's your body count? >> Um not I think in today's era women promiscuity is looked down upon and it can have real world consequences. So I will not be answering that.
07:12:01Courtney>> What do you mean by real world consequences? >> Real world consequences. It's in the biblical days it used to be ver like by any women promiscuity they were killed.
07:12:12CourtneyUm, and today's in modernity, and yes, in modernity, it's not that way. I'm working my way to that. Thank you. It's that >> people might not accept you for a job.
07:12:23CourtneyPeople may not uh date you. It's even appearing on this podcast. It poses that risk. It's like it's of judgment. It's reputation disparaging. It's >> judge me. >> All right. Uh, what's your body count? It [laughter] seems like you'll be a
07:12:36Melissa (Bodybuilder)good sport and answer the question. Um, into the mic. Into the mic. >> I'm going be honest. from like 18 to like 22. I don't know. I hooked up with friends a lot. Um, >> lost count.
07:12:47Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> Yeah. Uh, but since since 2021, it's been like seven. >> Okay. What do you think it was before
07:12:56Melissa (Bodybuilder)2021 though? >> Um, I was having fun. It was like I don't know the friends that I went out with and stuff. It was >> ballpark ballpark.
07:13:05Savannah>> Oh. Oh, the number. Oh, >> to total. Let's just ballpark the total. >> 30. >> Okay. Uh, what about you? >> Um, I've lost count, too, but I would say in the ballpark of 30.
07:13:17Brian Atlas>> Ballpark 30. >> Probably like 13ish. >> 13-ish. Okay. >> Four. >> 17 to 19. >> 17. Aster. >> All right. What about you?
07:13:30Brian Atlas>> One. We got married very early. >> One. Okay. Uh, Felicity, what about you? >> Two. Does it bother you that your husband >> he's a player? >> He's a little bit a little ladies. >> No, I kind of find it flattering that he settled down for me.
07:13:42Brian Atlas>> He said, "Okay, there you go." Uh, all right. And, uh, Shona uh, BC. >> Oh, body count. >> Yeah. >> Zero. >> All right. Good times. Good times. You
07:13:55Shonathink the guy who you're currently dating could be the one? >> I'm not dating him. We're just seeing each other. Like getting to know each other. Like, doesn't dating imply relationship? No, no, I don't think we've not even gone on a date relationship.
07:14:08Shona>> I don't know. Some people view dating as like exclusivity, but I don't know. Just depends on you, I guess. >> Um, okay. >> I think dating is a strong term, but maybe maybe in the future. I don't think I'm going to be ready for a relationship for a long time. >> To meet up and see each other.
07:14:21Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> We've not had dates so far. >> But you're seeing each other. >> You're hanging out relationship. It's not a situationship. We're just talking right now. >> If you meet up with a friend, it's a play date. If you meet up with a [snorts] >> lover,
07:14:32Shona>> potential lover that is also a play date. >> Okay. I mean, by that standard, then sure. I just >> getting to know him. >> I don't I don't know him. Like, we're
07:14:44Shonanot that close or like close to being in a relationship yet, which is where I'm drawing the distinction. But maybe one day. Who knows? >> All right. Um, I'm going to let some of the roast session come through.
07:14:58SPEAKER_01Chaw XD donated $69. >> Thank you, Cha. >> Wonderful stream tonight, boys. World class interrogations as always. Was expecting to see Amaranth being
07:15:09SPEAKER_01dismantled tonight, but oddly found the two of them to be quite pleasant. Still hate sex work. >> Any response there? >> You didn't say. >> I hate it, too. [laughter] I just like money from it. >> Right.
07:15:21Amouranth>> Wait, sorry, repeat that. >> I hate sex work, too. I just like the money from it a lot. I don't, you know, enjoy the concept of people feeling like they have to watch you. I'm just curious. >> Yeah. Um, this is a No, this is an AP.
07:15:34Brian Atlas>> Yeah, it's a AP Chrono Diamond out. Yeah. >> There you go. Uh, we have uh Cha again. >> Ch XD donated $69.
07:15:46SPEAKER_01I hate to bring it back to Chair 7's story, but I have to ask, did you withhold your daughter from your ex-husband? Did he actively seek contact
07:15:56Courtneywith her that you put a stop to? >> No, I did not withhold our daughter from uh her father. I think he's irreplaceable. >> Wait, I forgot if I did. Was he paying
07:16:08SPEAKER_01you alimony? Did I ask that? >> Um he he was not. No >> child support. >> He was not paying child support or alimony. No. >> Thank you.
07:16:19SPEAKER_01>> Donated $69. The girls can't comprehend war, and I pray they never have to. Men understand and are built to handle how truly messed up reality is on a level most women will
07:16:31Brian Atlasnever comprehend. A luxury men don't get. >> Women can't even give us that one thing where it's like clearly war is like worse for men. They won't even give us
07:16:43Brian Atlaslike one intersectional like, wow, this is a dimension of intersectionality where men suffer more. No, even in war, women are the victims more so than men.
07:16:57Shona>> Who said that? >> I think you did. >> I literally >> earlier I said both are victims. I never said women were suffering more. And then after having had a lot of women a conversation about it, I said by that by the metrics I was explained to that men do suffer more during war. But you're
07:17:09Brian Atlassaying that I never seeded that point. >> But you know what you're doing here is imagine a girl like gets jumped. you know that jumped
07:17:21Brian Atlaswalking down the street at night, stranger danger and you know graped and I say to you, you know what? Yeah,
07:17:30Brian Atlasthat's bad. But one time a girl grabbed my ass and I I was essayed. seems a bit dismissive of the severity of the victimization of the woman. And
07:17:42Brian AtlasI'm prepared to say here that that a woman who's been like stranger raped, that's way more severe than like the one or two times some girl grabbed my ass. It was I I was technically sexually assaulted.
07:17:55Shona>> Obviously, what's your point? >> Well, it's this sort of diminishing thing you're doing. >> Did I diminish men's suffering during war when I said that men suffer more during war? But what about
07:18:05Shonathis dimension of female victimization? >> Well, I we both said that we should take women's suffering into account all while like establishing that men die more during war and that's the worst thing that you >> I literally agreed with your guys'
07:18:18Shonapoints and you're trying to say that I didn't like it's really interesting. >> Well, no, I think I think it is interesting. >> I'm trying to like talk and have a conversation in good faith when I said it's a it's a topic that I wasn't very educated on. I wasn't aware of the statistic that men died at much higher
07:18:31Brian Atlasrates. And once >> you weren't, you don't need a statistics. You don't need a study. >> I wasn't aware of the fact. >> It's just not something I thought about much before. >> Just to be clear, you you weren't aware
07:18:43Shonaof the fact as it relates to warfare that more men die than women. >> I never I never really thought about that until all I wrote down all I wrote down on the paper to be clear was both
07:18:55Shonaare victims. But when we had a conversation about who suffer more, I literally said, "Okay, I agree with what you're saying. Men do suffer more." >> But hold on. >> I trying to say that I didn't. I don't understand. >> November 9th, >> I said my mind was changed and you're
07:19:08Shonalike out here. >> Hold on. Until November 9th of 2025, you didn't know that men die more in war than women. >> It's not something that I ever thought about. I didn't think about the death toll when I was writing when I was
07:19:20Shonaanswering that question. I just thought about like all different kinds of suffering. And Andrew changed her mind. Andrew changed her mind. So >> what is there to be confused about? >> I mean,
07:19:34Brian Atlas>> he thinks it's common sense. >> H Have you not been exposed to like even any sort of like uh or non-fictional war stories? Like even in high school or elementary school,
07:19:45Brian Atlasjunior high school, you never took like a they they didn't teach you about World War I, World War II. >> Of course I know about World War I. >> Like was it women who were getting trench foot? Was it women who were getting mustard gassed? >> When I wrote down both are victims.
07:19:57Brian Atlas>> Have you ever seen a historical photo of World War I or World War II? >> Yes, I have. >> When the men have their their eyes um bandaged or when when you see photos of like, you know, uh bandaged eyes, is it
07:20:10Shonalike a bunch of like Tiffany's and Tracy's or is it some John's? And >> there's probably photos of women going through horrible things during war as well. Again, all I wrote down is both men and women were victims during war. I
07:20:24Shonawasn't even necessarily thinking strictly about like murder during war. I was thinking about all different kinds of suffering that both experienced. But when we when we started to compare it, I literally >> Okay.
07:20:35Amouranth>> I think it's just the the the >> the [snorts] desire to be like fair to everyone politically correct that a lot of women have these days when they see like they don't want to be like impartial to like someone else who's suffering even though a statistic might
07:20:47Shonasay something. It's just how they are. It's okay. It's just reality. >> But you agree that men are the primary victims. >> I said that like 30 times and I'll >> Okay. Okay. Clarify. >> Uh Brian, >> that's crazy.
07:20:59Brian Atlas>> Kate, do you have any uh hot takes as it relates to dating? Feel like, you know, we didn't we didn't get too many notes from you, so I'm just curious if you got any what are your hot takes, you know?
07:21:09AmouranthWell, I actually uh do think that the body count and history can matter a lot because it can tell you a person's sense of judgment and if they make good decisions on who they're dating and if they just callously give away their affection to everyone, you have to
07:21:23Nick Leewonder how much it's worth, you know, like their time and everything. >> Got it. Okay. Anything else? Or >> if anything comes up, let me know. >> Do you have anything? >> You got any Yeah, you got interesting. >> She's dated more than I have. >> She's convinced me of this. It's not
07:21:35Nick Leequite dating, but it's like spoiling kids, I think. Uh, I've I've always thought it was bad and then she was like, "Well, for a girl it's actually not that bad. For a guy it is." And I thought about it and I was like, "Actually, that I think that tracks."
07:21:47Nick LeeShe spoils our niece and uh, you know, she she was explaining it to me and it was just like now she won't be impressed by money or all that. It'll just be actually if she clicks with that person. >> Yeah. She won't be like going the guy
07:22:00Amouranthhas a nice car, the first guy she sees cuz it's like, "Oh yeah, my family already has that." Whatever. versus like we don't spoil the nephews because we want them to learn hard work. >> Yeah. >> Got it. Cool. We're gonna let some more chats come through. Charles, thank you,
07:22:14SPEAKER_01man. >> Charles Sterling donated $69, 543 in World War II, eight in the Vietnam War, 13 in the Gulf War, and 166
07:22:26SPEAKER_01in Operations Iraqi and Enduring Freedom. Tens of millions died in wars and conflicts since 1945.
07:22:36SPEAKER_01True. It's true. Thank you, Charles. Appreciate your message. We have Vader senpai. >> Vader senpai donated $69. Also, morality is objective. The
07:22:48SPEAKER_01universe doesn't care about your feels. Deas vault. God bless you, Andrew, and Brian. Y'all are doing the world a great service. >> Uh, one step back.
07:23:00Brian Atlas>> Vader senpai. Appreciate it. By the way, Andrew is coming back. Uh, the pizza's here. Uh, >> guys, get a roast in here at the end of the show.
07:23:10SPEAKER_0194 donated $69. Death is not the only trauma men face in war. That is true. Injury to death ratios are usually around 5 to1. Any trauma you can point to a woman facing
07:23:23SPEAKER_01one can easily point to a man losing limb, getting PTSD, etc.
07:23:30SPEAKER_01>> That is true. That is true. Uh, thank you, Croes. Appreciate it, man. >> Justin, thank you. >> Justin Martins donated $69.
07:23:42SPEAKER_01Chair six, you may want to stick around and come back tomorrow. Andrew may need your help with a jar. >> Ah, that was a big one. >> I don't want >> That was a bingo.
07:23:55Brian Atlas[laughter] Um, that's number one. Thank you, Justin. appreciate it. We have Mr. Meow
07:24:06SPEAKER_01>> Meow donated $69. Chair one needs to understand that the exceptions don't make the rule with her view on victimhood of war. >> The kinds of suffering I described that
07:24:20Brian Atlaswomen can go through during war are not exceptions necessarily. [clears throat] Um, >> anyone else wanting Okay. >> You don't want no pizza? No pizza. >> Fasting. >> Your macros. You're tracking your
07:24:33Brian Atlasmacros. >> Fasting. >> Oh, I remember the story about Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll get into it. >> Oh, you don't have to. >> I'll just have one after the show. Thank you. Then >> we can talk about that later.
07:24:43Brian Atlas>> Uh, let's see here. Thank you, Mr. Meow. We have based Thor. Thank you, man. >> Based Thor donated $69.
07:24:54SPEAKER_01Chair one, just shut up and look pretty. Chair 2, 304, come dumpster. Chair three, cuck pimp chair. Four, stupid aso chair. Five, not an eight. A three at best chair. Six, big muscle labia chair.
07:25:06LolaSeven, put away that fuber chair. Eight, evil [ __ ] >> God, >> what does that mean? Stupidesso. >> I don't know what the one about me
07:25:15SPEAKER_01means. >> Okay. All right. >> Vo senpai donated $69.
07:25:27SPEAKER_01You've noticed when men and women debate, men typically debate from a top- down overview of reality where women tend to debate from within themselves. It's always about them. They are the center of reality.
07:25:41Brian Atlas>> Anybody want the women want to >> I agree. I'm the center of his reality. >> Well, there you go. All right. We have Robert with another a double. I'll have
07:25:52SPEAKER_01to double fist it. Robert Tanner donated $1,01.
07:26:00SPEAKER_01Let me know if I can help more Brian. Also looking at you, Andrew. >> Thanks you guys for all you do. >> Let me know if I can help more Brian.
07:26:09Brian AtlasYou know, I think we need a little hat trick here. Just Well, he already Wait, >> Leandowski for the hatrick. >> Put it in. Oh my word. This is one. No,
07:26:22Brian Atlashe already did the hat trick performances. >> I mean, you could do a triple double champagne. Wait, triple double? No, it would just be triple. I Sorry, I'm It's
07:26:33Brian Atlasbeen a while since I took math class. Uh, we need a triple champagne with the pizza, I guess. Can I get another champagne bottle, please? Uh, thank you, Robert Tanner. You're you're a uh >> he's a brave and a decent man. He's a
07:26:47Brian Atlaspioneer. >> Legend. >> He's a [ __ ] legend.
07:26:55SPEAKER_01Your friendly chatter donated $69. Greetings, young airmen here, miss. During times of war, our job is to make sure the innocent men, women, and
07:27:07SPEAKER_01children don't get hurt. Feminism doesn't exist in war. Only your safety and freedom. Mom, >> he really was so polite about it. Let me uh go to the bathroom. >> I like the greetings.
07:27:24Brian AtlasUh, thank you for Sorry, I'm trying to figure out the champagne ball here. Uh, that was your friendly chatter. Thank you for that, man. And then this is for
07:27:33SPEAKER_01Shon. Happily curious guy donated $70. Shona, how why do you refute Shiva Puranuetal?
07:27:43SPEAKER_01Hindu doctrines dictating in Hindu marriage. Dharmic Viva man has absolute ultimate and irrefutable authority in the marriage and not the woman.
07:27:55ShonaUm because the Shiva piranha does not like dictate everything in Hinduism.
07:28:07Shona>> What does >> it's not one of those like religions that has like I mean today at least a lot of rigid laws and rules like you could acknowledge across different
07:28:18Shonareligions there's like more liberal forms of every religion. >> That's kind of what I follow. Right. Like not every Christian strictly follows all the ten commandments.
07:28:29SPEAKER_01>> Wife donated $69. Amaranth, is this the same husband that in 2022 you told the internet abused you and stole your finances? >> Feel like that was tongue and cheek. Uh
07:28:42Brian Atlaswe've been together 11 years, so it has to be right. [laughter] >> We have uh Charles Ster, and
07:28:50Brian Atlasshe was was away at the table when that came up. Uh, we have Charles Sterling.
07:28:59SPEAKER_01>> Charles Sterling donated $69. Andrew, good to see you again. W for Brian and W for Andrew. RIP Charlie Kirk. >> Does anybody want I'll do a little bit more
07:29:11Brian Atlas>> champagne? Same. >> Yes, please. >> Uh, I'll pour down. >> Yeah, if you can pour your cups over, guys. >> Anybody want more pizza? Anybody want more pizza? You can fill it up. We got
07:29:24SPEAKER_01>> Iron Man_960 donated $69. >> PTSD is permanent. Sorry, Andrew. It is not something you can put behind you, but men are hit harder with it in war
07:29:36Andrew Wilsonthan women. Ask a Vietnam veteran if he still has nightmares. Welcome Vietvet home. Look, um perhaps that's true, but it is something which you can live with,
07:29:47Andrew Wilsonsomething which you can cope with, and you can put much of it at least behind you. Dealing with trauma, you could say that about any trauma. You can say any trauma is with you forever. Fine. I I'll I'll concede that point. Uh it just
07:30:00Andrew Wilsondoesn't hurt my argument at all. The truth is is that it's still better to be [ __ ] alive than dead. And so if that's the case and you can at least deal with post-traumatic stress disorder
07:30:09Andrew Wilson>> and learn to cope with it and put at least most of it behind you or uh deal with it in life, how's that not a superior position to death?
07:30:24Brian AtlasDon't Taiwanese people they can handle their liquor? Do you want to just [laughter] you would just want to shoot from >> I don't really drink that much anymore. I try to Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to pass your cup down and I think it's
07:30:34Brian Atlas>> Oh, it's right there for if you want. >> I was getting it. I was getting some for Kate. >> Um, yeah, sure. >> We'll fill up for Kate. >> All right, we have some more coming
07:30:45SPEAKER_01through here. We have JC. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. >> JC donated $69. The most entitled, gross, and lying
07:30:55SPEAKER_01woman is chair 4. That's even with the internet puppy star who spoils her niece with nasty money. teaching her. Well, for sure. >> That's you, I believe. >> Oh, I know. >> Do you want to respond?
07:31:09Brian Atlas>> There you go. >> Um, >> yeah. I don't I don't know. You're >> any anybody? >> I have no problem with people thinking that about me. >> Did you get some, Andrew? >> Oh, you're just going to drink from
07:31:21Brian Atlasthis, right? Oh, you poured it all out. >> Mhm. >> Did you pour some for you? I guess we we'll do a double cheers for Robert. >> No, there's still some in there. Tanner.
07:31:30Brian AtlasThere's still some in there. Uh, cheers, Robert Tanner. Saloo. Thank you. >> Feel so left out.
07:31:41Brian Atlas>> Wait, hold on. It was Clay who sent in the first Champagne Pop, wasn't it? Clay. Um, >> the Twitch guy, right? >> Robert Tanner. Hold on. Robert Tanner,
07:31:53Brian Atlasyou you asked if there's anything you could do. Robert Tanner, [laughter] you said let me know if I can help more. Ryan, do the do the hattick. Do the hattick here. Where is it? >> Leandowski for that. >> If you want if you want. You don't have
07:32:06SPEAKER_00to. >> Oh my word. This is one of Leandowski's finest performances. >> Finest performances. >> Adon Elahari donated $69.
07:32:18SPEAKER_09Chair number five, based legend. >> What does that mean? >> That's you. >> Yeah. What does bass legend mean? >> Just means you're awesome. Means you're awesome. >> They like you. Man, I love you. >> They love you. >> They think you're the [ __ ] You are the
07:32:30Brian Atlas[ __ ] [laughter] >> I had a lot of homies watching tonight. >> We have just a few notes from Melissa to get through. Uh so final call, guys, on the roasts. We're going to get this wrapped up. [laughter]
07:32:42Andrew Wilson>> We're going to get this wrapped up in 10 15 minutes. 10 15 minutes. >> I got to Man, >> I won't get enough sleep. >> I mean, we're pretty much there. >> Ladies and gentlemen, I just wanted to point all of this out. Thank all of you
07:32:54Andrew Wilsonfor this wonderful conversation this evening. Thank you to the entire Whatever staff and uh the Whatever audience for hosting me. I have a debate in the morning. >> 10 minutes, Andrew. >> I got to I got to I have I have to, bro.
07:33:06Andrew Wilson>> But I have a debate in the morning, right? I'll be back here uh for that tomorrow. I appreciated everybody and all the conversation. I really appreciate it, guys. >> Thank you for coming, Andrew. Thank you for coming. We'll see you uh we'll see you tomorrow. >> See you tomorrow. Have a great night, guys.
07:33:20Brian Atlas>> Nice chatting with you. >> Bye. >> All right, guys. We're almost wrapped. 10 minute 10 15 minutes. We just have a few more notes to get through. >> Also, I hate Spyro. I hate him. >> Oh, Spyro. He actually uh Anyway,
07:33:31Brian Atlas>> he's Greek, so he's worthless. >> Oh [ __ ] Mr. Plight. Uh Felicity, if you can take the seed. Speaking from a veteran experience, women are kept away from the meat grinder that is war. While
07:33:41Brian Atlasyoung boys do horrific things to others. Do we do a Jake cameo really quick? You want to do a quick cameo? >> Cameo. >> Little little cameo from Jake. >> He's in the studio. You might as little
07:33:54Brian Atlasquick cameo here. Take that seat just for a sec while we get the uh Jake Rattlesnake cameo. There he is in all his Australian glory. >> Oh, what's up, Kerr? There he is. Realitybased.
07:34:07Brian AtlasBoom. Good to see you, man. Good to see you. Hope you've been doing uh well, man. Uh did I finish? Oh, um go watch Blackhawk Down and Saving Private Ryan
07:34:16Brian Atlasand think about having to do that daily as your friends die.
07:34:25Brian AtlasUh, Mr. Plight, thank you for for that. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Uh, $69 TTS. Get it in if Oh my goodness. This guy is He is on fire.
07:34:38Brian AtlasRobert Tanner is on fire. Oh my goodness. >> He's a brave and a decent man. He's a pioneer. >> All right. One more. One more champagne
07:34:49SPEAKER_01bother, please. Robert Tanner donated $1,01. Here you go, guys. Enjoy the night. Thanks again, Brian and Andrew, as well as the panel. Brian and Andrew, reach
07:35:01Brian Atlasout. Love to support more. >> Thank you, man. Uh, Robert Tanner, you're a [ __ ] legend. Thank you so much, man. Really appreciate it. >> Is that another >> Is there Is there [laughter] >> Is there
07:35:14Brian Atlas>> Maybe check on the side. Check on the side. There should be. There should be. Uh, yo, Robert Tanner, you're a legend. Thank you, man. Really appreciate it. Uh, >> we have Oh, I already did this one, right?
07:35:25SPEAKER_01>> Iron Man on this call 60 donated $69. >> This is different. >> I am a vet with PTSD from the war I served. >> I am in therapy with Vietnam vets. We
07:35:37SPEAKER_01have group every Monday. I promise you it does not get easier from seeing it with them. I am not taking away. >> Okay. Andrew says, "Okay." >> Yeah.
07:35:58Brian Atlas>> Okay. All right. We have uh finishing off the show with Melissa's notes. Uh you said that you don't know if it's appropriate, but there's a story that's exemplary of what
07:36:11Brian Atlasit's like getting with a bodybuilder. Lol. Recently, you hooked up with this. Let's have Do you want to tell the story? >> You want to tell the story? >> Um I I hooked up with uh this guy who I've
07:36:24Melissa (Bodybuilder)hooked up with a few times over the past few years and um I don't know if anyone's going to like get this. Um we smoked beforehand. I had cotton mouth went to go down on him and so he went to
07:36:35Melissa (Bodybuilder)put coconut oil on his dick and I was like that's way too many fats. [laughter] So, you had to watch the macros. >> Watch the macros.
07:36:47Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> And I had no idea that I said anything weird until he was like, "He's not a bodybuilder." He was like, "Are you kidding?" And I was like, "What? I already ate for the day." >> That's it. >> Why'd he just have you spit?
07:36:59Jake>> I I heard it's a good source of >> I had he [laughter] drink some water. >> Should have gone diddy with it with the with the baby oil. [laughter] >> Should have gone diddy with it with the
07:37:11Melissa (Bodybuilder)baby oil. should have. But >> yeah, what's the question? >> Just not in your mouth. >> What? >> Just not in your mouth. >> Yeah. I mean, look, I took one for the team, but [laughter] >> this one
07:37:23Willow>> like he'll throw up. Like, I think there's like a 30 minute window on calories. >> It was a bit It was all right, Jake. Pound this entire ball of champagne. >> Oh, he's actually [laughter] Jake. >> Not the whole thing. I got to be
07:37:35Brian Atlasresponsible. >> There you go. Um, >> oh, my question was, so it was coconut oil, right? But what about >> what if it was beef?
07:37:46Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> What if it was his? >> Cuz I hear that's a good source of protein, the seed, >> right? But you would have to finish the deed before you get this. >> You don't do that. That's just the date
07:37:59Melissa (Bodybuilder)before you get the seed. That's common sense. That's the >> Oh. Oh, you're just saying would I >> would like a >> That's I I would imagine that has more protein than it does fat, which is lower in calories. So, >> do you know the macro split on
07:38:12Brian Atlas>> I don't [laughter] >> I don't know the macro split on [ __ ] No, I don't. >> I wouldn't know. >> I'm sure I'm sure it varies with diet though, you know. >> Oh, yeah. >> But you fulfilled your macros for the day. So, uh you said that things you
07:38:24Brian Atlaslook for in a man. You say ambitious, goal oriented, secure with himself, receptive to communication, able to teach you something. uh present alternate perspective to your own. Okay. Uh apparently you appear dominant, but
07:38:36Brian Atlasreally you want someone who's capable of dominating you. The only Yeah. The only way you're letting your guard down is if you can call the shots and make you feel protected. >> Okay. Uh >> you think constant texting is
07:38:48Brian Atlasridiculous. You don't like the expectation of constant availability. Sure. Uh you couldn't care less if a guy likes other girls pictures like on
07:38:58Brian AtlasInstagram or whatever. Okay. And u >> I was just looking up like topics and stating my opinion on them because you asked. >> Okay. Uh let's see here. You say it's a
07:39:10Brian Atlaswaste of bandwidth to revolve your life around finding a partner. However, it's important to be open to the unexpected. Uh okay. Uh I think that's pretty much it for the notes. Was there anything you wanted to add or >> Okay. >> How much of a gorilla do you really
07:39:23Jakeneed? You must need a >> No, it's not even I'm actually more attracted to intelligence than anything, but it has to dominate you intellectually closer to Mike. >> Dominate you intellectually. >> Intellectually and physically. Yes.
07:39:36Brian Atlas>> So, you need a gorilla. >> Sure. >> Is Jake >> um is he getting there? >> Cuz Jake's fit. He's a fighter. He's really fit. >> He does uh Thai boxing boxing.
07:39:49Brian Atlas>> Kickboxing or boxing. >> Little bit of gum [ __ ] kickboxing. >> Okay. Boxing. Would you I mean, do you like Australian guys or >> I do. Yeah. >> Oh, Jake, >> let's talk. [laughter] >> At the end of the show, I'm coming in
07:40:02Brian Atlasclutch as a wingman here. >> Thank you, bro. >> Um, >> what do you What do you think, though? >> I think is attractive. >> What I know of him so far. Yeah. >> Are you single, Jake? What's >> I'm single? No way.
07:40:13Brian Atlas>> Oh. >> Have you Death by Snoo? [laughter] >> What does that mean? >> Do you know you don't know that? Uh it's like uh this Futurama the the Futurama characters they encountered this like
07:40:25Brian AtlasAmazonian uh tribe of alien women who are like gigantic super ripped and um they they
07:40:35Brian Atlaskill the men by having sex with them because they're so like crush their pelvis. >> If it's my fate then let it be. [laughter]
07:40:45Brian Atlas>> Okay. Um anyway, uh uh guys, do do you any dating topics you want to hit on super quick or >> I don't know. I'm not sure what you guys have hit on already.
07:40:56Brian Atlas>> Um yeah, I think we talked about um lot we talked about how Australian women are just these bogen >> degenerates. You guys talked about that.
07:41:10Brian Atlas>> That's true. >> I just made that up at the end there. Yeah, >> just kidding. Australian women are are Do you like Australian women? >> No, they're the worst. >> They're the worst. >> The worst. >> That's why he's here, >> you know. Exactly. It's hard to get out.
07:41:21Jake>> I you know, I actually uh I' I've met some Australian girls and they've been quite nice. Not going to lie. Maybe I got >> Everyone's got this perception of them that they're like beach girls, surfer girls, you know, beach bums, but it's just not the case. You know, a lot of them are sort of
07:41:35Jake>> like rednecks, but Australia. >> Not really. But they they yap, you know? They're yap. >> They're yappers. Like me and my friends have this rule like when we're overseas, we can always tell Australian girls from a distance because the way that they yap. >> Interesting. Interesting.
07:41:48Brian Atlas>> Yappy. >> Uh, any final thoughts from any other other panelists before we wrap this up? Final thoughts? Final thoughts. Did I
07:41:56Brian Atlasget everybody's notes? I final thoughts. >> We never did World War II years. >> Oh. Um,
07:42:09Savannah>> name three countries. >> Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia. Three >> three countries like just any. >> Yeah, just three countries. >> Okay. >> You can't repeat from the previous.
07:42:19Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> Okay. Uh, China, South Africa, and Ukraine. >> Peru. >> Into the mic. Into the mic. >> No, sorry. Uh, Peru, Japan, United States.
07:42:31Brian Atlas>> Would you be down to arm wrestle Jake right now? >> Yeah. Wait. Yes. Wait. Wait. Let's clear the [laughter] >> I'm going to be going. >> Oh, we're literally about to wrap.
07:42:42Courtney>> I know, but I didn't I just figured >> are are we wrapping it up in the next >> Yeah. Yeah. Like >> five minutes. >> Yes. [laughter] >> Yes. >> All right.
07:42:54Brian Atlas>> Oh my. Okay. Um final thoughts there? No. Okay, cool. Um let me see if there's any chats that came through. We'll let them come through and then Okay, we have this one
07:43:06SPEAKER_01[clears throat] here. I'll just >> Thank you, Pro Shotty. Appreciate it. >> Proshotty donated $69. I had to subscribe tonight because it was so badass. But I will say I did join
07:43:17SPEAKER_01a call with Emaranth for advice and she gave real feedback. I had issues with dating and she was real about it. A >> love y'all. A that's actually one of the biggest requests not just like on stream
07:43:29Amouranthbut like on the o side too is just guys coming and wanting some positive words and advice when they're going through hard times kind of like uh there's one guy who's going through Hustler's University and he was trying to find his
07:43:41Amouranthplace in life and he was talking about the inner circle to me and he was just like can you just tell me that like I can do it that I'm not going to be a failure in life so like yeah it happens a lot of people do ask for advice. >> What did you tell him? said, "You can do
07:43:55Amouranthit, King." >> How do you know though? What if he can't do it? >> Well, what does it help though? >> His life will be better uh if he thinks he can. [laughter] Either way, >> if it helps him get through the, you know, get through the tough spot in life, you know? >> Yeah. >> Oh, did we finish three? Name three
07:44:07Willowcountries. >> Um Oh, you said ones that weren't named already, right? >> Uh >> I'll just try three. >> Japan, Argentina, and uh I'm not good at history, like geography stuff. Uh China,
07:44:20Willowwhatever. >> Fiji. Geography is not my thing. >> Fiji, the Maldes, Madagascar, >> see where >> Russia, Egypt, [laughter] >> New Zealand,
07:44:32SPEAKER_01>> Estonia, Zimbabwe, Djibouti. >> Said anyway. Um, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon. >> Okay, we have this from JC. >> JC donated $69.
07:44:44SPEAKER_01>> It was asked earlier while she was gone. But Hamaranth, why did you stay with your abuser? Or was the while crying show months back just fake? >> My crying is never fake. All right,
07:44:55Amouranththose are real intense moments of turmoil in relationships. Difference between us though is that I'm always alive, at least historically. So, you know, emotions happen, but you know, marriage isn't just >> I heard. >> I did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
07:45:09Brian Atlas>> That was cool. >> Yeah. I mean, uh didn't wouldn't wouldn't wish for it, but Yeah. Yeah. >> Do you wish he died? >> Yes, >> I would have too. >> Yeah. Well, the then the I guess the
07:45:20Brian Atlasconcern is I've had this interaction with this person. I've inflicted damage to them. Are they going to be vindictive? Do will they try to seek out revenge and it's going to be >> Mhm. >> I mean, that would be my thought
07:45:34Nick Leeanyways. >> I asked the inspector that and he said, which doesn't really give me much uh comfort, but it's nice to know. I guess it's like he said uh statistically that never happens. He's been doing it 21 years or something like that >> where Yeah. >> Yeah. cuz I asked him like if if one of
07:45:47Nick Leethese guys eventually, you know, is are they going to He's like, "We've never seen that in Houston and all that." Yeah, >> that makes sense. I I imagine it's rare. It's like, "Hey, you're committing a crime.
07:45:58Brian AtlasThe other guy got the got the jump on you." So, all right. Uh let's see here. I think that's pretty much it for the chats. If one trickles through, I'll be sure to get it. But, uh I do want to say
07:46:10Brian Atlasor we need we need to do the final things. Okay, guys. Uh final final things. Like the video if you enjoyed the stream. If you want to become a master debater, debateuniversity.com. Felicity, why don't you just stand in
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07:46:46Brian AtlasThank you for the prime, Kinjun. Really appreciate it. Okay, guys. Thank you. Thank you. So, GG, >> well played >> to the panel. Last call. Hit the like button, please, on your way out. Also,
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07:48:01Brian AtlasThank you guys. I know there some heated moments there. After the [clears throat] show, it's all it's all water under the bridge. Uh, you guys were wonderful. I know again we had disagreements, but
07:48:12Brian Atlas[sighs] I take none of it personally. Neither does Andrew, by the way. So, um, thank you guys so much for coming. Appreciate it. And, uh, I just want to make sure I'm not screwing anybody over
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07:48:31Brian AtlasGood night. We will see you guys tomorrow, 3 p.m. Good night, guys.