Andrew Wilson DEBATES Amouranth! CRASH OUT Kylie Update?! Woke College Feminists! | Dating Talk #268
Date: 2025-11-10
Duration: 7h 48m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Willow(guest)
SPEAKER_03Lola(guest)
SPEAKER_05Courtney(guest)
SPEAKER_06Shona(guest)
SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Melissa (Bodybuilder)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Jake(guest)
SPEAKER_12Nick Lee(guest)
SPEAKER_13Amouranth(guest)
SPEAKER_14Savannah(guest)
Key Moments
00:02:44
IntroAll panelists introduce themselves including Amouranth, Nick Lee, and Andrew Wilson
00:17:00
Key MomentAmouranth/Nick tell full home invasion story. Nick shot invader with 9mm while wife was held hostage.
00:28:00
QuoteAmouranth reveals gross OnlyFans earnings of ~$74-75 million
00:30:12
ControversyDiscussion of Amouranth's vagina yeast beer made by Polish company and bath water sales
01:39:00
Key MomentAndrew and Willow debate whether OnlyFans is prostitution. Andrew: only difference is a screen.
02:22:00
Key MomentAndrew presents force doctrine to Shona: men monopolize force, women can never collectively take rights from men.
03:00:00
Key MomentDeep moral objectivism debate. Andrew: without God, if men decide women are cattle, there's no justification against it.
03:26:00
ControversyCourtney argues women should call partners 'master.' Most panelists reject this.
06:10:00
ControversyCourtney reveals ex-husband's suicide-by-cop. She texted 'you are the cancer' day he died. Family barred her from funeral.
07:15:00
QuoteAmouranth: 'I hate sex work too. I just like the money from it a lot.'
07:18:00
AgreementShona explicitly agrees men are primary victims of war by metric of death
07:22:00
QuoteMelissa's coconut oil story: refused extra fats even during sex because of macros
“He went to put coconut oil on his dick and I was like that's way too many fats.”
Topics Discussed
00:02:44
Guest Introductions and Relationship Status
All panelists introduce themselves. Includes Amouranth/Nick, Andrew Wilson, Shona (18, UCSB), Lola, Willow, Melissa (IFBB pro), Savannah, Courtney.
00:17:00
Amouranth Home Invasion
3 armed men broke in seeking crypto. Nick shot one with 9mm. All 3 caught, face 5-999 years in Texas.
00:26:30
OnlyFans Earnings
Amouranth grossed ~$74-75M on OnlyFans. Peak $30M/year. Quarter-million-dollar single day. Vagina yeast beer by Polish company.
01:39:00
Prostitution Definition Debate
Andrew argues all sex work is prostitution. Willow distinguishes between prostitutes (with pimps) and sex workers (with choice).
02:21:00
Force Doctrine and Feminism
Andrew presents force doctrine: men monopolize force, so women always appeal to men for rights. Shona pushes back. Andrew counters with Middle East/Afghanistan examples.
03:00:00
Objective vs Subjective Morality
Deep philosophical debate. Andrew: without God, all moral claims reduce to preference. Lola argues for biological instincts.
03:26:00
Women Should Call Men Master
Courtney advocates women calling partners 'master.' Panel debates who gets tiebreaker in marriage disagreements.
04:12:00
Crash Out Kylie Update
Update on guest who claimed she was 'digitally assaulted' and threatened to sue Brian.
04:29:00
Self-Rating Looks
Most women rate 8-10. Andrew and Brian find it delusional. Discussion of objective vs subjective beauty.
06:00:00
Income Requirements
Shona: six figures. Amouranth pre-fame: $60K. Lola: doesn't matter. Melissa: $250K. Savannah: $50K.
06:10:00
Courtney's Ex-Husband Suicide
Ex died by suicide-by-cop. She texted 'you are the cancer' day he died. Told him 'you could be anyone' during oral sex. Family barred her from funeral.
06:35:00
Women Are Primary Victims of War
Andrew: death is worse than trauma, men die overwhelmingly more. Shona eventually concedes men are primary victims by death toll.
07:11:00
Body Count Reveal
Melissa ~30. Savannah ~13. Willow ~30. Lola 4. Shona 0. Andrew's husband says 'wild 20-25.'
Transcript
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05:01:06
Brian Atlasphysical fitness. Yes. When it as it relates to body attractiveness. So this this doesn't mean like super giant, but if he's got a >> some degree of muscle definition in fitness,
05:01:18
Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> that's >> I think it it tells you about uh about abilities and like where your discipline lies. Like it tells you more about their mind when you can see how someone takes
05:01:30
Lolacare of themselves. I would argue in extreme cases it does like if someone you know who looks like you I can make assumptions about your lifestyle, right? But I do definitely think that people can have very similar lifestyles and
05:01:42
Andrew Wilsonstill look relatively different. Again, the extremes obviously do show things about your life. >> They're not really going to be looking relatively different if one's in the gym every two days and the other one's not. >> Yeah, that's the extreme. Oh, I'm sorry.
05:01:53
Andrew Wilson>> That's not the extreme. Uh, I do think >> we're talking about we're talking about people who just have like they're basically taking care of themselves and then those who aren't and it is the case that you can have what's called skinny
05:02:05
Andrew Wilsonfat. We all know exactly what [ __ ] skinny fat is, okay? There's no muscle tone, there's no nothing, right? They're skinny but yeah, it's squishy. And so the thing is is like it is the case
05:02:16
Andrew Wilsonobjectively if you if you have women rate men, right? especially on body type. They all he Brian's absolutely right about this and we there's actual data on this from dating apps. If the
05:02:28
Andrew Wilsonman is moved towards the lean side, not necessarily the bodybuilder, he's right about that too. They don't have to be huge, but if they move towards the lean side, especially if they have a flat stomach and they have good muscle tone,
05:02:40
Lolathere's almost universal agreement, then that's better than dadbod. >> Sure. People Yeah. I mean, like there are general preferences. I I didn't argue that. But I mean, okay, I have a question for you and like in a very
05:02:54
Lolagenuine sense. Do you think that you could take a good guess at how often I am in the gym? And I promise you, I won't be offended. >> Um, not that often. At least not if you're doing strength training. Not that often.
05:03:05
Lola>> Not if I'm doing strength training. Do Do you mean if if my goal is to gain muscle, I'm not in the gym very often? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, would you like to know if you're right? >> Yeah. >> Uh, I wouldn't say so. I
05:03:17
Andrew Wilson>> Well, you wouldn't say so to any truth, though. By when you say I wouldn't say so, can I just ask you this? >> Yes. >> How many [ __ ] times you in the gym doing strength training? >> Doing strength training. As of the last two weeks, not so much. I've been working
05:03:30
Lola>> 40 hours a week. However, so you could have just said Andrew. >> No, no, no. But I am going to argue I am going to argue, >> Andrew, you're going to I am going to argue with you that in the past two weeks, my body has not changed significantly. The time in which before
05:03:43
Lolathose two weeks, >> I would love to finish what I was saying. It would it would be really great if you would >> I need I need some concessions. >> So here's the conversation we're going to have over the summer. >> I can't wait to hear the conversation we're going to have.
05:03:54
Lola>> For 3 months consecutively, I was in the gym at least every other day. >> Um genuinely without any any faults. I looked the exact same as I do now. >> What does that mean? Doing what >> doesn't mean anything.
05:04:08
Lola>> Do we want Do we want to talk about my push days, my pull days, my leg days, or my cardio days? Which one? Let's talk about your strength days, >> which is three of the four categories, I guess. >> And how often were you in there doing strength training? >> Um, three days out of a week.
05:04:21
Lola>> And what did that look like? >> Um, I mean, my leg days, I was doing the leg presses. I don't know the names of the machine, but I can describe. >> You don't know that. You don't know the names. You take your gym life real serious.
05:04:32
Brian Atlas>> You're wearing cargo pants and we've seen the upper half of your body. Asking the question of Andrew, do you think I work out? First off, you don't put on upper body musculature. >> That's my point. You can't tell. >> Yeah, but men don't give a [ __ ] about
05:04:46
Andrew Wilsonyour like arm. >> No, but I'm not claiming that it looks better or worse. I'm claiming that it's not representative of lifestyle. >> I feel like I can tell. Actually, I do feel like I can kind of tell if a woman
05:04:56
Andrew Wilsonis doing strength training or not by definition. And yeah, I don't think you are. Or if you are, you're not doing >> during the times in my life when I was doing significantly more strength training than I am now. And I'm not saying that I was ever buff. I wasn't. But during
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Lola>> Not even talking about buff, I'm talking about shape. There's body shapes. >> Is there were times in my life that I genuinely was significantly more active than I am now. I was genuinely strength training. I was dieted. I was paying attention to protein. Who does that?
05:05:22
Brian AtlasAnyways, I I looked the same as I do now. >> Don't map on men's. You're doing this thing that's really common. women think about the things that
05:05:34
Brian Atlasthey're attracted to in men and then they map that on to what they think men are attracted to. >> So you're saying, "Well, I'm in the gym and I'm pu doing push and pull and I'm do working your upper body." Men don't
05:05:46
Lolagive a [ __ ] about like your upper body muscle definition. It's not an attraction trigger for men. >> We're talking about looks. >> No, we're the argument was whether or not looks are representative of lifestyle. I'm not arguing whether or not it's attractive.
05:05:59
Lola>> I don't care about that. >> If Hang on. If they're not, then what is your first assumption when you see someone is fat? >> Genuinely, unless it is an extreme length, I do not make assumptions. I have I have no >> I mean fat. I don't mean you got a gut.
05:06:11
Andrew WilsonI mean you're fat. >> If it is to an extreme length, yeah, you can make these. >> I don't even mean an extreme length. They're like 40 lb overweight, 30 lb overweight. They're not 100 lb overweight. I mean, no preassumptions. >> No,
05:06:24
Brian Atlas>> I I don't really know what 40 lbs looks like in practice. I can't picture that. >> I think women need to wake up. They they need women need to wake up. >> Is he 40 pounds overweight? Is that what you're trying to tell me? >> I'm I'm 40 pounds overweight for sure.
05:06:36
Lola>> Okay. Yeah. >> I should be 40 pounds less. >> Okay. Then I guess if someone's 40 lbs overweight, I would make a lifestyle judgment. [laughter] >> There you go. Funny how that works. >> I didn't make a claim before because I said I couldn't picture it. Now I can
05:06:49
Brian Atlaspicture it. So I can make >> She's picturing it. Love it. I think women need a wakeup call and realize that they're not nearly as attractive as they think they are. as they think they are. Nick, uh, you'll pull up the
05:07:01
Brian AtlasDiscord here in just a moment. I I also think if we lined up every woman on Earth and put her next to her male looks equivalent, 99% of women would be completely mortified. Um, I think no
05:07:14
Brian Atlasmakeup, >> the average woman doesn't realize she's average. Thus, the average woman does not want to date the average man even though that is her lead. >> Can I can I give a great example of this? Mhm.
05:07:26
Andrew Wilson>> Okay. So, and again, none of this is designed to be mean. It's all we're trying to do is talk about when you when it comes to dating or when it comes to
05:07:34
Andrew Wilsonrelationships that people often have, especially women, a much greater kind of idea about themselves than they should. And that's just because all women get male attention all the time. And it
05:07:48
Andrew Wilsondoesn't really matter how [ __ ] ugly they are or how fat they are, they get male attention. They do. So, the thing is is like I know what my DMs look like. I don't even want to know what her DMs look
05:07:59
Andrew Wilsonlike, okay? But I can [ __ ] tell you that she has three secretaries, okay? So, the thing is is like, and you probably need a secretary and all of you probably need a secretary to
05:08:12
Andrew Wilsongo through all of your DMs, right? That's that's how it works. >> Not a secretary, but like Yeah, there's like >> Yeah, there's a [ __ ] lot. Okay, but that's not you. That's every [ __ ] woman. Right. Not every woman has >> No, it's every woman. I'm telling you.
05:08:25
Andrew Wilson>> Every woman who posts actively on social media is a guess. She literally has three. >> Yeah. Yeah. It was a guess. Okay. I'm just basing it on popularity, right? Versus Yeah, I'm I'm pretty good at it at this point.
05:08:39
Andrew Wilson>> Don't you think more? >> Hang on. Hang on. Let me Let me finish what I'm saying. Go ahead. >> To the viewer out there who's watching this right now, I'm going to tell you a bunch of things that they think that aren't [ __ ] true at all. Okay. Mhm.
05:08:51
Andrew Wilson>> None of you look on that screen like you look when I'm looking at you. None of you. None of you look anything like that. There's enhancement due to the lighting, due to the makeup, due to
05:09:04
Andrew Wilsoneverything that makes you very photogenic above and beyond what you actually look like in person. Now, I know how that sounds, but hang on. Let me finish. Let me finish.
05:09:14
Andrew Wilson>> None of you, right? I though I actually do look about the same, right? Whether you're looking at me there or here, I look about the same. Brian, >> I think you look better in person. >> Maybe I I might actually look better here than I
05:09:27
Andrew Wilson>> look better in person. >> But the thing is is like I'm telling you it does the makeup and everything else does a huge number. And then there's the clothing. So I wear what's comfortable,
05:09:38
Andrew Wilsonright? Not what makes me look great. I make I wear what's comfortable. women they tend to make to wear and they spend hours making sure that their clothing
05:09:48
Andrew Wilsonpresents them in the best light possible. Okay, let me ask you this and I'm going to hope to God you guys tell me the truth, but I'm going to hope. How long did it take you to to pick your
05:10:00
Amouranthoutfit for today's show? >> 10 minutes. >> Okay, that might be true. You >> 10 minutes, but it took longer to actually make it wearable because it was ruined before. >> How much time did you spend on your makeup?
05:10:12
Willow20. >> Nope. >> Oh gosh. >> God damn. >> I'm so sorry. It was like trying to creep through a tiny little space. >> And then And then how much time did you
05:10:24
Andrew Wilsonspend on your makeup? >> Probably about 40 minutes. >> Don't toss that makeup back. 10 or 15 on picking the suit after the color recommendation. >> How much time did you spend on your makeup? >> I'm not wearing makeup. >> Yeah. None. >> I promise you I'm not.
05:10:37
Andrew Wilson>> Okay. And then clothes. You just threw on whatever. I picked a shirt out of the back of my car so I wouldn't have to stop home. >> Okay. >> I just have mascara on and like lip gloss. Like literally, I don't wear makeup at all. >> Got it. And then he didn't make any selection for clothing.
05:10:50
Willow>> This I picked out sooner. I got went through a few outfits, but I wanted to be a little more modest. And again, I have self harm scars, so I was in between on like I just wanted >> How much time? >> Well, I live in Chicago, so I packed my outfit like two weeks ago. >> How much time did you spend picking it
05:11:04
Melissa (Bodybuilder)though? >> Um, probably like 30 minutes to an hour cuz I again went through a few outfits. I spent like 40 minutes my makeup and like less than five on picking out my outfit, which is unusual. I usually am
05:11:17
Savannahmore picky with what I wear, but yeah, I was running out the door. So, >> yeah. And then over here, >> uh 10 minutes on my makeup and probably um I went through a few different outfit choices in my head over the past few days contemplating, but this morning I wanted to go with something that was
05:11:29
Andrew Wilsoncomfortable. 10-minute choice. >> And then here, >> no [snorts] makeup and my boyfriend chose my dress. >> Okay, got it. The point is though is like I spent exactly 30 seconds picking my [ __ ] outfit and then ran out the
05:11:42
Andrew Wilsondoor and came over here, right? I combed my hair. That was it. It took about uh 1 minute, right? The the distinction is is that I guess what I'm trying to demonstrate is that it's not just the
05:11:53
Andrew Wilsonidea that everything is photogenic and enhanced and uh there's makeup involved and and there's outfit selection involved. There's also augmentation that's usually involved. Women have all sorts of augmentations that they give
05:12:05
Andrew Wilsonthemselves. constantly boob enhancements, butt enhancements, lipo suction, all kinds of [ __ ] right? Men don't do any of that. And I feel like if none of that is present to equalize,
05:12:17
Andrew Wilsonright, that generally I actually don't know that women in modernity are the fairer sex. And I don't I'm not actually confident that um that it is the case
05:12:28
Andrew Wilsonthat this kind of like overwhelming sense that they have that they're just gorgeous. All of them seem to think so is is justified or founded.
05:12:38
Brian Atlas>> I mean a woman can feel like fully okay. >> I think most women Andrew related related to dating this assessment, right?
05:12:50
Brian AtlasMost women, I think, are trying to date well above what their looks, their prospects, and their personalities warrant. If we have we have a 31-year-old, and again, I'm not saying this to be mean.
05:13:02
Brian AtlasI'm just it's it's the truth. We have a 31-year-old woman who's overweight who thinks her league is Ryan Gosling. I'm s I'm surprised nobody else here
05:13:13
Brian Atlasfinds that insane. >> I'm not even talking about his status. I'm not talking about his personality. I'm not talking about his fame. Just on his looks, the guy the guy is
05:13:25
Brian Atlasphysically fit. The guy is physically fit. Just on that basis alone, you should be like, I'm overweight. There's no way I'm in Ryan Gosling's league. But even if we're
05:13:38
Brian Atlaslooking at totality, we're looking at you combine body with facial attractiveness. That's crazy to me. And then there was that I forgot that other guy Drew or whatever the [ __ ] But Ryan, is that because is that because Ry someone who
05:13:51
Andrew Wilsonwould look like a Ryan Gosling would have sex with him? Isn't that what isn't that why the sense comes in of like they can women can have sex with a guy that looks like Ryan Gosling even if
05:14:04
Brian AtlasRyan Gosling's way out of their league, but they can't net him. >> Confirmation bias. >> Yeah. >> Well, yeah. You shouldn't confuse uh
05:14:15
Brian Atlassexual like sexual interest with relationship interest. Like just because he'll dick you down doesn't mean he's going to wife you up >> cuz Ryan Gosling's there and you're there and that's good enough, right? So it's like >> right
05:14:28
Amouranth>> that that but that's >> but then like you're also equating some value in there when you say relationship because like there's probably some guy who's probably [ __ ] not very bright, not very good family who looks like him because all he knows is broad
05:14:41
Andrew Wilsonand work out and has all his bro science mechanics who probably would wife a girl up like that. >> It's possible. >> Yeah. >> But it's not it's not it's not as >> it's not the average though for sure. >> It's not the light it's not likely. Wait, wait. I have something to say cuz
05:14:53
Shonaearlier you were talking about like how long women spend on like how they look and like this is a conversation I've had with Brian once, but like don't men like spend a lot of time in the gym also to be perceived as more attractive?
05:15:05
Andrew Wilson>> Well, like steroids >> the motivations I I'll agree with you that there's a big motivation for men to go to the gym so that they look good for the opposite sex. But what I found is
05:15:17
Andrew Wilsonwhen men start really persistently going to the gym, they actually start doing it after a while to beat themselves. They want to they want to get to that next tier of I can, oh man, I I got on the
05:15:28
Andrew Wilsonhundreds on the barbells from the '9s, right? They actually start looking at it for a different form of motivation once they hit a peak or once they hit like um a certain level where they're like, "Okay, I look good, but I'm going to
05:15:40
Andrew Wilsonkeep going because I, you know, I want to I want to challenge myself." A and they don't do the augmentations. Like there's no they don't Where are all the men with the nose jobs? Where are all the men with the the butt padding? Where
05:15:53
Shonalike they're just nowhere. They don't do all the augmentations. The best that you get out of a man is a beard. >> I also just want to say, and you're probably going to disagree with this, but like I could give a personal example. I started putting effort into my appearance years ago when I was super
05:16:06
Shonainsecure because I wanted to be perceived by other people a certain way. And I started to detach from that. And now, I mean, again, men won't believe this, but like when I put effort into my appearance, I want to feel good about how I look. And it's
05:16:17
Andrew Wilson>> Look, look, I don't dispute that that's the case. Okay? I'm just saying you have some advantages right now that you're not going to have in 20 years. The biggest advantage that you're [ __ ] 18, right? It's a huge advantage. You
05:16:30
Andrew Wilsondon't have all the same worries that women who are 20 years your senior have, right? And they have a lot of worries. Their metabolism begins to slow down. um it becomes much more difficult for them
05:16:42
Andrew Wilsonto bounce back from even basic things like a night out drinking with the friends, right? Stuff like that. Like you have every advantage right now. You can go pound all the [ __ ] booze with the girlfriends all night long, wake up the next day, your hangover's gone by
05:16:55
Andrew Wilson12:00. >> Wait, I get really hung over >> by by 12:00. It's gone. You you go and you eat you eat the [ __ ] breakfast at the you know hangover shack or whatever and you're basically fine in a day,
05:17:07
Andrew Wilsonright? But again, 20 years your senior, not the case. Um, burning off fat, not easy. Every like you're a you're a bodybuilder every year. It's just a little bit [ __ ] hard or a lot harder
05:17:18
Melissa (Bodybuilder)than the year before, right? >> Yeah. I mean, >> the mic. >> Sorry. Um, I mean, there's things that we do very specifically with diet, nutrition, and um, other compounds that
05:17:29
Melissa (Bodybuilder)it doesn't make it easier. >> Yeah. I mean, you got to work hard and understand how it works, but yeah, it's a it's a science. I mean you have to look at blood work even someone totally natural you have to look at >> but as you age it gets more difficult right >> yeah you have to look at your hormones
05:17:43
Andrew Wilson>> yeah it gets more difficult and it's like so you have some advantages that people that that women aren't going to have you know 20 years you're senior and this is the point right this is the entire point is like
05:17:54
Andrew Wilson>> the fact that women will assign themselves at 35 the same value and beauty standards that you have right now at 18 is what Brian's alluding to. He's
05:18:05
Shonalike just how how do we get to that? How do we get to this form of self-d delusion? >> The way I see it is like you can you can acknowledge that society or like a 100,000 men are going to view you a certain way and still really like how
05:18:18
Shonayou look and not in a way that's diluted. You can genuinely be comfortable and secure and like look the way you want to. Like again for my personal example, I gave a number like that society would assign me, but like I I wouldn't want to look like society's
05:18:32
Andrew Wilson10. Like I like >> Well, it's interesting because the beauty choices that you make though, >> tend to line up, interestingly enough. They tend to line up, interestingly enough, with societal standards for
05:18:44
Andrew Wilsonbeauty, don't they? For instance, I can give you an example. You have long hair. >> Cuz I I also like how long hair looks. >> Sure. But isn't it convenient that also men like how long hair looks? And
05:18:56
Andrew Wilsonperhaps you do makeup to make your eyes look bigger. Isn't it convenient that men also like when women's eyes look it's like almost everything you would do to make yourself look more attractive to yourself happens to also be things that
05:19:09
Shonathe opposite sex finds attractive. >> You know what's interesting about that is like a lot of men actually don't like the fact that I wear makeup and they they find that makes me like less attractive cuz they like natural women >> a lot >> or like a lot of men just >> a lot
05:19:21
Andrew Wilson>> a lot of men prefer natural >> women. Who turns you down for a date because they're like too much makeup. >> I don't ask for to go on dates. I know. Who's ever? Yeah. But no, men aren't avoiding you because you have too much makeup on. >> What I'm saying is I'm
05:19:33
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Hang on. Are men avoiding you because you have too much makeup on? >> No. >> No. >> But I'm sure there's men out there who would not like you. >> So, really quick on this. You said that. Well, what's wrong with viewing yourself in this confident way? What's wrong with viewing yourself as a 10?
05:19:47
Brian Atlas>> Except the delusion. >> Well, Hold on, hold on, hold on. >> God damn. Holy [ __ ] >> Be quiet. Go ahead. In order for there to be a 10, does there have to be a nine?
05:20:00
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. I mean, I would >> Does there need to be an eight? Does there need to be a seven? Does there six 5 4 3 2 1? So, this idea that but it's how I feel about myself. That's great. But when
05:20:13
Brian Atlaswe're using the 10, >> I wouldn't use a scale in that context, >> right? But if we're using the 10 metric, if you say you're a 10, that that that would imply somewhere out there exists a one, exists a two, exists a three, etc., etc. >> That's why I wouldn't use the scale in
05:20:26
Andrew Wilsonthe context of like evaluating how you feel about yourself and not in society. >> What if we asked the question this way, just out of curiosity, >> if you had 100,000 men who were rating
05:20:35
Andrew Wilsonyou and you average them and it was only three that you got, three, and it was not beautiful, beautiful, gorgeous, right? Would every woman here put
05:20:47
Andrew Wilsonthemselves in the beautiful category or the >> out of >> out of just three? You just have three. You just have not beautiful, beautiful, and then gorgeous. That's it. >> Wouldn't you do not beautiful, average, and then gorgeous? Wouldn't that make more sense?
05:20:59
Andrew Wilson>> Sure. Let's do four. Not beautiful, average. Beautiful, or gorgeous. Where do all of you fall there? >> Gorgeous, average. I don't know. >> Average
05:21:11
Andrew Wilson>> maybe. >> So, so does that seem like five? >> Sure. Okay. >> I already said like according to society what? >> Yeah, that's all I'm saying. >> Yeah, I said that earlier. >> Does that change your guys's answers at all? No. Would you put yourself at gorgeous? >> Yes. >> Gorgeous.
05:21:24
Willow>> I'd say beautiful. >> Beautiful.
05:21:30
Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> I mean, okay. I have my own perception of myself. >> Sure. And then perception of you know >> when I walk into a place like I get
05:21:40
Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> I am a spectacle >> and I don't know if I guess that's cuz my body like I don't >> well looks different >> my friends tell me I'm pretty you know like
05:21:51
Andrew Wilson>> sure >> I've gotten gorgeous I would call myself beautiful >> okay but you same thing like beautiful gorgeous right >> I would say beautiful
05:22:02
Andrew Wilson>> okay so that's Fair. The thing is about this, I guess maybe that drives me crazy because I've been on so many of these panels talking to different women about
05:22:11
Andrew Wilsonthis. You know that guy like the gym rat or even he's not a gym rat, he's just like an arrogant [ __ ] who's always in front of the mirror and he's always like [ __ ] lifting and he's always priming and looking at himself and [ __ ] like
05:22:23
Andrew Wilsonit's just an egocentric [ __ ] right? Women seem like they hate that guy. And that most women I talk to, they are that guy. They're doing the same [ __ ] They're like in front of the [ __ ]
05:22:36
Andrew Wilsonmirror and they're pimping and they put on all the little makeup and they [ __ ] they do all the [ __ ] in order to give the best foot forward appearance possible. And it's like, is that ego? >> I hope that all men think they're beautiful.
05:22:49
Brian Atlas>> You know what? Here, we'll do something super simple here. Nick, pull up the Discord, please. and you're going to scroll up to uh right below the Evangeline Lily. Okay. The uh the the girl with the other
05:23:02
Brian Atlasgirl outside. And we're going to look at all these photos cuz people say, you know, it's very beauty is very uh subjective. Very subjective. Uh make it bigger if you can. I think if you click
05:23:13
Brian Atlason it, you should All right. And then can you mouse wheel scroll up a little bit? There you go. Scroll down a little bit. We don't need all that poem. I'm just curious like
05:23:23
Lolawhich which woman's more attractive? >> The one on the left. >> How about you? >> What do you think? >> I don't find either of them very attractive, but probably the left.
05:23:36
Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> I would say the left. >> I agree. Left. >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. I mean, people often fight me
05:23:44
Brian Atlason this one. I guess that's good. What? But if I think I think if I show
05:23:52
Brian Atlasevery man on earth this picture 99.999999% of them would pick the woman on the left perhaps this would >> I think 100%
05:24:03
Brian Atlas>> perhaps perhaps this wouldn't establish in your from your guys' view an objective component to beauty but it would establish universal a universal >> so what are the >> at least that's compared to another
05:24:18
Brian Atlas>> right >> yeah so that means there's some kind of standard there. >> What is it about the woman on the left where so many people can agree that she's more attractive? We have some more photos, though. Um, let's see the rest.
05:24:31
Brian Atlas>> For me, it's like her nose. >> Just the next one. We're just going to go next to next to next. Uh, we have Sydney Sweeney here. Whi which woman is more attractive? And by the Well, go ahead.
05:24:44
Brian Atlas>> Sydney Sweeney. >> Left or right? >> Left. Which one's moreive? >> Left. >> It's left. >> Well, [laughter] I feel weird asking a dude. I don't >> actually that makes sense, right?
05:24:57
Courtney>> It's not even a question. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Uh, left. >> Yeah. >> Just same for all you guys. No. >> I I'm I'm imposed. I'm imposed that it's cultural
05:25:09
Brian Atlasnorming. >> Wait, so you agree? Well, which Tell me which culture. Kindly tell me which culture >> I rebel against. It's not. >> Yeah. Which culture would prefer? >> I've been feeling like they have to be nice to everyone all the time or else
05:25:22
Brian AtlasGod will smite them in their place. I don't understand. >> Which which culture? >> Which culture? >> Yeah. Which culture would prefer the chick on the right? >> You said you said it's culturally different and you said you agree. Which
05:25:33
Courtneyculture is the one on the right? The smoke show. And >> she looks like she's actually like a Native American. Maybe even um I I forget the Alaskan like term. Does that mean you have to be beautiful if you're of a certain ethnicity now? Well, I'm
05:25:46
Courtneyjust curious if that would mean like if from we're if we are from American standards pressing upon people that this is what Hollywood's standard of beauty is.
05:25:58
Brian Atlas>> Wait, hold on. This doesn't even make sense. This is I can >> I can >> You have a preference. >> Wait, wait. I still have a preference. >> I can look >> He's been too Americanized.
05:26:09
Brian Atlas>> He Yeah, it's I can look I am white. I am white. I can look at a white woman and think she's ugly and I can look at a Latina, a black, an Asian woman and
05:26:21
Andrew Wilsonthink she's beautiful. So this I don't understand this idea surface level interpretation of the comment ever. >> There can be >> beauty is pretty surface level. It's on the surface. >> I understand but it's it's still quite a complicated.
05:26:34
Lola>> I don't think it's that complic complicated referring to >> I'm sorry I'm not the one who used that wording. I I guess I wouldn't 100% agree. there is like a yeah a standpoint that I would come from there. But >> how about this one? Let's do the next one. Nick,
05:26:46
Andrew Wilson>> do you think that like let's just say for a second, let's just say that you were you you were like raised in the middle of the Amazon jungle, okay, where like I don't know, chicks put rings on
05:26:58
Andrew Wilsontheir neck and [ __ ] and like extend their necks and the draft neck thing. You know what I mean? This this is all you had ever experienced. Okay. >> And one day those two women show up.
05:27:09
Andrew WilsonWhich one do you think the tribal men would prefer to have sexual intercourse with? Just intuitively >> over neck >> like [laughter] >> Yeah. Just like >> just intu intuitively they have about
05:27:22
Andrew Wilsonthe same size neck. >> I I don't think that we're intuitive. I I don't think that we're born thinking that people who look like Sydney Sweeney. >> So I just want I just want your official answer is you're not sure that they would prefer to sleep with Sydney Sweeney. >> Yes, that is my official answer. >> Okay.
05:27:35
Brian Atlas>> Uh let's let's do the next one, Nick. >> Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah. Because because you're both >> How about How about this one? Left or right? Which woman is more attractive? >> The right.
05:27:47
Brian Atlas>> Both pretty symmetrical. [laughter] >> It sounds like you were going to say something. >> No, no, no. I mean, there's a very obvious answer, but what's >> What's the obvious answer? >> The woman on the right is [laughter] marginal. >> Okay, but yeah. So, what were you going to say?
05:28:00
Lola>> Did I just earn that? >> You did. [laughter] >> Guys, let her speak. >> No, it's all right. It's it's um honestly it's a discussion we already had when I was here last time and I I don't know how interesting it'll be. >> Well, just really quickly,
05:28:12
Brian Atlas>> uh I I do find it interesting that it is very intentional that the attractive example is always a white woman. >> Just wait. We'll get to that because I get this criticism, but I I understand what you're saying. So So you're saying,
05:28:22
Brian Atlas"Well, Brian, hold on. It's unfair that you're you're being selective in your uh here. You're you're you're picking an ugly colored woman or woman of color. I don't know if that's a whatever." uh
05:28:34
Lolaversus like a beautiful white woman. That's like you're kind of being racist or whatever. >> Well, I'm not even saying that it's it's being racist, but I I do definitely think that it goes to show that like a
05:28:44
Brian Atlaslot of people do find white people more attractive. Well, unless if you have a different example, I will stand correct. >> Just really quick before we get into the next thing, everybody, was it the woman on the left or the right? Anybody do what do you think?
05:28:57
Courtney>> I think we're again pressing our own normative like white normative agendas too. >> What does that mean? white northern sounds like childhood trauma to me. I'm not sure. >> It means that she thinks that it's
05:29:09
Courtneyculturally relative and some cultures would actually find the woman on the left to be more attractive than the one on the right based on cultural standards. >> I mean, for example, I don't I don't think women who wear makeup are
05:29:21
Brian Atlasparticularly very pretty. I think they're just compensating for their own insecurities. >> What if makeup chose to wear makeup? >> And here, so you can't make a determination. Pull up the photo again. You can't make a determination that the
05:29:33
Courtneywoman >> I have an opinion but I think it's >> What's your opinion? >> I think it's neither here nor there though. >> You were able to do what the other woman. >> Well, it's at least here or there. >> Chose Oh, I actually I'm just saying that
05:29:46
Brian Atlas>> if he called your husband, what would he say? He's the master. You have to defer to his opinion. Right. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, he grew up in America. So, what can you say? >> So, what's your I guess what's your criticism though about the cult white normativity or whatever? What is that?
05:29:58
Courtney>> Yeah. We're pressing our own standards of beauty and this is what this is the uh privilege we get being so mediaentric in America that we can now determine
05:30:10
Courtneywhat is beautiful. But consider when we were in the Renaissance it's like fat people were actually looked up as like >> that's [ __ ] >> What what do you mean >> that's total [ __ ] Well, there weren't there weren't very many fat people in the Renaissance. They looked at them for their money.
05:30:24
Amouranth>> Beautiful. >> Save money. >> Nonetheless, are the only ones had pictures painted of them. They were the ones who could afford to eat. >> Um, here. But just to be fair, because there's this criticism, O'Brien, you're
05:30:35
Brian Atlascomparing a beautiful white woman to a whatever. Nick, let's let's go into the next. And I know this is AI, but I can sit here and say the black woman is clearly it's AI obviously, clearly more
05:30:46
Brian Atlasattractive than the white woman. Next, No, just just go to it. >> Okay. >> Next.
05:30:55
Brian Atlas>> Uh, make a smaller, please. Uh, okay. The black woman is clearly clearly more attract in in my white heteronormative
05:31:05
Brian Atlas[ __ ] [ __ ] whatever. Societ, white normativity. Yeah. The black woman is more beautiful than the white woman. What do you have to say to that? >> Unless you're breeding for big noses, perhaps so you can smell. you talking
05:31:18
Courtneyabout >> better? You maybe maybe >> Okay, don't give me a troll answer. Don't give me a troll answer. Give me a real answer. >> I mean, obviously I grew up in America. I'm going to think right. Pull it back up real quick. You really are pressing me for an answer. But I think beauty is
05:31:32
Brian Atlasstill subjective. >> Wait, but hold on. Hold on. Is this my white normativity that is making me say that the black woman on the right is more attractive than the white woman on the left? Is that my white? >> I think that's her cultural upbringing.
05:31:44
CourtneyYeah, I think that can easily change if the populace was more about having >> perhaps mountainous features >> resulted in me determining that the black woman
05:31:56
Courtney>> maybe mountainous features will actually be better if you're surviving. >> Pull up the next one, Nick. >> I can continue. >> Continue. Go ahead. Well, I don't know if you're just giving me troll answers
05:32:07
Brian Atlasat this point. Halib Berry way more attractive than the white woman on the left. Mhm. >> Let's see the next one. >> There's got to be a culture that loves the white woman on the left, though, right?
05:32:19
Brian Atlas>> Um, she doesn't She looks like she's missing dentures. >> Stacy Dash, a beautiful black woman, is more beautiful than that white woman. [laughter] >> So, this look that
05:32:31
Andrew Wilson>> one has professional photography. The other one looks like a snapshot from the8s. >> We also I guess >> I'm not sure that you could professional that out. Um, >> here. Just saying. >> Maybe maybe if she was sitting >> skip down to the guys. >> All that camera work.
05:32:45
Brian Atlas>> Maybe. >> Maybe. >> Uh, how about this? Let's go to guys. Uh, Jonah Hill. Or you know what? Just X out that entirely. >> Uh, a black man more attractive than a white man. Scroll down though. Oh, Brad
05:32:58
Brian AtlasPitt. I think he's more attractive than that Latino man. And then in this case, there's a white woman who's more attractive than black woman. So, I mean, look, >> congratulations.
05:33:07
Lola>> Wait, no. I do. I find Jonah Hill more attractive. >> Run away from you. >> I knew it wasn't worth saying. >> You're such a coper. You're just coping. >> Jonah Hill is more attractive than
05:33:20
LolaMichael B. Jordan. I >> I think in that specific photo, yes. >> So you're racist. That's insane in this. >> So you're just saying you're racist. >> I never claimed that Brian was racist. I did say, however, that he showed a tendency to find white women more
05:33:31
Lolaattractive until he had a tendency to find to find white men. No, but I think that many images back to back to back that are trying to prove that these white women are more attractive than like it would have been different if it if there was one photo of two white
05:33:44
Brian Atlaswomen and then I pointed it out and you said, "Wait, no, I can give you these examples." So, I stopped talking cuz I understand. >> Well, I Yeah, but I could I could find also like an ugly white woman and a beautiful white woman. Sure. >> Who do you think you have a better
05:33:55
Amouranthchance with, Jonah Hill or Michael? >> Uh, realistically neither. >> Okay, that's not the question. Um, >> if you were gonna if you were going to decide that, say you were in a room with them and you
05:34:08
Lolahad to make a decision, but you knew they had to make the answer. You knew they had to make the answer. >> Yeah, of course. Jonah Hill. >> Well, because I know how society perceives them. I can understand that. So, I know that Jonah Hill probably fat. >> Yes, I understand.
05:34:19
Andrew Wilson>> Yeah, that No, it's not. It's just it's how all societies would perceive it. All societal women would be like, "Oh, I have way better chance with the fat guy." What I am saying is that I personally don't find it less
05:34:31
Lolaattractive, but I agree with you that there is like a general consensus that most people would find that less attractive. I understand. >> Final thing here, I'm going to try to move this along. Um, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time? >> If Jonah Hill were here, he would agree with me.
05:34:44
Brian Atlas>> I think women are most beautiful like around 27 28. >> Okay. What about in 20 years 38? >> Then no. >> Uh, Kate, you're 31. Better looking in 10 years time. 31. No. >> And then Kate, uh, were you better looking at 21 10 years ago versus now?
05:34:56
SPEAKER_09>> I don't know. I think I feel like he should answer that cuz I my perception could be warped from the amount of >> You're so [ __ ] dude. You're so [ __ ] right now. I can't wait. >> Scoot scoot into the table a little bit. >> Don't lie, bro. Don't lie. >> Back on, by the way.
05:35:08
Nick Lee>> Yeah, [laughter] I'll know if you're lying. >> Um >> uh >> so what was that? 21 when you like first met me? >> No, I'll be honest here. No, like I definitely think Well, so no, that's that's tough. Like um [laughter]
05:35:23
Nick Lee>> 25 better. Okay, that's [laughter] fair. That's fair. >> Oh boy, that's going to be a long >> I I feel like you weasled your way out of that, you know. I do. >> So, I'm better than 21 though. >> Well, cuz when she was 21, she was
05:35:36
Nick Leeextremely poor. Like, everything was uh from Walmart. Like, I'm not even exaggerating a little bit, right? Like, and she, you know, >> I I would say my health was worse when I was 21. Like, I was very thin. >> Sure. >> Super thin.
05:35:48
Andrew Wilson>> Okay. Uh better looking. And I guess for >> Actually, no. We can't let you get away. From your perspective, better looking at 21 or 31?
05:36:00
Brian Atlas>> Oh, I definitely think 31 than 21. >> Okay. Uh, for you, better, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time? >> Uh, hopefully the same, but probably less. >> Probably the same. >> And then better looking now or better looking at 26? >> Uh, 26.
05:36:12
Andrew Wilson>> Uh, you're 20, better looking at 30? >> Yeah. >> 40? >> Yes. >> 50? >> Yes. >> 60? Yes. >> 70? >> Yes. >> 80? >> Yes. >> Well, you look better in your casket. Real funny 100.
05:36:25
Andrew Wilson>> No, I'm serious. Would you if after you were prepared >> if they were a skeleton? >> No. In your casket after >> So I'm already I'm dead. >> You're dead. But they've gone ahead and they've like you know they've done what
05:36:36
Andrew Wilsonundertakers do to make your cheeks rosy and things like that. You're going to be Are you going to look better then than you do right now? >> Maybe if they do a good job. >> I can't take it, man. I can't have
05:36:49
Lola>> Will I be more attractive to the general consensus? No. I can acknowledge that. >> NO, NO, NO. >> I'M I'M STUNNED. >> IF I was older than I am now, >> it's crazy that people are out here farming these answers when I'm the only one with no f. I don't understand. [laughter]
05:37:03
Lola>> I don't know. >> Like, what is the game? >> I I really do genuinely >> looking at 100. >> Uh I I will be dead. And >> no, you might be alive at 100. >> I'm not making it that far. >> You don't you don't know what I do.
05:37:14
Lola>> What do you do, Matt? What do you do? >> Um no, I mean, if I make it to I I truly I don't think that I will be more attractive. They're different words. I want to specify that I do not think I'll be more attractive in 10 years.
05:37:27
WillowI think it is beautiful to age. I think wrinkles are beautiful. I think >> All right. What about you? >> I would be probably about the same in 10 years. But 10 years ago, I think I actually was worst looking cuz I was
05:37:40
Willowobese most of my life. And then I didn't hit my prime until like like honestly like last year or anything. I've been like in my healthiest. I work out the most. I take care of myself the most now. So, okay. So, you'll be better
05:37:52
Brian Atlaslooking at 37 versus now. 27. What about 20 years? 47. >> No, I think I'll definitely be declining by then. Yeah. >> And then, uh, 27 versus 18, better looking now.
05:38:03
Brian Atlas>> Yes. Yeah. I was not good-looking. >> You're 28, better looking at 38? >> Yes. I'm going to work some peptide magic. >> Somewhat peptide magic. >> Peptide. [laughter] Uh, 48, 20 years. >> No. >> And then, were you better looking at 18
05:38:16
Brian Atlasor better looking now? >> No. Do you, by the way, do you post like when did you start bodybuilding? Um, >> what age? >> When I was 16. >> Oh, 16. Okay. So, by the time you were like 18 or 20, were you already pretty real?
05:38:29
Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> I was I was I mean, I started lifting when I was 12. >> Okay. >> Um, I was always pretty >> Are you Are you natty? >> Not now. >> When did you start taking uh uh PEDs?
05:38:40
Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> PD in 2020. So after like >> I started body I did my first show in 2014 and then the year before I turned pro is when I started peeds.
05:38:52
Brian Atlas>> Really quick question on the ped thing. Um >> does it Nick knows what um does it grow things [sighs] like down there? >> It can. Um
05:39:05
Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> like a giant big [ __ ] >> It really depends on the person. I haven't had issues with it. I mean definitely more swelling when on gear >> swelling. >> Yeah. >> of the
05:39:18
Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> Yeah. >> But I look I've been very lucky like I although the internet might say otherwise I have a very feminine face in bodybuilding. Okay. >> Um
05:39:30
Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> and uh you just you have to be smart with your protocols. >> But it changed your voice too, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. I found a video uh from when I the year but right before I started peeds and I'm like talking to my dog. My
05:39:43
Melissa (Bodybuilder)voice is I can't go that high now. I have >> Oh wow. >> I have Annabar voice for sure. >> Do you Does that distress you at all? Like the voice change? >> Not even a little bit. >> Nothing at all. >> It like I >> I mean people are like, "Oh, like you
05:39:56
Melissa (Bodybuilder)destroyed your voice to get that physique. Like it's not worth it." like maybe not to you, but I'm doing very well at my craft and um I've been very
05:40:07
Melissa (Bodybuilder)uh I think intelligent in my protocols and um yeah, I have no Okay, I will say my upper body I love the way I look and
05:40:18
Melissa (Bodybuilder)it's really cool and I'm doing something very specific, but when I'm 38 by that time I will reduce this. I want to be able to wear like a freaking blazer or something. Okay. >> But um
05:40:30
Brian Atlas>> I am completely confident in my ability to manipulate and control through science. >> Okay. >> But yeah, >> can I can you do like the Hulk Hogan and
05:40:40
Brian Atlasthen like uh like Yeah, brother. [laughter] >> I don't want to. >> Okay. Sorry. Sorry. That was that was ridiculous ask. >> Um yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. [snorts] Um [laughter] better looking in 10 years for you?
05:40:54
Brian Atlas>> Um no, I don't think so. >> Okay. And you're 31? Better looking at uh 21? >> Uh probably. Yeah. >> Okay. You're 31, right? 31. Were you better looking uh better looking at 41? Will you be better looking at 41? >> Yeah.
05:41:06
Courtney>> Uh 51. >> Yeah. Yes. All the way through. >> 71. >> Yes. All the way. >> 81. >> Does I just prefer organic? And I think >> 91 >> natural people, you know. >> 101. >> Okay. No. No. At that point, I'll say
05:41:19
Brian Atlasno. >> But just to be clear, so you're 31. You think you'll be better looking at 51 than you are now at 31? >> Yeah, there's a lot of very good-looking
05:41:29
Courtney50 year olds. My goodness. But I mean, I hope to be on the echelon. However, like compared to now, maybe. But you know what? I'm going to love myself nonetheless. >> Okay. If you're a one right now, what will you be when you're 50? >> Oh my gosh.
05:41:42
Brian Atlas>> What number will you How about this? >> Now I'm confused. >> Were you better looking 10 years ago at 21? >> I don't think so. >> Better looking now. Okay. Well, uh, you
05:41:51
Brian Atlasknow, we for a little fun segment here. We've AI aged advanced all of you. So, we're going to pull that up super quick. Um, we have a message t. Uh, hold on. Uh, Felicity, can I have you read the
05:42:04
SPEAKER_04this >> to Taylor Lift and chair 6, your physique is incredible. You've worked hard and it's paid off. >> Thank you. >> Uh, Chvsky, thank you for that, man. Appreciate the message. And then we have
05:42:16
SPEAKER_04one more from JM Bane. If you can read this one. >> Change my mind. The lift of adulthood when you can sign contacts, join the military, own firearms, drink alcohol,
05:42:28
Brian Atlasdrive a car, etc. should be raised to 25 because that's when the brain finishes maturing. >> Interesting. Thank you for the message.
05:42:38
Brian AtlasUh Nick, go ahead. We're going to pull up all the age advancements right now. Oh, >> okay. >> I think you look adorable.
05:42:51
SPEAKER_09>> Next. >> Thanks. >> Oh, hell yeah. >> Yeah, you're going to age beautifully. >> Damn. >> He's going to look exactly the same. Watch. He's going to look exactly the same. >> Uh, next. Oh, whoops.
05:43:04
Andrew Wilson>> Yeah. >> Oh, sexy. >> I like it. >> Look like a mafia. >> It's actually an awesome picture of you, >> dude. You're about to [ __ ] You're about to break the board, bro. [laughter]
05:43:17
Brian Atlas>> Oh, we'll be breaking boards at 80. Let's go. >> A >> You You said a >> So that's like maybe 71 81 there. >> I think she's a cutie patootie.
05:43:28
Lola>> All right. Love it. Uh next. >> A really like this segment. I really liked it last time, too. >> Yeah, it's fun. >> It's cute. >> Sort of. Um next. >> It's actually way better than I thought. >> You're still going to be buff. You're still going to be jacked. Oh yeah,
05:43:41
Brian Atlas>> wait, wait. [snorts] >> Do we have Do you have the the other thing, Nick? Really quick, since we're on her thing. >> No, no, no. The the cartoon. >> Oh, yeah, I do. >> Oh, I saw that.
05:43:54
Brian Atlas>> Did you Did you cartoon us? >> Yeah, I'll give you a second. >> The cartoon, >> you got [laughter] it. Uh, here really quick. Oh, >> that's awesome. >> I like it. >> And then Yeah, the other one too.
05:44:08
Brian Atlas>> Sick. >> I like those. Thank you. >> There you go. There you go. We'll send it to you if you want. Um uh and then you're let me know when you're back. You're good. >> Okay. >> A
05:44:21
Lola>> not pleased. Okay. I >> I don't understand why we're not happy about this. >> Okay. Next. >> Dude, we're all going to age adorably. >> Like a dude. >> No, you don't. Wait. Just >> cuz your hair's pulled back.
05:44:35
Lola>> It's just cuz my hair's pulled back. >> It gave you a receding hairline. Really did. >> Next. [laughter] Okay. >> I like that you're crosseyed in it. >> Oh, wow. They >> Noah, pull that one back. >> What do you mean? I look like my old man. >> The middle one looks like Russell Crow,
05:44:48
Brian Atlas[laughter] right? >> You're going to age very well. >> You You have darker blue eyes, Andrew. They like gave you ice gray eyes that are quite striking. >> I like that the microphone becomes part of your face in the last one.
05:45:00
Andrew Wilson>> That is true. [laughter] Andrew has been doing [gasps] >> Do you think I'll get the the old man voice where you're like when you talk? >> I hope so. That's the old man boys for sure. >> Oh boy. >> I don't understand these [ __ ] kids.
05:45:13
Andrew Wilson>> Next. >> Damn. >> You're going to age adorably. What do you mean? >> That's Yeah. >> Nice. I'll be sitting here with both of us looking like that in [ __ ] 40.
05:45:24
Andrew Wilson>> Imagine that [ __ ] [laughter] >> Okay, I will be remiss. I have to ask, and this is only because the [ __ ] chat keeps getting flooded with it until I ask. They won't shut the [ __ ] up about it. You're not a T, right? Not a what? >> A T.
05:45:38
Andrew Wilson>> No. >> Oh, cool. Okay. Thank you. >> It's a woman. Andrew, what the [ __ ] >> bro? Sorry. The chat won't shut the [ __ ] Okay, now you know. >> It's Instagram's favorite. >> She She She is a woman.
05:45:52
Andrew Wilson>> Female. >> I can prove it. Female. >> You can prove it. >> We all get banned. >> She's going to whip out the giant clip. That's what she's [laughter] >> Oh my god. >> Because of the >> Just put ones in the [ __ ] chat. I
05:46:03
Brian Atlasasked. Just I did. Okay. So, just put the ones in. I did. >> Oh, and then we've uh we've gender swapped all of you. So,
05:46:14
Brian Atlas>> yeah. Uh, you got that? >> Whoa. >> So, the question is, would you date the male version of you? >> His features look all warped and stuff because of the filter. >> Yeah, but you got to use your
05:46:28
Brian Atlasimagination. >> You got to suspend disbelief a little bit. It's AI, you know. >> It's not bad. squint and decide. >> Be charitable with it.
05:46:36
SPEAKER_09>> Yeah, maybe. Sure. He's decent looking. >> Okay, next. >> Wow. Okay, there you go. >> What's with the beard, though?
05:46:50
Andrew Wilson>> You don't think I'd be masculine? >> Just a ginger without the beard. >> Oh, yeah. The beard needed to be >> I think the AI knows you're not a red head. I think that's what it is. The AI knows you're not a redhead.
05:47:01
AmouranthIf you weren't married would >> I actually I think it's pretty cute actually. >> All right. Next. Oh. Whoa. Whoa. Okay. >> Oh, she's >> calm down. Damn. >> Holy [ __ ] Calm down.
05:47:13
Andrew Wilson>> I probably would not. [laughter] >> You should have seen the way that Brian looked right then. He was Wow. >> I mean, >> saw this light sparkle in his eye for a second. [laughter]
05:47:25
Brian Atlas>> So, no. Do you don't like Asian? >> Not Not as much. into month. >> Oh, sorry. Not as much. Yeah. >> Next. >> Huh? >> Like a son. What is that?
05:47:36
Shona>> I would date him. He's cute. Wait, he's really fine. Hello. [laughter] Would you date him? That's like my type. >> Okay. Next.
05:47:49
Willow>> A I wouldn't date him. I think he's cute, but he's not my type at all. >> Wait, you would or wouldn't? >> I wouldn't. No, just cuz he's too dorky. He's going to be thumping about some Protestant Bible stuff by tomorrow.
05:48:00
Willow>> Why is my photo so butchered? [laughter] I feel like it was like bad from the start. >> Yeah. I don't know why it made you >> It didn't look like that [laughter] in the video. >> He's going to tell you that his
05:48:11
Willowinterpretation is that you can have female pastors. I guarantee it. >> The hair is just horrible. I like guys with long hair like dreads. Specifically dreads. [laughter] >> Oh.
05:48:22
Lola>> Oh, hey. >> You're catching my drift. I mean, >> he's hot. >> I feel like the base. >> What the [ __ ] is wrong with his side of his head?
05:48:34
Andrew Wilson>> I mean, I can't suspend disbelief that much, [laughter] bro. >> He's like, >> it literally looks like he's been boxing for way too long. [laughter] >> He probably against Mike Tyson. >> Yeah. Yeah. He's got some serious problems this >> Tito Ortiz.
05:48:47
Andrew Wilson>> Yeah, [laughter] Latito Ortiz if he got his side of his face bashed in. Maybe. >> He's beautiful though. >> Thank you. [laughter]
05:48:58
AmouranthNext. >> Yeah, I would date him. >> He does look like that one guy Glenn or whatever his name is. [laughter] >> I think that guy's more attractive than
05:49:09
CourtneyGlenn Powell. >> Okay. Next. >> Feel like I've seen this person before. [laughter] >> Would you date the male version of you?
05:49:21
Andrew Wilson>> Uh, sure. >> Why does he have a stigma? There's like see the eye. He's like, "What the [ __ ] is wrong with him?" >> One eye is bigger than the other. >> He's got it. Well, no. Just like one's
05:49:32
Andrew Wilsonlooking at another person besides the one he's looking at. Uh, [laughter] next. >> Okay. >> She's really cute. It gave you lipstick. >> Lipstick is sex.
05:49:45
SPEAKER_09>> Yeah, the the one on the right. >> Well, I needed I needed the makeup. Let's be real. >> Next. >> Yikes. Whoa. >> What do you mean?
05:49:54
Brian Atlas>> Whoa. >> I don't understand your taste. >> Yeah, I date her. >> Yeah, she's cute. [snorts] >> What do you mean? That's That's from the podcast.
05:50:07
Andrew Wilson>> That is not from the show. >> Well, it's not from this episode, but why? They don't want to redo it every >> Can someone render the AI version of my female self blonde? And then I can reassess. Then I can reassess. >> You need a blonde woman. I
05:50:19
Brian Atlas>> need You got to be blonde. >> Uh, okay. Um, we're going to get finish off the notes, try to get things uh, let's see. >> Did you want to do the dating segment? >> Dating
05:50:31
Brian Atlaspull up Instagram. >> Yes, thank you. We'll do that super quick. Okay, so I'm going to show you two Twitch streamers. Uh, two TW male Twitch streamers. Oh, I shouldn't have said that. >> Yeah. >> Ah, [ __ ] >> It's okay. We can still do it, but
05:50:45
Brian Atlaswhatever. It doesn't really matter that much. The question is and uh and if you're in a relationship, you could be a good sport and answer, but if you're, you know, you're in a
05:50:55
Brian Atlasrelationship, you don't have to answer. Um, but you can. Would you date the following person?
05:51:06
Brian AtlasUh, so scroll up a little bit. Scroll up. So, click the photo with the axe. Okay. X out of that. He looks well adjusted.
05:51:17
Brian Atlas>> Scroll up. [laughter] Scroll up. Just scroll up. So, this guy's Zach. His name's Zach. Uh he uh
05:51:28
Brian Atlashe's a good guy. Good guy. Good man. Good guy. Um >> he plays video games a lot. >> Yeah, he does play a lot of video games. A lot of video games. >> Uh he does have that axe though, so he
05:51:41
Brian Atlascould protect you going around the table. I'm trying to set He's He's my You know, he's my homie, so I'm trying to set him up with a a lady friend. >> Would you would you date? >> No. >> No, you wouldn't date him.
05:51:53
Brian Atlas>> Well, he doesn't run from rats, so I say yes. >> He's not a roach. >> Yeah, he doesn't run from the rats, remember? >> Yeah. >> So, >> coexists. >> Uh I don't know. I guess I could ask you. I mean, if you were >> If I was a girl, probably not.
05:52:06
Brian Atlas>> Or gay, I guess. [laughter] >> No. Uh what about you? >> Yeah, I think so. >> You date him? Okay. Oh, really?
05:52:16
WillowLove is blind. >> I have a boyfriend. >> Oh, right. >> Sorry. Sorry. It's for the fun of the game. >> She would date everybody. Remember, >> would you date him? >> I don't know. He'd have to be like have an interesting personality. >> He's He does have an interesting
05:52:29
Willowpersonality. >> He showers regularly, right? >> Debatable. That's debatable. >> I should ask that first. That's [laughter] like my one thing is like he looks cute, but I just didn't know if he was clean. >> He looks cute. So if he showers though, >> but if he's clean, well, yeah,
05:52:43
Brian Atlas>> he's clean. >> You're When you're a woman, you have to be with men who take care of the >> Well, let's assume he is clean. Would you date him? >> Yeah. >> All right. Uh, all right. There we go. Brush his hair. Would you Would you date him? >> No. >> You don't You don't want to just crush that guy.
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Melissa (Bodybuilder)[laughter] >> Brian, I want to be dominated. >> You want to be dominated? >> Tall order. >> You just looked me up and down. I do. >> Whoa. [laughter] No. I was just like I feel like >> What's happening? Just how much do you
05:53:10
Brian Atlasis it appropriate to ask how much you weigh? I feel like normally that's rude to ask, but I feel like for a bodybuilder it's kind of okay. >> It's fine. >> How much do you weigh? >> 16. My last check in I was like 168. >> 168.
05:53:22
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Or the body fat of >> I don't know. Um probably like 16. >> You want to be dominated. What's >> So like you want to be ravaged. >> Yes.
05:53:35
Brian Atlas>> Ravi ravished. >> Whatever. Radish. Radish. >> Ravished. Radish. I don't know. >> Ravished. >> Can you eat that on your diet? Um, >> radishes. Yeah, >> radishes. [laughter] Uh,
05:53:47
Brian Atlas>> I'm guessing it's mostly meat-based. >> So, do you question though? Would you date a non-bodybuilder? >> Yes. It would have to be, >> but like you could outlift them. >> How do you do that?
05:53:58
Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> No, I I I would by non- bodybuilder, still someone who's extremely fit and disciplined in all areas. Okay. not necessarily um >> like lifting. So they could be athletic like
05:54:10
Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> they have to be athletic, have to know how to take care of themselves, have to like have the discipline of a bodybuilder, but applied across the board to different areas of their life. >> But what if you squat more than them? Is
05:54:22
Brian Atlasthat a problem? Like what if your legs what if your legs are bigger than theirs? >> They won't be. [snorts] >> Wait, >> she won't date anyone with smaller legs. >> Oh, you're saying it's hard to find a guy who has legs bigger than yours. Is
05:54:34
Melissa (Bodybuilder)that what you're saying? Oh, no. He's saying the opposite. >> I'm saying my my pool for who I'm interested in is very small. >> So, their legs have to be bigger than yours. >> They would be if I'm interested.
05:54:46
Brian Atlas>> Well, yeah. Okay. What about arms? Arms have to be bigger than yours. >> Cuz like you got some big arms. I Which I >> I love them for the purpose that they
05:54:57
Melissa (Bodybuilder)have, but I don't want to keep them forever. Um No, a guy could have arms probably equivalent to the size of mine. I feel like that's probably be bigger. Yes.
05:55:07
Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> But so I feel like with the muscle mommy girls or whatever. Um I don't know if you >> take the what the what >> muscle mommy. >> What the [ __ ] is that? Muscle. >> I don't like I think that term is gross.
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Melissa (Bodybuilder)Like I >> No, I I think it's gross too, but I People use it or whatever. >> What What is it? >> A a muscle musc muscle >> like fit chicks. They call themselves muscle mommies. I just I I feel like I'm >> you know how girls >> personally I feel like I'm doing a
05:55:34
Brian Atlasdifferent thing. >> Daddy, >> it's a Zoomer thing. >> It's [laughter] I personally I think the daddy thing is kind of weird. >> It's like a domination. >> I don't think the master's the nuke. Where is it? >> What
05:55:46
Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> the Oh, the nuke has here. Hold on. >> Send it. Yes. Send the nuke. Muscle mommy. >> Good lord. >> Destroyed. Um
05:55:56
Melissa (Bodybuilder)>> but basically I'm a very dominant person but in a relationship. So >> I Yes. Yes. Like just be my master, you know, [laughter] to go back there.
05:56:09
Brian Atlas>> She has a high bar for what's worthy of master, you know? >> Cuz I've heard these dudes who are like, I want you to like squish my head with your thumb. That kind of weird [ __ ] >> So gross. >> Okay. You wouldn't want that.
05:56:23
Brian Atlas>> No. >> Okay. >> No. >> So not Asmin Gold or Zach. You wouldn't date Zach. >> No. I'm sure he's a sweet guy. >> What if he What if he started like getting his squat up there? Like would
05:56:34
Brian Atlasyou maybe like if he was ripped or whatever? Could I Okay. Sorry, Zach. Uh what about you? Would you date Zach? >> Um I didn't see Zach. Can I >> Oh, was she away? >> I was in the bathroom.
05:56:44
Brian Atlas>> Oh, okay. Um nah. What? Sure. Show her really quick. >> Would you Would you date him? >> Um probably not. >> Okay. [laughter] Um would you date him if you were single?
05:56:56
Courtney>> If I was single? Yeah. >> Um, only if he's tun tuned with Anixia. >> What's that? >> It's a Wow joke. >> Oh, okay. >> That's a good one. >> Wait, what does that mean?
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Courtney>> What's that? >> What does that mean? >> It's part of World of Warcraft. >> He's a World of Warcraft. >> He's a World of Warcraft streamer and it >> it's a RPG. So, um, MM O RPG. Uh, and
05:57:22
Brian Atlas>> All right. Um, and then one more guy we have to show you. Um, I'm trying to get this guy set up. He's had some issues. He's had legal issues with one of his exes and he's he's been through the ringer this next guy I'm about to show you. Really been through the ringer. I'm
05:57:35
Brian Atlastrying to set him up with maybe one of the nice gals on the panel tonight. So, I'm going to show you and you tell me if you're interested and I'll get you guys set up. Pull it up.
05:57:45
Brian Atlas>> All right. Scroll up. Scroll up. >> All right. So, um this His name's Felix. [laughter] His name's Felix.
05:57:54
Brian AtlasGreat guy. nice guy. You know, he does abuse his ADHD medication a little bit, [laughter] but he's a great guy. Very nice, very friendly. Um, and uh, hey,
05:58:06
Brian Atlashe's not he's like a handsome guy, you know? He's not badl looking, you know. Anyways, uh, so the question is, would you date him? >> He's better than the last one, but still no. >> Still still no. Why do you make the face when you That's kind of rude.
05:58:18
Shona>> I just like his style. He looks like very much like a gamer boy who just like stays in day all day. >> A game. Yeah. Yeah, true. >> Yeah, it's not really my type, but he's like good looking.
05:58:28
Amouranth>> I might have at one point before I saw what he likes to wear uh his personal like clothing style. He likes to wear clothes look like somebody like either [ __ ] on him or like a bird shed on him. So, that made me really question
05:58:41
Brian Atlashis sense of judgment. So, for that reason, no. >> What? >> Yeah. >> Whoa. Wow. >> Yeah. ex uh uh Felix wears clothes that were shhat on by birds >> but like not actual birds like
05:58:54
Amouranth>> like your runway. >> Yeah. It's like at least he actually has birds that [ __ ] on him, right? They're not It's not like choosing to get fake clothes that look like it happened. >> It's weird. >> Uh what about you? Would you date him? >> Yeah, if I liked his personality.
05:59:06
Brian Atlas>> Okay. Would you would you date him? >> No. He looks like like a t-u Justin Bieber. >> Teeu Justin Bieber. Would you date him? >> Brutal. No. >> Would you date him? >> Yeah. Yeah, but am I going to have to deal with the legal stuff with that? [laughter] >> No, no, no.
05:59:19
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> What are you dating him? >> I'm demisexual, so there's a chance. >> Okay. All right. I'll [laughter] set I'll I'll try to get you guys set up after the show. And >> what the [ __ ] is a demisexual?
05:59:32
Courtney>> What is that? >> There's sapioexual, demisexual. >> Yeah, but Okay, let me explain. I just wanted to do that as contrast. So demisexual is emotional driven attraction and then sapioexual is intellectual
05:59:44
Willowdriven attraction. It's very simple. >> I'm a sapioexual. So I don't I typically don't care what people like look like, but I can't vibe with guys who like have >> you're all homosexual, >> no opinions, can't talk, aren't
05:59:56
Willowintelligent, like and I'm more likely to be like this sexual and that sex. Come on. >> Like is have witty banter. Like that gets me going more than like somebody having a lot of muscle or like >> Yeah, I know. The really hot guys that
06:00:09
Willowdoesn't do it for me. It's a really witty banner for men. The ugly [ __ ] that do it. >> I don't like men who feel like they can over like take over me or like I wouldn't be able to like cuz I've been in a lot of abusive relationships. So
06:00:22
Willowthat I don't have a desire to be with a man who's like super big because if things did get bad one day, I don't ever want to experience what I do. >> What if he was extremely intelligent? >> I don't know. Again, I still like I actually am talking to someone like very
06:00:34
Willowbriefly who is like like much bigger, but he is so smart. But like the thought of like a big part of why I never even want to like hang out with this person was [laughter] like did like I said no try to like attack me or something, you know, >> cuz I'm a jerk.
06:00:46
Brian Atlas>> So it sounds like unconventional answers typically stem from trauma of some sort or low self-esteem or something. >> Uh here we're going to blast through these uh going around the table. What would you want the minimum yearly income
06:00:57
Andrew Wilsonto be for your future husband? Um, assuming that I make at least as much, six figures. >> Okay. With about >> wait, >> I I answered. >> Wait, wait, hang on a second. I'm sorry.
06:01:08
ShonaBefore we get to you, uh, >> assuming you make the same amount, let's assume you don't. >> Then I would lower the threshold, but I would also have to evaluate how much I'm making.