1v1 DEBATE: Andrew Wilson vs. Marxist Anti-Trump Feminist | Whatever Debates #11
Date: 2025-03-16
Duration: 7h 34m
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_05Miss Kenzie(guest)
Key Moments
00:02:09
IntroBrian introduces debate: Andrew Wilson vs Miss Kenzie on feminism
00:35:40
Key MomentAndrew's slavery hypothetical: if all men decided to enslave women, women could not resist
02:07:00
ControversyAndrew admits waking wife with sex. Kenzie classifies as rape.
03:17:00
Key MomentAndrew cites USSR: fully legal abortion led to 3 abortions per 1 live birth
04:58:20
Key MomentAndrew presses Kenzie on body count. She repeatedly refuses. 'If it doesn't matter why won't you tell?'
06:31:40
Key MomentKenzie's TikTok: Whatever deliberately books unprepared women against prepared conservatives to humiliate them
Topics Discussed
00:07:00
Feminism vs Marxism
Andrew: first-wave feminism fed women into capitalism, contradicting Marxism. Kenzie distinguishes liberal from Marxist feminism.
00:35:00
Force Doctrine
Andrew: men's biological physical superiority = monopoly on force. Slavery hypothetical.
02:07:00
Sexual Consent
Andrew admits waking wife with sex. Kenzie classifies as rape under FRIES model. Both agree holding down = rape.
03:05:00
Abortion
Kenzie: no restrictions all 9 months. Andrew cites USSR 3:1 abortion ratio. Semantic bait-and-switch debate.
04:05:00
Purity Culture and Virginity
Andrew: virgins report highest marital satisfaction. Kenzie refuses to disclose body count.
06:26:40
Whatever Podcast Misogyny TikTok
Brian plays Kenzie's TikTok calling Whatever a misogynistic abuse space. Brian refutes: 15% OF guests, women reach out.
07:17:30
Closing Statements
Andrew: proprietary definitions. Kenzie: precise terminology, restorative justice.
Transcript
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06:37:29
Miss Kenziemisogynistic towards of girls no not at all so I specific demographic when you're having guests on how would that pertain to
06:37:38
Miss Kenziemisogyny when a woman who doesn't do can be victim of misogyny why does it right because obviously o and women who engage in sex work under patriarchy seen as
06:37:50
Miss Kenzieundesirable so having that specific clientele is meant to shame and humiliate them for for being on o or so on and so yeah so I'll answer the question of all the guests we've ever
06:38:00
Brian Atlashad the representation of women who do o it's about 15% so some shows there's more some shows there's there's none uh and we still do have of girls who come on the show uh I think it's actually
06:38:13
Brian Atlasdecreased a little bit there was perhaps a period where the representation of of models on the show models uh was higher but now it's maybe a bit lower but they still come on the show and then we have
06:38:26
Brian Atlasnormal girls who come on the show we have women in college we have women who are professionals women in the hair excuse me Healthcare field so we have all kinds of different women who come on the show um I don't think you've really
06:38:38
Brian Atlasanswered my question though what did I not answer so you were asking me well what are the kinds of women you bring on the show I've just answer for specific demographics and I do think how is the show
06:38:50
Miss Kenziemisogynistic can you give me one example well that is one example simply by virtue of bringing only fan some only fans girl on the show I'm meant to essentially shame and and demonize sex
06:39:01
Miss Kenziework and saying that you know you're a degenerate you're a low class because this is how you engage I categorically reject your uh
06:39:13
Brian Atlaspresumption there that that's the reason we bring them on the show to humiliate or degrade them okay so your premises flawed what Brian doesn't he doesn't
06:39:25
Andrew Wilsonactually think that they're necessarily degenerates or things like that because they do sex work that's me I mean I think it was definitely implied by his statement which statement you degenerate you do o yeah but I mean
06:39:38
Miss Kenziethey were tra they were trading insults right like you don't always mean what you say when you're training insults to say just kidding is kind of my point well I mean here's the other I mean
06:39:49
Brian Atlasthere's this is why context matters uh the girl was uh I suppose there were other factors that led me to make
06:39:59
Brian Atlasperhaps assumptions about that specific girl uh she appeared to have possibly been on some kind of drugs possibly
06:40:08
Brian Atlasblasted in you know tattoos um had a weirdo I I don't know if this pertains to her being a degenerate had a weirdo boyfriend who was like acting really weird probably
06:40:20
Brian Atlasdoesn't pertain to degeneracy really but uh yeah well that that was the specific context that you gave yeah so she had just gotten done trolling the show she
06:40:31
Brian Atlascame on in bad faith she wasn't paying attention she was being rude to me I was extremely patient with her I'd reached a point in the show where I was like hey I'm not dealing with this girl anymore I
06:40:42
Brian Atlasgave her plenty of chances she intentionally came on in bad faith and to troll the show I was in the process of kicking her off as I kicked her off in a bit of an abrasive way although I think it was warranted uh she says
06:40:55
Brian Atlassomething along the lines of good luck with your dead ass podcast bro and then that's when I say dead ass podcast who who the hell the implication who the hell are you you do only fans you
06:41:06
Brian Atlas[ __ ] degenerate so I think in the situation where somebody has been insulting towards you you might have you might just be like look just take it on the chin you just you know don't sink
06:41:16
Brian Atlasdown to their level sometimes you're going to feel compelled to insult somebody back when they've just insulted you so I think context does matter perhaps you think it doesn't I mean sure
06:41:27
Miss Kenzieif you would have been like you know said something different like great you know [ __ ] off [ __ ] have a great day [ __ ] off idiot yeah you know something
06:41:35
Miss Kenzielike that to well the degenerate was attached to the only fans um label and so it's not her behavior towards you it's not her regression it's just um
06:41:47
Miss Kenzieit's just the fact that she's an only fans model that makes her a degenerate I mean isn't the basis of like insulting somebody like you might the isn't insulting somebody the idea there is and
06:41:58
Brian AtlasI try to avoid it as much as I can the idea is to put in a dig that hurts them like that's the point of an insult it's to say something that will be hurtful to them and so I could like couldn't you
06:42:10
Brian Atlasmake say the same thing about like if you were to make a commentary about somebody's physical appearance like often times that's how people will insult somebody is by saying something about their physical appearance okay
06:42:22
Miss Kenzieokay I I'm sorry is is there a question yeah so it's like you're saying I'm making some sort of like moral I I don't understand your objection the fact that she's an only fan model is what makes
06:42:33
Brian Atlasher a degenerate not her behavior towards you yeah it's a component not her trolling not anything else just this only one component yeah I mean I could have used all kinds of other words I could have called her a [ __ ] I could have called her a prostitute I could
06:42:46
Miss Kenziehave used all other kinds of words I think degenerate was actually a pretty it's not the word that necessarily that you're using it's in what the label is applied if you would have been like oh
06:42:58
Miss Kenzieyou you're on drugs you you [ __ ] degenerate then I would have said like oh he's calling her a degenerate cuz she's a drug user but you said you're a degenerate you're an only fans model so
06:43:07
Miss Kenziein What scenario can one call somebody a degenerate like what if there's evidence of them being a degenerate I mean I don't think being a sex worker innately
06:43:18
Miss Kenziemakes you a deer what makes somebody a degenerate from her view nothing I mean I guess I don't know do you want me to look up what degenerate means without
06:43:27
Brian Atlasmorals without morals if the insult is originating from me would why were you hold on hold on if the insult originates from me wouldn't it be my world view
06:43:39
Brian Atlasthat would instruct the insult that I opt to use in the situation like I I get that you don't think that like letting 10 dudes
06:43:49
Brian Atlasbang you in a day is degenerate but like maybe I do so like wouldn't it just be my preference to say yeah she's a [ __ ] Degen are you agreeing that sex workers are
06:44:00
Brian Atlasdegenerates um I suppose it would depends you'd have to you'd have to give me like what does she do because sex work is this nebulous term that is like
06:44:10
Brian Atlasit can mean any anywhere from a woman who is a hold on hold on let me finish uh a woman who's a prostitute who sleeps with 10 different men a day to a woman
06:44:20
Brian Atlaswho takes lingerie photos so are all sex workers degenerates I don't know maybe maybe not Andrew might say yes they're all of them
06:44:31
Brian Atlasare degenerates I'm sure he would I might say like a woman who takes like linger like who's who's like in like traditional calendar lingerie model is she a degenerate what does her being an
06:44:44
Brian Atlasonly fans model have to do with you calling her a degenerate uh well I I didn't have a great opportunity to to review her only fans work but like I looked at her Twitter beforehand and
06:44:55
Brian AtlasI've luckily it hasn't been burned into the back of my retina but there were some degenerate things for example on her Twitter she was sticking certain objects that I don't think belong in
06:45:06
Andrew Wilsoncertain holes it honestly doesn't matter anyway it doesn't because the point is the point is just to say that he can think that she's a degenerate and probably does think she's a degenerate probably thinks sex work is degenerate
06:45:19
Miss Kenziebut that doesn't prove that he brought her on the show to shame her for being a degenerate that's the problem that's the whole problem with I mean I I would think that um if you do have this common
06:45:28
Miss Kenziedemographic um within your panel and when you know there is conflict that arises that that's what you highlight in terms of oh you're just this you degenerate that that can be a reasonable
06:45:40
Miss Kenziestrategy even if it's only 15% I mean didn't you have this debate with RC that this is his issue with the whatever podcast is that it features uh sex work models yeah and his
06:45:52
Miss Kenziechannel does too so the thing right so then if we agree that you do feature sex workor models and and only and only fans that that is a common demographic that comes on your panel
06:46:03
Miss Kenzieum it doesn't mean it's coming on for the purpose of you of you doing anything to them because or to start a conflict where you call them a degenerate well I mean in that aspect it did and that was
06:46:15
Andrew Wilsonuh the context behind the insult you know again it wasn't any other behavior that doesn't show only fans that doesn't show the purpose of them coming on though is for that to happen that's the
06:46:26
Andrew Wilsonproblem you have like you can say Brian you think they're a degenerate and I'm susing out that your motivation is that you only bring these degenerates on so that you can call them degenerates okay that's fair but it does even show hate
06:46:38
Andrew Wilsonand hostility towards them yeah but that that doesn't actually prove the intent that he was bringing these women on is so that he can somehow do something bad to I mean I I don't have like a computer with all Clips where I can give you
06:46:51
Andrew Wilsonexamples even if you did though like let's say you had let's say 50 or [ __ ] let's say 75% you got in a fight with 75% of them and called 75% of them when you got pissed at them de
06:47:03
Miss Kenziethat still wouldn't prove that you brought them on specifically to call them degenerates like that doesn't follow obviously this is one example but if I had clips of other examples of showing hate or hostility especially
06:47:16
Brian Atlaswithin these contexts um isn't hostility just like they don't like it or it doesn't make them feel good and they would feel hostility like if a woman feels
06:47:26
Miss Kenziehostility can be aggression it can be change in tone it can be yelling it can be um talking over people it can be uh
06:47:36
Brian Atlassteamrolling I mean it can be a multitude of things yeah so um really what's interesting to me though if we've had I think I don't recall the exact
06:47:47
Brian Atlasnumbers uh but I think I said it was like 15% of all the panelists have been have done the of I think that puts the number at like 150 to maybe 200 of girls
06:47:58
Brian Atlashave been on the show uh I think I've maybe call I that might be the only girl of the perhaps 200 o models who we've had on the show who I've called
06:48:09
Brian Atlasdegenerate so you're saying this one inst off the street uh no what do you mean the majority wait wait hold on the majority
06:48:19
Brian Atlasof our guests are pre-booked and they have typically weeks or months to prepare to come on the show we don't make we don't just try to get people out
06:48:31
Brian Atlaslike the people reach out to us predominantly of all the guests that have that we have on reach out to us to be on the show sure so when when you are getting people on the show um who are
06:48:44
Miss Kenziethe male counterparts what do you mean uh like Chase um Justin Waller who how long what they Justin Waller was like on the show a year and a half ago or something I
06:48:55
Andrew Wilsonmean how old is that video it's mostly just three people he wasn't even in that video it would be no I mean how as my video a year and a half so it can be around that time as well
06:49:07
Miss Kenzieyeah so you're looking at so came on the show two times right so why are there women that are off the street just kind of random women whether they're College whether they're o whether they're Instagram models but
06:49:19
Miss Kenziewhen it comes to the mail pan panelist they're they're hand selected you know they just aren't random col how does that pertain at all because when you're
06:49:30
Miss Kenziehaving these subject matter experts within certain aspects obviously like Andrew he's had a lot of experience when it comes Andrew is not a subject matter expert on dating like not at all he's he
06:49:42
Brian Atlasdoesn't study do have subject matter expertise right which I mean he's married but I don't know if that makes dating I don't if that makes he's been in fact I've been out of the dating market for like half my life you you've been married for what 20 or like I've
06:49:56
Miss Kenziebeen with Rachel for Andrew wasn't even dating when they were dating again like I I don't know what want me to do when I can't reference like specific clips that I don't have well you can't well so okay I
06:50:07
Andrew Wilsonmean I explain things and you're like that was a year and a half ago thiser is not a sub what is he a subject matter expert of um I mean like capitalism and economic
06:50:18
SPEAKER_03success he's not a subject expert yeah that's not a subject matter expert so he's just a random guy are you a subject matter expert and in Marxism no how come I wouldn't say that how come you're not
06:50:31
Miss Kenziewhat makes you not that um I definitely think that's what my B my platform is based on so I would say more of a subject matter expert than like the average person sure well then
06:50:41
Andrew Wilsonthat's all Waller would be right so why did Waller come on because he wanted to probably engage with these various individuals about their various worldviews the same reason that most people so he he's a random guy just like
06:50:54
Andrew Wilsonthe women are random why do you take random callers I mean all my callers are random well I don't understand if all your callers are random is it because you just want to humiliate people people weren't subject matter experts like yourself oh uh no oh no you have
06:51:07
Brian Atlasdifferent motivations than that that's really weird I mean it it really like you're not random are you no this is actually hildon Andrew we've talked about this before this is actually a fantastic argument this is a criticism
06:51:18
SPEAKER_02hold on well this is a this is a criticism he he kicks people off too you kick people off he tells people to be quiet you mute him like well this isn't this is a criticism like and I think
06:51:30
Brian Atlasmaybe Dean and Parker have forwarded like oh why do you you bring on these these huh you said de and Parker forwarded this no no no they like put the argument forward yeah they they
06:51:42
Brian Atlasforward this oh man the what why do you want to bring on these girls who are just ill prepared and d d da you host if I'm correct you host Tik Tock lives
06:51:53
Brian Atlascorrect yeah so that's like for and secondly thirdly I don't even know where we're at firstly that's just random people scrolling on their phone I
06:52:03
Brian Atlassuspect the IQ of people on Tik to Tik Tok no offense is probably low lower than the IQ of our average guest like look Tik tok's like so basically what you have you have a guy who's never seen
06:52:14
Brian Atlasyour content before okay and you put in these prompts and Andrew called you out uh on this during the show you forward these positions I don't know if if it's
06:52:25
Brian Atlasum bait mod and Bailey but you you're like oh abortion should be legal for the entire term and then you're going to like capture these people are like wo so she's okay with people who want to get
06:52:36
Brian Atlasan abortion like 5 minutes before gives it completely proi you totally like change your position but so these hold on hold on hold on so these people that you and you do how often do you do the
06:52:48
Brian AtlasTik Tok debates multiple times a week it depends okay so you do Tik Tok debates these people are going in 100% blind they're just on their phone scrolling they happen to happen on your Tik Tok
06:52:59
Brian Atlaslive through the algorithm they're like oh let me do a Quest and it's some like completely unprepared person who probably like never debates or he just has like vague uh you know political
06:53:11
Brian Atlasbeliefs and maybe voted for Trump and he's like some grandpa or some [ __ ] and you've like have you have all your information you have everything and
06:53:22
Brian Atlasinstantly they get thrown in all the girls who come on our show have weeks or months to prepare they often ask to be on the show they they have opportunity
06:53:32
Brian Atlasto to uh practice their debate skills they have opportunity to review for weeks or months past episodes so how are you saying that I'm somehow you know
06:53:43
Brian Atlasdoing this unfair thing with my platform where they have to come in studio and they have an abundance of time to prepare whereas you're just like you're
06:53:54
Andrew Wilsonjust picking people who are popping up in the algorithm sure they have way less of the people you engage with have far L time to prepare and less debate experience not subject matter experts and you have proprietary definitions for
06:54:08
Andrew Wilsoneverything you put up there like abortion in fact almost every definition you have for everything we've discussed today which why we spent more time on semantics and defining things anything else is because every definition you
06:54:18
Andrew Wilsongave is proprietary none of them are like like your definition of feminism proprietary misogyny proprietary well just everything is a proprietary definition well my my definition of
06:54:30
Andrew Wilsonfeminism is from Bell hooks my definition of misogyny is from K man so obviously but these are not these are not the definitions which you'd find in the Commons like misogyny would just be
06:54:42
Miss Kenzieuh right the dictionary is descriptive not prescriptive so obviously I'm not making descriptive definitions proprietary they're proprietary well yeah like how how do you define fascism I'm sure that um a lot of political
06:54:55
Miss KenzieScholars have different definitions of fascism because they're talking about how they're trying to convey the subject but when you're talking about abortion people think termination of the so if I
06:55:05
Miss Kenziecan finish um when it comes to the abortion topic I've run a different variety of backgrounds which I'm sure you've seen legal without restriction abortion legal and free all 9 months now
06:55:18
Miss KenzieI won pro-abortion because there were aspects of the prompt that I was sick of explaining so um one of the aspects of Tik Tok is is just finding good prompts
06:55:29
Andrew Wilsonto uh communicate what you're what your position is effectively yeah but the second I don't use the abortion free and legal 9 months any but you say abortion is the liberation of a pregnancy when
06:55:41
Andrew Wilsonyou say that I never said that deliberate termination sorry 9 month yeah yeah sorry deliberate termination of a pregnancy yes so the thing is is like
06:55:53
Andrew Wilsonthat is super proprietary when people are thinking you like me to use the medical definition from Harvard when people are thinking of abortion right they're thinking that you're saying it's okay to terminate the baby up to 9 months that's what they're thinking sure
06:56:06
Miss KenzieI I don't discount that which is why when they come up and you know we discuss that I'm not like oh you [ __ ] idiot like haahahaha oh right but I'm just saying I tell them this is how well
06:56:16
Miss Kenzieand I've told you that I have change my prompt because there are certain heavy lifting things that I don't want to do like there's conversations I want to have and I don't want to spend my time
06:56:27
Miss Kenzieum correcting certain assumptions so I I have changed my background I don't use that anymore okay um here we'll come right back to it I just want let's wrap up hold on hold on we're almost done I just want to just want to say I'm ready
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SPEAKER_00support patriarchy and I think feminism is extremely harmful to women is that misogynistic is that misogynistic yes that's again why I said the definition
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SPEAKER_00contributes nothing I blame men for allowing them to think it is okay by being weak and giving them money Prometheus donated $30 Brian and
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SPEAKER_00Andrew do not represent the words misogyny as they invite women you're using it as an ad homm thank you Prometheus appreciate it we have two more coming in appreciate it
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Brian AtlasPur jockies super chill uh I I mean the donations for I don't even think I don't know if we saw grid one or cheeks tonight but uh they're definitely regular patrons um one
07:00:12
Brian Atlasquestion for you do you think like defra do you think defrauding people is degenerate um how are we defining degenerate without
07:00:22
Brian Atlasmorals is it immoral I mean to defraud people in in what like just fraud in any context fraud fraud
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Brian Atlasis that wrong um well I mean fraud is wrong sure okay like the majority of the majority of only fans creators are employing something called typers and Chatters so
07:00:44
Brian Atlasthey're representing to uh their predominantly male Audience by the way this is me typing this is me chatting with you this is a representation there's this term in uh in marketing or
07:00:55
Brian Atlasin the legal World false advertising these women are false advertising they're saying uh essentially purchase this product and you get to talk to me spend this money you get to talk to me in the reality they're employing either
07:01:08
Brian Atlasa management company or they have like a typer typically in like a third world country uh you know it's typically a man who's going to be typing on behalf of the woman and sexting with these men I
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Brian Atlasthink if you're representing and you're saying hey I'm uh I'm the one who you're going to be talking to they are making a representation a false representation that's fraud Point Blank
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Brian Atlasperiod they're def Fring I think it's uh civil fraud and criminal fraud they are defrauding the and if they're not doing it then it wouldn't technically be fraud but the majority of these women have a management company they have typers they
07:01:43
Brian Atlashave Chatters they have somebody else typically a man sending messages and they're saying it's me but it's actually not that's fraud that's
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Miss Kenziedegenerate I mean uh sh that that's definitely an aspect of capitalism that I would agree with WR do you think it's wrong oh okay you do think it's wrong yeah I don't think there's a lot of
07:02:07
Miss Kenzieethical consumption under capitalism okay but you just you just granted that so when we fraud would be degenerate so I think I was justified then to call her degenerate well I I again just because
07:02:18
Miss Kenzieshe's like is she engaging in this specific practice of saying like pay me and I'll chat with you I again like I I think you're really being dis dishonest how would it be demonizing about you
07:02:31
Miss Kenziedemiz work you're trying to massage it to make it seem that you were demonizing other aspects rather than actually demonizing sex work this actually my goto my my go to hold on hold hold on you're not going to dictate what my own
07:02:44
Brian Atlasposition is kind of steamrolling me I'm not steamrolling you let me respond to you no I've been quite I've been moderate I've been quite the whole show you guys have been talking a lot at least allow me to respond to that
07:02:55
Brian Atlasso this idea that this is like some sort of I'm I'm now forwarding this position about these women defrauding men like that I'm trying to massage it yeah you're trying to massage your St hold on
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Brian Atlasand what you were referencing actually I mean Andrew can can vouch for me on this when I have criticisms of only fans it's never like oh you post naked photos
07:03:18
Brian Atlasyou're doing porn porn bad I typically defer to this precise argument of you haven't given a position I defer to this position of you are you are defrauding
07:03:30
Brian Atlasthese men by having typers Chatters and doing false rep misrepresentation is that not the case Andrew whenever I'm not like oh they're they're they're a moralc because they're posting nude photos no it's like
07:03:43
Brian Atlasactually I actually have not heard that no that well I haven't heard Brian demonized women because they do sex work because they post like nude photos it's it's like my attack on it tends to be
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Miss Kenziethat's usually me that's Andrew that's me I me I don't know how you can say that's not the the statement that you said you're a degenerate you do o You're a degenerate but if the majority of O
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Miss Kenziecreators are engaged in defrauding Their audience and you granted that fraud if you would have said is degenerate you are you would have to agree with are defrauding your off audience you degenerate then I would probably give
07:04:17
Brian Atlasyou more leeway why do I need to add that qualifier because saying you're trying to massage the context to make it seem to fit a different if within my own worldview and within my experience wouldn't I be the perfect person to know
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Brian Atlasthis I have women admitting to me on the show multiple times yes I have a Ty yes I have a chatter they tell me after the show they have management companies I have men who run have a proprietary
07:04:40
Andrew Wilsondefinition of degeneracy that's it that's like done she has proprietary definition for all kinds of [ __ ] you can have proprietary definition like when you say proprietary do you just mean
07:04:51
Andrew Wilsonprescriptive no proprietary meaning it's a definition unto me it means so you're not using what's the difference between proprietary and prescriptive
07:05:01
Andrew Wilsonuh well it depend like a prescriptive claim a prescriptive definition oh a prescriptive definition yeah so it would be a a prescriptive definition but it also be here I'll give you an exact
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Andrew Wilsondefinition so that of the difference between proprietary and prescriptive yeah okay yeah so that we have the delineation we just make sure we get it right really quick while he's doing that can you pull up the video again because
07:05:25
Miss KenzieI just wanted to check the pull the video tab yeah 5 10 minutes pull it up real quick you said that five 10 minutes ago I was wrong pull it up really quick pull up the video T we we have video
07:05:37
Brian Atlasplease the video 7 hours you're in the window tab video tab please can you skip forward to the like abuse part I just wanted to make sure I'm quoting it correctly skip forward in
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Brian Atlasany you're not yeah so BL can you skip forward proprietary in this case like scroll though can you just
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Miss Kenziescroll no can you scroll forward like like in the video yeah yeah I'm looking for the here I need to hide this only have hide they have women outside of that context is if they're conservative
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Miss Kenzielike Candace Owens or lla Rose and obviously they have this structure because their arguments will go unchallenged abuse challeng part I don't know where that is though you see there's a very unique setup when it
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Miss Kenziecomes to men centered around anti-feminist or heavily there are many yeah I think you should go to the beginning cuz I think abuse women
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Miss Kenzieand I also said that in these spaces as well on Tik Tok and that there is similar setups when it comes to this a lot of men will hold anti-feminist
07:06:42
Brian Atlashighly conservative red pill spaces to enact misogyny against the women that you you hold uh anti-il spaces to enact mandry upon the men that come into your
07:06:53
Brian Atlastiil space am I holding you host Tik Tock lives and you specifically seek out to debate men who disagree with your politics and world not men women as well
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Brian Atlasit just depends who requests okay fine mostes on and we've debated we've debated come on cuz obviously men would hold the okay and mostly women come on here so we're is it I mean I don't see
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Brian Atlasyou having like men come on me and Andrew did a 2v2 debate against one guy who uh when was that it was it was more recent than the Justin Waller appearance
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Brian Atlasbut it was what 6 months ago something like that how is this video huh how old is my video like two yearses or a year and a half no long is it how old is it I think it's it doesn't matter don't worry
07:07:38
Brian Atlasabout a year and a well it does because obviously oh um obviously that 2v2 was after I made this video right but now you're you you're not like changing your
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Miss Kenzieposition I'm now referencing that into words that have came out of your mouth I'm saying this is my at this time based on the content that I had viewed again if you want me to be specific I can give
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Brian Atlasspecific Clips but I'm not prepared to I don't know what you want you don't even need to give the clip just tell me something that I have said that is misogynistic or abusive I think saying
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Brian Atlasyou're a degenerate because you're an only fan is misogynistic an only fans model CU you are misogynistic yes you are shaming a sex so if I would if I said that to a male only fans model
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Miss Kenziewould it be misandrist or would it still be misis obviously her gender is going to be at the center of the misogyny because a sex worker is out is
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Miss Kenzieum is acting outside of the patriarchal prescription of their gender which is to be virginal to be virtuous not to sleep with men so on I think male sex workers
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Brian Atlascould be degenerate too so would that be misogynistic or misandrist it would or neither it would be neither it wouldn't be Mand that's not a social prescription of masculinity or of men under
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Andrew Wilsonpatriarchy what if it's under like a world viw I don't hold worldw so I can't tell you that okay so it's just you have to understand that everything everything that's come out of this view has been
07:09:10
Miss Kenziethe definition only applies to the next proprietary definition proprietary meaning it's you own the definition again I haven't heard the difference between proprietary and prescriptive you ever really do want to
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Miss Kenziego I don't want to like make it seem like I'm trying to run but this hasn't gone on seven hours yeah I but proprietary in this case like I'm sure you want me
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Brian Atlasto be here willingly and enthusiastically and I'm not about if we if I give you a hard out in five minutes can you stay another 5
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Brian Atlasminutes like it's 10:0 or it's 11:05 how about 11:11 lucky number that's six minute five minutes I'm
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Miss Kenziedone is like Rage Quit done again like I've been saying I want to be done for for a while now going to rect keeps pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing but there's going to be an
07:10:02
Miss Kenzieexpect just to let you know our dating talk panels go longer than this so there is an expectation what expectation did you give me when we discussed it over DMS for this specific discussion I'd have to review the email I don't recall
07:10:14
Brian Atlasexactly it was three hours yeah it was going to be shorter but long to be fair look you brought up the some you guys started talking about necrophilia you started talking about start talking about some crazy [ __ ] again maybe this
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Miss Kenzieis the failure of moderation for not moving topics or having a different dis uh different structure when it comes to the debate but I I think I've been a very willing
07:10:33
Brian Atlasand considerate and uh participant panelist and now that I'm done after 7 hours I'm not forcing you to be here I'm asking if you st telling me Oh you're going to rage quck when I wanted to go
07:10:46
Brian Atlas20 minutes okay fine I was wrong for saying you're rage quitting I'm asking if you can stay for an additional 4 minutes that's it and it's a hard out 1111 it's 11:06 I'm keeping track here 4
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Andrew Wilsonminutes and then uh okay so when I when I say proprietary I just mean personal it's your personal definition of a thing um it's not I told you where I got them from and were their definition is
07:11:10
Miss Kenzieproprietary um so again it doesn't tell me what the difference between a prescriptive definition and a what a prescriptive definition so a prescriptive definition is how the word ought to be used the difference between
07:11:22
Miss Kenziea descriptive and a prescriptive is it describes how people often use it in language and then so it's the same as prescriptive or descriptive in philosophy opy prescriptive being what
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Andrew Wilsonyou ought do descriptive being just the descriptor of how a thing is so okay so if it's a prescriptive definition fortive definition yeah in the Commons there's going to be a different way in which abortion is used than the
07:11:45
Miss Kenzieproprietary defition and I think there is validity in having different prescriptive definitions to to explain a concept uh while the majority of abortions do end in the death of the fetus I think that a lot of people have
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Andrew Wilsoncentered it then that that is the goal of the ab that's not my criticism my criticism is just that everything that you utilize is is a definition which feeds a definition which feeds a
07:12:08
Andrew Wilsondefinition which um which renders these Concepts uh true just definitionally true but it doesn't render them actually true like your definition of
07:12:19
Andrew Wilsonmisogyny your your definition of misogyny is essentially only a way to demonize men so you say uh well my
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Miss Kenziedefinition of misogyny is anything which uphold the patriarchy right basically no okay what is your definition of misogyny the hate or hostility towards women and girls for stepping outside of their
07:12:40
Andrew Wilsonpatriarchal prescribed gender role okay so yeah any so you add the word patriarchy in there so any type of hatred for you for stepping outside of whatever patriarchal gend G you have
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Miss Kenziegender is a patriarchal prescription how we have conceptualized masculinity and femin I'm just showing you how you use the things to make them defin my definition yeah okay well then they're using it to make it
07:13:04
Andrew Wilsondefinitionally true and you're then using it also to make it definitionally true even if it's not true like what definitionally true so that so the idea of patriarchy is not anywhere in any
07:13:15
Andrew Wilsoncommon version of misogyny I can find anywhere okay so when people are talking about misogyny they don't mean oh you're not conforming to whatever this nebulous patriarchy wants you to do they're
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Andrew Wilsonthinking that you hate women that's what they think sure so so you use this to say see you're actually um because you believe in things like patriarchy you're
07:13:38
Andrew Wilsondefinitionally a misogynist no you're [ __ ] not definitionally a misogynist you're only definitionally a misogynist under your proprietary definitions that's my problem with marxists in general every time I debate with not a
07:13:49
Andrew WilsonMarxist definition every time I debate with marxists they use proprietary definitions that feed proprietary definitions to make them definitionally right I don't know why you think this is a Marxist definition I've told you it's
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Miss Kenziefrom feminist theorist Kate man and is Kate man a Marxist I don't think so okay well I don't know her say she created one of the top 10 feminist thinkers okay well this is and there's there's
07:14:11
Miss Kenziearguments to why this definition would be would work better functionally why I think when we categorize the Hat uh misogyny is the hatred of women how can
07:14:21
Miss Kenzieyou determine outside of a man saying I hate women that he hates women because he can just essentially say like oh well I love my mother oh well I love my sister sister so of course I don't hate women so I'm not being a misogynist yeah
07:14:34
Andrew Wilsonwhat's wrong with that but when we're because then cuz then you can't classify anybody as a misogynist the definition isan no it's still not meaningless it absolutely is no you can say I you can say that a person hates all women
07:14:47
Miss Kenziethey're a misogynist or you can make another deter all women is absolutely ridiculous that that's why you want it to be every single woman like what man would ever meet that standard is it so then no one's a misogynist is it well
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Andrew Wilsonfirst of all there are men who meet the standard of hating all women who men the men who hate all women well where are they men who have described themselves as I hate women I hate women does not mean I hate all women okay but when they
07:15:12
Andrew Wilsonsay I hate all women do you take them at their word I I have not met one man who says I hate all it seems to me like you just want to you could actually describe it in different ways too you can say um
07:15:23
Andrew Wilsonyou hate most women or you hate a significant portion of the population does that now not make you a misogynist yeah you can do can do that right you can do it in any different way but what
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Andrew Wilsonyou're trying to do is stop for you're only trying to expand the definition of of what makes a person misogynist I'm trying to make it functional because it does address different uh Concepts when
07:15:46
Miss Kenziewe're talking about misogyny and patriarchy obviously under patriarchy it's going to have the prescription of supporting male domination and Supremacy which is going to have uh women as subservient or as secondary and so
07:15:58
Miss Kenziethere's going to be specific con structions around that and when women don't adhere to it they receive hate and hostility so it is acting as a policing of the patriarchy how can you prove that
07:16:11
Andrew Wilsonthey're receiving hate and hostility just because they're women like if I hated a guy for those same exact reasons right stepping outside of whatever their patriarchal role is am I a misogynist
07:16:22
Miss Kenziethen well no because again it would be towards girls and women oh right so what would you call if you do it to a guy nothing right he's not misogynous um I mean technically that would be the definition of mandry I mean
07:16:36
Miss Kenzieif we're saying yeah that they're opposite that men are not adhering to their patriarchal prescription just real quick so that we can wrap this up I know you want to go and all that okay and it is
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Andrew Wilson1212 I'll finish I'll finish it like right now it's 1212 so hard out yeah well I didn't make the agreement I just want to finish the last point last last I me I gave her the heart out if you want
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Brian Atlasyou're welcome to take the heart to take one last thing I mean I would like to finish and close yeah close should we do can we do close is that yes I'm
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Brian AtlasCL we'll do this um we can do it tomorrow so whatever your points are can we uh you want to save it for tomorrow and do you want to close so I think if I
07:17:19
Andrew Wilsonrecall who opened you opened first so Andrew you get to close yeah first and then you make can make it yeah yeah I'll close first so yeah it's all it's always the same thing it's always just expand the definition
07:17:31
Andrew Wilsonof the thing she says it makes it more functional it's like no it doesn't actually make it more functional you can have tons of different definitions for misogyny that are functional for instance I just don't like X thing about
07:17:43
Andrew Wilsonher because she's a woman that would be a perfect example of what you could call misogyny because it's a woman I don't like this trait that's easily provable and demonstratable it's because she's a woman that could be considered misogyny
07:17:56
Andrew Wilsonit's totally functional there's like a zillion different ways to do this but what happens with feminis they constantly take words in the Commons and then what they do is they redefine them in order to expand what their meaning is and they and then they
07:18:08
Andrew Wilsonmake the next definition in order to expand on that meaning as well to make the first one make sense etc etc so you spend all your time with them unraveling the semantics in the language before you can even get to a damn argument which
07:18:20
Andrew Wilsonthey never have because the second you move it outside of their definitions there is no argument to be had it's just it's all definitional based it's just based on my proprietary
07:18:31
Andrew Wilsondefinition of this word this word uses the loaded context of the word like misogyny which is very loaded it's a very loaded context but people don't
07:18:41
Andrew Wilsonthink of this uh word as meaning well based on my proprietary definition it actually means Behavior which doesn't moves outside of the Accord of what the patriarchy would think your behavior
07:18:52
Andrew Wilsonordinarily should be nobody thinks of it that way they think of it as you hate women or you hate people based on the fact that or you yeah you just hate them based on the fact they're women that's it that's what they think misogyny is so
07:19:04
Andrew Wilsonwhat happens is you take this term which is loaded in the public domain and uh with the hatred towards women and then you expand it to include all these other things you can use the hatred around the
07:19:16
Andrew Wilsonroom and expand that to more men who don't fall under the idea of hatred of women and it's a typical bait and switch and it's very frustrating because uh
07:19:27
Andrew Wilsonthey do this with other things too they do this with fascist Nazi at this point by the way you're basically just a Nazi if you're not like I mean if you're not like just on
07:19:38
Andrew Wilsonyour knees worshiping trans lgbtq women you're just a Nazi like that's that's the way they view it because they've expanded the definition of what that is so this is just like how it always works and it's super frustrating and you can
07:19:50
Andrew Wilsonbarely get to any points because you can't address the point outside of their definition so they just make everything definitionally true' be like if I said
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Andrew Wilsonwell I think m Y is when you talk back to me it's like well they'd be like no it's not like yeah I think it's just like when you talk back to me that's
07:20:10
Andrew Wilsonmissandry would that be true no right it wouldn't be true but you I mean you could you would it would be definitionally true if she then talked back to me and I called her a mandress right that would be definitionally true
07:20:23
Andrew Wilsonand this is how all these loaded terms work so it's super frustrating all the things that we went over very quickly in the beginning she never really gave a good account for first second third wave feminism feeding women into the capitalist meat
07:20:34
Andrew Wilsonlocker meat grinder except to say well I guess I don't actually agree with those waves of feminism even though I'm a feminist I'm just on some weird bizarre Fringe into
07:20:45
Andrew Wilsonfeminism um we got into the feminist movement um and oppression cruel and unusual punishment there wasn't a lot of arguments there
07:20:55
Andrew Wilsoneither um let's see what else did we get into here oh yeah we got into debt and it doesn't seem like the idea that women now being
07:21:06
Andrew Wilsonin debt in any way shape or form makes them more liberated than when they depended on their husband she just kind of says well I just think that they are there's no real good reason that she
07:21:16
Andrew Wilsonever gave for it um and then what else did we cover a few things few other things I was trying to take notes as I went oh yeah jail she doesn't believe in jail she just believes in Rehabilitation
07:21:28
Andrew Wilsonbut then we dive into what Rehabilitation is it's basically jail they can't leave right and if you do leave they're going to come get you and take you back it's like it's basically
07:21:37
Andrew Wilsonjail so it's just all these crazy ass circles um and then we get we get to the idea of abortion the idea of um of
07:21:48
Andrew Wilsonmurder things like this and um so that was a bait and switch it's not really all nine months it's again a very
07:21:56
Andrew Wilsonproprietary definition of abortion designed to bait and switch and then um we we got into consent you know she thinks that two people are drunk they're
07:22:06
Andrew Wilsongraping each other if a if a husband wakes wakes his wife up with sex he's a Grapist if she wakes him up with sex he she's a Grapist it's like that shit's [ __ ] crazy but at least there we got
07:22:18
Andrew Wilsona definition of what it was that we wanted so that we could point out the insanity so I'm done with that I'm that's my closing I appreciate it Kenzie yeah so I think when we're talking about
07:22:29
Miss Kenziespecific Concepts that we want to convey it's disingenuous and actually a logical fallacy to just say that oh we should Define these words as the definition uh the dictionary prescribes because that's
07:22:41
Miss Kenziehow like the commons uses it if we're having an intellectual discussion and I say something like well peanut butter Supremacy and you're like well what is peanut butter and then we agree on the definition then essentially I've just
07:22:52
Miss Kenzieeffectively communicated my concept to you we just use words as symbols and so using abortion in the aspect like I've
07:23:01
Miss Kenzietalked about before um I think a lot of people have the notion that abortion the purpose of it is to terminate the life of the fetus when that's not true it is to end pregnancy and that is an
07:23:14
Miss Kenzieimportant distinction that I want to make because there are cases um where the fetus has already passed and the body has failed to uh complete the miscarriage and so an abortion is
07:23:25
Miss Kenzienecessary um where there are Health complications and deliberately turning the the uh terminating the pregnancy is necessary and so when when and I I just
07:23:37
Miss Kenziecan't believe where that we have a debate for several hours and even take the time to outline the how we're conveying certain Concepts and then
07:23:47
Miss Kenziebecause the concept is concise it's disingenuous because it doesn't agree with the dictionary that just seems so contradictory to me um I think in in
07:23:57
Miss Kenzieaspects of of sexual consent yes we absolutely want to have a conscious partner that's just absolutely wild to me that um he's more interested in his wife sleeping rather than just waking
07:24:09
Miss Kenzieher up and wanting to engage where you know consent is reversible um and there's Mutual experience and pleasure I mean he even said his he's only worried about his own
07:24:19
Miss Kenzieexperience which is very red flag for me um we did talk about the different waves of feminism which I even said I didn't like categorizing feminism within that method because then it leaves out
07:24:31
Miss Kenziespecific sex of feminism when it comes to uh abolitionists who were feminists which were obviously going to be a lot of women of color and I don't want to whitewash uh when it comes to certain
07:24:43
Miss Kenzieideas of feminism that just because Bourgeois white women wanted to participate in voting in political power with men that somehow this encompasses
07:24:53
Miss Kenziethe entire first wave I think that's marginalization of of racial groups and I I already did dis agree with him that I don't like liberal feminism that we should be looking to for women to find
07:25:04
Miss Kenziethe means of Liberation under capitalism I think if we give women more Choice under oppression that's better than less choice and so that's what that would boil down to but obviously I would like to get rid of this the oppress
07:25:17
Miss Kenzieoppressive system in general we didn't really talk anything about second third or fourth wave feminism I do want to highlight too that um I think he gave some information that was incorrect people do live long healthy lives with
07:25:29
Miss Kenziejust one kidney so sometimes in these discussions it's hard to always fact check which I do want to say to your point I definitely give people on um my live the space to look up information or
07:25:41
Miss Kenzieto give me what they're reading uh because I do want the intellectual challenge I do want the discourse um I do want the knowledge um where obviously we're
07:25:52
Miss Kenzielimited within this kind of perview um to really ask for sources which I know can be very boring and take time but but that's kind of delineation I think
07:26:01
Miss Kenziethat's important to make um I mean the abolition of police and prisons is not a new take I'm not the first person to have that and again I think just to say
07:26:12
Miss Kenziethat jail is just sequestering from society again is is an inaccurate way to represent what prison and what policing
07:26:22
Miss Kenzieactually is uh e even prison especially within America is um just a new strategy to continue to enact slavery and
07:26:33
Miss Kenzieobviously since uh people of color are disproportionately affected by the police it it's just a new method to do so and then prisoners don't have uh they're not humanized they don't have rights and I do think even when people
07:26:46
Miss Kenziehave committed harm in society that they don't lose their humanity and dignity to where we can just treat them like garbage and so that's the delineation between prisons and then obviously having someone who's committed depending
07:26:58
Miss Kenziewhat crime it is what strategies we can take for them so that we actually prevent the harm in the future rather than just punish and release them into a system where where crime and and harm is
07:27:10
Miss Kenzieprevalent um I think policing's different but we didn't really touch on policing so I won't touch that um yeah and oh sorry is that more no I I think that that sums it up okay
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Brian Atlasappreciate you me on Rachel Wilson says I've given Andrew lifelong IR retractable consent Lady it's called marriage I think it's weird that you think it's weird I don't know if you want to respond to this but we can leave
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Brian Atlasit there no I don't okay we'll leave it there um I know you have to go I'm going to let some of the other chats come in so me and Andrew will continue the stream I can't end it immediately just
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Brian Atlasbecause we have them coming through but you want your the heart out so thank you for coming Ken appreciate it Kenzie it was a very uh interesting debate I think honestly one I think it we've had we've
07:27:56
Brian Atlasdone a lot of these debates I think Andrew maybe this is probably one of the better ones in terms of an opponent sure okay I don't know trying to do a little compliment there at the end but Kenzie
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Brian Atlasthank you so much for coming do appreciate it we'll see you uh tomorrow and uh please don't report us to the police that we held you hostage there at the end uh thank you Kenzie oh is he
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Brian Atlassee it yeah yeah it was pretty brutal I it was like right there live and didn't see it I didn't even see it it's like if you had sex with the world's hottest woman
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Andrew Wilsonbut you you don't remember it it's what's the point it's like bragging rights but it's like you don't even anyway well not only that you have to go back you you will be able to see it but only the same way the whole audience did
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Brian Atlaswhich robs you of the experience of I I was there when that happened damn I'm uh you know what Andre pretty happy about that yeah I'm going to be ordering pineapple pizza next four days