Feminist RAGE QUITS Before Show?! Catholic Pro-Choice Bi Leftist?! Grandma BACK! | Dating Talk #250

Date: 2025-07-07

Duration: 9h 19m

Guests

Brian Atlas

MMaddie (Porn)>

JJosie Marcelino >

EEmily (Coach DT250)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Emily (Coach DT250)(guest)

SPEAKER_05Lucy (Data)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Marcelina(guest)

SPEAKER_07Holly (62)(guest)

SPEAKER_08Josie Marcelino(guest)

SPEAKER_09Mandy (Iran)(guest)

SPEAKER_10Maddie (Porn)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Eleanor(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll 8 guests introduced

Key MomentMaddie: pays $170K alimony to first husband from 1-year marriage

Key MomentJosie: kidnapped on date at 20, stole truck, drove 100mph to escape

Key MomentMarcelina: ex put loaded gun to her head, doused car in acid, killed a girl, now in prison

ControversyMandy: explosive rant blaming feminism and weak men for societal decline

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Including Mandy (Iran/Vancouver stripper with 3 properties) and Holly (62, Jackass Forever).

Maddie Alimony

Pays $170K total alimony to first husband from 1-year marriage.

Sex Work Discussion

Mandy: 'this shit sucks.' Advocates against sex work.

Male Loneliness Epidemic

Emily raises topic. Panel discusses causes.

Josie Kidnapping Story

Kidnapped on date at 20. Stole attacker's truck. Drove 100mph.

Marcelina Gun to Head

Ex put loaded gun to her head. Doused car in acid. Killed a girl. Now in prison.

Racism Definitions

Lucy argues only those with institutional power can be racist.

Transcript

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Lucy (Data)women in leadership, first off, are post-menopausal. And also, if you look at most men in leadership, they tend to be more erratic and more testosterone driven and more um just aggressive in

Mandy (Iran)their tactics. Women's hormonal, when we get our periods, we literally turn into different people for like a week. And the [ __ ] going to happen to a country in that one week when you're [ __ ] all crazy?

Josie MarcelinoWhen women are on their period, their hormonal makeup is closest to men's. Your estrogen drops, your progesterone drops. But it's better to be on an even emotions the whole time when you're

Brian Atlasrunning a [ __ ] country than your emotions going like this every most leaders are postmenopausal. Okay, hold on. Save it for for later. Let me read these. Chair three, you are full of [ __ ] In Canada, there are tons of

Brian Atlassupport programs for single mothers, but nothing for single fathers. Even the courts take their side more. It is the same for the US as well. I can't speak.

Brian AtlasThere's way more social safety net uh stuff for women than than for men. But uh we have Cherry here. So you're using men for financial reasons. Yes, because they let me.

Mandy (Iran)Is this directed towards you? Yeah, they let me and they shouldn't let me. Scoot the mic to the edge of the table. I think men are so weak that they let us do it and they shouldn't let us. Why is it that every Only Fans girls is making millions of dollars when men can't even

Mandy (Iran)make more than five, sixk a months? Why? Why is that? They're letting us do it. They're letting us become better than them when we're not. But they're helping us to through that. It's literally the top 01%.

Mandy (Iran)Those poor men. It is poor man. You know, it's sad. Well, you said that they're not making as much money on only fans and I'm like, "No, not on Only Fans. [ __ ] Only Fans. All this stupid." Oh, I'm just I'm

Mandy (Iran)literally doing this because I didn't speak English seven years ago. I I I'm [ __ ] I still probably am, but Okay. just a little bit. Um, anyways, I did this this and also

Mandy (Iran)the funny thing is like when I started doing this, this was my last choice and these girls are literally have families. They have they speak English and this is their first choice because they're so empowered. Yeah. Yeah. Just wait for a sec though.

Brian AtlasLet me read the rest of these. All right, Cherry. So, what if roles were reversed in society? Your thoughts?

Brian AtlasWhat do you mean? What was the question? It's Cherry. Can you clarify? Yeah, I don't know exactly your thoughts. I be a bit more precise if you can. If you want to send another one in, you can send it like just send in uh 10 cherry.

Brian AtlasAm I muted? Should I should I put my thought? Oh, no. Just wait one second. Uh women make horrible leaders because they enjoy being dominated and led from based or not. They seek approval. Nobody wants to follow them. They have to dress up like

Brian Atlasmen when they get elected. Pants suits and caring cuts. Well, if that's the case, why do men make such great soldiers? What? Also, that's just not true for the women

Brian Atlasleaders. Okay. Uh, Cherry, I'm listening to you. Chair one, he says that he's listening. Congrats. But you don't want men to listen to you.

Mandy (Iran)I love men. That's the thing. Like, I want him to listen because I'm like, I don't know. I want men to go back to being primal. Primal. That's what I want. Okay.

Mandy (Iran)For them to take control. Look at the country. Like, and Canada was the best country of [ __ ] of Canada and America were the best countries. I'm in [ __ ] Canada. The shit's terrible country. Why is that? Because women are in power and they're emotional and they let [ __ ]

Brian Atlasanyone come in. They don't understand that there is reasons. Is your prime minister not a man? It is, but it's a gay man. One sec. One sec. Chair one, you surprised me. And that rarely happens. You are based and have my respect. The

Mandy (Iran)sisterhood started attacking you because you spoke the truth and they got triggered because they didn't like it. Yeah. Because no one no one wants to say they're lord. No one wants to accept that they're [ __ ] up. I am. I know I'm [ __ ] up.

Brian AtlasIt's not normal for humans to understand their lord. I'm going to try this the best I can. Profilla y'all if already [ __ ] a bunch of methand women with luth coochie

Brian Atlasenergy. Sorry, it's I was trying to read it as best I could. Uh, all right. This guy says he'll pay your bills. Okay, we'll do He will pay my bills.

Brian AtlasWe'll get through. Uh, yeah, I guess cherry creams. Um, okay. I want to blast through as much of the notes as possible. So, okay, we did.

Brian AtlasOkay. Wait, there's some more [ __ ] from Lucy. Damn, bro. Wait, who here Who here lives in LA? Do Are you in LA? Where? Where? I'm in orange.

Lucy (Data)Orange. Okay. California. All right. Uh let's see here. Going to Lucia. You want to talk about age gap relationships? Oh gosh, that was also a part of Far's question that I forgot to answer. Um

Lucy (Data)when she was saying, is it okay for a 50-year-old to date a 19-year-old? Legally, yeah, it's a grown adult. Um but I think it's a a moral murky gray area because a 50-year-old and a 19-year-old typically don't have much in

Lucy (Data)common. And there's Hey, Holly, get off your phone. Oh, come on. It's past. Hey, Holly, get off your phone. Yeah. And then also give this girl a mochaccino or something. Yes. And then there's um also a power

Lucy (Data)dynamic imbalance as well. So, I I think while it may be legally okay, I wouldn't personally indulge. Okay, cool. Thanks. Thank you for sharing your perspective.

Brian AtlasThank you for letting me share. Uh, I think it's honestly I mean I think most 18, 19, 20 year old women probably don't want to date 50-year-olds. So, um, I wanted to. What's that?

Brian AtlasI wanted to. Yeah. Uh, but if there was a circumstance where she wanted to and the guy wanted to, I don't it's consensual. I don't really see the problem with it.

Brian AtlasYeah. I mean, you're referencing like power dynamics, but I mean, I think you can make a counterargument that younger women have way more power in the dating marketplace than 50-year-old men. Like, they have

Lucy (Data)way more leverage in socially, yes, I think younger women have a lot of social currency, but an older established man might have a lot of economic power and financial

Brian Atlassecurity, and that could be extremely attractive to a young romantic prospect. Okay. So, but is she just with him because of that or are there other reasons that she might be interested?

Lucy (Data)I mean, I can't speak on behalf of these women, but I I could see someone being very young and inexperienced and being lured and drawn in by security and stability. What if she reached out to him though? Like, for example, it's you would agree

Brian Atlasthat it's logically possible that currently there's like 19, 20, 21 year old women who even Brad Pitt, well, he's dating somebody, but assume he's single. view Brad Brad Pitt now and are like,

Brian Atlas"Whoa, he's really attractive even though even though he's an older guy, sure." And they were pursuing him, would you object to him like accepting accepting their pursuit? Well, I mean, I think as long as

Brian Atlaseveryone's of legal age, of course, legally it's totally fine. 198 21. Um, but I just think when you get into more of like the ethics of it, um, yeah, make a moral argument for why it's wrong for uh, Brad Pitt to date a

Lucy (Data)20-year-old. Okay. Well, I didn't say it was, but you were about to get into the ethics of it. So, make a Sure. Okay. ethical or moral argument for why it's wrong. Um, well, I just think someone like Brad Pitt with all of his social and

Lucy (Data)financial power would have a lot of leverage over a 19-year-old in a way that makes the relationship inherently imbalanced, which is not wrong because certain relationships are not totally

Lucy (Data)equal and that's okay if people want that dynamic for themselves. But so what is morally or ethically questionable about it? Well, it's just going into a dynamic

Lucy (Data)knowing that you have so much more knowledge and leverage and power over the other person and that um in more ways than one you hold a lot of power over them.

Emily (Coach DT250)I think too I mean you can take the biological view which is your prefrontal cortex which forms your identity isn't even developed until you're like be quiet guys. Yeah. um isn't developed until you're 26. So I even me personally I know that

Emily (Coach DT250)I'm not going to get married until after that time period because I haven't fully formed my identity. Who you are at like from 19 to like 22 is so different than who you are by 26 and it's so different

Brian Atlasfrom who you are by 30. So like I again there are exceptions to the rule. I have a question though. Would you agree that there are like 18, 19, and 20 year olds with higher IQ or EQ than say

Brian Atlas30 or 40 year olds? I would say that that's possible. Yes. But I it's logically possible. I I think it's possible. Um it's I don't think it's just

Brian Atlaspossible. I think it's the case that there are plenty of 18, 19, and 20 year olds who have higher IQ than people in their 30s or 40s. Like I don't think IQ fluctuates that much. Sure. But what I would say to that is probably if an 18 or 19year-old has a

Emily (Coach DT250)higher IQ than a 30-year-old, then he pro they wouldn't probably be attracted to the person IQ. An older person is really really attractive, but they have a low IQ. Really talk. Again, like I don't I think

Emily (Coach DT250)that if somebody has a super high IQ, they're not going to be attracted to somebody with lower IQ. In fact, there's studies that back this up that typically people with the same IQ that could very well be the case. I think probably people of a certain intelligence would want to date somebody

Brian Atlasperhaps approaching their level of intelligence or perhaps surpassing it. But the question is then is somebody who is 18, 19, 20 who has a higher IQ than

Brian Atlassomebody who's 30 is now there a power dynamic going on where this person is arguably I mean you talk about the prefrontal cortex but their IQ is higher arguably they're just more intelligent

Brian Atlasthan this person regardless of the uh prefrontal cortex development. So would there then be a power imbalance in the other way? This younger person has some

Emily (Coach DT250)leverage over the older person in the relationship due to the higher IQ or EQ. Uh what immediately comes up for me is that again IQ is very different from emotional maturity and EQ. So I think that just because the 18 or 19year-old

Emily (Coach DT250)might have a higher IQ, that doesn't necessarily mean that they're emotionally mature. Just curious, um does anybody here think that they're more intelligent than me? Like I'm not going to be offended. Like

Lucy (Data)I'm just curious. Like do you think you're more intelligent than me? No, I think you have extreme business savvy and you clearly know how to run a very successful business. Are you more intelligent than me? You're a data scientist. I dropped out of college. Are you more intelligent than I just I have more higher education, but

Brian Atlasthat doesn't say anything about intelligence. Yeah. But okay, let's just talk about general intelligence then. Do you think you're more intelligent than me? I don't think so. I think let's say you were though. So, if we were to date, would you be uh would this like be a predatory power dynamic?

Josie MarcelinoOh god. Let's just assume I'm really stupid and you're really smart and we're dating. But we're kind of what? You're 31? I'm 31, right? How stupid is really stupid though? Cuz like if you had like developmental

Brian Atlasintellectual disability. Well, I mean, I'm kind of autistic. So, maybe she's like, "Oh, okay, great. So, we have like symmetry there." But if your IQ is like low, there's no

Josie Marcelinolike you're high functioning autistic. I'm low functioning autistic. You're not low function. What? I know. I'm just hypothetical. Low functioning autistic is nonverbal. Okay. Yeah, that would be a problem.

Josie MarcelinoOkay. Love on the spectrum. I don't know. What the [ __ ] This is a Love on the Spectrum. Have you ever seen episodes of Love on the Spectrum where you go, would it be those aren't matched up properly? Hold on. But would it be like a imbal

Josie Marcelinolike a power dynamic imbalance if somebody with a really high IQ did somebody with a low IQ? If you're low enough IQ to be manipulated Yeah. to where you're able to be manipulated very easily, then yeah, I would say it's a problem.

Brian AtlasOkay. But there are genius level IQ people at 18, 19, 20. So within this metric, they would be being predatory towards a 30 or 40 year old. I think the re the the point with the whole age gap thing and why it's

Josie Marcelinolike frowned upon to date somebody who's 18, 19, 20 is because more often than not, they don't have life experience to kind of guide them through their decision-m whereas if you're 50, you know how to manipulate somebody because

Brian Atlasyou've kind of lived through that. Wait, this might be a really stupid argument, but I'm just going to throw it out there. Okay, so do would you guys agree that women have higher emotional intelligence than men? I would say they generally mature

Josie Marcelinoemotionally faster. But do women have more emotional intelligence? I think to a point and then they match up. Yeah. I think it's like women accelerate faster and then they hit their cap.

Brian AtlasWait, am I using Wait, what's that term that they're always talking about? Is it emotional intelligence? Empathy. Oh, okay. So, wait. If it's the case that women just across the board almost always have more emotional intelligence

Brian Atlasthan men, this is very predatory of you women to be dating these like low emotional intelligence men. You guys are really [ __ ] predatory. Like, you guys

Brian Atlasjust [ __ ] run circles around these men with your vast giant brains and your massive amounts of emotional intelligence. And these poor men, they can't even articulate a feeling or an

Brian Atlasemotion or a thought. You [ __ ] predatory monsters. How dare How dare you date these men? So good at this. So good. I'm so attracted to you right now. I think you're so intelligent.

Lucy (Data)Wait, what the [ __ ] Shut up. Oh, you really know what you're doing and it's working. What am I doing? Oh, no. Like, you can just create these like thought experiments out of thin air and it just it does exactly what you

Brian Atlaswant them to do and I'm really into it. Okay. Well, there's some tissues over in the back if you need them. But, um, so anyways, uh, what was I saying? Yeah. No, it's just the case. Look, I hear

Brian Atlasfrom women, "Oh, these guys, you know, it'd be great if they worked on their emotional intelligence, you know, da da da." You [ __ ] disgusting predators. You guys are [ __ ] apex predators. Okay, apex predator.

Mandy (Iran)Give me a bear suit. To get here, we went from We want them to get better and we want them to love us and respect us and be loyal to us when all we do is bash them. Look, I'm just saying I think, you know,

Brian Atlasthere there is something to be said about the power imbalance because, you know, it's just women. You guys have way more emotional intelligence than us us men. Just our prefrontal cortex isn't developed enough to

Brian AtlasOh, no. Yours is developed. A whole another planet. No, our prefrontal cortex as men, we're just we're very primal creatures, as she says, you know, and we're just not uh we're not attuned to the emotional

Brian Atlasintelligence thing. And I think you women, you take advantage of us. You use us for sex. You use us. You use us. And I just find it disgusting. You women, you only think about one thing. You

Brian Atlasknow, you just want to use, you know, emotional intelligence. Emotional intelligence. It's just really despicable. You guys, you guys are abusers. Well, okay, hold on. Yeah. Okay, fine. You're abusers. Predatory.

Mandy (Iran)Very predatory. And uh yeah, emotional intelligence will not save you from what's coming. all the wars. Emotional intelligence is not going to [ __ ] save you from a war. It's cool to have it, but it's like really do we like why we keep saying

Mandy (Iran)that to men? You can't win a war without emotional intelligence. The ability to find out why people are doing what they're doing and what's happening right now is emotional intelligence. Emotional women

Mandy (Iran)are so emotional that like this is like the world, their country is everything. Yeah. Who's Canada at war with with theirelves? It's a It became a

Mandy (Iran)third world country. It's literally You come into Canada, you see. Oh, I don't want to say to race. You don't even have cars. I don't want to say to gas or electricing it. I moved from [ __ ] Iran to Canada to see [ __ ] She wants to go back. She's going back.

Brian AtlasNo, I don't want to go back. I want to go somewhere. I want I used to want to go to Europe, but now hold on. He's talking about you. Chair one, it would be great for men to take back control and bring back the nuclear family, but unfortunately feminism has spread too far.

Mandy (Iran)I think there's a way back for many. I think we can go back from feminism. We tried it long enough. We know this [ __ ] just making us weaker. It's ruining our [ __ ] country. It's everything. Everything's getting ruined. It's time to take the new generation.

Mandy (Iran)Delete your own fans. The the generation It's a It's not even this gen. This generation is cooked. We going to We need We need I'm having a good time. Interracial relationships. You wanted to talk about interracial What's up? Did I You date black guys only exclusively?

Lucy (Data)No, not exclusively. Mexicans or I like every race. Um but you said you wanted to talk about interracial relationship. Oh, I don't remember that. But I just I think it's it's beautiful that we can date interraially now because there's so much to learn and enjoy from other

Lucy (Data)cultures. Cuz back in the day, we weren't allowed to and now we can. And it's great to not be limited. That's why I only date black women. I love that for you. Thank you. Do you? Yeah. Do you identify as black?

Brian AtlasI can for you. No. No, I don't. What the [ __ ] Huh? What is Filipino black? Just kidding. I'm kidding. Okay, never mind. No, it's No, black of um Asia.

Brian AtlasJust kidding. Got some jokes here at the end of the show. We got a comedian here at the table. Okay, we got Josie. Getting back to your notes. I'm going to blast through these really quick. Okay. Uh what what did we disagree on?

Brian AtlasUm uh we were talking about like the submissive dominant. We talked about that for quite a bit. Uh you think you think it's fine if a woman outears a man? Yeah. You think it's fine if men stay home and

Josie Marcelinoread rear rear children? Yes. get them pregnant. Uh, is that the type of dynam dynamic you'd be fine with? I don't want kids. Oh, okay. Sure. But I would be fine if I out earned a

Josie Marcelinoman. Not by a crazy amount, just cuz I don't I don't earn enough to support two people. Um, but if Yeah. So, equal for where I live would be fine.

Brian AtlasI think it's women who are dissatisfied in that setup though. I don't think it's men who are wholesale like butt hurt about that. I think women just there's been articles and uh like I

Brian Atlasthink the New York Times or something had some article about women are not finding economically attractive men. Bingo. Yeah. Why is that? Maybe it's because we made like because men are far more unemployed than

Mandy (Iran)women. Yeah. Why is that? Because we made every household two income and then the elites got a point. The elites know that the more in divided we are, the more they can tax us, the more they can make us work, the more we're going to enslave us. Double the

Mandy (Iran)taxes. Exactly. Double. And then look at this [ __ ] It's keep getting worse. Like it keeps getting worse. I have a single income family. Me. So, and we don't want to [ __ ] accept that. And we we let it. We let it

Maddie (Porn)happen. And I have no problem. I have no problem with it personally. Yeah. You don't You're literally having a mess. No, I won't have a problem with it ever and definitely. No, I really don't think so. Yeah. True. There I don't dispute that there's women who are fine with the

Mandy (Iran)dynamic, but I don't. Is she really fine though? If if you think most women are cool. If you think she is an only fans girl, right? I know you you make money and you think you're proud of it. I used to be proud of being a stripper, too. I used to think this shit's [ __ ] I was not proud of being a stripper.

Mandy (Iran)Or only fans. It doesn't matter any of this, but if you think about it, just imagine a female. You're a little proud. Imagine No, I did not like being a Oh, a stripper. Being a stripper. If imagine a female in her natural habitat. You should have brought Wait, never mind. Sorry. Sorry. I was going to say

Mandy (Iran)something inappropriate. I just think I just think none of these Only Fans girls if they could think about it, if they didn't have to insert a dilto in their [ __ ] vagina for for for money. I know. I don't know why I said dilto.

Mandy (Iran)Anyways, if if all if they're when while doing this act of doing these things to yourself while doing it, when you're making these content, think be like, is this really I'm a human with

Mandy (Iran)consciousness, with power and energy. I'm wasting my human existence in a waste. Don't go away. How is it a waste? How's it a waste? How is it [ __ ] waste, bro? It's a waste. You think it's

Mandy (Iran)Would you rather just cook and clean? It's cuz I do that, too. It's a lot more beautiful to be in a community with your husband, with your kids, with your family, and just be a village, be a group, take care of each other, and live with me.

EleanorBut I do all of that. So, I got a question. I just got a question. Can I ask the question, though? Yeah. Okay. Ask question. You're you're saying a lot of things that you do want and you're saying a lot of things that you don't want.

EleanorWe we ruined men. Let me finish. Let me finish, please. I'm begging you to let me finish. Okay. Okay. So, what is stopping you from getting the life that you want?

Mandy (Iran)We ruined men. I'm looking for the men that are like you're blaming men when you have control of your life. I don't want this life that I have

Eleanorcontrol of. Okay. So, then delete your only become a Christian or whatever about men and how like oh men are like this this and this. First of all, I don't think that should really have

Mandy (Iran)anything to do with you. If you want like the life that you want, just go for it. Yeah. It's also weird that you're you have total control of your life. I'm not asking for forgiveness and I'm not asking for like someone to be like, "Oh, you're a victim. You can change

Mandy (Iran)it." I'm saying this is what it is. This is what it is. This is what I've done. But we need to take a step back because every when I did this [ __ ] this when I started like eight years ago it was something that you weren't like

Maddie (Porn)empowered by. It was something that you do as your last like chance and now we have girls that are empowered by it. I never said I was empowered by your last choice. You're just putting words in my mouth. I never said I was empowered by it. I thought you like it. No, I do like it but that doesn't mean

Josie MarcelinoI'm empowered by it. Am I not allowed to decide? I didn't want to do it. This is my choice. Your choice and it is my choice to do it. And I'm sorry that you had to do something that you don't want to do and that's not fair. And I really do hope that you get help and you can make

Mandy (Iran)peace with yourself. I can't stop now. I can't stop now. I honestly can't stop now. Properties. But it's just like, yeah, I could stop it. And honestly, if there is a better There is I have no like talent. Like what am I what am I doing?

Mandy (Iran)Girl, get some confidence. Take the money that you've earned from fans and go get a college degree. It's not easy when you get used to making 20 30 $40,000 a month. It's not easy. Okay, then why are you complaining? Why are you complaining?

EleanorBecause it shouldn't have been in like this in the first place. Okay, if you really feel that way though, like hear me out. If you really feel that way, if you really feel that like your life as a woman with like a

Eleanorman should be a certain way, like I need you to know that you have full control of your life to change that. It may not happen in a snap of the fingeract. It's not going to. I only realized how much I hate it in the past like a year and a

Holly (62)half. Okay, then it takes a while. It's gradually you all right then that's good for you properties I'm getting so go ahead and do do something to get the life that you want to do simplify just what I'm doing it that's what I'm doing

Eleanorphone get that guy it takes a while it's not that easy it takes a while and I understand that I really do but like while you're changing your life to get getting to where you want while I'm changing my life to get there

Josie MarcelinoI'm going to tell people the [ __ ] truth and say how I do think it's funny that you're sitting here and you're like these ladies are bigoted and they do hate men. And you're the ones sitting here going, "Men are gay. All men suck. Men are gay.

Mandy (Iran)We are making them gay. We We are taking their natural instincts. We're making him at home [ __ ] stay home wives. This [ __ ] out for a second. Do you think I'm taking away your natural instinct?

Mandy (Iran)What do you mean? You don't think women are taking you guys you males natural instincts by telling you like by telling you you I don't need you as a provider. I don't need you as a protector." That's their

Emily (Coach DT250)in nature. That's their sole purpose. Hold on. Hold on. That narative, my love, that narative is the one that you were texting for her. That narrative is disempowering men. I love

Holly (62)Wait, guys. We have to do a segment called Everybody takes off all their makeup. Oh my god. Is Are we leaving by 4 in the morning? We're going to be out. We're We're going to wrap this home soon. We're going to wrap soon. A lot of We're taking our makeup off.

Maddie (Porn)What? Can you take your shirt off? The [ __ ] You got to shave your beard. Shave your beard. I will I will I will I don't hear at all. Like I don't want to do it. Can you shave your hand?

Maddie (Porn)Actually, it's literally like You just have to take your contacts off. I can't see. I need It's like actually like 2:00 in the morning. I'm so down to take my makeup off. If you have, you know, a little contact lens case and some contact solution,

Brian Atlassomething where I could put my eyelashes and a used beer cup or uh champagne. But that's totally going to get my eyes in her face. We'll definitely look champagne is sterile makeup, but I need to go do it a mirror.

Brian AtlasOkay, get all right. Good. All right, we have some chats coming through. We got uh Cherry Creams. He says he'll pair pay Chair One's bill. She heard it back there. She heard it.

Brian AtlasShe just got up to do something. Everybody take your makeup off. You know, this is the time of the show to just relax. We're about We're almost done. Uh Paste George.

Brian AtlasPut it over here. Put the Put the thing back. Put the thing back. All right. Uh, okay. Pacy George, Chair

Brian AtlasOne is right. This generation is cooked and feminism has not only demonized men, but motherhood as well. Jen Alpha is already showing signs of early adoption of feministic values, including Missandry. Also, Cherry said he'll pay

Brian Atlasyour bills for chair one. Yeah, if you pay my bills, I'll get get rid of my jaw. Faux show. Actually, I don't know. Are you going to Did you take the makeup off? Take care of my bows for Oh, hold it up when you're done. Once you're done, hold up the Are you going

Brian Atlasto take your makeup? Completely. So, I have some waterproof ugly. Do something for my lashes. Are you trying to tell us we're ugly? Talking to little women that I Hey, hold it up, Molly.

Mandy (Iran)We're supposed to work your makeup. This is the division I'm talking about. This is the division. What division? Why Why do you want us to like be like, "Oh, you're ugly. We're supposed to work together, not a game of each other." Wait, scoot scoot your mic. Scoot your mic back.

Josie MarcelinoThis is the division I'm talking about. Scoot your mic is cool to take your mic back. It is. I have to be on a flight at 6. Oh, you go straight to the airport, girl. No excuses. Play like a champion. Okay,

Brian Atlasso let me blast through the rest of the stuff. Uh, let's see here. The makeup tease. Here. Hold it up again. There it is.

Brian AtlasHold it up, everybody. All right. There's the damage. There's the damage. All right. Rock and roll. Okay. Uh, so I think I did most of Josie your notes. Uh,

Brian Atlasare we ugly now? You said you have no problem with people who transition from one gender to the other, but we already talked like you're kind of against the sports stuff and children and blah blah blah. Uh, yeah. I'm adults doing whatever they

Brian Atlaswant with their body. Mandy. Okay, we did Mandy's stuff. Marceline, we did that. We did. Uh, hold on. Did we finish all of Lucy's stuff? Lucy Goosey.

Lucy (Data)Oh, I hope so. Uh, I guess Brian, you put me on the spot. My heart starts racing. Also, cuz you're so good-looking. That, too.

Brian AtlasIs this going to be followed by like an oooo or something? Sounded like sounded like you were like, "Do you have an Asian fetish?" Why would that be an Asian fetish? Is he hotter than a bear? Feel like that's just a weeb. Well, obviously he's like the hottest

Mandy (Iran)man here. Him or a bear? Is him or a bear? I'm the only man here. What the [ __ ] Would you pick him or a bear? To bone. No. To be in an alley. To be in an alley alone. Would you pick him or a bear?

Mandy (Iran)Obviously, I'd pick him. I know him and he's attractive. Yeah, but if it was a fatty, you wouldn't. I thought it I don't know. I thought it be

Brian Atlasuh Let's see here. We have uh Okay, we got to do a little bit of homeg girl. Oh my god, why do I have so many notes? Uno momento. While we're while I'm

Brian Atlaspulling up the notes, guys, I want to show you guys a video I took of my ex-girlfriend. Uh, and so because this is an I have this expectation for all my future

Brian Atlasrelationships in terms of how what I expect. So, uh, Mary, why don't you go ahead and play that? So, I took Does she know you took this? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, she knew. She told me to take it. Boom. Do you

Brian Atlas[ __ ] huge bow? Huge bow. She looks like So, this is after a long podcast episode. But I get home to my pad and uh you know, she has my dinner

Brian Atlasready as you're about to uh see here. Very, very kind. Very kind. And uh yeah, she is actually your girlfriend. And she gets me a beer. Ex-girlfriend. I

Brian AtlasI broke up with her because uh she had fake boobs, but I had to dump her. Yeah. Why are they She also tried to murder me in my sleep, but that's another conversation. Um Yeah.

Brian AtlasPlay it one more time. Just the bow part really quick. Watch this. Check this [ __ ] Boom. Huge bow. You see the [ __ ] degree? I would do that for a man. You see how deep that men enough? I would do that. That's I would So going around the table, would you bow

Mandy (Iran)for uh a guy if it was primal enough? It wasn't manly enough. Yeah. Yeah. I don't care. Gas queen. Okay. No, you wouldn't do that. No.

Josie MarcelinoWhat if it What is it? Bow for a man. I'm a Sicilian Irish white chick. No, I'm not bowing for someone. Do you Do you appreciate dark humor?

Josie MarcelinoVery much so. What if it brought your boyfriend back? Ooh, that's cold, right? All right. Yeah, that's the one. That's the one. You got me. All right. All right. I know. All right. All right.

Lucy (Data)Resurrection. Fine. I would. Yeah. Okay. You Yeah. Seriously though, he wanted the serious bow. A serious bow. Serious bow. Like that one. Okay. The head to the floor. Sure. Love it. Would you hit a bow? It feels too racially charged. It feels

Lucy (Data)a little weird. I have black women doing that all the time. That's hot. Um I I don't know if I only date black women, so you But your ex was Anyways, she was black. She identified as black.

Brian AtlasI don't think I would do that. She was albino. Um she was cute. The the black albinos end up looking Asian for some reason. Uh all right. What about you? I would. Yeah. You'd hit a bow. Oh, okay. There you go.

Brian AtlasHolly. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. Paulie is my favorite character. Why did half of us take our makeup off and then Oh, yeah. I've definitely done it before like as a joke and stuff. Oh, as a It's got to be serious. You know what? That would be your

Brian Atlassensei. I also think on the first date, uh I didn't show this that like first date first or at least the first time she's over at your uh place, a girl should do your laundry.

Brian AtlasOh, first time. First time she's at your spot at your place. She should do your laundry for you. If we don't live together, I'm not. Romance. Romance. Doing your chores is romance. I've done that before,

Brian Atlashonestly. Yes. This is your love language. Yes. And it's an aphrodesiac, too. For you specifically? Uh, probably for other men, too. It's like, god damn, she's

Lucy (Data)looks good folding my laundry. Wait, most men don't want that. Huh? Most men I've dated are like, please don't do laundry for me. Like they don't want a woman doing his job. This is the new generation men. It's like that's like something you do

Brian Atlasas like a [ __ ] [ __ ] with their No, babe. Let me do it. Weak. No. Weak. Weak. Not primal. Weak with their independence and folding their own laundry. The [ __ ] What is the word?

SPEAKER_02Unbelievable. These [ __ ] losers. God forbid a man know how to do laundry. It's terrible. You shouldn't have to know. Yeah. She should also um if I want to

Brian Atlasreally challenge her, you know, just to test. I have like an old school [ __ ] washboard, too. What's it called? Not a wash. Is it the washboard? Yeah, washboard. It's a washboard. Yeah. She's like, "Where the [ __ ] you

Brian Atlasget this from?" You can't even go to like a Sears. What? Wait, not Sears. You can't You can't go to a Sears. Where do you buy a [ __ ] washboard? I'm like, I buy it on an antique shop. So, what are you bringing to the table, Brian?

Brian AtlasWhat do I bring to the table? is the table. Laundry. Yeah. I am the table. I am the table.

Brian AtlasThat's what y'all say. Yeah, that's what y'all say. Uh, all right. Here, I got to do some notes for our good our girl Emily Bradbury. Goodness. Bradberry or Bird? Bradberry. Bradbury.

Brian AtlasYeah. Emily Bradbury, dude. Okay. Uh, okay. So, I won't be able to You're in orange. Here's what we'll do. I'm going to do some of your notes, but we'll get you back on for another show. This one's

Brian Atlasand then we'll do uh we'll we'll finish the rest. Uh okay. You were in a We'll save your relationship history for another show. Yeah. What's that?

Brian AtlasYou can pick and choose. Yeah. Go ahead. But uh you said that you have a pretty well-rounded knowledge of masculine feminine. What men crave, women crave.

Emily (Coach DT250)So, what what do men crave? I would say that there's two main things. In my opinion, what I've seen with men is that number one, freedom, like the ability to choose. They don't like to be nagged. They don't like to be

Emily (Coach DT250)forced into things that they are don't want to do. So, freedom, but also they desire respect. And they um I think those would be the two, respect. And sorry, I'm losing my train of thought a

Brian Atlaslittle bit. Respect and uh freedom. Okay. You had a disagreement. You said you don't believe the draft argument is necessarily the right counterargument of

Emily (Coach DT250)the inequality between men and women. Uh I guess what's your disagreement or Yeah. So generally speaking when this is

Emily (Coach DT250)brought up sometimes on the not just on this podcast but in others to represent the inequality between men and women. Um a lot of the time I feel like each group is just pointing fingers about who who has it worse. Choose the biggest victim card which

Brian Atlasmen do. Go ahead. It's definitely men. Massive victims. Victims under the under the major argument.

Emily (Coach DT250)Um I think there are other examples that men can use as well considering the fact that I don't even I didn't research it before I came in but I'm not even sure when the last draft actually was. I don't think it was since like what World War II.

SPEAKER_12Wrong. Erroneous. Well, erroneous. Erroneous. Vietnam. Feel free to tell me. Yeah, feel free to. Uh, but I would then have to ask you

Brian Atlasthis question. Slavery was also a really long time ago. Was is that not an issue? Like that's not an issue. These don't feel like good faith arguments, Ryan. That's No, it's it's

Brian Atlasactually I know you want to laugh because I'm framing it in a funny way, but it's actually a really strong counterargument to the consequences. It's the same hold on this guy broke up with you. What about this

Brian Atlaskid with cancer? No, but here's what you got to if your argument is ex bad thing happened a long time ago, then the logic

Josie Marcelinoit would just follow that okay well slavery happens a long time ago. Does that not happen? Because we still feel the effects and consequences of slavery in our society today, but we don't from the draft.

Brian AtlasErroneous. Also erroneous. Boom. [ __ ] lawyer lo. You've already lost the argument. I just have to say no. You're wrong. Here's what it is. So, you're

Brian Atlaswrong in a couple different ways. So, there are men who would be alive today that aren't because they were drafted in Vietnam. There are men alive

Brian Atlastoday who were drafted and they have they're homeless. They have severe PTSD. They have all kinds of problems because of their experience in Vietnam.

Josie MarcelinoI'm saying men as a whole and the majority of men in the US do not face consequences still and feel the effects still of the draft from the Vietnam War.

Brian AtlasBut black people in America do still feel the effects of Wait, hold on. I mean, hundreds of years of slavery. And then if we want to go back, if we want to go back to like World War I, World War II, there were a

Brian Atlaslot of American men that were drafted in these conflicts and families were destroyed. Men are dead. They never Did we draft in World War I? And two. I thought we only drafted in Vietnam. There's always been a draft in existence.

Brian AtlasIf you don't know that, Hold on. You don't think men were drafted in World War I and World War II? To my knowledge, I thought that Vietnam was the only time we've had to enact the draft. No. that men willingly signed up for

Brian AtlasWorld War I, World War II in droves. Yeah, there were volunteers, but there was also a draft. Can we double check that? I'm happy to double check it. Um,

Brian Atlasokay. Did Did the USA draft in World War II? Imagine I'm wrong. Oh, I typed World War 23. I was like,

Brian Atlasyes, the United States did institute a draft during World War II. The Selective Training and Service Act of 1940 authorized a draft even before the US officially entered the war. This act

Brian Atlasrequired men between the ages of 21 and 36 to register. Uh tell 10 million men were inducted into the military through the draft during World War II. Let's do

Brian AtlasWorld War I. Uh yes, the United States did implement a draft during World War I. The Selective Service Act of 1917 authorized the federal government to raise a

Brian Atlasnational army through conscription. this enacted after the US declared war on Germany. I just don't think you have the uh historical knowledge here to really be,

Brian Atlasyou know, debating me on this. You don't even know if there was a draft for World War One, World War II. Pretty decent world history knowledge, but I did not know that one. Hold on. You didn't you don't have the requisite historical knowledge and understanding

Brian Atlasto have this conversation. Sorry. Okay. It was a good good attempt though. Okay. No draft. I disagree with you, but okay. Will you disagree that there was a draft? No, I disagree. I disagree that not

Josie Marcelinoknowing that makes completely disqualifies me from this conversation. Yeah, but so these men were forced to go and fight and go to war. And that's horrible. But today in 2025, the men of today that exist today in the

Brian AtlasUS are not still suffering the consequences from those men that were drafted. Well, hold on. If there are there might have been men who were born had it not

Josie Marcelinoalive on this country's soil today do not feel the the the effects of the Yeah. They were they never had the opportunity to be born. But the black people alive on the US

Josie Marcelinosoil today feel the effects of slavery. Do they? Yes. Oh, okay. Red lining and districtricting. Like that's that's what's sort of plagued the black the black community for forever. But that would be a separate issue from

Josie Marcelinoslavery. It came down from slavery. Slavery became Jim Crow, which became segregation, which became redlinining and the bombing. Also, the Titanic. Don't Don't get me started on the Titanic. All right.

Brian AtlasSorry, it's late, so my arguments are No, we're at we're we're at the end of the night. Damn, y'all spilling like crazy. What the [ __ ] Um, wait. So, hold on. Where were we? Who was I? Wait,

Brian Atlaswas the girl at arguing get up? She got up or No, you were talking to Emily. I was talking to you. Oh, the draft. So, wait, what's the argument really quick? So, I think there's two main things that I have here, which is number one, I

Emily (Coach DT250)think that a lot of the time when in podcasts like this and other ones are brought up, what about the draft, it's more of like again the pointing victim blame like of who can be the biggest victim, who can be the biggest martyr rather than actually talking about ways

Emily (Coach DT250)that we can create solutions for both groups. Um but secondly, I would say that um the I think there are other issues like while I I come from a family of veterans and so I understand the

Emily (Coach DT250)long-term impacts that it has. Um in fact my own father passed away after um after the war. So again I hold a lot of empathy and a lot of respect for people who are in that are veterans. I think

Emily (Coach DT250)that now actively currently in society um there are bigger issues that if you had to do the who's the biggest victim card, you didn't have to use the draft. But that's just my opinion. That was a little sassy.

Brian AtlasWell, I mean I mean the the draft conversation just comes up in conversations about uh privilege or patriarchy or any sort of feminist

Brian Atlascentric conversations. So I mean the whole narrative of feminism is women have it worse compared to men but then when you start which was convenient for

Brian Atlasa period but then when men was started playing that same game of okay well let's do an analysis of the ways in which men have it or can have it worse

Brian Atlasyou actually start to discover and uncover uh quite a bit of ways in which you can make compelling arguments that men have it worse. So, it's just playing

Brian Atlasthe feminist game of what women do or what feminists do. Women are disadvantaged, men are privileged, and then it's like, well,

Brian Atlasin these certain aspects, perhaps. Perhaps, but then if we're going to play the same game of doing comparison, it's just counternarrative. True feminism is just evening the playing field. No, it's not.

Emily (Coach DT250)In my experience and in my interpretation of feminism so far is that the initial first wave of feminism was about equal rights meaning that or equal opportunity.

Emily (Coach DT250)Feminism has never been about equality. Well, what the [ __ ] was suffrage? That might be your opinion on that. I'm saying that other feminist the right to work, the right to wear pants, the right to

Brian AtlasOkay, but hold on. Women were able to get rights without corresponding responsibility. We had to become taxers. Bigger. Okay, hold on. What duties do women have

Josie Marcelinoto society? What duties? The same as any other. Do they have the same duties as men? Potentially. I would argue yes. Okay. What about the draft? That's okay. The one exception. But I do think that women should be

Brian AtlasYou mean the one exception? Hold on. The one exception that results in men dying. The one I would I would say Oh, would you like to No, no, no, no. Go ahead. I would like to say that I think men and

Emily (Coach DT250)women uniquely have different things that they contribute to society. I believe in polarity, meaning that there are certain strengths that women have and magic that they bring and there are certain strengths that men have and

Emily (Coach DT250)magic that they bring. And so I I think the draft might be one example of that where men may be physically stronger. I also think, if correct me if I'm wrong, there were also a lot of female medics during that time.

Brian AtlasYou said men are not physically strong. Uh well, even if I grant that there were female medics, which I'm there were perhaps nurses, when I think of medics,

Brian AtlasI think of like on in the field, but uh they weren't drafted. No woman was forced to become a nurse. So to your point though, feminism has

Brian Atlasnot been about equality. Well, now it is. I'm in favor of drafting us. Well, hold on. Next topic. But this hold on. This idea that feminism is about equality. The most charitable definition I'll give feminism

Brian Atlasis women's advocacy, which is fine. It's that's cool. But I think it's this idea in terms of equality. Women were able to secure the right to vote without the

Brian Atlascorresponding responsibility that men had for them to be able to vote, which was you're subject to forced military conscription. Women were able to

Brian Atlascompletely avoid that duty. While men, it's been 100 years by the way, over 100 years since women have had the right to vote. There's been no push by feminists

Brian Atlasto equalize forced military conscription. So I ask you again, men have duties to society. What duties do

Brian Atlaswomen have to pay taxes and contribute to society? Yeah. Equal. Okay. Well, hold on. No, not really. Because the government can say, you know

Brian Atlaswhat, we're at war. We're going to send the men to the meat grinder and they can go die or they can get I think that if we're drafting, we should draft both. Okay. But or we can alternative.

Brian AtlasIt's great that you think that, but the it's not the case currently with the law. Hallelujah. You want it to be the case. We're already Well, hold on. But if we're having a conversation, if we're having a

Brian Atlasconversation about equality and women being able to vote and they can vote in uh representatives who can send men to war. Yeah. I mean, I think if we're talking

Mandy (Iran)about equality, like fully being equal to each other. Yeah. Why? If we're act we're not equal, we'll never will be, right? But that's what feminists are saying. Oh, we should be equal. Yeah. They're saying that like men should be in women's thing because we

Mandy (Iran)have the same strength. So, yeah. If you think me woman men can compete in women's whatever, then yeah, we we should go to war. Let's do it and let's [ __ ] up the country even more by sending us war.

Emily (Coach DT250)Okay, maybe I'm tired and this is a totally bonkers idea. So, I I would I'm open to hearing feedback about this, but why don't we just

Emily (Coach DT250)if a feminist movement or any movement just removed the forced inscription or the of the draft and then that that's like it's solved, isn't it?

Brian AtlasWell, so you're saying the solution for getting to equality would be to remove the draft. Yeah, I'll down for that.

Brian AtlasOkay, that's great. But you do realize that nations are not going to uh relinquish their rights to force its citizenry into a military conflict if they deem it necessary.

Emily (Coach DT250)One more time. Sorry, I'm on fire. They should. Well, okay. Let me ask you guys a question. Say that there's uh Oh, okay. I think understand a little

Emily (Coach DT250)bit better. Okay. One thing that I challenge though with that is um back with I I just watched this movie so again maybe not the best source but the Desmond Doss one. One of the things that

Emily (Coach DT250)I noticed is that with um back the cultural expectation back then is that men were very excited to go to war. They had something to fight for. They had a country to protect. They had women to

Emily (Coach DT250)protect um and and a cause to fight to def and to defend. They were I mean they were also propagandized but okay. Okay, that's fair. That's a fair point. And also I mean you said they were defending women.

Brian AtlasUh back then there was this idea of chivalry. Women were women were ladies. Men were gentlemen. Now we didn't have to draft for Iraq. People

Brian Atlaswillingly signed up for Iraq. And now we have at no other point in human history have there been more women who are sex workers and trumpets and all this stuff. Right. Nothing.

Emily (Coach DT250)So this like idealized like yeah men want to go and die for women? Why? Cuz you are women like are women virgins? They don't even want to have kids with you guys anymore. It's because a woman is a virgin. I

Brian Atlasthink she's hold if for men to be virtuous women also need to be virtuous. Sure. But I think is it only men have to be virtuous? Of course not. Okay. So women should be virtuous too.

Brian AtlasBut I think our definitions of virtuous are different now. Is female uh virtuousness negotiable? Female virtuous like men men should be willing to

Brian Atlassacrifice their lives. But so what sacrifice should women what's the sacrifice women do? What's their sacrifice? What are their duties? They have sex with men when they don't want to.

Emily (Coach DT250)Hold on. Wait. What? Well, I think there's a couple important things. Like um if they have children, then obviously when the men are at war, they're the ones taking care of the children. Okay. Um that would be one. I think that having children are women having children.

Emily (Coach DT250)Yeah, basically. But no one's even Hold on. Okay. If the duty the answer is having children, but women are not having children. Not necessarily. I think there are plenty of women, especially conservative women, especially southern women. I see

Emily (Coach DT250)it all the time as a southern girl that wanting to get married and are like, you maybe we're on different sides of Tik Tok, but every single one of my videos on Tik Tok are, "Oh my god, I can't wait to get married. Like I'm 22 and I want

Brian Atlasto get Okay. Yes, there are I'm not saying there's a complete absence of more conservativeleaning women who do want to have children, but we are what is it called? The birth uh there is a birth what's the word for it?

Brian AtlasBirth rate like the birth rate population collapse all this stuff. So if it is the and first off there's not a governmentmandated duty for women for women to have children but there is a

Brian Atlasgovernmentmandated potential risk that men are going to be sent to war to go and die. I'm not suggesting men that there should be didn't men like create the draft that draft

Maddie (Porn)uh what okay but other men argument um I mean that's a bit of a red herring but I mean I'm not against like I'm I'm not a strong feminist but it was also made

Brian Atlasby men. Ryan, what I'm I'm curious about men didn't set anything up as a monolith and it's a bit of a red herring logical fallacy. Uh, so do you think men deserve

Brian Atlascurrent disadvantages because some small group of powerful men in the past No. set up a supposed system? No, I'm just saying if you have problems with the draft, like who implemented the draft? Well, can I ask you a question? So,

Brian Atlasif let's say you live in a utopian society, but there's other societies that want to like take your land or just they're aggressive and belligerent.

Brian AtlasSo, even if your own society within your own walls is totally utopian and like everybody's equal and everything's fantastic, wouldn't you want to defend that society from potential outside invaders?

Brian AtlasYes. So even in a utopian society, there would still be a need for its citizenry to have to defend said utopian society. No, like I'm very pro- military.

Maddie (Porn)Everyone in my family's military. I married an active duty military member. But in a utopian, all I'm saying is going to join the military. If you have a problem for financial incentives, absolutely. It was a man who made the draft and it's

Mandy (Iran)a man who's in power now who could put women in the draft and they're not. I don't think they're you're against the draft. I I'm not against draft. I don't think he's even against draft. He just wants to have a reason to be in the draft. They're not saying they don't want to save you guys. They're saying,

Mandy (Iran)"Why would we save these hateful women that don't even like us?" It it's worth dying for when the woman loves you, takes care of you, have a child for you, and their whole life is you, then yeah, they're going to go die.

Brian AtlasMost men were not sitting at the table when these systems were built. Yeah. But it was still sitting it. Okay. a man and it's still a man now who's deciding years ago.

Emily (Coach DT250)Well, there's people actively in the seats of power right now. I don't know exactly if they're men or women. I would assume that they're dominant. If a woman a woman was in power, but if a woman was in power, the draft

Brian Atlaswouldn't disappear tomorrow. I didn't say I think it depends on her ide her belief. Well, can I ask you? Okay, let me give you an example structure at the time. Let me give you an example. So, let's say that uh again, we live in a utopian

Brian Atlassociety and everything's really great here, but there's this other society that wants our stuff and wants our land because our land is better or whatever. Or they think that our land is their land. And then they raise an army and

Brian Atlasthey invade. Let's say that they have more soldiers than we have soldiers. This is a hypo hypothetical scenario. We know that their army is more powerful

Brian Atlasbecause they have more soldiers. Sure. But if and our volunteer army is not big enough to defend against their larger

Emily (Coach DT250)army. But if we force some men to go and fight, then we can repel the invading force. Don't force them, offer them more money. There's two things that I would say

Brian Atlashere. also America's military is the strongest military in the country already. Let me respond to her thing. It Yeah, I know that. But it's so like hold on. But it's a hypothetical in a

Brian Atlasrandom ass state. So it's cooked into the scenario that the men don't want to volunteer. Like they don't want to die. Doesn't matter. You could offer me a million dollars. You can offer me $10

Josie Marcelinomillion. I'm not going to [ __ ] Ukraine. Hey, I'm not going to. I don't care how much money you offer. My life is uh priceless. Yeah, but there's a bunch of dudes who absolutely would. Sure, that's how the military gets

Brian Atlaspeople as it is. Okay, but I don't think the military uh I it's not clear to me if the military in all of these circumstances would be able to like offer each soldier a million dollars and then the existing

Brian Atlassoldiers are going to be like, "Oh, you're paying them a million dollars? Well, I'm not going to fight unless you pay me a million dollar." The US military could, but that's what I'm saying. is that the US military pays nothing. Yeah, they don't pay. They pay literally nothing. The United States military, the most

Josie Marcelinopowerful military in the world, pays dog [ __ ] No, they pay literally nothing. That's the problem. But yeah, that's the way that people the reason people join the military today is for

Maddie (Porn)the money. No, typically people who want out of their small towns typically it's one of the reasons I'll I'll grant that. There's a lot of things here which

Emily (Coach DT250)is number one my previous boyfriend was actually um he was in the military and so I know a good little bit about the benefits and such like that but before I even met him the reason that he joined the mil military and I respect him and a lot of men that also have these similar

Emily (Coach DT250)beliefs is that they believe in protecting the rights of our country not he was in the military way before he had me as a girlfriend and before he was considering me as a wife and so his purpose was he wanted to protect again

Emily (Coach DT250)the rights of this country the freedom of speech the right to bear arms and the fact that we are a big superpower as a country just period. And so that that's one thing is that I believe that regardless of what you believe about

Emily (Coach DT250)women, I think there's a lot of respect that I have for men who just want to protect the country so that we can continue to have the rights that we have. Number one. Number two, if in this scenario like you know, let's say the

Emily (Coach DT250)men don't want to volunteer. I'm not against the idea of okay, yes, men and women can be drafted into it. They may play different roles. That's what for people who are way higher up and way smarter than me can think about which is

Emily (Coach DT250)okay maybe the women if they're not physically as strong for being on the front lines whatever it is I think there's some women that could probably meet those qualifications but if not then they can be medics they can be there's there's you know how many people

Brian Atlasin the military aren't even on the active war and they're in the background doing tech and doing drones and monitoring I would still so I would still argue even in scenarios where we did open up

Brian Atlasthe draft to women it would still be some degree of injustice or inequality because invariably there would you would put the women in safe positions where they're out of harm's way. So even if

Brian Atlastechnically we do equalize the draft, it's ultimately still going to be some form of male disposability where the men are always going to be sent to frontline

Brian Atlascombat positions and the women are in like these like you said like uh back what's it called? Sorry, I'm [ __ ] tired. uh back of back of the line positions. I don't think that's I don't know how

Emily (Coach DT250)necessarily true that is. Again, I don't have the stats for it, but like again, the medics are gonna be in front line combat. I mean, depending if we're having really bad numbers for the military, we may not have no choice but to put women on the

Brian Atlasfront lines or just give up on the I think we should just take all the men out of the military and just put men or put women all in the military and just let them fight for a couple years which equals your country going to

Brian Atlassomeone else. Let's go, girls. Let's do it. Okay. Uh moving on. Couple things then we're we got to get this wrapped. You wrote that body count does not matter. Should shouldn't be led with. History, history can be an indication of values and character. Uh but the idea

Brian Atlasthat men and women are defined by it is not looking at the deeper true perspective of it. Uh going around the table, uh a woman's passion not matter. Does anybody who agrees with that? Maddie, do you agree with that? Passion not the amount of people she slept with. Emily, you agree with that? Lucy, you

Brian Atlasagree with that? For the most part, yes. Agree. Uh Eleanor, you agree. Uh going around the table, what is uh if it body count? Does it matter? What's your body count? Starting with home girl. I do it

Brian Atlasprofessionally. So I these ring pops were a terrible idea. Well, we've been here for so long. I need sugar. Like no, it's just you your teeth. It looks so green. Um

Maddie (Porn)the teeth doesn't even look. It's my job. It's okay. Body count. I don't know. Range ballpark. 80 90 100 200. Did you know your civilian count?

Brian AtlasYeah, civilian. Um I believe it was 12. Okay. And then how many for work? You said 80. Yeah. Okay. Uh what about you? Can you scoot your mic to the edge of the table, please? And mine is eight.

Emily (Coach DT250)Eight. Okay. Six men, four women. Okay. Emily. Nice. Uh so I mentioned this on my post, but out of Okay. What about you? Oh, three men, one woman.

Maddie (Porn)Uh 20. Okay. I'll never tell. Range ballpark. Never. Never. Is it over by? What about you? Am I over? No, you have to answer. Sorry.

Josie MarcelinoIs it over mine? Just Just throw that out there. Six. Six. Okay. All right. Wait. Hold on. Wait. And now you multiply it by three and that's the literally go to

Brian Atlasmy trans time three. Bro, I don't reveal my body count. Come on. Yeah. Holly, what is it? Come on. It's never going to happen. After tonight, I don't know. [ __ ] What's up, Holly? What's up? She took that ring. You see that [ __ ]

Brian AtlasDamn. She was I meant she's never going to tell you. She's ready for you. What's up? All right. Awkward. Oh, we should get out of your way then. Okay. Don't get jealous over there. All right. I can watch. All right. I'm going to blast through. I'm not going to do all these questions.

Brian AtlasWe're going to do like three or four and then uh Okay, Maddie. A man dating a transgender woman is straight. Why do you think that? I just do. Next question.

Maddie (Porn)Dude, it's like 3:00 in the morning. No, it is not 3. Um, I'm from Georgia, so it's like it's like 700 a.m. for me. Oh [ __ ] I don't think the time difference is that much, but

Brian Atlasit's 3 hours. I feel you. Um, you can't ask me about transgender topics right now. I can't I can't I should Yeah, this should have been a earlier topic. Well, I have to have you back on the show for that. Lucy, man, you said Oh my god, Lucy. Yes. Lucy Goosey, you've Mhm. You're in LA, right?

Brian AtlasYes. Okay, we're going to have to have you back for some of these. Okay. Second date. I would love to. Yeah, second date. Um, oh my god. I'm just going to do the good ones then. I'm going to skip the trans stuff because I don't know. Whatever.

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